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tjl_vanguard
05-16-2007, 11:26 PM
so far, its not yet finalized.. but i hope it will be as follows....

MS: LEE Chong Wei
MD: KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
WS: WONG Mew Choo
WD: WONG Pei Tty/CHIN Eei Hui
XD: MOHD. Fairuzizuan Tazari/WONG Pei Tty

wad do u ppl think?? :D :D :D :D :D

hcyong
05-16-2007, 11:28 PM
It's not too difficult to come up with this lineup, is it?

markchan
05-17-2007, 02:14 AM
Yup, agreed with the line up. This should be our 1st team.
Can we afford to rest some of these players when playing against ENG/THA ??

tjl_vanguard
05-17-2007, 02:24 AM
Yup, agreed with the line up. This should be our 1st team.
Can we afford to rest some of these players when playing against ENG/THA ??
maybe... maybe not... better dont let them catch us offguard... :D

Cannot_smash
05-17-2007, 02:25 AM
About the MXD, would Fairuz be better off than KKK?

tjl_vanguard
05-17-2007, 02:30 AM
About the MXD, would Fairuz be better off than KKK?
u mean.. putting kkk for xd instead of fairuz??? :D

hcyong
05-17-2007, 02:40 AM
About the MXD, would Fairuz be better off than KKK?

Against England, Thailand and China (Indonesia and Korea, too), no matter what XD pair we field, we are bound to lose that point anyway. May as well put KKK where his contribution is more crucial.

utopia_imminent
05-17-2007, 02:49 AM
Against England, Thailand and China (Indonesia and Korea, too), no matter what XD pair we field, we are bound to lose that point anyway. May as well put KKK where his contribution is more crucial.

dun mind enlightening me on where KKK's contribution is more/most crucial? he hasn't been doing well in MD. The KKK/TBH did well for a while and won a lot including the All-England but they have dropped in standard. CTF/LWW is a much better pair. Even Mohd Zakry Abdul Laitff and Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari are seemingly better than Rexy's 'golden' pair that is being groomed to win the 2008 Olympics.

Misty100
05-17-2007, 03:38 AM
KKK/TBH are having a dry spell, and this usually happens when young men experienced "cloud 9" success. But I honestly think the few defeats lately did do them alot of good and they will eventually bounce back, just wait and see. They can be even better than before. Afterall, we have Rexy, and Rexy will not just let them go to waste. Have a little faith, they are still a young pair, they need time to settle in.

Dreamzz
05-17-2007, 04:55 AM
yeah, i don't think we should expose them to 2 events.
either KKK/TBH for MD or KKK/WPT for XD.
if KKK is playing XD, then possibly have Zakry/Tazari for MD, they have been performing well lately.

hcyong
05-17-2007, 05:43 AM
dun mind enlightening me on where KKK's contribution is more/most crucial? he hasn't been doing well in MD. The KKK/TBH did well for a while and won a lot including the All-England but they have dropped in standard. CTF/LWW is a much better pair. Even Mohd Zakry Abdul Laitff and Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari are seemingly better than Rexy's 'golden' pair that is being groomed to win the 2008 Olympics.

No, I don't mind enlightening you. KKK's contribution in MD is more crucial.

hcpoirot
05-17-2007, 02:38 PM
Remember that this is a team event. Not usual individuAL events.

KKK at least had lots of team experience. Thomas Cup 2006 and Asian Games 2006.

Where as Zakry/Tazari never play team event before. Maybe Malaysia can put them when play against China for experience only. But against Thai Land and England, KKK/TBH still the best bet.

Mental strength always had a major role in team events.

If the score is tie 1-1 or even 2-1 not in favor for Malaysia, Zakry/Tanzari probably collapse

tjl_vanguard
05-17-2007, 11:24 PM
KKK
- Thomas Cup '04, '06
- SEA Games '05
- Commonwealth Games (Mixed Team Event) '06
- Asian Games (Team Event) '06

soleha
05-18-2007, 12:45 AM
just hope the best for them...:)

tjl_vanguard
05-18-2007, 12:55 AM
haha... i think got a good chance to finish top4 ... :D hopefully...

Jessica
05-18-2007, 02:51 AM
Hopefully Mas team can display good results...

hcyong
05-18-2007, 03:13 AM
haha... i think got a good chance to finish top4 ... :D hopefully...

It will be a disaster if we cannot finish top 4, ie. lose to Thailand or England or both.

abedeng
05-18-2007, 09:51 AM
A bigger disaster if we get relegated (God forbid).

Last time we had the excuse of not having world class women players, but not anymore .....

