2007/04/19

Badminton: Angry Rexy set to punish Kien Keat

(http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)By : K.M. Boopathy

ALL England champions Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong may be dropped from the Indonesian Open as punishment for the former’s prima donna behaviour in last week’s Asian Badminton Championships.
Coach Rexy Mainaky believes failure on his part to punish Kien Keat will have a detrimental effect on the pair in the long run.

"I cannot let Kien Keat off the hook easily. He must be penalised for his attitude and his behaviour in Johor Baru cannot be taken lightly," said Rexy after a training session in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

"If I don’t take any action, it means I condone his actions and Kien Keat may repeat this. I cannot accept my players being arrogant and Kien Keat must realise that he has a massive responsibility on his shoulders.

"This is the pair we are grooming to win the World Championships title (in August) and most importantly, the Olympic gold in Beijing next year.
"The attitude (of players) must be right all the time. This situation should not arise again."

To keep Kien Keat on track, Rexy said the punishment would be something the shuttler despises.

"I want Kien Keat to understand this. His punishment will be something he despises but it will, I hope, stop him from having the wrong attitude."

The lack of quality opposition played a major part in Kien Keat-Boon Heong making the ABC final, which they eventually lost to Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah.

But there were signs earlier that Kien Keat had lost focus and Rexy blew his top after the semi-finals.

The buildup to the ABC had seen both players gracing numerous functions and also stopping by Machap in the heat of the by-election.

While Rexy had no problem with Boon Heong’s performance in Johor Baru, it was obvious that Kien Keat was nowhere near his best.

The pair will compete in the Singapore Open which starts on May 1 but Rexy had something more to share with Kien Keat yesterday.

"Nathan Robertson-Gail Emms’ (mixed doubles pair of England) celebrations extended to three months after they won the World Championships in Madrid last September and they have not won a title since."

Surely, the natural winner that Kien Keat is, he doesn’t want this to happen to him and his partner Boon Heong

good for him.. rexy is just doing his part as a coach....

this will surely be a reminder for kkk not to be too complacent! :D

no body can give the answer why kien kiet behave so unusual this time in abc championship. what happen to him a bit dissapointed lah. but i saw on paper that rexy will be punish him. hope it bring positive effect.

I believe KKK will be back to his real form and believe both of them will learn something from past.Rexy sure know how to handle them.But they can't rely on Rexy all the time.

then we can't see them performing in Indo Open :(

I believe KKK will be back to his real form and believe both of them will learn something from past.Rexy sure know how to handle them.But they can't rely on Rexy all the time.

agree agree....self-grow is important too..:D

I think all are acting only...la. KKK/TBH cannot be losing to CTF/LWW...la.
Maybe they want to increase or maintain their ranking in order for them (CTF/LWW) to qualify for the 2008 Olympic. KKK/TBH is playing the new generation tactics and the shutter speed are very much more faster than CTF/LWW, how can they (C/L) win? :confused:

I think all are acting only...la. KKK/TBH cannot be losing to CTF/LWW...la.
Maybe they want to increase or maintain their ranking in order for them (CTF/LWW) to qualify for the 2008 Olympic. KKK/TBH is playing the new generation tactics and the shutter speed are very much more faster than CTF/LWW, how can they (C/L) win? :confused:

hmm....arguable point there...but what about punishment from Rexy that possibly dropping them from playing in Indo Open? :confused:

I think all are acting only...la. KKK/TBH cannot be losing to CTF/LWW...la.
Maybe they want to increase or maintain their ranking in order for them (CTF/LWW) to qualify for the 2008 Olympic. KKK/TBH is playing the new generation tactics and the shutter speed are very much more faster than CTF/LWW, how can they (C/L) win? :confused:
hey! keep it low... dun let anyone noe k... hahaha :D

I think all are acting only...la. KKK/TBH cannot be losing to CTF/LWW...la.
Maybe they want to increase or maintain their ranking in order for them (CTF/LWW) to qualify for the 2008 Olympic. KKK/TBH is playing the new generation tactics and the shutter speed are very much more faster than CTF/LWW, how can they (C/L) win? :confused:

ABC results don't count towards qualification for Beijing 2008.

