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samuel882
07-26-2007, 08:45 PM
Yeah.. Consistency is always be the main factors for any young and upcoming pairs to success

koo_fan
07-26-2007, 11:27 PM
KKK is very good at the net, but he has to work on the consistency. Sometimes he tends to lost focus after a few mistakes, thats when Rexy's shouting instruction at the back to keep him focus.
Just one explanation.HE'S A LEARNING BADMINTON PLAYER.

samuel882
07-27-2007, 10:42 AM
Just one explanation.HE'S A LEARNING BADMINTON PLAYER.
Unfortunately .. the WC is not the perfect timing for "the learning" :D:D

koo_fan
07-27-2007, 07:05 PM
Unfortunately .. the WC is not the perfect timing for "the learning" :D:D
We will see a complete KKK in the WC.I hope he will be able to be the real him when the WC is taking place.

samuel882
07-27-2007, 07:10 PM
We will see a complete KKK in the WC.I hope he will be able to be the real him when the WC is taking place.
Hopes ur prediction gets true.. Many fans would love to see KKK prevail there in KL:D:D

koo_fan
07-27-2007, 07:35 PM
Hopes ur prediction gets true.. Many fans would love to see KKK prevail there in KL:D:D
With God blessing...

ben95
07-29-2007, 04:56 PM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.

samuel882
07-29-2007, 06:21 PM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.
VERY RARE chances for CTF-LWW to success in this WC.. They are slow in attack & not strong in their attack..
The age will be their main barriers. Although the older JE/MLH of the Danes did have some good results.. But MAS pair not as tactically superior as the Danes..
With the MAS pairs styles of Play..They are not expected to mount a strong challenge in the coming WC.

ants
07-29-2007, 06:44 PM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.

I dont mind if you are referring his antics on court. Or are you reffering to his arrogance as a person?

samuel882
07-29-2007, 07:01 PM
KKK is completely NOT Arrogant iF compare with LD :)

ants
07-29-2007, 07:18 PM
He is definately not arrogant at all. On court yes.. but once the games finish, he is a different person.

Dreamzz
07-29-2007, 07:22 PM
is LD an arrogant person off the court?
i haven't really heard that many complaints about him ... i think it's a bit unfair on him.
i think he gets picked on because he's too successful, which is only natural i guess.

samuel882
07-29-2007, 07:49 PM
is LD an arrogant person off the court?
i haven't really heard that many complaints about him ... i think it's a bit unfair on him.
i think he gets picked on because he's too successful, which is only natural i guess.
Even TH himself ever said LD is public... Does this meant that he envy of LD success?? Definitely NO !!
LD attitude both on & off the court its agreed by many spectators as arrogant. Especially his comment after the court which echoed by his coach LYB.. :cool:

abedeng
07-29-2007, 08:10 PM
CHN players have been "groomed" to only speak to the tune of the Chinese BA. What LD actually feels could be very different from what he says ......

He cannot disagree with Chinese BA if he wants to keep his place. It helps the association run like clockwork. More "democratic" BAs tend to be less successful ......

xofrevlis
07-29-2007, 08:32 PM
Most spectators seem to judge LD's arrogance by the way he looks rather than what he has said. Do not confuse being unfriendly with being arrogant. China players have never opened up too much to oponents but CH seems to have after leaving the national squad. Perhaps this is in some way to do with player protocol.

Basically, it is impossible to judge if a person is arrogant or not just by his facial expression. When TH said that LD was arrogant, that was basically it; nothing to back-up that claim. It could be that TH is sharing the same perception as the many spectators who have labelled LD this way.

Joyous
07-29-2007, 09:05 PM
As it is said, if you don't make mistakes in life, it's because you never really live. Sigh, when will all these criticizing & belittling of player's character end?
All these players have been gifted in different ways & I think as a badminton fan, I want to enjoy watching their performance rather than focus on their less than 100% perfect behaviour on court or even off-court. I don't really know all these players on a one-to-one personal basis, do you?

tjl_vanguard
07-29-2007, 10:47 PM
i've seen kkk b4.. in person of cuz.. b4 MO'06 in kuching.. he is super duper arrogant b4 the match... not even a smile.. but right after the match, he was smiling all da best (maybe cuz he won)... but he does not seem "arrogant" at all....

robin7
07-29-2007, 10:52 PM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.

I think u simply meanU don't WANT KKK/TBH to win because u don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude).:D

Well, people can choose whom they want/wish to win or not to win. To me, I don't want LD to win just simply because I don't like him (he is arrogant too)!:D

robin7
07-29-2007, 11:03 PM
i've seen kkk b4.. in person of cuz.. b4 MO'06 in kuching.. he is super duper arrogant b4 the match... not even a smile.. but right after the match, he was smiling all da best (maybe cuz he won)... but he does not seem "arrogant" at all....

To me, being "arrogant" on court is one way to stay pumped up & focused for some players.:cool:

Frankly, I used to dislike Rexy when he was a player because his "arrogance" on court. I don't like Maria Sharapova because she doesn't smile at all on court & she's like on top of the world off court. We can't force everyone to be like Gao Ling, always smiling whether on-court or off-court.:)

abedeng
07-30-2007, 12:31 AM
Ok, ok, arrogant or not, may the best player win!!!! And the spectators coming to see them (me included) get their money's worth.

pjswift
07-30-2007, 01:05 AM
Most spectators seem to judge LD's arrogance by the way he looks rather than what he has said. Do not confuse being unfriendly with being arrogant. China players have never opened up too much to oponents but CH seems to have after leaving the national squad. Perhaps this is in some way to do with player protocol.

Basically, it is impossible to judge if a person is arrogant or not just by his facial expression. When TH said that LD was arrogant, that was basically it; nothing to back-up that claim. It could be that TH is sharing the same perception as the many spectators who have labelled LD this way.
I've seen how LD,TH and XXZ responded to fans who approached them to have photos taken. LD just walked away; both TH and XXZ obliged smilingly.
LD was too young (3, 4 years ago?) to realise that it took a lot of guts for those fans to approach him as they needed to overcome the fear of rejection first. I'm sure his arrogance index has come down since. Whatever mistakes he has made in the past, he has been paying dearly for it and will continue to do so in this region. Let's concentrate on his badminton rather than his behaviour.

jeremyjuve
07-30-2007, 01:08 AM
I hope that it will be a KKK/TBH vs FENG YUN finals,but i doubt if that's gonna happen...i just got feeling that one of these pairs will fall before the finals & im hoping that it won't be KKK/TBH..many things can happen when the event starts....
for me the best bet will be FENG YUN based on form, don't get me wrong, i really want MAS players to win it (especially KKK/TBH & ZAKRY/FAIRUZIZUAN) they're for me the likeliest to do it for MAS and ofcoz CTF/LWW(on their days)..if i really have to put $ on it, i will still bet for KKK/TBH coz on their days, they r simply sensational/unbeatable.....cheerzz

zqloy
07-30-2007, 01:52 AM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.