Makkem_1
05-19-2007, 01:42 AM
so far, its not yet finalized.. but i hope it will be as follows....

MS: LEE Chong Wei
MD: KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
WS: WONG Mew Choo
WD: WONG Pei Tty/CHIN Eei Hui
XD: MOHD. Fairuzizuan Tazari/WONG Pei Tty

wad do u ppl think?? :D :D :D :D :D

I think England are dead!: still, it'll keep the Scots happy

KKK/TBH vs Clark/Blair - I only give the England/Scotland pair a 25% chance against the hottest property in badminton: I hope they can show me wrong, but what makes it even worse is that Rexy coached England and so knows this pair inside out. And 7% of that is for home advantage. [straight sets to Malaysia]

MOHD. Fairuzizuan Tazari/Wong Pei Tty vs Robertson/Emms: If they play well, the world champions should come through [Robertson/ Emms in 3 games]

WONG Mew Choo vs Tracey Hallam: Wong is an awesome player, she's really improved - something has really clicked. A couple of years ago I would have said Hallam would walk this match for England, for our second point. But I think Wong will win easily

Wong Pei Tty/ Chin Eei Hui vs Kellogg/Emms: A tough one, but I think that the English girls can do the business here, as they did well in the Indonesian open.. I'm open to convincing tho as I don't follow women's doubles.

Chong Wei LEE vs Andrew SMITH: If Andrew can take a game he will be ecstatic, considering he got owned by backup player Yeoh Kay Bin 21-11, 21-4 [ouch] last week, but Chong Wei is in a different class.

Verdict: England lose 3-2 because of an improved WS. Traditionally, we depend on our women to get their points and our mixed pair to win it. Frankly, our men suck especially at singles [Why we can't produce any genuine singles players? I guess the intensity of training isn't there, and they all play the wrong badminton]. Though Clark/Blair flatter to decieve, they are a journeyman pair that - except for a WC final reached, then trashed by Cai/Fu - aren't worth their high ranking. The Asian pairs play fewer tournaments. I don't think they can beat KKK/TBH.

I have split loyalties, I must admit. I want England to win, even though they won't, but LCW is my favourite player, and I would support him even against Smith [I do feel a bit guilty of this]. Anyway, I hope Smith takes a game, but he can't win.

Makkem_1
05-19-2007, 02:00 AM
England/ Thailand

Ponsana vs Smith: Ponsana should win on his current form, he is fit and strong, but he does play too much crosscourt so Smith has a chance.

The mixed should be close but Robertson/ Emms should win.

Men's doubles: Blair/Clark outrank Anugritayawon/Prapkamol[71] and should win really. One where our men's pair should win.

Women's doubles: Could be really close: Emms/Kellogg are top 10 but Thailand have 2 strong pairs at 15/16 in the world. Hopefully a home win

Womens singles: No clue, but assuming England play Hallam and Thailand Meemeak on world ranking Hallam is better and has been a top 10. Hallam is hard to play because she is very physical for WS, and on this basis was a top 10. Hallam to win?

Verdict: England should win, but Thailand have a strong mixed pair and a chance in all of the matches. Bizarrely, it is the men who can take this tie for England. [England 4-1 Thailand]

ronnie14
05-23-2007, 09:28 PM
have faith mlsians :) dats a good team we r having

X Ball
05-23-2007, 10:37 PM
so far, its not yet finalized.. but i hope it will be as follows....

MS: LEE Chong Wei
MD: KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
WS: WONG Mew Choo
WD: WONG Pei Tty/CHIN Eei Hui
XD: MOHD. Fairuzizuan Tazari/WONG Pei Tty

wad do u ppl think?? :D :D :D :D :D


AWESOME !

Team sports produce different results, e.g. in TENNIS DAVIS Cup, even a team without a top player can win because the level of motivation is different.

If MAS can gel the team together to think positively I think MAS has a chance as good as China. LCW is getting into peak form (after IO, he just strolled in at the Pahang Open); KKK-TBH are slowly working themselves back into top form, and if WMC can call on her best on the day, everything is possible.

abedeng
05-24-2007, 07:19 AM
A bit of concern with Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui combination, they are still in top 10, but for the past few tourneys, injuries and lack of fitness had taken its toll.

Worse, Wong is probably due to play XD to try and win a shock point against more fancied opposition. We know she is capable of doing that, proven with WC and AG XD bronze medals last year.

While I still believe this MAS WD pair are better than ENG and THA top pair, it is going to be really close and MAS should reconsider playing Wong in two events.

amaze
05-24-2007, 09:24 AM
No, I don't mind enlightening you. KKK's contribution in MD is more crucial.

Opinion seconded.:)

Misty100
05-24-2007, 09:27 AM
MAS supporters, don't be too optimistic at this stage, WMC is down with a knee injury. So is CEH, she is still nursing a nagging knee injury, so she is not in good shape. If WPT is playing in both WD and XD, I am afraid she will be burnt out before the the semis starts. And lately, Julia Wong and Lydia Cheah are not playing true to their capabilities, losing in the early rounds at Pahang Open and ROBOT Vietnam Challenger are a grave concerned. Let's all hope and pray WMC will be in shape and fit when the SC starts about 2 weeks time. CEH is undergoing therapy, and she can only do light training. I think Yap KH is having a tough time scratching his head right now.

tjl_vanguard
05-24-2007, 06:52 PM
WMC is well known for her fighting spirit!!! so i dont worry that much.. although she loses, she will always fight till the last point!!! :D :D :D :D

pjswift
05-24-2007, 09:34 PM
A bit of concern with Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui combination, they are still in top 10, but for the past few tourneys, injuries and lack of fitness had taken its toll.

Worse, Wong is probably due to play XD to try and win a shock point against more fancied opposition. We know she is capable of doing that, proven with WC and AG XD bronze medals last year.

While I still believe this MAS WD pair are better than ENG and THA top pair, it is going to be really close and MAS should reconsider playing Wong in two events.
Totally agree. Like you say, Wong just play WD vs ENG and THA ,dumping the XD but play XD vs CHN where an upset is possible.Wong's a very good player;her opportunities to go deeper or win titles have been compromised because of playing two events.SC (like TC for KKK) should be used to see how well she can perform when she only needs to concentrate on one event.

champion8
05-25-2007, 02:47 AM
MAS supporters, don't be too optimistic at this stage, WMC is down with a knee injury. So is CEH, she is still nursing a nagging knee injury, so she is not in good shape. If WPT is playing in both WD and XD, I am afraid she will be burnt out before the the semis starts. And lately, Julia Wong and Lydia Cheah are not playing true to their capabilities, losing in the early rounds at Pahang Open and ROBOT Vietnam Challenger are a grave concerned. Let's all hope and pray WMC will be in shape and fit when the SC starts about 2 weeks time. CEH is undergoing therapy, and she can only do light training. I think Yap KH is having a tough time scratching his head right now.

I heard Julia Wong is also having some knee problem and Lydia having some back injury.

tjl_vanguard
05-25-2007, 02:54 AM
I heard Julia Wong is also having some knee problem and Lydia having some back injury.
haha
this doesn sound good rite??? haihz... :cool:

huangkwokhau
05-25-2007, 06:43 PM
It is official that BAM will take 10 players only:

1. Lee chong Wei and Wong Choong Hann
2. Wong Mei Choo and Anita Raj kaur
3. Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
4. Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui
5. Tan Wee Kiong/ Woon Khe Wei

I do not understand why BAM will not take some back-up platers especially for Double.

XD is pretty weak and the choice of Anita Raj Kaur is raising some doubts...

fook1125
05-25-2007, 07:40 PM
I think that m'sia is thinking that xd can wong choong hann/wong pei tty,coz tan wee kiong/woon khe wei is very weak

fook1125
05-25-2007, 07:41 PM
i think ws they choose anita coz wpx so bad,she lose in vietnam challenge first round,while cheah li ya were not sure and she has hurt

huangkwokhau
05-25-2007, 07:43 PM
i think ws they choose anita coz wpx so bad,she lose in vietnam challenge first round,while cheah li ya were not sure and she has hurt

anita lost frist round also...I have not seen her performing well lately either...
I guess MAS will depend on WMC...

huangkwokhau
05-25-2007, 08:55 PM
i think ws they choose anita coz wpx so bad,she lose in vietnam challenge first round,while cheah li ya were not sure and she has hurt

I think Lydia is okay...she will play in Sinagpore next week with Julia ewonga s top seed but unlucky for Lydia,....Zhou Mi is her first opponent....tough luck!!!:(

champion8
05-25-2007, 09:33 PM
I think Lydia is okay...she will play in Sinagpore next week with Julia ewonga s top seed but unlucky for Lydia,....Zhou Mi is her first opponent....tough luck!!!:(

I hope Lydia will take all this positively as she is still young. Look like her luck was not that good lately with her back injury, her lost in Pahang, tough draw in Korea and Singapore lately.

Lydia, if u happened to read this forum.... Look forward and train hard to be the best.

huangkwokhau
05-25-2007, 09:42 PM
I hope Lydia will take all this positively as she is still young. Look like her luck was not that good lately with her back injury, her lost in Pahang, tough draw in Korea and Singapore lately.

