who will be the Sudirman Cup 2007 runner-up?

[kwun]

so who do you think will come 2nd in the Sudirman Cup final?

NOTE: as China is pretty much poised to win the Sudirman Cup again this year. it will be uninteresting to poll for who will win. instead, the 2nd place is more interesting.

however, i will left the choice for China to be number 2. if you choose China, let us know who you think will win the Sudirman Cup.

[Linus]

I will go for Korea as runner-up.

I think Korea will top Group 1B by beating Indonesia in WS, WD and XD.
They will then beat Malaysia in the Semi by taking again the WS, WD and XD.
But it would be a white wash when they play China in the final.

China is way too balance in all disciplines to lose in this competition format.

[tjl_vanguard]

i think somehow MAS has the edge over Korea.. :D

[nwy5633]

if they perform as usual..
then malaysia will be in final..
tat mean..
LCW must be atleast as gud as the 07 IO..
KOO/TAN muz keep a clean sweep on MD point..
WMC is juz like the normal 1 , can beat a better player anytime..
the WD & XD i think there will be no differences..
if they wan to win the cup..
then these should be the key..
KOO/TAN really take a clean sweep..
LCW is in his top form..
WMC still need to be as usual or better..
here is the important key..
our XD, maybe rexy got some surprise for us with his choices..
if TAN/WOON really tat potential as rexy said..
then the Sudirman Cup may come back with them..
anyway they muz get pass the group challange 1st..
if they can get a easy semis entry with 3-0 or 3-1 win in the group match..
ofcourse not china lar..
they muz be putting WCH when group match vs CHN..
hahaha..
i think MAS really got a better chances to be in final..
MALAYSIA BOLEH!

[PlayaFromMalaya]

not even gonna decide on this..still cant forget that stunned look on my fathers face when malaysia lost to korea in thomas cup..

[amaze]

if they perform as usual..
then malaysia will be in final..
tat mean..
LCW must be atleast as gud as the 07 IO..
KOO/TAN muz keep a clean sweep on MD point..
WMC is juz like the normal 1 , can beat a better player anytime..
the WD & XD i think there will be no differences..
if they wan to win the cup..
then these should be the key..
KOO/TAN really take a clean sweep..
LCW is in his top form..
WMC still need to be as usual or better..
here is the important key..
our XD, maybe rexy got some surprise for us with his choices..
if TAN/WOON really tat potential as rexy said..
then the Sudirman Cup may come back with them..
anyway they muz get pass the group challange 1st..
if they can get a easy semis entry with 3-0 or 3-1 win in the group match..
ofcourse not china lar..
they muz be putting WCH when group match vs CHN..
hahaha..
i think MAS really got a better chances to be in final..
MALAYSIA BOLEH!

wow ! Tough call.... considering we're bringing even less players than two years ago

[blessing]

i trust malaysia!~

[s1nn3r]

I also trust msia but I dun beliv they can win

[X Ball]

U wimps .....of course China will be second !

[2cents]

I vote for Malaysia.

Not because Malaysia is better, but because they have the perfect draw.

Assume China beats every country, and Malaysia, Korea, Denmark, and Indonesia are at the same level, which means it's simply 50%-50% between any two of Malaysia, Korea, Denmark, and Indonesia, then Malaysia only needs one win to claim the runner up position. So the chances for each are:

Malaysia: 50%
Indonesia: 16%
Korea: 16%
Denmark: 16%

Being grouped with China, Malaysia successfully avoid China in the elimination round which equivalent to the winner position of the other group, which Indonesia, Korea and Denmark have 1/3 chance to get it. That's the simple reason Malaysia's chance equals 3 times of the other teams.

[tommy_bun]

Korea will the the runner-up cos they have strong WD,MD,MX and maybe Hwang HY will create some upsets

[OneToughBirdie]

not even gonna decide on this..still cant forget that stunned look on my fathers face when malaysia lost to korea in thomas cup..
I thought MAS lost to DEN in TC06 SF...partly because WCH was injured...but beat KOR in QF.
I surmise MAS will be 2nd but then again anything can happen and MAS can lose too but also can beat CHN if MAS take MS and MD, and if Miss Wong can stand on her head and create an upset. Still CHN #1 and MAS #2 hoping for a small miracle to beat CHN...that is my take.

[Dreamzz]

hahaha, i voted with my heart and not my head again. oh well, how surprising! it'll be quite a feat to get to the final, LCW and WMC have to do well ....

and yeah, MAS lost to DEN in the TC, not KOR. and yeah, i blame KBH for the loss!
:)

[madbad]

Per my earlier predictions:
SF:CHN over INA and MAS over KOR
FINAL: CHN over MAS

Runner-up = MAS

[hcpoirot]

Tough to call. Had to see at least group prelim first.

