CHN Sudirman Team 2007

[LI De Quan]

CHN Sudirman Team 2007

ZHENG Bo/GAO Ling , LIN Dan , XIE Xingfang ,
XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong , ZHANG Yawen/WEI Yili

HE Hanbin/Yu Yang , BAO Chunlai , ZHANG Ning ,
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , YANG Wei/ZHAO Tingting

[LI De Quan]

Maybe there will be two more people.
LYB said there will be 18 players.

[huangkwokhau]

good..INA has 20 but MAS has 10.....tough to beat CHN anyway....

[Jessica]

i think Mas should sent more player.10 is really risky.

[Felicia_txh]

HIaz..CHN-18 players Indonesia-20players MAS-10 players:eek:!!70% CHN can win..:o

[GunBlade008]

I don't understand the format, are countries allowed to send in as many teams as they want? And compete through the tournament or do they take turns playing?

[Felicia_txh]

I don't understand the format, are countries allowed to send in as many teams as they want? And compete through the tournament or do they take turns playing?
I hope the information on tis website can let u noe more bout Sudirman Cup
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/PDF%20-%20Regulations/214%20SUDIRMAN%20CUP%20REGULATIONS.pdf

[GunBlade008]

The page didn't load >< thank you anyways :)

[Tsumaranai]

I hope China wins!:D

and..


4. ENTRIES

4.1 Not later than nine months before the date of the Championships, the BWF shall send to all Member Associations an
invitation to compete.
4.2 Entries must be received by the Chief Operating Officer not later than the closing date notified in the invitation to
compete.
4.3 Taking account of the number of courts available at the chosen venue and to keep the duration of the Competition
reasonable, the Committee of Management may impose an upper limit on the number of entries which can be accepted.
4.4 The Committee of Management is empowered to select the entries to be accepted using the following considerations:
4.4.1 the ranking from the previous competition;
4.4.2 standard of play (as evidenced by World Ranking lists, Continental Championships, etc);
4.4.3 opportunities to support or enhance the development of the game;
4.4.4 any rejection of the entry of a given country at a previous Competition.
4.5 The Committee of Management shall have power to reject the entry of any Member Association:
4.5.1 which contains a condition unresolved at the time entries close;
4.5.2 whose entry is considered against the interest of the Competition or the game; or
4.5.3 which is in arrears in payment of subscriptions or which has any other indebtedness to the BWF.

[tommy_bun]

CHN Sudirman Team 2007

ZHENG Bo/GAO Ling , LIN Dan , XIE Xingfang ,
XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong , ZHANG Yawen/WEI Yili

HE Hanbin/Yu Yang , BAO Chunlai , ZHANG Ning ,
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , YANG Wei/ZHAO Tingting

Wow they send He Hanbin/Yu Yang as Zheng/Gao's back up instead of Xie/Zhang.It means LYB puts high hope to them for the future.
For WD,It's Sad to know that ZJW doesnt play,but I'm still glad coz LYB still believes in Yang/Zhao.

[Qidong]

Wow they send He Hanbin/Yu Yang as Zheng/Gao's back up instead of Xie/Zhang.It means LYB puts high hope to them for the future.


But both Xie Zhongbo and Zhang Yawen are in the team. I think LYB can still play them if necessary.

[blessing]

WOW~! can send more den 10 players.. i tot its max was 10 den only mas consider of this n that.. lolz..

[huangkwokhau]

LYB is known for taking risk but it si necessary to bring young players to feel pressures....plus CHN has strong team so it does not matter.....they will win....

[hcpoirot]

Wow they send He Hanbin/Yu Yang as Zheng/Gao's back up instead of Xie/Zhang.It means LYB puts high hope to them for the future.
For WD,It's Sad to know that ZJW doesnt play,but I'm still glad coz LYB still believes in Yang/Zhao.

If you look closely at the team members, China had 3 of their top XD pairs. And also 3 top WD pairs.


XD: Zheng Bo/ Gao Ling, Xie ZB/ Zhang YW, He Han Bin/ Yu Yang

WD: Zhang YW/Wei YL, Yang W/ Zhao TT, Gao Ling/Yu Yang

I believe LYB probably will play all the XD pairs in Sudirman Cup to gain Olympic points.

Maybe like this: ZB/GL play Thai pairs, Xie ZB/ Zhang YW play England pairs and He HB/Yu Y play Mas pairs.

[hcpoirot]

For another 2 slots, if I am LYB, I will bring one MS Chen Jin and one Ws Zhu Lin. They can play in group matches for Olympic points.

[CLELY]

As predicted earlier, CHN will bring their top-gun to seek six times winner of Sudirman Cup. And their dream will comes true soon in Glasgow unless miracles happen there. LYB is so smart take the youngster He Han Bin and Yu Yang into the squad to gain some experience in high-level team competition.

Probably CHN will set their premier line-up for Semifinal and Final matches like this:
XD -- Zheng/Gao
MS -- LD
WS -- Zhang Ning
MD -- Cai/Fu
WD -- Wei/Zhang

[LI De Quan]

latest news:
WS: ZN , XXF , ZL

[tommy_bun]

For another 2 slots, if I am LYB, I will bring one MS Chen Jin and one Ws Zhu Lin. They can play in group matches for Olympic points.

I think so,Zhu Lin and Chen Jin will take part also
For MX,Maybe LYB can pair up Zheng Bo/Zhao TingTing again..

[hcpoirot]

So my prediction is right. China WD and XD are strong. They can pair lots of pairs depending on who they meet.

The only sure bet is maybe MD, Cai/Fu will be played all the time. Except maybe when China meet Thailand. Maybe.

[LI De Quan]

latest news:
MS: LD , BCL , CJ

[LI De Quan]

sorry,everyone.

There is the official list:

MS: LD , BCL , CJ

WS:ZN , XXF , ZL

MD:CAI/FU , GUO ZD/XIE ZB

WD:GAO L/ZHANG JW , ZHANG YW/WEI YL , YANG W/ZHAO TT

XD:GAO L/ZHENG B , XIE ZB/ZHANG YW

[LI De Quan]

sorry,everyone.

There is the official list:

MS: LD , BCL , CJ

WS:ZN , XXF , ZL

MD:
CAI/FU ,
GUO ZD/XIE ZB

WD:
GAO L/ZHANG JW ,
ZHANG YW/WEI YL ,
YANG W/ZHAO TT

XD:
GAO L/ZHENG B ,
XIE ZB/ZHANG YW

[LI De Quan]

There will be two teams of 8 players compete against each other this evening.(at Beijing Time 7:30--2007-5-29)

Loong team（龙队）：

ZHENG B/GAO L , LD , XXF , GUO ZD/XIE ZB , ZHANG YW/WEI YL

Tiger team（虎队） ：

YU Y/HE HB , BCL , ZN , CAI/FU , YANG W/ZHAO TT

[twobeer]

The page didn't load >< thank you anyways :)
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/Twobeer

[LI De Quan]

HHB/YY 21-15,19-21, 15-21 ZB/GL
CAI Yun is "coaching" HHB/YY ;
XIE ZB is "coaching" ZB/GL.
many unforced errors from HHB.........

[blessing]

haha.. good n suprise way of training.. no doubt china produced talented players.. i like it~

[LI De Quan]

http://www.feidian.com/downloadFeidianTV.php

download and choose CCTV-5

[LI De Quan]

LD 21-13,9-11 BCL
ZN is coaching BCL ;
XXF is coaching LD,Hahaha........

[blessing]

LD 21-13,9-11 BCL
ZN is coaching BCL ;
XXF is coaching LD,Hahaha........muahaha.. Ld coaching xxf or xxf coaching ld.. lolz.. d world had turned upside down.. women coach male.. muahaha.. sounds funny.. imagine d way zn n xxf sat at d coaching seat like lyb did.. muahahahaa.. kenot tahan..

[LI De Quan]

Yes, now ZN and XXF are coach !!!!!

[LI De Quan]

ld 21-13,21-18 Bcl

[LI De Quan]

Now ZYW/WYL VS YW/ZTT..........

[blessing]

Now ZYW/WYL VS YW/ZTT..........who r their coach then..wakak..

[LI De Quan]

GL is coaching ZYW/WYL..

[2cents]

...
I believe LYB probably will play all the XD pairs in Sudirman Cup to gain Olympic points.

Maybe like this: ZB/GL play Thai pairs, Xie ZB/ Zhang YW play England pairs and He HB/Yu Y play Mas pairs.

You definitely outsmart LYB. :D

I would do the same as you suggested, but I don't think LYB will do that because:


LYB is not that smart enough to be able to calculate the points

LYB is not that interested in points

LYB doesn't want to balance all team members' points, but cares only his prodigy's points. I'm sure that Zhang Ning, Yu Yang, and Du Jin will play more because of LYB. It is absolutely true that LYB wants to guarantee those in the Olympics.

