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Loh
04-16-2007, 09:37 PM
Bernama.com
Malaysian National News Agency

Sports
April 16, 2007 22:22 PM

By Dan Guan Chin

JOHOR BAHARU, April 16 (Bernama) -- The defeat of reigning All-England champions Koo Kim Keat and Tan Boon Heong in the Asian Badminton Confederation (ABC) Championship here is a lesson to them not to treat their opponents lightly, national chief coach Yap Kim Hock said Monday.

He said the two were still a long way from being at the very top of their game and the learning process was still ongoing.

"So, the defeat to Choong Tan Fook and Lee Wan Wah on Sunday is a lesson for them. It will tell them that they are not invincible and everybody is out to beat them.

"Once you are on the court, all your previous titles don't mean a thing," he told Bernama Monday.

But Yap believes that the young pair will bounce back and go on to conquer the world.

"I'm not offering excuses for them. But after their return from Europe (where they won the All-England and the Swiss Open) their training schedule has been interrupted to a certain extent.

"Maybe they have taken things a bit too lightly. But from now on, it will be serious stuff because there are the two Super series coming up, the Aviva Singapore Open and then the Indonesian Open, followed by the World Championship in Kuala Lumpur," Yap said.

And there will also be hard work ahead for the No 1 singles, Lee Chong Wei.

"He has done all right in JB. But the most important thing is that he is enjoying his training under Misbun Sidek. Chong Wei has what it takes to be a world beater. It's a matter of applying himself to the task ahead," said Yap.

Darien
04-16-2007, 09:58 PM
if they wanted to bounce back, it will takes them tripple harder. every pair out there in the world is going to beat them especially the top Chinese pair. every pair knows they are beatable and can be beaten easily; even CTF/LWW can beat them, why not the others? besides, they found to have a very weak mental strength. forget about Sin and Indo super series. impossible for them to win. we'll have to wait till the World Championship in August. they probably will bounce back in that tournament. but bare in mind, they fail to secure the World Championship, we'll have another case of LeeCW and HafizH. sad to say, that's the trend of Malaysian players.

Loh
04-16-2007, 10:15 PM
if they wanted to bounce back, it will takes them tripple harder. every pair out there in the world is going to beat them especially the top Chinese pair. every pair knows they are beatable and can be beaten easily; even CTF/LWW can beat them, why not the others? besides, they found to have a very weak mental strength. forget about Sin and Indo super series. impossible for them to win. we'll have to wait till the World Championship in August. they probably will bounce back in that tournament. but bare in mind, (if) they fail to secure the World Championship, we'll have another case of LeeCW and HafizH. sad to say, that's the trend of Malaysian players.

X Ball will not allow this to happen! ;)

Felicia_txh
04-16-2007, 11:00 PM
if they wanted to bounce back, it will takes them tripple harder. every pair out there in the world is going to beat them especially the top Chinese pair. every pair knows they are beatable and can be beaten easily; even CTF/LWW can beat them, why not the others? besides, they found to have a very weak mental strength. forget about Sin and Indo super series. impossible for them to win. we'll have to wait till the World Championship in August. they probably will bounce back in that tournament. but bare in mind, they fail to secure the World Championship, we'll have another case of LeeCW and HafizH. sad to say, that's the trend of Malaysian players.
CTF n LWW,both of them had gained more experience..but i don think tat KKK n TBH have very weak mental strenght!!they sure wil bounce back..Rexy will not let them to become another LCW n Hafiz!!;)

tjl_vanguard
04-16-2007, 11:06 PM
wont allow what to happen???:confused: :rolleyes:
wont allow tat kkk/tbh's form to drop and join the yoyo club which is apparently chaired by Mr. Hafiz Hashim (MAS) and his Deputy is Mr. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS) and also they are trying to pull Mr. Lee Chong Wei into the World of Badminton Yo-Yo CLub but Mr. X Ball won't all allow that to happen... :D

did i get tat right Loh??? haha cuz i dun even noe wad im talking bout hahaha

tjl_vanguard
04-16-2007, 11:09 PM
CTF n LWW,both of them had gained more experience..but i don think tat KKK n TBH have very weak mental strenght!!they sure wil bounce back..Rexy will not let them to become another LCW n Hafiz!!;)
Nah..... dun have to worry bout that cuz if tat happens, Rexy will be setting fire on the a**es hahahaha..... plus the players are very committed themselves from wad i see.... :D

Loh
04-16-2007, 11:11 PM
wont allow tat kkk/tbh's form to drop and join the yoyo club which is apparently chaired by Mr. Hafiz Hashim (MAS) and his Deputy is Mr. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS) and also they are trying to pull Mr. Lee Chong Wei into the World of Badminton Yo-Yo CLub but Mr. X Ball won't all allow that to happen... :D

did i get tat right Loh??? haha cuz i dun even noe wad im talking bout hahaha

Fantastic! It is as clear as dawn, though a little misty! ;)
Very colourful characters you've included though!

