This totally SUX!
An all China Semi and finals for MS.... :rolleyes:
Me would like Hongyan Pi to kickass tomorrow :D

MS :

Lin Dan vs Bao Chunlai .. Bet an easy win for Lin Dan ! Jia You !
Chen yu vs Chen Jin .. Chen Yu is an intelligent player with a good net play he has already beat him .. i'm going for him =p

WS :

Xie Xingfang vs Zhu Lin .. Zhu Lin must be tired after her qf, I bet an easy win again as in the korea open final
Pi Hongyan vs Zhang Ning Pi Hongyan is currently playing very well ! I really think (and hooope) she can beat The great Zhang Ning tomorow =)

MD :

Fu/Cai vs Wijaya/Gunawan .. don't know really why lol
Koo/Tan vs Eriksen/Lundgaard .. not really about this one !

WD :

Gao/Huang vs Wei/Zhang .. The great pair to win !
Wong/Chin vs Zhang/Yang ... no need to add something !

MxD :

Yu/He vs Zheng/Gao The new excellent pair must know how to beat their youngers compatriots
Clark/Kellog vs Xie/Zhang .. the english pair had a scare today ! but they're playing very well !! not sure also abt this one

By the way ... in the 20 places for the semi finals .. 14 are for chinese O_O

This totally SUX!
An all China Semi and finals for MS.... :rolleyes:
Me would like Hongyan Pi to kickass tomorrow :D

You are from Montreal... that explains why such an useless post here.:rolleyes:

Usually, when they start a thread using the title you used, means that there is at least some sort of useful message as in what the matches are.

hrmmm all chinese ms semi...how boringgg
LYB must be happy lol
The only event I'll be interested in is the mens doubles! Got China,Denmark,Malaysia and Indonesia/USA competing for a place in the final...how exciting
KKK/TBH i believe in you!!!

arggghhhhh, really really frustrated man seeing CY chasing up LCW at 20-16 !!! KKK & TBH must beat Denmark MD today, revenge for their teammates !!! And also Good Job for WD WPT & CYH !!! We want a final for both MD & WD against China and take revenge !!!

China did better than expected. This is especially unexpected. Since just 2 weeks ago, it was Chinese New Year and Spring Festival. People usually eat out of control, and indulge for unlimited fun and pleasure. Those players are not exceptional at all. So they must had not been prepared.

It is weird they even did better than usual. :confused: :confused: :confused:

:confused:

Wats there to see if all China against China !! So WD must make it to the Final !!

Malaysian Players cannot take pressure at crucial moments, so KKK & TBH must make it !!! Play against China CY & HHF, 2 sets END them up

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL

Where are you alfa2 ?
You said if LEE CW is not injured, he can beat CY.
But LEE CW do not think so.
[I will be competing in the All-England (starting on Tuesday at Birmingham) and fortunately, I am injury free. ]--------------
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Where are you alfa2 ?
You said if LEE CW is not injured, he can beat CY.
But LEE CW do not think so.
[I will be competing in the All-England (starting on Tuesday at Birmingham) and fortunately, I am injury free. ]--------------
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Injured or not injured is not the issue at all. CY also can say he is injured even if the facts HE IS NOT. Main conclusion, China MS all Semi-Final, Happy? Wat else dissatisfied. Wat else to quote wat LCW have said. Does we need to bring out all his trophy which he achieved in 2003 - 2006? History is wat tat counts after all.

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL

Let the better guy win, and let the best win the tournament. Could you just enjoy badminton itself instead of turning it into a zero-sum international war. We already miss Chen Hong. I would like to see the better guy to win no matter who he is and where he's from. :)

Let the better guy win, and let the best win the tournament. Could you just enjoy badminton itself instead of turning it into a zero-sum international war. We already miss Chen Hong. I would like to see the better guy to win no matter who he is and where he's from. :)

Oh yeah, is enjoying, but it will be more interesting if is from different countries, i believe mostly will think the same. I didnt point out tat i dislike seeing China Players playing. And i apologize if wat i have said in watever ways offending u.

I just came back from the NIA. After watching all the quarter final matches (as well as the 2nd round matches yesterday), I cn say that Wijaya and Gunawan have been playing so well. They might be able to upset the first seeded. On the other hand, the Malaysian pair should be able to stop Eriksen and Lundgard tomorrow (if they played like today against the Korean). It is going to be really interesting.

> Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL

They can't do this in Open Tournaments because these are OPEN tournaments.

> Malaysian Players cannot take pressure at crucial moments

Maybe KKK/TBH are exceptions. So far, they have at least reached semi-finals in all 5 international events (AE included) they have participated in.

The back 2 back Swiss open provides a perfect battlefield for revenge.

Sony lost to Lin Dan, Lee CW lost to Chen Yu, Kenneth J lost to Chen Jin in the quarter finals here in England, next week, they could meet again in Swiss Open quarter finals:

Sony - Lin Dan, Lee CW - Chen Yu, Kenneth J - Chen Jin

if they can make it to there... ;)

The back 2 back Swiss open provides a perfect battlefield for revenge.

Sony lost to Lin Dan, Lee CW lost to Chen Yu, Kenneth J lost to Chen Jin in the quarter finals here in England, next week, they could meet again in Swiss Open quarter finals:

Sony - Lin Dan, Lee CW - Chen Yu, Kenneth J - Chen Jin

if they can make it to there... ;)

If the result is the same as today... then it will only prove that Lin Dan is really super Dan since he can continue playing at good form tournament after tournament... and also proves that Chen Yu is indeed better than LCW in the new scoring system as well. Consider the fact that the Swiss open is LD and CY 3rd tournament in less than a month, all excuses from their opponents have no meaning any more.:cool:

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL

MS players from Malaysia:
Roslin HASHIM M.
LEE Tsuen Seng
Muhd Hafiz B HASHIM
TAN Chun Seang
LEE Chong Wei
YEOH Kay Bin
Sairul Amar AYOB
PEI Wee Chung
Yogendran KHRISHNAN
WONG Choong Hann
KUAN Beng Hong

MD pairs from Malaysia:
TAN Bin Shen/ONG Soon Hock
Mohd Fairuzizuan MOHD TAZARI/LIN Woon Fui
KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
CHOONG Tan Fook/LEE Wan Wah
GAN Teik Chai/Mohd Zakry ABDUL LATIF
KHOO Chung Chiat/Mohd Razif ABDUL LATIF
CHAN Peng Soon /CHANG Hun Ping
Sometimes also HONG Chieng Hun/CHEW Choon Eng and
HOON Thien How/CHAN Chong Ming

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL
haha, i think you're just upset that LCW lost. china only sent 4 players in MS, while malaysia sent 7. Denmark sent 4 and Indonesia sent 2, but should have sent 3.

this proves that in this tournament, china absolutely dominated in MS.

HAHAHAHA as I predicted :D
All China MS Semi finals!!!!

Jia You Cao Ji Zhong Guo!

MS players from Malaysia:
Roslin HASHIM M.
LEE Tsuen Seng
Muhd Hafiz B HASHIM
TAN Chun Seang
LEE Chong Wei
YEOH Kay Bin
Sairul Amar AYOB
PEI Wee Chung
Yogendran KHRISHNAN
WONG Choong Hann
KUAN Beng Hong

MD pairs from Malaysia:
TAN Bin Shen/ONG Soon Hock
Mohd Fairuzizuan MOHD TAZARI/LIN Woon Fui
KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
CHOONG Tan Fook/LEE Wan Wah
GAN Teik Chai/Mohd Zakry ABDUL LATIF
KHOO Chung Chiat/Mohd Razif ABDUL LATIF
CHAN Peng Soon /CHANG Hun Ping
Sometimes also HONG Chieng Hun/CHEW Choon Eng

How many MS players did China send out for this AE... like 4:cool: compare to Malaysia as listed above.

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL

May be they should just limit China in only sending their "B" team to every tournament to give other countries a chance... except for Women's singles and doubles, China has to send out team "C" or below.:p

May be they should just limit China in only sending their "B" team to every tournament to give other countries a chance... except for Women's singles and doubles, China has to send out team "C" or below.:p
hahahah :D

Indeed indeed

Yes, China must only send 1 individual or pair per event and no player better than a regional champion (China's D or lower).

It will truly be ha ha for China when they sweep all 5 events with 5 D players.

May be they should just limit China in only sending their "B" team to every tournament to give other countries a chance... except for Women's singles and doubles, China has to send out team "C" or below.:p

still Indonesia is the best in terms of badminton skill. China players r more on speed while indon players r more on wrist skill.

I predict there will be a rematch of the MO md final tommorow. Cum on beat yr opponent, KKK/TBH and Tony/Candra!

still Indonesia is the best in terms of badminton skill. China players r more on speed while indon players r more on wrist skill.
i dont know who how you can justify that answer. i dont remember the last time an indonesian team won a tournament. having badminton skills means nothing, knowing how to use that skill is much more important.

technically, LD has the most badminton skills in the world since he's #1 and has been for the mast 2.5 years

We all know how many players from a country, no need to be reminded. However, it is a topic which is worth considering. Probably :

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

and so on

Please be reminded this is a Discussion Forum, no one is attacking no one, please DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND.

We all know how many players from a country, no need to be reminded. However, it is a topic which is worth considering. Probably :

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

and so on

Please be reminded this is a Discussion Forum, no one is attacking no one, please DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND.

What im suggesting will not only giving chance for backslided but potential players (eg :Taufik, Sony, WCH), but also giving chances to small countries which is growing in Badminton Tournament.

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MS players from Malaysia:
Roslin HASHIM M.
LEE Tsuen Seng
Muhd Hafiz B HASHIM
TAN Chun Seang
LEE Chong Wei
YEOH Kay Bin
Sairul Amar AYOB
PEI Wee Chung
Yogendran KHRISHNAN
WONG Choong Hann
KUAN Beng Hong

MD pairs from Malaysia:
TAN Bin Shen/ONG Soon Hock
Mohd Fairuzizuan MOHD TAZARI/LIN Woon Fui
KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
CHOONG Tan Fook/LEE Wan Wah
GAN Teik Chai/Mohd Zakry ABDUL LATIF
KHOO Chung Chiat/Mohd Razif ABDUL LATIF
CHAN Peng Soon /CHANG Hun Ping
Sometimes also HONG Chieng Hun/CHEW Choon Eng and
HOON Thien How/CHAN Chong Ming


Therefore, no need to find all the facts, articles, evidence etc. to bring down a person's view. Because, this is an open discussion. Everyone knows China is Strong, no need to be reminded, alrite.

no ones attacking anybody...but back to your point.

that idea in my opinion is ridiculus, it doesnt bring out the best in people. pretend malaysia has 4 out of the top 5 in mens singles, some of those players wouldnt be able to play regularly in tournaments, they would purposely have to try and place 3rd or 4th in a tournament just to play. :rolleyes:

i think many people would have objections to this idea...

Hi, guys!

Just joined the forum for the first time. Any one of you know which TV station is telecasting this prestigious All-England 2007 tournament live?

no ones attacking anybody...but back to your point.

that idea in my opinion is ridiculus, it doesnt bring out the best in people. pretend malaysia has 4 out of the top 5 in mens singles, some of those players wouldnt be able to play regularly in tournaments, they would purposely have to try and place 3rd or 4th in a tournament just to play. :rolleyes:

i think many people would have objections to this idea...


Haha, come again, i dont quite understand your meaning

Lol..... people, why not we predict the winner then whining abt the loss and other people's victory? We must looked at the bright side!

no ones attacking anybody...but back to your point.

that idea in my opinion is ridiculus, it doesnt bring out the best in people. pretend malaysia has 4 out of the top 5 in mens singles, some of those players wouldnt be able to play regularly in tournaments, they would purposely have to try and place 3rd or 4th in a tournament just to play. :rolleyes:

i think many people would have objections to this idea...

Okay, i dont really understand wat is your meaning. But, how many percent do u think our current situation bring out the best players?? For players who has gone through Q.Round, do u think it is 100% fit to go through so many rounds ahead.

Haha, come again, i dont quite understand your meaning
(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

thats what you wrote. now, lets pretend that the world rankings looked like this for mens singles:
1. Lee chong wei
2. Kuan Beng Hong
3. Yeo Kay Bin
4. Hashim
5. Wong Choong Han
6. Bao Chuan Lai
7. Peter Gade
8. Chen Jin
9. Chen Yu
10. Lin Dan

now, malaysia could only send 2 mens singles in the top 5, whcih leaves 3 unable to play in that tournament. china could only send 1 player out of 4, and denmark could only send 1 player out of 2.

that leaves a lot of good players not being able to play. this is counter productive. if this is the case, many top players would no longer want to play the game because cant join the tournaments that they want too.

also, tournaments would become really un-competitive

Lol..... people, why not we predict the winner then whining abt the loss and other people's victory? We must looked at the bright side!

hahaha, ya, but i dunno y r some people finding evidence to debate with me. hahaha

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

thats what you wrote. now, lets pretend that the world rankings looked like this for mens singles:
1. Lee chong wei
2. Kuan Beng Hong
3. Yeo Kay Bin
4. Hashim
5. Wong Choong Han
6. Bao Chuan Lai
7. Peter Gade
8. Chen Jin
9. Chen Yu
10. Lin Dan

now, malaysia could only send 2 mens singles in the top 5, whcih leaves 3 unable to play in that tournament. china could only send 1 player out of 4, and denmark could only send 1 player out of 2.

that leaves a lot of good players not being able to play. this is counter productive. if this is the case, many top players would no longer want to play the game because cant join the tournaments that they want too.

also, tournaments would become really un-competitive



Okay, give me a minute. I go to the washroom first. hahaha

Okay, give me a minute. I go to the washroom first. hahaha
u should get a wireless laptop:D

Okay, give me a minute. I go to the washroom first. hahaha

Lol...... so u decided to keep the debate goin after that? :D:D:D

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

thats what you wrote. now, lets pretend that the world rankings looked like this for mens singles:
1. Lee chong wei
2. Kuan Beng Hong
3. Yeo Kay Bin
4. Hashim
5. Wong Choong Han
6. Bao Chuan Lai
7. Peter Gade
8. Chen Jin
9. Chen Yu
10. Lin Dan

now, malaysia could only send 2 mens singles in the top 5, whcih leaves 3 unable to play in that tournament. china could only send 1 player out of 4, and denmark could only send 1 player out of 2.

that leaves a lot of good players not being able to play. this is counter productive. if this is the case, many top players would no longer want to play the game because cant join the tournaments that they want too.

also, tournaments would become really un-competitive

Okay, u do have a point. Okay, if is like tat, we look at own country ranking. The number of players in higher ranking eg

(1) 1-5 SEND 1 or 2 player(s)
(2) 6-15 SEND 1 or 2 player(s)

and so on.

This way, lower ranking players (esp those backslided) get the higher chances to spar with higher ranking players.

If not, until when Sony, WCH will be able to climb back their ranking or gain quality points. We all know they are marvelous players.

I'm predicting a clean sweep by the Chinese team in every facet :cool:
China the dragon!

hahahahahahhahahha

Im back, but i need to make my breakfast now. Okay, give me a minute. U all think the answer first.

Congrats to all winners in the quarters and for those who lost there is nth to be shameful abt, they had all fight till the very end and that counts in too! For ppl r not liking the china dominance, well u could watch MD only (i knew i would) hehehe :D:D:D

I'm predicting a clean sweep by the Chinese team in every facet :cool:
China the dragon!

Erm.... maybe the not MD? :p

Okay, u do have a point. Okay, if is like tat, we look at own country ranking. The number of players in higher ranking eg

(1) 1-5 SEND 1 or 2 player(s)
(2) 6-15 SEND 1 or 2 player(s)

and so on.

This way, lower ranking players (esp those backslided) get the higher chances to spar with higher ranking players.

If not, until when Sony, WCH will be able to climb back their ranking or gain quality points. We all know they are marvelous players.
haha, you're still arguing this point? okkk....

1) again with your first point, many players inside their own countries wouldnt want to play if they dont get to join tournaments. it would also make it extremely tough for younger players to play against some of the best in the world since they wouldnt be able to go to a international tournament.

2) lower ranking players get to spar with higher rankings players? okay, lets take Lin Dan against #99 ranked mens singles player in the world. would it be a competition? it would be a waste of money for some one, and that person definitely wouldnt be Lin Dan. if this were the case, the people ranked below 30 would be out 1st round in every single tournament.

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL

it is not about the number of players you can send but it is rather about the quality of the players. I don't understand why everyone is bashing China for all Chinese semi-final but not their country man who couldn't make it to the semi. :(

You are from Montreal... that explains why such an useless post here.:rolleyes:

Usually, when they start a thread using the title you used, means that there is at least some sort of useful message as in what the matches are.

LOL! Don't make fun a major city in our 51st state! ;) :p :D

Hey, im back with my sanwdwich & fresh milk.
OMG, someone is bashing on me again . . . OMG :rolleyes:

I just came back from the NIA. After watching all the quarter final matches (as well as the 2nd round matches yesterday), I cn say that Wijaya and Gunawan have been playing so well. They might be able to upset the first seeded. On the other hand, the Malaysian pair should be able to stop Eriksen and Lundgard tomorrow (if they played like today against the Korean). It is going to be really interesting.
I agree with you, I think Tony/Candra have a very good chance going tothe final, it will probably be against Koo/Tan. So, this might be Malaysia Open MD final all over again...:)

haha, you're still arguing this point? okkk....

1) again with your first point, many players inside their own countries wouldnt want to play if they dont get to join tournaments. it would also make it extremely tough for younger players to play against some of the best in the world since they wouldnt be able to go to a international tournament.

2) lower ranking players get to spar with higher rankings players? okay, lets take Lin Dan against #99 ranked mens singles player in the world. would it be a competition? it would be a waste of money for some one, and that person definitely wouldnt be Lin Dan. if this were the case, the people ranked below 30 would be out 1st round in every single tournament.

Answers to your Q :

(1) Oh, this will depends on their perseverence & commitment alrite. Each country have their respective Competition. They will need to get themself qualify in their own country. If a particular player keep on winning. No choice, is his luck to represent his country for Tournament.

(2) NOT ALL players in lower ranking is lousy, right. Someone out there might just pull the best players down. At least they dont need to play Q.Round, it saves a lot or energy.

Anyway, we just end this debate here alrite jgao net :)

it is not about the number of players you can send but it is rather about the quality of the players. I don't understand why everyone is bashing China for all Chinese semi-final but not their country man who couldn't make it to the semi. :(

Agree. That's why we call those events OPEN tournaments, i.e., to give everybody an equal chance to fight and may the quality players, regardless of countries they are from, prevail and earn valuable points to qualify for Olympics or WC which has already been posing such a country limit policy. The new SS scheme is a compromise between "fully-open" tournaments and OG/WC where they control the number of players but don't care which countries they are from. I don't see the need to go to another extreme where all OPEN tournaments and SS tournaments follow OG/WC's qualifying policy.

Agree. That's why we call those events OPEN tournaments, i.e., to give everybody an equal chance to fight and may the quality players, regardless of countries they are from, prevail and earn valuable points to qualify for Olympics or WC which has already been posing such a country limit policy. The new SS scheme is a compromise between "fully-open" tournaments and OG/WC where they control the number of players but don't care which countries they are from. I don't see the need to go to another extreme where all OPEN tournaments and SS tournaments follow OG/WC's qualifying policy.
couldnt have said it better my self

Should limit the number of players send out from a certain Country in a tournament, then will not end up all from the same country in SEMI FINAL
Just because CHN is dominating and all the power to them, to penalize them and limit the number of players from CHN would not be fair. I remember WC05, when the defending champion XXZ cannot participate because the ranked 4th in CHN, that is disappointing. I share your concern that we are going to see all CHN SF in MS and very soon WS too, and that is not healthy for the sport to grow. Just check out the column from Badminton Planet which I extracted below and Li ling Wei said the same thing:

China should help other countries, says Li

By Nick Mulvenney
BEIJING, March 9 (Reuters) - Former badminton great Li Lingwei believes China has a responsibility to help other nations develop in the sport so that it can flourish internationally.
Although countries like Indonesia, Malaysia and Denmark still produce top players, China is becoming increasing dominant and won all but one of the titles at last year's world championships.
Li, who won more than 50 grand prix and international titles including two world singles crowns in the 1980s, thinks her country needs to help out.
"As China is one of the strongest teams in the world, I think we have the responsibility to help the other less-developed countries to promote this sport," Li told Reuters on the sidelines of this week's session of the CPPCC, an advisory body to China's parliament.
One way that China could help is by letting leading players go abroad to play and coach at the end of their careers. Some hoping to do this, however, have been accused of "treachery".
Li thinks this unfair and once the national team has dispensed with a players' services, they should be free to go.
"I don't think it's very bad for China," said Li.

We all know how many players from a country, no need to be reminded. However, it is a topic which is worth considering. Probably :

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

and so on

Please be reminded this is a Discussion Forum, no one is attacking no one, please DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND.

That would be a kiss of death for badminton, paying fans would demand to see the best players participating. Restricting the number of top ranked players from CHN so that lesser ranked players have a chance to win would diminish the sports. We should recognize CHN's prowess in badminton, to promote the sport CHN may want to send out their ex-nationals like CH and XXZ to play/train other countries or share their training method with the rest of the world.

One way that China could help is by letting leading players go abroad to play and coach at the end of their careers. Some hoping to do this, however, have been accused of "treachery".
Li thinks this unfair and once the national team has dispensed with a players' services, they should be free to go.
"I don't think it's very bad for China," said Li.

I agree, it's ridiculous that they should be looked down upon by their own country for helping out others.

it is not about the number of players you can send but it is rather about the quality of the players. I don't understand why everyone is bashing China for all Chinese semi-final but not their country man who couldn't make it to the semi. :(
I have nothing against China for the all-Chinese semifinals. But I do find them incredibly boring. They seem less competitive, not only between the players but between the spectators and supporters as well (I'm talking about the all-[insert country here] matches not the Chinese players :)).

Back to the topic (ahem)

My picks (winners in bold as always®) Note the registered trademark for that statement :D :D

MS
Dan LIN over Chunlai BAO. Both players have played a few 3 setters, indicating inconsistency. However, when push comes to shove, expect LD to shove, and shove hard
Jin CHEN over Yu CHEN. CJ scored a character win over the tough KJ. I think nobody gives CY enough respect but CJ should have just enough of everything to win

WS
Xingfang XIE over Lin ZHU. I'm in a total flux over this one. On one hand I predicted XXF to take the title. On th other, I love the way ZL is playing. I guess I better stick to my original hunch
Ning ZHANG over Hongyan PI. Pi doesn't have the weapons to take down ZN. She better hope for 3 veeeeeerrry long games

MD
Candra WIJAYA/Tony GUNAWAN over Haifeng FU/Yun CAI. Brains will beat brawn
Kien Keat KOO/Boon Heong TAN over Jens ERIKSEN/Marrtin LUNDGAARD HANSEN. Youth will beat experience

WD
Ling GAO/Sui HUANG over Yawen ZHANG/Yili WEI. The title is theirs for the taking
Wei YANG/Jiewen ZHANG over Pei Tty WONG/Eei Hui CHIN. Can't see any other result. The Chinese are too strong

XD
Ling GAO/Bo ZHENG over Yang (F) YU/Hanbin HE. GL is on a mission and ZB better fall in line and not f*** it up
Yawen ZHANG/Zhongbo XIE over Donna KELLOGG/Anthony CLARK. The last of the English falls

Back to the topic (ahem)

Candra WIJAYA/Tony GUNAWAN over Haifeng FU/Yun CAI. Brains will beat brawn

Lol.... u sayin Cai/Fu r 2 big guys without a brain? U'll get the bash later:p:p:p
Funny, but i support yr prediction :D

XD
Ling GAO/Bo ZHENG over Yang (F) YU/Hanbin HE. GL is on a mission and ZB better fall in line and not f*** it up

LOL

MS
Chen Yu over Chen Jin

MD
Haifeng FU/Yun CAI overCandra WIJAYA/Tony GUNAWAN

ERIKSEN/Marrtin LUNDGAARD HANSEN over
Kien Keat KOO/Boon Heong TAN

i think this last one will be close. im guessing a tight 3 setter

Why there is a (F) in the xd Yang (F) YU/Hanbin HE ? anybody knows?

Just because CHN is dominating and all the power to them, to penalize them and limit the number of players from CHN would not be fair. I remember WC05, when the defending champion XXZ cannot participate because the ranked 4th in CHN, that is disappointing. I share your concern that we are going to see all CHN SF in MS and very soon WS too, and that is not healthy for the sport to grow. Just check out the column from Badminton Planet which I extracted below and Li ling Wei said the same thing:

China should help other countries, says Li

By Nick Mulvenney
BEIJING, March 9 (Reuters) - Former badminton great Li Lingwei believes China has a responsibility to help other nations develop in the sport so that it can flourish internationally.
Although countries like Indonesia, Malaysia and Denmark still produce top players, China is becoming increasing dominant and won all but one of the titles at last year's world championships.
Li, who won more than 50 grand prix and international titles including two world singles crowns in the 1980s, thinks her country needs to help out.
"As China is one of the strongest teams in the world, I think we have the responsibility to help the other less-developed countries to promote this sport," Li told Reuters on the sidelines of this week's session of the CPPCC, an advisory body to China's parliament.
One way that China could help is by letting leading players go abroad to play and coach at the end of their careers. Some hoping to do this, however, have been accused of "treachery".
Li thinks this unfair and once the national team has dispensed with a players' services, they should be free to go.
"I don't think it's very bad for China," said Li.



Okay, your view is something worth CONSIDERING, but it is unlikely to happen, because all countries would want the best of themself. Is is not impossible too, however, most of own country coach will only opt for this option if their service is not being appreciated in own country.

It just like India, India can be a good complement to China in igniting the badminton game worldwide in long time ago. India somehow diminished gradually due to some internal reasons. There were simply no encouragement nor support from neighbour countries.

China on the other hand is able to produce many more world-class players compared with India and other countries. I suppose China's government and badminton authorities are more passionate about the game and take pains to nurture and develop their talents at a much earlier age.

As I have said previously, it is quite unlikely sponsorship, guidelines and so on so forth will initially come from them willingly but it can be good a stepping stone. So both local and foreign badminton activities can benefit if big corporations in China and other countries want to join the global community. It can be a real business in turn.

Other Countries badminton authorities will have to make real attempts to develop their local badminton talents quickly so that they can match the best from China. It seems other countries in the West are too interested in badminton as it is getting popular, successful sports which can turn in more profits much faster. Not unless the badminton authorities there decide that they want to be in the same mould, a cooperation, willingness & effort.

Something is needed to be sacrificed in order to achieve something. It is about how to deal with something IMPERFECT PERFECTLY !

I agree, it's ridiculous that they should be looked down upon by their own country for helping out others.

I don't mind watching All Chinese SF or Final as long as there's no walk over for those fake injuries. Limiting the Open to certain quota doesn't make sense, Malaysia had close to 10 MS players and only 1 managed to advance to QF, imagine we only send 3 :crying:
Li Ling Wei is right, open the door for those who still desire to play but no longer under the national team to compete makes more sense. Chandra and Tony is a very good example and I hope Chen Hong will be allowed to participate even though he's no longer in national team. To make badminton popular, WBF have to commercialize this sport by encourage players to participate as independent body.

I don't mind watching All Chinese SF or Final as long as there's no walk over for those fake injuries.
First get rid of LYB :D :D

Lin Dan over Bao Chunlai - I'll be surprised if Lin Dan manages to lose. Bao is certainly a great player, but he just doesn't seem to have anything other than his height in his game to really stand out amongst the other top players.

Chen Jin over Chen Yu - I'm very even here. I predicted that Lee Chong Wei might edge out over CY this time but I got this wrong. I'm afraid I'll have to bet against him again. I really feel Chen Jin will win this one :).

Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya over Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun - They've been consistent in beating the Chinese pair recently and I think they'll do so again.

Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong over Martin Lungaard Hansen/Jens Eriksen - The Malaysian pair have been great. I love how they put everything into their game. It might be close but I think they can win it in two.

Zhu Lin over Xie Xingfang - Risky prediction, but I think Zhu Lin has been very very impressive lately. It's a tough call.

Zhang Ning over Pi Hongyan - I'd love Pi Hongyan to win and make things interesting, but I'd also like Zhang Ning to win her AE. And I don't think Pi will be able to stop her.

Gao Ling/Huang Sui over Zhang Yawen/Wei Yili - GL/HS better win as I paid a lot for them on Badminton Manager :D.

Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen over Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui - End of the road for the MAS pair. Chinese too strong.

Gao Ling/Zheng Bo over Yang (F) - ? Yu/He Hanbin - Sick of typing.

Zhang Yawen/Xie Zhongbo over Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg - Sick of typing.

ALL England Open -> might as well be > ALL CHINESE OPEN Affairs....

Why there is a (F) in the xd Yang (F) YU/Hanbin HE ? anybody knows?

Okay, since nobody tells me, I found myself.

The (F) indicates Female. Because there is a Yang YU already who is a male. So an F is used to distinguish them.

By the way, there should not be any surprise to have an all China semis. Look at the ranking for super series:

http://internationalbadminton.org/ssmensingles.asp

Bao CL
Chen Jin
Lin Dan
Chen Yu

are already the top 4 before all England open, just after Korea open. So there is no wonder. Of course, the all England performance will strengthen their rankings.

By the way, the male Yang YU is Zhang Ning's husband.

We all know how many players from a country, no need to be reminded. However, it is a topic which is worth considering. Probably :

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player
.

Don't agree.

So, the powerhouses (CHN especially) will be punished because they are too good. When XXZ got left out from the Olympics (due to limited entries per nation), I got such a bad taste in my mouth. How many other sports you see a WC champ and a WC runner up (XXF) can't even make the Olympics team? :eek:

MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Bao Chunlai -- Lin Dan has been consistent and unless Bao springs an unlikely surprise, Lin should walk away with another All-England title.

Chen Yu vs Chen Jin -- battle of the Chens. Chen Yu has been showing good results in the past few mths. However, I favor the younger Chen.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya -- can the oldies win another All-England title here? I hope so.

Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen -- the Malaysians have the edge...and it will be unthinkable if MAS were to return back without a title.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Xie Xingfang vs Zhu Lin -- it could be a happy ending for Xie and Lin this week.

Pi Hongyan vs Zhang Ning -- the old maestro to beat the only non-Chinese player in the semi-final.

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Du Jing/Yu Yang -- the senior pair could win their 7th All-England titles.

Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen -- a tough match for the MAS pair....and it's unlikely they will win.

MIXED DOUBLES
He Hanbin/Yu Yang vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling -- the senior pair to claim their first All-England title!

Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen -- again, an All-Chinese Final beckons...

By the way, the male Yang YU is Zhang Ning's husband.

Wooh, u r Live Reporter, faster than ABCs news, haha

Where are you alfa2 ?
You said if LEE CW is not injured, he can beat CY.
But LEE CW do not think so.
[I will be competing in the All-England (starting on Tuesday at Birmingham) and fortunately, I am injury free. ]--------------
LEE CW (From The Star ) vbmenu_register("postmenu_525194", true);

LCW is injured but cant be seen from outsde.......:cool::cool::cool::cool:

Whoever do not agree, is either give opinion or suggestion just like OneToughBirdie, otherwise is not very nice to condemm others :p

May be they should just limit China in only sending their "B" team to every tournament to give other countries a chance... except for Women's singles and doubles, China has to send out team "C" or below.:p

kuakuakuakuakua:D:D:D:D:D:D:D bananaboy......does eating fruit help boosting your sense of humour?

My Prediction:

MS
LD VS BCL
CY VS CJ

MD
1,CAI/FU VS Tony/Candra(THREE SETS)
2,Tony/CandraVS CAI/FU (TWO SETS)
KKK/TBH VS ERIKSEN/LUNDGAARD HANSEN

WS
ZN VS PHY
ZL VS XXF

WD
YANG/ZHANG VS CEH/WPT
GAO/HUANG VS WEI/ZHANG

XD
ZHENG/GAO VS HE/YU
XIE/ZHANG VS CLARK/KELLOGG

prediction players into final:

MS: Lin Dan VS Chen Yu

WS : XXF VS ZN

MD: Cai/Fu VS KKK/TBH

WD: Gao Ling/ HUang Sui VS Yang Wei/ZJW

XD: Gao Ling/ ZB VS XZB/ ZYW

What a dissapoinment again for Indonesia specially in MD and XD. Hendra and partner didnot had the consistency to always play their best. Maybe still need time.

For Nova/Butet, probably lots of XD pairs in the world already know how to play them. Try to made Nova made all unforced errors and you will had big chance to win against them.