So it's all politics intead of mathematics

[2cents]

There will be two teams of 8 players compete against each other this evening.(at Beijing Time 7:30--2007-5-29)

Loong team（龙队）：

ZHENG B/GAO L , LD , XXF , GUO ZD/XIE ZB , ZHANG YW/WEI YL

Tiger team（虎队） ：

YU Y/HE HB , BCL , ZN , CAI/FU , YANG W/ZHAO TT

It seems that Loong team is the 1st team (starters) while Tiger team is the bench team. I believe Loong team will win over the tiger team.

[tommy_bun]

muahaha.. Ld coaching xxf or xxf coaching ld.. lolz.. d world had turned upside down.. women coach male.. muahaha.. sounds funny.. ..
This is what we call "Emancipation...."

[tommy_bun]

HHB/YY 21-15,19-21, 15-21 ZB/GL
XIE ZB is "coaching" ZB/GL.
many unforced errors from HHB.........
It's quite funny Xie ZB is coaching Zheng/Gao...
Well,Cai Yun was a good coach,his proteges could give a fight to their seniors

[hcpoirot]

Very interesting part where the players become coach even in friendly matches. Cause maybe that will be useful for the players itself when they play in real event. They can think clearly when they play and know what tactic most suitable for them.

[hcpoirot]

Wow!! Like I said LYB really wanted to gain Olympic points as much as possible. Why I said that?

Look at the WD. He didnot had to bring 3 pairs cause with 2 pairs, they already can win all others countries WD.

It means that LYB wanted these 3 pairs to gain points.

From the players list, these probably (about 90%) the players he will choose for Olympic except something drastic happen.

There is still one spot left for XD.

[LazyBuddy]

It seems that Loong team is the 1st team (starters) while Tiger team is the bench team. I believe Loong team will win over the tiger team.

I don't think so.

I think the 2 teams playing, is part for fun, and part for training. They try to balance out the teams, in order to put on a reasonable match. I never think LYB will bench Cai/Fu to start Guo/Xie for an important match point. Same goes for XXF vs. ZN, even though, the difference is very much less significant. :rolleyes:

[LazyBuddy]

Look at the WD. He didnot had to bring 3 pairs cause with 2 pairs, they already can win all others countries WD.

It means that LYB wanted these 3 pairs to gain points.



No really. Their WD players are there, also serve the purpose to backup the possible XD needs, in case fatigue or injuries kicks in. Gao Ling, Zhang Yawen are proven top XD players, while Zhao TT can certainly give her teammate a break, if just to wrap up a point from a less competitive match.

[CLELY]

What's wrong to Huang Sui, is she retired or injured?? But it's not a big deal actually, WD and WS on paper certainly are CHN own. It's entertaining to play some simulation matches as preparation towards one huge championship like INA had made it last April with Tim Rajawali and Harimau.

LI De Quan, how about the final score of that match between Dragon and Tiger team?

[sumbadder]

What's wrong to Huang Sui, is she retired or injured?? But it's not a big deal actually, WD and WS on paper certainly are CHN own. It's entertaining to play some simulation matches as preparation towards one huge championship like INA had made it last April with Tim Rajawali and Harimau.

I read Huang Sui got divorced recently and will be returning to the CHN team. This might explain why if you look at the first phase of World Championship qualification, Huang Sui/Gao Ling were entered into competition.

If this is true, what will happen to ZJW since YW/ZTT have formed a strong partnership and GL will be back with HS supposedly...

[LI De Quan]

Result:

MX:
Loong Team-ZB/GL 2-1(15-21,21-19,21-15) HHB/YY-Tiger Team

MS:
Loong Tean-LD 2-0(21-13,21-18) BCL-Tiger Team

WD:
Loong Team-ZYW/WYL 0-2(14-21,22-24) YW/ZTT-Tiger Team

MD:
Loong Team-XZB/GZD 0-2(10-21,17-21) CAI/FU-Tiger Team

WS:
Loong Team-XXF 0-2(18-21,18-21) ZN-Tiger Team

Winner:Tiger Team!!!!!!!!!!

