Bao can deliver only when he plays alone

[2cents]

Bao CL can deliver good results only when he plays alone. When he won his first 6 star title at Denmark in 2001, he's alone as the 2nd team, while all the senior China teammates rest at home. When he won his 6 star Korea open last year, all other national teammates, Lin Dan, Chen Hong, Chen Jin, Chen Ju were all at home resting. Now Bao CL entering the final of Indon open as last year at IO, can he win the title today?

My analysis tells me that when Bao CL still in the competition while his teammates out, then he can never win. He can only win when he plays alone. How come? It sounds weird, but it is true.

The real reason is that Bao is a long time victim of bullying. Bao looks attractive to girls, but he's weak in mind and retarded in daily life. Let me tell you a story, Bao is so dumb that never knows the draw before the tournaments. He depends on others for all the information. Once before a tournament, Bao asked Chen Hong, who's his first round opponent. and Chen Hong answered it's Taufik. Then Bao became nervous and worried, preparing for Taufik's match. In fact, Chen Hong cheated on him on purpose to scary Bao also make fun of immatured Bao. Bao was so dumb that only found out it was not Taufik when on court. Sometimes, he even never knew who he's just playing with. That's the reason he lost in so many times.

Bao is also disorganized and absent mind. If every other Chinese players are busy with playing, he's fine because nobody has time to bully him. But if other players lost, then they are going to bother Bao. Bao then could not find his cell phone, could not get better rest. All of those are that others don't want to see Bao doing better than them. Just like last year Indon open, Chen Yu lost to Taufik in semi. then Chen Yu must have tried his best to prevent Bao winning over Taufik in the final. Then Bao could not find his cell phone before the final which made this unmatured boy mental problems. Of course, after he lost the final, his cell phone back to his pocket.

This year is different, Chen Yu and Lin Dan didn't come to Indon, and Chen Jin back home in the 1st day. Only other China player Chen Hong is no longer with the national team. So Bao has a similar chance as last year Korea open. The key point for him to win is not to contact Chen Hong at all. Otherwise, he will be a victim of bullying again.

Bao likes to ask the tips and tricks from other teammates, but this could only hurt him. So never ask Chen Hong for tips and tricks against Lee CW, otherwise, he will lose for sure.

[kwun]

interesting insight.

did the information come from a reliable source? or just some wild guess and speculation in your part?

[sabathiel]

Is Chen Hong really such a real "bastard"? It's hard to believe someone would seriously do that to one's team mate. Maybe he was just joking when he lied to Bao that Bao's next opponent was Taufik and laughed his ass off when Bao found that it wasn't Taufik. I also find it hard to believe that Bao or any other player is so dumb that he never knows who he is playing according to the draw. Equally unbelievable is Bao's team mates stealing his cell phone to screw him up mentally. There were some serious allegations here and unnecessary name calling which unless is backed up by solid evidence borders defamation.

[maIRa]

owh..pity my chunlai:crying: :crying:

[Wai Shing]

lol...no offense but this story sounds silly more than anything, it sure gave me a good laugh. you make them sound like they're a bunch of high school kids playing their little dramas.
Anywho, let's see if Bao actually beats LCW tomorrow before coming to such conclusions.

[cooler]

it's humorous but needed more confirmation of its sources.
However, it is true bcl is weaker mentally than other chinese MS players.
At least now, taufik can't tease and mutters bcl as a lil boy. :eek: Was taufik bullying bcl before too?:D

[hcpoirot]

Please, not another BCL hater?

Next time, when you try to write a thread or maybe write this thread for fun only, please check the fact first. At least then you can write more accurate FALSE story.

First. In Korea Open 2006. Chen Yu also play for China team. He lost to Roslin in QF. So its not so true all top China MS rest at home.

And second: In Denmark 2001 title, BCL win against LD in final. Again, he did not play alone here.

It will be more maybe true if you said BCL had mental issue when he played in final.

Making all this up like saying all BCL teammates are very nasty guy. Have you even know LD, BCL, CY, CJ and CH personally?

[hcpoirot]

At least next time had the courtesy by writing "THIS IS ONLY A FICTION" at end of you thread if you made the thread up.

[2cents]

Both stories (Chen Hong vs Bao; and Chen Yu vs Bao) were 100% true. I didn't say who stole Bao's cell phone, it is still a mystery. But it's unlikly that Bao just could not find it before the match.

All the analysis and conclusions are mine. I think all Chinese national team treat Bao as a retarded boy. They never give Bao enough respect.

