Draw is out

[hcyong]

http://www.badmintonasia.org/attachment/Yonex-Sunrise%20Badminton%20Asia%20Championships%202007_ Draw_2nd%20April.xls

Chen Jin is not in the draw. LCW is top seed but slated to meet Taufik in the QF. Chen Hong is second seed.

[hcyong]

If Malaysia wins the MD, I will not shave my head bald.

[Dreamzz]

hahaha, indeed, MD looks kinda boring this year, it'll be a shocker if one of the MAS pairs doesn't win it.

for MS, slightly more interesting, i would say LCW has the advantage since it's homeground and he always does well with home crowd support. it won't be an easy ride for him though, Ng Wei in 3rd round, TH in QF, CY in SF and possibly CH in F (although i hope Simon makes it in the bottom half).

[Jessica]

Well,i think this is a tough challenge for LCW.If he can beat all the opponent and win this title,he will be coming back.Hope he can do well.

[cheeyf]

thanks hcyong
haha
ya md a bit boring with less challenges.
mas should win MD cos many other top pairs didnt join and they have 4 seeded pairs. i thought the old combination MD is playing in ABC but it shows the new combination here.
ws and ms seems interesting. hope wmc can make it to final to meet wang chen again.hehe.
tough one for lcw.taufik is there to stop him :(
i hope wch win against simon this time. donno why they always meet each other early.haha.
i also read that ceh may skip ABC from nst. nway wish them all the best and ceh get fully well soon.

Eei Hui could miss ABC meet

WOMEN’S doubles Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui may not get the chance to repeat their fabulous All England run in the Asian Badminton Championships (ABC) in Johor Baru on April 10-15.


Eei Hui is nursing a right ankle injury and women’s doubles coach Cheah Soon Kit said she might have to give the ABC a miss.

"Eei Hui is nursing an ankle injury, and we have referred her to the National Sports Council (NSC). We are awaiting the outcome," said Soon Kit yesterday.

Ranked World No 6, Pei Tty-Eei Hui made the semi-finals of the All England earlier this month and Soon Kit reckons the pair are finally beginning to deliver.



While they have maintained their world ranking in the top 10, the pair have not made much headway in terms of honours on the World stage.

But the All England run, said Soon Kit, would have boosted their confidence.

"They have what it takes to be there. The main objective is the Olympics and if they can’t play in the ABC, they will shift their focus to the Singapore and Indonesia Opens."

The Singapore and Indonesia Opens, in May, are the first two tournaments offering qualifying points for the Beijing Olympics.

[tjl_vanguard]

MD draw is TOOOOOO one-sided... all MAS pairs are seeded EXCEPT CCE/HCH...

[tjl_vanguard]

i think LCW will have a hard time in Johor... but i think he can overcome it IF he can win TH... CY n CH i think LCW has a big chance of winning dem.. but still......

[sickgal]

looks like a hard parth for LCW to win the title!!!

anyway!! lcw jia you!

[X Ball]

I disagree that LCW has a tough draw. Ng Wei has not been a real threat for a long time; TH needs to a couple of tournaments to get fit again no matter what anyone says (you cannot be match fit if you have not played in the last two tournaments); and Chen Yu is not as dangerous as Chen Jin (and if LCW regains form, Chen Yu will lose to LCW).

If LCW does not get to the Final, then I think it would be easy to write him off after this. He is fighting fit having trained keenly from what I have heard. So expect him to let loose and not fancy free--he is out to win !

[volcom]

LCW has been no match for Chen Yu in the new scoring system, expect another disatrous defeat if he faces him in the semi finals.
But I doubt he'll get pass Taufik Hidayat who has complete mental advantage of the mentally fragile LCW.

[tjl_vanguard]

I disagree that LCW has a tough draw. Ng Wei has not been a real threat for a long time; TH needs to a couple of tournaments to get fit again no matter what anyone says (you cannot be match fit if you have not played in the last two tournaments); and Chen Yu is not as dangerous as Chen Jin (and if LCW regains form, Chen Yu will lose to LCW).

If LCW does not get to the Final, then I think it would be easy to write him off after this. He is fighting fit having trained keenly from what I have heard. So expect him to let loose and not fancy free--he is out to win !
its still hard to put things tat way... anything might happen...:D

[phaarix]

X Ball: So you're saying his draw is quite easy :)? I'm not sure many people would agree there. He can win it sure, but it'll be hard fought if he does. I don't think Chen Yu is really any less dangerous than Chen Jin right now. He beat CJ at the AE just recently. And while it took Chen Jin 3 sets to beat LCW, CY beat him in two. I'm not saying that Chen Yu is better than Chen Jin (as you can't really compare 2 players by the outcome of a few matches) but you shouldn't judge him too lightly. Though I agree that an on form LCW should beat CY (even then though you can't expect a player to win everytime no matter how good they are). It just remains to be seen whether or not this will be the LCW that shows up this time.

