ANNOUNCEMENT : new look for BC

[kwun]

Hi all,

i took some time to refresh the look and feel of the forum. i hope you all like it.

there are still some bits and pieces that needs to be ironed out, but you can clearly see the direction i am heading towards.

- the top header is slimmer, giving more space for the content.
- color scheme is now much more coherent
- IE/Firefox should look very similar.
- oversize images now handled pretty nicely

[Dreamzz]

Hi all,

i took some time to refresh the look and feel of the forum. i hope you all like it.

there are still some bits and pieces that needs to be ironed out, but you can clearly see the direction i am heading towards.

- the top header is slimmer, giving more space for the content.
- color scheme is now much more coherent
- IE/Firefox should look very similar.
- oversize images now handled pretty nicely

woah, it all just changed on me suddenly upon refresh .... looks pretty good so far though!

[kwun]

a couple more things:

- the review and gallery section automatically inherits the same look. seems to be ok there.
- the front page will take a bit more time to finish.
- i have tried both IE and Firefox and they both look good, but i have don't have access to a Mac, if there are any Mac users, can you let me know if it looks OK from there?

[FEND.]

Is it me or is it light blue?!?!?! WOAH

[drifit]

kwun,
these are fantastic work that you have done.
keep up the good work, we keep up the supports

[drifit]

kwun,
1 small request, can you pls change the background picture on this top page?
i think is not appropriate or the position of the picture is slightly out....
get notice the central and forum.....

[Pete LSD]

Banner's background photo is stretched and warped. The background looks like GGBC.

[Zero_Cool]

yup....only you....(joking...!) hahaha

it's a cool colour ..!

[kwun]

kwun,
1 small request, can you pls change the background picture on this top page?
i think is not appropriate or the position of the picture is slightly out....
get notice the central and forum.....

can you elaborate? i am not following what you are trying to suggest.

[Loh]

I could not see any pictures in the heading.

But the colour looks a more sophiscated turquoise blue and I like it.

[kwun]

I could not see any pictures in the heading.

But the colour looks a more sophiscated turquoise blue and I like it.

Loh what web browser and what version are you using?

[Loh]

Loh what web browser and what version are you using?

I'm using Microsoft IE (Internet Explorer), version:6.0.2800.1106.;)

[ants]

It does look nice. I'm using both Vista and Mac versions at the same time. But it look a little dull on Mac and Vista. Maybe the color should look a little sharper and slightly darker.

[azabaz_ipoh]

love the new colour. it runs a bit slow on my comp. maybe that is just my comp. kwun i know i already asked you in a private message but the google search thingy. is it gone? anyway, it look good and weel done kwun. keep up the excellent work. :D;)

[kwun]

love the new colour. it runs a bit slow on my comp. maybe that is just my comp. kwun i know i already asked you in a private message but the google search thingy. is it gone? anyway, it look good and weel done kwun. keep up the excellent work. :D;)

glad you like it!

google search: i will put that back. thanks for reminding me!

[Kelvin]

B. E. A. Utiful :D:D:D

[wilfredlgf]

As long as it loads quicker than the previous one, no complaints.

[Gollum]

I like it :) The colours are much fresher and bolder.

The top navigation doesn't work. All of the links (knowledge base.....gallery) just point to the forums. In fact, the entire image just behaves as a single link.

The stretched court picture at the top looks a bit odd.

[phaarix]

Looks good to me :). Just a couple of things I thought:

First I quite liked it centered. Just seems a bit unbalanced on the left. I think it would be even more so on a higher resolution wide screen monitor? Also, howwould the ads look if they were down the right hand side? I think they are too dominant on the left as that's where your eyes are first drawn to. I think it might look slightly less cluttered if they were placed down the right hand side.

Also not too sure about the two greens near the ads. Especially the lighter one. It just looks a bit sickly. Personally I'd go for another blue or orange colour and keep it nice and simple.

Also, (and I think this i just because you haven't finished yet), the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom of the page needs to be changed to the same grey colours used in the actual posts. At the moment it's a slightly blueish purple and like the green on the side, it looks a bit sickly.

I think the logo was a bit better when the shuttlecock took the place of the "t" in "Badminton" (I've got that right I hope heh).

Don't get me wrong, I like it so far :)! I just want it to be the best it can be :D!