Not only the national team, even the 2nd team, 3rd team do not respect Bao either. When Li Yongbo announced policy that 2nd, 3rd team can enter 1st team by picking a 1st team player to fight. If win 2 matches lose 0; then they must switch the team. Then all the 2nd team and 3rd team players picked Bao for a fight. Even coaches got surprised, actually, the reason was simple. No body dare to challenge other players except Bao, there is nothing to do with skill or ability, all about respect. If you picked someone, you picked an enemy. Bao is a weak enemy in daily life. As simple as that.

So Li Yongbo stopped that policy very soon because of this.

[hcpoirot]

If your story is true, the only way for BCL to do is toughen up and started to win or if he can not do that, drop out from the squad.

The wisest choice is stick to the squad like a glue like ZN did. Probably he should ask ZN advice. ZN started to win against her compatriot when she was 26 or 27? Before that, most of the time she 90% always lost when she play against her teammates even her junior like Zhou Mi and Gong Rui Na.

But her patience and desire to improve her skill pay off big day!!!! ZM and GRN already gone. She win almost all top titles excluding AE. And had very big chance to represent China in Olympic 2008.

For BCL, if all this is true and you are reading this. Just Tough Up. With your skills you had a very big chance to become number 1 or 2 in squad. At least first CH already gone from the squad and CY also not young anymore. If things drag on, just play your best and I am sure BCL can at least out last Chen YU in national squad.

But I can understand why CH and CY did not like BCL. Cause he is junior and in their opponent he is not as strong as LD. So they got frustated when LYB prioritize BCL, LD and also CJ. Remember Asian Games last year and also all Thomas Cup finals.

LYB did not used CH and also CY anymore in team events. Sometimes jealousy can be a BIATCHHHH!

If this is true, I am happy CH already out from national squad! Only If

[hcpoirot]

I forgot how old is BCL and how old is CY?

From my perspective: LD, BCL and CY is now LYB top pick for next year Olympic. CY is the spare if any one of the three get injured.

The reason is simple really. Although BCL maybe cannot win a gold medal but he can ease the way for LD to win the medal by winning against lots of other players. Such as LCW, PG or TH had to fight tooth and nail if they wanted to win against BCL.

But at least CY also can thank CH for dropping out national squad cause at least he can participate in World Champion this year.

[OneToughBirdie]

Hi 2Cents...you are crossing into dangerous territory saying "Bao looks attractive to girls, but he's weak in mind and retarded in daily life". My buddy Cooler said something similar of BCL and Sickgal hated him..as of now, I am waiting for Sickgal to contact me so I can give out where Cooler play badminton...hahaha! Darn it, even my 2 geezer sisters in MAS who never play nor watch badminton at all, admire how handsome this fella is, and actually sat down with me to watch TC06 in MAS...and you dare critic BCL, not advisable thing to do.
Now, the serious part, I watched the game live with half an eye closed, I think BCL played well against TH. BCL had beaten PG, TH and the INA crowd...and if he beat LCW in MSF, darn right a truely deserving champion, tip my hat to him!:)

[Shifty]

this thread is really really stupid, i really doubt the 1st post is true. if you say so 2cents, give us the source. name it for us. i don't think his teammates are that bad, because i've played in multiple team competitions, and no one, has every done anything like that, no matter how fierce the competition is. LD is one of BCLs best friends, they're roommates for crying out loud, i don't think any bullying would come out of that. i think you're snatching at ********

[Ai Mei]

i dont believe it..........

[badmad]

yeah, it's unbelievable... if what 2cents told is correct, then Bao has been picked many times and by now, he wud hv been mentally ill. Bao has been playing badminton for so long and it makes tougher to accept what 2cents wrote.

[vching]

I dont think this is true...

please verify your sources, but it is an interesting article...

[sugar_free]

Bao CL can deliver good results only when he plays alone. When he won his first 6 star title at Denmark in 2001, he's alone as the 2nd team, while all the senior China teammates rest at home. When he won his 6 star Korea open last year, all other national teammates, Lin Dan, Chen Hong, Chen Jin, Chen Ju were all at home resting. Now Bao CL entering the final of Indon open as last year at IO, can he win the title today?

My analysis tells me that when Bao CL still in the competition while his teammates out, then he can never win. He can only win when he plays alone. How come? It sounds weird, but it is true.

The real reason is that Bao is a long time victim of bullying. Bao looks attractive to girls, but he's weak in mind and retarded in daily life. Let me tell you a story, Bao is so dumb that never knows the draw before the tournaments. He depends on others for all the information. Once before a tournament, Bao asked Chen Hong, who's his first round opponent. and Chen Hong answered it's Taufik. Then Bao became nervous and worried, preparing for Taufik's match. In fact, Chen Hong cheated on him on purpose to scary Bao also make fun of immatured Bao. Bao was so dumb that only found out it was not Taufik when on court. Sometimes, he even never knew who he's just playing with. That's the reason he lost in so many times.