Darien
04-16-2007, 11:21 PM
well, that's my personal opinion anyway. somehow, i still feel that their maturity has not grown much and their play will be more or less affected after their failure in ABC. i would love to see them playing a top pair in future matches. that would fare how much they can bounce back.

OneToughBirdie
04-16-2007, 11:29 PM
X Ball cant do anything also when LCW lost tamely to TH.......:D:D:D:D:D
You are correct...XBall has lost his magic and lost a lunch bet on HH. I would have love to take on XBall bet when he bet HH go to final, except that I am so far away to collect my bet $$$. XBall should not quit his day job any time soon and forget about forecasting, his prediction is out of whacks....hahaha! (just joking)LOL! :D :D :D

tjl_vanguard
04-16-2007, 11:34 PM
You are correct...XBall has lost his magic and lost a lunch bet on HH. I would have love to take on XBall bet when he bet HH go to final, except that I am so far away to collect my bet $$$. XBall should not quit his day job any time soon and forget about forecasting, his prediction is out of whacks....hahaha! (just joking)LOL! :D :D :D
hahaha so its best for to stop forecasting cuz it always go the other way round?? :D:D calgary aint a prob... he can bank in for u cant he?? hahaha

OneToughBirdie
04-16-2007, 11:57 PM
hahaha so its best for to stop forecasting cuz it always go the other way round?? :D:D calgary aint a prob... he can bank in for u cant he?? hahaha
Oh No! forecasting is okay, just do not quit your day time job to go fulltime...hahaha! (actually all in good humour)...add in inflation, you may be correct to bank in the bet for me, that way, a bowl of noodle soup becomes two...hmmm...LOL!:p

sherlyn
04-17-2007, 12:35 AM
wont allow tat kkk/tbh's form to drop and join the yoyo club which is apparently chaired by Mr. Hafiz Hashim (MAS) and his Deputy is Mr. Kuan Beng Hong (MAS) and also they are trying to pull Mr. Lee Chong Wei into the World of Badminton Yo-Yo CLub but Mr. X Ball won't all allow that to happen... :D

did i get tat right Loh??? haha cuz i dun even noe wad im talking bout hahaha
hahahaha....LMAO!!! alfa-2, this is damn funny la..mr yoyo the chairman and kbh the vice!!
i agreed kbh be the vice too...hahahaha
mf/lwf and gtc/zl were almost registered as yoyo member while rexy was juz in time to stop and split them...LOL

ants
04-17-2007, 01:09 AM
Once KKK/TBH is focused.. they can win. They were not focused in the event in JB and still can go finals. But then at the same time they have learned their lesson.

cheongsa
04-17-2007, 01:13 AM
even CTF/LWW can beat them, why not the others?

That's harsh! I watched the videos of their SF in AE07, and F in ABC07, and I would say they played a lot better than last year. Their game has gotten more positive, instead of playing catchup all the time the past two years.

In fact, in the AE07 SF, they could have won in the rubber game, except that luck was on the Danish pair's side.

Of all the MAL pairs, CTF/LWW have the strongest defense, and the strongest smash. They are not as creative as KKK/TBH on court, but their bread-and-butter shots are much much better.

ants
04-17-2007, 01:27 AM
That's harsh! I watched the videos of their SF in AE07, and F in ABC07, and I would say they played a lot better than last year. Their game has gotten more positive, instead of playing catchup all the time the past two years.

In fact, in the AE07 SF, they could have won in the rubber game, except that luck was on the Danish pair's side.

Of all the MAL pairs, CTF/LWW have the strongest defense, and the strongest smash. They are not as creative as KKK/TBH on court, but their bread-and-butter shots are much much better.

Yes i do agree with you on this. They have improved. They are refining their game. Well even if they are old , they still have to learn.

Felicia_txh
04-17-2007, 01:31 AM
That's harsh! I watched the videos of their SF in AE07, and F in ABC07, and I would say they played a lot better than last year. Their game has gotten more positive, instead of playing catchup all the time the past two years.

In fact, in the AE07 SF, they could have won in the rubber game, except that luck was on the Danish pair's side.

