Aviva Open Singapore 2007 [Archive] - Badminton Central Discussion Forums

Loh

03-22-2007, 11:35 PM

This popular annual event is hotting up! Early Bird season tickets at ridiculously cheap prices have been snapped up. So popular is this game in Singapore that corporations are enticed into becoming sponsors to advertise their brand names and to reward good clients to attend and watch top players in action with good food and booze as accompaniment. With the economy in excellent health, it is expected that corporations will sign up in droves!

Preparations on all fronts are actively underway. The relevant websites are all in place waiting for the big day in early May! But in between, one should expect a series of publicity events to lure those still sitting on the fence.

The players will be housed in the luxurious Pan Pacific Hotel located in Suntec City, close to the SIS (Singapore Indoor Stadium) venue, Kallang, where this tournament will take place.

And this Singapore leg of the BWF Super Series will be the first to count for ranking points for the Beijing Olympics 2008. It will be another big occasion for all badminton loving fans in Singapore. The turnout is expected to beat last year's record.

All foreign friends are most welcome to our Lion City and meet our unique mermaid, our very own MerLion and of course the other many attractions we have in tiny Singapore. Don't miss our great variety of delicious foods as well. :) .

The schedule for the competition is as follows:

Tournament Schedule Information (tentative)

Round(s)
Date
Match Times (Start)
Gate Opening Times

Qualifying Tuesday, 1st May 2007
9.00 am
8.00 am

Preliminary Wednesday, 2nd May 2007
9.00 am
8.00 am

Preliminary Thursday, 3rd May 2007
9.00 am
8.00 am

Quarterfinals Friday, 4th May 2007
3.00 pm
2.00 pm

Semifinals Saturday, 5th May 2007
2.00 pm
1.00 pm

Finals Sunday, 6th May 2007
1.00 pm
12.00 pm

Hope to see as many of you at the venue! :D

kyiyu

03-22-2007, 11:57 PM

Hi Loh,

Nice to hear from you again for our Open. Like last year, I will meet up with you during the tournement. I learnt form other thread about good news is our BC celebrities "ANTS" & "YANNIE" would like to visit here. And understand in the same thread also that some of Singapore BC memebers like to meet up each others and enjoy the games. What is your plan such as "Friendly games & meeting" for the foreign and local friends.

By the way, are you still contactable through the mobile that you gave me last year? Mine is still the same. See you soon.

ctjcad

03-28-2007, 02:58 AM

Loh

03-28-2007, 09:21 PM

...ie. reviews, pics(take lots of 'em), memorable & extraordinary moments etc.http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif..Sorry, can't be there to join you guys:p , but hope to see you guys in M'sia for the WC..;):D :cool:

We'll sure miss you but hope to see you during the WC in KL. :)

I'm sure we now have more BC members here (such as Storkbill and more recently Sealman) who will take loads of pics and have them posted in the Forum.

jermaine

04-02-2007, 03:59 AM

will lin dan be coming???:confused::crying:

ants

04-04-2007, 10:46 AM

Kyiyu, m not that a celeb. Just a normal fans like u guys. Anyway i will be in Spore from 1st - 8th of May. :) Hope to see you guys there.

X Ball

04-05-2007, 05:42 AM

Kyiyu, m not that a celeb. Just a normal fans like u guys. Anyway i will be in Spore from 1st - 8th of May. :) Hope to see you guys there.

Ants, are you an official of BAM ?

Dreamzz

04-05-2007, 06:41 AM

Ants, are you an official of BAM ?

he's a BIG fan.

ants

04-05-2007, 11:02 AM

Yeah i'm just a badminton fan :P

Dreamzz

04-05-2007, 11:32 AM

hahaha, not quite secret agent man .... perhaps secret agent fan would be more accurate.

kyiyu

04-06-2007, 09:04 AM

Hi Ants! That is what most of BC members regard you:D . Anyway! Welcome to Singapore and see you then;) .

Kyiyu, m not that a celeb. Just a normal fans like u guys. Anyway i will be in Spore from 1st - 8th of May. :) Hope to see you guys there.

ants

04-08-2007, 06:16 AM

Hi Ants! That is what most of BC members regard you:D . Anyway! Welcome to Singapore and see you then;) .

Haha.. see you there..

LI De Quan

04-09-2007, 01:54 AM

Maybe ZHOU Mi will play in S.S.S.

JaCk™

04-09-2007, 06:36 AM

Maybe ZHOU Mi will play in S.S.S.
representing hong kong? hopes she beats other China players and we will see her ranking shoot up like a rocket. it will be nice if it's a Zhang Ning vs Zhou Mi final. a battle of veterans.

magical_phoenix

04-15-2007, 01:31 AM

Wah, I'm damn excited for this Aviva Open!!! Faint!! Looking forward to see great matches, all the players as well as Loh again :D For those of you coming, c ya guys there too!

ants

04-15-2007, 09:45 AM

The draws will be out soon...

indra

04-16-2007, 11:53 PM

Loh

04-17-2007, 12:02 AM

In my opinion, if all players come, no player withdraw...SO 2007 will be the most competitive tournament.

Indonesia, China, Malaysia, Denmark, Korea will field their BEST players....

Singapore is the most neutral country ....

To Lin Dan's fans, LCW's fans, Peter's fans, Taufik's fans, Chen Jin's Fans ...please get ready to give ur "unconditional" support...OK...:D

Indra!! :) At long last you speak! Waiting very panjang, panjang (long) for you. I even show you pics of your idol during the recently ended ABC. TH is sure to come down to Singapore to play. Agree, SO will be the best yet! So you datang (coming)? Come lah, we'll be waiting with open arms. Selamat Datang ke Singapura! :D

OneToughBirdie

04-17-2007, 12:06 AM

As LOH said, glad to hear from you...I thought either you get bored with postings on this forum, or got kidnapped by some young chicks and taken to a remote island in Indonesia....hahaha!!!:D :D :D

Felicia_txh

04-17-2007, 12:09 AM

Well..hope to c every top players there..it has been such a long time no c LD n BAO..

alfa-2

04-17-2007, 12:11 AM

does anyone know how to get the early bird season ticket?

saugusli

04-17-2007, 12:17 AM

Hi All,

TH will be a champion. Will beat Lin Dan, BCL, Chen Jin... OK. We will support our fans..

As LOH said, glad to hear from you...I thought either you get bored with postings on this forum, or got kidnapped by some young chicks and taken to a remote island in Indonesia....hahaha!!!:D :D :D

Loh

04-17-2007, 12:18 AM

does anyone know how to get the early bird season ticket?

Sorry my laptop and coffee bean friend. Different season, the bird has flown away back to Siberia from Sungei Buloh Wetlands Reserves Singapore! Have to wait next season. But maybe not that long since the environment is playing havoc to the seasons! The early bird may have to change course midway and return to Singapore.

Not to worry, stadium very big and cosy, can get tickets at the door! :D

alfa-2

04-17-2007, 12:27 AM

haha......use coffee bean to charge laptop huh? alright then.....what's the price of a normal season ticket then? any websites that i can refer to?

Loh

04-17-2007, 02:05 AM

haha......use coffee bean to charge laptop huh? alright then.....what's the price of a normal season ticket then? any websites that i can refer to?

Of course! Here goes...

http://www.singaporebadmintonopen.com/en/news/?aid=46957&sec=118&ssec=275&amth=3&ayr=2007

I would very much like to meet up with you and other BC members to have at least a cup of coffee! We will have lots of them at the Aviva Open! ;)

tjl_vanguard

04-17-2007, 02:58 AM

is the draw out yet?

tjl_vanguard

04-17-2007, 03:00 AM

Of course! Here goes...

http://www.singaporebadmintonopen.com/en/news/?aid=46957&sec=118&ssec=275&amth=3&ayr=2007

I would very much like to meet up with you and other BC members to have at least a cup of coffee! We will have lots of them at the Aviva Open! ;)
lets do that next year when u come over for MO in KL ok??i'll be going there from sarawak... :D

indra

04-17-2007, 03:16 AM

Indra!! :) At long last you speak! Waiting very panjang, panjang (long) for you. I even show you pics of your idol during the recently ended ABC. TH is sure to come down to Singapore to play. Agree, SO will be the best yet! So you datang (coming)? Come lah, we'll be waiting with open arms. Selamat Datang ke Singapura! :D

Loh..thanks for sharing the pictures...

yes...I wish I could fly to Singapore to watch one of the best and most competitive Super Series and meet with other BC members...

Thanks for the Selamat Datang ke Singapore!!!:)

Loh

04-17-2007, 04:55 AM

lets do that next year when u come over for MO in KL ok??i'll be going there from sarawak... :D

Oh, you're from Sarawak, the land of hornbills and orang utans (Sabah)?

For our trip to ABC, JB, we have a Sabahan lady (pic in my ABC post) and a Sarawkian gentleman, a KL boy and an ex-Vietnamese National player.

Why wait until next year? Come August let's meet at WC, KL, Bt Jalil! :D

cheeyf

04-17-2007, 05:15 AM

Oh, you're from Sarawak, the land of hornbills and orang utans (Sabah)?

For our trip to ABC, JB, we have a Sabahan lady (pic in my ABC post) and a Sarawkian gentleman, a KL boy and an ex-Vietnamese National player.

Why wait until next year? Come August let's meet at WC, KL, Bt Jalil! :D

so Loh, u are coming for WC rite?hehe. hope 2 see u here. i ask tjl_vanguard to come but it seems that he cant make it. wow u met people from many places in ABC.hehe

Loh

04-17-2007, 06:21 AM

so Loh, u are coming for WC rite?hehe. hope 2 see u here. i ask tjl_vanguard to come but it seems that he cant make it. wow u met people from many places in ABC.hehe

Of course, BC brings badminton fans together to become friends. Here are some of them I got to know when I was down under during the last Melbourne Commonwealth Games and some of them are coming to the WC:

Loh

04-17-2007, 08:11 AM

Aviva Press Release:

The AVIVA Open Singapore 2007 is set to thrill local fans with the hottest action by all the top ranked shuttlers in the world. The event has been given an elevated status as part of the Badminton World Federation's Super Series and now boasts of an increased prize purse of US$200,000.

The AOS 2007 is also the first event to offer qualifying points for the 2008 Olympic Games in Beijing. The top competitors from badminton powerhouses such as China, Denmark, Indonesia and Malaysia are expected to come to Singapore to fight it out for the valuable points and to test themselves against their potential Olympic opponents. Singapore will also have its local hero to cheer for.

Director of Marketing, AVIVA Ltd, Tim Beardsall mentioned "AVIVA has always believed in the key principle that we should actively engage the communities in where we live and operate. This is why we are excited that our involvement in the AVIVA Open results in giving the Singapore shuttlers a world-class event to perform in and the Singapore sport fans such great sport action. With the dream of the Beijing 2008 Olympics in mind, playing against the best in the world ensures a fiery test of ability, commitment and passion, a definite demonstration of AVIVA's philosophy of Forward Thinking."

The event has become a marquee sporting event both locally and internationally, and has contributed significantly to the development of the sport in Singapore. Minister of State for Trade and Industry Lee Yi Shyan, who is also the Deputy President of the Singapore Badminton Association, said: "By having such a top-notch competition right on our doorsteps, it helps to grow the sport of badminton by leaps and bounds in terms of popularity. In fact, in terms of participation, badminton is even ahead of football, according to SSC’s latest survey on sports participation!"

The Minister of State further added "This year's AOS will be even more special as it is the first Olympic qualifying event. The AVIVA Open Singapore 2007 brings the very best competitors in the sport up-close and personal for all our local badminton enthusiasts to watch in action. This is a privilege not every sport fan can enjoy. Thanks to AVIVA. "

Organising Chairman Ng Yoke Weng also enthused “While the cost of staging such an event has risen, our ticket prices has not increased because we want all Singaporeans, badminton enthusiasts or not, to enjoy this sporting spectacle. Come and see some great Badminton action!”

“The position of the AVIVA Singapore Open 2007 as one of Sporting Singapore’s key marquee events has been further bolstered by being placed as one of the 12 premier events in the BWF’s Super Series, and as the first qualifier event leading up to the Beijing Olympics in 2008. This has been made possible through the support from title sponsor AVIVA who has been instrumental in raising the international profile of the event, attracting many of the leading world-class players to compete. Together with the SBA who has worked hard behind the scenes, the AOS 2007 offers a wonderful opportunity for Sporting Singapore to showcase our competencies and organizational capabilities to underline Singapore’s position as the preferred sporting venue of choice”, remarked Mr Daniel Metcalfe, Chief (High Participation and Industry Development Group), Singapore Sports Council.