[LI De Quan]

MX:
Loong Team coach:XZB Tiger Team coach:CY
MS:
Loong Team coach:XXF Tiger Team coach:ZN
WD:
Loong Team coach:GL Tiger Team coach:
MD:
Loong Team coach:ZB Tiger Team coach:
WS:
Loong Team coach:LD Tiger Team coach:BCL

[jermaine]

does anyone have the video? please upload thank you!!!!!!!

[LI De Quan]

some pic's of the match

[tommy_bun]

Result:



WD:
Loong Team-ZYW/WYL 0-2(14-21,22-24) YW/ZTT-Tiger Team



Yessss Yang/Zhao won the,They should do it in singapore SS too

[blessing]

i love dragon's team members' white color wid red stripes Yonex shirt.. cool~

[LazyBuddy]

Result:

MX:
Loong Team-ZB/GL 2-1(15-21,21-19,21-15) HHB/YY-Tiger Team

MS:
Loong Tean-LD 2-0(21-13,21-18) BCL-Tiger Team

WD:
Loong Team-ZYW/WYL 0-2(14-21,22-24) YW/ZTT-Tiger Team

MD:
Loong Team-XZB/GZD 0-2(10-21,17-21) CAI/FU-Tiger Team

WS:
Loong Team-XXF 0-2(18-21,18-21) ZN-Tiger Team

Winner:Tiger Team!!!!!!!!!!


This exactly shows how deep the CHN squad is. If allowed, they might be able to send the 2 teams into the SC, and still see the same 2 teams in the finals. Seriously, with the depth in their WS, WD and MS, they can even make 3 very competitive team, and get all the medals. :eek:

[ctjcad]

This exactly shows how deep the CHN squad is. If allowed, they might be able to send the 2 teams into the SC, and still see the same 2 teams in the finals. Seriously, with the depth in their WS, WD and MS, they can even make 3 very competitive team, and get all the medals. :eek:
:)..and it's not even funny that they have the players coach each other (even MS players coach the WS players and vice versa):p...imagine if they can do that in real competition, then no one(incl. in BC) will "blame" or "accuse" LYB of doing "match fixing" etc2..:rolleyes::p:D;)
Btw, yeah, i too like the new Men's tees...:cool:..the gals need to do the same..;)

[CLELY]

I read Huang Sui got divorced recently and will be returning to the CHN team. This might explain why if you look at the first phase of World Championship qualification, Huang Sui/Gao Ling were entered into competition.

If this is true, what will happen to ZJW since YW/ZTT have formed a strong partnership and GL will be back with HS supposedly...

Is that so? Thanx for your info and LI De Quan to post the result and several pix! Tough competition in simulation match, Tiger won over Dragon with score 3-2.

[flymordecai]

We need videos of this! The new men's shirt is very nice. Anyone got a link to an article or videoclip?

[blessing]

guYs.. i am still in blur blur state.. wat is d objective of china team havin dis competition between dragon n tiger?

[LazyBuddy]

guYs.. i am still in blur blur state.. wat is d objective of china team havin dis competition between dragon n tiger?

Warm up practice while interface with (and entertain) fans. ;)

[double]

divorced??!!

where did you get this info???



I read Huang Sui got divorced recently and will be returning to the CHN team. This might explain why if you look at the first phase of World Championship qualification, Huang Sui/Gao Ling were entered into competition.

If this is true, what will happen to ZJW since YW/ZTT have formed a strong partnership and GL will be back with HS supposedly...

[twobeer]

Anyone Know what racket Lin Dan used in this competetion.. The strings are clearly Kason painted, and when looking at the video the endcap didn't look like AT700 ??

Anyone know what racket/strings he used?

Cheers,
Twobeer

[LI De Quan]

I read Huang Sui got divorced recently and will be returning to the CHN team. This might explain why if you look at the first phase of World Championship qualification, Huang Sui/Gao Ling were entered into competition.

If this is true, what will happen to ZJW since YW/ZTT have formed a strong partnership and GL will be back with HS supposedly...



Can such things be?
Remember that her husband love her very much.
He(王晓军,WANG Xiaojun) come to see HS when she was in Jinjiang.
He's a businessman.

[LI De Quan]

He is concerned in the real estate business.

[Ai Mei]

GO! GO! Bao Chunlai!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Jiayou Bao!!!!

[blessing]

Warm up practice while interface with (and entertain) fans. ;)oIc.. thx vry much~

[Chu Liuxiang]

Can such things be?
Remember that her husband love her very much.
He(王晓军,WANG Xiaojun) come to see HS when she was in Jinjiang.
He's a businessman.