[chibe_K]

I added one vote for Korea simply because they always thrive at 7-stars tournaments, especially when its team-oriented.

[tjl_vanguard]

Per my earlier predictions:
SF:CHN over INA and MAS over KOR
FINAL: CHN over MAS

Runner-up = MAS
coming up with an equation to support your point there i see hahahah :D :D :D :D :D

[tjl_vanguard]

apparently, MAS has the highest vote for being runner-up.. nil goes to HKG and ENG... haha :D

[PlayaFromMalaya]

I thought MAS lost to DEN in TC06 SF...partly because WCH was injured...but beat KOR in QF.
I surmise MAS will be 2nd but then again anything can happen and MAS can lose too but also can beat CHN if MAS take MS and MD, and if Miss Wong can stand on her head and create an upset. Still CHN #1 and MAS #2 hoping for a small miracle to beat CHN...that is my take.


my bad..MAS lost to denmark..and then to korea in asian games..not gonna pu my hopes up..

[Linus]

U wimps .....of course China will be second !
Wow, this one goes where his heart is! Bravo!:p

[madbad]

Wow, this one goes where his heart is! Bravo!:p

Well, apparently he's not the only one as China currently has 6 runner-up votes. Go figure :confused::confused:

[CLELY]

INA as underdog team like 2 years ago event will make surprise as second best in Glasgow. Big question mark that INA is capable to defeat CHN at finale scenario despite grab the SC is prime goal for PBSI this year. We'll see whether the target is well done or not! The first challenge against KOR will decide INA super-heavy step en route to final.

[tjl_vanguard]

haha MAS seems to have the most votes as runner-up!!! :D

[PlayaFromMalaya]

haha MAS seems to have the most votes as runner-up!!! :D


malaysia boleh! :)

[madbad]

I reckon all 11 China runner up votes must have come from die-hard Malaysia fans, haha :D:D Either that or X-Ball hacked the system and voted 11 times :D:D

[chapree]

malaysia boleh! :)

kalau Malaysia Boleh, let's take the championship then :D

[PlayaFromMalaya]

malaysia boleh as runner up =.="

[chapree]

malaysia boleh as runner up =.="

hahaha, tak berapa boleh la tu then...
joking joking, no hard feelings yah :D

[blessing]

loLz.. China is too strong.. can say it is unbeatable.. i have to force myself to admit that although i'm die-hard fans for mas.. i'll be happy enouf if mas emerge as 1st runner up

[juste_millieu]

obviously most of u all here are M'sian :p
I think MAS should consider obtain a good result if MAS can b in the semi-final

[vellin]

Of course Malaysia.. Malaysia has KKK/TBH.
Hope they can perform well.
Malaysia boleh..:D

[X Ball]

I reckon all 11 China runner up votes must have come from die-hard Malaysia fans, haha :D:D Either that or X-Ball hacked the system and voted 11 times :D:D


I tried to but it seemed like it was harder to do than you guys admitting that LCW would be the winner of the World Championship !:D

[syusuke ika]

loLz.. China is too strong.. can say it is unbeatable.. i have to force myself to admit that although i'm die-hard fans for mas.. i'll be happy enouf if mas emerge as 1st runner up


owh yea ???unbeatable??too strong ??..i dun't think so...soundx funny..:D..hw strong CHN is ..we still can beat them .........go2 Malaysia !~~da~~ i think 2nd place goes to INA ..HOHO...INA BEAT CHN in semi final ..n MAS BEAT KOR in semi final nn final >> Mas BEAT Ina ..tats ma thought~

[kidosetiawan]

well if INA beats China they won't lose the final.....

I mean anyone who beats China will win it and I hope it would be INA.....go INA

[Misty100]

MAS will be the bridesmaid for the 1st time in SC history. I am sure BAM will be happy with that. I know i would. :)

[z3048018]

i think CHN is pretty hard to beat in team events so MAS runners-up

[taufik-ist]

The Final Will Be China Vs Indonesia....

The Runner Up Goes To............. Wait Till The Final Ends :)

[wizzy]

Yeah.. the winner is ... INA... :))

[blessing]

owh yea ???unbeatable??too strong ??..i dun't think so...soundx funny..:D..hw strong CHN is ..we still can beat them .........go2 Malaysia !~~da~~ i think 2nd place goes to INA ..HOHO...INA BEAT CHN in semi final ..n MAS BEAT KOR in semi final nn final >> Mas BEAT Ina ..tats ma thought~individual events china might not so strong.. but team event can say they are very strong lor.. n it is a MIXED team.. will b stronger..