ABC results don't count towards qualification for Beijing 2008.
if not mistaken it starts from Singapore Open SS rite?? ABC is only for WC..

if not mistaken it starts from Singapore Open SS rite?? ABC is only for WC..

yes you're right....
since the points to qualify for Olympics are so important, i doubtful Rexy will chop them off from Indo Open.

I think all are acting only...la. KKK/TBH cannot be losing to CTF/LWW...la.
Maybe they want to increase or maintain their ranking in order for them (CTF/LWW) to qualify for the 2008 Olympic. KKK/TBH is playing the new generation tactics and the shutter speed are very much more faster than CTF/LWW, how can they (C/L) win? :confused:

You should watch the video of the match before making comments like this. KKK was clowning around for the whole of game 1, and much of game 2 as well. The two of them (KKK/TBH) played their very efficient and coordinated attacking game only for the first few points of game 2, after that it was down hill all the way.

You should watch the video of the match before making comments like this. KKK was clowning around for the whole of game 1, and much of game 2 as well. The two of them (KKK/TBH) played their very efficient and coordinated attacking game only for the first few points of game 2, after that it was down hill all the way.
he is just trying to be smart by doing fancy fancy shots which at last backfired and shot him back right at the chest n heart... :D *kabOOm*...

Rexy's right to lay down the law. KKK is not serious and has little respect for his opponents once he won a few titles. Very unbecoming of a Malaysian champion:mad:. The smart thing for him to do is to win the bloody game!

woo! drama!!!

Well seems like Rexy is taking the stern approach...

Like they do in Jerry Seinfeld's sitcom...

"NO SOUP FOR YOU!!!"

I support Rexy decision to punish him.He really perform badly in the ABC.Despite of all the comments that he is arrogant or not fit,he still play badly.So,i hope what they face in the ABC will become a lesson to them in the future.Rexy did this for they own good,if he not care about them,he will not be so angry.Hope they will take this as a lesson.

I think KKK is a bit of the playful type, unlike our strict coach Rexy. Although I think Rexy is right in reining in KKK, he must realise that it is not everyone's cup of tea to behave like him.

KKK must learn how to cope living in Rexy's shadow from now on. It may be hard but he must put on a serious face during training. He can still clown around when he is out of training.

For Rexy, he must learn to ease off a bit. He has got a terrific pair in KKK-TBH, the worst thing is to give them the jitters (be so afraid of him that they cannot think properly --- I think LCW is so timid, he started trying to live in Li Mao's shadow (pleasing Li Mao), and forgot all about the fact he is still his own boss (the decisions have to be made by him during the game).

Think about it.

I think KKK is a bit of the playful type, unlike our strict coach Rexy. Although I think Rexy is right in reining in KKK, he must realise that it is not everyone's cup of tea to behave like him.

KKK must now learn how to cope living in Rexy's shadow from now on. It may be hard but he must put on a serious face during training. He can still clown around when he is out of training.

For Rexy, he must learn to ease off a bit. He has got a terrific pair in KKK-TBH, the worst thing is to give them the jitters (be so afraid of him that they cannot think properly --- I think LCW is so timid, he started trying to live in Li Mao's shadow (pleasing Li Mao), and forgot all about that fact he is still his own boss (the decisions have to be made by him during the game).

Think about it.

the worst is....everyone walk their own way...then they all say bye bye to each other....:D

Rexy knows what he's doing. Given KKK's recent conduct and general attitude, Rexy won't have done what he did if KKK's more serious. KKK is nothing comparing to Rexy, he'll remain in Rexy's 'shadow' if he keep up with this nonsense. If Malaysian fans want their favorites to win, they should back up the coach and let the pros do their jobs. You don't sayang them to victory:rolleyes:.

KKK's a pro, he should act like one.


For Rexy, he must learn to ease off a bit. He has got a terrific pair in KKK-TBH, the worst thing is to give them the jitters (be so afraid of him that they cannot think properly --- I think LCW is so timid, he started trying to live in Li Mao's shadow (pleasing Li Mao), and forgot all about that fact he is still his own boss (the decisions have to be made by him during the game).

Think about it.

