vagpwner
04-03-2007, 05:01 AM
10 and 10 is such a ripoff. They quoted me 230 for an At700. Go classic sports instead.
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View Full Version : 10 & 10 ripoff. vagpwner 04-03-2007, 05:01 AM 10 and 10 is such a ripoff. They quoted me 230 for an At700. Go classic sports instead. -Silver- 04-03-2007, 06:55 AM yes, we all know that classic has the best offering price. But why create such thread :confused: vagpwner 04-03-2007, 08:14 AM Cuz you can get At700 for 225 at world of sports storkbill 04-03-2007, 08:34 AM Cuz you can get At700 for 225 at world of sports OH NO! I WAS CHEATED OF $5 which represents umm 2% price difference. Nothing better to post? :p vagpwner 04-03-2007, 08:37 AM Well 230 you can get an AT800 no? chgoh25 04-03-2007, 08:47 AM is the at700 the old version? vagpwner 04-03-2007, 09:18 AM new version lol chgoh25 04-03-2007, 09:21 AM haa. i see lol vagpwner 04-03-2007, 09:24 AM And btw stork. you can get an at700 for 200-210. isnt 30-20 bucks a significant amount? jtzx1999 04-03-2007, 09:36 AM dude... u know wad. frm my experince. if u going to the shop its best to let yr friend who buy lotts things frm them to company them.. if its yr friend introdu to u the shop, the boss will discount for u alot de. he see wad kinnde customer and quote the price de.. u can try the music and sport shop on level 2 also.. reasonble pricez.. Dummey 04-03-2007, 02:31 PM And btw stork. you can get an at700 for 200-210. isnt 30-20 bucks a significant amount? Depends on the service and who you are buying it from. I personally would rather pay an extra 20-30 to buy from a store I trust/like then save the money and buy from someplace else. modious 04-03-2007, 09:39 PM Classic Sports has very good customer / stringing services + their prices are very reasonable compared to others. Linus 04-03-2007, 11:23 PM I think 'rip-off' is too strong a word to use here. Some shops quote a price and expect their customers to bargain. 10&10 does that, and so are the shops in Queensway Shopping Centres. If I would not want to bargain or do not like the "final" offer price, I would just walk off. It is the shop who lose out not me. What we have in the market in Singapore is the ceiling price, which is the RRP (recommended retail price) as is found in Sportslink, World of Sports etc. That is the bench mark we use knowing we can get lower than that from the non-official retailers. But then no one can dictate how much lower we can get. It's up to the shop as seller to offer and we as the buyer to accept. LouisW 04-04-2007, 12:35 AM But If you compare 10/10 with those shop at Queensway, what 10/10 offered is still reasonable and acceptable services. However, the current shop keeper like to boot-licking. Oooops jtzx1999 04-04-2007, 04:27 AM iszt?? he does boot lick?? does he do that? vagpwner 04-04-2007, 07:43 AM Well he seemed quite unreasonable. I went to the sports and music shop. Quoted me 205. jtzx1999 04-04-2007, 07:46 AM yea. tats why after my first racket from there, i condem that shop. i went to sintec shop instead. at tampanis, the shop keeper is much better! no stress when i enter his shop. vagpwner 04-04-2007, 08:04 AM Ahh. Well ranking sports also no good. The man quoted me 210 for, get this, AT500!!! wtf I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A 700 FOR LESS. jtzx1999 04-04-2007, 08:09 AM u can try sintec shop.. very good service. Cheung 04-04-2007, 08:13 AM Ahh. Well ranking sports also no good. The man quoted me 210 for, get this, AT500!!! wtf I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A 700 FOR LESS.So? What's your point? If you don't like the price, don't buy at all. The shop isn't forcing you to buy. You have a choice not to buy or get the AT700. What's the point of this thread? This is simple market theory that even children can understand. vagpwner 04-04-2007, 08:18 AM Seriously, if i offered you a cab 8 at 500 USD would you still buy it? Point of this thread is to outline the connivery that goes on behind the screens and forewarn potential buyers. Perhaps one such as yourself would think that theres no need to calumniate the shops' reputation but then on the other hand wouldnt it be better to inform potential buyers? It would surely obviate the risk of them being scammed. vagpwner 04-04-2007, 08:22 AM oh. Well i actually prefer yonex jerby 04-04-2007, 10:05 AM if you don't like the price, don't buy....why post their prices on the internet? How are you helping out other potential buyers other than exclaiming "that's too much" "this is a rippoff" etc etc.... being a sorta-shop owner myself (co-star actually) it's very frustrating to find people trashtalking your shop on the internet...surely you didn't rant like this in