The AOS 2007 is likely to feature hotter competition than even the Olympics themselves, said Singapore Badminton Association, Acting Chief Executive Jacqueline Lim. "At the Olympics, the top countries are restricted in the number of entries in each of the categories, but not so at our event.

Here at the AOS 2007, China for example, could enter all their elite players. This means that if you want to win, you might have to defeat players like Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai, Chen Jin, Chen Yu and Chen Hong if you don't have a good draw!"

The AOS 2007 will be held at the Singapore Indoor Stadium from 1 May to 6 May. Ticket prices start from $8 for preliminaries and quarter-finals.

Loh

04-17-2007, 08:21 AM

All gunning for a shot at the Olympics!

Aviva Press Release
SINGAPORE, 10 April, 2007

True to it's billing of "Tougher than the Olympics", the Aviva Open Singapore 2007 (AOS 2007) has virtually all the top-30 players in both men's and women's world rankings signing up to take part in the most exciting badminton event to hit South-east Asia this year.

The AOS 2007, which is part of the Badminton World Federation Super Series, is the first event this year to offer the highly coveted Olympic qualifying points which will count towards a place in the Beijing Olympic Games in 2008. The fact that there is no cap on the number of entries from each country for the AOS 2007 means that every country can, and have, sent all their top players to the event, in hopes of achieving as many entries for the Beijing Olympics as possible!

In the Olympics, a country is allowed to send only one entry per event unless it has several top-ranked players. A country can send a maximum of three entries if all its players are in the top four of the world rankings. There is a limit of two entries if a country has two players or pairs in the top 16.

With no such limits at this year's AOS 2007, China for example has entered Lin Dan, Bao Chunlai and Chen Jin, ranked first, second and third in the world, as well as world No. 6 and 7 Chen Hong and Chen Yu! A bad draw could see a player having to fight his way through the entire Chinese contingent for the chance to stand on the winning rostrum! Adding to the mix will be defending AOS champion Peter Gade of Denmark and Malaysia's Lee Chong Wei, who contribute to a men's field jam-packed with truly world-class talent. The reigning Olympics Champion and Asian Games Gold medalist, Taufik Hidayat from Indonesia, will start his campaign for Olympics points here too.

It's an equally star-studded event in the women's field, with world No. 1 Xie Xingfang and reigning Olympic champ and world No. 2 Zhang Ning scheduled to line up alongside compatriot and third-ranked Zhu Lin, Germany's Xu Huaiwen, defending AOS 06 champion France's Pi Hongyan and Hong Kong's Asian Games gold medalist Wang Chen.

In the doubles, the level of competition is equally high and exciting as new pairings, from tried-and-true pairings, have been formed. Indeed, world badminton giant China even has two pairings in the men's doubles event who have to fight their way through the qualifying rounds just for a chance to play in the main draw!

Reigning Olympic champs Gao Ling and Zhang Jun of China have been separated and Gao Ling will continue her partnership with her Asian Games 2006 Gold medal partner, Zheng Bo in the hope of being the next top pairing which can take on the world in Beijing.

All top-10 players in both the men's and women's world rankings are entered for the tournament, which takes place from May 1-6 at the Singapore Indoor Stadium. Besides being able to see the cream of world badminton talent battling it out for a slice of the US$200,000 prize money and the valuable Olympic points, Singapore badminton fans will also be able to catch their favourite local athletes who will be pitting themselves against the best in the world.

A resurgent Ronald Susilo, on the comeback trail from his Achilles tendon injury over a year ago, has regained his place among the best in the world with a world-ranking of 23. He and compatriot Kendrick Lee, ranked 25th, will be hoping for a top finish in their home tournament.

Susilo is clearly excited to be regaining his form ahead of this year's South-east Asia Games in December and next year's Olympics. "It's great that I am finally climbing back into the top 25 of the world rankings and I hope to continue improving in the coming months. The Aviva Open will give me a good start for my Olympic journey because playing in front of a home crowd is always an advantage. "

In the women's event, youngster Xing Aiying has made it into the main draw for the first time with her world ranking of 29. She will join Singapore's No. 1 Li Li, ranked 18th, as they take on the might of badminton powerhouses China, Hong Kong, Denmark, Holland and Japan.

Xing said: "I am so excited that I've made it into the main draw. All my hard work and the trust SBA has in me has paid off! Of course, I will be looking forward to my Olympic Dream. As long as I make good progress in our preparations, who says dreams won’t come true?”

Singapore Badminton Association Acting Chief Executive Jacqueline Lim is hoping for a great finish for Singaporean athletes. "This is our home tournament so we are aiming for a good result, both for our fans here in Singapore and also as preparation for next year's Olympics. It will not be easy given the quality turnout but we have to aim high.”

"This year’s Aviva Open is a fantastic chance for our athletes to test themselves against the very best in the world as well as to gain Olympic qualifying points. Our training has been going well and early season results indicate that we are on the right track. I expect our singles and doubles players to push themselves to the max."

The draw for the event will be held next week on Monday, April 16. But regardless of the draw, Singapore badminton enthusiasts can look forward to one of the most spectacular sporting events of the year at the AOS 2007. With ticket prices ranging from $2 for children to $50 for premium season tickets, the AOS 2007 will offer fantastic value for money and a chance to catch the hottest badminton action right here at our doorsteps!

badMania

04-17-2007, 10:47 AM

ants

04-17-2007, 10:49 AM

Oh yes.. many casualties.. and i hope malaysia will do well this year. Last year was a dissapointing year for Msia Team

cheeyf

04-17-2007, 11:00 AM

ya very bad draw for mas.
so many mas players meeting each other
and others have tough draw too
anyway hope they can do well despite the tough draw.
really wanna see them in action if i can go

ants

04-17-2007, 11:31 AM

hope there will be reshuffle in the draws heheh

cheeyf

04-17-2007, 11:35 AM

ya lo
reshuffle and hope mas get better draws
haha.
actually what factors can caused them to reshuffle?

ants

04-17-2007, 11:43 AM

ya lo
reshuffle and hope mas get better draws
haha.
actually what factors can caused them to reshuffle?

Someone withdraws, or if got manager protest due to some factors can cause a redraw. But not all lineups will have a redraw.

Loh

04-17-2007, 08:30 PM

Not sure if I can attend the Aviva Open again this year due to work committments. I will try my best....and I hope this year's results could match last year's in which Team Pelatnas nabbed 2 titles :D

Looking at the draws, it is surely tougher than the Asian Games or even Olympics. You could witness many casualties starting from the very first round.

My friend, we can't miss you this year! Serla (Magical Phoenix) and I are waiting for you and also Team Pelatnas, which needs your presence to repeat or better their last performance here! Other BC members too, some you've met, some looking forward to meeting you! :)

Loh

04-17-2007, 08:33 PM

Oh yes.. many casualties.. and i hope malaysia will do well this year. Last year was a dissapointing year for Msia Team

Wah! Malaysia is bringing the biggest contingent, especially in the men's events. I'm afraid some of them will have to meet up in the earlier rounds. ;)

badMania

04-17-2007, 10:17 PM

My friend, we can't miss you this year! Serla (Magical Phoenix) and I are waiting for you and also Team Pelatnas, which needs your presence to repeat or better their last performance here! Other BC members too, some you've met, some looking forward to meeting you! :)

I am also looking forward to meeting u guys again...well...see how's gonna turn out. I WILL DEFINITELY be in SG in the following week...but to come 1 week earlier...hmmm...we'll see :cool:

ants

04-17-2007, 11:16 PM

Just tell them that you will be working during SO in Singapore.. so no need to go to Spore the following week after SO. At least you can still catch some action.

Loh

04-19-2007, 05:12 AM

To those of you who are coming for the Aviva Open and may not be familiar with some of Singapore's more scenic attractions, I am posting some pictures taken today from my office building, which is overlooking the Singapore River.

The Padang

In Malay, padang means a big field which you can see here. It is a popular place for sports and recreation and in fact is anchored at both ends by the Singapore Cricket Club (formerly a social club patronized by the British) and the Singapore Recreation Club (popular with our Eurasian community).

On the left side is the impressive Supreme Court (with a green dome) and City Hall buildings and on the right surrounding the Singapore River and Marina Bay are Fullerton Hotel, located in between the Cavanagh Bridge (front) and Anderson Bridge (back) and the Durian, Esplanade - Theatres on the Bay.

A new addition, The Singapore Flyer (The big white wheel at the extreme top right) is still under construction.

On the foreground is our Asian Civilisation Museum just facing the Singapore River. In the background are the hotels and Suntec City, with Pan Pacific Hotel (where the badminton players are housed) just behind the Esplanade. The very tall circular building on the left is the Swissotel-The Stamford.

Loh

04-19-2007, 05:24 AM

Sorry, here are the pictures:

Loh

04-19-2007, 05:39 AM

You can see them on the extreme top right in the last two pics.

They are located around the Marina Bay which will be developed soon with the Integrated Resort (incorporating the Casino) and the new Financial Hub.

The colourful floating platform with the seating gallery (25,000) facing it is presently constructed specially for our National Day Parade on August 9. We used to have our ND celebrations at our National Stadium in Kallang, but it will be a novelty to have the parade on water for the first time as the Stadium will be demolished to make way for our Sports Hub.

The venue for the Aviva Open at the Singapore Indoor Stadium (which can accommodate at least 10,000 people) is also in Kallang, not far away from Pan Pacific Hotel where the players (and Ants & Terry) will be put up.

The Singapore Flyer is our version of the London Eye and should come onstream next year. It will be another new experience for both locals and visitors.

ants

04-19-2007, 05:44 AM

Yeah... same as the Eye Of Malaysia. Same company.

sen

04-19-2007, 05:57 AM

bangkok already has giant wheel

singapore should have reverse bungee jumping

Loh

04-19-2007, 06:06 AM

Next to the Asian Civilisation Museum in the foreground fronting the River, is our new Parliament House. The semi-circular shaped bridge that separates Boat Quay and Clarke Quay (new entertainment centre that includes The Ministry of Sound and the now defunct Crazy Horse). is the Elgin Bridge.

The space-ship-like building is our new Supreme Court and it faces the street (North Bridge Rd) where the famous computer and accessories Funan Centre is located. The tall bluish building just after Elgin Bridge is the High Street Centre The tall white building opposite is the Riverwalk Plaza.

The Central which is a shopping and office complex has now sprung up at Clarke Quay and you can see the giant cranes behind it. In the left foreground is the famous Boat Quay for alfresco dinning.

Should be an interesting district for visitors.

Loh

04-19-2007, 06:09 AM

bangkok already has giant wheel

singapore should have reverse bungee jumping

Oh yes, we do have the reverse Bungee Jump at Clarke Quay. :)

But the Singapore Flyer is a big one and I understand that the carriages are very big also. You can have a small party in it. :D

yannie

04-19-2007, 07:27 AM

I'm SOOOOO sad.. I just wanna join you all.. Serla, Loh, Ants, Jes and everyone else who is going.. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

X Ball

04-19-2007, 07:32 AM

I'm SOOOOO sad.. I just wanna join you all.. Serla, Loh, Ants, Jes and everyone else who is going.. :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

No need to cry, Loh will buy u a ticket coz he is such a nice man.

yannie

04-19-2007, 07:34 AM

No need to cry, Loh will buy u a ticket coz he is such a nice man.

Flight ticket? :eek: Is it true, Loh? :D :D :D

X Ball

04-19-2007, 07:43 AM

Flight ticket? :eek: Is it true, Loh? :D :D :D

Book it before he changes his mind !

Loh

04-19-2007, 08:40 PM

No need to cry, Loh will buy u a ticket coz he is such a nice man.

Actually X Ball wanted to buy you one but is too shy to tell you directly. So he uses my name as a shield. Come back to Singapore, X Ball, if only just for a few days and let's have a ball with the rest of the BC members, including Ants. Don't forget Yannie! ;)

Satays are waiting!

X Ball

04-19-2007, 08:52 PM

Actually X Ball wanted to buy you one but is too shy to tell you directly. So he uses my name as a shield. Come back to Singapore, X Ball, if only just for a few days and let's have a ball with the rest of the BC members, including Ants. Don't forget Yannie! ;)

Satays are waiting!