[phaarix]

Well, this is a quick mockup of what I kind of meant. I think I went overboard actually and completely changed most of it lol, sorry!

But here it is anyway, food for thought:

http://i8.tinypic.com/6h7r9z9.png

I'm going for simplicity and it should be easy to see where everything is. I also darkened certain parts of the website for contrast to make it easier for the eyes to focus on the middle of the page where they should be :).

Anyway this is just what I think.

[drifit]

can you elaborate? i am not following what you are trying to suggest.
ok, this new header, the background photo, i guess is women doubles is playing.
these 2 person being cut off at waist and knee section.
can you get what i mean? look at the wording central at badmintoncentral.com and forum.
if can, i have this small request is to change the photo.
thanks......:)

[silentheart]

like it, need to get use to it.

[deROSE]

Haven't logged in for quite a while.
Nice to see some changes!
:)

[kwun]

I like it :) The colours are much fresher and bolder.

The top navigation doesn't work. All of the links (knowledge base.....gallery) just point to the forums. In fact, the entire image just behaves as a single link.

The stretched court picture at the top looks a bit odd.

there are still a few kinks that needs to be ironed out:

- the shuttlecock above the ads is actually a space for a menu system that will link to other parts of the site
- the top nav links
- the footer looks a bit strange.

it was difficult to find a photo that is badminton related, has the right color combination, and fits into the space above. i might go off and take one for that purpose later but for now this one will stay.

[kwun]

As long as it loads quicker than the previous one, no complaints.

in theory it should. the layout is now done using CSS. and with the fancy hackery, the main content is actually loaded before the side panel and the header. so the content should come up faster than before.

another plus with this CSS code i am using is that now very large image don't stretch out the entire site. the image simply just overflows to the right hand side.

[kwun]

Looks good to me :). Just a couple of things I thought:
...

Don't get me wrong, I like it so far :)! I just want it to be the best it can be :D!

thanks. as you probably figured, i am not planning to make big changes at this point. ;) i will however continue to make small improvement to make it better.

[yoyomonkey]

hey kwun can you centered the page, i most users now have widescreen and it look too much to the left.

[phaarix]

thanks. as you probably figured, i am not planning to make big changes at this point. ;) i will however continue to make small improvement to make it better.

Cool :) thanks for reading my post, like I said it's looking good anyway so nothing too major is really necessary :cool:.

[Gollum]

in theory it should. the layout is now done using CSS. and with the fancy hackery, the main content is actually loaded before the side panel and the header. so the content should come up faster than before.

another plus with this CSS code i am using is that now very large image don't stretch out the entire site. the image simply just overflows to the right hand side.

Wow. My jaw actually dropped when I read that.

Well done for making the difficult switch from tables to CSS!

It would be really, really easy to centre the whole site in the browser window. Personally I think that would look much better. If you want some help with the code, let me know.

**Edit**

I hate to be querulous, but the source code suggests your layout is not done using CSS, but with tables. What gives?

Is the table crappo just the inherited forum stuff, with all your nice CSS wrapping around it?

[kwun]

Wow. My jaw actually dropped when I read that.

Well done for making the difficult switch from tables to CSS!

It would be really, really easy to centre the whole site in the browser window. Personally I think that would look much better. If you want some help with the code, let me know.

**Edit**

I hate to be querulous, but the source code suggests your layout is not done using CSS, but with tables. What gives?

Is the table crappo just the inherited forum stuff, with all your nice CSS wrapping around it?

yes. the overall layout is CSS. but the code generated by the forum software is table based. no way i am going to go muck around with the forum code to fix that... ;)

[kwun]

to their defense though, table isn't all bad. a lot of places where tables are used, they are used appropriately.

[ctjcad]

...hmm, interesting new layout and color scheme, kwun..I thought i woke up this morning on the wrong side of my bed:p...but wow, the whole site looks so................."lavenderish"..hehe:p:D;)
Anyways, the first time i logged in, i had to adjust and get used to the new layout and color scheme...At first it looks a bit washed out(like what phaarix mentioned), but i guess i'll(all of us) just have to get use to it..;):cool:

[Gollum]

yes. the overall layout is CSS. but the code generated by the forum software is table based. no way i am going to go muck around with the forum code to fix that... ;)

Good call :D


to their defense though, table isn't all bad. a lot of places where tables are used, they are used appropriately.


Tables are for presenting tabular data. That's a good use.