the owners face, did you? either way, still best of luck racketshopping!:o -Silver- 04-04-2007, 10:20 AM if you don't like the price, don't buy....why post their prices on the internet? How are you helping out other potential buyers other than exclaiming "that's too much" "this is a rippoff" etc etc.... being a sorta-shop owner myself (co-star actually) it's very frustrating to find people trashtalking your shop on the internet...surely you didn't rant like this in the owners face, did you? either way, still best of luck racketshopping!:o Cool down man!:p Maybe he very bored and created the thread on this.:o jerby 04-04-2007, 10:22 AM sorry, what? I am calm:confused: no really, I am:o I guess emotions don't run well via a TV screen;) :D ahh well, another excuse to use more smileys:D :p ;) :D :) (;) ) Cheung 04-04-2007, 11:09 AM Seriously, if i offered you a cab 8 at 500 USD would you still buy it? Point of this thread is to outline the connivery that goes on behind the screens and forewarn potential buyers. Perhaps one such as yourself would think that theres no need to calumniate the shops' reputation but then on the other hand wouldnt it be better to inform potential buyers? It would surely obviate the risk of them being scammed. "behind the screens"...can I just clarify one thing. The price that this shop quotes for the racquet. Is that displayed? Are there any hidden 'extra charges' or conversely, any 'freebies'? vagpwner 04-05-2007, 04:26 AM Well the mere fact that he presents different prices for people who look poor and ppl who look rich qualifies for that. Or is that, in your eyes, standard modus operandi for shopowners? vagpwner 04-05-2007, 04:27 AM if you don't like the price, don't buy....why post their prices on the internet? How are you helping out other potential buyers other than exclaiming "that's too much" "this is a rippoff" etc etc.... being a sorta-shop owner myself (co-star actually) it's very frustrating to find people trashtalking your shop on the internet...surely you didn't rant like this in the owners face, did you? either way, still best of luck racketshopping!:o Well i did say exorbitant price in his face. Anyway since you are a shopowner wouldnt you think it ridiculous to offer a price higher than the one in major sports chains? jerby 04-05-2007, 08:00 AM Well i did say exorbitant price in his face. Anyway since you are a shopowner wouldnt you think it ridiculous to offer a price higher than the one in major sports chains? well, in my situation it would indeed be. But if you have an actual (concrete) store, and low output. he hás to raise his prices in order to keep his head abvoe the water... the different-price-for-different-people thing is ridiculous, in Holland at least... maybe shopping in Asia is different:p:o vagpwner 04-05-2007, 08:10 AM Shopping is the same worldwide. Its all about the matter of finding the right price at the right time. Sealman 04-05-2007, 10:08 AM Ahh. Well ranking sports also no good. The man quoted me 210 for, get this, AT500!!! wtf I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A 700 FOR LESS. Are you sure its Ranking Sports? There is no male salesperson selling rackets at Ranking Sports. storkbill 04-05-2007, 10:58 AM Ahh. Well ranking sports also no good. The man quoted me 210 for, get this, AT500!!! wtf I COULD HAVE GOTTEN A 700 FOR LESS. Yeah, I've never seen a male salesperson in the badminton/sports section. Maybe you were talking to a customer and thought he was the shop assistant :p I think you give all of them the impression that you are actually not interested in buying (and guess what they are right, you just want to find out their price so you can post "I WAS CHEATED OF $5!!!! on BC) so they just quote you their 'list price'. If you already know that Classic Sport has the best price (since you have read all the previous threads in BC), why bother to look around further? Must everyone charge as low as Classic Sport, especially since Classic is in an out of the way place where rents are cheaper. Sorry, but you sound like a student with no idea of how the business world operates or how pricing works if you think that a shop in the CENTRAL BUSINESS DISTRICT where rents are high must have the same price as a shop in an out of the way place. -Silver- 04-05-2007, 11:03 AM If the service is gd i wont mind paying slightly more money. Like Sintec shop, the stringer and the boss is so frenly. ;) To me, I willing to pay more for it's service and attitude. Even is a extra $20, i treat it as a tip for them for serving me patiently and politely (spelling?):o vagpwner 04-05-2007, 09:13 PM oh sorry it was an auntie vagpwner 04-05-2007, 09:15 PM Surely you do realise that bras basah complex is old and the rents there