Bao is also disorganized and absent mind. If every other Chinese players are busy with playing, he's fine because nobody has time to bully him. But if other players lost, then they are going to bother Bao. Bao then could not find his cell phone, could not get better rest. All of those are that others don't want to see Bao doing better than them. Just like last year Indon open, Chen Yu lost to Taufik in semi. then Chen Yu must have tried his best to prevent Bao winning over Taufik in the final. Then Bao could not find his cell phone before the final which made this unmatured boy mental problems. Of course, after he lost the final, his cell phone back to his pocket.

This year is different, Chen Yu and Lin Dan didn't come to Indon, and Chen Jin back home in the 1st day. Only other China player Chen Hong is no longer with the national team. So Bao has a similar chance as last year Korea open. The key point for him to win is not to contact Chen Hong at all. Otherwise, he will be a victim of bullying again.

Bao likes to ask the tips and tricks from other teammates, but this could only hurt him. So never ask Chen Hong for tips and tricks against Lee CW, otherwise, he will lose for sure.

Not true, Chen Jin is still in Indo... I saw him last Friday, he was reording the match, sitting on the highest seat in Istora with Lu Lan. After BCL's match against PG ends, he went back to the hotel with XXF...

Just wondering... Is Bao that stupid? And are his teammates so jealousy like that? I just doubt that story... But yeah, it is interesting...

[V_forever]

Lol no offensive wut a bunch of BSDKFJKDSFJSDf roofl i fell off my chair when iwas reading this. Dude when u tell a story of made up statistics that u "thought" are true, dont put it in such a way like its so correctly formated. I hardly doubt that the Chinese national team would do such crap to each other, they respect each other b/c each and everyone of em works hard to get the poisition to play for their country...as so for every country and from the performance BCL put up recently, its hard to ever say someones mentally weak when there so strong physically added with such confidence and as for your CH story just lol...

[Loopy]

This post is not only insulting to BCL, it is insulting to the whole China Team. Team players insulting another team player ("making fun", "look down as retarded") ? What kind of circus are you trying to pull 2cents?
This is hands down the troll post of the month.

[cooler]

Not true, Chen Jin is still in Indo... I saw him last Friday, he was reording the match, sitting on the highest seat in Istora with Lu Lan. After BCL's match against PG ends, he went back to the hotel with XXF...

Just wondering... Is Bao that stupid? And are his teammates so jealousy like that? I just doubt that story... But yeah, it is interesting...
are you starting a new rumor?:p:p

[abedeng]

I thinks stories like this should be capped, it will make us think the wrong way with Bao or other Chinese players. And that is unfair.

A retarded or bullied player cannot reach the top of the pinnacle and beat an Olympic and former World Champion at his home den so easily. Try asking someone else to do it.

Why can't we just enjoy the game, give our frank comments and acknowledge the contributions of each player in good faith, eg Bao and CH in helping LD win the WC 2006.

[2cents]

...everyone of em works hard to get the poisition to play for their country...as so for every country ...

That's the difference which made you guys hard to understand. I found that people here are always put their country first. I really don't understand why. But the fact is everyone has to put their own interest first. Professional players are no exceptional, and they should be more skillful to gain their personal interest. The whole world will become much safer if everyone can take good care of themselves instead of their countries.

[V_forever]

That my friend is ur opinion but an arragant one. I, quite confident as same as everyone else, puts their close ones and their country b4 em. If i was ever made fun of, it wouldnt upset me or push me to beat that person up but if that insult was directed right at my country or my family i'd beat the **** outta em.

And..as what u said made absolutly no connection with wut ur first topic stated so lol props to u

[2cents]

... acknowledge the contributions of each player in good faith, eg Bao and CH in helping LD win the WC 2006.

Are you insane?

What the heck Bao and CH need to help LD win the WC 2006? Great sportsmanship? or just another cheating!!! What's wrong with Bao and CH winning their own championship. CH is now playing at his own cost, ask him to help LD win WC 2006? Why you don't ask Taufik help LD to win?

[sugar_free]

Whoa its getting hot in here...

[cooler]

Lol, no... Chen Jin went in to the bus, which was leaving Istora to the Sultan, followed by XXF... The only Chinese China Players inside that bus were two of them...
:eek: i think your explanation is digging the rumor even deeper:p

[V_forever]

Lol dont be so stupid learn wut happened there LD lost the first set of both the semis and finals against CH and BCL respectively, they tried but lost to LD for the simple fact that his a world class for a reason and it though they lost, they know that CHN wud take home the title

[orchiid]

i heard that Bao is not good at selfhelp but never thought he is a man as 2cents tell us, can't believe other team mate bothered him.

i remenber a news in 2006 LYB suggested some player should go abroad alone without coachs and interpreter, and BCL was the first guy in this plan.

