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madbad
05-22-2007, 07:23 PM
Let's start the ball rolling with my early predictions (assuming all matches are played):

Group 1

SF1: CHN over INA 4-1. All conquering China will roll on convincingly, with possibly Taufik managing to steal a point for INA. The Chinese women and XD will ensure there is no upset.
SF2: MAS over KOR 4-1. Surprisingly, KOR wins their group but don't match up well with MAS. I can see the Koreans taking the XD. Anything else will be a bonus. One thing that could upset the balance is the Malaysians' mental fragility when the pressure is on.
FINAL: CHN over MAS 4-1. Everything points to a CHN victory. MAS may gain a point from the MD, and unless LCW and WMC play out of their skins, they won't gain another point. There again, MAS will be under no pressure, but that's a looooooong shot. CHN champions.
DEMOTED to group 2: Hong Kong

Group 2

SF1: SIN over POL 3-2. The surprise package of the group, Poland, push Singapore to the limit but succumb due to their lack of depth.
SF2: JAP over TPE 4-1. The Japanese men will be the difference, securing enough points to put the team comfortably through.
FINAL: JAP over SIN 3-2. A close fight is on the cards but JAP should have enough to hold off SIN. Right now, SIN has the quantity but not quite the quality. JAP to take the MD, WS and WD. JAP promoted to group 1.
DEMOTED to group 3: Sweden

Group 3

SF1: NZ over FRA 3-2. After winning a very weak group, France are exposed by the gritty Kiwis. Led by John Moody, the New Zealanders will themselves to this famous victory. There is only so much PHY can do for her adopted country.
SF2: IND over CAN 5-0. Again, Canada qualify from a pathetically weak group but come up empty against talented India. Nothing much else to say.
FINAL: IND over NZ 4-1. It'll become quite clear who the best team in this group is. I'm giving NZ one win for sheer guts and effort. IND promoted to group 2.
DEMOTED to group 4: Finland

X Ball
05-23-2007, 01:17 AM
Let's start the ball rolling with my early predictions (assuming all matches are played):

Group 1

SF1: CHN over INA 4-1. All conquering China will roll on convincingly, with possibly Taufik managing to steal a point for INA. The Chinese women and XD will ensure there is no upset.
SF2: MAS over KOR 4-1. Surprisingly, KOR wins their group but don't match up well with MAS. I can see the Koreans taking the XD. Anything else will be a bonus. One thing that could upset the balance is the Malaysians' mental fragility when the pressure is on.
FINAL: CHN over MAS 4-1. Everything points to a CHN victory. MAS may gain a point from the MD, and unless LCW and WMC play out of their skins, they won't gain another point. There again, MAS will be under no pressure, but that's a looooooong shot. CHN champions.
DEMOTED to group 2: Hong Kong

Group 2

SF1: SIN over POL 3-2. The surprise package of the group, Poland, push Singapore to the limit but succumb due to their lack of depth.
SF2: JAP over TPE 4-1. The Japanese men will be the difference, securing enough points to put the team comfortably through.
FINAL: JAP over SIN 3-2. A close fight is on the cards but JAP should have enough to hold off SIN. Right now, SIN has the quantity but not quite the quality. JAP to take the MD, WS and WD. JAP promoted to group 1.
DEMOTED to group 3: Sweden

Group 3

SF1: NZ over FRA 3-2. After winning a very weak group, France are exposed by the gritty Kiwis. Led by John Moody, the New Zealanders will themselves to this famous victory. There is only so much PHY can do for her adopted country.
SF2: IND over CAN 5-0. Again, Canada qualify from a pathetically weak group but come up empty against talented India. Nothing much else to say.
FINAL: IND over NZ 4-1. It'll become quite clear who the best team in this group is. I'm giving NZ one win for sheer guts and effort. IND promoted to group 2.
DEMOTED to group 4: Finland

I would have to disagree on the CHINA vs Malaysia Final prediction. I think it will be 3-2, either way. I predict LCW and KKK-TBH winning, and probably WMC to surprise, and that is why the 3-2. It will be a narrow win for either. Not 4-1 !

madbad
05-23-2007, 01:25 AM
I would have to disagree on the CHINA vs Malaysia Final prediction. I think it will be 3-2, either way. I predict LCW and KKK-TBH winning, and probably WMC to surprise, and that is why the 3-2. It will be a narrow win for either. Not 4-1 !