Lydia, if u happened to read this forum.... Look forward and train hard to be the best.

Then she will be facing zhou Mi....very tough luck...:(:( hope she can gain more experiences by playing zhou Mi

Felicia_txh
05-25-2007, 11:55 PM
Then she will be facing zhou Mi....very tough luck...:(:( hope she can gain more experiences by playing zhou Mi
Ya..actually a tough opponent doesn't mean that she cant defeat her!!She is still young!!there is still room for her to improve!!I believe she can learn something different fr tat match!!;)

nwy5633
05-26-2007, 02:41 AM
i think women single & women double no need any back up..
so we should slot choong tan fook/lee wan wah to the last 2 namelist..
if Lee Chong Wei didn't play the MS event, then MAS 100% will lost 1 point..
so why we need Choon Hann which i think is a littlebit useless...
if we let Lee/Choong in..
then maybe if MAS wan to play some strategy..
they can go for it like this...
MS- Lee Chong Wei
MD- Lee Wan Wah/Choong Tan Fook
WS- Wong Mew Choo
WD- Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui
XD - Koo Kien Keat/Wong Pei Tty
i think maybe this can give some differences to MAS team..

Felicia_txh
05-26-2007, 02:53 AM
Badminton: Fairuzizuan off the Sudirman list

By : K.M. Boopathy (boopathy@nstp.com.my)

http://www.nst.com.my/Saturday/Sport/20070526075951/insidepix1
Fairuzizuan Tazari was left out of the Sudirman Cup to allow him to concentrate on the China, Thailand and Philippines Opens.

THE BA of Malaysia (BAM) yesterday served a surprise when they dropped Fairuzizuan Tazari and included junior shuttler Tan Wee Kiong in the Sudirman Cup squad.
However, Fairuzizuan’s omission is not due to his poor performance but upon the request of national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky.

The coach wants the 24-year-old shuttler, and his doubles partner Zakry Latif, to focus on their preparation for the China, Thailand and Philippines Opens in July.

Fairuz-Zakry, currently ranked World No 45, need to do well in the three tournaments to improve their ranking and earn a top eight seeding in the World Championships in Kuala Lumpur on Aug 13-19.

Rexy had also included Wee Kiong in the squad for the Sudirman Cup in Glasgow on June 11-17, as the shuttler can combine with his regular partner Woon Khe Wei in the mixed doubles.
Sudirman Cup is a team event where each tie has a combination of men’s singles and doubles, women’s singles and doubles as well as the mixed doubles.

As for the women shuttlers, BAM has replaced Anita Raj with Lydia Cheah as her coach Rashid Sidek felt his charge has been producing impressive results.

National chief coach Yap Kim Hock said the inclusion of both players are subject to approval from Badminton World Federation (BWF).

"Rexy wants Fairuz to focus on the three tournaments as the pair must do well to get good seeding in the World Championships and this will also provide Wee Kiong with quality exposure," said Kim Hock.

"Furthermore, Wee Kiong-Khe Wei are being groomed for the Beijing Olympics next year and they can also gain ranking points by competing in the Sudirman Cup.

"Lydia has the Asian Junior Championships in July to focus on while Anita has been playing well of late.

"If BWF does not entertain our requests, we will send a nine-member squad instead of 10 where Lydia will be retained."

Lee Chong Wei and Wong Choong Hann will be the two men’s singles players while Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong will be the sole men’s doubles pair in the squad.

Wong Mew Choo will be the first choice women singles player and she will be joined by doubles pair Wong Pei Tty-Chin Eei Hui.

If Wee Kiong’s inclusion is not approved by BWF, Kien Keat-Pei Tty are expected to play in the mixed doubles while Choong Hann will be the alternative as he has played in the mixed doubles in the 2005 Sudirman Cup.

The squad — Men: Lee Chong Wei, Wong Choong Hann, Koo Kien Keat, Tan Boon Heong, Tan Wee Kiong*.

Women: Wong Mew Choo, Anita Raj*, Wong Pei Tty, Chin Eei Hui, Woon Khe Wei.

hcpoirot
05-26-2007, 10:36 AM
What is BAM doing by only sending 10 people? How if one of the MD or WD got injury or they lost badly in group matches?