Lol.... if u think KKK is "arrogant", u should look at Cai/Fu and CTF/LWW's on court antics, both pairs r must be 2x KKK's arrogance.

koo_fan
07-30-2007, 05:18 AM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.
Typical opinions from a fan full with hatred for KKK.im not suprised.it happens long time ago

Felicia_txh
07-30-2007, 07:23 AM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.
I think his cool face on court n the confidence he has makes u feel tat he is arrogant..after AE n SS 2007,i never saw confident on KKK face anymore when he plays..I really miss the old KKK..the confident KKK..therefore,I don think he is arrogant..he is confident to himself...:);)

CTF /LWW are stil top but they are not energised compare to KKK/TBH..however their experience is definately more than the youngsters..So,they still have chance to get into semi final if they dun meet players fr China,Indo o Denmark o KKK/TBB in early round..;)

All the best to Malaysian players!!;):)

george@chongwei
07-30-2007, 07:33 AM
Don't think KKK-TBH will make it + I don't like them (especially KKK and his arrogant attitude)

I confess that CTF-LWW are irregular but when they are on form, they can beat everybody + they'll have less pressure than other. I'll bet on them.

CW-TG will probably be on the blow too.
I dont think KKK is arrogant at all.:cool: he is serious at court but actually he is a very friendly person...the arrogant pair that i c is Feng Yun... :rolleyes:

tjl_vanguard
07-30-2007, 11:48 PM
wohohoho... ben95 is really on fire now.... "kena hentam teruk teruk"...

friendly advice to ben95: never say anything negative bout any players here... u'll be shot terribly... :D :D :D :D :D

samuel882
07-30-2007, 11:51 PM
Haha.. LOLZ... Hopes Ben95 is still alive..:D:D ;)

tjl_vanguard
07-30-2007, 11:53 PM
To me, being "arrogant" on court is one way to stay pumped up & focused for some players.:cool:

Frankly, I used to dislike Rexy when he was a player because his "arrogance" on court. I don't like Maria Sharapova because she doesn't smile at all on court & she's like on top of the world off court. We can't force everyone to be like Gao Ling, always smiling whether on-court or off-court.:)
ok... same idea as me... :D

nauyuchi
07-31-2007, 12:31 AM
wow shot terribly... that must be hard. a lesson to be learn btw. as i read all the comments, i thought this forum is about how arrogant KKK is. ohh no... i am being ridiculous here. sorry!
ohh yeah... to me KKK is not an arrogant person. met he once before. i think the arrogant attitude is shown when he is on court.
i am hoping.... really hoping that KKK and TBH could be in the finals. yeah!!
aza!! aza!! fighting!!

tjl_vanguard
08-01-2007, 01:58 AM
wow shot terribly... that must be hard. a lesson to be learn btw. as i read all the comments, i thought this forum is about how arrogant KKK is. ohh no... i am being ridiculous here. sorry!
ohh yeah... to me KKK is not an arrogant person. met he once before. i think the arrogant attitude is shown when he is on court.
i am hoping.... really hoping that KKK and TBH could be in the finals. yeah!!
aza!! aza!! fighting!!
i sense a target... still raw n fresh.. TO BE SHOT AT!! haha :D

staples
08-01-2007, 11:14 AM
I hope that it will be a KKK/TBH vs FENG YUN finals,but i doubt if that's gonna happen...i just got feeling that one of these pairs will fall before the finals & im hoping that it won't be KKK/TBH..many things can happen when the event starts....
for me the best bet will be FENG YUN based on form, don't get me wrong, i really want MAS players to win it (especially KKK/TBH & ZAKRY/FAIRUZIZUAN) they're for me the likeliest to do it for MAS and ofcoz CTF/LWW(on their days)..if i really have to put $ on it, i will still bet for KKK/TBH coz on their days, they r simply sensational/unbeatable.....cheerzz

It will be either one of those two pairs to win it. KKK/TBH or Cai/Fu

The only pair that can beat Cai/Fu at this moment are KKK/TBH. If the Malaysians crash out early then you might as well give the title to the Chinese.

Should these two pairs meet, it will be like 60-40 in favour of China.
Cai/Fu all the way! Still possible for Malaysia though. One thing for sure, Rexy has to be in their corner.

KlasseE
08-01-2007, 12:41 PM
why argue which pair is more arrogant???
just put your $$$ on the pair you think will win the title.
KKK/TBH
1. klasseE

KlasseE
08-01-2007, 12:50 PM
off topic here, does anyone mind to share the MSF match between LCW/XXZ in SO 2006?

OneToughBirdie
08-01-2007, 01:36 PM
why argue which pair is more arrogant???
just put your $$$ on the pair you think will win the title.
KKK/TBH
1. klasseE
How to collect $$$...FedEx???Email???PDF???;):rolleyes:

ben95
08-01-2007, 04:32 PM
I dont mind if you are referring his antics on court. Or are you reffering to his arrogance as a person?

:eek: So many reactions lol. I didn't think it would have as much of it there.
> ants, yes that's the point. For example : All england 2007 final. I am not a Fu&Cai fan, but in the rubber game at 19-18 for KKK-TBH, the way KKK celebrates after a lucky net shot is just hahhh... unbearable.

Not because of the shot itself, that's the game. He could have yelled or something like that, I have no problem with that but as you say, this is its antics. :mad:

For instance, a player who tightens his fist because he has won a long rally isn't arrongant in my eyes. But if he tightens his fist, while fixing his oppenent in the eyes with a little smile as if he would say to him : "I've fooled you well" ("fool" to be polished :rolleyes:). This is an arrongant player for me.

I don't want to argue with anybody. Cheer your favorite and that's all ;)

Edit: Honestly, I think you can be a shy person off the court and tough fighter on the court but I don't know how it is possible to be arrongant on the court and not off the court.. may be I'm wrong.

zqloy
08-01-2007, 08:24 PM
:eek: So many reactions lol. I didn't think it would have as much of it there.
> ants, yes that's the point. For example : All england 2007 final. I am not a Fu&Cai fan, but in the rubber game at 19-18 for KKK-TBH, the way KKK celebrates after a lucky net shot is just hahhh... unbearable.

Not because of the shot itself, that's the game. He could have yelled or something like that, I have no problem with that but as you say, this is its antics. :mad:



Lol.... its just a naughty lil jig he did, its sure looks more mischievous than arrogant to me. Anyway the perception is always subjective. To me, muscle shows (LD :D) and refuse to shake hands after match is consider as arrogant.

george@chongwei
08-01-2007, 11:04 PM
dont forget our vateran men doubles shuttlers of CTF/LWW... they are very well prepared to this WC2007.. i hope they will be not draw against any MAS pair enroute to the final... anyone has a comment of CTF/LWW?

nauyuchi
08-01-2007, 11:17 PM
is someone gonna shoot me cause the things i post?? ohh dear. deadlah sir... matilah sir...
still going for KKK/TBH. yeah!
fighting!!

george@chongwei
08-01-2007, 11:19 PM
dont worry .. nobody is gonna shoot u... except the thing u post is ###### bla bla bla.. haha

tjl_vanguard
08-02-2007, 02:27 AM
How to collect $$$...FedEx???Email???PDF???;):rolleyes:
dun use FedEX... cuz i think they will send the money to the chinese team hahahaha :D :D :D :D :D

koo_fan
08-02-2007, 04:01 AM
:eek: So many reactions lol. I didn't think it would have as much of it there.
> ants, yes that's the point. For example : All england 2007 final. I am not a Fu&Cai fan, but in the rubber game at 19-18 for KKK-TBH, the way KKK celebrates after a lucky net shot is just hahhh... unbearable.

Not because of the shot itself, that's the game. He could have yelled or something like that, I have no problem with that but as you say, this is its antics. :mad:

For instance, a player who tightens his fist because he has won a long rally isn't arrongant in my eyes. But if he tightens his fist, while fixing his oppenent in the eyes with a little smile as if he would say to him : "I've fooled you well" ("fool" to be polished :rolleyes:). This is an arrongant player for me.

I don't want to argue with anybody. Cheer your favorite and that's all ;)

Edit: Honestly, I think you can be a shy person off the court and tough fighter on the court but I don't know how it is possible to be arrongant on the court and not off the court.. may be I'm wrong.
U are absolutely wrong. I've never seen KKk to reveal his arrogance to reporters and fans. He is kkk and that is the most important thing.Try to accept him for what he is.

samuel882
08-02-2007, 05:12 AM
I fink many of us get KKK wrong... Coz he is young and excited both on & off the court ! Excited does nOT Equal to arrogant.. It happen with many young guns who enjoy the games & the sports !

KlasseE
08-02-2007, 05:32 AM
dun use FedEX... cuz i think they will send the money to the chinese team hahahaha :D :D :D :D :D
Let 2cents to pay the winner 2 cents via any courier service except FedEx with freight collect.....;););) and the winner :crying::crying::crying:

samuel882
08-02-2007, 09:07 AM
I was really shocked to understand that MTF/MZL was seeded 7th .. ahead of the KOREA pairs; Luluk/ALv.... !!
It might be the 1st time in WC history that a wild card entry is being seeded

samuel882
08-02-2007, 09:17 AM
Summary of the seeding reports : -
MAS got 4 pairs ..The Danes 3 pairs.. KOR 2.. INA 3.5 .. CHN & the rest = 1 each...

Where is GZD/XZB:confused::confused::rolleyes:

tommy_bun
08-02-2007, 09:23 AM
Im wondering why shen/he are not competing as their ranking is higher than xie/guo???china only send Fu/Cai and Xie/Guo

samuel882
08-02-2007, 09:29 AM
Im wondering why shen/he are not competing as their ranking is higher than xie/guo???china only send Fu/Cai and Xie/Guo
In terms of experince Guo/Xie will be the best bet over Shen/He...
And mayb CHN want HHB to concentrate in XD wich they have a greater chance :confused:

tommy_bun
08-02-2007, 09:35 AM
In terms of experince Guo/Xie will be the best bet over Shen/He...
And mayb CHN want HHB to concentrate in XD wich they have a greater chance :confused:

I think chn is allowed to send both Xie/guo and Shen/He,so why dont they give this young pair more experience to compete in this WC???

george@chongwei
08-03-2007, 12:32 AM
why this thread so silent??? i thought we have 4 mens doubles player are seeded... lets discuss whether they can archieve something in here..

Pemuda
08-05-2007, 01:55 AM
Here's my prediction:

Cai/Fu will win the WC MD
Our KKK/TBH ends at the semis

jasonmarc
08-05-2007, 02:32 AM
Here is my prediction for the MD.

CY/FHF to win .....just hope KKK/TBH to play in Final

jasonmarc
08-05-2007, 03:14 AM
Summary of the seeding reports : -
MAS got 4 pairs ..The Danes 3 pairs.. KOR 2.. INA 3.5 .. CHN & the rest = 1 each...

Where is GZD/XZB:confused::confused::rolleyes:

I think they wanted to concentrate in XD:p.....and CHN is so confident to win MD title...with CY/FHF:D..

samuel882
08-05-2007, 08:24 AM
I think they wanted to concentrate in XD:p.....and CHN is so confident to win MD title...with CY/FHF:D..

It is not wise to left too much high hopes on 1 single pairs.. Wat if FHY/CY failed in SF or even CHN?
By contrast. CHN have at least GL/ZB who looks so strong for the Gold compare with FHY/CF in MD

vching
08-05-2007, 09:10 AM
i hope all our players can make it as far as possible...

most of all, I will be cheering 2000miles away for malaysian players...

If i'm lucky, i could get the RTM stream to work...

TKG2609
08-05-2007, 09:28 AM
I still hope my country men can win, but a bit diffcult 2 beat Fu HF/Cai Yun or KKK/TBH .... so my prediction still Fu HF/Cai Yun or KKK/TBH will win this time

TKG2609
08-05-2007, 09:29 AM
maybe China will win all the titles or China 3 Mas 2 ... who knows ?

samuel882
08-05-2007, 09:31 AM
maybe China will win all the titles or China 3 Mas 2 ... who knows ?

That will b considered a marvelous achievements for MAS badminton :D

koo_fan
08-05-2007, 11:29 AM
maybe China will win all the titles or China 3 Mas 2 ... who knows ?
yeah who knows Mas-CHn 5-0 .this is all possibilities.u can say what u want to say i will say mine.

TKG2609
08-05-2007, 11:46 AM
hehehehe sure .... can win all the titles or lose all ....

jiayou
08-05-2007, 09:06 PM
how come in this World Championship 2007 Event Candra Wijaya & Tony Gunawan can play together ?
Because they are both not from the same country ?

I thought it would be similiar like Olympic or Sudirman Cup Events, represent country.

Did BWF change their rules ?

Someone give me any info plzz ^_^ cheers..

Inky2000
08-05-2007, 09:30 PM
how come in this World Championship 2007 Event Candra Wijaya & Tony Gunawan can play together ?
Because they are both not from the same country ?

I thought it would be similiar like Olympic or Sudirman Cup Events, represent country.


Unlike OG or team cups, there's no country-based rule for WC. However, if I'm not wrong, the half-a-pair thing will be counted toward individual country's quota. So it's subjected to both INA and USA badminton associations to endorse TG/CW's participation.

Han
08-05-2007, 09:43 PM
Unlike OG or team cups, there's no country-based rule for WC. However, if I'm not wrong, the half-a-pair thing will be counted toward individual country's quota. So it's subjected to both INA and USA badminton associations to endorse TG/CW's participation.

Good knowledge, didn't know about that rule.

tjl_vanguard
08-05-2007, 09:45 PM
hahaha... impossible Mas- Chn 5-0... chn womens are far too strong.. :D

tjl_vanguard
08-05-2007, 09:48 PM
from da draw.. seems like (obviously mas can have a all semi encounter) mas is sooo lucky.... still, i think tbs-osh will have a tough time...

george@chongwei
08-05-2007, 11:13 PM
wat about denmark pair? LP AND JR will vs FU and CAI in the 3rd round... JE and MLH their draw are seems to b comfortable... any comments?

samuel882
08-05-2007, 11:29 PM
Dens' LP & JR are not likely to stop the mighty Feng Yun .. JE/MLH journeys will be ended in the QF either by TG/CW or the Korean Pair

tjl_vanguard
08-06-2007, 12:17 AM
i doubt the den pair can anything much... sad to say..

TKG2609
08-06-2007, 01:00 AM
this time the title is belong to china/mas pair ....so sad 4 my country ...

X Ball
08-06-2007, 01:17 AM
this time the title is belong to china/mas pair ....so sad 4 my country ...

Rexy is trying to get 4 pairs into the semis as reported. It just dawned on me that means an all-malaysian final, if he gets it right.:D

samuel882
08-06-2007, 01:20 AM
this time the title is belong to china/mas pair ....so sad 4 my country ...
y U GIVE UP SO FAST ??:rolleyes:

ctjcad
08-06-2007, 01:36 AM
Unlike OG or team cups, there's no country-based rule for WC. However, if I'm not wrong, the half-a-pair thing will be counted toward individual country's quota. So it's subjected to both INA and USA badminton associations to endorse TG/CW's participation.
..the ruling on that can be extracted/viewed from this link:
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/WCH/Members_eligible_players%20WCH2007.doc

Players in a pair representing two different Member Associations

3.2.9 In the event that players from two different Member Associations compete together as a pair, each player will be counted as ½ an entry for the respective Member Association in that event.

If interested, more on the WC's regulation here:
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/PDF%20-%20Regulations/220%20WORLD%20CHAMPIONSHIPS%20REGULATIONS.pdf

tjl_vanguard
08-06-2007, 03:42 AM
this time the title is belong to china/mas pair ....so sad 4 my country ...
still got hope on tony/candra... :D

but they are gonna meet kkk/tbh den i would say MAS WIN!!! sorry for dat!! :D

gidong
08-06-2007, 04:10 AM
this time the title is belong to china/mas pair ....so sad 4 my country ...

:D AS YOU WISH .. amen :p

koo_fan
08-06-2007, 04:24 AM
hahaha... impossible Mas- Chn 5-0... chn womens are far too strong.. :D
As i said, it is just possibilities.MAS-CHN 5-0 .who knows? it difficult but who knows?

robin7
08-06-2007, 04:51 AM
As i said, it is just possibilities.MAS-CHN 5-0 .who knows? it difficult but who knows?
Be realistic! 1 out 5 is considered creating history & 2 out 5 is gr8 achievement. Frankly, I can only see medal hopes on MS & MD.

koo_fan
08-07-2007, 04:45 AM
Be realistic! 1 out 5 is considered creating history & 2 out 5 is gr8 achievement. Frankly, I can only see medal hopes on MS & MD.
Thats ur opinion and i will accept it.

Well im not hoping for our players to have that glory winning.Im hoping 4 the best for them and it is just that.

Just to be a little bit arrogant to TKG.. when he say that we'll gonna lose to CHN 3-2

robin7
08-07-2007, 04:55 AM
I thought TKG simply meant CHN 3 golds & MAS 2 golds? Frankly, there is no way MAS can overtake CHN in medal tally & everyone is aware of it. But I hope that INA can steal the WD & XD titles from CHN, leaving CHN going home with the only title, WS.:D

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 12:22 AM
My kkk-Tbh will beat them.just see and wait.

the thread is to make predictions, not to tell what you think about other's predictions.

just a little respect man.

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 01:13 AM
Lol.... its just a naughty lil jig he did, its sure looks more mischievous than arrogant to me. Anyway the perception is always subjective. To me, muscle shows (LD :D) and refuse to shake hands after match is consider as arrogant.

moral of the story is you can say anything about any player in BC except malaysians.

Pemuda
08-08-2007, 03:08 AM
the thread is to make predictions, not to tell what you think about other's predictions.

just a little respect man.

I fully agree.

Very common here for some who likes to 'tell' others off if they find the opinions not to their liking.

koo_fan
08-08-2007, 05:02 AM
the thread is to make predictions, not to tell what you think about other's predictions.

just a little respect man.
Well.. do u have any problem with that?

I dont agree with their opinion and dont u think i have the right to voice out my opinions??

So,my conclusion.

Dont u ever that sarcastic statement ever again.Never..

samuel882
08-08-2007, 05:08 AM
WEll. Koo Fan does have the rights to voice his supports over his famous players here... It will be too over for us to said she is disrespectful. Please read all those post during the "Live Matches".. Those kinda "Beat Them ALL"; "Kill Them ALL" statements can be found quite frequently & repeatedly...

vching
08-08-2007, 05:48 AM
WEll. Koo Fan does have the rights to voice his supports over his famous players here... It will be too over for us to said she is disrespectful. Please read all those post during the "Live Matches".. Those kinda "Beat Them ALL"; "Kill Them ALL" statements can be found quite frequently & repeatedly...


some of us even curse our 'enemies' to be 'destroyed' :D

X Ball
08-08-2007, 07:21 AM
moral of the story is you can say anything about any player in BC except malaysians.

No you stand to be corrected on this one : you can't say anything bad about anyone in BC, not just Malaysians !:D

KlasseE
08-08-2007, 10:19 AM
the thread is to make predictions, not to tell what you think about other's predictions.

just a little respect man.
there is nothing wrong with koo_fan
you may say anything you want but pls don't ask someone not to do this or that......like old grandmother

tommy_bun
08-08-2007, 10:33 AM
WEll. Koo Fan does have the rights to voice his supports over his famous players here... It will be too over for us to said she is disrespectful. Please read all those post during the "Live Matches".. Those kinda "Beat Them ALL"; "Kill Them ALL" statements can be found quite frequently & repeatedly...
sometimes koo fan's statements are over too,last time u said Im over biased china fan,Sometimes her posts show that she is also but you didnt say anything bout that

samuel882
08-08-2007, 10:43 AM
sometimes koo fan's statements are over too,last time u said Im over biased china fan,Sometimes her posts show that she is also but you didnt say anything bout that