Awwww....Loh, you disppoint us. I had so much confidence that you would accomodate our dear gal, Yannie, that I commited on your behalf. Oh Yannie, what can I say but sorry.....you'll have to watch LIVE web broadcasts at best.;)

Actually, I may be in Singapore and will watch the QTR Final, at least (LCW vs LD), and if LCW proceeds then I will stay for more.:D

Loh

04-19-2007, 09:10 PM

Awwww....Loh, you disppoint us. I had so much confidence that you would accomodate our dear gal, Yannie, that I commited on your behalf. Oh Yannie, what can I say but sorry.....you'll have to watch LIVE web broadcasts at best.;)

Actually, I may be in Singapore and will watch the QTR Final, at least (LCW vs LD), and if LCW proceeds then I will stay for more.:D

Good to know that you're coming! Stay on till Sun for the finals! :) Don't forget to contact us.

I know LCW has beaten HH many times before, but you can't be sure whether history will repeat itself as both are fighting hard for Olympic points. HH may decide to drop his Yoyo tag and turn on his AE champion style (Style mesti mahu, kalah tidak apa) and then... Well someone has to lose in a fight. :rolleyes:

A final match between TH and LD should prove very interesting! ;)

X Ball

04-19-2007, 10:54 PM

Good to know that you're coming! Stay on till Sun for the finals! :) Don't forget to contact us.

I know LCW has beaten HH many times before, but you can't be sure whether history will repeat itself as both are fighting hard for Olympic points. HH may decide to drop his Yoyo tag and turn on his AE champion style (Style mesti mahu, kalah tidak apa) and then... Well someone has to lose in a fight. :rolleyes:

A final match between TH and LD should prove very interesting! ;)

IF LCW loses to HH, I may cancel my trip !:D

ants

04-19-2007, 11:03 PM

Well very unlikely LCW will lose to HH. Unless LCW is still very down due to Li Mao's departure.

Oh well.. we will see..

Loh

04-19-2007, 11:32 PM

IF LCW loses to HH, I may cancel my trip !:D

Okay, okay, LCW will win and advance to meet...? Who ... and what will happen?

In any case, we want to see you and ants has suggested a big makan gathering for all BC members, perhaps during the semi-finals night.

Satay will certainly be on the menu, plus lots of other local fare like stingray, shell fish like see hum, rojak, char kway teow, mee rebus, local desserts including ice kachang, chengdo, etc, etc, etc.

And we will have it at the famous "Lau Pa Sat", alfresco style, not too far away from the Indoor Stadium for convenient transportation.

Now surely you won't want to miss all these and our good company? :D

X Ball

04-20-2007, 12:00 AM

Okay, okay, LCW will win and advance to meet...? Who ... and what will happen?

In any case, we want to see you and ants has suggested a big makan gathering for all BC members, perhaps during the semi-finals night.

Satay will certainly be on the menu, plus lots of other local fare like stingray, shell fish like see hum, rojak, char kway teow, mee rebus, local desserts including ice kachang, chengdo, etc, etc, etc.

And we will have it at the famous "Lau Pa Sat", alfresco style, not too far away from the Indoor Stadium for convenient transportation.

Now surely you won't want to miss all these and our good company? :D

Hahaha, good man. If I make it I will --- I may go as early as next week for biz.

BadFever

04-20-2007, 12:04 AM

Satay will certainly be on the menu, plus lots of other local fare like stingray, shell fish like see hum, rojak, char kway teow, mee rebus, local desserts including ice kachang, chengdo, etc, etc, etc.

Wah, Loh, after reading your post my saliva is dripping all over work table now. Can get you to "ta pau" all the above and DHL over or not. :p

Anyway, hope all you guys have a great time and remember to post many many pics soon.

badMania

04-20-2007, 12:16 AM

Okay, okay, LCW will win and advance to meet...? Who ... and what will happen?

In any case, we want to see you and ants has suggested a big makan gathering for all BC members, perhaps during the semi-finals night.

Satay will certainly be on the menu, plus lots of other local fare like stingray, shell fish like see hum, rojak, char kway teow, mee rebus, local desserts including ice kachang, chengdo, etc, etc, etc.

And we will have it at the famous "Lau Pa Sat", alfresco style, not too far away from the Indoor Stadium for convenient transportation.

Now surely you won't want to miss all these and our good company? :D

Arghh...don't remind me of the food....miss the satay...:rolleyes:

ctjcad

04-20-2007, 12:17 AM

Hahaha, good man. If I make it I will --- I may go as early as next week for biz.
...X Ball, go lah, what's the wait;) ...Loh has already put forth some tempting & appetizing menu for the get-together...Even BadFever and badMania are tempted to go, just by Loh's description of the foods..:p :D :cool:
*Btw, Loh, yes, please take pics of the get-together meal, just like last yr..:):cool:

X Ball

04-20-2007, 12:39 AM

...X Ball, go lah, what's the wait;) ...Loh has already put forth some tempting & appetizing menu for the get-together...Even BadFever and badMania are tempted to go, just by Loh's description of the foods..:p :D :cool:
*Btw, Loh, yes, please take pics of the get-together meal, just like last yr..:):cool:

hahaha, you think I don't want to go -- I like eating at the Lau Pa Sat? I am a bit busy sometimes but if work permits, I will go. I get as big a thrill as anyone else watching the game.

I go to Singapore from KL frequently --- if I go, don't mind me joining.

yannie

04-20-2007, 04:37 AM

It's okay Loh and X-Ball, I knew it was too good to be true :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying: :crying:

Loh

04-20-2007, 05:00 AM

This famous steel market place of old, Lau Pa Sat, is now a splendid place for hawker fare and unique cuisines both served indoors and outdoors, alfresco style. In the evening, an adjacent road will be closed to motorized traffic to allow for dining under the skies.

Food prices are most reasonable but one has to bear the humidity, especially in the afternoons, as there is no airconditioning. LPS was specially built to allow natural airflow but with the addition of high ceiling fans to ease the heat within its compound. The wrought iron panels were specially imported from Scotland during the early British colonial days as the technology was not available in the region. Its architecture is a beauty of sorts and difficult to replicate.

I hope our BC members can congregate here to have a taste of not only the great variety of food but also the beautiful iron and steel structure. It is a convenient meeting place.

LI De Quan

04-20-2007, 05:13 AM

Loh

04-20-2007, 05:44 AM

Having shown you a bird's eye view of the Singapore River, Boat Quay and the Civic District, I will now bring you down to ground level for some snap shots of the neighbourhood, a locality that I'm very familiar with since I've been working there for many years.

Loh

04-20-2007, 06:18 AM

Two exits of the Raffles Place MRT(underground train) station lead commuters out to the refreshing open square that is surrounded by impressive buildings for offices, restaurants and shopping.

This is the financial district of Singapore which will latter be moved to nearby Shenton Way where the future Financial Hub located nearer to the Integrated Resorts at Marina Bay will be sited.

ctjcad

04-20-2007, 11:57 AM

This is the financial district of Singapore which will latter be moved to nearby Shenton Way where the future Financial Hub located nearer to the Integrated Resorts at Marina Bay will be sited.
...what will happen to the current financial district once it's relocated to Shenton Way??..Will there be 2 financial districts in S'pore??..:confused:

Han

04-20-2007, 01:02 PM

Wow, after seeing all these wonderful high rise building, I have to say my home town Malacca is still a "bit" behind :D

bocmark

04-21-2007, 10:08 PM

LI Yongbo said ZN and BCL is not in good form now because of injury.
So, I think CY can beat BCL this time if they both get through to the 1/4 finals.
Also, if ZHOU Mi can overcome WANG Lin, she may beat ZN.

Hey! How come no one extend special invitation to LI De Quan! As far as I can tell, the staunch and unwavering CHN supporter. ;) It'll be good to see the clash of titans (MAS v CHN fans) in live... :D:D:D If it does happen, LOH pls take some photos

Loh

04-22-2007, 11:21 PM

Wow, after seeing all these wonderful high rise building, I have to say my home town Malacca is still a "bit" behind :D

Malacca has a certain 'old world' charm and many Singaporeans like to visit for short weekend trips. Not a few like to browse around the antique shops and sample the local hawker fare plus the peranakan cuisines. The Portuguese influence is quite prevalent.

In addition, modern hotels and shopping centres make the place more familiar with visitors. :)

Loh

04-23-2007, 12:10 AM

...what will happen to the current financial district once it's relocated to Shenton Way??..Will there be 2 financial districts in S'pore??..:confused:

Actually in future the banks and other financial institutions will converge near Marina Ba area, off Shenton Way, where the Sands Integrated Resorts will be located, as you can see from the map.

But I think the relocation will probably take quite some time (in year) since some of the banks, mainly local, have their own buildings around Raffles Place and leases may be on a longer term for others.

X Ball

04-23-2007, 04:30 AM

wl2172

04-23-2007, 05:33 AM

Got to say something, Singapore is too crowded and will become even more so in years to come as it increases its population.

I still think Malaysia is a better place to live in. Sorry.

I will retire in Australia, the lucky country.

I agree with that, and cost is lower in Malaysia. My sister and her husband just bought a linked house in Singapore for over a million dollars, and they are staring at a huge loan for the next 30 years of their lives (they both have good jobs BTW).

For that money, you can buy a nice big house or 3 luxury apartments in seri hartamas, one for yourself, and 2 rented out to expats.

Anyway, back to badminton please :)

X Ball

04-23-2007, 09:37 AM

I agree with that, and cost is lower in Malaysia. My sister and her husband just bought a linked house in Singapore for over a million dollars, and they are staring at a huge loan for the next 30 years of their lives (they both have good jobs BTW).

For that money, you can buy a nice big house or 3 luxury apartments in seri hartamas, one for yourself, and 2 rented out to expats.

Anyway, back to badminton please :)

You'll make a good investment officer !:)

ctjcad

04-23-2007, 02:36 PM

Actually in future the banks and other financial institutions will converge near Marina Ba area, off Shenton Way, where the Sands Integrated Resorts will be located, as you can see from the map.

But I think the relocation will probably take quite some time (in year) since some of the banks, mainly local, have their own buildings around Raffles Place and leases may be on a longer term for others.
..i see, thanks for sharing that...Looks like S'pore is changing its image in the next few yrs w/ so many new developments..:cool:
Abt S'pore being crowded w/ so many people and properties being expensive, of course it will be and i think it goes w/ the living cost & standard also. Same story here in the U.S., esp. in big metropolitan cities like L.A., S.F., Chicago and of course N.Y. in comparison to smaller midwest/central/southeast U.S. cities. One can't compare the living cost and standard of those hussling & bustling metro-hubs to smaller, less populated cities/areas/towns.;)

wilfredlgf

04-23-2007, 07:29 PM

Wow, after seeing all these wonderful high rise building, I have to say my home town Malacca is still a "bit" behind :D
High rises are not signs of progress or modernity - it's the sign of the rising costs of land! :)

Loh

04-23-2007, 09:11 PM

Got to say something, Singapore is too crowded and will become even more so in years to come as it increases its population.

I still think Malaysia is a better place to live in. Sorry.

I will retire in Australia, the lucky country.

Yes, tiny Singapore will even be more crowded by around 2025 as we intend to increase the population by another 50% to about 6.5 million, in order to keep the economy going and maintain a high standard of living. There will be more skyscrapers, not unlike in Hong Kong now.

But the public services and the environment will keep pace with high standards and Singapore already has plans, some already being implemented, to transform the Garden City even more beautiful and to include the water bodies as part of our island landscape for rest and recreation.

There are many places in the world, big and extensive, but few would like to live in for various reasons, some of which concern the standard of public services, the schools, markets; the condition of the roads; an efficient transportation system; the standard of healthcare, hygiene, cleanliness, security; the availability of amenities, etc, etc.

It is not of much use if you live in a big country, in a big house but when you step out of it, you fear that you are not safe, well protected. Gangsters may gun you down, snatch thieves may just zoom by you on their motorcycles to grab your personal belongings. Crime rate is high. Added to this are the social habits of the residents, whether they spit about the place, whether they just throw their rubbish at random, etc, etc.

That may be one reason why X Ball chooses to retire in Australia, intead of remaining in Malaysia! :rolleyes:

taufik-ist

04-23-2007, 09:36 PM

Loh

04-23-2007, 10:25 PM

Indonesia has prohibited sands exports to singapore for reclamation :p

I think now the sand are more urgently required for constructing the new buildings, the IR resorts both at Marina Bay (Sands) and Sentosa (Genting) as well as for the new financial hub.

Indonesia's sudden prohibition has certainly surprised us as not only our construction activities have been slowed down but the livelihood of Indonesian workers is also adversely affected. Our government has released its stockpile of sand and it appears that we are now importing from other neighbouring countries to ease the situation and to stabilise prices.

