Hey i just received a yonex muscle power 99 from tum 98. and restringing it at 21lbs with a 6 support stringing machine. Near the end of the cross at the neck the racket finally snaps...

I just emailed him and im not sure if he will give me a refund. So if anyone has his home phone, his adress or something so i can contact him and demand a refund for this racket!

Thanks

Got any pictures?

Ya i got some. I found some foam in teh racket...

maybe damaged during shipping. Even a new fake dun break like that on 21 lbs

Did you visually inspect the racket prior to stringing it?
I always look for cracks or defects before any string job, or I may have to pay for that racket.:mad:

Did the racket break at the clamp/support location? Sometimes the clamp/support did not secure that area of the racket and can cause too much stress on the frame.

Anyways, I doubt it if the seller will replace with a new one. He can blame the stringer, in this case, YOU.

Imagine if you given the racket to someone else to string and they broke the racket, would the stringer pay for the new racket?

Is your racket SP or TH coded racket? Probably no warranty too.
Next time, should get a CD or US coded racket, comes with warranty to protect you from this kind of incident.

Ya i got some. I found some foam in teh racket...
you found foam in the racquet?

hmm... interesting breakage... frame buckled... could be due to a number of reasons.

Well thanks for you concern guys... Ya i found liek a foam substance in the racket. Yellowish foam..

that sucks .

That is a bad snap!

I am not doubting your stringing nor saying that the racquet has a defect but was it you that posted something about stringing a muscle power 99 in the "stringing techniques" sub forum? When I read your initial post, it seemed like you were not completely confident in your stringing.

OUCH! I had a racket break like that once. I absent mindedly forgot to lock the machine properly and kaBING. Breaking a racket in two places is tough to do!

i got a lot of rackets from tum98 before and they're all good. I don't think he will replace it for you but you can try.

looks like a defective racquet to me. has tum98 reply yet? sorry for your lost.

i got a lot of rackets from tum98 before and they're all good.

Me too. I have never had any problem with Wisanu (Tum98). There maybe other factors involved such as defective racket and/or stringer's fault.

I know Wisanu would not knowingly sell a defective racket.

anyone else has problem like this, i really want a mp99 but that snap looks discouraging even if i can get unlimited number of replacements

I have dealt with tum98 4 times, all racquets are great. The snap was probably the result of poor stringing

I just strung my MP99 last night at 27lbs. 21lbs should never have killed yours. Maybe you can see if you can get something from the shipping company. Or maybe even with paypal if you used them for paying.

What do you mean trying to get money from paypal or the shipping company?

I strung many racquets before and i never had any problems.

When the raquet broke the carbon i saw was very thin. I haev a muscle power 28 it broke and when i look at the crack the carbon was thick...

And no he hasnt replied.

IF you live in CAL and in losangeles and met up with him could you please help me out.

I am not doubting your stringing nor saying that the racquet has a defect but was it you that posted something about stringing a muscle power 99 in the "stringing techniques" sub forum? When I read your initial post, it seemed like you were not completely confident in your stringing.

It's in this thread. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41196

He does not sound like an experienced stringer. An MP 99 should not break at all @ 21lbs. Either there's a defect or you need to get more experience stringing cheaper rackets first.


In that thread:


And I'm not sure where to put the supports since i dont wana ruin this racuqet. I have strung many racquet and they all turned out fine. a month later that racket broke...

PLease help

Are you saying all your rackets that you strung broke a month later? :confused:

How's about a picture of the string machine setup with a racket? Maybe we can help you solve this mystery.:D :D :D

Did you do a one or two string job?

I can imagine the side support/clamps did not hold the frame and it just collapsed under the tension.

I just strung my MP99 last night at 27lbs. 21lbs should never have killed yours. Maybe you can see if you can get something from the shipping company. Or maybe even with paypal if you used them for paying.

I've strung an MP99 as high as 30x33lbs., multiple rackets with absolutely no problems.

IF you live in CAL and in losangeles and met up with him could you please help me out.

Give him a few days to reply. It's the weekend.

No offense MadCat, but based on the below referenced link, you are new to stringing.

You stated you know how to string rackets, have strung many rackets and you know the pattern, if that's the case, you should not and would not be asking questions about how to get an overall 21lbs. tension; also where to put the supports.

LazyBuddy's recommendation (Post # 3 in the referenced link), was prudent.

Based on this information, I believe the racket broke due to your stringing. If you can give us more information, maybe we can better help you determine what went wrong. Maybe the racket is defective. We won't know unless we have more information.