Nah, the worst is Malaysia goes back to becoming the so-called 'powerhouse' it was:rolleyes:.

the worst is....everyone walk their own way...then they all say bye bye to each other....:D

Nah, the worst is Malaysia goes back to becoming the so-called 'powerhouse' it was:rolleyes:.

err..excuse me, what is 'powerhouse' means? :D

Rexy knows what he's doing. Given KKK's recent conduct and general attitude, Rexy won't have done what he did if KKK's more serious. KKK is nothing comparing to Rexy, he'll remain in Rexy's 'shadow' if he keep up with this nonsense. If Malaysian fans want their favorites to win, they should back up the coach and let the pros do their jobs. You don't sayang them to victory:rolleyes:.

KKK's a pro, he should act like one.

I am not so sure it is a good thing that Rexy is doing if he becomes too strict. Being too serious may take the lustre out of the boys' play, that is what I am saying (perhaps you did not understand my language in my earlier posting).

If I were the coach, I can be tough but I would not be so tough to stifle the players' own initiatives. I am not saying Rexy is already bad in that sense, just that he needs to watch it that he does not carry it to the nth degree.

hey! keep it low... dun let anyone noe k... hahaha :D

Golden Horse award for the following;

kkk - Best Actor

rexy - Best supportive Actor

Don't believe all these freaky fake acts !!! is time to end up the topic.

Let's(mari kita) go to Singapore Open...

Nah, this is not a matter of stifling 'initiatives'. If stifling such initiatives as KKK's recent hijinks, I am all for it. I won't question the coach's method if he has a winning track record, especially with him being the other half of a doubles team that dominated the doubles game for more than a decade.

I am not so sure it is a good thing that Rexy is doing if he becomes too strict. Being too serious may take the lustre out of the boys' play, that is what I am saying (perhaps you did not understand my language in my earlier posting).

If I were the coach, I can be tough but I would not be so tough to stifle the players' own initiatives. I am not saying Rexy is already bad in that sense, just that he needs to watch it that he does not carry it to the nth degree.

Check the dictionary, kiddo:p.

err..excuse me, what is 'powerhouse' means? :D

Check the dictionary, kiddo:p.

hey, dont be so selfish, uncle... :D

Golden Horse award for the following;

kkk - Best Actor

rexy - Best supportive Actor

Don't believe all these freaky fake acts !!! is time to end up the topic.

Let's(mari kita) go to Singapore Open...
Nomination or winner??? haha not grammy ah? only Golden Horse ah? wad bout Star Awards??? :D

hey, dont be so selfish, uncle... :D
powerhouse means the house got power hahaha... :D

hahaha. actually means like one of the top countries in the world of badminton... dominating countries... ignore my previous post.. was just joking bout it... :D

hahaha. actually means like one of the top countries in the world of badminton... dominating countries... ignore my previous post.. was just joking bout it... :D

it was a good joke though...hahahaha....

Could someone link me a video? I'm feeling really lost and left out..

is is tht mean kkk/tbh didn't participate in indonesia open?

is is tht mean kkk/tbh didn't participate in indonesia open?

probably. Rexy still considering it....

probably. Rexy still considering it....

He will send them unless they lose in the SIN OPEN!

Indonesia is the VERY place he WANTS to send them because he wants to show people back in Indonesia that he brought KKK-TBH to their success.

The reverse is true - that he would not want to send them if KKK-TBH fails in Singapore.

Comprehendo ?

it was a good joke though...hahahaha....
reli?? thx haha.... :D

anyways, i think they'll most probably go just for the sack of ranking points and breaking into top4... i think they can make it...

woah... breaking into top4 in 7 months????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

He will send them unless they lose in the SIN OPEN!

Indonesia is the VERY place he WANTS to send them because he wants to show people back in Indonesia that he brought KKK-TBH to their success.

The reverse is true - that he would not want to send them if KKK-TBH fails in Singapore.

Comprehendo ?

i think Rexy is not such an show off guy like his disciple.....

i think Rexy is not such an show off guy like his disciple.....
he is just doing his job... :D

i think Rexy is not such an show off guy like his disciple.....

How do you know he is or not ? He is a professional and there is nothing to be ashamed of by showing off, even he is.