If so, they cannot change to other pairs. If this decision to save expenses? Malaysia had the chances to go to final. But only with 10 people I doubt it even if all players are in good health.

hcpoirot
05-26-2007, 10:37 AM
i think women single & women double no need any back up..
so we should slot choong tan fook/lee wan wah to the last 2 namelist..
if Lee Chong Wei didn't play the MS event, then MAS 100% will lost 1 point..
so why we need Choon Hann which i think is a littlebit useless...
if we let Lee/Choong in..
then maybe if MAS wan to play some strategy..
they can go for it like this...
MS- Lee Chong Wei
MD- Lee Wan Wah/Choong Tan Fook
WS- Wong Mew Choo
WD- Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui
XD - Koo Kien Keat/Wong Pei Tty
i think maybe this can give some differences to MAS team..

Agree with you. Maybe BAM target this time is only reach SF with 10 players.

huangkwokhau
05-26-2007, 10:50 AM
BAM should add at least another MD so they can try KKK/WPT in XD ...which is pretty weak..10 is a bit risky....I hope Malaysia can add 2 or 4 players...you need them to be healty and fresh...

BinBin007911
05-26-2007, 04:32 PM
but i don think so 1 team can send more then 10 players, if i not wrong, 1 team only can send 10 players exclude coach etc. 5 male players and 5 female players.

huangkwokhau
05-26-2007, 05:55 PM
but i don think so 1 team can send more then 10 players, if i not wrong, 1 team only can send 10 players exclude coach etc. 5 male players and 5 female players.

I do not think so....Indonesia will send 20 players...(8 females and 12 males)

BinBin007911
05-27-2007, 02:50 PM
I do not think so....Indonesia will send 20 players...(8 females and 12 males)
where r u get the information??

huangkwokhau
05-27-2007, 02:56 PM
where r u get the information??
It is reported in various newspaper (kompas, suarapembaruan, etc) as well as www.bulutangkis.com..right (http://www.bulutangkis.com..right) now INA registered 22 players but they will cut to 20 players by June 2..( announcement)

China will send 18 players...check the other thread..

tjl_vanguard
05-27-2007, 10:57 PM
wee kiong and khee wei is definitely there only for exposure.. i dont think it matters cuz its kinda impossible to win the cup.. but not in the future.. :D

yea i also do not understand why is anita in?? maybe its because lydia and julia isnt performing so well.. :(

kenny7_2006
05-28-2007, 01:25 AM
i think d final playing team will consist of only 10 players, in any combinations though... and Lydia Cheah will replace Anita Raj right, as reported?

Misty100
05-28-2007, 09:38 AM
i think d final playing team will consist of only 10 players, in any combinations though... and Lydia Cheah will replace Anita Raj right, as reported?

It's the other way round... Anita Raj will replace Lydia Cheah, cos' Anita has been playing better lately and Lydia's form took a dip after moving over under Rashid's charge. Maybe she needs time to re-adjust and with the changes.

hcpoirot
05-28-2007, 11:56 AM
I am still feel weird about Bam decision. What if one of the MD or WD got injured. Who will they replaced with?

tjl_vanguard
05-29-2007, 12:22 AM
BAM should at least include CTF/LWW in if there is no max 10 slots rule...

champion8
05-29-2007, 12:34 AM
it would have been better if BAM send more players to Scotland than depending on just 10 players like Indonesia and China.

badMania
05-29-2007, 01:52 AM
Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei are indeed a pair to watch for the future. 2008 Olympics are probably too early for them...2012 would be more realistic.

abedeng
05-29-2007, 02:49 AM
Hey, it's impossible to have 20 in a Sudirman Cup team, as in the Thomas and Uber Cups. 10, I think is the max number of team members allowed.

tjl_vanguard
05-29-2007, 03:27 AM
Hey, it's impossible to have 20 in a Sudirman Cup team, as in the Thomas and Uber Cups. 10, I think is the max number of team members allowed.
thats wad i tot as well.. but there were reports on bulutangkis saying that INA is bringing 20 over... ???? confused :confused::confused::confused::confused:

CLELY
05-29-2007, 03:29 AM
Extremely confidence and too risky with just 10 squad members. But, MAS certainly has clear mission in Glasgow, last four target is enough despite final ticket still open wide for them. Probably, KL's World-meet and Thomas Cup are more2 important agenda for MAS compare than Sudirman Cup?!

huangkwokhau
05-29-2007, 09:17 AM
thats wad i tot as well.. but there were reports on bulutangkis saying that INA is bringing 20 over... ???? confused :confused::confused::confused::confused:

It will be 20 players for sure.....

hcpoirot
05-29-2007, 01:02 PM
Maybe BAM wanted to save expense money as much as possible? :D

tjl_vanguard
05-29-2007, 08:13 PM
Maybe BAM wanted to save expense money as much as possible? :D
tat is so.......GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR :mad::mad::mad::mad:

koo_fan
05-29-2007, 09:57 PM
so far, its not yet finalized.. but i hope it will be as follows....