Regardless, good luck. :)

It's in this thread. http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=41196

He does not sound like an experienced stringer. An MP 99 should not break at all @ 21lbs. Either there's a defect or you need to get more experience stringing cheaper rackets first.

No, the racket that broke after 1 month of stringing was due to my friend hitting the head non stop.

Well i'v strung Expensive rackets and nothing goes wrong. I have an Egnas stringing machine 6 support. I place my bottom supports on 12 main and top the same.

Please post pictures for us of how you mount your racket and your machine.

No, the racket that broke after 1 month of stringing was due to my friend hitting the head non stop.

Well i'v strung Expensive rackets and nothing goes wrong. I have an Egnas stringing machine 6 support. I place my bottom supports on 12 main and top the same.

Well here is the pic... THis racket is already strung and doesnt have the correct shape to fit into the proper place.

No, the racket that broke after 1 month of stringing was due to my friend hitting the head non stop.

Why would your friend hit the head of the racket non-stop? :confused:

Oh when he plays his smashes always hit the head of the racket. He is a volleyball player and has crazy smashes and hits. So after all of those non stop hits crack the head broke.

Oh when he plays his smashes always hit the head of the racket. He is a volleyball player and has crazy smashes and hits. So after all of those non stop hits crack the head broke.

I dont mean to digress from the original post, about the racquet being poor quality... but the above quoted just means the player needs to learn some control... greater focus on timing & precision > wild swing as hard as i can 100% of the time. but that's just my opinion.

also... who strung the racquet mounted on that machine in the pic? :o
That is beyond warped...

Whatever lead to that set of circumstances... I'd again recommend
a.) more self control while playing
b.) better storage of the racquet
c.) or more practice stringing...

Yup, the racket in the picture is deformed.

Ya, it is deformed i got it done at sports experts. The racket is suppost to look fatter. Well they messed it up and made it long and thin.

Ya, it is deformed i got it done at sports experts. The racket is suppost to look fatter. Well they messed it up and made it long and thin.

sports experts is one of the worse place for stringing ur racket imo, strung twice with them and string broke after a dozen of games. i also got an mp99 from tum98, the racket is great even after hitting the floor sooo many times, i just got a 3 big paint chips :D

i'm still with the racket i bought from tum98 bout a yr and half ago.
its a 4U TH with numerous 24-26lb string jobs and chips
But its still alive and kicking. Sometimes it really comes down to "Luck" factor

While we're still on the topic...does anyone know what happened to tum98's ebay store? It seems to have disappeared from eBay completely

While we're still on the topic...does anyone know what happened to tum98's ebay store? It seems to have disappeared from eBay completely

It's still there:

http://stores.ebay.com/BadmintonStore_W0QQssPageNameZstrkQ3amefsQ3amesstQ QtZkm

Thank you good sir!

Long and Thin usually means the racket was strung at 18/25 lbs..:eek: :eek: :eek:

Ya, it is deformed i got it done at sports experts. The racket is suppost to look fatter. Well they messed it up and made it long and thin.

Long and Thin usually means the racket was strung at 18/25 lbs..:eek: :eek: :eek:

That sounds like a huge ouch!

In that case, it's one compressed racket :D for poking than hitting.

Long and Thin usually means the racket was strung at 18/25 lbs..:eek: :eek: :eek:

Poking like .......fencing?

I dont know what happenned to your racket, but it broke like my friend's FAKE NS8000. He strung it at 22lbs in a shop like Sports Experts but its called Intersports.. I will not buy any racket on internet ahah too dangerous :D
will just get one for 300$ no choice =D

Well i'v strung Expensive rackets and nothing goes wrong. I have an Egnas stringing machine 6 support. I place my bottom supports on 12 main and top the same.

No offense.

However, from the reference link, I can hardly believe any experienced stringers (regarding badminton rackets) can even ask a question about the main vs. cross tension ratio. The question of "where to put the supports" is even more of a give away. :confused:

Maybe you did strung some rackets before, but are they badminton rackets? If you were referring to tennis or racketball rackets, then I have to say, you can't 100% just "transfer" your experience once you get your hand on a badminton racket.

I am not here to determine whose fault it must be. However, from all the information I see, I think stringer might have a significant "contribution" to the racket breakage. You should know yourself the best. Therefore, unless you can honestly backup your statement of "experienced badminton stringer", otherwise, please don't blame others blindly. :cool: