I don't what exactly happened but Lin Dan did really lost. This is really a sucker especially to Lin Dan fans. Wow, Singapore Open is really one of the most exciting Super Series so far. :eek: :D :) :crying: :mad: :p :o :( ;) :rolleyes: :confused: :cool:

For the sake of others, I hope there'll be no more major upsets but who can tell? :confused:

Come on..even Federer/Woods/Williams can lose also...
I think LD played the match out of his heart...it just happened that Boonsak played better.tonight ....LD did not want to lose to BP...Men single are far more competitive than Women...it is just tough to see favorite onesto lose to unexpected ones...just like TH to PG...

i wonder how keng boosak is. lol.
i hate singapore and indon open.

i wonder how keng boosak is. lol.
i hate singapore and indon open.

WHY you hate SO and IO??

WHY you hate SO and IO??

Because Team Malaysia does not have a good record at both events :D
Remember last year? This year, MAS is only left with Choong/Lee and they could go out tomorrow :D

Because Team Malaysia does not have a good record at both events :D
Remember last year? This year, MAS is only left with Choong/Lee and they could go out tomorrow :D

Oh...I see....it will be worse at IO as Indo fans always boo Malay players...I remembered when I was in Jakarta watching Thomas cup.....wow...thats was so scary...they bood Malay players like riots....tough and felt sorry for malay players....:(

Because Team Malaysia does not have a good record at both events :D
Remember last year? This year, MAS is only left with Choong/Lee and they could go out tomorrow :D

exactly. ive seen the indon draw. i dun lyk it. hahaa.

indo fans oso come malaysia to boo our players..wats the difference?

i mean the draw. not the fans.

indo fans oso come malaysia to boo our players..wats the difference?

Really? wow...may be we have more TKI and Maids there...well..you have to admit that malay ppl have better education and know how to behave...but Indo ppl..especially uneducated ones....wow...just like football...riot..riot..
Pls pardon me..I am indonesian too...does not intend to say bad things about indo...thats reality at istora Senayan...so noisy..even players serve..they kept yelling..."ngak tahan" to watch...:(

Sorry to hear that.

I don't know why LD lost because I didn't watch this match.

I always cheer LD but this time, I cheered Boonsak.

I think Boonsak is so confident in this tournament, maybe more than LD.

However, I feel two feelings, so sad for LD:crying: and so glad for BP:) .

Since Super Series was held,so many upsets happened.However, for Singapore SS,I guess this is the only super series tournament where chinese team didnt perform well (from malaysia-swiss SS).I dont think that china will take 4 out 5 titles this time,but anything can happen,just hope and pray.But I'm sure that WS and WD still belong to china.For MS,I dont hope much from Chen Yu since he has bad record against Gade,but still hope he can create upset.If he win,maybe he can take the title.For MD,Fu/Cai have their enemies to beat especially TG/CW.And MXD,hope Xie/Zhang can save china's face like they did in 2005 HK Open.

ah. nvm. its over. go xxf den

Really? wow...may be we have more TKI and Maids there...well..you have to admit that malay ppl have better education and know how to behave...but Indo ppl..especially uneducated ones....wow...just like football...riot..riot..
Pls pardon me..I am indonesian too...does not intend to say bad things about indo...thats reality at istora Senayan...so noisy..even players serve..they kept yelling..."ngak tahan" to watch...:(

You r rite...sometimes I even feel shamed when they're yelling like crazy ppl

Sorry to hear that.

I don't know why LD lost because I didn't watch this match.

I always cheer LD but this time, I cheered Boonsak.

I think Boonsak is so confident in this tournament, maybe more than LD.

However, I feel two feelings, so sad for LD:crying: and so glad for BP:) .
Maybe LD lost :crying: because of your cheering...hahaha!:p

may be LD because of black magic..Thailand is famous for that...

Just kidding!!! dont take it seriously..!!at least no all chinese final...!!

So Chen Yu can win the final and gain more points to knock off Chen Hong

Crowd participation (cheering and booing) is part of the game.

An out of town player needs to be mentally tough, and that is part of the game also.

i nothing much to say about lin dan match, i was there, sitting at front seats.. he shouldnt have lost, the crowd is too noisy and too hiong...
every shot they play, alot of exciting noises, like kill! in chinese, alot alot of noises...
from the look of lin dan's face, he dont seem to like it and it distracts his focus..

the last point, lin dan fore hand crosscourt smash and the ball went way out..
he killed himself. haiz

hmm... dunno y... i think SO is suwei... kuang3... maybe lin dan was over confident... or maybe boonsak had sharpen his skill...