That's why I said if LCW and WMC played the games of their lives, that was a possibility. There is no doubt that could happen, as much as FHF/CY beating KKK/TBH. However my head says the odds are with China winning 4-1. Besides, I think that MAS making the final itself is a tremendous achievement for a team that got promoted the last time.

Linus
05-23-2007, 02:48 AM
Whilst I agree China will top Group 1A, I donot think the runner-up spot is stright forward. I think England may give Malaysia a good run for the money. You see MAL vs ENG, MAL is only sure of the MS and MD, whilst ENG can bank on the XD. The WS and WD are not conclusively in favour of MAL especially ENG has "half" homeground advantage.

Group 1B is more stright forward with Indonesia and Korea going thru. INA will bank on MS, MD and XD, whilst Korea will depend on theirs MD, WD and XD to win them matches.

But whatever happen at Group stages, I think we all agree that China is just too strong all-round in the Sudirman Cup team format to win them the trophy. The only reservation is whether China will field its strongest line up across all disciplines, at this moment, no evidence suggests otherwise.

tommy_bun
05-23-2007, 10:25 AM
Chi-Mas
MS
China will win over malaysia
WS
China wins
MD
50-50
WD
China
XD
China
So the winner must be China for sure

Mas-Eng
MS-- belong to mas
WS-- 50-50
MD-- Mas
WD-- 50-50
XD-- Eng

madbad
05-23-2007, 11:08 AM
The only reservation is whether China will field its strongest line up across all disciplines, at this moment, no evidence suggests otherwise.

Against the stronger nations (INA, DEN, KOR, MAS), they'll definitely need their strongest MS (LD), MD (FHF/CY) and WS (XXF, ZN) players as the level below them are all beatable (and have been beaten consistently). For WD and XD, they'll have few problems. I'd be more than happy to see someone push them to the limit and, dare I say, beat them.

huangkwokhau
05-23-2007, 11:17 AM
I think China will be in final, either INA or Korea will be the opponents...I do not see MAS vs China yet..as Mas is only strong or can secure MD, the rests are not at all..especially XD,WD and MS

hcpoirot
05-23-2007, 01:03 PM
Somehow I don't think MD will even be played in Final. China will win 3-0 in final if they meet Malaysia.

XD 1 -0

MS 1- 0

then WS 1-0

There will be no MD.

Meanwhile Indonesia had a chance to play MD if Taufik can win against LD.

kwun
05-23-2007, 01:11 PM
if i understand correctly, to predict CHN vs. INA semi finals means that INA will have to lose to KOR in the group matches. unless INA give away the matches, it maybe difficult for KOR to win.

huangkwokhau
05-23-2007, 01:21 PM
if i understand correctly, to predict CHN vs. INA semi finals means that INA will have to lose to KOR in the group matches. unless INA give away the matches, it maybe difficult for KOR to win.

If this goes well...

INA and Korea tops the group vs China and Mas on other side..so China vs Korea and Mas vs INA then I have to say china vs INA in final.

or China vs INA and Mas vs Korea...then China vs Korea in final...

I do see that denmark has a chance to get more points against Korea then INA...anyway...will be interesting to see next month...anyway..it is all predictions after all....:D:D

madbad
05-23-2007, 01:22 PM
if i understand correctly, to predict CHN vs. INA semi finals means that INA will have to lose to KOR in the group matches. unless INA give away the matches, it maybe difficult for KOR to win.

That's correct. I think KOR can beat INA in MD, WS and either edge WD or XD. KOR to win their group and face MAS (2nd in their group) in the SF.

kwun
05-23-2007, 01:37 PM
i think the results will be the follow for Group 1A and Group 1B:

Group 1A

1. China - China always play full out on all group matches. Malaysia will be the only team capable of taking any points from them.
2. Malaysia - Malaysia will go into SF
3. Thailand
4. England

China vs. Thailand 5-0
China vs. England 5-0
China vs. Malaysia 4-1 - losing a point in MD

Malaysia vs. Thailand 4-1 - losing a point in XD
Malaysia vs. England 4-1 - losing a point in XD

Thailand vs. England - ???

