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chorlaw
05-06-2007, 08:31 AM
:confused:
I was there at the Spore Indoor Stadium last night and tonight, catching the full actions of those international players.
Noticed that a certain country brought in drums to cheer their players, but I believed the noise was immense enough to distract players in the court. Actually the clappers distributed by the organisers and sponsors were already loud enough to support the players, is there a neccessity for the drums?
And the noise created by the drums covered the voice cheering for the opponent's party, i felt that it was not fair.
Why didn't World Badminton Federation or the organiser ban audience to bring in drums or other instruments that create loud noise that distract players?

Sideline
05-06-2007, 09:00 AM
In my books, that's called atmosphere. I suppose the organizers could have banned the drums to regulate the noise level to their liking, just like how most things are in Singapore. Kudos that they didn't.

Anyway, even with the drums, the noise level is nothing compared to Senayan or Bukit Jalil. I suppose seasoned players have gotten used to it. I was at the Singapore indoor stadium today by the way.

Cheung
05-06-2007, 09:03 AM
I just saw part of the finals on TV. The drums really added to the atmosphere of the occasion, especially during the men's doubles finals. I'm all for loud noises, cheering, chanting and drums from the audience.

I believe it adds to the attractiveness of our sport because it reflects the enthusiasm that we have.

zqloy
05-06-2007, 09:08 AM
Yeah i luv drums. Creates great badminton atmosphere! As long as no booings, its ok to me.

huangkwokhau
05-06-2007, 09:19 AM
even for soccer...it is worse..they bring drums, etc....thats challenge for players especially when they play in Malay or Indonesia...their ears have to really THICK

pjswift
05-06-2007, 11:03 AM
:confused:
I was there at the Spore Indoor Stadium last night and tonight, catching the full actions of those international players.
Noticed that a certain country brought in drums to cheer their players, but I believed the noise was immense enough to distract players in the court. Actually the clappers distributed by the organisers and sponsors were already loud enough to support the players, is there a neccessity for the drums?
And the noise created by the drums covered the voice cheering for the opponent's party, i felt that it was not fair.
Why didn't World Badminton Federation or the organiser ban audience to bring in drums or other instruments that create loud noise that distract players?
Yeah, the Samsung MAS cheer group did a terrific job of drumming up the crowd to life. They even cheered for Thailand!That's why the first thing Boonsak said in his victory interview was to thank his supporters. They helped bring out the best in him.CY was not short on support. CHN's Jia You came from all FOUR corners; MAS only one corner so even with drums, CHN's louder. ONly have one request to CHN fans. Cheer before or after play ;not during play pls. In any case,CHN's cy/fhf still won ,so maybe the drums work for them too.

Shuttlekok
05-06-2007, 11:06 AM
:confused:
I was there at the Spore Indoor Stadium last night and tonight, catching the full actions of those international players.
Noticed that a certain country brought in drums to cheer their players, but I believed the noise was immense enough to distract players in the court. Actually the clappers distributed by the organisers and sponsors were already loud enough to support the players, is there a neccessity for the drums?
And the noise created by the drums covered the voice cheering for the opponent's party, i felt that it was not fair.
Why didn't World Badminton Federation or the organiser ban audience to bring in drums or other instruments that create loud noise that distract players?

Sorry... but i can't imagine badminton with spectators watching silently
and clapping after each point. Might as well be a closed door affair and
braodcast over TV so players won't be distracted...

Cheung
05-06-2007, 11:32 AM
Sorry... but i can't imagine badminton with spectators watching silently
and clapping after each point. Might as well be a closed door affair and
braodcast over TV so players won't be distracted...Watch matches from 20 yrs ago of the All England:p

chorlaw
05-07-2007, 12:15 AM
no la...of course i dun like silent matches too...
but i suppose with the clappers the cheering are sufficient enough for the players in the court.....
too much drums could be quite annoying to some ears of the players..
the organiser did have their own drumroll to lead the crowd. isn't it?