Using them to create layout grids was a brilliant hack, but now we have CSS. CSS is more efficient and more accessible. Unfortunately, CSS layout design is rather an eldritch art; most beginners find it counter-intuitive. Internet Explorer's CSS support is also a problem, and "experts" recommending stupid CSS hacks add to the mess.

Some layouts are hideously difficult to achieve with CSS, so tables make sense. On the other hand, I question the need for really complex grid layouts.

Tables-for-layout should finally die once CSS-3 is complete and browsers support it. It's going to be a long wait :(

[fast3r]

Looks good to me :). Just a couple of things I thought:

First I quite liked it centered. Just seems a bit unbalanced on the left. I think it would be even more so on a higher resolution wide screen monitor? Also, howwould the ads look if they were down the right hand side? I think they are too dominant on the left as that's where your eyes are first drawn to. I think it might look slightly less cluttered if they were placed down the right hand side.

Also not too sure about the two greens near the ads. Especially the lighter one. It just looks a bit sickly. Personally I'd go for another blue or orange colour and keep it nice and simple.

Also, (and I think this i just because you haven't finished yet), the "Quick Reply" box at the bottom of the page needs to be changed to the same grey colours used in the actual posts. At the moment it's a slightly blueish purple and like the green on the side, it looks a bit sickly.

I think the logo was a bit better when the shuttlecock took the place of the "t" in "Badminton" (I've got that right I hope heh).

Don't get me wrong, I like it so far :)! I just want it to be the best it can be :D!

I like the new look but I kind of agree with a couple of phaarix's points; I also think it would be better centred, and also that the green colour is a bit 'sickly', although maybe I just need time to get used to it:o

[CoolDoo6]

WOA !!! I was away for a few days cos I was busy and BANG!!! BC turned totally, well whats the word, erhm 70's. Well, ok, ok, the desinger is doing it for free. But I just can't help stating what hits my eyes. The BC of 2 designs ago was definitely more manly and impactful with its solid definitions. The pastels are a bit too "nice". This gives one the urge to powder one's nose

[Dreamzz]

the only colour i don't really like is the pale green on the left side panel that runs down the length of the thread, otherwise i'm liking the change.

[Whoopty]

Looks much better than the standard Vb theme.

[Tsumaranai]

The overall new look is nice. The background on the header could definitely use a replacement, as others have said. If you really want to take a picture yourself, Kwun, it would be cool and more original. However, if you don't want to go through the hassle, it'd be easier to just tint a good picture you find.

I find the colors a little too light. They somewhat draw you away from the main part of the site. I like phaarix's scheme a little better, as there's more of a crispness to it.

[azabaz_ipoh]

i saw phaarix suggestion. i think i agree with putting the ads on the right hand side. it looks better i think. and i do love the current blue and orange theme. i guess the green is a bit, and i quote "makes me want to powder my nose". but because i am a girl, it's an ok feeling. but for the guys, maybe they will question their inner self. he he he he he he. just kidding.

[kwun]

i saw phaarix suggestion. i think i agree with putting the ads on the right hand side. it looks better i think. and i do love the current blue and orange theme. i guess the green is a bit, and i quote "makes me want to powder my nose". but because i am a girl, it's an ok feeling. but for the guys, maybe they will question their inner self. he he he he he he. just kidding.

haha. to tell you the reasons behind the color. the green and blue are both "real" colors that i sampled from badminton gyms. the green as you see look quite similar to the green floormats that are used commonly in tournaments, and the blue i sampled it from yet another gym floor. the orange however was created by me to balance the color out a bit.

i believe using real world sampled color is quite meaningful as a badminton website, and we cannot deny that badminton is quite commonly associated with the green and blue.

[UserBlade]

I like it nice goin Kwun mad props.....Kudos :D

[Felicia_txh]

Hmmm..It's great!!;):D

[GunBlade008]

I like it :D Great job kwun!

[Blurry D]

Awesome job Kwun!!! i am loving this new out look!!! its great!!!!

[chickenpoodle]

a suggestion could be using a base colors of greens for the tables, and for the headers and breaks, we use black or white (for court lines), and then fill in the rest of the colors as needed, making the thread layouts similar to that of courts themselves.

otherwise, the new look gives it an overall fresh feel, and its welcomed. :)

[bluejeff]

whoa, this is major change!
So far so good :)

[winstonchan]

Nice work Kwun. I like the colour scheme, and the neater layout.