Of all the MAL pairs, CTF/LWW have the strongest defense, and the strongest smash. They are not as creative as KKK/TBH on court, but their bread-and-butter shots are much much better.
Erm..anyway i like the smash of KKK n TBH better..I cant deny tat CTF n LWW team is much more stable..one more reason is they hav lack of time to practise b4 ABC so their performance in ABC not good!!

Gaintkiller
04-17-2007, 01:37 AM
Yes i do agree with you on this. They have improved. They are refining their game. Well even if they are old , they still have to learn.

Come on...all about match fixing. Obviously kkk/tbh purposely give them chance win the title. It is a win win situation to let ctf/lwh gain more ranking point. Anyway not a big deal to miss the ABC champ...!!!

Darien
04-17-2007, 01:42 AM
Come on...all about match fixing. Obviously kkk/tbh purposely give them chance win the title. It is a win win situation to let ctf/lwh gain more ranking point. Anyway not a big deal to miss the ABC champ...!!!

haha..maybe maybe...
i do hope it's a match fixing anyway, therefore we can know that KKK/TBH are still at their form of winning :D

Felicia_txh
04-17-2007, 01:46 AM
Come on...all about match fixing. Obviously kkk/tbh purposely give them chance win the title. It is a win win situation to let ctf/lwh gain more ranking point. Anyway not a big deal to miss the ABC champ...!!!
Ya..i feel so cos b4 the match start,most of my frens n relatives say so..;)

kktan
04-17-2007, 02:18 AM
getting to the top... is not as hard as staying there.

their their sake I HOPE THEY DO!!!! YOur'e my heroes.. .

Darien
04-17-2007, 02:19 AM
well, i guess we will have to see how they fare in Sin Open then.... :)
ABC is history...

tjl_vanguard
04-17-2007, 02:48 AM
That's harsh! I watched the videos of their SF in AE07, and F in ABC07, and I would say they played a lot better than last year. Their game has gotten more positive, instead of playing catchup all the time the past two years.

In fact, in the AE07 SF, they could have won in the rubber game, except that luck was on the Danish pair's side.

Of all the MAL pairs, CTF/LWW have the strongest defense, and the strongest smash. They are not as creative as KKK/TBH on court, but their bread-and-butter shots are much much better.
they are still learning actually... like chinese saying "live till old, learn till old"..

they are veterans but that doesn mean that they are invinsible... maybe they are still stepping up this time round and justifying that they are still the best in MSIA :D

Darien
04-17-2007, 03:00 AM
come on, don't be so naive....there will be another early exits for CTF/LWW in Sin Open. hehe....

tjl_vanguard
04-17-2007, 03:13 AM
Oh No! forecasting is okay, just do not quit your day time job to go fulltime...hahaha! (actually all in good humour)...add in inflation, you may be correct to bank in the bet for me, that way, a bowl of noodle soup becomes two...hmmm...LOL!:p
owh.. quitting job and being fulltime forecaster?? might as well go roadside and open a stall and read fortunes for ppl hahaha :D

tjl_vanguard
04-17-2007, 03:28 AM
hey vanguard, we'll see then....hahaha....
BTW, you were right, pessimistic is the correct spelling....:)
so i got an "A" haha... nah was just cracking a joke of ctf/lww winning the title.. it could well happen but still depend on the draw... but MD is a wide open field unline MS... so anything can happen... :D

YellowString
04-17-2007, 03:38 AM
I am sorry as I dont really see KKK/TBH bouncing back. It is wishful thinking to think that they are gonna win the World Championship & the Olympic Gold next year. They just dont have what it takes because of KKK.

Darien
04-17-2007, 03:53 AM
I am sorry as I dont really see KKK/TBH bouncing back. It is wishful thinking to think that they are gonna win the World Championship & the Olympic Gold next year. They just dont have what it takes because of KKK.

me too, i dont think they would bounce back....
LCW said he will bounce back from last year till now, no results..
WongCH said he will bounce back from injuries, couldnt get pass the tourneys' qualifying rounds...
Mal players keep saying they will bounce back or do something to improve, but in the end...'tin kosong'..... :o

KlasseE
04-17-2007, 04:04 AM
As what KKK/TBC had performed in ABC, Rexy is really FOXY!
- Just act like KKK/TBC are no long in good form, ready to join YOYO club
- Let KKK/TBH tried several styles of play. Their enemies had already learnt them thoroughly from recent videos of AE n SO
- Let their enemies confuse and focus more on CTF/LWW

ixory
04-17-2007, 05:18 AM
I believe KKK/TBH will bounce back...;)

X Ball
04-17-2007, 06:13 AM
I am sorry as I dont really see KKK/TBH bouncing back. It is wishful thinking to think that they are gonna win the World Championship & the Olympic Gold next year. They just dont have what it takes because of KKK.