Group 1B

1. Indonesia - strong in MS/MD/XD
2. Denmark - don't underestimate Denmark as they have strong MS / MD / XD and decent WS / WD
3. Korea
4. Hong Kong - bad draw but they should get points in WS.

Denmark vs. Indonesia - 2-3 WS/MD - MS/WD/XD
Denmark vs. Korea - 3-2 - MS/MD/XD - WS/WD
Denmark vs. Hong Kong - 4-1

Indonesia vs. Korea - 3-2 MS/MD/XD - WS/WD
Indonesia vs. Hong Kong - 4-1

Korea vs. Hong Kong - 4-1

i predict a really close fight between Denmark, Indonesia and Korea. as you can see, i think all matches between them will end up 3-2.

ctjcad
05-23-2007, 02:54 PM
..and looking forward to the badminton fantasy game again, which they had last yr for a couple of the tourneys:p...Now, where is that game??..Will they have another one??..:confused::rolleyes::D:cool:

...Overall, i'm sure most if not all of us believe CHN will carry the Sudirman Cup home again..And all of the above posts, predictions, projections are very interesting...In the end, MAS, INA, KOR, DEN, imo, will battle it out to play in the Semis and have the right to meet CHN, in the Final..:cool:

Dreamzz
05-23-2007, 03:00 PM
i can see the danes beating the koreans in MS and MD, but not the rest. so i think INA will top the group, facing MAS in the semis and CHN will face DEN in the other semi.

CHN vs DEN, easy win for the chinese.
MAS vs INA, well well well, we're in for a good match here ...

Linus
05-23-2007, 09:53 PM
Somehow I don't think MD will even be played in Final. China will win 3-0 in final if they meet Malaysia.

XD 1 -0

MS 1- 0

then WS 1-0

There will be no MD.

Meanwhile Indonesia had a chance to play MD if Taufik can win against LD.

The Surdirman Tournament rule does not state that the order of play has to be in that way, i.e. XD, MS, WS, MD and WD. The order of play can be changed as I understand the rule, especially if a team has player who plays in more than 1 discipline.

The relevant rule as follows:

14. ORDER OF PLAY
14.1 When nominating his/her team, the Team Manager shall recommend to the Referee a suggested order of play and, at that time, the Referee shall decide and announce the order of play.

madbad
05-23-2007, 10:10 PM
The Surdirman Tournament rule does not state that the order of play has to be in that way, i.e. XD, MS, WS, MD and WD. The order of play can be changed as I understand the rule, especially if a team has player who plays in more than 1 discipline.

The relevant rule as follows:

Yup, that's true. That's why I thought I'd make my predictions based on all games played.

pramilainc
05-24-2007, 01:34 AM
I doubt MAS-KOR will end up 4-1. I know LHI is no more, but PSH have improved by leaps and bounds and will be an even game against (still off colour) LCW. Don't count out KOR MD, they have beaten KKK/TBH before, and XD and WD is a class above MAS. Chances are we'll see 3-2 victory to KOR.

abedeng
05-24-2007, 07:05 AM
I doubt KOR will make it to semis, INA hold MS, MD and XD advantage, whereas KOR is only superior in WS. WD is about even (Vita/Greysia are pretty tough).

Against DEN, KOR has a better chance, but still has advantage in WD only. XD and WS is about even (now that Tine Rasmussen is back). MS is DEN for sure, MD is quite close but DEN has a bit of advantage with so many capable pairs, KOR only has Jung/Lee.

abedeng
05-24-2007, 07:09 AM
As for the other group, CHN tops the group for sure.

The 2nd slot is a face off between MAS, ENG and THA, in that order. Now that ENG badminton has better support ever since they produced world champs, a MAS victory is not guaranteed. MAS cannot afford to throw away any matches, even the XD although chances of success are less than the other disciplines.

I remember previous mixed team events, where it was not necessarily the women that contributed to MAS loss. There was a time when the MD pair failed after the women contributed a point, resulting in MAS going down to ENG 2-3.

tommy_bun
05-24-2007, 10:00 AM
Korea-Ina.