Winston

[Double_Player]

I don't like the pic/banner background pic on the very top of the page. looks strectched and compressed at the same time.

[Kimmysolucious]

Thank Kwun for everything :D

[Linus]

Thanks Kwun for the refreshing look.

One comment though, the topic title/header colour (yellow) does not really stand out from the pale blue backgound strip. But this is not important and overall the colour scheme looks very cool.

[tjl_vanguard]

haha thx Kwun.. actually you just did the "WORLD" a great favour.. :D

[kwun]

thanks guys. i am quite happy with the results and that makes the work much more enjoyable!

[phaarix]

thanks guys. i am quite happy with the results and that makes the work much more enjoyable!

That's what I love about design. The sense of pride you get (most of the time) in the final result :).

[counterfeit]

Am I the only one not to like this new look?!
I think that a change was necessary but the association of these colours is rather strange.

And you can remove the header image, because we can see it.
But I know it's a hard job so congratulations !

[ixory]

My first impression..am i at badmintoncental???:eek::D:p..surprised with the changes after not log on for several days but it's nice..good job kwun..;)..

[phaarix]

In my opinion nine times out of ten, unless a website is stretched to fill the whole window, it looks better centered. I also think the ads should be down the right hand side. Those are really the two major things for me (also the quick reply box still needs to be grey to suit the rest of the site.

[apache7175]

Wow !!! It certainly looks much better !!!!
Good work !!!

[j_e_thompson]

Wow !!! It certainly looks much better !!!!
Good work !!!

Couldn't have said it better myself!

[susanong]

great new look :D thanks kwun :)
looks nice using IE ver 7.0.5730.11
the only problem i have is i cant use search :crying: nothing came out when i click
pls help, thanks a million !

[drifit]

i am using mozilla firefox 2.0.0.3 and the search is ok.

[Gollum]

Kwun,

If you would like to centre the page, just add this at the end of your stylesheet:
#fullheightcontainer {
margin: 0 auto;
}
I've tested it (IE6, IE7, and FF2) on your site and it works. Strangely, nothing happens in Opera, but that hardly matters. IE5 never gets this right, but it won't be harmed either.

BTW -- hacky, hacky stylesheet :p Beware the allure of CSS hacks. They are fiends in disguise. Bewaaaaare! ;)

[azabaz_ipoh]

so, the search option still down huh? had a jolly good time browsing manually through the various topics. found some topics i never read before. so there is a silver lining.... he he he he :D

[wilfredlgf]

Kwun,

If you would like to centre the page, just add this at the end of your stylesheet:
#fullheightcontainer {
margin: 0 auto;
}
I've tested it (IE6, IE7, and FF2) on your site and it works. Strangely, nothing happens in Opera, but that hardly matters. IE5 never gets this right, but it won't be harmed either.

I don't think 'auto' works with IE6, does it? Not at least what I read and tested.

One hack I know of is to use
text-align:center;to centre all elements into the page, then
text-align:left;for all elements in the DIV itself, provided all the boxes are DIVs, not tables. ;)

[Gollum]

I don't think 'auto' works with IE6, does it? Not at least what I read and tested.

One hack I know of is to use
text-align:center;to centre all elements into the page, then
text-align:left;for all elements in the DIV itself, provided all the boxes are DIVs, not tables. ;)

I'll say again: I tested it for BC, and it worked ;)

Yes, "auto margins" do work with IE6. They fail in IE5, for which the hack you mention is necessary.

They only fail if IE6 is in quirks mode -- that is, it's behaving as IE5. Kwun has declared a correct Doctype, so IE6 is in standards compliant mode.

And I knew it would work before I even looked at his code, because my browser tells me whether a site is in standards compliant mode or quirks mode :D

[Gollum]

By the way, wilfredlgf --

If you are making websites in quirks mode, I highly recommend you change. IE6 is bad enough without using the IE5 layout/rendering engine.

Fix your site with the right DOCTYPE! (http://alistapart.com/stories/doctype/)

[wilfredlgf]

By the way, wilfredlgf --

If you are making websites in quirks mode, I highly recommend you change. IE6 is bad enough without using the IE5 layout/rendering engine.

Fix your site with the right DOCTYPE! (http://alistapart.com/stories/doctype/)

Nay, I did it with the proper DOCTYPE - in fact I can't remember how many times I went to ALA to look for the correct notation.