I think what he was trying to say is Huang Sui split up with Gao Ling not divorced with her husband.:D

[hcpoirot]

Hmm, so Huang Shui is marry, I thought she just retired.

If that the case, Gao Ling will pair with ZJW in World Championship.

[robin7]

CHN Sudirman Team 2007

ZHENG Bo/GAO Ling , LIN Dan , XIE Xingfang ,
XIE Zhongbo/GUO Zhendong , ZHANG Yawen/WEI Yili

HE Hanbin/Yu Yang , BAO Chunlai , ZHANG Ning ,
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng , YANG Wei/ZHAO Tingting

This is what I read from Sohu:

中国队名单 (China Squad)

　　男单：林丹、鲍春来、陈金 (LD, BCL, CJ)
　　女单：张宁、谢杏芳、朱琳 (ZN, XXF, ZL)
　　男双：蔡赟/付海峰、谢中博/郭振东 (CY/FHF, XZB/GZD)
　　女双：高崚/张洁雯、杨维/赵婷婷、魏轶力/张亚雯 (GL/ZJW, YW/ZTT, WYL/ZYW)
　　混双：郑波/高崚、谢中博/张亚雯 (ZB/GL, XZB/ZYW)

Full Story (http://sports.sohu.com/20070530/n250311842.shtml)

[LI De Quan]

This is what I read from Sohu:

中国队名单 (China Squad)

　　男单：林丹、鲍春来、陈金 (LD, BCL, CJ)
　　女单：张宁、谢杏芳、朱琳 (ZN, XXF, ZL)
　　男双：蔡赟/付海峰、谢中博/郭振东 (CY/FHF, XZB/GZD)
　　女双：高崚/张洁雯、杨维/赵婷婷、魏轶力/张亚雯 (GL/ZJW, YW/ZTT, WYL/ZYW)
　　混双：郑波/高崚、谢中博/张亚雯 (ZB/GL, XZB/ZYW)

Full Story (http://sports.sohu.com/20070530/n250311842.shtml)

I have updated already,guy.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44136&page=2

[hcpoirot]

So at last LYB bring 3 WD than 3 MX. But in truth LYB bring 5 WD, Yang Wei can pair with ZJW again and WYL can pair with ZTT again if anything happen with their partner.

China WD pairs are really scary.

Maybe only MD, China didnot had any choice but to play Cai/Fu all time

[cheongsa]

So at last LYB bring 3 WD than 3 MX. But in truth LYB bring 5 WD, Yang Wei can pair with ZJW again and WYL can pair with ZTT again if anything happen with their partner.

Well, which third XD pair would they bring?

Zheng Bo can still play MD with Guo Zhengdong if necessary, and of course Xie Zhongbo partners Guo Zhengdong right now.

If they bring in Zhao Tingting/Zhang Jun, Zhang Jun won't be able to play MD. Same dilemma with Yu Yang/He Hanbin: Yu Yang won't be able to play WD, and He Hanbin won't be able to play MD.

So the current list appears to be the most versatile.

[C L BAO]

I thought I've seen the CHN Sudirman Cup name list.. It's something like that:

LD, BCL, CJ, CY/FHF and some more i cant remember. :D

[C L BAO]

divorced??!!

where did you get this info???


I supposed he got the info from her blog. No, it was totally a misunderstanding. Huang Sui wrote 2 blog posts on her opinion on divorcing. She DID NOT and WILL NOT divorce with Wang Xiao Jun. She says that she has a lovable husband who loves her and yeah, he went to the player training camp to see her, which made her very happy about it.

So, this HS and WXJ divorcing stuff, it's just a misunderstanding. LOL... calm down. :D

[LazyBuddy]

So at last LYB bring 3 WD than 3 MX. But in truth LYB bring 5 WD, Yang Wei can pair with ZJW again and WYL can pair with ZTT again if anything happen with their partner.

China WD pairs are really scary.

Maybe only MD, China didnot had any choice but to play Cai/Fu all time

Actually, they have multiple choices in MXD as well. Zhao TT and Yang Wei are more than capable MXD players, and of course, the scratch pair featuring one of the above lady + Zheng Bo (I believe Zheng Bo and Yang Wei used to play together anyway) could be good enough for weaker opponents, to buy some rest for their teammates.

[saugusli]

China strong for all 5 Sectors.