[tommy_bun]

owh yea ???unbeatable??too strong ??..i dun't think so...soundx funny..:D..hw strong CHN is ..we still can beat them .........go2 Malaysia !~~da~~ i think 2nd place goes to INA ..HOHO...INA BEAT CHN in semi final ..n MAS BEAT KOR in semi final nn final >> Mas BEAT Ina ..tats ma thought~
The final will be China vs Korea

[bananaboy]

China as this year's Sudirman Cup's runner-up... what the hell is wrong with people these days... going insane or something?:p:eek::eek::eek: Unless the entire team China withdraw from the final, or it ain't happening.

With the ladies' events pretty much 90+% in the bag of China... Gao Ling/Zheng Bo for mixed, Lin Dan for MS, Fu/Cai for MD, what's the chance of any country taking all 3 MS, MD, and (especially) XD away from China. :confused:

[hcpoirot]

China squad probably only had weakness mental in individual Asian and Olympic medals.

For team event, they are unbeatable with this squad. In singles BCL, XXF and ZN never lost since 2004 Thomas and Uber Cup and Sudirman Cup.

LD never lost in any team event matches since 2002 Thomas Cup although his team lost that year.

In WD, the only pair lost is in Uber Cup 2004 when Yang wei/ ZJW play Korea girls.

In XD, Gao Ling had new younger and more fresh partner ZB. ZB also play well in team event in Thomas Cup 2004.

In MD, Cai/Fu only lost once against JE/MLH in Thomas Cup 2004. Since then never lost in any team event including Sudirman Cup.

[hcpoirot]

The only reason why Chinese squad play so well in team event is only one reason, all of their team mates are very strong. They did not had any weakness in any team events except for second men doubles in thomas Cup.

Thats why when they play in team events, they can play with less pressure and stress than any other team players. Cause they know, if they lost, their team mates can cover for them and win the matches.


And it will be very different for other teams.

Example: Indonesia, Malaysia and Denmark. If these team met China, their MS simply cannot lost.

If Taufik, LCW or Peter Gade lost against LD or BCL, these teams already lost cause China WS and WD will had 2 points already.

So the pressure and stress level for all other teams when they met China specially MS, MD and MX will triple. Meanwhile China players just play as usual. Stress players tend to made lots of unforced errors and in 21 scores, lots of unforced errors mean you will lose quickly.

[Lawho2030]

If you ask me who's the runnerup China is the best. Malaysia isthe best all the youngster have the fighting sprite with them BOLEH

[shyeling]

Two days before, i heard a news. It is about Li Yongbo's comment on 07 Sudirman Cup..
He said, M'sia is nothing because we are very weak in the event which involve women player..

Really disappointed to heard this kind of comment because we should all respect our opponent even thier level is lower than us.. More than that is, Li as a chief coach...

I think all will agree that china really too strong for any country to beat, but pls don't said that M'sia is nothing as many people think that M'sia has a good chance to be a runner-up.. M'sia was in group 2 in previous edition of sudirman cup, but M'sia are able to place ourselves in group 1.. So, sure M'sia have some strength to make it into group 1..
Pls remember that sometimes m'sia also able to do something good..

[Han]

If team Malaysia is as strong as China and have won as many titles as China then I am sure Yap Kim Hock would have said the same thing, sounds sarcastic but it's the confident and expectation that Li Yongbo has on his team! We may dislike coach Li but we can't deny validity of his comments.
Malaysia has a good draw and hopefully we can retain and stay in Group A, advancing to the SF as the target is achievable but I will have to actually see it to believe, failed too many times before makes me a bit sceptical. We are really not that strong compare to other teams in the same group, except China, and the only slight advantage we have is the MD.
We will find out in just 2 weeks time and hopefuly our team Malaysia really BOLEH!




Two days before, i heard a news. It is about Li Yongbo's comment on 07 Sudirman Cup..
He said, M'sia is nothing because we are very weak in the event which involve women player..

Really disappointed to heard this kind of comment because we should all respect our opponent even thier level is lower than us.. More than that is, Li as a chief coach...

I think all will agree that china really too strong for any country to beat, but pls don't said that M'sia is nothing as many people think that M'sia has a good chance to be a runner-up.. M'sia was in group 2 in previous edition of sudirman cup, but M'sia are able to place ourselves in group 1.. So, sure M'sia have some strength to make it into group 1..
Pls remember that sometimes m'sia also able to do something good..

[kyo_cloud]

Ina just will get runer-up title.........


n last score 3-1 to china

[jasonmarc]

China have 2 points in hand before any battle in Sudirman Cup, they would just have to fight in MS or MD, and XD for one point.....their WS and WD is untouchable....so Champion is definately for CHN. As for MAS,.. this is the first year to compete in group 1,....SF is considered good,...provided they perform outstanding....may be they have a chance to be in Final,.....but i still vote for INA for the runner up position as they have TH, Candra,.....and good XD compared to MAS,..as for KOR still dont know about their MD...XD...whether LYD will be playing or not...WS, MS are their weakest link in the team...they may have problems playing with DEN...