<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd">I blame the Mammons! :mad:

[Gollum]

Nay, I did it with the proper DOCTYPE - in fact I can't remember how many times I went to ALA to look for the correct notation.

Hmm, that's strange :(

If you use Firefox, the excellent webdev (https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/60) extension indicates whether a site is in standards or quirks mode.

I've been using auto margins for ages with no problems in IE6/Win :confused: I keep the text-align hack for IE5 only.

**Edit**

I think I found your problem.

Doctype switching depends on which doctypes the browser recognises. If you are using XHTML Trans. with an XML declaration, then it appears that IE6 will render in quirks mode.

See this page for details: http://hsivonen.iki.fi/doctype/

Frankly, I can't see a good reason for using XHTML anyway, given that IE doesn't support the correct MIME type. It's just asking for headaches :( Unless you need to incorporate another markup module such as MathML, XHTML currently does nothing better than HTML.

I use good old HTML 4.01. It doesn't have that sexy "X" in front, but in all other respects it works just as well.

[wilfredlgf]

Frankly, I can't see a good reason for using XHTML anyway, given that IE doesn't support the correct MIME type. It's just asking for headaches :( Unless you need to incorporate another markup module such as MathML, XHTML currently does nothing better than HTML.

I use good old HTML 4.01. It doesn't have that sexy "X" in front, but in all other respects it works just as well.

I was wondering about that myself a long while ago but one of the really important features of XHTML is the 'portability' of the code, making it readable in all standard devices.

Either way, XHTML does have some advantages - the most important being that people would care to code it properly albeit a little stricter and possibly lengthier eg. target="_blank" getting depreciated.

So in this case, neither you and I were wrong - it's just the browser being improperly programmed to parse the code. I just happened to stumble upon XHTML when the boss asked me to redesign the company's webpage.

Don't get me started on IE's CSS support.

Still, http://www.w3.org/Icons/valid-xhtml10 would look pretty sexy on a website as much as the ISO series are on an industrial brochure and namecard, yes? ;)

[Gollum]

I like the idea of ultra-strict coding -- so that if you make a syntax error, the whole thing breaks :D That way, everyone would be forced to correct their mistakes.

It's a fanciful, code-geek dream. It's not going to happen, however much I'd like it to -- not until WYSIWYG programs generate valid code by default.

But I validate my code anyway. Okay, so the HTML 4.01 validator won't check for nuances such as closing <p> and <li> tags. Big deal. I write them anyway, and if I miss one it's hardly the end of the world.

Just remember that if XHTML is served with a MIME type of "text/html", then it is no longer XHTML.

On the whole, I agree with Anne van Kesteren on the merits of XHTML:
XHTML is invalid HTML. (http://annevankesteren.nl/2004/06/invalid-html)

[Gollum]

This page is also good on the reality of XHTML: http://webkit.org/blog/?p=68


All those “Valid XHTML 1.0!” links on the web are really saying “Invalid HTML 4.01!

Also, Mozilla doesn't like XHTML too much: http://www.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/faq.html#xhtmldiff


In versions prior to Gecko 1.9/Firefox 3, the document is not loaded and rendered incrementally. That is, the document is displayed only after the entire document has been received and parsed.

[wilfredlgf]

On the matter of merits and demerits of XHTML, I have to mention that XHTML self-educates by pointing out how tags are properly used as most newbies (me included) began learning web coding by imitating/copying/studying codes from other sites, great majority which aren't properly written eg. no closing tags. HTML care little if not whether they existed or not.

Still, the regimented style of coding brought about by XHTML does help to make it clearer and cleaner - try debugging a piece of web code when you don't know where the elements start and stop. It's like doing C++ without the closing brackets or semicolon! :)

[wilfredlgf]

I rue lack of the possibilities of a joker coming in here and saying:

"Get a room, you two geeks".

:D

[Gollum]

I rue lack of the possibilities of a joker coming in here and saying:

"Get a room, you two geeks".

:D

Too late now, you beat them to it ;)

I agree with all your points about XHTML. The purist in me wants to use XHTML. The purist in me feels that XHTML is The One True Way. The purist in me lusts after birch-rod beatings from a stricter master.

But the web developer in me says, "Don't be a fool. Web design is not an aesthetic ideal; it's not about being clever for the sake of being clever. Web design is about making sites work."