Everyone needs to ensure their own job security. To me, I think he is doing a great job in marketing himself (he is not just a ******** artist (sales), he has the skills for it too).

You couldn't be more wrong:p. Look up on Rexy and Ricky's games from previous championships. They're a grade from everybody else during their prime:cool:. They can be quite the showboat as anyone else;). The difference here is that they know when to huddle down for the win whereas KKK and TBH broke down and never got back their focus.

i think Rexy is not such an show off guy like his disciple.....

I think all are acting only...la. KKK/TBH cannot be losing to CTF/LWW...la.
Maybe they want to increase or maintain their ranking in order for them (CTF/LWW) to qualify for the 2008 Olympic. KKK/TBH is playing the new generation tactics and the shutter speed are very much more faster than CTF/LWW, how can they (C/L) win? :confused:

I find a little bit unfair to say that defeat of KKK/TBH is only based on KKK failure. I have watched the match and I found that CTF/LWW simply played better in the first and third game (too many errors in the second)

From all KKK/TBH matchs I saw, although they have a strong defense, they didn't rely only on it. They tried to maintain pressure in the net in order to force the lift.

I though CTF/LWW were better at the net and flat game in this final. They keep pressure on KKK and KKK/TBH were often defending.

CTF/LWW attacks were also varied and accurates (in the hips or feet, so more difficult to return).

I'm not saying that KKK/TBH were at their best level, but may be more credits should be given to CTF/LWW. Perhaps I'm wrong :o

My guess is Rexy just doesn't want to see KKK/TBH ended up like Hafiz, totally dissappear after he won the All England(unfortunately Lee Chong Wei seems to heading to that direction also)
I like Rexy not just because he is a good coach but also a great motivator. I think this is what Misbun lack of, how to discipline and fire up his players. I that respect, throw Lee Chong Wei and Hafiz into Rexy camp and see how thing goes, better than see the ship sinking.
KKK/TBH and other MDs are in good hands, fortunate to say.

I find a little bit unfair to say that defeat of KKK/TBH is only based on KKK failure. I have watched the match and I found that CTF/LWW simply played better in the first and third game (too many errors in the second)

From all KKK/TBH matchs I saw, although they have a strong defense, they didn't rely only on it. They tried to maintain pressure in the net in order to force the lift.

I though CTF/LWW were better at the net and flat game in this final. They keep pressure on KKK and KKK/TBH were often defending.

CTF/LWW attacks were also varied and accurates (in the hips or feet, so more difficult to return).

I'm not saying that KKK/TBH were at their best level, but may be more credits should be given to CTF/LWW. Perhaps I'm wrong :o

Well i do agree that Rexy is a great coach. He loves his players and treat them like his own children. :)

Not a bad idea to get LCW and Hafiz to join the MD training sessions few hours per day. The motivation and spirit could rub off on them.

All,

I wanted to make some comments about why Rexy punished KKK for his 'show-off and arrogant' attitude. People can argue about Rexy's judgment but I am sure coach knows better his players than everybody else, he knows his player's characters, he knows his player's weakness and 'hidden' attitude tendency...
Why Rexy punished KKK? because Rexy knew that KKK played to show off to the Malaysian (local)gallery..
Rexy's concern was simple: If this attitude is not punished by now, can you imagine what KKK will do in the World Championship which will be held in Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia? All world players will come to play and compete but KKK will play to show-off to the gallery and Rexy doesn't want to see that repeated.
Rexy had warned his players to put their feet in the ground firmly...Rexy knows Malaysian players attitude since he was player..in fact he stated in one of the Indonesian newspaper that when he was player most of Malaysian players were 'big-headed and arrogant' once they became a champion in a very small tournament and he doesn't want to see that happened again to Malaysian players under him and waht made him worried the arrogant and big-headed indications are already there...

In fact, he was not too happy to see all the celebrations after KKK/TBH became AE champion, in one of the Malaysian newspaper he stated that you could really celebrate if Malaysian players can be a World Champion and Olympic champion.

Please to all M'sian fans, don't get offended with my comments...I know some of you don't agree with Rexy's approach and his style but as Rexy said in one of his motivation session to all players: as long as you are not world champion or Olympic champion, all of you are nothing in front of me and all of you don't have any options but to listen and follow my instructions....this is arrogant approach but a very challenging way to provoke his player -if can't be better than Rexy- at least they can reach what Rexy had got before.