Taufik's rarely that well prepared for tournaments lately anyway so I don't think we'll see a huge difference with him. I certainly wouldn't write off LCW if he doesn't make the final here. That's a lot of pressure on LCW, especially considering his draw. If he could just make any final he wanted whenever he wanted he'd be the best player in the world for sure. I know all too well the kind of situation he's in right now. You can't just get back on track immediately, it does take time and we've seen what LCW is capable of when he is on form. Although it would be great to see the old LCW show up at this tournament I don't mind if we have to wait a little longer. He'll be ready when he's ready.

[badMania]

An interesting field in the MD, with Yoga Ukikasah/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuji, Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan and Rendra Wijaya/Devin Lahardi (new pair) being tested here. No signs of the Djarum pairs Rian Sukmawan/Eng Hian or Sigit Budiarto/Frans Kurniawan.

In the WD and XD, Lita Nurlita/Nathalia Poluakan, Nitya Krishinda/Nadya Melati, Lingga/Nitya Krishinda, and Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita will have their chances to get some experience as well.

There are indeed many young INA players for the singles event: Tommy Sugiarto, Alamsyah Yunus, Andreas Adityawarman, Indra Bagus, and Bandar Sigit Pamungkas in the MS; Aprilia Yuswandari and Pia Zebadiah have to go through the qualifiers first. Taufik Hidayat and Simon Santoso; Maria Kristin, Adrianti Firdasari and Fransisca Ratnasari complete the squad.

[X Ball]

X Ball: So you're saying his draw is quite easy :)? I'm not sure many people would agree there. He can win it sure, but it'll be hard fought if he does. I don't think Chen Yu is really any less dangerous than Chen Jin right now. He beat CJ at the AE just recently. And while it took Chen Jin 3 sets to beat LCW, CY beat him in two. I'm not saying that Chen Yu is better than Chen Jin (as you can't really compare 2 players by the outcome of a few matches) but you shouldn't judge him too lightly. Though I agree that an on form LCW should beat CY (even then though you can't expect a player to win everytime no matter how good they are). It just remains to be seen whether or not this will be the LCW that shows up this time.

Taufik's rarely that well prepared for tournaments lately anyway so I don't think we'll see a huge difference with him. I certainly wouldn't write off LCW if he doesn't make the final here. That's a lot of pressure on LCW, especially considering his draw. If he could just make any final he wanted whenever he wanted he'd be the best player in the world for sure. I know all too well the kind of situation he's in right now. You can't just get back on track immediately, it does take time and we've seen what LCW is capable of when he is on form. Although it would be great to see the old LCW show up at this tournament I don't mind if we have to wait a little longer. He'll be ready when he's ready.

I did not say it is quite easy --- I said it is not tough.;) And I agree with your comment that one can't just get back on track immediately, and as such I think Taufik will struggle a bit because after his Asiad win, he lost heart, and he missed the next two tournaments (AE and Swiss). Taufik will take a tournament of to ease back in. Don't expect too much from the guy.

And I think LCW has trained on well even though he switched switch - all for the better I assure you.

[K Genetics]

Malaysia has a good draw in MD, I guess dominating the MD final is the main task for MD team.

[phaarix]

I did not say it is quite easy --- I said it is not tough.;) And I agree with your comment that one can't just get back on track immediately, and as such I think Taufik will struggle a bit because after his Asiad win, he lost heart, and he missed the next two tournaments (AE and Swiss). Taufik will take a tournament of to ease back in. Don't expect too much from the guy.

And I think LCW has trained on well even though he switched switch - all for the better I assure you.
I really hope LCW can win this tournament :). I will be cheering for him! I agree with your comment in another thread about LCW's decision to train under Misbun. If he thinks that's what is best for his game then I don't think it's up to us to argue against his decision. We should trust LCW :D. Give him some time and see how it works out first.

There are many juniors I recognise from World Juniors last year in the main draw. It should be interesting to see how they do. Tommy Sugiarto has done quite well in recent tournaments by the looks of it.

[JaCk™]

LCW has the mental block against TH. Even though TH 'might' not be well prepared physically, somehow LCW lost to TH in terms of mentality.

[ixory]

LCW Jia You...Jia You,find back ur confident !!!WMC Jia You..Jia You
Agreed, MD is little bit boring...