[Shifty]

Are you insane?

What the heck Bao and CH need to help LD win the WC 2006? Great sportsmanship? or just another cheating!!! What's wrong with Bao and CH winning their own championship. CH is now playing at his own cost, ask him to help LD win WC 2006? Why you don't ask Taufik help LD to win?

it's called clearing a roadblock. that's a china tactic, spread your guys in the draw and knock off as many seeds or liekly winners as possible, even if you lose, you tire them out. so that's why BCL and CH helped LD win. if you think about it, between CH and BCL, they took out Lee Choong Wei, Taufik, Peter Gade and Lee Hyun Il, so ain't that a great help?

[cooler]

on the positive side, if BCL has those qualities as stated by 2cents, BCL would do well in big pressure event like noisy Indo crowd or pressure cooker olympic game because BCL would be too blur to be affected by those outside distraction:D

[JaCk™]

BCL definitely has the potential. he was the world junior champion and did better than lin dan during his junior days. but what happen after that is history. right now, we can say that china even without lin dan, still can wins..

[Shifty]

That's the difference which made you guys hard to understand. I found that people here are always put their country first. I really don't understand why. But the fact is everyone has to put their own interest first. Professional players are no exceptional, and they should be more skillful to gain their personal interest. The whole world will become much safer if everyone can take good care of themselves instead of their countries.

you CAN"T be serious. what you just said is a disgrace and disrespectful comment to many, including soldiers who died for their country. if your comment is true, then wouldn't every soldier think about survival over serving their country, or their mates? ever heard of people jumping on grenades to save their squad? happened a lot on Iwo Jima. in almost any subject, at the highest level, country and teammates come far before personal gains. it's these people, who put themselves above their personal gains who are true champions, and i'm sure that no one in team china is as sad as to stab your own teammate in the back.

have you played in a team tie? i have, and i have to say, no matter how much i want to bet teammates in individual tournaments, i don't stab them in the back, i don't bully them and i sure as hell don't trick them. that team spirit is in every person in team china, because they train together, live together, and even results are collected together. why else, in every news paper or article on tournament results, it's always, "China bags 4" or "China takes 3" DISPITE the fact it's almost always an individual tournament. team China is a team, and work together as one.

[cao ci dan]

..How come? It sounds weird, but it is true...
Man,you're making fun on Bao!
But I had a good laugh:p

[cao ci dan]

Lol, no... Chen Jin went in to the bus, which was leaving Istora to the Sultan, followed by XXF... The only Chinese China Players inside that bus were two of them...
:D You should stop before LD find out!:p

[vching]

That's the difference which made you guys hard to understand. I found that people here are always put their country first. I really don't understand why. But the fact is everyone has to put their own interest first. Professional players are no exceptional, and they should be more skillful to gain their personal interest. The whole world will become much safer if everyone can take good care of themselves instead of their countries.
i think 2cents is trying to stoke some fire and pour some salt onto the wounds here.... and he suceeded:


you CAN"T be serious. what you just said is a disgrace and disrespectful comment to many, including soldiers who died for their country. if your comment is true, then wouldn't every soldier think about survival over serving their country, or their mates? ever heard of people jumping on grenades to save their squad? happened a lot on Iwo Jima. in almost any subject, at the highest level, country and teammates come far before personal gains. it's these people, who put themselves above their personal gains who are true champions, and i'm sure that no one in team china is as sad as to stab your own teammate in the back.

have you played in a team tie? i have, and i have to say, no matter how much i want to bet teammates in individual tournaments, i don't stab them in the back, i don't bully them and i sure as hell don't trick them. that team spirit is in every person in team china, because they train together, live together, and even results are collected together. why else, in every news paper or article on tournament results, it's always, "China bags 4" or "China takes 3" DISPITE the fact it's almost always an individual tournament. team China is a team, and work together as one.

however, the more i think about it, the more i am inclined to believe 2cents, although not entirely... i think he exagurated it a bit :P :D

[Pokemon]

this sound ridiculous to me..
It's true that everyone have freedom to say what they want, but making up story like this(i hv to say so as no source being given) is too much.

[2cents]

may i ask you where all these "stories" come from

Of course, they are all inside stories. It's okay you don't believe it. I just want to share with friends who believe it or enjoy it.

[snasirin]

They said LCW will not win ... and yet BCL lost to LCW in less than 15 minutes in the first set.

[Dimplex]

They said LCW will not win ... and yet BCL lost to LCW in less than 15 minutes in the first set.

lol:):):):):):):):)
i have nothing else to say

[alfa-2]

They said LCW will not win ... and yet BCL lost to LCW in less than 15 minutes in the first set.

LCW played extremely well plus it is a bonus when BCL wasnt in his usual form......or maybe BCL was over confidence after the win over TH.......

[Cheung]

All the analysis and conclusions are mine. I think all Chinese national team treat Bao as a retarded boy. They never give Bao enough respect.

.I think the term should not be 'retarded'. That is not a good word to use.

Would 'naive' and 'gullible' be better words?;)

[pjswift]

on the positive side, if BCL has those qualities as stated by 2cents, BCL would do well in big pressure event like noisy Indo crowd or pressure cooker olympic game because BCL would be too blur to be affected by those outside distraction:D
Very possible..LD would get too affected to play. Come to think of it,it's not easy to reach two consecutive IO MSF but BCL did it last year and this year.Yes, in such situations it's good to be blur.Good note.

[shyeling]

this thread is really really stupid, i really doubt the 1st post is true. if you say so 2cents, give us the source. name it for us. i don't think his teammates are that bad, because i've played in multiple team competitions, and no one, has every done anything like that, no matter how fierce the competition is. LD is one of BCLs best friends, they're roommates for crying out loud, i don't think any bullying would come out of that. i think you're snatching at ********

bao is no longer lin dan's roommate.. lin dan's roommates recently is chen jin which i knew it from an article about chen jin's interview..

[ants]

Not true, Chen Jin is still in Indo... I saw him last Friday, he was reording the match, sitting on the highest seat in Istora with Lu Lan. After BCL's match against PG ends, he went back to the hotel with XXF...

Just wondering... Is Bao that stupid? And are his teammates so jealousy like that? I just doubt that story... But yeah, it is interesting...

I agree with you. If he lose early, Chen Jin is in charge of recording matches for coaches and teammates.

[cooler]

bao is no longer lin dan's roommate.. lin dan's roommates recently is chen jin which i knew it from an article about chen jin's interview..
hahaha, no wonder xxf is often sticking close to CJ;)

[cooler]

Now that BCL has lost, will somone return BCL's cellphone please?:p:D:p

[ye333]

Hard to believe! But I think the other story, that "2nd and 3rd team players picking Bao for a fight" sounds reasonable. Although the explanation could be that Bao is a very nice and kind guy and there is no harm picking him for a fight since he will not be offended (and then will not be angry at the young man who challenged him). "disrespect" is too strong a word...


Bao CL can deliver good results only when he plays alone. When he won his first 6 star title at Denmark in 2001, he's alone as the 2nd team, while all the senior China teammates rest at home. When he won his 6 star Korea open last year, all other national teammates, Lin Dan, Chen Hong, Chen Jin, Chen Ju were all at home resting. Now Bao CL entering the final of Indon open as last year at IO, can he win the title today?

My analysis tells me that when Bao CL still in the competition while his teammates out, then he can never win. He can only win when he plays alone. How come? It sounds weird, but it is true.

The real reason is that Bao is a long time victim of bullying. Bao looks attractive to girls, but he's weak in mind and retarded in daily life. Let me tell you a story, Bao is so dumb that never knows the draw before the tournaments. He depends on others for all the information. Once before a tournament, Bao asked Chen Hong, who's his first round opponent. and Chen Hong answered it's Taufik. Then Bao became nervous and worried, preparing for Taufik's match. In fact, Chen Hong cheated on him on purpose to scary Bao also make fun of immatured Bao. Bao was so dumb that only found out it was not Taufik when on court. Sometimes, he even never knew who he's just playing with. That's the reason he lost in so many times.

Bao is also disorganized and absent mind. If every other Chinese players are busy with playing, he's fine because nobody has time to bully him. But if other players lost, then they are going to bother Bao. Bao then could not find his cell phone, could not get better rest. All of those are that others don't want to see Bao doing better than them. Just like last year Indon open, Chen Yu lost to Taufik in semi. then Chen Yu must have tried his best to prevent Bao winning over Taufik in the final. Then Bao could not find his cell phone before the final which made this unmatured boy mental problems. Of course, after he lost the final, his cell phone back to his pocket.

This year is different, Chen Yu and Lin Dan didn't come to Indon, and Chen Jin back home in the 1st day. Only other China player Chen Hong is no longer with the national team. So Bao has a similar chance as last year Korea open. The key point for him to win is not to contact Chen Hong at all. Otherwise, he will be a victim of bullying again.