[wilfredlgf]

Screw validation and embrace the graphical utopia that is Frontpage and Dreamweaver!

[Gollum]

Screw validation and embrace the graphical utopia that is Frontpage and Dreamweaver!

Erk!

They don't make sites that work; they just make sites that appear to work.

Similarly...screw Frontpage and Dreamweaver, and embrace the graphical supernova that is Photoshop. Make the website one big image, and every browser will display it perfectly!

[wilfredlgf]

Erk!

They don't make sites that work; they just make sites that appear to work.
:D

But we digress...

Nice vertical green bar.

[azabaz_ipoh]

i am glad there's self admitted geeks here. not that i dont love em. in fact i need you guys to answer one of my questions. does the search option not working for everybody or is it just me? because if everybody else have no problem with the search option, maybe i need to see what my computer problem is. sorry to be a bother. :D

[ctjcad]

..at least on my end..what specifically are you looking for or not seeing??..:confused:

[phaarix]

Similarly...screw Frontpage and Dreamweaver, and embrace the graphical supernova that is Photoshop. Make the website one big image, and every browser will display it perfectly!

That's almost what I do :). I create one big design in Photoshop, then when it's finished I cut/slice it up as necessary. My two main website tools are Photoshop and Notepad :D.

[azabaz_ipoh]

..at least on my end..what specifically are you looking for or not seeing??..:confused:

whenever i click on the search option, nothing came out. like it's hanged or something. but nothing came out. usually, before, when i clicked on the search option, a pop out that shows an small area where i can type in what i want to search. now, nothing comes out at all. :(

[ctjcad]

whenever i click on the search option, nothing came out. like it's hanged or something. but nothing came out. usually, before, when i clicked on the search option, a pop out that shows an small area where i can type in what i want to search. now, nothing comes out at all. :(
..what browser are you using??:confused:..I'm, strictly, using the latest IExplorer (6.0) both at home & work...When i click the Search button, it pops out that small search box..

[azabaz_ipoh]

errr.... i know i use internet explorer but i have no idea what version it is. is there a difference? i think, most probably, i am using the IE 7.

[wilfredlgf]

Is Javascript enabled on your browser?

I just did a test by turning it off and the small area doesn't pop up - it jumps straight to the search page.

Works fine for me.

[azabaz_ipoh]

i tried using mozilla firefox. that one worked fine. but i like the look and feel of the IE i am using now. *sigh* do i have to use mozilla from now on?

[azabaz_ipoh]

ok, i'll see about the javascript thingy. hold on....

[azabaz_ipoh]

i cant find any javascript thingy in the security settings. all i can find is active X or something. forgive my ignorance on this matter. what's funny though is that all the other options like new posts, and today's posts, and member's list and even the quick links are working but not the search option.

[ctjcad]

errr.... i know i use internet explorer but i have no idea what version it is. is there a difference? i think, most probably, i am using the IE 7.
..what version of IE you're using, just click on the 'Help' button above and then click on 'About Internet Explorer'..you should see which version of IE you're using..;)

[azabaz_ipoh]

yep, IE 7. that's the version i am using. i tried to find the java thingy and was told to upgrade my java. so i did. now the search option goes twilight zone. sometimes i click on it, the small box appear. other times, nothing happen. most of the time it works when i just clicked on a topic to read. then i clicked search and the small box appear. i read the topic and when i clicked search again, back to square one. this is baffling me to say the least.

[ctjcad]

yep, IE 7. that's the version i am using. i tried to find the java thingy and was told to upgrade my java. so i did. now the search option goes twilight zone. sometimes i click on it, the small box appear. other times, nothing happen. most of the time it works when i just clicked on a topic to read. then i clicked search and the small box appear. i read the topic and when i clicked search again, back to square one. this is baffling me to say the least.
..sorry, i'm not using version 7 currently:p..Maybe it's got something to do with the version of IE we're using??..:confused:

[azabaz_ipoh]

maybe. can anybody help me with this. thanks for your reply ctjcad. :)

[susanong]

im using IE7 and face the same problem on search click and quick links click ... i truly hope someone can help

i did PM kwun but no reply on this :crying: :crying: :crying: somebody pls help !!!

thanks a million ...

[susanong]

like azabaz_ipoh said, i cant find any javascript to enabled it :crying::crying::crying: ohhh ... pls help us ...