Meanwhile, Singapore is looking into changing its method of construction with the use of more steel structures instead of relying on cement which requires sand to produce.

Hopefully Indonesia will ease its restrictions and bring the situation back to normal.

indra

04-23-2007, 11:03 PM

Yes, tiny Singapore will even be more crowded by around 2025 as we intend to increase the population by another 50% to about 6.5 million, in order to keep the economy going and maintain a high standard of living. There will be more skyscrapers, not unlike in Hong Kong now.

But the public services and the environment will keep pace with high standards and Singapore already has plans, some already being implemented, to transform the Garden City even more beautiful and to include the water bodies as part of our island landscape for rest and recreation.

There are many places in the world, big and extensive, but few would like to live in for various reasons, some of which concern the standard of public services, the schools, markets; the condition of the roads; an efficient transportation system; the standard of healthcare, hygiene, cleanliness, security; the availability of amenities, etc, etc.

It is not of much use if you live in a big country, in a big house but when you step out of it, you fear that you are not safe, well protected. Gangsters may gun you down, snatch thieves may just zoom by you on their motorcycles to grab your personal belongings. Crime rate is high. Added to this are the social habits of the residents, whether they spit about the place, whether they just throw their rubbish at random, etc, etc.

That may be one reason why X Ball chooses to retire in Australia, intead of remaining in Malaysia! :rolleyes:

Yes....I guess Singapore is one of the most well-organized and well-governed countries in the world :)

The same is true for Badminton. As such, Singapore Super Series should be 8*, as in my opinion, SS has always been more competitive than any other tournaments including All-England...

Loh

04-23-2007, 11:11 PM

Loh

04-23-2007, 11:16 PM

Hey! How come no one extend special invitation to LI De Quan! As far as I can tell, the staunch and unwavering CHN supporter. ;) It'll be good to see the clash of titans (MAS v CHN fans) in live... :D:D:D If it does happen, LOH pls take some photos

We don't know who he/she is, not even the exact location in China as profiled! :(

On the other hand, we know Yannie quite well from so many of her postings. We have even seen her photographs, the place where she lives, etc and therefore we can relate to her much better. Maybe LDQ can do likewise? :rolleyes:

Loh

04-23-2007, 11:33 PM

Yes....I guess Singapore is one of the most well-organized and well-governed countries in the world :)

The same is true for Badminton. As such, Singapore Super Series should be 8*, as in my opinion, SS has always been more competitive than any other tournaments including All-England...

Wah Indra! Terima Kasi sa-tinggi tinggi!
Such compliments from a TH fan will inspire us to do even better.

BTW, TH has many fans in Singapore as well. When he went to our schools to demonstrate his skills during his relatively short stay here some years ago, the boys and girls just fell head over heels for him! :p

Only wished you could come and join us, not only for the Aviva Open, but also a BC "Makan" Get-together on semi-finals night. :)

ctjcad

04-24-2007, 12:54 AM

Yes....I guess Singapore is one of the most well-organized and well-governed countries in the world :)
..true but i think this is sort of an understatement.:p I believe they are the most strict, "we're very serious so don't mess around" country in the world(along with M'sia); and yep, more so than U.S., esp. with that "NO DRUGS allowed unless you want a very harsh/death penalty" rule..:eek: :rolleyes: :crying: :p

The same is true for Badminton. As such, Singapore Super Series should be 8*, as in my opinion, SS has always been more competitive than any other tournaments including All-England...
..yes, quite agree:) ..S'pore is very unique and has that "east-meets-west atmosphere" and charm..And of course, with English as one of its main languages, which bodes well to those non-local/non-Mandarin speaking folks..;) :cool:

Loh

04-24-2007, 01:45 AM

..true but i think this is sort of an understatement.:p I believe they are the most strict, "we're very serious so don't mess around" country in the world(along with M'sia); and yep, more so than U.S., esp. with that "NO DRUGS allowed unless you want a very harsh/death penalty" rule..:eek: :rolleyes: :crying: :p

Well, if you think about it, drugs traffickers themselves bring death to many victims. So if they should be caught and given the death penalty, this is not even enough to pay for the many sometimes innocent and young lives that were indirectly killed by them.

Countries that are lenient on drug traffickers could then be said to be encouring more of them to earn easy money by taking away lives.

That's why Singapore is unyielding on this front. :cool:

..yes, quite agree:) ..S'pore is very unique and has that "east-meets-west atmosphere" and charm..And of course, with English as one of its main languages, which bodes well to those non-local/non-Mandarin speaking folks..;) :cool:

Unlike many other developing countries that newly attained independence from their colonial masters, Singapore chose not to play on "nationalism" . Some other countries tried to go it their own way by destroying whatever they have inherited from them and tried to emphasize their own culture, their own language.

Fortunately our pioneer leaders were more insightful and retained English as not only the business and education language but as a means also to bond the various races through a common 'neutral' language. Since Singapore is predominantly Chinese, it could have chosen Chinese to the detriment of the other races.

But this stroke of genius by retaining English as the main medium of communication actually helped propelled Singapore into the First World way ahead of others of more or less similar colonial background. Instead of fighting our colonial masters, we cooperated with them and pleased them by retaining English as part of our heritage.

For English is the most spoken word in the world in that many countries speak it to communicate with each other. Those countries without a fluent usage of English will find their development hindered. Thankfully many of our pioneer leaders were educated in the West, in prestigious UK universities in particular. :)

wilfredlgf

04-24-2007, 03:42 AM

But this stroke of genius by retaining English as the main medium of communication actually helped propelled Singapore into the First World way ahead of others of more or less similar colonial background. Instead of fighting our colonial masters, we cooperated with them and pleased them by retaining English as part of our heritage.

For English is the most spoken word in the world in that many countries speak it to communicate with each other. Those countries without a fluent usage of English will find their development hindered. Thankfully many of our pioneer leaders were educated in the West, in prestigious UK universities in particular. :)

This stroke of genius is also eroding the cultural diversity of Singapore as more and more of the newer generation cannot or have forgotten about their mother tongues and/or dialects. The homogenity(sp?) of the situation means that only an accepted norm/culture is going to propagate amongst the people.

Not saying that non of the say, Chinese in Singapore are capable of actually speaking their home dialects but the trend where one cannot even comprehend Mandarin is becoming more and more apparent as the years go by. This was told to me by a Singaporean friend herself, whom said she can no longer speak in her father's Hokkien tongue whilst many of her coursemates at the university can hardly understand Mandarin.

Is this the price of unity and progress? Quite a paradox.

Dreamzz

04-24-2007, 04:14 AM

it's still better than what *some* governments are doing by ostracising their own citizens whilst pretending there's some perceived unity within the country. but that's a story for another day and we're repidly departing from the original topic ... :p

wilfredlgf

04-24-2007, 04:23 AM

I was hoping for an attack on the issue instead of the character but then again... oh well.

Back to badminton we go!

Dreamzz

04-24-2007, 04:48 AM

hahahaha, i'm just a bitter and disillusioned soul ....

Loh

04-24-2007, 05:28 AM

This stroke of genius is also eroding the cultural diversity of Singapore as more and more of the newer generation cannot or have forgotten about their mother tongues and/or dialects. The homogenity(sp?) of the situation means that only an accepted norm/culture is going to propagate amongst the people.

Not saying that non of the say, Chinese in Singapore are capable of actually speaking their home dialects but the trend where one cannot even comprehend Mandarin is becoming more and more apparent as the years go by. This was told to me by a Singaporean friend herself, whom said she can no longer speak in her father's Hokkien tongue whilst many of her coursemates at the university can hardly understand Mandarin.

Is this the price of unity and progress? Quite a paradox.

I don't quite agree with your friend.

On the other hand, many more young people in Singapore are bilingual. In other words, they can write and speak, and certainly comprehend and converse in both English and Mandarin for the Chinese. Much better than my generation which seemed to rely mainly on one language, either English or Mandarin.

Of course if you are referring to the standard or level of proficiency, it is a different matter altogether. Quite naturally, if one has to spend a similar amount of time to study two languages instead of one, a very high standard cannot be achieved in both. It also depends on the student's interest and abilities. Very good students have the opportunity to study 'higher' Chinese as Singapore's policy is also catered to the very talented, not only the average. And the curriculum is constantly reviewed to enhance the teaching of Chinese and to make hitherto disinterested students interested.

The learning of dialects is now left mainly to the parents or grandparents who will also transmit traditions, beliefs, practices and unique cultures to the young and not just left to the schools. Interested young people can also learn culture from the internet, where information is abundant. They can also view DVD movies in dialects in private.

A foreigner can easily learn about the cultures of the world, including the Chinese culture, if he is interested and can even go on to pursue a doctorate in the study of it. He will then know much, much more about the Chinese culture than many Chinese do. So you don't need to be a Chinese to know about Chinese culture. Surely one must have come across a non-Chinese who is a professor of Chinese in some well-known and highly regarded universities.

Interestingly, a recent survey has found that almost 250 million Chinese, mainly farmers, in China do not know how to read or write Chinese. Although they can converse verbally they are illiterate in Chinese but this does not prevent them from knowing and learning Chinese culture as they are living and practising it in their homes as taught by their elders and in their interaction with their neighbours and countrymen.

Singapore has long discouraged the use of too many Chinese dialects as it creates divisions and sometimes confusion. The learning of Mandarin is good enough to bring the Chinese community together to understand a common language as the written form is the same for all Chinese dialects.

In fact the environment for learning the two different languages in Singapore has improved over the years with more interesting programmes on TV and the advent of the internet. The Chinese newspapers make it easier by using simplier language to attract more readers. Even the English-speakers are interested to watch Mandarin serials and sing Chinese Karaoke songs and thus are able to learn the language quicker.

China's economic boom has given Mandarin learning more meaning (Unlike Taiwan which uses Hokkien as well, China uses Mandarin only) and our students tend to benefit in this respect. Our bilingual educational policy has now created another advantage for our people, aside from English at the very beginning of our economic development. Our students now better understand and value more what they have been put through! ;)

So rather than the policies making our young people pay a high price and causing disunity, they have prepared our young for the challenges ahead, though not perfectly but at least given them a chance to face the issues and continue to learn from there.

Now the challenge for us is how to make Singaporeans accept more cosmopolitianism to enhance our economical well-being and bring everything possible to a new high. Just like the dynamism and cosmopilitan culture one finds in New York and London. :)

wilfredlgf

04-24-2007, 06:14 AM

Good retort there, Loh. Just what I was looking for. :)

X Ball

04-24-2007, 07:42 AM

It is not of much use if you live in a big country, in a big house but when you step out of it, you fear that you are not safe, well protected. Gangsters may gun you down, snatch thieves may just zoom by you on their motorcycles to grab your personal belongings. Crime rate is high. Added to this are the social habits of the residents, whether they spit about the place, whether they just throw their rubbish at random, etc, etc.

That may be one reason why X Ball chooses to retire in Australia, intead of remaining in Malaysia! :rolleyes:

I feel rather safe in KL. I like the big houses (although I don't stay in one), the big space to move about in the country (from Penang to Cameron Highlands, from KL to Desaru, from Malacca to Trengannu, and from Seremban to Genting Highlands). The food is also very good here in KL. I can drive for hours without paying thru my nose. The food is so cheap.

I don't like the crowded spaces in Singapore (all the shops are so crowded), the parking coupons I have to purchase and put on my car every where I park; the charging of entry into the city; the high petrol prices; the high cost of owning homes; the high prices of car; my mee pok is double price in Singapore, and the places to visit are so few. I basically don't like the PAY and PAY (PAP) environment !:D

I enjoy the fishing in Australia; the vineyards, the SPACE, and the climate. Malaysia and Australia are both wonderful places to live !

wl2172

04-24-2007, 09:35 AM

Dreamzz

04-24-2007, 09:50 AM

woah, steady gents, this thread has gone wayyyy off topic!