Bao likes to ask the tips and tricks from other teammates, but this could only hurt him. So never ask Chen Hong for tips and tricks against Lee CW, otherwise, he will lose for sure.

[malaysia boleh?]

2cents, I'll kindly give you another cent. So you'll become 3cents. Don't need to thank me, just stop talking rubbish here. Dicipline is very important in Team China. LYB is in full control. No player is allowed to fool around. Although I don't support LD,CH and CY, I do think they deserve something better. Kindly stop damaging their reputation. Shame on you.

[pjswift]

2cents, I'll kindly give you another cent. So you'll become 3cents. Don't need to thank me, just stop talking rubbish here. Dicipline is very important in Team China. LYB is in full control. No player is allowed to fool around. Although I don't support LD,CH and CY, I do think they deserve something better. Kindly stop damaging their reputation. Shame on you.
At least we get some inside story about the Team CHN. I don't think 2cents is deliberately malicious or rude;just that English is not his first language. But as a 2nd or 3rd language ,the standard is pretty good.(I know I can't even write at his level with my second language.Can any of you?)
The important thing to remember in reading 2cents is to allow for some poor usage of vocabulary, as Cheung has pointed out.
So, 2cents, please continue with your Team CHN insights. I enjoy them,with some automatic censorship.

[tjl_vanguard]

its just too hard to believe this.... :(

[azabaz_ipoh]

ermm....just one question. not being sarcastic here. just honestly wanted to know. you said bao did not know who he was going to play and chen hong lied and said it was taufik instead of himself. now my question is, did the coach not discuss strategy before a match to know how to defeat the next opponent? if that is the case, wouldn't LYB already discussed with BCl on how to defeat the next opponent which in this case was chen hong? and if LYB never discuss with the player if the next opponent is their teammate, wouldn't that gave a clue to BCL that taufik is not his next opponent? i always believed that coaches talk to their players before each match to discuss tactic and such. is that not true for china? or any other team?

ok sorry, one question turned into one too many. :D forgive me. but i still want to know the answer. :)

[2cents]

ermm....just one question. not being sarcastic here. just honestly wanted to know. you said bao did not know who he was going to play and chen hong lied and said it was taufik instead of himself. now my question is, did the coach not discuss strategy before a match to know how to defeat the next opponent? if that is the case, wouldn't LYB already discussed with BCl on how to defeat the next opponent which in this case was chen hong? and if LYB never discuss with the player if the next opponent is their teammate, wouldn't that gave a clue to BCL that taufik is not his next opponent? i always believed that coaches talk to their players before each match to discuss tactic and such. is that not true for china? or any other team?

ok sorry, one question turned into one too many. :D forgive me. but i still want to know the answer. :)

Good question!

Unfortunately, first, LYB's usually not directly coaching men's singles.

second, Chinese coaches knew very little and very late about the draws because they don't know English.

third, they did have extensive trainings against their top opponents like Taufik, Gade and Lee CW. Some 2nd team players mimic those players in the training. But sometimes, they didn't know their 1st round opponents until they arrived the venue. and some other times, they even got erroneous draws don't know where it came from.

[azabaz_ipoh]

thanks for the answer. if that is the case, maybe the china team should employ one translator just to help out with the other language, mainly english when competing at other venues. i believe they should be fully prepared and ready for anything. and pro level should mean knowing all your informationand facts be it the venue, the opponent or the draw.

[Felicia_txh]

thanks for the answer. if that is the case, maybe the china team should employ one translator just to help out with the other language, mainly english when competing at other venues. i believe they should be fully prepared and ready for anything. and pro level should mean knowing all your informationand facts be it the venue, the opponent or the draw.
Depend on the translator is one of the solution!!Education play an important role here!!:cool:

[jimbo]

thanks for the answer. if that is the case, maybe the china team should employ one translator just to help out with the other language, mainly english when competing at other venues. i believe they should be fully prepared and ready for anything. and pro level should mean knowing all your informationand facts be it the venue, the opponent or the draw.

*LOL* I dont mind to be the translator if they allow me to take photos with LD or XXF :eek: :D

[KlasseE]

Mentally the participation of CH to recent SS really affect majority of top shuttlers to feature hardly for their country. My guess, they (including LD and XXF) had fighted against LYB to share more of the prizes they had achieved, and seek for permission to participate private activities for big sum of extra commercial income, just like what CH is currently doing, so called individual enterprise? it really was a key factor which affected their showing in recent SS. Regret to say this is just what I guess n hope someone could find it out from Chinese forum especially from LI De Quan or 2cents.....thanks

[bic33]

i very much pity bao... on a given day, he plays possesed, beating taufik.. and on the next day, he self-destructs against LCW... dang, he'll keep the mr. runner up title if he keeps on doing that...