Poor Rexy...I feel sorry for him because not only he has to cope with the pressure to win, but he also has to deal with their personal mental weakness. I am sure thats not part of the contract, BAM should compensate him for being a nanny for those players.

just listen to him, he knows the feeling... he brought KKK/TBH to this level... and with Rexy's success, including WC and Olympics, i can't say anything bad about what he's trying to impart to his students... if they trust rexy as a player and as a coach, and want to be as successful or more successful than him, they must listen to him...

I think Rexy doesn't mind his trainees showing off as long as they put results far far ahead of showing off. Look at the clip of Nathan Robertson training trick shots with Rexy on youtube. Rexy wouldn't be doing that kind of thing with Nathan if he really minds his trainees showing off. I actually think that showing off can mentally challenge and pressure the opponent to crack and I'm sure that Rexy is aware of that and practices that. It's just that KKK wasn't playing it to his advantage.

can someone tell me why is KKK being punished for?

can someone tell me why is KKK being punished for?
:rolleyes: erm...pls read the text below:
"I cannot let Kien Keat off the hook easily. He must be penalised for his attitude and his behaviour in Johor Baru cannot be taken lightly," said Rexy after a training session in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

"If I don’t take any action, it means I condone his actions and Kien Keat may repeat this. I cannot accept my players being arrogant and Kien Keat must realise that he has a massive responsibility on his shoulders.

"I want Kien Keat to understand this. His punishment will be something he despises but it will, I hope, stop him from having the wrong attitude."

We will tell after Singapore Open 2007 if KKK becomes the second Hafiz.....and if that happened, I hope Rexy will not follow Li Mao's footstep.

KKK wont be playing a fool again.

don't worry
KKK/TBH lost in ABC due to match fixing, haha
no offense

i sincerely hope so. KKK and TBH have so much potential. they could be one of the greats. and rexy could take them there. i just hope KKK realize that and get working. if not for anybody else then for himself.the path to greatness have many obstacles.

Frankly speaking, KKK/TBH still need to rely on Rexy for Mental strength. They have to learn to play well without Rexy. Its true that they won many tournaments this year but at the same time both of them still have alot of things to learn.

they are still 'anak mama' :)

Frankly speaking, KKK/TBH still need to rely on Rexy for Mental strength. They have to learn to play well without Rexy. Its true that they won many tournaments this year but at the same time both of them still have alot of things to learn.


Ants, sometimes it is hard to see what is going on and you need someone observing to tell you -- this is is because the players are too busy focusing on their game. Take a look at Tan Fook-Wan Wah, they are very experienced but sometimes they cannot tell what is happening to their game and they lose.

So my thots are no matter how good you are, you will need a coach whose duty would be to observe and advise.

So my thots are no matter how good you are, you will need a coach whose duty would be to observe and advise.

Candra and Tony frequently play without a coach... now that's experience.

oh man you guys got me really into this...AND I CANT BELIEVE I MISSED THAT GAME! what did he do that was so bad?!

I'm off the the other video sharing forum to find out....

Here's the thread with the video in case anyone wants to know...game 1 will be finished in 1 minute! woot!

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=552772&postcount=35

Candra and Tony frequently play without a coach... now that's experience.

U missed my point and that is a coach can help them pin-point the problems during the games, e.g. what strokes and strategies to execute.

Candra-Tony lost a few times to KKK-TBH and they wished they had a coach to pin-point their errors during the game.

Frankly speaking, KKK/TBH still need to rely on Rexy for Mental strength. They have to learn to play well without Rexy. Its true that they won many tournaments this year but at the same time both of them still have alot of things to learn.

agree agree....

Candra and Tony frequently play without a coach... now that's experience.

If i'm not mistaken, they were teammates and partners prior to Tony's departure to US. This formidable pair has virtually won every tournaments in the world, and I rank them as good as Rexy and Park Jo Bong.

I didnt notice that they didnt have a coach but having played together for nearly a decade, they understood each other's playing styles very well. I hope they do well in SG Open.