OneToughBirdie

04-24-2007, 11:20 AM

A hot and emotional topic to discuss. There is no perfect place to live, while we say Singapore is an expensive place to live penalize for everything but we also admire Sing, being a tiny island with practically no resources (even water is imported), the govt has done a great job shaping the country into a progressive and highly educated society. Loh's comments have merits too, don't we agree? I sometimes wonder if MAS with its huge virgin land, lotsa resources, cheap labour, etc...if only MAS has HK or Sing's progressive attitude, MAS gotta be a great place to live and work, and who wanna leave to go anywhere else?

ants

04-24-2007, 11:37 AM

Hmmm sounds good... :) But then we are out of topic here.

ctjcad

04-24-2007, 11:52 AM

...and luck is on my side this yr, i shall visit M'sia for the 1st time(WC) and hopefully and perhaps I can give some kind of an assessment(s) of my experience(s) there..IMO, both countries have their advantages and disadvantages. I guess those are what make the countries what they are.
I, personally, have visited and spent quite a few days in S'pore, thus i can give my own point of view; eventhough i come from a western culture(U.S.).
*Sorry again for the off-topic discussion(partly i'm involved and as we're filling in time while waiting for the upcoming S'pore Open):p

wl2172

04-24-2007, 01:11 PM

wilfredlgf

04-24-2007, 08:38 PM

I'm surprised this thing is still here after seeing much tamer threads get binned.

X Ball

04-24-2007, 08:54 PM

A bit of difference in opinions do not hurt anyone. To each his own I say. I have lived in Singapore and Malaysia so I have my own opinions.

Cheers Loh.

Loh

04-24-2007, 10:02 PM

Loh, stop insinuating that Malaysia is unsafe, dirty and full of criminals. It is totally uncalled for, and I see this as very very insulting.

I am not saying that Singapore is not a nice place to live, but unfortunatley it has priced itself so high that a large number of the people can only afford to live in HDB flats. I had a friend from Britain who commented that the house prices there are equal or even higher than UK, and that is quite amazing. The UK is surrounded by very developed, and thus, equally expensive countries, so that is not too bad. However, Singapore is surronded by far cheaper economies (albeit less developed). In many ways, Malaysia has a lot to learn from Singapore's effiency and effective execution. But this quote below, I am afraid to say, is very very bad. If that is how you view us, then you really do not respect your neighbours. You think we live in gutters? (pardon my English, for I am unschooled).

"It is not of much use if you live in a big country, in a big house but when you step out of it, you fear that you are not safe, well protected. Gangsters may gun you down, snatch thieves may just zoom by you on their motorcycles to grab your personal belongings. Crime rate is high. Added to this are the social habits of the residents, whether they spit about the place, whether they just throw their rubbish at random, etc, etc.

That may be one reason why X Ball chooses to retire in Australia, intead of remaining in Malaysia!"

However, my impression of you as a person who can accept other opinions have gone down the drain. X Ball, there is no point in arguing with Loh further, he will not change his view of us judging from his quote.

I am actually very very disappointed. I was going to accept a position with a Singapore mobile phone operator, and would have brought in much knowledge in the development of 4G WiMax and WiFi for mobile phones , but it is things like this that I will now accept another position in KL. No amount of money will make me feel accepted or happy if Malaysia is viewed so negatively all the time.

I hope this discussion is at an end as it has nothing to do with badminton.

Give me a chance to reply.

My statement is very general and need not apply to your country in particular, unless there is a reason to do so. You should not insinuate into what I say and put it so negatively.

My statement applies especially to some developing countries where the country is big and resources rich but the leaders are corrupt and poverty is more rampant, educational levels low, crime rate tends to be higher as a result. We have read so much from the papers and seen with our own eyes the sufferings of the common folks, many of whom do not have a decent meal a day.

There are also developed countries with 'imported' social problems in that the foreign workers bring with them social habits and behaviours which are at odds with their host country. Some even resort to killing each other because of misunderstandings. This may be a way of settling arguments in their own country but is totally unacceptable in the host country. Singapore has experienced some of these problems. But the enforcement agencies, like the Police, etc, are able to tackle and contain them before they are being blown out of proportion and become a menace to society.

The degree of crime, etc, is relative and is present in all countries, whether they are from the First World or the Third World. The effectiveness of the law and its implementation is what counts most and therein lies the difference of whether one feels safer or more comfortable in one country compared to another and makes his final choice, having considered all other relevant issues. But unfortunately, for the majority us, it is not easy to migrate to another "better" country because of our own limitations and the host country's strict requirements. For the better educated, mobile young professional, it is much easier, because talents are wanted especially in countries which want to push ahead for various reasons. So if one is really talented the world is at his feet.

Now let's come back to XBall's comments which elicited a reply from me and for which you are not happy about. He said he prefers living in Malaysia and not Singapore, because the latter is too crowded. I have given him a reply and acknowledged that Singapore will be more crowded in future because we need more people to build the economy:

"Got to say something, Singapore is too crowded and will become even more so in years to come as it increases its population.

I still think Malaysia is a better place to live in. Sorry.

I will retire in Australia, the lucky country."

Then I asked why he wants to retire in Australia if he likes Malaysia so much.

But you miscontrued it as unwarranted and became agitated.
You should know that King Stirer XBall meant no harm and this forum is just an escape for us to unleash our stress, if any, or just an exchange of views and information. XBall is entitled to his own opinions as much as we are entitled to ours.

Yes property prices are hotting up in Singapore. Foreign money is pouring in from many countries not only for prime properties but also for other investment instruments and avenues. This is good for Singapore as foreigners show confidence in our country. Even Malaysia's Genting International feels happy to have won the bid to build an Integrated Resort, with a casino, on our Sentosa island that will cost some US$3 billion. American conglomerate, Sands, has clinched the first IR costing about the same price to be built on reclaimed land at Marina Bay.

Fortunately for the common masses, long ago since it came into power, the government has not only initiated a plan to enable about 80% of ordinary people to own their own HDB (Housing Development Board) homes, but is constantly reviewing the mass housing situation in order not to allow prices to escalate out of proportion. For the well-paid young professionals who wish to live in condominium style, they have to pay the market price which is driven by market forces. Now the price is shooting up because demand for the popular properties has exceeded supply.

X Ball

04-24-2007, 10:23 PM

Give me a chance to reply.

My statement is very general and need not apply to your country in particular, unless there is a reason to do so. You should not insinuate into what I say and put it so negatively.

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Loh, you are quite defensive. Less said the better.

Loh

04-24-2007, 10:51 PM

Loh, you are quite defensive. Less said the better.

I thought you were more defensive than me when you finally said Malaysia and Australia are both wonderful places to live but you prefer to retire in Australia instead.

But I agree with you when you say:

"A bit of difference in opinions do not hurt anyone. To each his own I say. I have lived in Singapore and Malaysia so I have my own opinions." ;)

jimbo

04-24-2007, 11:03 PM

Ever since I "migrated" to Sillypore from US, I've been living in a dog cage aka HDB flat. Sorry guys, but we need a spacey place to live and the dog cage is certainly too constraint. The reason for a "foreign talent" to stay n work here is because of the strong SG currency and safety. No doubt, SG is one of the safest place on earth and their public transport is top notch. However, if u wanna retire in a big banglow and car, unless u r a millionaire, it's kinda impossible to achieve ur dream in SG.

As far as we (MY and SG PR holders), we should take enjoy the both world (strong SG currency and retire in MY).

Oppss... we are going too far... Let's enjoy SG Open and cheer for LCW, LD and Taufik :D

Loh

04-24-2007, 11:52 PM

I feel rather safe in KL. I like the big houses (although I don't stay in one), the big space to move about in the country (from Penang to Cameron Highlands, from KL to Desaru, from Malacca to Trengannu, and from Seremban to Genting Highlands). The food is also very good here in KL. I can drive for hours without paying thru my nose. The food is so cheap.

I don't like the crowded spaces in Singapore (all the shops are so crowded), the parking coupons I have to purchase and put on my car every where I park; the charging of entry into the city; the high petrol prices; the high cost of owning homes; the high prices of car; my mee pok is double price in Singapore, and the places to visit are so few. I basically don't like the PAY and PAY (PAP) environment !:D

I enjoy the fishing in Australia; the vineyards, the SPACE, and the climate. Malaysia and Australia are both wonderful places to live !

I've watched not a few badminton tournaments in Malaysia, the most recent being the ABC in nearby JB and the farthest in Alor Star last November. But I have watched more in KL, in Cheras KLBA.

I have driven to many places in Malaysia, including Cameron Highlands and Fraser Hill, when I was much younger and never felt in danger. Naturally I enjoyed myself otherwise I wouldn't have bothered to drive for so long hours to so many places. Like many other Singaporeans, it is also a chance to get out of tiny Singapore, other than taking a tour elsewhere overseas. Also things are relatively cheaper as the Sing dollar is higher in value, unlike before Singapore gained independence when the exchange rate used to be the other way round.

But nowadays my trips up north is mainly by coach. I continue to enjoy myself with the places I visit and the food I take, though in some places, prices are nearly just as high as in Singapore. It is not true that one does not have to pay for using the roads as there are tolls to be paid along the highways.

As for having to pay higher prices, this also depends on supply and demand and the priorities of the country's government. In some countries, prices of goods and services may appear cheaper, but the resident may already have paid heavily upfront in the form of higher direct and indirect taxes.

However there were reports of some unfortunate Singaporeans whose lives were endangered and who received poor treatment at the immigration checkpoints. From time to time, such things do happen anywhere in the world but it is unfair to generalise and stereotype.

So how can anybody accuse me of not liking Malaysia? :rolleyes: To me Malaysians and Singaporeans are not much different. They are only divided by political boundaries. But Malaysians who work in Singapore will certainly enjoy the best of both worlds, provided Singapore continues to make economic headway. ;)

jimbo

04-24-2007, 11:56 PM

To me Malaysians and Singaporeans are not much different. They are only divided by political boundaries. But Malaysians who work in Singapore will certainly enjoy the best of both worlds, provided Singapore continues to make economic headway.

Uncle Loh, are u referring to me taking a free ride from sillyporeland and shaking my retired legs at younger age in MY? :eek: (just pulling ur legs)

So, r u going to watch SG Open on Labor Day? Do I have the honour to go with U? I believe that u have my number, text me ya

Loh

04-25-2007, 12:09 AM

Uncle Loh, are u referring to me taking a free ride from sillyporeland and shaking my retired legs at younger age in MY? :eek: (just pulling ur legs)

So, r u going to watch SG Open on Labor Day? Do I have the honour to go with U? I believe that u have my number, text me ya

Of course I'll be watching the Aviva Open. Oh I've almost forgotten that May 1 is Labour Day, public holiday. Therefore I really have no good excuse not to be there early.

But Jimbo, did I have the privilege of meeting you before? Sorry, I tried but just can't figure out where and when. Do PM me with your hp number so that we can meet up again. :D

jimbo

04-25-2007, 12:16 AM

Of course I'll be watching the Aviva Open. Oh I've almost forgotten that May 1 is Labour Day, public holiday. Therefore I really have no good excuse not to be there early.

But Jimbo, did I have the privilege of meeting you before? Sorry, I tried but just can't figure out where and when. Do PM me with your hp number so that we can meet up again. :D

Uncle Loh, check ur PM. Lets meet up and cheer for Taufik...

wilfredlgf

04-25-2007, 12:25 AM

That's not good - add more fuel to fire, fighhhhhttttt! :)

Loh

04-25-2007, 12:30 AM

That's not good - add more fuel to fire, fighhhhhttttt! :)

Relax Wilfred. :) Give me a chance. I'm greatly disadvantaged by age! ;)

X Ball

04-25-2007, 12:34 AM

Relax Wilfred. :) Give me a chance. I'm greatly disadvantaged by age! ;)

The older you are the more defensive you get !:)

Loh

04-25-2007, 01:10 AM

The older you are the more defensive you get !:)

So by logic, the younger you are the more aggressive you get! I suppose you are in this category.:D

X Ball

04-25-2007, 01:15 AM

So by logic, the younger you are the more aggressive you get! I suppose you are in this category.:D

If only you can translate your verbal energy into a badminton game, I am sure you would beat me.:D Or should I say your incessant energy in retorting us.

Loh

04-25-2007, 01:30 AM

If only you can translate your verbal energy into a badminton game, I am sure you would beat me.:D Or should I say your incessant energy in retorting us.

Wow, your aggressivenes really shows! You instigate, you stir, you add fuel to fire. You assume you can beat me easily in badminton. Sure, but if you are my age and we face each other in the badminton court, it may not be what you think. ;) You don't win on unfair grounds. Pick a man your size, as they say.

Retorting? Surely in a democracy, this is fair play? You put forward something and when it concerns a certain party, surely that concerned party must be given a chance to reply? Worst still if it is a wrong accusation without basis. If it is unanswered, it can mean that the accused party is guilty. ;)

ants

04-25-2007, 02:10 AM

Mmm.. i'm reading a verbal conversations between two young kids getting at each other. :P ehheheh..

ctjcad

04-25-2007, 02:25 AM

..Loh, thanks for sharing more about S'pore and your brief experiences;) ..At least this thread has been an "appetizer" for the upcoming S'pore Open..Keeping us entertained..;) :D :cool:

ants

04-25-2007, 03:27 AM

Loh is well versed about Singapore. I once told him that he can be a Singapore tour guide since he knows so much about his own country.