[phaarix]

LCW has the mental block against TH. Even though TH 'might' not be well prepared physically, somehow LCW lost to TH in terms of mentality.
Yeah that is mainly what makes me think he will have a very tough time against Taufik. He lost quite badly to him the last few times they met and I don't think LCW will be very confident going into a match against him.

Edit: And I suppose the QF will not be televised either? I still haven't actually seen LCW vs TH at all...

[Chu Liuxiang]

LCW has been no match for Chen Yu in the new scoring system, expect another disatrous defeat if he faces him in the semi finals.
But I doubt he'll get pass Taufik Hidayat who has complete mental advantage of the mentally fragile LCW.

Chen Yu should expect a tough openning match against Korean Park Tae Sang. If I am not mistaken, Park Tae Sang was the player who defeated Bao Chunlai in straight games during 2004 Athen Olympics Games. I won't be surprise if Park beat another Chinese player especially if Chen Yu has not completely recovered from his injury.

[indra]

http://www.badmintonasia.org/attachment/Yonex-Sunrise%20Badminton%20Asia%20Championships%202007_ Draw_2nd%20April.xls

Chen Jin is not in the draw. LCW is top seed but slated to meet Taufik in the QF. Chen Hong is second seed.

MS Yonex-Sunrise Badminton Asia Championships 2007 10th - 15th April 2007, Johor Bharu IDCnty 150152MASLee Chong Wei [1] LCW253319KORHwang Jung Woon 38166PHIAsuncion Kennevic CL 475787CHNChen Long LCW59662HKGNg Wei [9/16] Ng 654234INABagus Indra 7 Ms Qualifier 7 DPN 854655VIEDuong Phoung Nam Taufik910337INAHidayat Taufik [5/8] Taufik 1015419JPNSaeki Koichi Taufik 1114004SRIKarunaratne Niluka KN 1254667VIEDuong Bao Duc Taufik 139567MASAyob Sairul Amar [9/16] ASA 1414611CHNGong Weijie 1552773KORLee Cheol Ho LCH 1651507TPEKuo Ting Hao Taufik1750931CHNChen Yu [3/4]CY 1811703KORPark Tae Sang CY 1915751TPEHsieh Yu Hsing Tommy 2014587INASugiarto Tommy CY 2151310INDSridhar Anup [9/16] SA 22 Ms Qualifer 8 SA 2351056THASapkulchananart Poompat SI 245559MASSaman Ismail MHR 2550658JPNSato Shoji [5/8] SS 2654966SRIMenaka Lasitha SS 2714107VIENguyen Tien Minh NTM 28 Ms Qualifier 1 MHR 297790MASHashim Muhd. Roslin [9/16] HMR 3015810INAAdityawarman Andreas MHR 3110183KORShon Seung Mo SSM 32 Ms Qualifier 3 Simon/Taufik (either) 3363707JPNTago Kenichi TK 3453500VIENguyen Hoang Hai YKB 3551610TPELin Tsung Han YKB 3610302MASYeoh Kay Bin [9/16] Bonsak 3751325KORAhn Hyun Suk 3850546IRIMehrabi Kaveh PB 3914614CHNYou Hao 4011959THAPonsana Boonsak [5/8] HMH 4115342INDSingh Ravinder 4252229SRIKarunaratne Dinuka CYK 4314553INAYunus Alamsyah 4451306HKGChan Yan Kit [9/16] HMH 4553935CHNLu Qicheng 46 Ms Qualifier 2 HMH 4753856KORHong Ji Hoon 4812370MASHashim Muhd. Hafiz [3/4] 4954244INAPamungkas Bandar Sigit Simon 5054660VIENguyen Hoang Nam LTS 51 Ms Qualifier 5 529166MASLee Tsuen Seng [9/16] PSH 53 Ms Qualifier 4 5410966JPNNakanishi Yousuke PSH 5515759TPELiu Chih Lun 5651324KORPark Sung Hwan [5/8] Simon574240MASWong Choon Hann 5850283TPELiao Sheng Shiun SS 59 Ms Qualifier 6 6051599INASantoso Simon [9/16] Simon6142757VIENguyen Ngoc Tung 6251598INDPawar Anand CH6354346KORShon Wan Ho CH649689CHNChen Hong [2]

[tjl_vanguard]

yo indra... waaaa very susah wan read lar!!! haha :D

[CLELY]

Unfavourable drawing for LCW as top-seed, really2 huge trouble against TH in QF and tricky CY at last four en route to finale. Difficult to defend his title particularly in effort to bring back self-confidence. TH is strong-fave to win here without CHN top-3 attendance or maybe CH as surprising entrance (have no idea about CH mission back to bdm court).