Last year we had Indonesia players in SF, this year, none! :(

I wonder what other nonsense reasons will PBSI give Indonesia badminton fans this time? Maybe lots of players injured and food poisoning????

lol, i'm pretty impressed by tony/candra for having reached the semi's...it'll be awesome if they can make it to the finals...and win.

aye, somebody pinch me :D:D:D

lol, i'm pretty impressed by tony/candra for having reached the semi's...it'll be awesome if they can make it to the finals...and win.

aye, somebody pinch me :D:D:D
hey sorry for an off topic question but do you know when and what time, since im from the US its kinda hard to watch these kinds of games live, the mens doubles semi final on tvants?

We all know how many players from a country, no need to be reminded. However, it is a topic which is worth considering. Probably :

(1) World Ranking from 1-5 -Send only 2 players
(2) World Ranking from 6-10 -Send 1 player
(3) World Ranking from 11-25 -Send 1 player

and so on

Please be reminded this is a Discussion Forum, no one is attacking no one, please DO NOT MISUNDERSTAND.

As a Malaysian, i can understand your view but i do not agree with you. I can understand you because your view represent MAS education system where maintaining quota is more important than actual performance.

People sharing your view must be either sitting high in our political related position or their hard core supporter.

The quota system no more already lah.

Sometimes some nations will dominate. There's nothing to do except for others to do better. Also maybe we fans can change a bit from nationalistic perspective to more appreciate individual talent.

it is not about the number of players you can send but it is rather about the quality of the players. I don't understand why everyone is bashing China for all Chinese semi-final but not their country man who couldn't make it to the semi. :(
CHN deservedly dominates this sport, they train ultra hard as Cooler said, and simply than the rest of the world and all the power and glory to them. Noone is bashing CHN for its dominance, I don't know where you draw this conclusion and I advise you read what we wrote. Check out the rows of empty seats, why IBF wants so badly to expand badminton to North America, badminton could be deleted from future Olympics, the purse money is so darn low compared to tennis when badminton is a tough sport to be very good at, mention badminton to north americans and they relate this sport to backyard sport, and even Li Ling Wei acknowledged in my previous quote that the sports needs to expand intentionally, therefore if CHN dominates all events, do you really think that is healthy? Now, ask yourself why Mr. Deep Thinker aka Mr. Punch Gunalan introduce the 21-point system after the old 15-point and 7-point system failed to neutralize CHN's might, because CHN can and will adapt eventually to anything. Punch knows as long this sport centers among the 5 powerhouses, it will never grow and sponsorship and TV coverage will be down the gutter!!!;)

kuakuakuakuakua:D:D:D:D:D:D:D bananaboy......does eating fruit help boosting your sense of humour?

Eating more fruits not only boost your sense of humour, but also may help you be a better badminton player as well... well, you still have to practice though.:cool::D:D:D

Seriously though, China recently sent their provincial team(something close to that) to Canada for a "show-off" match against the locals... and even though I didn't pay much attention to it, but I bet the Chinese team would have destroyed the Canadians easily(hope there wasn't any 21-0 matches):p

I wouldn't doubt it that even China's "B" team can still dominate most countries' "A" team... maybe not the Danes, Malaysians, Koreans, and indonesians in the Men events, but definitely China's B or C can still dominate in Women's events.

hey sorry for an off topic question but do you know when and what time, since im from the US its kinda hard to watch these kinds of games live, the mens doubles semi final on tvants?

I'm sorry, but I am just like you, hehe. I can't watch it either. I am waiting for a kind BC member to share it :D

I wonder what other nonsense reasons will PBSI give Indonesia badminton fans this time? Maybe lots of players injured and food poisoning????

How about Taufik destroyed the team's spirit when he decided to no-show.:p

I'm sorry, but I am just like you, hehe. I can't watch it either. I am waiting for a kind BC member to share it :D

awwww thx alot armotecdude :D:D i'll wait for the shares to :p

Okay, your view is something worth CONSIDERING, but it is unlikely to happen, because all countries would want the best of themself. Is is not impossible too, however, most of own country coach will only opt for this option if their service is not being appreciated in own country.

It just like India, India can be a good complement to China in igniting the badminton game worldwide in long time ago. India somehow diminished gradually due to some internal reasons. There were simply no encouragement nor support from neighbour countries.

China on the other hand is able to produce many more world-class players compared with India and other countries. I suppose China's government and badminton authorities are more passionate about the game and take pains to nurture and develop their talents at a much earlier age.

As I have said previously, it is quite unlikely sponsorship, guidelines and so on so forth will initially come from them willingly but it can be good a stepping stone. So both local and foreign badminton activities can benefit if big corporations in China and other countries want to join the global community. It can be a real business in turn.

Other Countries badminton authorities will have to make real attempts to develop their local badminton talents quickly so that they can match the best from China. It seems other countries in the West are too interested in badminton as it is getting popular, successful sports which can turn in more profits much faster. Not unless the badminton authorities there decide that they want to be in the same mould, a cooperation, willingness & effort.

Something is needed to be sacrificed in order to achieve something. It is about how to deal with something IMPERFECT PERFECTLY !

I really have a hard time digesting/understanding what you are trying to say. For us earthlings we can talk and talk for all we want in BC which is a great forum to express our thoughts and ideas on expanding this sport to North America. An ex-malaysian myself, I love both Malaysia (my siblings live there) and my adopted country Canada, but I really missed world class badminton, and would love to see the day when world class badminton can be played here than me flying half-way around the world to see the game. Li Ling Wei is recently admitted to Olympic Council, for her to voice this idea, someone may or will take notice. If you have better idea of how to expand badmiinton internationally, other than limiting top players, 21-point system then what other system that Mr. Deep Thinker can cook up, bless us with your intelligence.

Don't agree.

So, the powerhouses (CHN especially) will be punished because they are too good. When XXZ got left out from the Olympics (due to limited entries per nation), I got such a bad taste in my mouth. How many other sports you see a WC champ and a WC runner up (XXF) can't even make the Olympics team? :eek:
Exactly, XXZ can come play for Canada till he reaches retirement age and still be ranked #1 in Canada. I so look forward to see him play in WC05, that when I get there and found out he is not playing, what the heck of a tournament is that but I also recognize the dominance of CHN if the tourney is wide open as CHN could quite possibly qualify half the MS entry.

Exactly, XXZ can come play for Canada till he reaches retirement age and still be ranked #1 in Canada. I so look forward to see him play in WC05, that when I get there and found out he is not playing, what the heck of a tournament is that but I also recognize the dominance of CHN if the tourney is wide open as CHN could quite possibly qualify half the MS entry.

He(XXZ) is a coach already.

I like the brain and braun thingy. All da best to the players in the semifinals!
rgds:D

Back to the topic (ahem)

My picks (winners in bold as always®) Note the registered trademark for that statement :D :D

MS
Dan LIN over Chunlai BAO. Both players have played a few 3 setters, indicating inconsistency. However, when push comes to shove, expect LD to shove, and shove hard
Jin CHEN over Yu CHEN. CJ scored a character win over the tough KJ. I think nobody gives CY enough respect but CJ should have just enough of everything to win

WS
Xingfang XIE over Lin ZHU. I'm in a total flux over this one. On one hand I predicted XXF to take the title. On th other, I love the way ZL is playing. I guess I better stick to my original hunch
Ning ZHANG over Hongyan PI. Pi doesn't have the weapons to take down ZN. She better hope for 3 veeeeeerrry long games

MD
Candra WIJAYA/Tony GUNAWAN over Haifeng FU/Yun CAI. Brains will beat brawn
Kien Keat KOO/Boon Heong TAN over Jens ERIKSEN/Marrtin LUNDGAARD HANSEN. Youth will beat experience

WD
Ling GAO/Sui HUANG over Yawen ZHANG/Yili WEI. The title is theirs for the taking
Wei YANG/Jiewen ZHANG over Pei Tty WONG/Eei Hui CHIN. Can't see any other result. The Chinese are too strong

XD
Ling GAO/Bo ZHENG over Yang (F) YU/Hanbin HE. GL is on a mission and ZB better fall in line and not f*** it up
Yawen ZHANG/Zhongbo XIE over Donna KELLOGG/Anthony CLARK. The last of the English falls

Schedule of play on the TV Court (Court 2):
First match starting at 12:30pm GMT (8:30pm HKG, MAS, SIN time; 7:30pm WIB):
Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya
followed by Lin Dan vs Bao Chunlai
followed by Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen
followed by Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhagn Yawen
followed by Pi Hongyan vs Zhang Ning
followed by Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen

The MS chinese are too good. They deserve the credits. Hopefully KKK/TBH can come up with the goods.:D If they can keep the intensity like what they did when they played MO and Asian games, it shd be good.
rgds

arggghhhhh, really really frustrated man seeing CY chasing up LCW at 20-16 !!! KKK & TBH must beat Denmark MD today, revenge for their teammates !!! And also Good Job for WD WPT & CYH !!! We want a final for both MD & WD against China and take revenge !!!