[kyo_cloud]

China have 2 points in hand before any battle in Sudirman Cup, they would just have to fight in MS or MD, and XD for one point.....their WS and WD is untouchable....so Champion is definately for CHN. As for MAS,.. this is the first year to compete in group 1,....SF is considered good,...provided they perform outstanding....may be they have a chance to be in Final,.....but i still vote for INA for the runner up position as they have TH, Candra,.....and good XD compared to MAS,..as for KOR still dont know about their MD...XD...whether LYD will be playing or not...WS, MS are their weakest link in the team...they may have problems playing with DEN...

I like your opini!!!

[zqloy]

In MD, Cai/Fu only lost once against JE/MLH in Thomas Cup 2004. Since then never lost in any team event including Sudirman Cup.

Wrong. I believe they lost to Markis/Hendra b4 during AG team event. :cool:

[ahsen]

MAS will be runner up... personally i think LCW, TBH/KKK can gv MAS 2 points against any team if they play up to their standard... and the 3rd point will be from WMC.....

HOWEVER, i really hope that MAS can win the CUP..lol...its a dream,,, but achievable dream..i suppose..... our mixed double could gv surprisessss........ furthermore, CHINA's mixed double is not that consistent after all based on the last few SUPER SERIES performances.....lol....

[Chu Liuxiang]

MAS will be runner up... personally i think LCW, TBH/KKK can gv MAS 2 points against any team if they play up to their standard... and the 3rd point will be from WMC.....

HOWEVER, i really hope that MAS can win the CUP..lol...its a dream,,, but achievable dream..i suppose..... our mixed double could gv surprisessss........ furthermore, CHINA's mixed double is not that consistent after all based on the last few SUPER SERIES performances.....lol....

I think LCW stand a 50% chances against Peter Gade and Taufik Hidayat and this is the most optimistic comments that I can give to LCW, and it is partly due to his 2007 Indonesia Open MS Champion. And if MAS against any team including China with Lin Dan as MS, I would only give LCW 49% chance the most against LD. So, I personally don't think that 1 point from LCW against any team is for sure. It is still very much unknown. In fact, if Malaysia against Indonesia, I think WMC chances of getting one WS point for Malaysia is much higher than LCW. Even CEH/WPT stand higher chances against the Denmark or Indonesia WD comparing to LCW.:D

[tommy_bun]

In MD, Cai/Fu only lost once against JE/MLH in Thomas Cup 2004. Since then never lost in any team event including Sudirman Cup.

Fu/Cai lost to lars paaske/Jonas Rasmussen not to JE/MLH.They also lost to kido/hendra in AG 2006

[hcpoirot]

Fu/Cai lost to lars paaske/Jonas Rasmussen not to JE/MLH.They also lost to kido/hendra in AG 2006

Sorry, my mistake.

Cai/Fu lost twice in 17 matches for team event is not bad at all. Cai/Fu play 10 times in Thomas Cup, 4 times in asia Games and 3 times in Sudirman Cup.

So their winning ratio is 88%.

LD and ZN got 100% ratio. Not to mention Gao Ling only lost once in mixed doubles and never lost in WD.

[angelatby]

Hey, i think Indonesia stands quite higher chance also, there are so many good players, veteran and new players coming up, why everyone only focus on Korea & Malaysia. :cool::cool: Mr.Kwun, can i vote twice or not, i will take Indonesia first then only Malaysia, X-Ball dont kick me up :p

[Han]

I vote for Malaysia for runner-up even though I doubt they can deliver as this is the first time these group of players are put into this situation. I am happy if Malaysia can get into Semi Final, anything beyond is a bonus :cool:

[nugroho]

Lee Yong Dae won't be able for SC.... :S so i think indonesia could end up topping their group... they should face malaysia as the runner-up of their group...

in this point indo and malay has the same... as malaysia has advatage in MD and WS and indo has joker in MS and WD so it could be 3 vs 2 either way

[taufik-ist]

MAS will be runner up... personally i think LCW, TBH/KKK can gv MAS 2 points against any team if they play up to their standard... and the 3rd point will be from WMC.....

HOWEVER, i really hope that MAS can win the CUP..lol...its a dream,,, but achievable dream..i suppose..... our mixed double could gv surprisessss........ furthermore, CHINA's mixed double is not that consistent after all based on the last few SUPER SERIES performances.....lol....

big presseure on TBH/KKK, if they lose.... malaysia will collapse :)

thailand will give malaysia a hard time... malaysia must work hard... becos if they lose... they won't qualify to semis

[pjswift]

Two days before, i heard a news. It is about Li Yongbo's comment on 07 Sudirman Cup..
He said, M'sia is nothing because we are very weak in the event which involve women player..