ABC is the right place for Asian newcomers to gain some experiences but obviously not prestigious/important championship for elite players unless they want to increase ranking-point such as TH and LCW.

[alfa-2]

every good MD is missing in action except for KKK/TBH who will b there to pick up some ranking points. sad.......

[PlayaFromMalaya]

all malaysian mens doubles semifinals! hope CCM/HTH can meet KKK/TBH in the final..will be interesting

[Kamen]

for LCW, i dont think the draw matters. LCW biggest enemy is not Chen Yu, Chen Jin, Taufik or Chen Hong.

LCW biggest enemy now is LCW himself!

[volcom]

If he had a devastating smash in his artillery, he could be so much better.
He can;t finish rallies with convincing kills out of nowhere

[alfa-2]

LCW's biggest enemy is Misbun......:D :D :D :D sure kena sabo by Misbunone........

like in the olden days where the sifu teach the disciple the wrong way of kung fu until the disciple becomes crazy.......thats the punishment for leaving Misbun for LM years ago. hahahaha..........:D :D :D :D nice.

[X Ball]

for LCW, i dont think the draw matters. LCW biggest enemy is not Chen Yu, Chen Jin, Taufik or Chen Hong.

LCW biggest enemy now is LCW himself!

True, if he can conquer his own fears he can conquer his opponents -- he has the weapons which he showed us before when he beat LD and all the Chinese players.

[JaCk™]

the outcome of LCW vs TH will prove whether LCW is gaining back his confidence. if not, the World Championship is out of reach for LCW.

[Han]

for LCW, i dont think the draw matters. LCW biggest enemy is not Chen Yu, Chen Jin, Taufik or Chen Hong.

LCW biggest enemy now is LCW himself!

Very true, not sure why BAM agreed with his changing "see fu"(master) from Tat Ming back to Misbun. Is like the Tofu(I meant Kungfu), use to learn from "Shoaling" and now back to "Eer Mei" ... I am afraid CW has gone into the dark side :D

[tjl_vanguard]

It doesn matter if the dark side can "resurrect" him again in JB later.. haha

[Loh]

It doesn matter if the dark side can "resurrect" him again in JB later.. haha

Dark side very, very dangerous! :( Sometimes an overdose can bring great harm to oneself! :rolleyes:

[tjl_vanguard]

Dark side very, very dangerous! :( Sometimes an overdose can bring great harm to oneself! :rolleyes:
like how??? maybe give a little example?? :D

[Loh]

like how??? maybe give a little example?? :D

I think Han can give a better example since he was referring to two different styles of Chinese martial art forms.

Don't know whether you watched some of these Chinese kungfu movies which often end up with the evil doers being punished, sometimes by their own doing or overdoing! :D

[tjl_vanguard]

I think Han can give a better example since he was referring to two different styles of Chinese martial art forms.

Don't know whether you watched some of these Chinese kungfu movies which often end up with the evil doers being punished, sometimes by their own doing or overdoing! :D
so we're goin back in time??? watch waD? drunken master??? haha :D

[tjl_vanguard]

Very true, not sure why BAM agreed with his changing "see fu"(master) from Tat Ming back to Misbun. Is like the Tofu(I meant Kungfu), use to learn from "Shoaling" and now back to "Eer Mei" ... I am afraid CW has gone into the dark side :D
correct me if im wrong.... isnt Er Mei meant for gals only rite?

[volcom]

Er Mei, Wu Dang, Shaolin, Hengshan, Huashan

[JaCk™]

Er Mei, Wu Dang, Shaolin, Hengshan, Huashan

Not including Songshan?? or it's fictitious??

[Han]

correct me if im wrong.... isnt Er Mei meant for gals only rite?

Now we really worry :D

[alfa-2]

I disagree that LCW has a tough draw. Ng Wei has not been a real threat for a long time; TH needs to a couple of tournaments to get fit again no matter what anyone says (you cannot be match fit if you have not played in the last two tournaments); and Chen Yu is not as dangerous as Chen Jin (and if LCW regains form, Chen Yu will lose to LCW).

If LCW does not get to the Final, then I think it would be easy to write him off after this. He is fighting fit having trained keenly from what I have heard. So expect him to let loose and not fancy free--he is out to win !

then i think LCW will be mostly officially off then......it's good that LCW has a passionate supporter like u (i am too) but if u could just see all these from a different angle. It is not right to say that TH wouldnt be fit after skipping 2 tournaments. Someone who could win Olympic Gold n has beaten LD isnt that simple. Even when TH wasnt that fit at Asiad, he still managed to beat LD or at least give LD a hell of a time before losing it at the group events.