Loh

04-25-2007, 04:49 AM

I am sorry gents, I know it has gone way off topic here.

However, I need to do something if someone comes pissing around my back yard :) . Peace.

Agreed, Mas have lots to learn from Sing, no question about it. However, Mas is no slouch as well. Humility is very important, you do not turn a factual discussion into a personal attack.

I'm very sorry if you have misunderstood me. There was no intention to put your country in such a bad light as suggested. Certainly no personal attack is intended. As you may know, X Ball, others and I have been entertaining ourselves in this forum. Sometimes our verbal game may have intensified a pitch higher than normal and may have caused undue misunderstandings. Don't be alarmed. We can't do more than expressing our views.

If you ask me, Malaysia is a good example of the three different major races mingling together and living peacefully, despite some differences. There is give and take. This is what Singapore has been trying to do and still seeking answers to many sensitive issues in particular.

Frankly we can all learn the best from each other, certainly not just one way street. This has been Singapore's experience as without natural resources but just human capital, Singapore cannot do it other way. We are just too small to try to act big and boastful, but we need to think big in order to achieve better results. As a small country, unfortunately we have to work much harder than others to achieve the desired results. Otherwise we will sink into oblivion! Others don't owe us a living.

Neither do we want to be bullied just because we are small sized. Indeed humility is a good opener to whatever resources we want to get into. Otherwise, no one will want to help us to progress further. No way can Singapore be bigger than Malaysia, rest assured.

So please don't hold any grudges against me or my country. Our door is always open to those who want to make friends with us and help us grow. As far as I know, Singapore's foreign policy has always been a friend to all as far as possible and an enemy to none. It concerns our very own survival as a small nation. We will try to make living conditions in Singapore as pleasant as possible to the visitor or resident and indeed much has gone into making our environment and public facilities as good as possible and this is a continuing exercise.

So please visit us, even for a short while. You're most welcome! :)

X Ball

04-25-2007, 05:15 AM

Loh, if you are trying to be an ambassador to your country, don't !:) Don't give up your day job, or..............retirement! :) LOL

Loh

04-25-2007, 05:34 AM

Loh, if you are trying to be an ambassador to your country, don't !:) Don't give up your day job, or..............retirement! :) LOL

Well I thought you were selling your country not too long ago when you spoke of some of Malaysia's attractiveness! Aren't you an ambassador of sorts? :D

carine

04-25-2007, 06:25 AM

anyon3 know who is th3 winn3r last y3ar of MS,MD,WS,WD n XD?

wl2172

04-25-2007, 11:38 AM

Hi Loh, it is all cool now, water under the bridge.

I have lots of good things to say about Sing, no doubt. Also, despite being in the UK for the last decade, I go home to KL very often and every single time, I go to Sing to visit my sister. The general feeling i get is it is a good place to be if you are earning an above average wage. Certainly, the stability and safety is great.

In KL, it is also stable, but crime is high because income disparity is quite big, and coupled with illegals who do not have as much to loose as locals, the crime rate is therefore high. Do not underestimate the number of places you can hide in a country like Malaysia, where the borders to Thailand is also very open, criminals can disappear very easily like ghosts, and that's why it is much much harder to nail these guys.

Anyway, I have been to sing about a hundred times, and will continue to go no matter what.

guttayelan

04-25-2007, 12:13 PM

dear players:

this time the top indian players are not allowed to participate in this aviva singapore open by their association which never did good for any players right from its inception...

this has made us more determined to fight this kind of association..

we are fighting and will continue to fight...

pls read this post regularly..

ctjcad

04-25-2007, 12:35 PM

anyon3 know who is th3 winn3r last y3ar of MS,MD,WS,WD n XD?
..you can go here, with pics of the winners on post #62;) :
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33802

Loh

04-25-2007, 08:41 PM

X Ball

04-25-2007, 11:26 PM

Loh, you are a good man. So it is not necessary for me to 'stir up' too much, especially when I incur long replies from you. You enjoy your SIN Open and score new friendships with those attending. If I do make it, I promise to buy you a satay or two (even though it costs me double in Singapore)..hahaha.

wilfredlgf

04-26-2007, 12:48 AM

I think the proper word for to use when describing the crime rate here is 'higher compared to Singapore City' rather than 'high' as it seems to imply that the city is the crime capital of the world without some numbers to back it up. Furthermore it is probably a lot more appropriate to mention that the numbers are higher at urban centres such as KL.

In KL, it is also stable, but crime is high because income disparity is quite big, and coupled with illegals who do not have as much to loose as locals, the crime rate is therefore high. Do not underestimate the number of places you can hide in a country like Malaysia, where the borders to Thailand is also very open, criminals can disappear very easily like ghosts, and that's why it is much much harder to nail these guys.

Well well, we're no different to the United States of A, heh? Mexico, Los Angeles etc...

Malaysia Boleh, I tells yer. ;)

ants

04-26-2007, 02:27 AM

Loh

04-26-2007, 09:56 PM

Singapore is still cheap compare to other countries like Europe , Korea or Japan. But personally i love Singapore and i still love the country. I used to go there every year for Christmas when i was younger.

And Christmas, together with the New Year in Singapore, gets better by the year! Celebration parties and fireworks! :)

Visit our famous Orchard Road during Christmas and you will understand better what I mean. ;)

And during the Christmas and New Year period, the entertainment spots, particularly new ones like The Ministry of Sound and St James Power Station, apart from our world renowed Zouk, Sentosa and the many international hotels, will host numerous colourful and exciting events to spoil the visitor and patron! :D

ants

04-26-2007, 10:14 PM

ctjcad

04-26-2007, 10:33 PM

Well I do agree that Orchard Road looks nice during Xmas. However i realised nowadays the road doesnt look as nice in terms of the decos compare to years ago where it used to look more colorful and Big huge decors.
..even the shopping centers in and around Orchard Rd. are packed wall to wall, esp. @ Takashimaya and those large malls..Some tourists(and even a few of my acquaintances) from other countries, who were spending their Christmas and New Year's holidays in S'pore, even found it difficult to shop and buy any items with the mass of people going elbow to elbow and bumper to bumper, rushing in & out with their purchases; some even complained as most of the items they were looking to purchase were either gone or been left with nothing much to choose from...One thing they have to say: Christmas & New Year's holiday is definitely not a good time to visit & shop @ Orchard Rd..:eek: :( :p ;)

abedeng

04-26-2007, 10:59 PM

ants

04-26-2007, 11:01 PM

Loh

04-26-2007, 11:23 PM

We do have the Reverse Bungy Jump at one end of Clarke Quay, next to the Singapore River.

Clarke Quay has been transformed from old warehouses and two-and-three-storey shophouses into a rather pleasant and exciting entertainment hub, complemented with both indoor and outdoor eateries alongside the Singapore river. "Outdoors" may not be the best word to describe it now as the rows of open lanes and streets within its compound are now covered by giant hi-tec transparent umbrellas to shut out the sun and rain and to keep the place comfortable with cool air and mist emitted from time to time.

A new music, bar and wine joint,The Ministry of Sound which occupies a relatively large space, will tantalized the eyes with its ambience and psychedelic lighting treatment within, not unlike that for the now defunct Crazy Horse that stood just a short distance away at the beginning of the year. I dare say Clarke Quay has now surpasssed even Boat Quay further up the river for its entertainment, alfresco dining and general atmosphere.

But there is also Robertson Quay, from similar humble beginnings as both Boat and Clarke Quays, which forms the third part of the Singapore River further inwards that will also be given the same facelift. Time will tell how RQ will turn out to be! Hopefully, it will be slightly different with unique niches to fill.

Now Singapore is no more dull and grey. It will be alive, vibrant and active with the young and matured enjoying themselves in the evenings, particularly after a hard day's work! :)

Loh

04-26-2007, 11:32 PM

Ah, but you guys are shopping for the "wrong" things, things that everyone else wants. I go to SG often too, with my auto club mates, we congregate at spare parts shops (cheaper than MY even after conversion) n mingle with our SG brethen often.

Just returned from the "Phantom" experience .....

Do you mean "Phantom of the Opera" that Broadway musical still showing at the Esplanade? I was there last Friday. ;)

On second thoughts, I don't think you mean that.

Loh

04-26-2007, 11:36 PM

..even the shopping centers in and around Orchard Rd. are packed wall to wall, esp. @ Takashimaya and those large malls..Some tourists(and even a few of my acquaintances) from other countries, who were spending their Christmas and New Year's holidays in S'pore, even found it difficult to shop and buy any items with the mass of people going elbow to elbow and bumper to bumper, rushing in & out with their purchases; some even complained as most of the items they were looking to purchase were either gone or been left with nothing much to choose from...One thing they have to say: Christmas & New Year's holiday is definitely not a good time to visit & shop @ Orchard Rd..:eek: :( :p ;)

Didn't I tell you physical size is a problem in tiny Singapore?
But I'm sure the owners don't mind such scenes repeating year after year and the registers go on ringing incessantly! :D :p :)

Loh

04-26-2007, 11:40 PM

U had a ride in the New Rolls Royce? or the Old Bentely? I love their on board sound system and the Champagne cabinet. HEhe too bad i'm not an Auto car person. Just like cars but no knowledge in them. hehehe..

Well Singapore is going to have its F1 racing to complement Malaysia's and Autralias's. I'm sure motor enthusiasts like abendeng will welcome it! And XBall must come more often to Singapore to find real gems at even lower prices than in Malaysia, as abendeng has managed to do! ;)

Yet another reason to visit Singapore! :D

Loh

04-26-2007, 11:42 PM

Well I do agree that Orchard Road looks nice during Xmas. However i realised nowadays the road doesnt look as nice in terms of the decos compare to years ago where it used to look more colorful and Big huge decors.

Yeah I also like the decos of past years better. But then this year they may come up with something more agreeable...hopefully. :cool:

Sealman

04-27-2007, 01:41 AM

Ah, but you guys are shopping for the "wrong" things, things that everyone else wants. I go to SG often too, with my auto club mates, we congregate at spare parts shops (cheaper than MY even after conversion) n mingle with our SG brethen often.

abedeng, do you join the car races held at National Stadium Carpark (next to Singapore Indoor Stadium)? The next session is on Sunday May 20, 2007. Expect to see lots of Evos and WRXs there (not forgetting the race queens) :D
http://www.mptmotor.com/events.htm

jimbo

04-27-2007, 02:26 AM

Yet another reason to visit Singapore! :D

Uncle Loh aka SG ambassador, wat time r u gonna be at Kallang on May 1st? I think it's only qualifying rounds, so no "superstars" on courts. :crying:

Loh

04-27-2007, 02:38 AM

Uncle Loh aka SG ambassador, wat time r u gonna be at Kallang on May 1st? I think it's only qualifying rounds, so no "superstars" on courts. :crying:

Yeah what do you suggest?

Who are the names worth watching for. Details? :D

jimbo

04-27-2007, 03:04 AM

Yeah what do you suggest?

Who are the names worth watching for. Details? :D

Uncle Loh, I dont have the schedule for the qualifying rounds. I'll check out with my frens and text u to confirm. If no big names worth watching, we go down and play lor.... :D

Sealman

04-27-2007, 03:39 AM

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/matches.aspx?id=14406&day=114409

A number of the Singapore players have to play in the qualifying rounds eg. Fu Mingtian, Gu Juan, Ricky, Chayut etc.

Other familiar faces playing in the qualifying rounds:

Zhou Mi (Hong Kong) - WS
Cheng Shao Chieh (Taiwan top womens singles player) - WS
Wong Choon Hann (Malaysia) - MS
Kuan Beng Hong (Malaysia) - MS
Nguyen Tien Minh (Vietnam) - MS - top vietnamese player, lost to Susilo in Round 3 last year
Sigit Budiarto (Indonesia) - MD - My Idol :D
Zhang Jun (China) - MD
Zheng Bo (China) - MD
Xie Zhongbo - (China) - MD
Sudket (Thailand) - MD
Jens Ericksen (Sweden) - XD

abedeng

04-27-2007, 03:50 AM

Do you mean "Phantom of the Opera" that Broadway musical still showing at the Esplanade? I was there last Friday. ;)

On second thoughts, I don't think you mean that.