Its kinda sad that they dont split countrymen into both halfs. If both danes and singaporeans had been placed differently in the draw would we then have seen a final between those 2. Its third time out of 4 super serie tourneys that Gade beats Jonassen, and why? Because they are placed in the same quarter, imo LAME!!

Its kinda sad that they dont split countrymen into both halfs. If both danes and singaporeans had been placed differently in the draw would we then have seen a final between those 2. Its third time out of 4 super serie tourneys that Gade beats Jonassen, and why? Because they are placed in the same quarter, imo LAME!!
I also think that the rule about contry seperation is really bad.

i was there. i was sad to see LD lost in this game. he fight for everypoint in the 3rd set. no doubt that boonsak had played a good game today. but i feel that LD lost to the linesman.
at 19-18 when LD was leading, a smash on the line was ruled out by the linesman. that change the momentum of the game. if LD were to lead at 20-18, then i guess it will be a different outcome.

in the first 2 games, at least 2 to 3 calls from the linesman was against LD.

overall, i feel that the linesman didn't do a good job. but... human makes error huh. sigh...

yea.. i agree.. the linesman caused lindan his game..

c'mon guys... i was there too... give some credits to Bonsak..
he did play quite well... made less mistakes... .and his netting simply superb...

yeah.. it was noisy... but i guess, those things are very common for pros like LD! :rolleyes:

expect Indo Open...it is noisier....if LD could not cope with the noise...will be worse when he plays Indo especially against INA players..expect to be booed big times..

I think we should stop here. Nobody will win forever. Do we need to find out any possible reason to convince ourselves everytime when Lin Dan lose?
If Lin Dan win everytime, do we still want to watch badminton?

He lost because i cheered boonsak :) Anyways nobody wins always and forever... its good for badminton that sometimes someone else wins.

i was there. i was sad to see LD lost in this game. he fight for everypoint in the 3rd set. no doubt that boonsak had played a good game today. but i feel that LD lost to the linesman.
at 19-18 when LD was leading, a smash on the line was ruled out by the linesman. that change the momentum of the game. if LD were to lead at 20-18, then i guess it will be a different outcome.

in the first 2 games, at least 2 to 3 calls from the linesman was against LD.

overall, i feel that the linesman didn't do a good job. but... human makes error huh. sigh...
I thought some calls were against Boonsak! Hey, our linesmen passed the TH test! That is the gold standard.
There are a few reasons behind LD's loss:
1. Before SS, LD used to have easy first two rounds and in the later stages other CHN MS would clear some path for him. Effectively, in the past, for most (if not all) of his titles, he has never played three challenging matches CONSECUTIVELY. He did not have the opportunity to develop the mental stamina of three consecutive tough matches against non CHN MS opponents so he is going to have it tough to clear SF unless he's facing a CHN MS. Now, with SS, he has to do battle right from 1st round instead of coming out later like a little general. This is new experience for him so he's finding it difficult. Pity, to have to do hard labour in the tail end of his badminton career.
2. LD used to be popular wherever he played (anyway the Chinese are everywhere) and he's used to having the crowd support.Things are changing slowly but surely. In MO07 and this AOS07, the crowd was behind his opponents. The anti-LD atmosphere was pretty obvious.It's not easy for LD to win with the crowd against him. He looked hunted and probably felt that way tonight against Boonsak.
My advice to LYB:Have confidence in your MS and let them play freely. With SS, WR1 or WR2 has no draw advantage anymore.In fact, it's embarrassing if the WR1 keep on losing.

cheers bro! i also cheers boonsak! boonsak jia you! :D:D

He lost because i cheered boonsak :) Anyways nobody wins always and forever... its good for badminton that sometimes someone else wins.

I think we should stop here. Nobody will win forever. Do we need to find out any possible reason to convince ourselves everytime when Lin Dan lose?
If Lin Dan win everytime, do we still want to watch badminton?

Agree with you CK, one person cant win every single time. Plus I find plenty of posts here thats not only gone way off topic but can be considered offensive for some.

I thought LD looked strangely out of sorts during his match with Boonsak; very few of his trademark jump smashes and generally 'pedestrian' pace by his usual standards.

In my opinion, I think that some people must stop searching reason to
LD Lost. He is human like all and a do great already being staying so long
at the top but sometime others player can play better. This is sport. Look
a Federer in Tennis that I compare to LD in Badminton. He trust everything in Tennis but he loose to.
LD will rule again this year but I think that some player has improve a lot and can sometime beat him, this is the law of sport.
Like we said, none is eternal even the LD reign.