:P

no hard feelings for any specific country's supporter

tjl_vanguard
05-07-2007, 12:24 AM
:confused:
I was there at the Spore Indoor Stadium last night and tonight, catching the full actions of those international players.
Noticed that a certain country brought in drums to cheer their players, but I believed the noise was immense enough to distract players in the court. Actually the clappers distributed by the organisers and sponsors were already loud enough to support the players, is there a neccessity for the drums?
And the noise created by the drums covered the voice cheering for the opponent's party, i felt that it was not fair.
Why didn't World Badminton Federation or the organiser ban audience to bring in drums or other instruments that create loud noise that distract players?
this so-called "TRADITION" has been going on for decades and its even worse when in Indonesia and Malaysia.... that's the beauty of BADMINTON... which other sports have that type of enthusiasm (except football i suppose)..... even tennis doesn have that atmosphere when the match is going on.... i think u're trying to say the msians who brought the drums arent u???

tjl_vanguard
05-07-2007, 12:26 AM
Watch matches from 20 yrs ago of the All England:p
haha funny... :D

tjl_vanguard
05-07-2007, 12:29 AM
Yeah, the Samsung MAS cheer group did a terrific job of drumming up the crowd to life. They even cheered for Thailand!That's why the first thing Boonsak said in his victory interview was to thank his supporters. They helped bring out the best in him.CY was not short on support. CHN's Jia You came from all FOUR corners; MAS only one corner so even with drums, CHN's louder. ONly have one request to CHN fans. Cheer before or after play ;not during play pls. In any case,CHN's cy/fhf still won ,so maybe the drums work for them too.
i saw in the match that at times, the chn fans were waving the flags and its reli distracting... noises is still kinda ok but visually distracted is a little too much... :D

bariq
05-07-2007, 12:31 AM
whether its distracting or not, it surely creates a atmosphere and the players should be strong enough to get through it. There is one guy who was waving a big flag of China just behind the players, thats more distracting than drums.

well if you ban drums and clappers... then as MLTR at their concert in singapore said "We gave concerts in many places but never seen people who sit on chairs and clap" hahaha ;)

tjl_vanguard
05-07-2007, 12:34 AM
whether its distracting or not, it surely creates a atmosphere and the players should be strong enough to get through it. There is one guy who was waving a big flag of China just behind the players, thats more distracting than drums.

well if you ban drums and clappers... then as MLTR at their concert in singapore said "We gave concerts in many places but never seen people who sit on chairs and clap" hahaha ;)
tats a good one hahah :D :D :D

zqloy
05-07-2007, 12:36 AM
Lol.... the noise in SO is nth compare to Indon fans. They use to even throw bottles and create havoc when indonesia is hosting TC last time.

Dimplex
05-07-2007, 02:30 AM
i think all the noise...drums etc add atmosphere...its a lot better than the tennis where the umpire is always asking for quiet

Sealman
05-07-2007, 03:29 AM
i saw in the match that at times, the chn fans were waving the flags and its reli distracting... noises is still kinda ok but visually distracted is a little too much... :D

I thought the crowds were fantastic. Cai/Fu and Tan/Lee were inspired to play better and even thanked the supporters after the game :)

tjl_vanguard
05-07-2007, 03:48 AM
I thought the crowds were fantastic. Cai/Fu and Tan/Lee were inspired to play better and even thanked the supporters after the game :)
yea... no doubt about that.. can see tat frm the TV as well.... :D

but, if were to compare SO to MO and IO, the cheers and drum bangings are still not that "HOT" yet! haha :D no offense...

vching
05-07-2007, 07:01 AM
worse case of supporters jepordising a match - In the Thomas cup finals between Denmark and Indonesia in an unknown year in Thailand, Indonesian students wore white shirts and pants with black jackets and almost fully booked the stadium. They put on the black jacket when they were facing the Indonesian players, so that the Indo players could see the shuttlecock better, while the other end took off their jacket. When the players switched ends of the court, the spectators switched colours too, so the Danish players' vision were somewhat affected.

zqloy
05-07-2007, 07:11 AM
yea... no doubt about that.. can see tat frm the TV as well.... :D

but, if were to compare SO to MO and IO, the cheers and drum bangings are still not that "HOT" yet! haha :D no offense...

lol.... its true. MO hv smaller stadium but bigger "bangs"! Cant wait for the WC in Aug, must be loads of fun! :D

surge
05-07-2007, 07:12 AM
if you think this is bad, you should watch NBA(usa). when a player from visiting state is taking free throws...the whole crowd behind the rim wave their clapper ballons like crazy!! and judging from the uniformity of the clappers...it must have come from the hosting state.

but all these adds atmosphere to the game...so long as no one throw things or use abusive langauge at the players.

the drums, noise etc is what makes live viewing more interesting that just watching at home.

tjl_vanguard
05-07-2007, 08:55 PM
lol.... its true. MO hv smaller stadium but bigger "bangs"! Cant wait for the WC in Aug, must be loads of fun! :D
just dont bring down the stadium cuz my school is going there for a competition after that hahaha :D

ctjcad
05-08-2007, 01:57 AM
...and unique:cool: ...was there, witnessed and listened to them in 2005-Can't beat the feeling and atmosphere...It's unlike any other experience, that i can't see a badminton tourney not have one..;)