MS--Ina will win
WS--Korea will win as they have Hwang HY/Seo YH
MD--Maybe Lee/Jung will beat Kido/Hendra as they did in Korea SS
WD--I dont see upset here.Lee/Lee will beat polii/Vita
XD--Maybe Ina's XD has advantage.
actually it's quite hard to predict who will win.But I guess Korea will take it 3-2.

huangkwokhau
05-24-2007, 10:02 AM
IMO..Korea vs INA can be 2-3 or 3-2...I think INA has edge since WS INA is improving as long as Maria is playing not firdasari and INA WD can be tough also...it can be either way...no matter who wins...it will be in 3-2

CLELY
05-25-2007, 02:35 AM
Level 1A : CHN (winner) & MAS (runner-up)
Level 1B : INA (winner) & KOR/DEN (runner-up)

INA will push hard effort to win group 1B, avoid CHN in semi. INA has 2 advantage points from MS and XD, still open chance from MD and WD to complete it. Seems KOR is the stiffest test for INA in group preliminary because KOR will become extraordinary power in team competition, INA must be underscored their fighting-spirit.

Assumption of order-to-play : XD-MS-WS-MD-WD

Semifinal 1 : CHN vs KOR/DEN, clear result -- 3-0 for CHN

Semifinal 2 : INA vs MAS, love this match!
XD -- INA vs MAS : 1-0
MS -- INA vs MAS : 2-0
WS -- INA vs MAS : 2-1
MD -- INA vs MAS : 2-2
WD -- INA vs MAS : the decider
Endscore 3-2 for INA or MAS. On paper both teams have balance squad, need high determination and mental strength to enter last round.

Dream Finale : CHN meets INA at neutral place, hmm maybe INA needs Fortune Goddess here to bring back Sudirman to its homeland, positively CHN is only need 1 point from XD/MS/MD. If CHN win XD as opening match, 100% the Sudirman will stay 2 years again in Beijing. MS and MD are best opportunities for INA to drag CHN until last match decider (WD) will be played.

Other Final Scenario : CHN against MAS, I guess CHN has an easier way to face MAS than INA in final. It's possible CHN will book 3-0 directly win over MAS through XD,MS and WS unless LCW shows boombastic spirit to frustrate LD.

tjl_vanguard
05-25-2007, 03:05 AM
INA-MAS tie

Taufik Hidayat vs Lee Chong Wei (50-50)
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (30-70)
WS vs Wong Mew Choo (40-60)
WD vs WOng Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (60-40)
Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (90-10)

sorry i dunno what is the line-up for WD and WS for INA... :D

tjl_vanguard
05-25-2007, 03:11 AM
CHN-MAS tie

Lin Dan vs Lee Chong Wei (60-40)
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (50-50)
WD vs Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (MAS guarantee KO!!!)
Zhang Ning or Xie Xingfang vs Wong Mew Choo (65-35)
Gao Ling/Zheng Bo vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (SURE KO ALSO!!!)

tjl_vanguard
05-25-2007, 03:14 AM
MAS - INA tie (2-2) last point depends on Taufik and Lee Chong Wei

MAS - CHN tie (4-1) only Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong have a realistic chance to win... Lee Chong Wei has a chance as well but its hard to say.. he has to be on his very very top form... :D

emperor
05-31-2007, 08:47 PM
I do not agree to the statement that FHF/CY will loss to any of the Malaysian pair in the surdirman cup. They only having 1 limitation is FHF net play, if he can improve in his net skills, I think they afraid nobody.

My personal opinion, if China were to meet the Malaysian team, China might win all.

Joyous
05-31-2007, 10:30 PM
CHN-MAS tie
WD vs Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (MAS guarantee KO!!!)
Gao Ling/Zheng Bo vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (SURE KO ALSO!!!)

I can imagine your expression, so funny. Unless the Chinese pairs are having an awlful day, have to agree that M'sians have a remote chance. But I hope it's not like the TC tape that I watched last week. Y Yang played Misbun & I decided to brush my teeth at the onset of the game. By the time I came back, Y Yang won 15-2!!!