U cant compare ur strongly one sided post previously with wat Koo Fan mention here.. Looks at the sentense : "KKK/TBH will beat them ; just wait & see". Does it meants a truth biased..?? She just abit over confidence... To say it was biased?? :rolleyes::rolleyes: Dont Fink so...;)

tommy_bun
08-08-2007, 10:48 AM
U cant compare ur strongly one sided post previously with wat Koo Fan mention here.. Looks at the sentense : "KKK/TBH will beat them ; just wait & see". Does it meants a truth biased..?? She just abit over confidence... To say it was biased?? :rolleyes::rolleyes: Dont Fink so...;)

I mean not this post,but some of her other posts.Reand my post carefully and get what I mean OK

KlasseE
08-08-2007, 10:56 AM
U cant compare ur strongly one sided post previously with wat Koo Fan mention here.. Looks at the sentense : "KKK/TBH will beat them ; just wait & see". Does it meants a truth biased..?? She just abit over confidence... To say it was biased?? :rolleyes::rolleyes: Dont Fink so...;)
SUPPORT
koo_fan just supported her idol

samuel882
08-08-2007, 10:58 AM
Tommy , I dont see any "others" word in ur post no. #337 here. Please refer to this page start from Post no. #329 ..
We are debating on only post no. #124 by Koo Fan
We are Not focusing on others comment by her,if u want to hit back at her others' post . this is the wrong pages !

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 06:34 PM
Well.. do u have any problem with that?

I dont agree with their opinion and dont u think i have the right to voice out my opinions??

So,my conclusion.

Dont u ever that sarcastic statement ever again.Never..

then i am right, this isn't a predictions thread, this is giving comments on other'e predictions.

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 06:37 PM
WEll. Koo Fan does have the rights to voice his supports over his famous players here... It will be too over for us to said she is disrespectful. Please read all those post during the "Live Matches".. Those kinda "Beat Them ALL"; "Kill Them ALL" statements can be found quite frequently & repeatedly...

yes you can do that. but not quoting what others say. i am not asking espect for any player, but a little respect for the guy who posted his predictions.

samuel882
08-08-2007, 06:51 PM
then i am right, this isn't a predictions thread, this is giving comments on other'e predictions.

Are u misread the title of this thread : "Who will be Men's Double Champion?"..
Its a obviously question and every one are FREE to make predictions here.

koo_fan
08-08-2007, 08:41 PM
Whoever got offended with my posts,Im really sorry.My apology to all of u.

But i think im not being too harsh with my words and i do really think i am.
What's wrong with u guys??
Lets stop here,everyone.
To Samuel..,klasse,thanks for ur opinions.It makes me feel so much better.

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 08:42 PM
Are u misread the title of this thread : "Who will be Men's Double Champion?"..
Its a obviously question and every one are FREE to make predictions here.

saying KKK/TBH will be champion is different from quoting others and saying KKK/TBH will be champions.

Hey, don't get me wrong, I have nothing against malaysians or malaysian players, i like KKK/TBH and LCW the same way i like TH, LD and PG.
i am not into nationality when choosing my favorite player. all i am saying is for us to be aware of the feelings of others if our intention is to make this forum grow :)

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 08:45 PM
Whoever got offended with my posts,Im really sorry.My apology to all of u.

But i think im not being too harsh with my words and i do really think i am.
What's wrong with u guys??
Lets stop here,everyone.
To Samuel..,klasse,thanks for ur opinions.It makes me feel so much better.

my apologies ma'am if my words did felt sarcastic to you :)

koo_fan
08-08-2007, 08:49 PM
Im just 17 and im not ma'am.

samuel882
08-08-2007, 08:56 PM
That's why i keeps on protecting Koo-fan..
she is still naive..
Dont hurt a teen gals ok;)

n|mr0d
08-08-2007, 08:59 PM
my apologies again.

in the philippines calling a girl ma'am does not mean your old, it's a sign of respect

koo_fan
08-08-2007, 09:26 PM
Thanks 4 the respect brothers.
But ...im naive?? not that naive ok.

Felicia_txh
08-09-2007, 01:16 AM
Well..Zakry/Fairuz will meet Yong Dae/Jang Sung in QF..If they defeat Yong Dae/Jang Sung,they might meet their seniors-KKK/TBH..:(

CLELY
08-09-2007, 02:16 AM
The faves are absolutely Cai/Fu and KKK/TBH even Park Joo Bong (1985 & 1991 WChamp) also predict them. The strong threats seem coming from Lee Young Dae/Jung Jae Sung,Tony/Candra and don't forget the Europe pairs (DEN & ENG).

tjl_vanguard
08-09-2007, 02:56 AM
Are u misread the title of this thread : "Who will be Men's Double Champion?"..
Its a obviously question and every one are FREE to make predictions here.
yes.. and i created the thread.. u clever boy haha :D

tjl_vanguard
08-09-2007, 03:05 AM
The faves are absolutely Cai/Fu and KKK/TBH even Park Joo Bong (1985 & 1991 WChamp) also predict them. The strong threats seem coming from Lee Young Dae/Jung Jae Sung,Tony/Candra and don't forget the Europe pairs (DEN & ENG).
eh,.... dun forget our own mas pairs ok....

koo_fan
08-09-2007, 04:19 AM
Well..Zakry/Fairuz will meet Yong Dae/Jang Sung in QF..If they defeat Yong Dae/Jang Sung,they might meet their seniors-KKK/TBH..:(
it will only happen in SF. relax, at this stage,whoever win,i will give my supports.Malaysian will be in finals.thats for sure.

Believe in KKK-TBH and Zakry-Fairuz .I know they will create havoc in the stadium.whoever wins,it is malaysians.

tommy_bun
08-09-2007, 09:45 AM
Tommy , I dont see any "others" word in ur post no. #337 here. Please refer to this page start from Post no. #329 ..
We are debating on only post no. #124 by Koo Fan
We are Not focusing on others comment by her,if u want to hit back at her others' post . this is the wrong pages !

If you find her posts are too over,I dont think you will say the thing you said to me.However I think we should stop at here,but pls be fair next time before saying something.
for koo_fan,Im sorry either,im not trying to have any problem with you.
For samuel and his friend,I say thanx as well,Now I can pay more attention on my comments before posting.

george@chongwei
08-09-2007, 09:52 AM
ok ok ok... WC is an event that all player from around the world will participate.. so we cannot say that which pair will win and which pair will lose.... they will prepare own their own strategies to win.... so win or lose is up to they all, we are here juz to cheer our favourite men double player... so we must not too emotional when posting

samuel882
08-09-2007, 10:09 AM
If you find her posts are too over,I dont think you will say the thing you said to me.However I think we should stop at here,but pls be fair next time before saying something.
for koo_fan,Im sorry either,im not trying to have any problem with you.
For samuel and his friend,I say thanx as well,Now I can pay more attention on my comments before posting.

i am not looking for any enemies here either:) .. Peace ... My Frans..Lets have a handshake ;)

samuel882
08-09-2007, 10:17 AM
If you find her posts are too over,I dont think you will say the thing you said to me.However I think we should stop at here,but pls be fair next time before saying something.
for koo_fan,Im sorry either,im not trying to have any problem with you.
For samuel and his friend,I say thanx as well,Now I can pay more attention on my comments before posting.