[ctjcad]

im using IE7 and face the same problem on search click and quick links click ... i truly hope someone can help

i did PM kwun but no reply on this :crying: :crying: :crying: somebody pls help !!!

thanks a million ...
..kwun knows and acknowledges the possible glitch..;)..

[kwun]

..kwun knows and acknowledges the possible glitch..;)..

well, looks like *some* ppl with IE7 is having issues. but i have tested it myself and it worked for me.

to see if you have javascript is simple, do you see the advertising on the left hand column? if not, then javascript is not enabled. if you see the advertising and you are still not seeing the search box, you can try go to:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/search.php

for the time being...

[susanong]

hi kwun ... where can i find javascript to enabled it ?
thanks

[susanong]

oooppsss ... sorry kwun ... i saw the ad on L side
guess i'll just need to use the link u gave
thanks :) something better than nothing ;)

[wilfredlgf]

yep, IE 7.
Seems to work for me.

[wilfredlgf]

Have a look at this lads:

http://www.tranexp.com/win/JavaScript-enabling.htm#MSIE7

FYI, Java and Javascript are different things - don't get mixed up!

[azabaz_ipoh]

Have a look at this lads:

http://www.tranexp.com/win/JavaScript-enabling.htm#MSIE7

FYI, Java and Javascript are different things - don't get mixed up!

Thank you wilfred. i hope by lads, you mean ladies, because i am no guy and i believe so is susan. he he he he. i checked the javascript and it is enable. but still the search option kinda goes twilight zone on me. nonetheless, the method kwun mention still can work. so if i want to search, i simply open the search option in a new tab. just a little more work. no biggie. :D

[wilfredlgf]

Thank you wilfred. i hope by lads, you mean ladies, because i am no guy and i believe so is susan. he he he he. i checked the javascript and it is enable. but still the search option kinda goes twilight zone on me. nonetheless, the method kwun mention still can work. so if i want to search, i simply open the search option in a new tab. just a little more work. no biggie. :D
You two were girls?!

My apologies, lasses. :o

And no, lads meant guys.

[susanong]

yah ... like azabaz_ipoh said ... we both are ladies ... only difference ... she is young lady n i'm old lady ... hahahaha :D

it doesnt work for IE7 so we wil follow what kwun advise :cool:

[kwun]

Kwun,

If you would like to centre the page, just add this at the end of your stylesheet:
#fullheightcontainer {
margin: 0 auto;
}
I've tested it (IE6, IE7, and FF2) on your site and it works. Strangely, nothing happens in Opera, but that hardly matters. IE5 never gets this right, but it won't be harmed either.

BTW -- hacky, hacky stylesheet :p Beware the allure of CSS hacks. They are fiends in disguise. Bewaaaaare! ;)

Thanks for the code. i have included it. :)

[phaarix]

Much easier to look at now it's in the centre :). Thanks!

[14players]

Hi kwun,
i'm new here,
and would like to give my opinion. this forum looks great and fresh. a well done job i must say. if the light green line on the left is to be navy blue or any other blue, this place would definitely look perfect.

An example of all similar colours can be seen at the Roland Garros Tennis Courts, in France.

[Gollum]

Thanks for the code. i have included it. :)

Excellent! Glad to help :)

I notice that the site now switches between centred and left-aligned when you edit a post. This is odd, and a little disconcerting. Perhaps they are using different stylesheets, or the edit mode activates inline styles that override the stylesheet?

The centred view definitely looks better; in particular, the green border on the left gets more attention and feels more balanced.

[wilfredlgf]

It was left, then after logging in, the page was centred.

[wilfredlgf]

A good thing to add to the site...

;)

[ctjcad]

..kwun, the page is centered now:)..however, when i click on the Thread Tools and Forum Tools features(near the top), the options are now offset to the right, partially disappearing off the page.:confused:..Btw, i'm using IE 6.0..;)

[ctjcad]

im using IE7 and face the same problem on search click and quick links click ... i truly hope someone can help

i did PM kwun but no reply on this :crying: :crying: :crying: somebody pls help !!!

thanks a million ...