[dannyang]

Good question!

Unfortunately, first, LYB's usually not directly coaching men's singles.

second, Chinese coaches knew very little and very late about the draws because they don't know English.

third, they did have extensive trainings against their top opponents like Taufik, Gade and Lee CW. Some 2nd team players mimic those players in the training. But sometimes, they didn't know their 1st round opponents until they arrived the venue. and some other times, they even got erroneous draws don't know where it came from.

hardly believe it ! there is no translator in China national team?
and the draws are all about names, it's easy to understand.
LYB has been the coach for ages. can't he guess what TH, lcw, hafiz.. mean?
you mentioned that Bao's next opponent is his teamate CH. you think Bao and LYB still need a person to translate "Ban Chunlai vs Chen Hong" ?

by the way, interesting story, but can't believe.

[LazyBuddy]

I think all Chinese national team treat Bao as a retarded boy. They never give Bao enough respect.



You setup your own image in front of the public. Even though, I don't encourage anyone to bully others, but I have to say, the "target" must have his/her own problem need to face to change the situation as well.

Also, if you come to a tourny, even does not know who to play against for the next match, is hardly others' fault. :cool:

[hcyong]

Very hard to believe such a well-oiled machinery like Chinese badminton team can have trouble with the draw. Even hiring Li De Quan alone is enough to solve their problems.

[chgoh25]

i dont believe it

[zqloy]

Very hard to believe such a well-oiled machinery like Chinese badminton team can have trouble with the draw. Even hiring Li De Quan alone is enough to solve their problems.

Lol... spot on! They should hire Li De Quan instead..... :D:D:D

[Misty100]

This is the greatest joke in badminton history. Such a LAME excuse.

Yeah, LI De Quan should appoint himself as CHN team translator... and i am sure he's really good at it too.

[OneToughBirdie]

Now that BCL has lost, will somone return BCL's cellphone please?:p:D:p
Are you kidding?...do you realize how popular BCL is or the fans following he has got? BCL cell is worth a mint, lordy knows how much $$$ you can get...return it...try auction on ebay, hahaha! LOL!:D :p :D

[OneToughBirdie]

And if you realize how much BCL cell can fetch on ebay...if imagine how much BCL underwear, especially game used is worth...so advice to BCL, if you think losing cell is bad, think of the unimaginable, and hang dearly onto your underwear, hahaha! LOL!:p

[V_forever]

2cents, I'll kindly give you another cent. So you'll become 3cents. Don't need to thank me, just stop talking rubbish here. Dicipline is very important in Team China. LYB is in full control. No player is allowed to fool around. Although I don't support LD,CH and CY, I do think they deserve something better. Kindly stop damaging their reputation. Shame on you.

Agree 110%


At least we get some inside story about the Team CHN. I don't think 2cents is deliberately malicious or rude;just that English is not his first language. But as a 2nd or 3rd language ,the standard is pretty good.(I know I can't even write at his level with my second language.Can any of you?)
The important thing to remember in reading 2cents is to allow for some poor usage of vocabulary, as Cheung has pointed out.
So, 2cents, please continue with your Team CHN insights. I enjoy them,with some automatic censorship.

Lol funny, his words were as accurate as it gets as a direct insult and lol u actually think that those are some true stories about CHN team and that information about the team and its members would get out or such that a fool like such would be able manipulate?

[markchan]

If there is any inkling of truth in 2cents story, then do you think it also happens in the other squads like MAS or INA ?? If yes, who do you think is the bully and who is the weakling??

[pjswift]

Agree 110%



Lol funny, his words were as accurate as it gets as a direct insult and lol u actually think that those are some true stories about CHN team and that information about the team and its members would get out or such that a fool like such would be able manipulate?
It would be foolish to believe everything that is put out.It is like surfing the internet;so much info , so much rubbish but there will still be gems.That's why in this age, it's not so much how much you know that matters, it's how well you can sieve out the gems from the garbage and that means developing an uncanny sense of judgement.
2cents details are useful. I use it to get a general picture of CHN team.But BCL is probably quite blur. Cooler's deduction that the blurness probably shield him from the merciless INA crowd may be spot on. BCL talks to himself a lot during play,another way to shut out the crowd and motivate himself.
But I just wonder. How does CHN register its players if there are no translators?