Candra-Tony lost a few times to KKK-TBH and they wished they had a coach to pin-point their errors during the game.
..both Candra and Tony had their former coach, sitting and coaching them, on several of their recent tourneys. Although i didn't notice him present in their last couple of tourneys, if not mistaken..:confused: ;)

msia has the reputation of producing players with weak mental strength.

some are over confidence
some got no confidence!!
those in between doesnt has the skills to match it:cool:

i think only WCH look confident on court...

i think only WCH look confident on court...

Chomp Chomp, if you can combine WCH's confidence and LCW's skills, then I think we can have a LD in the making. :D

NS: Chomp Chomp is the place for food ! A Bit expensive for hawker's food but nevertheless a good place.:)

seriously ... if kkk/tbh lose at singapore open then what ??? rexy moves on to korea to train the next big thing ??? lol ... oh i sinserely think that is where rexy is going next .... to korea !!!! ani takers ??? haha i think kkk/tbh will not be champions in singapore open .... lol

seriously ... if kkk/tbh lose at singapore open then what ??? rexy moves on to korea to train the next big thing ??? lol ... oh i sinserely think that is where rexy is going next .... to korea !!!! ani takers ??? haha i think kkk/tbh will not be champions in singapore open .... lol

If (and a big 'IF') they lose, Rexy will definitely be retained for the next few years because his job would not have been complete as BAM would think he has done half a job.;)

When you make a statement like they will not be champions in the SIN OPEN, you ought to give your reasons else you would like a fool, wouldn't you ? ;)

wow i wonder who is x ball ... they will not be champion bcos they cant beat the others ? how hard to give a reason for not winning ??? looks like ure the fool and im very sure they wont win bcoz fools think a like lol

If want to punish..BAM should be the one. Who arranged for all the celebrations? Who sent KKK/TBH to the by-election campaign? Who sent them to all the stupid functions? When they performed badly, BAM kept quiet. When they won something, BAM wanted the credit. BAM is one of the worst sports associations in Malaysia..so many red tapes..so much politic..look at what happened to Ong Ewe Hock, look at what happened to Li Mao. If BAM is good, we would never have Nusa Mahsuri and KLRC.

If want to punish..BAM should be the one. Who arranged for all the celebrations? Who sent KKK/TBH to the by-election campaign? Who sent them to all the stupid functions? When they performed badly, BAM kept quiet. When they won something, BAM wanted the credit. BAM is one of the worst sports associations in Malaysia..so many red tapes..so much politic..look at what happened to Ong Ewe Hock, look at what happened to Li Mao. If BAM is good, we would never have Nusa Mahsuri and KLRC.

I guess if you say it like this, BAM looks vulnerable. But the fact is KKK-TBH succeeded in winning all these tournaments. If it was not BAM hiring the right coach; giving the coach the ropes to operate successfully, and adopting all the right programs to bring the players up to scratch, they would not have won. So, should they not take the credit (I am sure if you succeed in your work, you would want to claim credit too).

If you look at BAM today, it is more open than it was before. BAM, is after all, people managing it. If the people do not perform, BAM obviously suffers. I like to think that it has achieved some good with the doubles (it has come a long way, I am beginning to enjoy the game a lot more with Malaysian successes). And if singles have suffered, I think it is more of a temporarily setback. Can anyone say that they know that BAM caused the slide in LCW ? Li Mao chose to leave because he was feeling insecure (BAM was not going to 'cull' him) and LCW was already sliding before Li Mao left.

The other question is can BAM be blamed for Hafiz's slide ? Of course not, it was the same coach who got him to win the ALL-ENGLAND - they did not withdraw Misbun' services. If anyone was to be blamed then it is Hafiz. He let it slide. BAM is as baffled as we are and are still trying to right the wrong of their players (yes I blame it on the players even tho I am a great fan of LCW). When a player is in a game, he is in control, not BAM. If he cannot use his skills to beat his oponent, then he has failed, not BAM. And stop blaming Misbun, he built a champion but the champion took it easy after his win and let it slide.

No hard feelings Malaysia Boleh? but Malaysia really Boleh, and KKK-TBH will show it in the SIN OPEN.;)