i am not looking for any enemies here either:) .. Peace ... My Frans..Lets have a handshake ;)

tommy_bun
08-09-2007, 10:27 AM
i am not looking for any enemies here either:) .. Peace ... My Frans..Lets have a handshake ;)

Peace....hope things will be better then

tommy_bun
08-09-2007, 10:32 AM
i am not looking for any enemies here either:) .. Peace ... My Frans..Lets have a handshake ;)

Peace....hope things will be better then

koo_fan
08-09-2007, 11:28 AM
It is much better this way:):)

fastdrop
08-09-2007, 12:18 PM
Badminton is not only a physical game, it also involve psychological strategies. Apparently, when a player appears to be arrogant during a match, the intention is to annoy the opponent in order to lose the focus. Most of the members of BC are players and we all know that making our opponents angry help us win the game.
It's hard to tell if a player is arrogant or not, snub or accommodating. Like anyone else they also have mood swings. The only difference is that they are not allowed to show their temper because they are in the limelight. The fans and supporters sometimes expect too much.

robin7
08-10-2007, 08:55 PM
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OneToughBirdie
08-10-2007, 09:02 PM
Robin7, the tournament has not even begin...why don't you proclaim KKK/TBH new MD WC after they won it...control your excitement and emotion, you may be setting yourself to ticking a big foot in your mouth if they lost...;)

Han
08-10-2007, 09:10 PM
Robin7, the tournament has not even begin...why don't you proclaim KKK/TBH new MD WC after they won it...control your excitement and emotion, you may be setting yourself to ticking a big foot in your mouth if they lost...;)

Yes, I am a little concern too about raising the expectation so high. Also scary to find out Rexy think all of your pairs are really that good and all Malaysian Semi Final is possible. Boy, imagine if none of our pair advance into SF, head will roll ...

samuel882
08-10-2007, 09:29 PM
I seriously think there is almost impossible for REXY quotes on 4 MD pairs making it into SF ! No doubt he is trying to motivate his protege for a best results ever, but it will create more higher expectations from the fans..!!
MS are just like MD match nowadays, it could be in any body's hand favor depends on the form on the match day

robin7
08-10-2007, 09:33 PM
I seriously think there is almost impossible for REXY quotes on 4 MD pairs making it into SF ! No doubt he is trying to motivate his protege for a best results ever, but it will create more higher expectations from the fans..!!
MS are just like MD match nowadays, it could be in any body's hand favor depends on the form on the match day
Rexy doesn't predict but only wishes...:cool:

samuel882
08-10-2007, 09:38 PM
Rexy doesn't predict but only wishes...:cool:

If that was the case, the chances of KK/BH to lift the crown there will be very slim. Their past records against owns counterparts was far from impressive..

badMania
08-10-2007, 09:40 PM
The higher the expectations, the bigger will be the disappointments if these expectations are not met.

kimpe_bultang
08-10-2007, 09:49 PM
May the best pair wins.. :D :D

mAlAn
08-10-2007, 10:27 PM
Let the battle begin,.,. :)

OneToughBirdie
08-11-2007, 12:00 AM
The higher the expectations, the bigger will be the disappointments if these expectations are not met.
You said it right, that is my concern all along...fans should play it cool, not cocky, just like their idol LCW who is humble and not outspoken....and fans should not start counting the chicken even before the papa chick meets up with mama chick (forget about the hatching part)....and scream/shout out loud at the stadium where it counts...hahaha!!! LOL!!:p:p:D:D

george@chongwei
08-11-2007, 12:02 AM
You said it right, that is my concern all along...fans should play it cool, not cocky, just like their idol LCW who is humble and not outspoken....and fans should not start counting the chicken even before the papa chick meets up with mama chick (forget about the hatching part)....and scream/shout out loud at the stadium where it counts...hahaha!!! LOL!!:p:p:D:D
and we must sCREAM as loud as we can:)

ants
08-11-2007, 12:04 AM
Yes, I am a little concern too about raising the expectation so high. Also scary to find out Rexy think all of your pairs are really that good and all Malaysian Semi Final is possible. Boy, imagine if none of our pair advance into SF, head will roll ...

That will be a nightmare.

george@chongwei
08-11-2007, 12:08 AM
becoz the pressure is on MALAYSIA side... if the players cant get points, they will desperately and pressured too much..
so let us not give them too high expectation, i hope KKK/TBH will be the champion of the world... i will defitnely cheer for them and the MAS players who are in action...
MALAYSIA BOLEH!!!

ants
08-11-2007, 12:09 AM
They are not pressured at all.

george@chongwei
08-11-2007, 12:12 AM
it is hard to say they under pressure or not becoz they play the game, not us... and maybe REXY had given some instruction to them to calm down during games..

OneToughBirdie
08-11-2007, 12:14 AM
That will be a nightmare.
Then the way fans demonstrate their so-called full support for MAS with comments like "kick CHN butt, so-and-so will win, new crown WC MS and MD player, etc." would help the players and is an expression of confidence on the fans part, then for that I do not understand, as I can see if MAS players fail to deliver these expectations, then MAS fans are gonna be deflated and like you say, a nightmare. If fans are really fanatic, bring all your lung power to the stadium, cheer, scream like hell to support your players and torment the opponents...that would really help.;)

ants
08-11-2007, 12:15 AM
Yeah.. i'm going to anticipate a REAL NOISY STADIUM!

george@chongwei
08-11-2007, 12:18 AM
if not enough loud, remember to cheer using microphone:D untill the whole stadium earthquake......

OneToughBirdie
08-11-2007, 12:23 AM
Yeah.. i'm going to anticipate a REAL NOISY STADIUM!
Then I can tell you, I only wish I could make this flight to savour the moment of pure energy and excitement in the stadium,...I had planned this trip for 2 years, being a MAS boy myself to see the games and visit my mom, etc, only to cancel at the last moment due to conflict with schedules...as the games get closer and I am in my office, checking on livescoring, that would eat me up.....darn you guys are so lucky.

ctjcad
08-11-2007, 12:51 AM
Yeah.. i'm going to anticipate a REAL NOISY STADIUM!
:D..i can imagine what will all the M'sian players' opponents be hearing...a less than a REAL NOISY Stadium will be U-N-A-C-C-E-P-T-A-B-L-E!!..:p;):cool:

if not enough loud, remember to cheer using microphone:D untill the whole stadium earthquake......
:eek:...earthquake??..:p:rolleyes::crying:..

robin7
08-11-2007, 12:53 AM
Robin7, the tournament has not even begin...why don't you proclaim KKK/TBH new MD WC after they won it...control your excitement and emotion, you may be setting yourself to ticking a big foot in your mouth if they lost...;)