are fairy low. Even if you claim it is high it cant be higher than the World of sports outlets in shopping malls vagpwner 04-05-2007, 09:18 PM and it wasnt 5bucks. it was more of 20-30 bucks vagpwner 04-05-2007, 09:19 PM If the service is gd i wont mind paying slightly more money. Like Sintec shop, the stringer and the boss is so frenly. ;) To me, I willing to pay more for it's service and attitude. Even is a extra $20, i treat it as a tip for them for serving me patiently and politely (spelling?):o of course if the service is good then why not. However the 10 and 10 man gave me a black face. So rude. Arief 04-12-2007, 02:05 AM Surely you do realise that bras basah complex is old and the rents there are fairy low. Even if you claim it is high it cant be higher than the World of sports outlets in shopping malls I believe the rent in Bras Basah is quite high. furthermore, u can't compare them to World of Sports simply by the amount of rentals. They are big retailers, can't compare to 10 n 10. their structure is different. see why sometimes Carrefour can sell cheaper stuffs than small shops at HDB blocks? imagine if u open a shop. wouldn't u want to get as high profit as possible? I mean, he gave u the price of $230 for AT700. u can bargain right? U can even ask if there's any gift, because usually they do give you free bag etc. even if he won't lower his price, u have the option not to buy from that shop. don't expect every sellers to give you best price (which means lower profit for them). if u don't like the price, simply don't buy. this is how simply the market works. the truth is there're still a lot of ppl who buy from 10 n 10. the price they quoted u is not ridiculously expensive right? if u prefer other shop's service, then go to that shop u prefer. simple. vagpwner 04-12-2007, 02:35 AM I believe the rent in Bras Basah is quite high. furthermore, u can't compare them to World of Sports simply by the amount of rentals. They are big retailers, can't compare to 10 n 10. their structure is different. see why sometimes Carrefour can sell cheaper stuffs than small shops at HDB blocks? imagine if u open a shop. wouldn't u want to get as high profit as possible? I mean, he gave u the price of $230 for AT700. u can bargain right? U can even ask if there's any gift, because usually they do give you free bag etc. even if he won't lower his price, u have the option not to buy from that shop. don't expect every sellers to give you best price (which means lower profit for them). if u don't like the price, simply don't buy. this is how simply the market works. the truth is there're still a lot of ppl who buy from 10 n 10. the price they quoted u is not ridiculously expensive right? if u prefer other shop's service, then go to that shop u prefer. simple. Well if 30 bucks extra is not ridiculously expensive then what is? Dude, this is racket sales. Not car-buying. with 45 bucks more you can get a NS9k you know? Arief 04-12-2007, 02:45 AM Well if 30 bucks extra is not ridiculously expensive then what is? Dude, this is racket sales. Not car-buying. with 45 bucks more you can get a NS9k you know? try Yonex shop at far east plaza. that's what I called ridiculously expensive. like I said, u can bargain the price, and if u can't get a suitable one, simply don't buy from there. like I said, don't expect every sellers to give you their lowest price. try to position urself in the seller's shoes vagpwner 04-12-2007, 02:53 AM try Yonex shop at far east plaza. that's what I called ridiculously expensive. like I said, u can bargain the price, and if u can't get a suitable one, simply don't buy from there. like I said, don't expect every sellers to give you their lowest price. try to position urself in the seller's shoes Well you do know that that shop sells at the RRP which happens to be the same price as World of Sports. And World of sports sells At700 for 225. Now 230 is expensive isnt it? Noobsmash 04-12-2007, 03:24 AM Are the yonex rackets at Far east plaza JP or SP coded? modious 04-12-2007, 05:04 AM YY rackets sold in Singapore shops are all SP coded. Unless the shop imports the rackets from Japan themselves.... which I've not heard or seen of so far. Dreamzz 04-12-2007, 05:10 AM YY rackets sold in Singapore shops are all SP coded. Unless the shop imports the rackets from Japan themselves.... which I've not heard or seen of so far. i thought some shops there sell TH coded racquets as well. modious 04-12-2007, 05:46 AM Oh yes, some shops do sell TH coded rackets. Forgotten about that bcos the shops I normally purchase my racket from don't sell TH. :o Noobsmash 04-12-2007, 10:08 AM which shops sells TH?any quality difference? modious 04-12-2007, 11:21 PM quality difference is subjective...... Music Book Room used to sell TH rackets but they're no longer sell badminton rackets. 