X Ball
06-01-2007, 12:13 AM
CHN-MAS tie
WD vs Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (MAS guarantee KO!!!)
Gao Ling/Zheng Bo vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (SURE KO ALSO!!!)

I can imagine your expression, so funny. Unless the Chinese pairs are having an awlful day, have to agree that M'sians have a remote chance. But I hope it's not like the TC tape that I watched last week. Y Yang played Misbun & I decided to brush my teeth at the onset of the game. By the time I came back, Y Yang won 15-2!!!

U must have smelly teeth to take that long !:D;)

taufik-ist
06-01-2007, 05:28 AM
malaysia... don't understimate thailand..

my prediction:
ms: Boonsak vs Lcw = 50:50
xd: thai v mas = 60:40
ws: thai vs mas =40:60
wd: thai vs mas = 47:53
md: thai vs mas = 35:65

Chu Liuxiang
06-02-2007, 02:10 AM
malaysia... don't understimate thailand..

my prediction:
ms: Boonsak vs Lcw = 50:50
xd: thai v mas = 60:40
ws: thai vs mas =40:60
wd: thai vs mas = 47:53
md: thai vs mas = 35:65

I think from the past records, Boonsak vs LCW is about 0:8 or something, so, it is still favor to LCW to play Boonsak and I think LCW stand a higher chance than Boonsak in this match.

Chu Liuxiang
06-02-2007, 02:14 AM
INA-MAS tie

Taufik Hidayat vs Lee Chong Wei (50-50)
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (30-70)
WS vs Wong Mew Choo (40-60)
WD vs WOng Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (60-40)
Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (90-10)

sorry i dunno what is the line-up for WD and WS for INA... :D

For critical match such as semifinal or final game, I think Malaysia may not field Tan Wee Kiong/ Woon Khe Wei as their XD. Malaysia XD could be 2006 World Championship semifinalist KKK/WPT against the Indonesian. Or at least, for a safer bet, Malaysia may field Wong CH/ WPT ( It was always this pair in the past Sudirman Cup and Commonwealth Games Team events).

hcpoirot
06-02-2007, 03:06 PM
I had to say, if Malaysia wanted to be runner up, they cannot play TWK/WKH against England or Thai MX.

Cause if they play TWK/WKH against Nathan/Gail or Thai mix, Malaysia surely will give one point to their opponents.

But If they play KKK/WPT or WCH/WPT to gain points, that mean KKK and WPT will play twice every day with only 10 players in their teams.

So if Mas teams can reach final, will KKK and WPT still had enough gas left to play China?

Meanwhile China can rotate all their players all they wanted specially in WS and WD.

Deana Deyla
06-03-2007, 03:19 PM
CHN-MAS tie

Lin Dan vs Lee Chong Wei (60-40)
Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (50-50)
WD vs Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (MAS guarantee KO!!!)
Zhang Ning or Xie Xingfang vs Wong Mew Choo (65-35)
Gao Ling/Zheng Bo vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (SURE KO ALSO!!!)

I agree with u...:):)

Footwork
06-04-2007, 10:43 AM
Is Nathan definitely playing? :confused:There was a preparation tourny yesterday and he didn't play in it because of an injury. Not sure if losing him would affect England's results because they have Clark and Kellogg as well....we'll have to wait and see!

kidosetiawan
06-04-2007, 11:33 AM
Well from dat group is MAS n CHN

the other group be INA and DEN

jasonmarc
06-05-2007, 03:49 AM
My prediction for MAS is, MAS-Eng -- 3 - 2 ( Eng has home ground advantages) MAS - Thai -- 3 - 2 ( XD and probably MS will lost) as for MAS -- CHN ( 1-4 ) ( MAS to win in MD ) if MAS play in SF,...Vs INA(most probably) 3 -- 2 (either way) ........if MAS can enter SF...considered great achivement already...for the first timer to play in group level 1...dont play -play.........

Joyous
06-05-2007, 04:23 AM
U must have smelly teeth to take that long !:D;)

Suggest you watch the match, look at the score and the clock & then you will know the teeth issue is secondary.

robin7
06-05-2007, 05:24 AM
Obviously, China has no problems reaching the final.