They are not pressured at all.
Okok... I'm over-excited & a bit out of control!:p I hope they know how to handle pressure!:cool:

I apologise if what I said sounds arrogant & humiliating to some of the Malaysians. For the time being, I'll just keep my mouth shut till the WC starts.

samuel882
08-11-2007, 12:59 AM
:D..i can imagine what will all the M'sian players' opponents be hearing...a less than a REAL NOISY Stadium will be U-N-A-C-C-E-P-T-A-B-L-E!!..:p;):cool:

:eek:...earthquake??..:p:rolleyes::crying:..
Yo! Chris.. Which part of the earth u in now?? BTW.. prepare more waters to freshen ur throat & SHOUT TO D MAX in the stadium ya :D:D

taufik-ist
08-11-2007, 01:12 AM
Yo! Chris.. Which part of the earth u in now?? BTW.. prepare more waters to freshen ur throat & SHOUT TO D MAX in the stadium ya :D:D

Pasukan Bomba will be there to water you all :D :D :p

ctjcad
08-11-2007, 02:29 AM
Yo! Chris.. Which part of the earth u in now?? BTW.. prepare more waters to freshen ur throat & SHOUT TO D MAX in the stadium ya :D:D
:)...abt 1300km southeast from KL, somewhere very close to Bali..:p;)..I'll leave the cheering, yelling & hooting to all of you young folks..I will probably be too excited when watching the matches...And doing those will definitely leave me exhausted..hehe:D:p;)

peterchong
08-11-2007, 03:24 AM
i think for men double champions is CAI YUN/FU HAI FENG of china will more chance....

koo_fan
08-11-2007, 07:38 AM
Okok... I'm over-excited & a bit out of control!:p I hope they know how to handle pressure!:cool:

I apologise if what I said sounds arrogant & humiliating to some of the Malaysians. For the time being, I'll just keep my mouth shut till the WC starts.
U dont have to apology,Robin.
Malaysians are very confidence with their players and theres nothing wrong with that.We do not create troubles for anybody.
Im sorry for not defending ur posts when they give the critises.

samuel882
08-11-2007, 10:42 AM
Just watching the repeat of MD SF in SO07 .. CW/TG plays a great match against FHY.CY. they are simply amazing ! Some of Tony nets shot toying the Chinese around the court, their understanding within each others was excellent.. Covering from the front to the back of the courts..
They are the more experience pair compare with any others Seeds in this WC. They have been winning OG. WC(in a separate partnership). They are superb especially in the big events

GunBlade008
08-11-2007, 06:03 PM
Just watching the repeat of MD SF in SO07 .. CW/TG plays a great match against FHY.CY. they are simply amazing ! Some of Tony nets shot toying the Chinese around the court, their understanding within each others was excellent.. Covering from the front to the back of the courts..
They are the more experience pair compare with any others Seeds in this WC. They have been winning OG. WC(in a separate partnership). They are superb especially in the big events

But their prime is long past, CY/FHF and KKK/TBH are the top two pairs to watch out for in this year's WC.

badMania
08-12-2007, 01:11 AM
Come on Kido/Hendra !!!

nauyuchi
08-12-2007, 08:36 PM
wow... i kept laughing reading all the comments. can't imagine, bringing in a microphone. i am having a sore throat now. don't know what happen this saturday. hope it will get better.

robin7
08-13-2007, 04:13 AM
U dont have to apology,Robin.
Malaysians are very confidence with their players and theres nothing wrong with that.We do not create troubles for anybody.
Im sorry for not defending ur posts when they give the critises.
Thanks, koo_fan. In fact, I didn't have to apologise but I did it just to shut some hypocrites' mouths here.

kimpe_bultang
08-13-2007, 05:36 AM
Just watching the repeat of MD SF in SO07 .. CW/TG plays a great match against FHY.CY. they are simply amazing ! Some of Tony nets shot toying the Chinese around the court, their understanding within each others was excellent.. Covering from the front to the back of the courts..
They are the more experience pair compare with any others Seeds in this WC. They have been winning OG. WC(in a separate partnership). They are superb especially in the big events

Yeah, their power don't really sting now... While KKK/TBH and FHF/CY still got a lot of power... CW/TG can only rely on strategy and tricks, and maybe some stinging shots..

Krisna
08-13-2007, 11:57 AM
Yeah, their power don't really sting now... While KKK/TBH and FHF/CY still got a lot of power... CW/TG can only rely on strategy and tricks, and maybe some stinging shots..

Age age age..... time has caught up with them... :o

samuel882
08-13-2007, 04:24 PM
Yeah, their power don't really sting now... While KKK/TBH and FHF/CY still got a lot of power... CW/TG can only rely on strategy and tricks, and maybe some stinging shots..
They might be not as fast & powerful as the CHN & MAS hot sensation. But in doubles, experince does matter as in the understanding among each others will be the main keys to success.
I wouldn't be surprise if they make it into the finals.;)

ixory
08-13-2007, 06:40 PM
Christian puts his money on the youngsters
thestar online (http://www.thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2007/8/14/sports/18581394&sec=sports)

INDONESIA’s chief coach Christian Hadinata sees the current scoring system favouring the younger pairs.
Among the veterans who are probably taking a last shot at winning the world title are Danes Jens Eriksen-Martin Lundgaard Hansen and Jonas Rasmussen-Lars Paaske, the American-Indonesian combination of Tony Gunawan-Candra Wijaya and Malaysians Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah.
“A point can now be gained on not holding service and the doubles game is all about speed and power. The younger pairs have the better chance to win,” said Christian.
He picked the top two seeds – China’s Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun and Malaysia’s Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong – as his favourites for the title.
“Both pairs have been the outstanding performers in the Super Series thus far. The older pairs can still fight but the question is whether they can cope with the pace and power,” he added.
Kien Keat-Boon Heong were outstanding in the early part of the year and the Chinese have stepped into the limelight over the last three months. The Malaysians won the Open titles of Malaysia, England and Switzerland while the Chinese emerged as champions in the Singapore and Indonesian Opens and the China Masters.
Christian hopes that the Indonesian top pair of Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan can make a strong charge for the title.
“If they can be consistent from the start, I think our pair have a chance,” said Christian, who has two world titles to his name – in 1980 with Ade Chandra in the men’s doubles and with Imelda Wigoeno in the mixed doubles.
On what he hoped to achieve with the Indonesian team this time, Christian said that it would be great if they could repeat their performance in Anaheim two years ago.
Then, Taufik Hidayat emerged as the men’s singles champion and Lilyana Natsir-Nova Widianto took the mixed doubles title. Indonesia finished empty-handed in last year’s championships in Madrid. In this edition, Indonesia can also bank on their women’s doubles pair of Greysia Polli-Jo Novita to rise to the occasion.

Inky2000
08-19-2007, 05:25 AM
Calculated coming Thursday's new MD world rankings ...