At lease china will be take 2 points (Women Single and Women Double). But INA Women Double also strong (Vita-Grace).

Another 3 points (MS, XD, MD) china also strong but some countries can take this points is like malaysia and Ina.
For example:
- TH beat LD, LCW beat LD (60%-40%).
- Ina XD beat China XD (60%-40%).
- Malaysia MD beat China MD (60%-40%)
- Ina MD beat China MD (50%-50%).

Ina MD can be combination (Hendra Setiawan-Chandra Wijaya, Alvent-Chandra Wijaya, Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan)

Ina XD got 2 strong one (Liliana Natsir/Nova, Vita Marisa/Flandy Limpele).

Malaysia MD got 3 Strong one.


I think so,Zhu Lin and Chen Jin will take part also
For MX,Maybe LYB can pair up Zheng Bo/Zhao TingTing again..

[robin7]

I have updated already,guy.
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44136&page=2

I've already posted when I realised u've actually updated it...
My apology:p fei1 chang2 bao4 qian4:)

[tommy_bun]

So at last LYB bring 3 WD than 3 MX. But in truth LYB bring 5 WD, Yang Wei can pair with ZJW again and WYL can pair with ZTT again if anything happen with their partner.

Actually not only 5 WD but 7 WD.WYL can pair with ZJW again and ZTT can pair with ZYW also,wow so scary ho

[hcpoirot]

Actually not only 5 WD but 7 WD.WYL can pair with ZJW again and ZTT can pair with ZYW also,wow so scary ho

What I meant by 5 WD pair are the pairs that actually had proven by playing lots of tournaments.

Example: WYL/ZTT once reached number 3 in the world.

YW/ZJW is number one and Olympic gold medal.

And of course WYL/ZYW, YW/ZTT and GL/ZJW although a new pairs but already won against all other countries WD pairs. They only lost to each others in tournaments.

[hcpoirot]

China strong for all 5 Sectors.

At lease china will be take 2 points (Women Single and Women Double). But INA Women Double also strong (Vita-Grace).

Another 3 points (MS, XD, MD) china also strong but some countries can take this points is like malaysia and Ina.
For example:
- TH beat LD, LCW beat LD (60%-40%).
- Ina XD beat China XD (60%-40%).
- Malaysia MD beat China MD (60%-40%)
- Ina MD beat China MD (50%-50%).

Ina MD can be combination (Hendra Setiawan-Chandra Wijaya, Alvent-Chandra Wijaya, Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan)

Ina XD got 2 strong one (Liliana Natsir/Nova, Vita Marisa/Flandy Limpele).

Malaysia MD got 3 Strong one.

Like I said again and again, which ever team that had to play China, they already lost 0-2 before the matches started thanks to China WS and WD .

So if we said that XD, MS and MD only 50:50 , (which is very optimistic for the other teams), those teams still had to won 3 tough matches while China only need 1 points from 3 matches.

With relax pressure, China players will be very confidence, meanwhile other teams XD, MD and MS will had lots of pressure and doubtful cause if they lost, practically their team already lost to China.

[Qidong]

Like I said again and again, which ever team that had to play China, they already lost 0-2 before the matches started thanks to China WS and WD .

So if we said that XD, MS and MD only 50:50 , (which is very optimistic for the other teams), those teams still had to won 3 tough matches while China only need 1 points from 3 matches.

With relax pressure, China players will be very confidence, meanwhile other teams XD, MD and MS will had lots of pressure and doubtful cause if they lost, practically their team already lost to China.

Yes, for XD 50:50, it's too optimistic. No team has beaten GL/ZB yet ...

[badMania]

Yes, for XD 50:50, it's too optimistic. No team has beaten GL/ZB yet ...

Err..Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natisir HAVE BEATEN Zheng Bo/Gao Ling in the Singapore Open 2007.

[blessing]

when will have the livecast from astro supersports??

[Kioskla]

Err..Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natisir HAVE BEATEN Zheng Bo/Gao Ling in the Singapore Open 2007.

Umm if i'm not wrong, Gao Ling had injury during that tournament. You can see from WD event that she's WO. And if i'm not wrong, other matches they met, Gao/Zheng can beat Widianto/Lilyana easily. :cool:

[robin7]

Like I said again and again, which ever team that had to play China, they already lost 0-2 before the matches started thanks to China WS and WD .

So if we said that XD, MS and MD only 50:50 , (which is very optimistic for the other teams), those teams still had to won 3 tough matches while China only need 1 points from 3 matches.