I believe LD was frustrated by having so much difficulty dealing with Boonsak, a player obviously not in the same league as himself. That's why he became distracted by the noise.

Also I think LD is reserving his form or just getting old or something, he is not as agile as before. Watched his Korean open final with CJ, he was also kind of walking around in that match. :cool:

i nothing much to say about lin dan match, i was there, sitting at front seats.. he shouldnt have lost, the crowd is too noisy and too hiong...
every shot they play, alot of exciting noises, like kill! in chinese, alot alot of noises...
from the look of lin dan's face, he dont seem to like it and it distracts his focus..

the last point, lin dan fore hand crosscourt smash and the ball went way out..
he killed himself. haiz

I thought LD looked strangely out of sorts during his match with Boonsak; very few of his trademark jump smashes and generally 'pedestrian' pace by his usual standards.
LD couldn't cope with Boonsak's 'slow motion' badminton and his superior netplay. In other words, Boonsak called the shots. Persistent netplay really trouble LD (same with Kendrick's victory over CJ).If your opponent does not allow you to play your game , losing is likely.

Well, from what I saw, control of the match was pretty even. But Lin Dan did make several errors midway through 3rd game (as well as start of 1st game). He then had to play catch up.

What I don't understand is why he didn't persist with his attacking game from start to finish of game 2. He's playing on and off in game 3, giving more confidence to Boonsak in the end.

Why Boonsak win? Because he is a clever player. He was very patience. He never allowed Lin Dan any chance to play his attacking game (except for game 2 which he purposely threw away). He kept the shuttle low all the time and his court control was brilliant. Poor Lin Dan was simply running out of idea. Credit should also be given to the Thai coaching staff for getting the strategy right. The first thing which Boonsak did after clinching the winning point was running to hug his coaches..which was so touching.

Another reason is because 75% of the crowd was supporting Boonsak. I guess we all enjoy upset. I guess we all like Lin Dan to lose. I guess we all getting tired of him winning tournement after tournement. I lost my voice cheering and shouting vigorously for Boonsak.. but like the rest of the crowd out there..we just don't mind..cause it was so satisfying to bring the great wall of China down. Wow........

I don't what exactly happened but Lin Dan did really lost....
:) I guess he underestimated Boonsak's ability!

...Hey, our linesmen passed the TH test! That is the gold standard....
:D Haha...indeed a gold standard!:p

He is very lerthargic today. The 1st game i can see that boonsak is trying LD fitness out and true enough LD shows signs of tiredness. He commited too many unforced errors todays. At least more than 5 smashes were out. Line calls drifts, service faults.....these are part and parcel of the players games. They cant make use of this as an excuse. Its a wake up call to LYB that he has to train his players harder. I watch Boonsak train 2 times at SBA, spoke to him and find that he is very much ready for this tournament. His strokes and multiple shuttles drills are exceptional. Altho i m a LD fan, from a player point of view, i cant help but to say that LD's condition is not ready for Aviva. i watch him from day 1 and the game against Chan Yan Kit already show form of lethargicness and rustyness. And being at the top is not easy. There will be people who are always training harder and getting fitter juz to dislodge you Lin Dan! Wake and go thorugh all the hard regime again else......:crying:

How long was the last time we only see 1 Chinese in sf?? It must be a bad day for the Chinese team. Many upsets so far.

The process of this game is very similar to the one in Asian Games, when LHI fought hard to take the 1st and 3rd games, and lost the 2nd quickly. :cool: Maybe that can be a formula for those inferior players who would like to try beating LD... :rolleyes:

How long was the last time we only see 1 Chinese in sf?? It must be a bad day for the Chinese team. Many upsets so far.

simple. you cannot be on top forever. lindan has won so many tournaments already...other players want the title more than lindan. besides, lindan made a comment that nothing else matters other than winning the olympics gold. he's mentally tired, so much hope placed upon his shoulders by CHN time each time, no one can sustain this forever...the loss may be good for him..gives him time to reflect and wakes him up for the olympics.

simple. you cannot be on top forever. lindan has won so many tournaments already...other players want the title more than lindan. besides, lindan made a comment that nothing else matters other than winning the olympics gold. he's mentally tired, so much hope placed upon his shoulders by CHN time each time, no one can sustain this forever...the loss may be good for him..gives him time to reflect and wakes him up for the olympics.