Thank you wilfred. i hope by lads, you mean ladies, because i am no guy and i believe so is susan. he he he he. i checked the javascript and it is enable. but still the search option kinda goes twilight zone on me. nonetheless, the method kwun mention still can work. so if i want to search, i simply open the search option in a new tab. just a little more work. no biggie. :D
(sorry abt this, kwun)..
...looks like i'm having the same if not similar issue as the ladies...Not only are the Forum & Thread Tools offset & partially disappear off the page, when i click them, but for some reason, when i click on the Quick Links and especially the Search features(at the top), and when i move the cursor/arrow, all those features/options just jump all over the place(even disappeared).:confused::p
Interestingly, this does not happen when i'm in the Reply or writing mode. Only in Reading mode:confused:
This didn't happen before today, prior to kwun changing the layout. I will see what happens later tonight, at home. No big deal, though.:)
*I'm using IE6.0 at home & work. Display at 1280x1024.

[ctjcad]

(sorry abt this, kwun)..
...looks like i'm having the same if not similar issue as the ladies...Not only are the Forum & Thread Tools offset & partially disappear off the page, when i click them, but for some reason, when i click on the Quick Links and especially the Search features(at the top), and when i move the cursor/arrow, all those features/options just jump all over the place(even disappeared).:confused::p
Interestingly, this does not happen when i'm in the Reply or writing mode. Only in Reading mode:confused:
..in Reading mode, it should be okay..But only IF we move the cursor vertically down and across after we click the Search feature, almost in a cautious way..If i move the cursor "quickly" either diagonally or horizontally, after clicking the Search feature, the Search box will disappear right away..;)

[ctjcad]

kwun, the page is centered now..however, when i click on the Thread Tools and Forum Tools features(near the top), the options are now offset to the right, partially disappearing off the page

..in Reading mode, it should be okay..But only IF we move the cursor vertically down and across after we click the Search feature, almost in a cautious way..If i move the cursor "quickly" either diagonally or horizontally, after clicking the Search feature, the Search box will disappear right away..;)
..abt the partial disappearance, actually they are there..I just need to use the scroll bar a bit to see the options:p...But, they are way to the side, from before..

[wilfredlgf]

..abt the partial disappearance, actually they are there..I just need to use the scroll bar a bit to see the options:p...But, they are way to the side, from before..
Now this is what you call self-help. :)

In respect to the positioning, the forum software may need to be tweaked - I sort of noticed the distinction between 'logged in' and 'anonymous' user while testing out Drupal.

Edit: Seems like that 'distinction' can be thrown out of the window - it goes left when I try to edit.

[ctjcad]

This didn't happen before today, prior to kwun changing the layout. I will see what happens later tonight, at home. No big deal, though.:)
..seems to look the same as in the office..:p
I also notice there is a divider band in each sub-forum now..separating & making the sticky threads more distinctive than the rest..:cool:

[kwun]

..seems to look the same as in the office..:p
I also notice there is a divider band in each sub-forum now..separating & making the sticky threads more distinctive than the rest..:cool:

aikes. yes. the centering is only working some of the times. all the pages are supposed to be using the same code. i am not sure why this is happening...

the divider is another new feature. :) separating out the stickies makes them stand out more and hopefully ppl will pay more attention!

[Gollum]

aikes. yes. the centering is only working some of the times. all the pages are supposed to be using the same code. i am not sure why this is happening...

the divider is another new feature. :) separating out the stickies makes them stand out more and hopefully ppl will pay more attention!

Erk! Sorry if I caused you trouble :o

The divider is a good idea :)

[wilfredlgf]

Erk! Sorry if I caused you trouble :o

The divider is a good idea :)
You are now the poster-boy of web standards, "Validate Now!".

[kwun]

Erk! Sorry if I caused you trouble :o


no problem. you are just trying to help. i did have to undo your change though. we will need to spend more time figuring out what is wrong..



The divider is a good idea :)

thanks. i like it too. :)

[ctjcad]

no problem. you are just trying to help. i did have to undo your change though. we will need to spend more time figuring out what is wrong.
...to before...kwun, i think the layout is ok either way, doesn't matter. I mean, at least the options, search boxes are still there, just a bit "displaced" if you switch to a center layout. Yes, we'll be waiting for a work-around, which i'm sure the solution is there..;):cool:

[Gollum]

no problem. you are just trying to help. i did have to undo your change though. we will need to spend more time figuring out what is wrong..

Yes, I was finding the site kept flickering between centred and left-aligned when I pressed buttons/clicked links :eek: Very strange!