With relax pressure, China players will be very confidence, meanwhile other teams XD, MD and MS will had lots of pressure and doubtful cause if they lost, practically their team already lost to China.

It's obvious that CHN is the clear favorite and they are too under lots of pressure.
It takes tremendous effort and luck too for other teams to beat CHN. However, it's not totally impossible and don't forget this is a team event.

[LI De Quan]

press conference:
Reporters from China had an interview with LYB and LD.

[LI De Quan]

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[pjswift]

Umm if i'm not wrong, Gao Ling had injury during that tournament. You can see from WD event that she's WO. And if i'm not wrong, other matches they met, Gao/Zheng can beat Widianto/Lilyana easily. :cool:
Some kind of injury. And she went on to win the IO07 the following week? If she were injured, why didn't she give INA the WO? If she were playing non CHN WD,do you think she would have given the WO? Why can't you have the decency to give non-CHN the credit where credit's due? CHN XD may be strong but also the most unpredictable. In WB06, didn't CHN field the most number of XDs and yet none made the finals? I would be the least sure of CHn XDs if I were you.

[2cents]

Like I said again and again, which ever team that had to play China, they already lost 0-2 before the matches started thanks to China WS and WD .

So if we said that XD, MS and MD only 50:50 , (which is very optimistic for the other teams), those teams still had to won 3 tough matches while China only need 1 points from 3 matches.

With relax pressure, China players will be very confidence, meanwhile other teams XD, MD and MS will had lots of pressure and doubtful cause if they lost, practically their team already lost to China.


So according to your assumption, China's chance for the title is:
(1-0.5*0.5*0.5)*(1-0.5*0.5*0.5) = 76%

[2cents]

Why China sent so many journalists, and even many chefs and cooks with their team?

I thought anywhere, as long as there are people, there are Chinese restaurants. You can find Chinese restaurants at every corner of the world. Only Kings or Queens have chefs travelling with them.

[pjswift]

Why China sent so many journalists, and even many chefs and cooks with their team?

I thought anywhere, as long as there are people, there are Chinese restaurants. You can find Chinese restaurants at every corner of the world. Only Kings or Queens have chefs travelling with them.
It means CHN must win;they are taking no chances of any food poisoning.Besides,UK is so expensive it 's probably cheaper to fly the chefs and cooks in...By the way, 76% chance of CHN winning does not look good.I thought the others would only have a 1% chance! Now this looks like 24%. wow!

[2cents]

It means CHN must win;they are taking no chances of any food poisoning.Besides,UK is so expensive it 's probably cheaper to fly the chefs and cooks in...By the way, 76% chance of CHN winning does not look good.I thought the others would only have a 1% chance! Now this looks like 24%. wow!

76% chance is NOT my conclusion. It is the direct result from hcpoirot's assumption.

I think China should be more than 50% in any event except vs Malaysia mens' double. I don't think they are 100% at Women's single either. On Mixed double, ZB/GL have 100% against other team except Indo in which they have 80% (won 4 times and lost 1 time)

[2cents]

Anybody knows how much money the local organization needs to pay the IBF to host Sudirman cup?

I'm wondering the business model for Sudirman cup. From the poor press conference in the picture. It doesn't seem to be well organized and the cash flow also seems to be a problem.

[2cents]

Badminton, as a profession to the players, and as an industry to the association, should be a revenue machine for the people participate in.

But from all the information here, China spent huge amount of money to gain nothing but empty "glories". So it is well explained that only China, the communist country, could win this cup. On another word, IBF runs on communist funds. If everything were money driven, like fully capitalism, then IBF and Sudirman cup would be dead already.

[hcpoirot]

So according to your assumption, China's chance for the title is:
(1-0.5*0.5*0.5)*(1-0.5*0.5*0.5) = 76%

My assumption is in very optimistic side of other teams favor.

Cause if my assumption is realistic.

MS: Lin Dan had at least 57-43 against any other team MS except Taufik.

LD VS Taufik 53-47


MD: Cai/Fu also had at least 55-45 against any other teams MD except TBH/KKK

Cai/Fu VS TBH/KKK is 50:50

XD: Gao/ZB had 90-10 against Malaysia XD
Gao/ZB had 60-40 against Denmark XD
Gao/ZB had 57-43 against England, Thai, Korea pairs.
Gao/ZB had 55-45 against Indonesia pairs.