Really disappointed to heard this kind of comment because we should all respect our opponent even thier level is lower than us.. More than that is, Li as a chief coach...

I think all will agree that china really too strong for any country to beat, but pls don't said that M'sia is nothing as many people think that M'sia has a good chance to be a runner-up.. M'sia was in group 2 in previous edition of sudirman cup, but M'sia are able to place ourselves in group 1.. So, sure M'sia have some strength to make it into group 1..
Pls remember that sometimes m'sia also able to do something good..
When has LYB been known to respect anybody?
But I would be delighted with such comments because LYB has a habit of giving back-handed compliments. In trying to dampen MAS confidence, he's also highlighting MAS strength.Simple Maths suggest MAS can gift CHN the WS and WD and still win by taking the MS, MD and XD. That is possible and that's why LYB is having nightmares.(He also has to worry about INA) That is also why he needs to send the full entourage, twice the size of the MAS contingent.That's a sign of insecurity. LYB will be the laughing stock if CHN cannot win the SC with the full A team!

[zqloy]

LD and ZN got 100% ratio. Not to mention Gao Ling only lost once in mixed doubles and never lost in WD.

Not really 100%. LD lost to LHI during AG team event. :cool:

[Joyous]

[quote=shyeling;587486]Two days before, i heard a news. It is about Li Yongbo's comment on 07 Sudirman Cup..
He said, M'sia is nothing because we are very weak in the event which involve women player..

Really disappointed to heard this kind of comment because we should all respect our opponent even thier level is lower than us.. More than that is, Li as a chief coach...

LYB ?? Maybe the 'gift of the gab' is not in him, wrong choice of words or psychological ploy as can be seen in many coaches; soccer & basketball alike. The important thing is not to let it affect the players in the entirety of the tournament.

[Jessica]

When has LYB been known to respect anybody?
But I would be delighted with such comments because LYB has a habit of giving back-handed compliments. In trying to dampen MAS confidence, he's also highlighting MAS strength.Simple Maths suggest MAS can gift CHN the WS and WD and still win by taking the MS, MD and XD. That is possible and that's why LYB is having nightmares.(He also has to worry about INA) That is also why he needs to send the full entourage, twice the size of the MAS contingent.That's a sign of insecurity. LYB will be the laughing stock if CHN cannot win the SC with the full A team!
Fully agree with your comment.Actually although there are almost 99% China will retain their title but anything is possible.As LYB said, china badminton team still having many enemy and other countries are still able to fight with them unlike the china table tennis team which are fully dominating the world.The china table tennis team had just won all the good medals and silver medals in the world championship recently.They are too strong but china badminton team still have some problem and enemy in other country.I just hope Mas team can fight with all their weapons.Even if they lose ,i hope they lose with full of pride.Good luck to all the country in the coming Sudirman Cup.

[tjl_vanguard]

haha who voted CHN to be runner-up?? they stand a chance to be runners-up?? :D

[jasonmarc]

Lee Yong Dae won't be able for SC.... :S so i think indonesia could end up topping their group... they should face malaysia as the runner-up of their group...

in this point indo and malay has the same... as malaysia has advatage in MD and WS and indo has joker in MS and WD so it could be 3 vs 2 either way



I concur, but only i think INdon has their joker in MS and XD not WD!!;) cause MAS is weak in XD compared to Indon. As for WD i ll rate it even 50:50:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[taufik-ist]

I concur, but only i think INdon has their joker in MS and XD not WD!!;) cause MAS is weak in XD compared to Indon. As for WD i ll rate it even 50:50:rolleyes::rolleyes:

tH vs lcw = 55:45
mk/hs vs tbh/kk = 40 :60
ina wd vs mas wd = 50 : 50
ina ws vs mas ws = 45 : 55
ina xd vs mas xd = 60 : 40 or 55:45 ( if kkk/wpt play)

[Han]

You're assuming Taufik can beat Chong Wei which I am quite doubtful with Taufik's current form. Anyway, it's a good problem if both player meet one another, at least we know both are in semi final :D


Lee Yong Dae won't be able for SC.... :S so i think indonesia could end up topping their group... they should face malaysia as the runner-up of their group...

in this point indo and malay has the same... as malaysia has advatage in MD and WS and indo has joker in MS and WD so it could be 3 vs 2 either way