Yeah, good thing we had a public holiday yesterday, so I needed to only take one day off .....

Apparently, quite a number of my friends went too, met a few of them.

Sorry Antz, don't think I'm high and mighty enough to hitch a ride on the other "Phantom" ....

Loh

04-27-2007, 03:54 AM

jermaine

04-27-2007, 06:41 AM

Yeah what do you suggest?

Who are the names worth watching for. Details? :D

LIN DAN OF COURSE>... he didnt come for 2 years... I MISS HIM hahaha
any kind soul please inform me the time when lin dan match starts .. because i have school and i really cannot do anything about it..:confused:

im really desprate to watch lin dan play all his matches especially.. haizz:crying:

ctjcad

04-27-2007, 04:52 PM

LIN DAN OF COURSE>... he didnt come for 2 years... I MISS HIM hahaha
any kind soul please inform me the time when lin dan match starts .. because i have school and i really cannot do anything about it..:confused:

im really desprate to watch lin dan play all his matches especially.. haizz:crying:
..he came in 2005?:confused: ..But I believe he lost to Taufik in the Semifinal, which i also witnessed..;)

pjswift

04-28-2007, 01:30 AM

Yeah what do you suggest?

Who are the names worth watching for. Details? :D
If you have the contacts,Loh, maybe you can convey these queries:
1. Why can't they schedule TWO days for qualifying like the SWO 07 and what IO07 is doing?

The hallmark of a good tournament is when well fought matches are maximised and that should include giving qualifiers a chance of playing well in the main draw instead of being half dead in the 1st round esp. MS.

Simon Santoso might not have made it to the finals if the Swiss had not taken the trouble to spread qualifying over two days. (I'm glad hcyong suggested the idea) And they were rewarded for their efforts in fair play: The MSF was watchable and decent quality.(Compared to AE07 MSF ;totally unwatchable and effectively a waste of time.)
2. Why are the 2nd and 3rd MS qualifying matches so close?The winners may have only one hour rest in between.Shouldn't they schedule the 3rd MS as the last matches of the day?

Loh

04-29-2007, 10:09 PM

If you have the contacts,Loh, maybe you can convey these queries:
1. Why can't they schedule TWO days for qualifying like the SWO 07 and what IO07 is doing?

The hallmark of a good tournament is when well fought matches are maximised and that should include giving qualifiers a chance of playing well in the main draw instead of being half dead in the 1st round esp. MS.

Simon Santoso might not have made it to the finals if the Swiss had not taken the trouble to spread qualifying over two days. (I'm glad hcyong suggested the idea) And they were rewarded for their efforts in fair play: The MSF was watchable and decent quality.(Compared to AE07 MSF ;totally unwatchable and effectively a waste of time.)

2. Why are the 2nd and 3rd MS qualifying matches so close?The winners may have only one hour rest in between.Shouldn't they schedule the 3rd MS as the last matches of the day?

I agree with you that the qualifiers are not given much of a chance with the exception of Simon so far. For that, Simon has proven himself and justified for entering the main draw direct for future SS, unless he makes a blunder along the way.

It could be the time and cost factor that the organisers are not willing to extend the qualifying period to two days. Maybe just a question of economics. Quite understandably, they want to concentrate on the main draw where the big stars are scheduled to play. The qualifying rounds serve as avenues for the lesser players to make some headway. It is not the main stage where most interest (including fans, sponsorship and media) is attracted, so I presume qualifiers are less important to the organizers.

But at least qualifiers are given a chance to prove themselves just as Simon did. To ask for more qualifying days so that they may have more time to rest may not gel well with teh organisers.

But it is sad to see Wong Choong Han still struggling to raise his ranking to be
admitted direct to the main draw. Wonder how WCH will fare this time in the SO. Admittedly, standards are relatively higher even in the qualifiers.

Han

04-30-2007, 01:04 AM

It's a Super Series(SS) so qualification round certainly will not be a main attraction. I love SS as excitement starts from round 1, however, unfortunately Chinese still dominate in SF and Final.

indra

04-30-2007, 01:32 AM

I love SS as excitement starts from round 1, however, unfortunately Chinese still dominate in SF and Final.

Not this time ...especially in MS...

Loh

04-30-2007, 02:18 AM

Not this time ...especially in MS...

I suppose the Chinese may dominate in the sense that they may have more numbers getting into the SF and F when we consider all five events taken together. They will certainly be dominant in the womens events.

But Malaysia has signalled their seriousness in putting up a good show when they sent in a huge contingent, I believe surpassing all other countries. They will be strongest in MD, which may mean that the Chinese will not be represented in the Final if they cannot overcome the Malaysians, Indonesians or Danes on their journey.

The likelihood of TH versus LD in the MS final looms high. Still the Chinese are very strong in this category.

In that sense, the Chinese will still dominate I suppose.

But we will be rooting for upsets, upsets, upsets! :D

badMania

04-30-2007, 03:24 AM

Loh

04-30-2007, 03:37 AM

Finally, I am able to confirm that I will be able to make it for the Aviva Singapore Open 2007 :D Finished all my work today and since tomorrow is a Labor Day holiday, I will be arriving in SG on Wednesday night and ready to watch the matches from Day 2 onwards (same like last year's) :D

Finally! We look forward to seeing you again. Don't forget our BC Makan 'Besar' Get-together on SF night, Sat, 5th May, at Lau Pa Sat.

This is also an open invitation to all BC members attending the Aviva Open to join us at the LPS. Ants, Terry, et all will be in attendance! :D

badMania

04-30-2007, 03:40 AM

The Pelatnas players BETTER don't disappoint me this year :cool: INA has a good record at the Singapore Open...so...hopefully the trend continues this year.

Loh

04-30-2007, 05:00 AM

Please confirm your attendance below for our Makan Party:

Date: Sat, 5 May, 2007 (Semi-Finals evening)
Venue: Lau Pa Sat (Robinson Rd/Shenton Way)
Time: To meet at LPS about half an hour after the semi-finals matches end.
Transportation: Could BC Members who are driving, please give a lift to those who are not. Please volunteer by informining me at hp 91790791.

Could I just list down some names who would most likely join us. Please add or delete accordingly. But we hope you will consider twice before you delete your name because we want you to be with us. ;)

1.Ants
2.Terry
3. Loh
4. badMania
5. kktan
6. wood_22_chuck
7. magical pheonix
8. kyiyu
9. hFang
10. jimbo
11. Sealman
12. netasia
13. modious
14. storkbill
15. pjswift
16. alfa-2
17. moonsilk
18. abedeng
19. mongoose
20. X Ball

All the Singapore playing group leaders, please nominate your representatives to make it an eventful evening:

1. Bukit Batok (theforceisback)
2. Bukit Gombak/CCK Sports (lightsmash)
3. Hougang (thambest)
4. Jurong (Cengsc)
5. North Int-Adv Group (Iwan)
6. Toa Payoh (surge)

See you guys!:)

carine

04-30-2007, 06:30 AM

can I ask 2moro wat time will start?for malaysia wan?

yuqiu

05-01-2007, 12:29 AM

Singapore Open: Lin Dan cautious about his chances

01/05/07, 10:39:47

http://www.nst.com.my/Tuesday/Sport/20070501075507/insidepix1
It won’t be easy for Lin Dan as the Singapore Open has attracted the best.
WORLD champion Lin Dan is not so sure he can conquer the world at the Aviva Singapore Open Super Series which starts tomorrow at the Indoor Stadium.
Despite the No 1 tag and being the No 1 seed, the Chinese shuttler has spoken about the outside influences which could play a decisive hand in determining who wears the crown.

It's about the wind and the heat too, said Lin Dan, this year’s All-England champion, at yesterday's Press Conference in Singapore.

"South East Asia is always hot and humid and it affects me psychologically. But indoor, they turn on the air conditioning full blast to keep everybody cool which causes a draft in the hall which can be a huge problem," said Lin Dan.

Together with his girlfriend Xie Xinfang, who is also the world's No 1, the pair are looking for a double triumph in Singapore, although publicly they have not admitted so.
"There is no promise made to each other that we will win here. But we have promised each other that we will go out and enjoy Singapore," said Lin Dan.

It won’t be easy for Lin Dan as the Singapore Open has attracted the best.

"It’s a strong field and for me it’s a big challenge to try and win the title," said Lin Dan.

Peter Gade Christensen, the defending champion from Denmark, is also feeling the heat.

At 31, age is no longer on his side and he knows defending the title will be tougher than winning it.

"But I am prepared. Six weeks of training back home has given me a comfortable preparation period and I am ready for the challenge ahead. Of course it doesn’t please me to know that I have to face Indonesia’s Taufik Hidayat in the second round," said Gade, who won the Malaysian Open in January.

But for Taufik, the scenario is so different. So conducive in fact.

"I came ready to win the Singapore crown. Last year was a bit unfortunate that I had to skip the tournament because of injury.

"But I have kept training hard even after winning the Asian crown in Johor Baru two weeks ago with winning the Singapore Open and then the Indonesian Open next week in mind," said Taufik.

So where does that leave Malaysia’s hope Lee Chong Wei?. He did not come for the Press conference which he should have and it was left to Hafiz Hashim, who faces Chong Wei in the first round, to face the questions.

"For me it’s all fair with Chong Wei when we meet in the first round.

"Locally I have never beaten him but in the international arena I have beaten him before. So it’s all fair and square," said Hafiz.

yuqiu

05-01-2007, 12:30 AM

Kien Keat must be level-headed

30/04/07, 11:33:15

By : boopathy@nstp.com.my (K.M.%20Boopathy)

http://www.nst.com.my/Monday/Sport/20070430082421/insidepix1

if he wants to make his critics eat their words, must perform to his best in the Singapore Open which starts tomorrow.
Kien Keat, whose prima donna behaviour during the recent Asian Badminton Championships in Johor Baru, riled national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky, who as a deterrent, put the shuttler through several punishments.

This included covering 50 laps of a 200-metre track which lasted almost two hours, and extra training drills which Kien Keat completed without complaining.

Kien Keat, after a shoddy performance in Johor Baru where he and partner Tan Boon Heong were beaten by compatriots Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah for the title, said he would show his true ability in Singapore and it’s no secret he is targeting the title.

When Kien Keat-Boon Heong lost to Lee Jae Jin-Hwang Ji Man in the team semi-finals against South Korea in the Doha Asian Games in December (where Malaysia lost 3-1), a fed-up Rexy threatened to quit and that got the Malaysian pair back to their best again.
Kien Keat-Boon Heong responded by winning the Asian Games gold medal — a first for Malaysia in 36 years — without dropping a game.

Kien Keat, on that occasion, was the one who made the difference with his experience and again showed he can be relied on when the pair won the All England title last month.

National chief coach Yap Kim Hock, who had coached Kien Keat earlier in his career, said the shuttler is a natural fighter and has the ability to bounce back strongly when the odds are against him.

"I can see him (Kien Keat) making a strong impact in the Singapore Open. His focus might drift at times but he has the ability to regain his composure very quickly," said Kim Hock yesterday.

"It is his desire to take on the opposition and perform at the highest level that had helped them to win consistently. We can expect Kien Keat to rise to the occasion again."

"Rexy has done a good job of disciplining Kien Keat and he has realised his mistakes. We can expect something special from Kien Keat and Boon Heong again," added Kim Hock.

This being the case, the top pairs at the Singapore Open will have to watch out for Kien Keat who will be keen to prove he is world class and that the Johor Baru episode was a hiccup. The pair’s prime target remains the Olympic gold medal in Beijing next year.

Winning the Singapore Open will restore the public’s faith in Kien Keat-Boon Heong, but more importantly it will help them earn a top four seeding in the World Championships in August and, eventually, becoming the World No 1.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong have a tricky opening match against compatriots Fairuzizuan Tazari-Zakry Latif, which they are expected to win, and then have Eng Hian-Rian Sukmawan of Indonesia to deal with in the second round.

Assuming they progress, they meet Indonesia’s joint third seeds Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan in the last eight and a win will pit them against second-seeded Danes Jens Eriksen-Martin Lundgaard Hansen in the semi-finals.

The Malaysian pair have beaten them all and if Kien Keat can contain his sometimes over-eager play and remain focused, another title is as good as in the bag.

huangkwokhau

05-02-2007, 07:26 PM

Kien Keat must be level-headed

30/04/07, 11:33:15

By : boopathy@nstp.com.my

http://www.nst.com.my/Monday/Sport/20070430082421/insidepix1

if he wants to make his critics eat their words, must perform to his best in the Singapore Open which starts tomorrow.
Kien Keat, whose prima donna behaviour during the recent Asian Badminton Championships in Johor Baru, riled national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky, who as a deterrent, put the shuttler through several punishments.