These are the possible scorelines:
CHN-XXX 3-0 (XXX=MAS, INA, DEN, KOR)
XD 1-0
MS 1-0
WS 1-0
CHN-XXX 3-1 (XXX=MAS, INA, DEN)
XD 1-0
MS 0-1
WS 1-0
MD 1-0
CHN-XXX 3-2 (XXX=MAS, INA, DEN)
XD 1-0
MS 0-1
WS 1-0
MD 0-1
WD 1-0
CHN-XXX 2-3 (XXX=MAS, INA)
XD 0-1
MS 0-1
WS 1-0
MD 0-1
WD 1-0

Conclusion:
(1) CHN almost got 2 points from WS & WD and it just needs another point from XD, MS & MD to seal the victory.
(2) The opponents can only steal points from MS, MD & XD.
(3) MAS & INA (with stronger MS & MD) are the only teams who can beat China (3-2).
(4) If the order of play is XD-MS-WS-MD-WD, then CHN can beat anyone 3-0.

robin7
06-05-2007, 05:37 AM
INA-MAS tie

Taufik Hidayat vs Lee Chong Wei (50-50)
Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (30-70)
WS vs Wong Mew Choo (40-60)
WD vs WOng Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (60-40)
Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir vs Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (90-10)

sorry i dunno what is the line-up for WD and WS for INA... :D

U don't even know the line-up for WD and WS for INA, how can u come with the 40-60 & 60-40?

IMO, INA will only have better chances in XD & MS.

Whatever it is, MAS will beat INA at least 3-2.

robin7
06-05-2007, 05:47 AM
For critical match such as semifinal or final game, I think Malaysia may not field Tan Wee Kiong/ Woon Khe Wei as their XD. Malaysia XD could be 2006 World Championship semifinalist KKK/WPT against the Indonesian. Or at least, for a safer bet, Malaysia may field Wong CH/ WPT ( It was always this pair in the past Sudirman Cup and Commonwealth Games Team events).

Yup, I think WCH/WKW instead of KKK/WPT will be playing XD in SF or F.
TWK/WKW are most likely playing XD during early rounds for experience exposure.

saugusli
06-05-2007, 10:53 PM
I am disagree with u. China Vs Malaysia will be 4-1. WMC can beat (XXF or Zang Ning)

KKK-TBH also difficult to beat China Man Double (Ranking No.1). and also LCW will be lost to LD actually...

So my predict if Final: China Vs Malaysia: 3-0. or will continue will be 4-1/5-0.

I would have to disagree on the CHINA vs Malaysia Final prediction. I think it will be 3-2, either way. I predict LCW and KKK-TBH winning, and probably WMC to surprise, and that is why the 3-2. It will be a narrow win for either. Not 4-1 !

saugusli
06-05-2007, 11:49 PM
If China reach to final and Ina also reach to final. It is will be the good game.

And China and Ina will be preparing best players for final:
China:
MS: LD
MD: FHF/CY
XD: Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
WS: Zang Ning
WD: LYB want Gao Ling to join 2 times

Ina:
MS: TH
MD: Chandra-Hendra Setiawan
XD: Flandy/Vita
WS: Maria
WD: Vita/Grace

Obviously, China has no problems reaching the final.

These are the possible scorelines:
CHN-XXX 3-0 (XXX=MAS, INA, DEN, KOR)
XD 1-0
MS 1-0
WS 1-0
CHN-XXX 3-1 (XXX=MAS, INA, DEN)
XD 1-0
MS 0-1
WS 1-0
MD 1-0
CHN-XXX 3-2 (XXX=MAS, INA, DEN)
XD 1-0
MS 0-1
WS 1-0
MD 0-1
WD 1-0
CHN-XXX 2-3 (XXX=MAS, INA)
XD 0-1
MS 0-1
WS 1-0
MD 0-1
WD 1-0

Conclusion:
(1) CHN almost got 2 points from WS & WD and it just needs another point from XD, MS & MD to seal the victory.
(2) The opponents can only steal points from MS, MD & XD.
(3) MAS & INA (with stronger MS & MD) are the only teams who can beat China (3-2).
(4) If the order of play is XD-MS-WS-MD-WD, then CHN can beat anyone 3-0.

saugusli
06-05-2007, 11:53 PM
Hi Robin7,

Disagree with u. Ina got strong players for MS, XD, WD, and MD...
You forgot INA WD always beat Malaysia WD OK, exspecially Vita/Grace...