[tjl_vanguard]

tH vs lcw = 55:45
mk/hs vs tbh/kk = 40 :60
ina wd vs mas wd = 50 : 50
ina ws vs mas ws = 45 : 55
ina xd vs mas xd = 60 : 40 or 55:45 ( if kkk/wpt play)
owh well.. i dun think it'll even be 60:40.. the match is between tan wee kiong/woon khe wei vs nova/lilyana.... :D

[syusuke ika]

individual events china might not so strong.. but team event can say they are very strong lor.. n it is a MIXED team.. will b stronger..

heiya...ok2.....i knoe china is STRONG N ..wat evalah ....but,Fo' me la,MaS is stronger ...although Mas IS "WEAK" IN WOMAN EVENTS ..but, i trust MAS ....haha ..dun't want to argue~ :p

p/s :so sorry fo those who think i'm rebelliouzx

[syusuke ika]

tH vs lcw = 55:45
mk/hs vs tbh/kk = 40 :60
ina wd vs mas wd = 50 : 50
ina ws vs mas ws = 45 : 55
ina xd vs mas xd = 60 : 40 or 55:45 ( if kkk/wpt play)

huhu ....

th vs lcw = 50,50 (they r best fren,mayb th will give lcw chance or lcw will give th chance ..hohooho)silly me!!
mk/hs vstbh/kk =60,40
ina vs mas wd =60,40
ina vs mas ws =40,60
ina xd vs mas xd = 50,50 .........

mayb the result will be 3:2 .......

[saugusli]

Hi,

th vs lcw = 70,30
mk/hs vstbh/kk =30,70
ina vs mas wd =60,40
ina vs mas ws =50,50
ina xd vs mas xd = 60,40

And Ina will be beat malaysia...hhhaaa


huhu ....

th vs lcw = 50,50 (they r best fren,mayb th will give lcw chance or lcw will give th chance ..hohooho)silly me!!
mk/hs vstbh/kk =60,40
ina vs mas wd =60,40
ina vs mas ws =40,60
ina xd vs mas xd = 50,50 .........

mayb the result will be 3:2 .......

[jasonmarc]

Wow, DEN rank 2nd seed, but they only got 5.80% of votes as runner-up! ???
or may be most of the fans think DEN will be the Champion of this Sudirman Cup.........or no body think they will be able to beat INDON and KOR in group 1B....... What U all thinking.....pls share

[taufik-ist]

Wow, DEN rank 2nd seed, but they only got 5.80% of votes as runner-up! ???
or may be most of the fans think DEN will be the Champion of this Sudirman Cup.........or no body think they will be able to beat INDON and KOR in group 1B....... What U all thinking.....pls share

th vs PG = 50:50
MK/HS vs ML/J? = 55:45
ina ws vs denmark ws = 45:55
ina wd vs denmark wd = 55:45
ina xd vs denmark xd = 55:45

th/sony vs any korea ms = 55:45
MK/HS vs kor md = 50:50
ina ws vs kor ws = 45:55
ina wd vs kor wd = 45:55
ina xd vs kor xd = 55:45

[tommy_bun]

Greysia said that korean WD (lee/lee) is not special they just have more stamina and have strong smashes

[Han]

Greysia said that korean WD (lee/lee) is not special they just have more stamina and have strong smashes

And that 2 criteria should already made the Korean WD special, don't you think so?

[LI De Quan]

anyone know danmark's list?
thanks.

[jasonmarc]

th vs PG = 50:50
MK/HS vs ML/J? = 55:45
ina ws vs denmark ws = 45:55
ina wd vs denmark wd = 55:45
ina xd vs denmark xd = 55:45

th/sony vs any korea ms = 55:45
MK/HS vs kor md = 50:50
ina ws vs kor ws = 45:55
ina wd vs kor wd = 45:55
ina xd vs kor xd = 55:45

Yes, i can see that DEN is actually quite even compared to KOR...but seem like every one here didnt choose DEN..to be runner up ...but they chosen KOR...:o maybe event could spare some tot...

[robin7]

I predict CHN 1st, MAS 2nd and INA 3rd.

But I want MAS to win by beating CHN 3:2 in the final...haha.......

[saugusli]

Hi..hhaa

China will beat Malaysia: 5:0 or 4:1... 3:2 impossible... and

Malaysia beat China is very very very impossible....hhhaaa..You only dream...

INA meet malaysia, so Ina will beat Malaysia easier....hhhaaa




I predict CHN 1st, MAS 2nd and INA 3rd.

But I want MAS to win by beating CHN 3:2 in the final...haha.......

[tommy_bun]

And that 2 criteria should already made the Korean WD special, don't you think so?

Yup..I agree with u

[ronk]

I vote for Malaysia.

Not because Malaysia is better, but because they have the perfect draw.