ALL England Open -> might as well be > ALL CHINESE OPEN Affairs....

Call it China Open # 1. I don't mind an all CHN MS SF as long as there's match integrity, like the CHvsBCL CO06 final. That was a terrific match! I wouldn't be surprised if BCL gives W/O to LD tonight and then the MS play hooky in the final or half hooky..

My Prediction:

MS
LD VS BCL
CY VS CJ

MD
1,CAI/FU VS Tony/Candra(THREE SETS)
2,Tony/CandraVS CAI/FU (TWO SETS)
KKK/TBH VS ERIKSEN/LUNDGAARD HANSEN

WS
ZN VS PHY
ZL VS XXF

WD
YANG/ZHANG VS CEH/WPT
GAO/HUANG VS WEI/ZHANG

XD
ZHENG/GAO VS HE/YU
XIE/ZHANG VS CLARK/KELLOGG




i believe Candra/Tony will give the china pair a free lesson tonight... Enjoy the match, li de quan.... :)

CAI/FU VS Tony/Candra : 10 Mar 12.30 Crt 2

GL/HS VS WYL/ZYW : 10 Mar 13.00 Crt 3

LD VS BCL : 10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

KKK/TBH VS ERIKSEN/LUNDGAARD:10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

XXF VS ZL : 10 Mar 14.00 Crt 3

CLARK/KELLOGG VS XZB/ZYW : 10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

CY VS CJ : 10 Mar 15.00 Crt 3

PHY VS ZN :10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

HHB/YY VS ZB/GL : 10 Mar 16.00 Crt 3

CEH/WPT VS YW/ZJW : 10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

Ummm ... first of all, limiting the number of entries from a country to an open tournament is absolutely absurd. I won't even waste my time trying to explain why it is so absurd.

I sincerely hope that there won't be a single walkover. However, tactically speaking, there is no reason for walkover. For MS and MD, it is obvious. For WS, WD and XD, it is likely to be all-Chinese final anyway, so no reason for walkover as well.

My predictions:
Lin Dan vs Bao Chunlai
Chen Yu vs Chen Jin

Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen

Xie Xingfang vs Zhu Lin
Pi Hongyan vs Zhang Ning

Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen
Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen

He Hanbin/Yu Yang vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen

i believe Candra/Tony will give the china pair a free lesson tonight... Enjoy the match, li de quan.... :)

KKK/TBH , CAI/FU ,Tony/Candra , Markis/Hendra , JJS/LYD-------------
I like both of the pairs!!!!!!!!! guy,

CAI/FU VS Tony/Candra : 10 Mar 12.30 Crt 2

GL/HS VS WYL/ZYW : 10 Mar 13.00 Crt 3

LD VS BCL : 10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

KKK/TBH VS ERIKSEN/LUNDGAARD:10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

XXF VS ZL : 10 Mar 14.00 Crt 3

CLARK/KELLOGG VS XZB/ZYW : 10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

CY VS CJ : 10 Mar 15.00 Crt 3

PHY VS ZN :10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

HHB/YY VS ZB/GL : 10 Mar 16.00 Crt 3

CEH/WPT VS YW/ZJW : 10 Mar following previous match on Crt 2

Looks like Court 2 is the TV court. Only one China-China match and it's a good one, Lin v Bao. Xie v Zhu would have been nice too.

Court 3 are all China-China matches.

LCW is injured but cant be seen from outsde.......:cool::cool::cool::cool:

Oh man, finally we have the taufik-ist or indra of Malaysia.

Maybe it's injury of the heart, when WMC reportedly said they're only friends.

Call it China Open # 1. I don't mind an all CHN MS SF as long as there's match integrity, ..

I concur, but you never know. If there is indeed a "suspicious" walkover, the crowd should show their displeasure in no uncertain terms. If they paid good money, they should be receiving the goods.

i dont know who how you can justify that answer. i dont remember the last time an indonesian team won a tournament. having badminton skills means nothing, knowing how to use that skill is much more important.

technically, LD has the most badminton skills in the world since he's #1 and has been for the mast 2.5 years

World No 1 doesn't mean that he is the most skillful one. just look at Taufik, his ranking may be out of 20. but he won most of the "Important" matches against LD.

as u said, having skill is nothing. LD's speed is better than taufik but taufik has a better skill and knowing HOW TO USE it against LD.

if u say u cannot remember how many time (also when) Indonesia won the thomas cup. you r just trying to avoid from answering. google it.

i am not against chinese players, i am just giving my point of view. i like some of the chinese players too, such as Yang Yang and Zhao Jian Hua. i think their skills r finer than LD. ;)

My predictions:
Lin Dan vs Bao Chunlai
Chen Yu vs Chen Jin

Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen

Xie Xingfang vs Zhu Lin
Pi Hongyan vs Zhang Ning

Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen
Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen

He Hanbin/Yu Yang vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen

hcyong, you completely read my mind!

hcyong, you completely read my mind!

Most of it were obvious choices anyway. Only one or two need to consider a bit.

I concur, but you never know. If there is indeed a "suspicious" walkover, the crowd should show their displeasure in no uncertain terms. If they paid good money, they should be receiving the goods.

if i were LYB, i would just leave them be. treat this as a selection match for the Olympics. whoever wins will get a higher chance of getting picked next year.

CAI/FU 21-13,17-21,21-11 Tony/Candra don't know (06HKO)
Tony/Candra 21-19,21-19 CAI/FU 34 minutes(07 KOREA SUPER SERIES)
Tony/Candra 21-11,21-11 CAI/FU 25 minutes (06 JO)
KKK/TBH 21-18,17-21,21-14 ERIKSEN/LUNDGAARD 42 minutes (06 JO)

...whining and complaining abt why the all-CHN's MS & WS in the Semis, esp. the MS, then we can look no further than...................Taufik, himself......:p ;)
Now imagine if he woulda, coulda, shoulda play...who knows, he would've, could've, might've beaten LinDan in the QF.....and play in the Semis...:confused: :rolleyes: :p ...anyways..

back on topic, i wouldn't count out the ENG's XD pair of DKellogg&AClark playing against XZB&ZJW...Cos i have to consider that they're playing in front of their home crowd and remember, they are the current ENG XD National Champions..
Also, the MD matches are really hard to predict..It could go as what most of everyone has predicted and hoped, but those 4 pairs are pretty much equal..Remember last yr's barn-burner in the Thomas Cup match between JE/MLS against KKK/CCM?? who knows, maybe we'll see another one of those barn burner again this time around...Could there be a MD Final between 2 pairs of Old geezers??..hehe:p :D ;) :cool:
As for the WS, i wouldn't count out Zhu Lin too much as she has shown consistency the past 2-3 tourneys..;)

World No 1 doesn't mean that he is the most skillful one. just look at Taufik, his ranking may be out of 20. but he won most of the "Important" matches against LD.

as u said, having skill is nothing. LD's speed is better than taufik but taufik has a better skill and knowing HOW TO USE it against LD.

if u say u cannot remember how many time (also when) Indonesia won the thomas cup. you r just trying to avoid from answering. google it.

i am not against chinese players, i am just giving my point of view. i like some of the chinese players too, such as Yang Yang and Zhao Jian Hua. i think their skills r finer than LD. ;)
i meant individual events, but i see your point.

i know that indonesia has been quite dominant in the thomas cup tournaments, but not many indonesians have won individual titles on a consistent basis. yess one could argue that taufik has won the 'important' ones, but that simply proves that he cant always give 100% of his effort for all the tournaments that he enters. this maybe why the tournaments he enters usually have some months seperating them.

also, taufik doesnt beat anybody by pure 'skill'. nobody can do that. im pretty sure it's called 'tactics'. :rolleyes: taufik knows LD's weak points, and exploits them very well. this isnt by using his 'skill', it's by watching videos before games.