1 shop in Queensway also sold TH rackets b4. Which shops are selling TH rackets now, I don't know. llpjlau 04-17-2007, 09:57 AM i assume that shop owners also are highly bias on their prices? it depends, they may give lower prices to some and higher to others. the best is to ask nicely, bargain nicely, and if he/she starts getting impatient (you can sense it cant you?) then don't buy from them. but sometimes good service deserves the reward too. don't be so stingy with your money... sometimes you just have to pay that extra. vagpwner 04-18-2007, 03:47 AM i assume that shop owners also are highly bias on their prices? it depends, they may give lower prices to some and higher to others. the best is to ask nicely, bargain nicely, and if he/she starts getting impatient (you can sense it cant you?) then don't buy from them. but sometimes good service deserves the reward too. don't be so stingy with your money... sometimes you just have to pay that extra. Of course of course.. but as i have stated earlier.. the man wore a black face.. :( llpjlau 04-18-2007, 04:32 AM ya, then you shouldn't buy from him if you don't want to. i myself hate shopkeepers like that too. vagpwner 04-18-2007, 06:06 AM ya, then you shouldn't buy from him if you don't want to. i myself hate shopkeepers like that too. Well i didnt. Went to a shop with a reasonable price :D llpjlau 04-18-2007, 08:02 AM which one? also in bras basah? vagpwner 04-19-2007, 04:54 AM yeah just above. the music and sports one llpjlau 04-19-2007, 05:08 AM music book room ? Noobsmash 04-19-2007, 07:12 AM I think its Ranking sports if i am nt wrong.=) vagpwner 04-19-2007, 07:33 AM naw not ranking the shop the same level as ranking. 3rd flr. ranking didnt have stock vagpwner 04-19-2007, 07:34 AM music book room ? forgot the name. You may be right ((= llpjlau 04-19-2007, 07:52 AM what racket did u buy btw? -Silver- 04-19-2007, 10:37 AM naw not ranking the shop the same level as ranking. 3rd flr. ranking didnt have stock It's Zenith shop. vagpwner 04-19-2007, 11:07 AM Run by an old lady and old man. I bought an at700 Noobsmash 04-19-2007, 08:24 PM how much did u pay for it? thinking of getting one too. AshawayX 11-26-2007, 08:22 AM Actually, my experience with 10 & 10 has been very good. Ah Song, the man there isn't that friendly but Amy, the lady and the mother of my fellow badminton friend, is a really nice, patient and friendly lady. She was willing to make phone calls to check when stock was coming when I wanted to get 15 pairs of SHB 100s. Her stringing is also first-class to me. I'm playing competitive badminton now and her stringing is accurate to me. Not sure about the guy's stringing though but Amy is to me, an excellent stringer and a just as good shopkeeper. shawn30_k 11-26-2007, 09:45 AM Well well seems like there's some unhappy people. Let me share my experience with this shop. Firstly you've got to have close relations with the people working there. They have a standard price list of every racket and thus they quote $20-30 higher than normal. But what really pisses me off is that their prices never seem to drop at all. A year ago, 1 guy called david i think who is not working there any longer quoted me $64 for a pc998 racket. i was quoted this price because he knew that i know the standard price of the rackets as he remembers me well. i've frequent the shop many times last year. This year however, a random check on the same model by a totally unknown shop assistant quoted me $99.:eek: (How can a very old model racket price increase by so much?) i was guessing the standard price for this racket is in the region of $70. When i told the new shop assistant that if he could sell me at $64 he shot me a black face and told me you can't find it anywhere. So nowadays i don't bother going there any longer. SEcondly a piece of advice for anyone who wants to buy rackets. Apacs rackets all price standard $70 flat any higher means your not a good bargainer.(70 is on the high side btw a good commanding price would be $65-$60) And they also very standard will surely quote you $90 or $99 if you ask them how much. Proace Thunderbolt series $115 any higher means the same as the above. Yonex racket really depends. You've got to do research here before going there to bargain. Protech rackets all price standard $88-$90 any higher means your not cut out to bargain.Their starting quote price should be $112-119 i think, i'm not too sure about this. Y@R@Y 11-28-2007, 04:28 AM Can i know where is Classic Sports?? shanepaul86 11-28-2007, 10:32 AM It is in Toa Payoh Near Braddel MRT station bbenjt 11-30-2007, 02:42 AM do they have Cab 20 sp? Anyone knows what the price is? :) |