So China chances is pretty good. About 80% something before the match started.

But If their XD won at first matches, the chances become 100% won!
Even when their XD lost, their chances still very high. Cause if their MS won, the chances again become 100% win.

Even when their MS lost, their MD still had better chances against any other MD except for Malaysia MD.

But against Malaysia, at least China will win 3 point from XD, WS and WD. So before the match started, China VS Malaysia is already 3-0 if China players play as usual.

[hcpoirot]

Okay, here is my prediction China against any other team even before the play start.

Note here: Although China WS and WD is not 100% yet against any other teams players, but with the amazingly players in their WS and WD , LYB will easily rotate the players so the players would not tired at all.

Example: ZN play at Monday, XXF play at Tuesday, ZN play Wednesday, XXF play SF than ZN play the final.

If Malaysia reach final, WMC already had to play 5 times including the final. She will be a little tired, meanwhile XXF or ZN will be very fresh waiting in final.

The same also for WD.

For MD and XD, LYB probably play Cai/FU and Gao/ZB except when they meet very weak team.

For MS, BCL and CJ probably play in group matches but LD will surely play SF and Final.

[hcpoirot]

So here is the score before the match even started:

China- Malaysia : 3-0 (from XD, WS and WD)
China-Thailand : 3-0 (From MD, WS and WD)
China -England) : 4-0 (From WS, MS, MD and WD)


China - Hong KOng (it extremely impossible) : 4-0 (From MS, MD, XD and WD)

China- Denmark : 3-0 (From XD, WS and WD)

China- Korea : 3-0 ( From MS, WS and WD)

China- Indonesia : 2-0 (I am very optimistic here for Indonesia team :D) From WS and WD.

So even before the matches started, China already had the matches in their side if China players play as usual. (not any injury or other reason)

Maybe just maybe only Indonesia team had the biggest chances (About 20%) compare to other team to challenge China this year.

[OneToughBirdie]

So here is the score before the match even started:

China- Malaysia : 3-0 (from XD, WS and WD)
China-Thailand : 3-0 (From MD, WS and WD)
China -England) : 4-0 (From WS, MS, MD and WD)


China - Hong KOng (it extremely impossible) : 4-0 (From MS, MD, XD and WD)

China- Denmark : 3-0 (From XD, WS and WD)

China- Korea : 3-0 ( From MS, WS and WD)

China- Indonesia : 2-0 (I am very optimistic here for Indonesia team :D) From WS and WD.

So even before the matches started, China already had the matches in their side if China players play as usual. (not any injury or other reason)

Maybe just maybe only Indonesia team had the biggest chances (About 20%) compare to other team to challenge China this year.

That looks bleak and hopeless for the rest of the world, sad but realistic outcome of Sudirman Cup...maybe we should just ship the cup to CHN or make it the rest of the world vrs CHN...hahaha! LOL!!!:rolleyes::p

[ctjcad]

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Why China sent so many journalists, and even many chefs and cooks with their team?

I thought anywhere, as long as there are people, there are Chinese restaurants. You can find Chinese restaurants at every corner of the world. Only Kings or Queens have chefs travelling with them.

It means CHN must win;they are taking no chances of any food poisoning.Besides,UK is so expensive it 's probably cheaper to fly the chefs and cooks in...
..wow, sure looks like they came in prepared with all the in-house chefs/cooks and "homemade" meals...Btw, aren't they the "Kings and Queens of the badminton world"?!?!..;):):cool:
I think it's partly both, they want to save a bit of cost as well as to have the players well fed with familiar foods...;)

[Cannot_smash]

That looks bleak and hopeless for the rest of the world, sad but realistic outcome of Sudirman Cup...maybe we should just ship the cup to CHN or make it the rest of the world vrs CHN...hahaha! LOL!!!:rolleyes::p


LOL, I remember reading a thread discussing about this before :D:cool::p

[Chu Liuxiang]

That looks bleak and hopeless for the rest of the world, sad but realistic outcome of Sudirman Cup...maybe we should just ship the cup to CHN or make it the rest of the world vrs CHN...hahaha! LOL!!!:rolleyes::p

There won't be any difference in the end results even if the rest of the world versus China in Sudirman Cup. As China is just too strong in WD, WS, XD and MS.

If the rest of the world ( or just South East Asia Team) versus China in Thomas Cup, then, it is 50% : 50%.

[ctjcad]

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