My predictions in in bold!!
Lin Dan vs Bao Chunlai . i think that Lin Dan will win this match!!!
Chen Yu vs Chen Jin Chen Jin will certainly beat Chen Yu

Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya i hope that the mix country pair with beat china!! cause i dont all china to be in the final of every event!!1
Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong vs Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen i think that Koo/Tan will beat the Dens!!! KOO/Tan RockzZzz

Xie Xingfang vs Zhu Lin!!Definitely to XIe Xing Fang
Pi Hongyan vs Zhang Ning Definitely to Zhang Ning

Gao Ling/Huang Sui vs Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen!!sure to GAO/Huang
Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui vs Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen HOpe the malaysians will beat the chinese pair!!cause yesterday in the quarter final!they beat the Cheng/Chien from taipei!!and the cheng/chien usually beat them a lot!!and now they are going to take the revenge

He Hanbin/Yu Yang vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling hope an upset to He/Yu !!dont zheng and Gao always!!!
Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg vs Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen Hope to the English pair!!dont want both chinese pair to the final!!!!

Malaysia rockz!!! beat the chinese pair all out!faster improve for the wilson swiss open!! teach them the lesson!!! Malaysia player play properly tonight and beat the Danes and the Chinese!!! all the best!!Good Luck!!!

From Regards,
2007

How about Taufik destroyed the team's spirit when he decided to no-show.:p
Son, don't mess with Taufik. Until you can show us that your countrymen can beat Kendrick Lee of Singapore consistently:D If not your post is just like Loopy's( refer to your earlier post ):p

I would settle for decent performances for MAS players, though Koo/Tan are primed to win. Having said that Eriksen/Lundgaard are amongst the most worthy of opponents (but they do have trouble with speedy pairs).

As for Wong/Chin, not putting any hope, only for them to regain their confidence after losing unexpectedly early in a few recent tournaments.

Oh man, finally we have the taufik-ist or indra of Malaysia.

Maybe it's injury of the heart, when WMC reportedly said they're only friends.

hahahaha.....no matter what the injury was (infect none, just kidding) or under what kind of pressure, losing is losing !!! making more excuses for it doesnt help at all except for enhancing the lost itself......

and for the china dominance issue/promoting badminton globally......the idea of restricting the CHI players (less player) from playing international tournament is absolutely not rational in any point of view. (it is almost like asking girls not to wear sexy outfits just to reduce the rate of rape cases).

Ok let's go back to the main incident that have caused all these arguments - all CHI MS in semi final. Yes, it would degrade badminton from being promoted globally, but who's fault are these???

These are our faults, all players of other nations that have failed to stop the Chinese from advancing to semi final. Noone is ever too good, it is just whether how bad you really want to win that particular game (not for those who lost gracefully like HH). I respect and admire the determination of TH in winning AG06 though LD was in his prime at that time.

Don't want to see all Chinese semi-final happening again?? Buck up alot and pls play professional badminton, not yoyo'ing around......and for Glamour Boy, pls respect the sport you play, cause you will b nothing close to what you are now if not because of this sport. Love politics? Be a politician.....:rolleyes::(:(:(

Someone is directing to me??:rolleyes::rolleyes: Not genuine to say it directly, never mind. :confused: :confused: Anyway, Wait for me people, want to join the crowd. Cant rush back to watch Astro Live :crying: :crying: :crying:

Someone is directing to me??:rolleyes::rolleyes: Not genuine to say it directly, never mind. :confused: :confused: Anyway, Wait for me people, want to join the crowd. Cant rush back to watch Astro Live :crying: :crying: :crying:

Oh yeah, still have some time to rush for the show. See ya. Praise the Lord ! :)

wat time the game start ah??

Any live streaming from internet?

GAMBATE oh!!Malaysia Boleh!!

http://www.astro.com.my/v5/search/search.asp go there ..... see tomorow's schedule ...... better than nuthing mah .. rite not ?

tvants guang dong ti yu live now

http://www.astro.com.my/v5/search/search.asp go there ..... see tomorow's schedule ...... better than nuthing mah .. rite not ?wads tat?? live streaming meh??

tony/candra doin well so far.... 21-18 taking the first game

lol what a finish, shot between cai and fu and they both leave it. candra/tony take first game 21-18

predictions:

MS:
LIN Dan vs BAO Chunlai - LD to take it home although im hoping for BCL to win
CHEN Yu vs CHEN Jin - CJ to take it home although im hoping for CY to win

MD:
KKK/TBH vs MLH/JE - MAS to bring it home for sure!!!!!
CY/FHF vs TG/CW - Ina/USA will win it...

what was the fault about? I didnt hear it well

lol what a finish, shot between cai and fu and they both leave it. candra/tony take first game 21-18
u watchin it now?

GDTV on tvants, probably works on ppstream too

cant wait for kkk/tbh to play later

what was the fault about? I didnt hear it well

I heard something like "touch racket".

http://cache.tvants.com/detail.asp?id=305350
live stream on gdtv with tvants

13:11,candra/tony VS CAI/FU ,G2

kinda quiet in here though... hahaha

thx wai shing :)

someone help!!! that link is all chinese!! i dun get a word of it haha

click the little yellow icon with speaker inside , I'm assuming you have tvants right?

anybody kind enuf??

oops.... i dun.. hahaha

Cai n Fu took 2nd game home 21-19

Cai n Fu took 2nd game home 21-19
Excellent now win it! :cool:

ok then, you have to install tvants first, use this
http://download2.tvants.com/pub/tvants/tvants1/win32/bin/TvantsSetup.EXE

I think Fu played pretty well today. Cai seemed lost most of the time and Candra/Tony were focusing their attacks on him. Fu even had to cover up for Cai at the front.

big shock! gao ling lost first game 21-9!!! tats pretty unusual...!!!!

im hoping for Cai_Fu to win!! who is behind me????

I think Fu played pretty well today. Cai seemed lost most of the time and Candra/Tony were focusing their attacks on him. Fu even had to cover up for Cai at the front.
yeah I agree, but youre writing this as if it was already over lol
but seriously both cai and fu's defense need some tuning. On the other hand, quite a handful of errors from both sides

im hoping for Cai_Fu to win!! who is behind me????
Me! Me! *Raise hand*

Me! Me! *Raise hand*
my main reason is because kkk/tbh has a bigger chance of beating them hahaha :D :D if compared to tg/cw hehe

my main reason is because kkk/tbh has a bigger chance of beating them hahaha :D :D if compared to tg/cw hehe
Did the tvants install link I gave you work?

cai n fu just need one more... come on

Score Update:

FH/CY : 18 21 21
TG/CW: 21 19 18

GL/HS : 09 14
ZY/WY: 21 10

Congrats to Fu and Cai!

Won Won Won!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

my main reason is because kkk/tbh has a bigger chance of beating them hahaha :D :D if compared to tg/cw hehe
I've figured that out;)

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 15
ZY/WY: 21 10

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

the top seed wins the match
tight match overall
they won the rubber set 21-18

wow ... cai/fu won

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 15
ZY/WY: 21 12

Due up: LD vs. BCL!

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

if KKK/TBH wins tonite......malaysia will hav a bright chance of winning the AE title again

wow, matchpoint was an ace flick serve by fu...candra not happy about that

neh neh neh neh neh neh... haha

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 15
ZY/WY: 21 12

Due up: LD vs. BCL!

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18


So sad...TG/CW & PG are all out! :(

yup Candra stood rooted for like what, 5 seconds?

Yes, what a match point....

I think TG was not in his best form today...

I've figured that out;)
ur msian as well?? hopefully haha :D

You did a good job , CAI/FU
Gook luck tomorrow.

i must say..Fu and cai hav improved a lot lately from what i see...
but yeah Tony wasnt his usual best IMO

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 17
ZY/WY: 21 17

LD: 2
BC: 0

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

Age is the biggest advantage of cai/fu to tony/candra

I like Tony attitude...He is smiling even though he lose...However, both are very good pair...

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 18
ZY/WY: 21 17

LD: 3
BC: 1

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

Why my live scoring not moving at all???Keep posting the results please...Thanks...

ld 4-1 ahead of bao bao

Overall, I think it was quite an interesting match, certainly worth downloading. Both sides were really fast, with both Cai and Tony making lots of mistakes. However, the Chinese pair was a bit luckier, with the shuttle barely crossing the net a number of times.

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 20
ZY/WY: 21 19

LD: 9
BC: 2

Man, looks like LD is out for blood.