Felicia_txh
05-08-2007, 02:07 AM
:confused:
I was there at the Spore Indoor Stadium last night and tonight, catching the full actions of those international players.
Noticed that a certain country brought in drums to cheer their players, but I believed the noise was immense enough to distract players in the court. Actually the clappers distributed by the organisers and sponsors were already loud enough to support the players, is there a neccessity for the drums?
And the noise created by the drums covered the voice cheering for the opponent's party, i felt that it was not fair.
Why didn't World Badminton Federation or the organiser ban audience to bring in drums or other instruments that create loud noise that distract players?
ya..i agree wif u..it's really noisy especially drum..but tat's the tradition in certain country!!I think cheer n clap hand is enough..if i m one of the audience,i will choose a place tat far fr the cheer team..:p

pjswift
05-08-2007, 02:19 AM
lol.... its true. MO hv smaller stadium but bigger "bangs"! Cant wait for the WC in Aug, must be loads of fun! :D
Agree 100%. First time I watched a tournament in MAS last month in JB, the ABC spectators were first class. There was THUNDEROUS applause for every point and when the players entered to play.Every player must have felt like stars.That's why and how they managed to play and show their best.The matches were high quality because the crowd showed incredible support and appreciation.Never mind the size or tidiness of the venue. In the end what counts are how great the matches are. That's the true measure of a great tournament.

zqloy
05-08-2007, 02:22 AM
ya..i agree wif u..it's really noisy especially drum..but tat's the tradition in certain country!!I think cheer n clap hand is enough..if i m one of the audience,i will choose a place tat far fr the cheer team..:p

Lol.... im the exact opposite. Will choose the noisiest place to sit, the more noise, the "higher" :p

zqloy
05-08-2007, 02:24 AM
Agree 100%. First time I watched a tournament in MAS last month in JB, the ABC spectators were first class. There was THUNDEROUS applause for every point and when the players entered to play.Every player must have felt like stars.That's why and how they managed to play and show their best.The matches were high quality because the crowd showed incredible support and appreciation.Never mind the size or tidiness of the venue. In the end what counts are how great the matches are. That's the true measure of a great tournament.

Tat is why so many upset happens in these tournaments :D

X Ball
05-08-2007, 02:24 AM
Agree 100%. First time I watched a tournament in MAS last month in JB, the ABC spectators were first class. There was THUNDEROUS applause for every point and when the players entered to play.Every player must have felt like stars.That's why and how they managed to play and show their best.The matches were high quality because the crowd showed incredible support and appreciation.Never mind the size or tidiness of the venue. In the end what counts are how great the matches are. That's the true measure of a great tournament.

If you forget about the toilets, the MAS OPEN was also like that.:)

Felicia_txh
05-08-2007, 02:34 AM
Lol.... im the exact opposite. Will choose the noisiest place to sit, the more noise, the "higher" :p
haha..the noise of cheer especially drum was deafening!!:p I still remember during 2004 SEA GAMES,i went to watch basketball event..the Sarawak team hire a team of local students to cheer for them..they play kompang n sing!!Oh my goodness..:eek: The noise of kompang was deafening!!:eek:

Felicia_txh
05-08-2007, 03:09 AM
haha..the noise of cheer especially drum was deafening!!:p I still remember during 2004 SEA GAMES,i went to watch basketball event..the Sarawak team hire a team of local students to cheer for them..they play kompang n sing!!Oh my goodness..:eek: The noise of kompang was deafening!!:eek:
Not Sea Games..is SUKMA..:p

pjswift
05-08-2007, 04:42 AM
If you forget about the toilets, the MAS OPEN was also like that.:)
The matches are so good you forget the toilets. Everything is relative.

chorlaw
05-08-2007, 11:17 PM
Agree 100%. First time I watched a tournament in MAS last month in JB, the ABC spectators were first class. There was THUNDEROUS applause for every point and when the players entered to play.Every player must have felt like stars.That's why and how they managed to play and show their best.The matches were high quality because the crowd showed incredible support and appreciation.Never mind the size or tidiness of the venue. In the end what counts are how great the matches are. That's the true measure of a great tournament.

:D If there is a option to choose, I would believe most audience would prefer to enjoy a HIGH quality SUPERB display of skills and stamina by players whom are not been disturbed by overwhelming drumbeats at unncessary times. Applause and clappers at every point scored should be enough to cheer and support the players......
I wonder, does those DIEHARD supporters with drums know how the players feel down there in court facing the opponents? ....DISTRACTION do exist...