MS: LEE Chong Wei
MD: KOO Kien Keat/TAN Boon Heong
WS: WONG Mew Choo
WD: WONG Pei Tty/CHIN Eei Hui
XD: MOHD. Fairuzizuan Tazari/WONG Pei Tty

wad do u ppl think?? :D :D :D :D :D
are u bam officer??u always know everything.by the way i hope these selection is honest selection.I believe in all malaysian players.also with ur info.O.k dude

champion8
05-30-2007, 12:48 AM
congratulation to Anita Kaur and Tan Wee Kiong on their inclusion in the Sudirman cup. I am sure they will contribute positively to the team and I feel their inclusion is justified.

tjl_vanguard
05-30-2007, 01:03 AM
are u bam officer??u always know everything.by the way i hope these selection is honest selection.I believe in all malaysian players.also with ur info.O.k dude
me?? BAM officer?? i wish... so i can get inside information hahaha.. but sorry im not.. well, its kinda obvious tat the lineup will be that way.. i got one wrong btw.. fairuz is not going.. took over my khe wei's regular partner, wee kiong... :D

koo_fan
05-30-2007, 02:57 AM
i really really hope fairuz-zakry will be included.There are something about them.i dont know what but i know they are special

jasonmarc
05-30-2007, 05:04 AM
I think its way to risky to send only one pair MD and still expect KKK to play in XD and at the same time MAS also sending one WD and also expect WPT to pair KKK in XD....its totally unrealistic and dangerous to rely to much on these two players...poor thing....MAS have a lot of good MD...i dont see any problems sending one more pair MD..??????? Just look at Indon dan CHN they send about 19 - 20 players but MAS only 9 - 10 players...?

jasonmarc
05-30-2007, 05:08 AM
Maybe BAM wanted to save expense money as much as possible? :D

Yes maybe, after they over spent in last year WC in Madrid? :D:D:D

rwchen
05-30-2007, 05:35 AM
I have the feeling that Malaysia does not take Surdirman Cup that seriously. They place more importance to the upcoming World Championships and Olympics qualification. The rationale for including Tan Wee Kiong and Woon Khe Wei is to make sure that they will earn points and qualify for Olympics while the omision of Fairuz is to let him concentrate in men double so that Fairuz/Zakri will get a seeding at the World Championship. I think the move to just bring a 10 persons team is a bit risky (If there is no limit to the number of players), there is not much room to plan the strategy.

huangkwokhau
05-30-2007, 06:42 AM
I think MAS should send at least another MD

X Ball
05-30-2007, 07:39 AM
I think MAS should send at least another MD


Looking at the news in the papers, Malaysia is not going to be too concerned how they fare beyond the semis. I think Sudirman is not a top priority compared to the World Championships or the Olympics.

koo_fan
05-30-2007, 09:05 AM
Yes maybe, after they over spent in last year WC in Madrid? :D:D:D
madrid is a lesson for malaysia.i think being smashed by malaysian press and get foreign insinuation will not easily be forgetted by Bam.But at least they should send two doubles lah.Just depend on kkk-tbh???think it again.plez BAM.of course i believe in kkk-tbh but we need back-up right?

huangkwokhau
05-30-2007, 04:06 PM
Looking at the news in the papers, Malaysia is not going to be too concerned how they fare beyond the semis. I think Sudirman is not a top priority compared to the World Championships or the Olympics.

Thats sad even China finally sends 16 players...

tjl_vanguard
05-30-2007, 09:03 PM
seems like MAS doesn reli bother so much bout sudirman cup.. just tat they set a semi final appearance target just not to get their A** kicked again...

huangkwokhau
05-31-2007, 12:52 AM
Anita lost again to Korean player.....honestly I have not seen she had played well yet...may be Julia wong should be considered to be included in MAS team

tjl_vanguard
05-31-2007, 01:17 AM
i reli dun understand why is she included???? lydia and julia is DEFINITELY better!!!!

kenny7_2006
05-31-2007, 02:49 AM
actually, is there any rule that limits the number of players per country to a certain limit, so and so?

MAS are taking a big (but calculated) gamble by inly bringing 10 players, but i think barring injuries, they should do the job just fine... heck they have LCW, WCH, KKK, TBH, WMC...

vellin
05-31-2007, 11:41 AM
Bam only send 10 players?? I think it's too risky. China will send 16 players while Ina will send 20. If Bam only send 10 players, it's hard for malay to be in the final.:crying:
I really hope that LWW/CTF will be included. Of course I believe KKK/TBH will perform well. But how about if one of them suddenly got injured???
Hope that it won't happen. But I still think they will feel tired if Bam only send them for MD.