I agree the strength of the Chinese system isn't in managing the longevity of it's players. Rather the system produces players that peak early and play at a high level for a fewer number of years. In general Asian training regimens are more physically demanding and China is one of the extremes.

LD at age 24 probably has alot more mileage on his mind and body than many of his contemporaries. This reminds me of Zhao Jian Hua who was overplayed in 85 when he was recovering from pneumonia which permanently affected his lung capacity later on.

I think LYB should make sure he manages the physical and mental resources of his players carefully going into Beijing 2008. It's a fine line between keeping them well honed and prepared and burning them out. This is the first indicator that the approach needs to be adjusted.

I don't think it's a coincidence CJ and Bao are also flaming out lately. There must be something common affecting the entire MS team at least. Too much glory for China may be adversely affecting the team's energy and mental freshness as a whole.

I never thought of it this way but the more you win, the more you have to play. The more you play, the more you drain your limited reserves, and the more you struggle. Wow what a devastating cycle. It's actually counterproductive to win too many tournaments. Better to pace yourslef (hmm Taufik) I really think the coaching admin needs to set some limits on the players to avoid overplaying due to successul results.

Derek

Wasn't LD still suffering a bit from his injury? it was showing in his first few matches...

Regardless, Boon has been fighting hard against people he is "not supposed to beat" and I'm glad to see him advance.

That's the great thing about this sport... absolutely anything can happen.
Just imagine if this was the olympics!!! :D:D:D
I remember one of the last ones TH was favored heavily to win, but pulled out due to injury, and Hendrawan took the gold.

Now most of the big matches are out of the way... and LD is finished here, he can rest up for the IO.

cheers bro! i also cheers boonsak! boonsak jia you! :D:D

Haha were you among the indonesian camp who were sitting just behind the premium seats ? they were the ones cheering boonsak jia you! haha very cute.. i was the loudest shouting from behind :)

Haha were you among the indonesian camp who were sitting just behind the premium seats ? they were the ones cheering boonsak jia you! haha very cute.. i was the loudest shouting from behind :)

no... i was sitting in the premium seat... in front of those indonesian supporters... yeah.. they were funny.... :D:D

really??i was sitting in the normal sits behind the indonesian supporters
no... i was sitting in the premium seat... in front of those indonesian supporters... yeah.. they were funny.... :D:D

today, if u hear someone shout "Hirose Gambate!", most likely is me! :D:D:D

really??i was sitting in the normal sits behind the indonesian supporters

really??i was sitting in the normal sits behind the indonesian supporters

Really?
Then im the one sitting in Indonesia camp.. :)
Im one of Indonesian supporter, from the 1st day till final.. now is ready to watch again today..

Boonsak Jiayou... :p

Really?
Then im the one sitting in Indonesia camp.. :)
Im one of Indonesian supporter, from the 1st day till final.. now is ready to watch again today..

Boonsak Jiayou... :p

yo bro! u guys really funny lah...
but that's good.. it makes the tournament more happening...:D:D:D

kalau garuda menang tepuk tangan.. *clap clap clap* :D:D:D

LD i think he miss timed his comeback. He clearly owned boonsak on the 2nd set. For now, the drive isnt there to win the mundane tournaments because it is tiring and he doesnt keep all the winnings anyway. The only meaningful title for LD now is the 2008 Olympic gold, and maybe another WC.

yo bro! u guys really funny lah...
but that's good.. it makes the tournament more happening...:D:D:D

kalau garuda menang tepuk tangan.. *clap clap clap* :D:D:D


Hey, because we'll supporting Ronald Susilo, Sinagpore player's bro, you can join us an doing some cheers later..
But in advance, we need you to cheers for our mans double player, they will play against China and Malaysia tonight... :D

Hey, because we'll supporting Ronald Susilo, Sinagpore player's bro, you can join us an doing some cheers later..
But in advance, we need you to cheers for our mans double player, they will play against China and Malaysia tonight... :D

hahah.. bro.. i won't be joining u.. but no worry, i will also support indo double tonite! ole ole ole ;)

i am so happy for boonsak and his family and hs coach,after a long long time he will be reaching semifinals of any kind of tournament.i have never seen lindane playing live but i have seen boonsak play in thailand many times,he is really a dadicated player,no doubt in my mind lin dane is the worlds best player in mens singles right now but I WAS TOLD WHAT GOES UP ALWAYS COMES DOWN TOO.China is the leading team in world badminton,every one has lucky day like boonsak had yesterday,which makes that day worth remembering it all there life time.I WISH HIM GOOD LUCK AND WISH HE COMES HOME TO THAILAND AS SINGAPORE MEN'S SINGLES WINNER.