Yes, LCW might be training very hard as what you have possibly heard, but who knows TH wont be doing the same thing too? Mind the last 2 matches between 2 of them, where LCW lost tamely in straight sets.

[alfa-2]

Very true, not sure why BAM agreed with his changing "see fu"(master) from Tat Ming back to Misbun. Is like the Tofu(I meant Kungfu), use to learn from "Shoaling" and now back to "Eer Mei" ... I am afraid CW has gone into the dark side :D

turn to the dark side of the power.......for better or worse??

[alfa-2]

so we're goin back in time??? watch waD? drunken master??? haha :D

not drunken master....but more to star wars. remember ANAKIN SKYWALKER?

[black_knight006]

hahaha, indeed, MD looks kinda boring this year, it'll be a shocker if one of the MAS pairs doesn't win it.

for MS, slightly more interesting, i would say LCW has the advantage since it's homeground and he always does well with home crowd support. it won't be an easy ride for him though, Ng Wei in 3rd round, TH in QF, CY in SF and possibly CH in F (although i hope Simon makes it in the bottom half).


HAHAHA...LCW is far far too inconsistant to pull it off. My money is on Taufik Vs. CH in the final, however I hope as well that SS pulls off a win or two! But yah, with the results that LCW has been pulling lately it wont happen!:cool:

[black_knight006]

LCW has the mental block against TH. Even though TH 'might' not be well prepared physically, somehow LCW lost to TH in terms of mentality.

You'd better believe it. Watch the final of the 2004 olympics. The entire game TH is completely unemotional. He's almost in a spell, can't be rattled, (unless its a bad line call:p ), and then when he wins he's like a completely different person...its kinda cool actually. He just went nuts when he won the gold medal!! He's a great mental player! The Tiger Woods of badminton!:D

[JaCk™]

You'd better believe it. Watch the final of the 2004 olympics. The entire game TH is completely unemotional. He's almost in a spell, can't be rattled, (unless its a bad line call:p ), and then when he wins he's like a completely different person...its kinda cool actually. He just went nuts when he won the gold medal!! He's a great mental player! The Tiger Woods of badminton!:D

even Lin Dan frooze during the Asian Games singles final although he held the match point. in the end, Taufik caught up and won. but it the final was dragged to 3 games, Lin Dan will have the upperhand.

[darkhorse78]

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[X Ball]

HAHAHA...LCW is far far too inconsistant to pull it off. My money is on Taufik Vs. CH in the final, however I hope as well that SS pulls off a win or two! But yah, with the results that LCW has been pulling lately it wont happen!:cool:

As much as you think you are right, I think you are wrong this time. As I said many times, TH does not have enough preparation for this and the same goes for CH. The players have been close with their games so no one can 'wing it' without putting in the 'mileage'. Unfortunately, LCW has done more mileage than the other two this time.

Please note I am not prejudiced against TH or CH, both are very good when they have done the mileage. But not this time.

[X Ball]

then i think LCW will be mostly officially off then......it's good that LCW has a passionate supporter like u (i am too) but if u could just see all these from a different angle. It is not right to say that TH wouldnt be fit after skipping 2 tournaments. Someone who could win Olympic Gold n has beaten LD isnt that simple. Even when TH wasnt that fit at Asiad, he still managed to beat LD or at least give LD a hell of a time before losing it at the group events.

Yes, LCW might be training very hard as what you have possibly heard, but who knows TH wont be doing the same thing too? Mind the last 2 matches between 2 of them, where LCW lost tamely in straight sets.

Before the Asiad, TH was losing in the early rounds in several tournaments (after the Indonesian Open) because he tuned himself off. For the Asiad Singles, he trained and played hard in the two tournaments leading to the Asiad, and that got him the Asiad -- in other words, he tuned himself in a couple of tournaments to get fit. Anway, no use arguing with me, time will tell whether you should listen to me or I to you !:D

[JaCk™]

most importantly, we should not judge from the ABC results. everyone of us is looking at the Olympics next year. that is the biggest achievement for any player. it apply to LCW, KKK/TBH too. they are not truly champions unless they win the Olympic gold medal. so, we shall wait for the big thing next year. be patient. whoever wins the gold medal will shut off any criticism.

[X Ball]

most importantly, we should not judge from the ABC results. everyone of us is looking at the Olympics next year. that is the biggest achievement for any player. it apply to LCW, KKK/TBH too. they are not truly champions unless they win the Olympic gold medal. so, we shall wait for the big thing next year. be patient. whoever wins the gold medal will shut off any criticism.

We are not questioning that. All we are postulating here is the ABC champion -- i.e. who will be.