Smichz
05-09-2007, 03:23 AM
Sorry... but i can't imagine badminton with spectators watching silently
and clapping after each point. Might as well be a closed door affair and
braodcast over TV so players won't be distracted...

AGREE!!!!Yeah..i also like the crowdness,as long as it doesnt distract the players to play their best.Well,as we know,Chinese teams or any other teams already have some complaints about the crowds in south east asia,especially indo..

Smichz
05-09-2007, 03:25 AM
They're supposed to be a form of action to support the players,not to distract them,or distracting their rival teams..keep up the sportivity as well..

X Ball
05-09-2007, 03:45 AM
The matches are so good you forget the toilets. Everything is relative.

hahaha, thanks for echoing what I said.:D

hcyong
05-09-2007, 04:14 AM
:D If there is a option to choose, I would believe most audience would prefer to enjoy a HIGH quality SUPERB display of skills and stamina by players whom are not been disturbed by overwhelming drumbeats at unncessary times. Applause and clappers at every point scored should be enough to cheer and support the players......
I wonder, does those DIEHARD supporters with drums know how the players feel down there in court facing the opponents? ....DISTRACTION do exist...

Making noise only after each point is played, so as not to distract players, is only possible when play is only occuring on one court. Before the final round, matches are played simultaneously on more than one court. So, definitely cheering for one court will cause distraction on another.

Players are already used to these sort of atmosphere. They train for it, and they probably thrive on it as well.

purpledoi
05-09-2007, 08:42 AM
I guess overcoming the noise is what a professional badminton player hs to do. Since both of the opponents can hear the same thing, it doesn't benefit anybody anyway.

The Qualifying rounds are normally pretty quiet. Since there's not a lot of audience compared to the finals. Adds to the atmosphere, the kompangs and bangings and chantings and all.

:P

yuqiu
05-09-2007, 10:23 AM
I watched the MD final match. Even the commentator said the flag waving by that China supporter is really distracting. Bad for the players and the audience behind and next to him.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=31271&stc=1&d=1178526293

ants
05-09-2007, 12:22 PM
worse case of supporters jepordising a match - In the Thomas cup finals between Denmark and Indonesia in an unknown year in Thailand, Indonesian students wore white shirts and pants with black jackets and almost fully booked the stadium. They put on the black jacket when they were facing the Indonesian players, so that the Indo players could see the shuttlecock better, while the other end took off their jacket. When the players switched ends of the court, the spectators switched colours too, so the Danish players' vision were somewhat affected.

Well you cant control what the spectators wear. But im sure the players can handle it.

bpman
05-09-2007, 07:46 PM
Beautiful and good quality pics, but seems like the camera can only take photos in one direction..:confused:

cynthia
05-09-2007, 10:17 PM
bothering sometimes... but that's badminton... no crowd... it's tennis:D:D...not badminton...
but it's ok i think, the players take the support...
i like crowd, as long as there is no dirty word... :):):)

indra
05-09-2007, 10:38 PM
bothering sometimes... but that's badminton... no crowd... it's tennis:D:D...not badminton...
but it's ok i think, the players take the support...
i like crowd, as long as there is no dirty word... :):):)

The crowd in Indonesia, in the eyes of me, are the funniest and craziest in a good sense. They are the noisiest in the world, with Malaysians and Chinese crowd being number 2 and 3 respectively.

Despite being noisy, they are actually fair enough toward foreign players...

abedeng
05-09-2007, 11:13 PM
The crowd in Indonesia, in the eyes of me, are the funniest and craziest in a good sense. They are the noisiest in the world, with Malaysians and Chinese crowd being number 2 and 3 respectively.

Despite being noisy, they are actually fair enough toward foreign players...

That one I have to agree, the crowd has matured somewhat compared to the periods from the 60s to 80s.

ctjcad
05-09-2007, 11:18 PM
That one I have to agree, the crowd has matured somewhat compared to the periods from the 60s to 80s.
...mmm, meaning??...:confused: ;) :)
Or maybe those folks from the 60s and 80s have grown "older" now??..:confused:;)

abedeng
05-09-2007, 11:32 PM
Well, 20 years ago, I wouldn't venture into Istora Senayan during a badminton tournament.

But now I can feel safe. The Indonesian crowd now can accept if the home player loses.

Of course, it is very difficult to beat even the average Indonesian player in Senayan, Boonsak and Gade have found that out yesterday.