1(-) CY/FHF
2(-) KKK/TBH (the difference betwen the WR points of the top-2 pairs is only 460)
3(-) MK/HS
4(+1) CW/TG
5(+1) CTF/LWW
6(-2) JE/MLH
7(+3) LJJ/HJM
8(+5) JJS/LYD (If JJS/LYD won the world title, they will be No.7 instead.)
9(-2) Luluk/Alvent
10(+3) Hendra/Joko
11(-) Njoto/Wiratama
12(+5) Ohtsuka/Masuda
13(+1) OSH/TBS
14(+4) Logosz/Mateusiak
15(-5) LP/JR
16(+3) Simon/Anders
17(-9) Clark/Blair
18(-2) Sukmawan/Hian
19(+1) CCM/HTH
20(+3) Durkin/Nikolaenko

The rest ... selected ...
21(-) Saputra/Wijaya
25(+8) Zakry/Fairuzizuan
26(+10) GZD/XZB
32(-) SY/HHB

chemile
08-19-2007, 05:47 AM
MK/HS is the winner!!! CONGRAT to them. They did the job well.....

badMania
08-19-2007, 07:27 AM
Come on Kido/Hendra !!!

This was posted by myself on the 12th August, exactly last week!

So, my favorite pair Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan has defied all odds and become the World Champion today! I just sent my congratulatory SMSes to both of them :D The World Championship is indeed a very nice birthday present to Republik Indonesia (celebrating our 62th Birthday just 2 days ago) and to both of themselves (born in August, with Hendra still yet to celebrate his birthday).

NOBODY in this forum gives them a chance, the majority of which are already crowning Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong or Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun EVEN BEFORE the matches start. Admittedly, I only have a slim hope that they will win this week...and they have realized this dream! It is all the more sweeter since the next World Championships will only be held in 2009.

In 2005, when they just started to progress up the rankings table, I already think that they WILL BE a World Champion....just not this soon :D

I hope that the extraordinary victory today will spur them to win an All-England title, Asian Games title (in 2010) and eventually an Olympics Gold medal either next year or in 2012 (they will only be 28 by then).

Krisna
08-19-2007, 08:08 AM
Congratulations to Lili-Nova and Kido-Hendra... I was watching the game with 7 other friends next to our badminton court. We were so so happy! Badminton can bring so much joy!

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IN-DO-NE-SIA!
Not as good as Superpower-China yet, but we're getting to be a viable 2nd powerhouse! :D

ben95
08-19-2007, 08:12 AM
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NOBODY in this forum gives them a chance, the majority of which are already crowning Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong or Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun EVEN BEFORE the matches start. [...]

But i think it's normal. Their results this year are not such marvelous.
They have been a level below KKK/TBH, TG/CW and of course CY/FH.
This week they manage to raise up their standard. Congrats to them.

Inky2000
08-19-2007, 08:56 AM
But i think it's normal. Their results this year are not such marvelous.
They have been a level below KKK/TBH, TG/CW and of course CY/FH.
This week they manage to raise up their standard. Congrats to them.

Back in 2003, DEN pair LP/JR started off as good but not great pair and therefore was out of radar in our pre-WC prediction. They went on the win the title but look at what has been happening to them since then - still not so impressive. Whether MK/HS is going to be the next CY/FHF or LP/JR, we will see ...

badMania
08-19-2007, 12:31 PM
1(-) CY/FHF
2(-) KKK/TBH (the difference betwen the WR points of the top-2 pairs is only 460)
3(-) MK/HS
4(+1) CW/TG
5(+1) CTF/LWW
6(-2) JE/MLH
7(+3) LJJ/HJM
8(+5) JJS/LYD (If JJS/LYD won the world title, they will be No.7 instead.)
9(-2) Luluk/Alvent
10(+3) Hendra/Joko


I think KKK/TBH will certainly be the World No 1 once the points for HK Open 2006 are eliminated in two weeks time :cool:

Meanwhile, it will still take quite a while for Kido/Hendra to topple either KKK/TBH or Fu/Cai. One or two more titles in the Super Series this year should consolidate their position as the top INA pair for the Olympics. Luluk/Alvent is a spent force and they can only last maximum till next year's Olympics (if they can qualify).

I am more concerned of AG/Joko's upcoming performance in the Super Series and GP Gold events. They still have yet to win a single GP title or reach the Semi-Finals of a SS event :cool: Consistency and a breakthrough in performance is needed of them.

Bona/Ahsan, currently ranked at 40, could prove to be the next Kido/Hendra. They just won their first Satellite title in Vietnam recently. They should make it to the top 25 if they are sent to the remaining GP gold events this year :cool:

armortecfans
08-19-2007, 04:00 PM
I am proud of you, Hendra and Kido !
Congratulations!!!
So happy that they win this tournament.
Almost noone predicted that they will win, everyone was just put the hope on KKK/TBH or Cai/Fu. Well, I thought that is really reasonable, since Kido and Hendra haven't shown their best performance ever in the first half of this year. Only runner-up in China Masters.
But they proved now that they are one of the best pairs.
Hopefully they can win more and more.
Anyone has photos of them from WC 2007?

Pemuda
08-19-2007, 08:50 PM
I am proud of you, Hendra and Kido !
Congratulations!!!
So happy that they win this tournament.
Almost noone predicted that they will win, everyone was just put the hope on KKK/TBH or Cai/Fu. Well, I thought that is really reasonable, since Kido and Hendra haven't shown their best performance ever in the first half of this year. Only runner-up in China Masters.
But they proved now that they are one of the best pairs.
Hopefully they can win more and more.
Anyone has photos of them from WC 2007?

I am proud of KKK/TBH for they won the Philippine Open. :p Hopefully, they can next win the Kedah Open or Nepal Open as well.

Malaysia Boleh.

taufik-ist
08-19-2007, 09:51 PM
I am proud of KKK/TBH for they won the Philippine Open. :p Hopefully, they can next win the Kedah Open or Nepal Open as well.

Malaysia Boleh.

don't forget jakarta satellite chalenger :p

badMania
08-19-2007, 10:01 PM
don't forget jakarta satellite chalenger :p

There's no more Jakarta Satellite, only the Gudang Garam Surabaya Challenger to be held next week :p

Krisna
08-19-2007, 10:59 PM
don't forget jakarta satellite chalenger :p


There's no more Jakarta Satellite, only the Gudang Garam Surabaya Challenger to be held next week :p

Yeah, BWF insisted that there should only be one BWF-sanctioned tournament that produces World Ranking points other than the Indonesian Open Superseries in Indonesia. So, Jakarta & Surabaya competed for that one slot... and Surabaya won after offering $20,000 in prize money. The tournament is categorized as a "4a" tournament - International Challenge. ;)

KKK-TBH won't compete in Surabaya next week. They probably will go for Japan Superseries and Chinese Taipei Open Gold GP. ...maybe Indian Open Gold GP too, but I don't think so.