Chu Liuxiang
06-02-2007, 05:35 AM
Bam only send 10 players?? I think it's too risky. China will send 16 players while Ina will send 20. If Bam only send 10 players, it's hard for malay to be in the final.:crying:
I really hope that LWW/CTF will be included. Of course I believe KKK/TBH will perform well. But how about if one of them suddenly got injured???
Hope that it won't happen. But I still think they will feel tired if Bam only send them for MD.

If any of KKK/TBH got injured, then Wong CH will play MD. WCH played in MS, MD, XD in Commonwealth Games team events.

champion8
06-02-2007, 07:16 AM
i think at this point there is no purpose to discuss why Malaysia only send 10. It has been decided.

Lets hope this strategy works well for us at least to the Semi Fnal target.

teabag
06-02-2007, 06:45 PM
I believe the decision on Anita was decided after she thrashed Julia at Pahang's finals just a couple of weeks ago. Anita is very talented by the way, she just hasn't emerge on the international scene as much as Julia has, I think its because Anita took a break after juniors before moving up to seniors, she was malaysia top junior player back then.

As for Lydia, Lydia has world juniors in July, so BAM wants her to focus on that as been reported :)

There is no limit on how many players a country can bring with them to Sudirman Cup, but only 10 names can be submitted before each game. Though China and Indonesia are probably the only 2 countries bringing more than 10 players.

Inside info has revealed that Malaysia's target is just a top 4 spot at this year's SC, which is why it doesn't matter who they send for XD, cos they know it is highly unlikely any msia XD combi can take on China, England or Thailand's XD which are all in the world's top 5! So the inclusion of the junior XD pair is simply to help them earn points for Olympics 08 and for exposure of course.

BAM probably saw no point in bringing another pair of men's doubles because if either kkk or tbh gets injured, wch will play the MD; and BAM must have worked out during training that either wch-kkk or wch-tbh is good enough to take out Thailand and England's MD which is enough for them to reach their top 4 target.

Cheung
06-02-2007, 06:55 PM
Looking at the news in the papers, Malaysia is not going to be too concerned how they fare beyond the semis. I think Sudirman is not a top priority compared to the World Championships or the Olympics.If I were the team manager, I would simply look at my squad to assess it strengths.

Do I have chance to win with the team at full strength?

If not, what is the best tactic after that? Get points for the WC/Olympics or give experience to some junior players or a mixture of both?

After that, cost issues come into play. What is the value of sending more players who will not get a chance to play or have chance of injury? Sudirman cup played in Scotland may not have the same pressure cooker effect of Asian tournaments so the learning experience of just being on the team bench is probably not as great.

Sudirman cup is traditionally not a strong tournament for M'sia until more women and XD can consistently enter the s/finals of SS tournaments.

hcpoirot
06-03-2007, 01:41 PM
I have the feeling that Malaysia does not take Surdirman Cup that seriously. They place more importance to the upcoming World Championships and Olympics qualification. The rationale for including Tan Wee Kiong and Woon Khe Wei is to make sure that they will earn points and qualify for Olympics while the omision of Fairuz is to let him concentrate in men double so that Fairuz/Zakri will get a seeding at the World Championship. I think the move to just bring a 10 persons team is a bit risky (If there is no limit to the number of players), there is not much room to plan the strategy.

Maybe, but playing in Sudirman Cup also give you Olympic points. So if your team can move to final, your team will play 5 matches, and the team can play as many players as possible to gain points.

Not to mention usually points for team events quite high. A win in SF or final will give you points equal to Super series SF or final points.

Thats why China bring all their aces players to Sudirman Cup.

Not to mention that Malaysia had a very big chance to enter final if they had full team and not 10 players like now with a very inexperienced MX pair.

hcpoirot
06-03-2007, 01:46 PM
Sudirman cup is traditionally not a strong tournament for M'sia until more women and XD can consistently enter the s/finals of SS tournaments.

I disagree here. Others team in the group 1 also had problem with their WS and WD except for China and Hong Kong (wang Chen) and Korea WD.

So in that case, Malaysia girls still had a chance when they play other team girls. That also the same for any other team girls. They all had 50:50 chance.

Deana Deyla
06-03-2007, 03:06 PM
helo..im newbie here..anyway,do u think malaysian can win or at least go for final?i hope so..but china seem to have more chance to win..

Cheung
06-03-2007, 06:14 PM
I disagree here. Others team in the group 1 also had problem with their WS and WD except for China and Hong Kong (wang Chen) and Korea WD.
.Disagree? Then why only a few years ago was M'sia in a lower group? Men too weak?

teabag
06-03-2007, 06:28 PM
Disagree? Then why only a few years ago was M'sia in a lower group? Men too weak?