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

my goodness.. this is too much.... LD 9-3 ahead... WOW

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21
ZY/WY: 21 19

LD: 10
BC: 04

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 20
ZY/WY: 21 19

LD: 9
BC: 2

Man, looks like LD is out for blood.

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18
He is wearing the red shirt:p

10-4 now.. LD ahead...

lin and bao are not at the same level, though bao is obviuously taller .

Yes, what a match point....

I think TG was not in his best form today...


Haahaahaa!!!!!!!!
I don't think so .
CAI/FU win because they are relatively young .
Tony/Candra are lacking in beef.
This is the reason.

He is wearing the red shirt:p
who is wearing red??

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 01
ZY/WY: 21 19 02

LD: 11
BC: 05

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

wow, nice long rally at 10-4

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 03
ZY/WY: 21 19 03

LD: 13
BC: 07

Fu/Cai beat Tony/Candra: 18-21, 21-19, 21-18

Bao sucks. I would like call him beauty Bao.

lin and bao are not at the same level, though bao is obviuously taller .
hahaha... taller doesn mean tat he is a level higher hahaha :D

any idea when m'sia doubles gonna play? after the singles match?

kinda bored...chn vs chn

haha, LD diving save, but missed

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 04
ZY/WY: 21 19 05

LD: 15
BC: 09

haaha, lin and bao too fast for the umpire. they started playing before she said "play" at 11-5, she had to shout "let" like 10 times before they actually stopped

ur msian as well?? hopefully haha :D
Yes, I'm a Malaysian I'm supporting Cai/Fu for a different reason.;) Btw, what's wrong with Bao's hair?:confused: It looks as though he just woke up or something.

what a save by LD

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 04
ZY/WY: 21 19 10

LD: 17
BC: 12

ZY/WY pulling away??!!?!?

17-12 in favour of LD

am I wrong? It seems LD wears the same kind of shirt as tony/candra did.

am I wrong? It seems LD wears the same kind of shirt as tony/candra did.
yea its the same shirt.
on a related note the shirts from last year's AE were better looking in my opinion

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 05
ZY/WY: 21 19 11

LD: 20
BC: 13

LD tearing up BCL. Same with ZY and WY!

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 07
ZY/WY: 21 19 12

LD: 21
BC: 14

suddenly changed to cctv5???

anyone know whether other channels are showing the AE?

suddenly changed to cctv5???
yup, and I thought it was my problem. Hey, we want GDTV back! What the...:mad:

Bao is hopeless, if he doesn't change his playing style. IMHO, his attacking is even not as aggressive as ZhangNing

aiya, what's wrong with GL/HS? playing such an aweful match!

ppstream gdtv\\



anyone know whether other channels are showing the AE?

yup, and I thought it was my problem. Hey, we want GDTV back! What the...:mad:

How do we get GDTV on Tvants? I had the same problem. In the TVANTS list, the Chinese channels appear as square boxes so I have no idea what is what.

Score Update:

GL/HS : 09 21 14
ZY/WY: 21 19 19

LD: 21 07
BC: 14 07

thks Affaye......

oh well, not seven in a row....congrats to zhang/wei

Score Update:

LD: 21 07
BC: 14 08

ZY/WY beat GL/HS. GL/HS's reign of 6 straight AEs is over. Long live the Queens!

Bao is hopeless, if he doesn't change his playing style. IMHO, his attacking is even not as aggressive as ZhangNing

lol and this I read...

"His offensive skills are, together with Hafiz, the best in the world but he just cannot put the pieces together and makes too many unforced errors. Plus, he is way too weak mentally."


What a crackup

What's going on GDTV changed to CCTV!!!!! Help please!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

How do we get GDTV on Tvants? I had the same problem. In the TVANTS list, the Chinese channels appear as square boxes so I have no idea what is what.
Just click on GD sports, I can't read what's the rest either.

Gl/hs Vs Zyw/wyl ?????????????????????

God! What happen to Gao Ling & Huang Sui. Very disappointed :crying: . Hope she will play well in the XD.

Score Update:

LD: 21 11
BC: 14 13

XF: 0
ZL: 0

Anyone managed to watch GDTV via PPStream? I tried and its buffering all the time.. and still bufffering :mad:

It happens all the time with tvants...the sponsors changed their source to CCTv5...seems like they've done it to all the gdtv channels this time. just change to ppstream and watch gdtv from there.
ppstream has inferior quality image though

no problem :)


thks Affaye......

God! What happen to Gao Ling & Huang Sui. Very disappointed :crying: . Hope she will play well in the XD.
Maybe Gao Ling is tired after yesterday's thrilling, energy-sapping XD match.

Score Update:

LD: 21 16
BC: 14 14

XF: 1
ZL: 1

LD makes his move!

Just click on GD sports, I can't read what's the rest either.


I cannot find GD sports. All I get is CCTV5.

ppstream gdtv link:
http://www.ppstream.com/tv_online.php?cl=ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB

that's what i thought as well. yesterdays XD was quite exhausting

Score Update:

LD: 21 18
BC: 14 15

XF: 2
ZL: 4

Go ZL! Go LD!

Isn't badminton a big thing in China? How come only GDTV is broadcasting such an important tournament?

Score Update:

LD: 21 19
BC: 14 15

XF: 2
ZL: 5

LD smells victory...

if you are using xpsp2, u might need to modify tcpip.sys file. the program has such setting for you.

Anyone managed to watch GDTV via PPStream? I tried and its buffering all the time.. and still bufffering :mad:

Its goodbye Bao

no, soccer is way bigger

Isn't badminton a big thing in China? How come only GDTV is broadcasting such an important tournament?

KKK/TBH match is next.....go malaysia boleh...

Score Update:

LD beat BCL 21-14, 21-16

XF: 4
ZL: 6

if KKK/TBH wins tonite......malaysia will hav a bright chance of winning the AE title again

you sounded like we have won it 3 years in a row.....:D:D:D

Score Update:

XF: 6
ZL: 6

KKK/TBH: 0
Jen/Mar : 0

alright, MD about to commence ... ikei!!!

Score Update:

XF: 9
ZL: 8

KKK/TBH: 0
Jen/Mar : 0

Score Update:

XF: 11
ZL: 09

KKK/TBH: 0
Jen/Mar : 0

Ahhhh, this is the life. Played badminton from 10pm-4am, then went to eat, came back to the office at 5:30am and now watching the AE. Doesn't get too much better than this. :p :D :D :D

if you are using xpsp2, u might need to modify tcpip.sys file. the program has such setting for you.
I've never experienced any problem using PPStream, maybe just not my luck. Anyway, thanks!

Try BTV-6 thru fei-dian but not as smooth.....its live...

Score Update:

XF: 15
ZL: 11

KKK/TBH: 0
Jen/Mar : 0

ZL jia you!

Score Update:

XF: 11
ZL: 09

KKK/TBH: 0
Jen/Mar : 0

Ahhhh, this is the life. Played badminton from 10pm-4am, then went to eat, came back to the office at 5:30am and now watching the AE. Doesn't get too much better than this. :p :D :D :D
How about some sleep time lol?

Try BTV-6 thru fei-dian but not as smooth.....its live...
Can you provide us the link? Please, please...

Score Update:

XF: 18
ZL: 11

KKK/TBH: 4
Jen/Mar : 2

ZL jia you! Jens/Martin: jia you!

Score Update:

XF: 20
ZL: 12

KKK/TBH: 4
Jen/Mar : 3

Dang, ZL is getting rocked. :( ...:crying: ...:p

How about some sleep time lol?

Sleep? Who has time to sleep? :p

if ppstream does not work, maybe sopcast is a choice

Score Update:

XF: 21
ZL: 14

KKK/TBH: 5
Jen/Mar : 5

Score Update:

XF: 21 0
ZL: 14 0

KKK/TBH: 5
Jen/Mar : 7

Go go Zhu Lin! I really hope this can be a breakthrough for her career.

downloaded ppstream but the chinese characters are all garbled.....

Score Update:

XF: 21 3
ZL: 14 3

KKK/TBH: 09
Jen/Mar : 10

downloaded ppstream but the chinese characters are all garbled.....
maybe this will help?
http://www.ppstream.com/tv_online.php?cl=ppstream://125.93.52.5:44000/K3332FBZBQKDZYSQXL7VJRUEWOCGHHYB