Why Boonsak win? Because he is a clever player. He was very patience....
yep, agreed that Boonsak is clever and patience player. GO BOONSAK!!!

yep, agreed that Boonsak is clever and patience player. GO BOONSAK!!!

Boonsak, like Lee Hyun Ill, haunts the established players every now and then when you least expect it. And that is why it is exciting when it happens - the whole of Thai badminton fraternity (and other nations too) celebrates his big win.

I think he is fancying his chances today too !

Seems jinx factor works to LD, he almost never booked good record in South East Asia tourneys. Let's see what will happen next SS in Jakarta!

I salute Bonsak for his gutsy play. He deserves all the credits. Whereas for LD, would it because he is too over confident? Nvr in my wildest dream that LD will lost to Bonsak.

Seems jinx factor works to LD, he almost never booked good record in South East Asia tourneys. Let's see what will happen next SS in Jakarta!

He is not going to Indo Open is he? Anyways i dont think he has won anything in countries like Malaysia, S'pore and Indon. Maybe its the crowd factor, not use to have less than 20% of the crowd cheering for him? :p

Eventhough I support Lin Dan and Boonsak, i'm really happy for Boonsak to have got this far after so long. Hey, he is a good player, especially as he had to juggle studies and training. I started supporting Boonsak a few years ago when he was THE dark horse. He used to beat top players unexpectedly like xia xuanze (which is my no. 1 player), chen hong, peter gade. always unexpected until the newspapers had to start reporting on him. But he's lost that form for awhile and its really good news to hear his truimph again!

yea, he's patient, polite and I like the way he greets and thank the crowd always with he's palm together. keeps to his country's tradition.. GO BOONSAK! GO LIN DAN!!

It is impossible for him to win each game.
LD has tried his best,that is enough.

today, if u hear someone shout "Hirose Gambate!", most likely is me! :D:D:D

haha were you the one today who shouted... "IN IN IN IN" hahaha

Boonsak played a smart game that's why he won. Strategy was the key.

It seems like LD usually will take it easy during the first game. Thus, Boonsak
went all out during the first game and by the time LD realises Boonsak was
all the way out, it was too late for him to catch up during the 1st one.
1st set to Boonsak.

Second game was an obivous throw away by Boonsak. He didn't smash but
keep the shuttle high and long, tiring LD out in the process. He knew LD
would go all out to win the 2nd set thus fighting all the way against him
after being tired out winning the 1st set would be a mistake.
2nd set to LD.

Third set was all fired up. Boonsak then came back with the same zest
and determination and managed the upset against LD. Pretty lucky for him
but a win remains a win.

Smart strategy which paid off.

Check out his AOS 07 records... he only lost one game in the whole series
and that was the one to LD which he "threw away"... the rest was all fought
hard.

This is just my humble 2 cent's view.

"Courageous" is the word the describe Boonsak's performance in this tournament, didnt fear in challenging the best players in the world and finally succeeded. Nvr been a fan of him, but now i am.

Watched last two match live.

I think this tong-yam boy is very well trained. Susilo wasn't close to him in relies and Chen Yu couldn't answers his smashes. I think China team should have an answer to Boonsak before their olympic.

Gade should retire. TF should retire long ago.

I feel that one reason Singapore Open away got upsets because the audience tend to cheer for losing team. I cheer for malysia MD in the first set, middle of 2nd set the chinese's team fighting spirit won me and the clowd over. In the 3rd set their cheering was tremendous when they raise back. I believe there is much more malaysia supporter then the chinese team to start with.

the chinese supporters were very daring to sit right next to malaysia supporters and wave their flag to cover the malaysians. haha.. i saw it..

the chinese supporters were very daring to sit right next to malaysia supporters and wave their flag to cover the malaysians. haha.. i saw it..
Lol... i was laughin hard on that, they trying the outdo each other on the flags. Was wondering did they even tried to cekik each other's necks in during the 2nd set :D:D:D

Did they? OMg, I wished I had seen it.. it must have been a funny sight!

from some threads about watching live..yes,i'm preety happy to only see it from TV,since the crowd is quite annoying.LOL..Since most of the spectators came from the "abang2,mba2",so,they're quite "kampungan".I'll just quietly enjoy their matches on TV here then.=P