I think HCpoirot is referring to the current batch of women players in the team, like say WMC who should be able to take on all other women's singles in Group 1 except China and there are also younger players slowly rising up. But thats only a recent trend, like u said, traditionally Malaysia never had strong representatives in the women's team. So HCpoirot probably saw in the current team that Malaysia will have a good chance with the WS at least.

WD may be more of a concern cos Chin/Wong has been struggling with injuries and its uncertain how long more they will continue playing professionally while the younger players have the tendency to quit the team because of injuries too like Sock Ai did recently.

hcpoirot
06-04-2007, 01:10 PM
I think HCpoirot is referring to the current batch of women players in the team, like say WMC who should be able to take on all other women's singles in Group 1 except China and there are also younger players slowly rising up. But thats only a recent trend, like u said, traditionally Malaysia never had strong representatives in the women's team. So HCpoirot probably saw in the current team that Malaysia will have a good chance with the WS at least.



That what I mean.

These days in WS, outside of China and ex China girls, other gilrs got the same chance to win a match.

cooler
06-06-2007, 01:43 PM
Wednesday June 6, 2007


Badminton: Big task for top pair Koo-Tan

By LIM TEIK HUAT

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia may not stand a chance to win the Sudirman Cup (world mixed team championships) but doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky wants to see winning performances from Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong are expected to feature in all the vital men's doubles matches in Malaysia's campaign in Division One of the championships beginning in Glasgow next Monday and Rexy is looking at an unbeaten record from the world number two.


Heavy load: Kien Keat and Boon Heong are in better shape now.
Malaysia will be aiming to feature in the semi-finals for the first time and they have Thailand, England and defending champions China for company in Group A. In Group B are South Korea, Indonesia, Denmark and Hong Kong.

Among the possible match-ups for Kien Keat-Boon Heong in the group ties are world number one Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng of China, World Championships runners-up Anthony Clark-Robert Blair of England and Sudket Prapakamol-Phattapol Ngernsrisuk of Thailand.

The other top doubles pairs in the other group are Indonesians Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan, Danes Martin Lundgaard Hansen-Jens Eriksen and South Koreans Lee Yong-dae-Jung Jae-sung.

There is also the possibilities for South Korea and Indonesia to field scratch combinations because they have good options in their line-ups. South Korea and Indonesia have 20-member teams while Malaysia have named only 10.

Rexy viewed playing in the Sudirman Cup as another opportunity for Kien Keat-Boon Heong to stamp their dominance in world badminton again.

“I hope they can win all their matches because the country will be counting on them to win a point in every tie,” he said.

“It will be a good opportunity for them to beat the Chinese pair if they meet again. I do not think that Malaysia can beat China in a Sudirman Cup tie. But it's going to be an incentive if Koo-Tan can beat the top Chinese pair and avenge the defeat in the Indonesian Open last month.

“In the Indonesian Open, the Chinese pair were able to keep up with their pace in the second game. Koo-Tan lost because they did not train up to the mark but they have got better since then.”

Cai Yun-Haifeng beat the Malaysians for the first time in the semi-finals of the Indonesian Open. Prior to that, Kien Keat-Boon Heong had beaten them en route to winning the All-England and Swiss Open titles in March.

The Chinese beat three Malaysian pairs – Lee Wan Wah-Choong Tan Fook, Kien Keat-Boon Heong and Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Latif – en route to winning their second consecutive Super Series title in Jakarta.

They are seen as the biggest threat to Malaysia's hopes in the world championships in Bukit Jalil in August.

Kien Keat, who will be making his third straight Sudirman Cup appearance, hoped to put up a good show with his partner.

“Unlike previously, I will not be playing in the mixed doubles. It's better because I can concentrate solely on giving my best in the men's doubles match,” he said.

tjl_vanguard
06-07-2007, 08:30 PM
i think koo-tan stands for a good chance beating all the pairs there... if koo is up to him play.. :D

ctjcad
06-13-2007, 12:32 AM
(courtesy of sports.qq.com)..here are some pics of M'sian players-enjoy!;)

Wong Mew Choo
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-WMC.jpg

Lee Chong Wei
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-LCW6.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-LCW5.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-LCW4.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-LCW2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-LCW3.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-LCW.jpg

Koo Kien Keat
http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-KKK.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-KKKTBH2.jpg

http://i147.photobucket.com/albums/r310/ctjcad/SC-KKK-TBH.jpg

cute_tbh
06-13-2007, 12:59 AM
hope they can beat cai yun and fu haifeng, again...