Malaysia got strong players for MD only.

So Ina will beat Malaysia easier (3-0, 4-1, 3-2)..

U don't even know the line-up for WD and WS for INA, how can u come with the 40-60 & 60-40?

IMO, INA will only have better chances in XD & MS.

Whatever it is, MAS will beat INA at least 3-2.

robin7
06-06-2007, 12:54 AM
Hi Robin7,

Disagree with u. Ina got strong players for MS, XD, WD, and MD...
You forgot INA WD always beat Malaysia WD OK, exspecially Vita/Grace...

Malaysia got strong players for MD only.

So Ina will beat Malaysia easier (3-0, 4-1, 3-2)..

I agree that INA has strong players for MS, MD & XD but not WD.
Its WD was strong 10 years ago but not now...
In terms of world ranking as at 31st May 2007, MAS WD is at 7th spot whereas INA WD occupies positions 13th and 16th.

Click here to check the current world ranking (http://www.internationalbadminton.org/womensdoubles.asp).

MAS WS & MD have the upper hands over INA.
INA XD has the edge over MAS.
MS is 50:50 for MAS & INA.
Even it’s a 50:50 in WD, MAS can still win 3-2.

Last but not least, there is nothing calls "always" in sports encounters unless u show me some statistics.

robin7
06-06-2007, 01:17 AM
Addition to the previous post:
In terms of head-to-head, WONG-CHIN vs NURSUGIANTI-MUNDIASTI 2 : 1; WONG-CHIN vs POLII-MARISSA 0 : 1.

It's a 50:50 game.

Speed & Power
06-06-2007, 04:40 PM
China vs Malaysia: 4-1 or 5-0 to China
*MAS might snatch a point from MD

Malaysia vs England: 4-1/3-2 or 2-3
*MAS will secure MS & MD easily but faces uncertainty in WS/WD
*British XD is a confirmed take for Brits

CHN & MAS go through to semis from Gp 1

Indonesia vs Korea: 4-1/3-2 or 2-3
*MS is secured for INA but MD,XD,WD & WS can swing either way
However, Indon squad have more depth overall and should beat South Korea

Indonesia vs Denmark: 3-2 or 2-3
*PGC will give Taufik a run for his $$, veteran Danish MD will prove tough nut for Indon youngsters to crack, Danish might pull off a suprise in any of the women-related events; otherwise if according to normalcy the Indons should win but by a small margin!

Korea vs Denmark: 3-2 or 2-3
*very close call; Danish secures MS but MD can go either way so is the XD, Koreans have slight advantage in the WD, WS is an open affair
Korean women-related events might prove vital for their team's qualification to the semis

INA & KOR advance to semis from Gp 2

CHN vs KOR: 5-0
*Koreans outclassed by the Chinese

INA vs MAS: 3-2 or 2-3
*TH vs LCW can go either way although TH is the favorite for that tie
KKK/Tbh should take MD tie
WMC is the favorite for the WS tie
INA girls will take the WD tie
INA XD will prevail over MAS pair
*as you can see the MS is the key tie that will determine victory for INA or MAS

CHN vs INA: 5-0 or 4-1

amaze
06-07-2007, 10:40 AM
Is there any TV coverage for this game ?

robin7
06-08-2007, 07:13 AM
....
INA vs MAS: 3-2 or 2-3
*TH vs LCW can go either way although TH is the favorite for that tie
KKK/Tbh should take MD tie
WMC is the favorite for the WS tie
INA girls will take the WD tie
INA XD will prevail over MAS pair
*as you can see the MS is the key tie that will determine victory for INA or MAS
....


I think MS as well as WD are the key ties that will determine the victory.

In terms of head-to-head, Wong-Chin vs Nursugianti-Mundiasti 2 : 1; Wong-Chin vs Polii-Marissa 0 : 1.