Assume China beats every country, and Malaysia, Korea, Denmark, and Indonesia are at the same level, which means it's simply 50%-50% between any two of Malaysia, Korea, Denmark, and Indonesia, then Malaysia only needs one win to claim the runner up position. So the chances for each are:

Malaysia: 50%
Indonesia: 16%
Korea: 16%
Denmark: 16%

Being grouped with China, Malaysia successfully avoid China in the elimination round which equivalent to the winner position of the other group, which Indonesia, Korea and Denmark have 1/3 chance to get it. That's the simple reason Malaysia's chance equals 3 times of the other teams.


This analysis makes the most sense. MAS has a good chance (90%) of making it into the semifinals and close to a 50-50 chance of winning the semi-final match (depending on opponent). The draw favors MAS as IN, KO, and DE will have to fight it out for a place in the semifinals. The team that tops the group will avoid playing China and has about a 50-50% with MAS (this will depend of which team tops the group). The second ranked team from that group will probably loose to China.

[tjl_vanguard]

I predict CHN 1st, MAS 2nd and INA 3rd.

But I want MAS to win by beating CHN 3:2 in the final...haha.......
3:2??? nah.. impossible cuz MAS is gonna win 5:0in my dreams.... :D

[robin7]

3:2??? nah.. impossible cuz MAS is gonna win 5:0in my dreams.... :D

Yeah, that will be exciting....then Malaysia will be declared HOLIDAY!

[Lawho2030]

I hope that Ind or mas can win so that li yong bo can eat his words

[blessing]

Yeah, that will be exciting....then Malaysia will be declared HOLIDAY!yaya... hope that MAS will WIN.. not in Sudirman Cup.. but to win as much as in Olympic as well.. so that MAS government will give us a day holiday as a sign of thankful to the atheletes.. God.. coaches.. n most important.. WE..the supporters.. muahahhahahhaha... :D:D:D:D:D:D

[robin7]

Hi,

th vs lcw = 70,30
mk/hs vstbh/kk =30,70
ina vs mas wd =60,40
ina vs mas ws =50,50
ina xd vs mas xd = 60,40

And Ina will be beat malaysia...hhhaaa

Can INA make it to the SF?
If NO, how can INA beat MAS?
Muahaha.......:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[saugusli]

Is only you said no.

So I also can say.

Can Malaysaia make it to SF?
If No, how can Malaysia beat Ina?


Can INA make it to the SF?
If NO, how can INA beat MAS?
Muahaha.......:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[saugusli]

Yes. Agree. Hope Malaysia and Ina going to final. Boring see always China and China.

Agree, LYB is very proud.


I hope that Ind or mas can win so that li yong bo can eat his words

[ahsen]

3:2??? nah.. impossible cuz MAS is gonna win 5:0in my dreams.... :D


Yeah....totally agree with you...:D:D:D:D:D

[LI De Quan]

Indonesia , maybe

[pauline]

I voted for Korea.....coz they always do well in team event...

[huangkwokhau]

Indonesia has a better chance to be runner up than MAS....MAS is strong 10% on MD but WS...INA girls are improving in the last 2 months...for WD..INA will have better edge now than MAS WD....I think INA will beat MA 4-1...

For against CHINA??? tough...if INA loses 2-3 to China, it is considered very good...otherwise China will beat INA 5-0 or 4-1 the most...

[huangkwokhau]

another factor to be considered that it plays in Scotland....so weather can affect all asian players , notably like INA, MAS or Thai.....China, Japan and korean are get used to cold weather....

[nwy5633]

anyway..
there is useless to argue who will beat who..
juz wait & see the result next week..
then we will knw who choose the correct answer for runner up...
so juz vote & support your team lah..
why need to critics ppl??

[ctjcad]

..for the sake of BC being full of supporters, i hope MAS can make it to the Finals day..;):):cool:

[Felicia_txh]

anyway..
there is useless to argue who will beat who..
juz wait & see the result next week..
then we will knw who choose the correct answer for runner up...
so juz vote & support your team lah..
why need to critics ppl??
Ya..tis world is full of surprise n miracle!!Nothing is impossible!!;)

[pjswift]

another factor to be considered that it plays in Scotland....so weather can affect all asian players , notably like INA, MAS or Thai.....China, Japan and korean are get used to cold weather....
It's getting into summer..the weather may be cold like 15* but not freezing. Anyway you won't find INA,MAS or Thai players using weather as an excuse like LD did during SO07. The coward said Spore was too humid for his liking;he forgot he did play well enough to reach a final!

[saugusli]

Hi all,

The weather not impact to this sudirman cup for asian players. you reason not base on facts.

Singapore? Singapore going to semifinal is very very impossible man... and going to final for singapore team is very million2222 impossible..

Now, 2007. Singapore until 3500 also not sure....hhaa still far..