[pjswift]

If there is any inkling of truth in 2cents story, then do you think it also happens in the other squads like MAS or INA ?? If yes, who do you think is the bully and who is the weakling??
No team is likely to be one big,happy family. There is likely to be rivalry,varying in terms of intensity, not necessarily of bully/weakling nature.
From my observations of the 1st round match in AOS07 btw Hafiz vs LCW, I would say Hafiz is envious of LCW and that's why he is so determined to defeat LCW which he did. If anybody puts Hafiz's consistent failures down to his lack of determination and motivation,think again.Hafiz has determination; unfortunately he reserves to maximise it only for LCW, so strong is his envy. (And LCW is dumb to be so kind to him) I now believe that Hafiz has no reason to be in the National team because he will not deliver. If he cannot be dropped, then he should only be sent to 3* tournaments where he would rule as king because that's what he wants to be: King, without much effort.WCH, YKB or even Roslin would do better than Hafiz.

[robin7]

I think BCl is a bit blur and absent-minded but not as dumb as described.
Anyway, I don't like his style of playing - too sissy and boring....
But, I feel really sorry for him being overshadowed by LD over these years.
I was happy LCW finally won IO but felt really sorry for BCL losing it again.

[2cents]

...Hafiz has determination; unfortunately he reserves to maximise it only for LCW, so strong is his envy. ....

It is human nature and simple math. Any professional players based on country quatos must fight to be better than his/her country men/women first. If there is any fault, this is not players fault, it is the fault of IBF which treat players differently. For example, even the number 4 in the world (Chen Hong or Chen YU) cannot play Olympics, and even number 3 in the world (Bao CL or Chen Jin) cannot play Asian games. So a player wants to win, he has to win against his teammates first.

Even Bao CL's father understands this. He said millions of times that Bao should forget all the other players, just try to beat Lin Dan first, otherwise he would never be the best in the world.

When I tell you guys the stories. I didn't distain either Bao or his teammates. It's just human nature. But unfortunately, so many fans here were so stupid to disdain me. They were so naive that thought all the professionals were as stupid as they were to fight for their country and their teammates. Grow up, please.

[koo_fan]

Bao CL can deliver good results only when he plays alone. When he won his first 6 star title at Denmark in 2001, he's alone as the 2nd team, while all the senior China teammates rest at home. When he won his 6 star Korea open last year, all other national teammates, Lin Dan, Chen Hong, Chen Jin, Chen Ju were all at home resting. Now Bao CL entering the final of Indon open as last year at IO, can he win the title today?

My analysis tells me that when Bao CL still in the competition while his teammates out, then he can never win. He can only win when he plays alone. How come? It sounds weird, but it is true.

The real reason is that Bao is a long time victim of bullying. Bao looks attractive to girls, but he's weak in mind and retarded in daily life. Let me tell you a story, Bao is so dumb that never knows the draw before the tournaments. He depends on others for all the information. Once before a tournament, Bao asked Chen Hong, who's his first round opponent. and Chen Hong answered it's Taufik. Then Bao became nervous and worried, preparing for Taufik's match. In fact, Chen Hong cheated on him on purpose to scary Bao also make fun of immatured Bao. Bao was so dumb that only found out it was not Taufik when on court. Sometimes, he even never knew who he's just playing with. That's the reason he lost in so many times.

Bao is also disorganized and absent mind. If every other Chinese players are busy with playing, he's fine because nobody has time to bully him. But if other players lost, then they are going to bother Bao. Bao then could not find his cell phone, could not get better rest. All of those are that others don't want to see Bao doing better than them. Just like last year Indon open, Chen Yu lost to Taufik in semi. then Chen Yu must have tried his best to prevent Bao winning over Taufik in the final. Then Bao could not find his cell phone before the final which made this unmatured boy mental problems. Of course, after he lost the final, his cell phone back to his pocket.

This year is different, Chen Yu and Lin Dan didn't come to Indon, and Chen Jin back home in the 1st day. Only other China player Chen Hong is no longer with the national team. So Bao has a similar chance as last year Korea open. The key point for him to win is not to contact Chen Hong at all. Otherwise, he will be a victim of bullying again.

Bao likes to ask the tips and tricks from other teammates, but this could only hurt him. So never ask Chen Hong for tips and tricks against Lee CW, otherwise, he will lose for sure.
is that based on ur opinion,ur thought?? that arrogant BCL is a victim?? make sure it is a fact not ur imagination. sorry but i cant accept ur opinion.

[Joyous]

The best that one can draw much from Bao's character is from his blog. Read the way he expresses himself about the beach and his tiredness athough this may not necessary be conclusive of his character. But he seems to quite a contended person.

[koo_fan]

The best that one can draw much from Bao's character is from his blog. Read the way he expresses himself about the beach and his tiredness athough this may not necessary be conclusive of his character. But he seems to quite a contended person.
give the summary.i would like make a survey. it may change my recent perception about this chinese.