This included covering 50 laps of a 200-metre track which lasted almost two hours, and extra training drills which Kien Keat completed without complaining.

Kien Keat, after a shoddy performance in Johor Baru where he and partner Tan Boon Heong were beaten by compatriots Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah for the title, said he would show his true ability in Singapore and it’s no secret he is targeting the title.

When Kien Keat-Boon Heong lost to Lee Jae Jin-Hwang Ji Man in the team semi-finals against South Korea in the Doha Asian Games in December (where Malaysia lost 3-1), a fed-up Rexy threatened to quit and that got the Malaysian pair back to their best again.
Kien Keat-Boon Heong responded by winning the Asian Games gold medal — a first for Malaysia in 36 years — without dropping a game.

Kien Keat, on that occasion, was the one who made the difference with his experience and again showed he can be relied on when the pair won the All England title last month.

National chief coach Yap Kim Hock, who had coached Kien Keat earlier in his career, said the shuttler is a natural fighter and has the ability to bounce back strongly when the odds are against him.

"I can see him (Kien Keat) making a strong impact in the Singapore Open. His focus might drift at times but he has the ability to regain his composure very quickly," said Kim Hock yesterday.

"It is his desire to take on the opposition and perform at the highest level that had helped them to win consistently. We can expect Kien Keat to rise to the occasion again."

"Rexy has done a good job of disciplining Kien Keat and he has realised his mistakes. We can expect something special from Kien Keat and Boon Heong again," added Kim Hock.

This being the case, the top pairs at the Singapore Open will have to watch out for Kien Keat who will be keen to prove he is world class and that the Johor Baru episode was a hiccup. The pair’s prime target remains the Olympic gold medal in Beijing next year.

Winning the Singapore Open will restore the public’s faith in Kien Keat-Boon Heong, but more importantly it will help them earn a top four seeding in the World Championships in August and, eventually, becoming the World No 1.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong have a tricky opening match against compatriots Fairuzizuan Tazari-Zakry Latif, which they are expected to win, and then have Eng Hian-Rian Sukmawan of Indonesia to deal with in the second round.

Assuming they progress, they meet Indonesia’s joint third seeds Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan in the last eight and a win will pit them against second-seeded Danes Jens Eriksen-Martin Lundgaard Hansen in the semi-finals.

The Malaysian pair have beaten them all and if Kien Keat can contain his sometimes over-eager play and remain focused, another title is as good as in the bag.

Hope KKK/TBH will not get another punishment....especially losing to team mates.....good chance for Indonesian or korean doubles to advance futher....

abedeng

05-03-2007, 07:17 PM

Sealman, missed your posting. Did u mean the carpark rallies? I came to a few in the 90s, now the only thing worth watching is F1, things get more interesting with many young pretenders this season.

Can't wait to see S'pore's F1 Street Circuit Race soon. If the deal goes through, where will it be held?

Anyway, will be in S'pore for q-finals and semis, but cannot stay until Final Day.

Dimplex

05-03-2007, 07:53 PM

X Ball

05-03-2007, 08:18 PM

i dont know if someone has alread mentioned this but i couldnt help noticing the singaporean MS players doing quite well!
Kendrick Lee (Sin) bt Chen Jin (Chn) 16-21, 21-16, 23-21
Ronald Susilo (Sin) bt Sony Dwi Kuncoro (Ina) 21-13, 21-10

also the imported player Huang Chia-Chi (Aus) bt Xu Huaiwen (Ger) 21-10, 21-13

I think there are huge incentives to do well from Singapore Badminton Association and from AVIVA, the sponsor. It goes to prove my point a person can be motivated to go the extra mile.

Loh

05-03-2007, 09:55 PM

I was there to watch our two Singaporean MS players in action, Kendrick Lee and Ronald Susilo.

They have proved their critics wrong by putting up a splendid show against two highly respected opponents. Especially Kendrick, who came from behind to snatch a last minute victory over the highly ranked Chen Jin who is seeded #3 in this tournament. Kendrick employed the right tactics in the second and final games by keeping the shuttle low as far as possible and not allowing Chen Jin the freedom to smash it down as he did so well in the first game.

There is one guy in this forum by the name of Tommy something (probably an Indonesian residing in the UK) who used to make fun of, and pass unkind remarks on, Kendrick at every opportunity. I hope he gives Kendrick some respect from now onwards and stop his uncalled-for irritations.

Ronald is another example of a man of determination and courage, like Wong Choong Hann of Malaysia, who suffered the same fate of having their Achilles tendon injured. Before them is the great Dane, Peter Gade, who suffered the same injury two or three years earlier and who put up such a commanding display against Taufik Hidayat yesterday. Sony Kuncoro who defeated Chen Hong a day before found no answers to Ronald's steady play as the straight games score of 21-13, 21-10 revealed. Ronald was determined to return every shot from Sony and defended very well, leaving Sony exasperated most times.

Coincidentally, both Ronald and WCH advanced to the quarter finals deservedly. Singapore did better by having two MS in the QF as opposed to Malaysia's one from WCH. WCH disposed of Japan's No.1, Shoji Sato 21-16, 21-18, His compatriot Hafiz, who knocked out LCW in a close match in R1 was unable to repeat his success against Boonsak Ponsana of Thailand and lost timidly, 21-14, 21-13.

Whilst WCH will have a decidedly harder task against Chen Yu today, Ronald will meet compatriot Kendrick. Though Ronald is still affected somewhat mentally by his unfortuate injury during the last WC in Anahiem, his experience may prove decisive against Kendrick. Whatever the outcome, Singapore will have a representative in the MS semi-finals. :)

jimbo

05-04-2007, 12:13 AM

It was thrilling to watch Taufik vs Gade last nite. Both players deserved loud applauds from the fans who came for the "match of the nite". It was unbelievable to see them retrieved those deadly shots and as far as skills are concerned, there's nothing to seperate them. The result does not reflect the true color of the game, coz it was a very intensed and high speed game with few amazing trick shots by both players. In the end, Gade prevailed due to less unforced errors. Give Taufik full credits coz he did his best and played a very high energy game. Congrats to Gade, and hope to see Gade vs LD in the final.

After watching most of the MS games, IMHO, I can conclude that there are only three players (LD, Taufik n Gade) on their own league, and the rest are doing the catching up. CJ didnt impress me, neither did the local lads.

For MD, the top seed didnt impress me as well. I was watching closely for the Chandra/Tony vs China pair. Chandra/Tony thrashed them and never a doubt in my mind that they would go on and win SG Open if they maintain the same performance.

jimbo

05-04-2007, 12:20 AM

X Ball

05-04-2007, 12:53 AM

I was so dissapointed to watch the Mr.Yoyo aka Hafiz vs Boonsak match. Yoyo played badly and his movement on the court seemed "heavy". Boonsak aint a good player, and I tot Yoyo could "eat" him and progress to the next round. Very sad to see my fellow kelantanse played at such a low level game. After beating LCW, I tot he had regained his fitness and confidence, and on the trail for another All England title, but alas, I was damn stupid to believe his remarks after beating LCW.

I am pretty sure his heaviness was a result of his 3 sets with LCW. Hafiz does not have inner strength, either he eats too much of the wrong food or he is not putting effort in his stamina workouts. He needs to go jogging often.

ctjcad

05-05-2007, 04:13 AM

There is one guy in this forum by the name of Tommy something (probably an Indonesian residing in the UK) who used to make fun of, and pass unkind remarks on, Kendrick at every opportunity. I hope he gives Kendrick some respect from now onwards and stop his uncalled-for irritations.
..Loh, i think you must be referring to Tommy Susanto (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=14153). Yeah, he's from London, as that's what's stated on his profile..But i think he was just teasing, eventhough a bit on the harsh side..:p

aznjjchan

05-05-2007, 10:15 AM

roller

05-05-2007, 05:33 PM

I have been pondering, for these superseries events. what is the cost to be an audience of these live events? and for tickets, is it like an all day pass , where you can just stay there and watch. is there specific seating? are the tickets valid for only one match? like how and what are the tickets sold by?

aznjjchan, here's more info on the Singapore Open tickets and tournament schedule. You can either buy a one-day ticket or season pass for normal/premium seats (free seating). You can purchase the tickets online or at the ticketing booth located at the Singapore Indoor Stadium (SIS).

http://www.singaporebadmintonopen.com/en/tickets/?sec=119&ssec=322
http://www.singaporebadmintonopen.com/en/home/?sec=125&ssec=331

chickenpoodle

05-05-2007, 08:49 PM

This included covering 50 laps of a 200-metre track which lasted almost two hours

i don't see how a 10 kilometer run would take kkk almost two hours to complete. that is absolutely rediculous unless he is very out of shape. and we all know that kkk being out of shape is horribly untrue.

and i dont' see how running 10 kilometers is a punishment. its not an outrageous distance at all!

the news guys got it wrong...

cooler

05-05-2007, 09:19 PM

I am pretty sure his heaviness was a result of his 3 sets with LCW. Hafiz does not have inner strength, either he eats too much of the wrong food or he is not putting effort in his stamina workouts. He needs to go jogging often.
too bad misbun didnt employ the LYB rule, hafiz must yield to lcw since lcw won the first game. Instead, hafiz blew his energy beating lcw and has nothing left for later :p

X Ball

05-05-2007, 11:40 PM

too bad misbun didnt employ the LYB rule, hafiz must yield to lcw since lcw won the first game. Instead, hafiz blew his energy beating lcw and has nothing left for later :p

Precisely, thanks for echoing my statement !:D

kimpe_bultang

05-11-2007, 03:45 AM

Aviva S'pore Open... LOL!! Most of the INA players come to the hall in SLIPPERS!! Salute to them!! Especially, Flandy, Sigit n Fran that in the end influenced Nova to wear slippers too.... -_-"

yannie

05-11-2007, 04:41 AM

Aviva S'pore Open... LOL!! Most of the INA players come to the hall in SLIPPERS!! Salute to them!! Especially, Flandy, Sigit n Fran that in the end influenced Nova to wear slippers too.... -_-"

They all bought SLIPPERS on discount!!!

kimpe_bultang

05-12-2007, 01:12 AM

Maybe it was the hotel's slippers???? LMAO!!! So embarrasing.. Champions with no money... :D

ants

05-12-2007, 02:17 AM

Those are expensive slippers called Havaianas. :)

kimpe_bultang

05-12-2007, 02:20 AM

LMAO!! What the.. You actually asked them?? LOLz... Still, it's so funny.. Indo's tradition.. Come in slippers.. :p :D

yannie

05-12-2007, 05:21 AM

Never thought ants will pay attention to players' footwear.. LMAO!!!

Blurry D

03-05-2008, 02:46 AM

Haha haivannas are super comfy okay...they are one of the best slippers...

Oldhand

03-05-2008, 03:16 AM

They are flipflops
The popular brand is Brazil's Havaianas :)

Cengsc

05-21-2008, 09:25 AM

modious

05-22-2008, 12:52 AM

now then i see this post, sorry for missing out this as i seldom come in this thread...

Please confirm your attendance below for our Makan Party:

Date: Sat, 5 May, 2007 (Semi-Finals evening)
Venue: Lau Pa Sat (Robinson Rd/Shenton Way)
Time: To meet at LPS about half an hour after the semi-finals matches end.
Transportation: Could BC Members who are driving, please give a lift to those who are not. Please volunteer by informining me at hp 91790791.

Could I just list down some names who would most likely join us. Please add or delete accordingly. But we hope you will consider twice before you delete your name because we want you to be with us. ;)

1.Ants
2.Terry
3. Loh
4. badMania
5. kktan
6. wood_22_chuck
7. magical pheonix
8. kyiyu
9. hFang
10. jimbo
11. Sealman
12. netasia
13. modious
14. storkbill
15. pjswift
16. alfa-2
17. moonsilk
18. abedeng
19. mongoose
20. X Ball

All the Singapore playing group leaders, please nominate your representatives to make it an eventful evening:

1. Bukit Batok (theforceisback)
2. Bukit Gombak/CCK Sports (lightsmash)
3. Hougang (thambest)
4. Jurong (Cengsc)
5. North Int-Adv Group (Iwan)
6. Toa Payoh (surge)

See you guys!:)

Oh dear..... my name in there too! I missed this thread last year. :o

This year perhaps? Should we include a badminton session as well? :D