Bet you did not see them winning the All-England and the Swiss Open.

I like to drag you into a challenge that they will rebounce in the Singapore Open - a meal if you lose and I claim it in my next trip to Penang and you claim it on me when you are in KL if you win.

What say you - put your money where your mouth is please !? :D

Dreamzz
04-17-2007, 06:16 AM
Bet you did not see them winning the All-England and the Swiss Open.

I like to drag you into a challenge that they will rebounce in the Singapore Open - a meal if you lose and I claim it in my next trip to Penang and you claim it on me when you are in KL if you win.

What say you - put your money where your mouth is please !? :D

hahaha, what exactly is the bet here, that they win the Sing Open?
what's your definition of bouncing back?

X Ball
04-17-2007, 06:16 AM
me too, i dont think they would bounce back....
LCW said he will bounce back from last year till now, no results..
WongCH said he will bounce back from injuries, couldnt get pass the tourneys' qualifying rounds...
Mal players keep saying they will bounce back or do something to improve, but in the end...'tin kosong'..... :o

I also challenge you for a lunch --- refer my challenge to YellowString. How about it ?

Darien
04-17-2007, 06:18 AM
Bet you did not see them winning the All-England and the Swiss Open.

I like to drag you into a challenge that they will rebounce in the Singapore Open - a meal if you lose and I claim it in my next trip to Penang and you claim it on me when you are in KL if you win.

What say you - put your money where your mouth is please !? :D

X Ball, i would like to challenge you. hahaha...first of all, what type of rebouncing you mean? winning the Singapore Open or just semi-final appearance? if u are saying they will win the Sin Open, i would like to challenge u that they WON'T win! hahahaa....:D

X Ball
04-17-2007, 06:18 AM
hahaha, what exactly is the bet here, that they win the Sing Open?
what's your definition of bouncing back?

A win no less since runners-up (in the ABC) is considered bad.

X Ball
04-17-2007, 06:20 AM
X Ball, i would like to challenge you. hahaha...first of all, what type of rebouncing you mean? winning the Singapore Open or just semi-final appearance? if u are saying they will win the Sin Open, i would like to challenge u that they WON'T win! hahahaa....:D

You are ON ! Send me your mobile via email and I will send mine. If you lose, I will ring you. :D

I am happy to give you guys good odds !

Darien
04-17-2007, 06:49 AM
No lah, that is kiddies' betting. I did not mean go to Pg just to buy lunch for you --- I meant on my next trip (about a Year's time :) --- I just came back from Qing Ming -- stayed at the Northam Suite. hahahaha. I am sure you come to KL more often than me.

haha..ok then, we just stick to the 'turtle' and 'tortoise' thingy....
by the way, the draw for Sin Open is out...
first round KKK/TBH vs Zakry/Fairuz! is that will be another own teammates upset? hehehe...
as for singles' 1st round, LCW vs HH. this is just like all funny stuffs going on...even if LCW wins, he will definately meeting LD in quarter-final...which means will be another quarter-final-dead-end for LCW.

Darien
04-17-2007, 07:01 AM
Were you born on the right side of the bed ?:D I noticed you always hold a negative view of favorite players ?

hmm...i dont know but i have been following Malaysian's badminton since Cheah Soon Kit/Soo Beng Kiang era. they somehow have a typical trend that they wont be top for a period of time. they just cant be like Rexy/ricky, ParkJooBong/KimMS or LiYB,TianYB. Chew Chong Eng/Chan Chong Ming was once WorldNo.1, BUT only for 3 weeks i guess...hahaha:D
i am a MAS of coz i support my own countrymen. but based on reality and fact, i cant lie myself for that. it is just the trend of MAS players which can consider a jinx for the players.

haifeng4ever
04-17-2007, 07:06 AM
I would say KKK/TBH weren't having good record against their own team mates. But they play well against outsiders. Give them a break. It's lonely to be unbeatable.

Darien
04-17-2007, 07:08 AM
Sin Open 1st round, KKK/TBH vs own teammates.....very risky then......

X Ball
04-17-2007, 07:09 AM
I would say KKK/TBH weren't having good record against their own team mates. But they play well against outsiders. Give them a break. It's lonely to be unbeatable.

It is lonelier if you are a loser --- nobody wants to befriend you !:D

Cheung
04-17-2007, 07:48 AM
Discussions on Singapore Open go in this thread.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=42743