It's getting into summer..the weather may be cold like 15* but not freezing. Anyway you won't find INA,MAS or Thai players using weather as an excuse like LD did during SO07. The coward said Spore was too humid for his liking;he forgot he did play well enough to reach a final!

[ammatuerplayer]

Malaysia will be lucky if they were in semis
but for the runner-up-no way!!!!

[robin7]

Can Malaysaia make it to SF?
If No, how can Malaysia beat Ina?

YES. It's very likely (50%) MAS will make it to SF and probably (25%) Final.

Chances of MAS into SF are higher than INA, KOR & DEN as analysed by 2cents.

[robin7]

I vote for Malaysia.

Not because Malaysia is better, but because they have the perfect draw.

Assume China beats every country, and Malaysia, Korea, Denmark, and Indonesia are at the same level, which means it's simply 50%-50% between any two of Malaysia, Korea, Denmark, and Indonesia, then Malaysia only needs one win to claim the runner up position. So the chances for each are:

Malaysia: 50%
Indonesia: 16%
Korea: 16%
Denmark: 16%

Being grouped with China, Malaysia successfully avoid China in the elimination round which equivalent to the winner position of the other group, which Indonesia, Korea and Denmark have 1/3 chance to get it. That's the simple reason Malaysia's chance equals 3 times of the other teams.

Saugusli (not sure how many ID you have), this is what I call "a senseful analysis".

[Tommy Susanto]

Hi all,

The weather not impact to this sudirman cup for asian players. you reason not base on facts.

Singapore? Singapore going to semifinal is very very impossible man... and going to final for singapore team is very million2222 impossible..

Now, 2007. Singapore until 3500 also not sure....hhaa still far..

Give me a five, saugusli:D:D:D

[nwy5633]

if base on BWF ranking (each event)..
malaysia should be group A1 runner up..
tat mean a semis...
so if malaysia is in semis, tat is not lucky!!!
they SHOULD!
but if they were in final, tat is not lucky too!!!
coz tat mean tat their opponent is unlucky..
dunno wat the feeling is when beaten by a country which juz promoted to group A...

[amaze]

Malaysia will be lucky if they were in semis
but for the runner-up-no way!!!!

who knows it may happen.... if all our players play way above themselves :D:D:D

[robin7]

who knows it may happen.... if all our players play way above themselves :D:D:D

YEAAAAAHHHHHHHHH!

[robin7]

if base on BWF ranking (each event)..
malaysia should be group A1 runner up..
tat mean a semis...
so if malaysia is in semis, tat is not lucky!!!
they SHOULD!
but if they were in final, tat is not lucky too!!!
coz tat mean tat their opponent is unlucky..
dunno wat the feeling is when beaten by a country which juz promoted to group A...

Give me 5! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

[robin7]

another factor to be considered that it plays in Scotland....so weather can affect all asian players , notably like INA, MAS or Thai.....China, Japan and korean are get used to cold weather....

I thought players from tropical countries such as MAS, INA & THA can adapt better in cold weather than those from cooler countries in tropical weather.

Anyway, weather in Glasgow (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glasgow#Climate) is not typical of the weather in the rest of Scotland for several reasons. The summer months (May to September) are often long, warm, calm and sunny, but can vary considerably. The winds are generally westerly, due to the warm Gulf Stream. The warmest month is usually July, the daily high averaging 20 °C.

[pramilainc]

Let's have another poll for which team will get relegated to League 2, i'm sure that will have more interest in this forum with both MAS and INA possible candidates.

[nackilsung]

YES. It's very likely (50%) MAS will make it to SF and probably (25%) Final.

Chances of MAS into SF are higher than INA, KOR & DEN as analysed by 2cents.


Now MAS lost to England. The chance is almost 0?

[nwy5633]

Now MAS lost to England. The chance is almost 0?
i think the chance will be 16%..
juz like group B..
three team fight for 1 sit in final on both group now + anything is possible..

[2cents]

Now it's clear that Korea will be the runner up.

[cute_tbh]

i think CHN and ENG would advance to the SF (although...isk isk... i still hope for miracle that THA crashes out ENG and MAS could enter the SF), as well as KOR and INA....

so...the runner up...i think it would be...INA....
yup....

(but if miracle does happen, then maybe MAS could be the runner up....huhu....)

what is the chance of THA crashes out ENG?....40%? 25%?
THA might win from their MS and WS....
they just need to beat ENG in either XD or WD...huhu....

tough....

[cxytdn]

up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jasonmarc]

based on the votes...for the runner up....INA ---25% CHN 12.5%....for tonite Final result.....its CHN going to be the winner......as INA have 100% more chances to be runner up compared to CHN........agree?