Indonesia's Badminton Future

[Loh]

The Jakarta Post

RI's badminton promise remains untapped

Monday, June 11, 2007

Damar Harsanto, Tabanan, Bali

On the eve of the Sudirman Cup mixed team badminton championship, the Indonesian team is surrounded by questions. The main one being will it be able to stay in Group 1 with other badminton powerhouses.

What will Indonesian badminton look like in the next decade?

There is currently a lot of pessimism about the future of Indonesia on badminton's international stage.

The country has seen its performance at world events continue to fall off, with Indonesia going home empty-handed at last year's World Championships.

After six tournaments in the Super Series introduced this year, national players only won a title in Singapore Super Series early last month from mixed doubles pair Flandy Limpele and Vita Marissa.

A new low was hit at the Indonesia Open Super Series, when the national team failed to win anything in front of the home crowd.

This came as a real slap in the face for Badminton Association of Indonesia (PBSI) chairman Sutiyoso, who is also the governor of Jakarta.

Apparently looking for a quick fix, Sutiyoso said on several occasions he wanted to bring Rexy Mainaky back into the fold, to help revive the men's doubles.

Rexy earned England its first Commonwealth Games bronze medal in badminton and is now training some powerful men's doubles teams in Malaysia.

Sutiyoso did call back old hand Candra Wijaya, who had quit the national training camp last year, to help strengthen the team for the Sudirman Cup, which will take place in Glasgow from June 11-17. Candra is still competing in the Super Series with old partner Tony Gunawan, who now represents the United States.

But Sutiyoso's reaction was criticized as "short-sighted".

Critics say the only solution to the current doldrums is to focus on developing young shuttlers.

Seeing how people, especially children, continue to dream of a career in badminton -- as seen from the number of students competing in the MILO School Competition in Lampung, Bali and Surabaya, which ended Sunday -- there is still hope for Indonesian badminton.

"I want to be a world-class player, just like Taufik Hidayat," said 12-year-old Gerry, who is in the sixth grade.

"I also want to be a badminton player," said Canda, 6, the youngest player in the competition.

These were just two of hundreds of students competing in the event. The children had to fight to stay awake as some matches ended around midnight due to the large number of participants. Some had to divide their time between training and study as sixth graders faced national final exams.

Despite the hectic schedule, the children received full support from their enthusiastic parents.

"Without parents' support, there will be no future for Indonesian badminton," said Ava, whose daughter Michelle played in the competition. "Most of the parents are badminton crazy and are willing to do whatever it takes to help their kids become badminton greats."

The enthusiasm of parents and children prompted Tabanan Deputy Regent IGG Putra Wirasana to make an optimistic prediction that at least 0.5 percent of the students taking part in the event would go on to become national players.

"I think it's a realistic target," Putra said.

That prediction, however, received a quick blast from Taufik, who has long been a critic of the PBSI. The Olympic champion lamented the absence of standard badminton halls in most provinces in the country and the glaring lack of competitions for students to improve their skills and confidence.

"It's hard for me to understand why most provincial administrations prefer channeling money to develop soccer than other sports which promise more achievements," said the 2004 Olympic gold medalist and 2005 world champion on the sidelines of a coaching clinic he gave during the tournament.

"I've seen many talented young players from the regions, who faced financial constraints in pursuing their dreams to become professional shuttlers, who received little attention from their local administrations," he said.

Denpasar-based badminton coach Albert Nur is also pessimistic that Bali could one day produce quality national shuttlers.

"There is a lot of politicking in the badminton association at the provincial level so that the top shuttlers in the region will not necessarily represent the region in national tourneys, as the officials in the association prefer the kids they train, even if they do not perform as well, to other kids trained by other coaches," Albert said.

He also highlighted the island's lack of qualified coaches.

"Many coaches have no qualifications. They can play badminton and they open training camps for students without knowledge of any standard training methods. We will never produce great players with that kind of training," said Albert, who enjoyed eight years of training with Jaya Raya club of Jakarta.

Susila of Badung, whose daughter Indah played in the Milo event, said he did not think local clubs and tournaments in the regions would help his daughter improve her skill.

"The local clubs and the tournaments here are a bit substandard. We have to move to big clubs if we really want to significantly improve our kids' skills in badminton."

PBSI has planned to arrange standardized coaching methods in clubs at the provincial level, so the gap between big and small clubs can be narrowed. However, the plan has yet to be put in place.


(To think that Indonesia has one of the best coaching systems is now in doubt!)

[Krisna]

Despite the hectic schedule, the children received full support from their enthusiastic parents.

"Without parents' support, there will be no future for Indonesian badminton," said Ava, whose daughter Michelle played in the competition. "Most of the parents are badminton crazy and are willing to do whatever it takes to help their kids become badminton greats."

The enthusiasm of parents and children prompted Tabanan Deputy Regent IGG Putra Wirasana to make an optimistic prediction that at least 0.5 percent of the students taking part in the event would go on to become national players. "I think it's a realistic target," Putra said.

That prediction, however, received a quick blast from Taufik, who has long been a critic of the PBSI. The Olympic champion lamented the absence of standard badminton halls in most provinces in the country and the glaring lack of competitions for students to improve their skills and confidence.

PBSI has planned to arrange standardized coaching methods in clubs at the provincial level, so the gap between big and small clubs can be narrowed. However, the plan has yet to be put in place.

(To think that Indonesia has one of the best coaching systems is now in doubt!)

I do not doubt the fact that: Indonesia does not have the best coaching system. :p We do not have any coaching system at all.

And yes without parental support, usually it is very hard to get talented athletes to become top pros. Thus, the monetary incentives have to be unusually high for the parents to be willing to risk their kid's future. Thus PBSI should concentrate on designing an environment where the benefits of being a top athlete is huge! That should be 50% of their activity. Not just managing the National Team. :mad: And not so good in managing that one thing either... :mad:

[kimpe_bultang]

Hmm... How to have promising athletes when a lot of parents who HAS the money won't let their kids train?? And, PB PBSI only receives ex-national player as a coach with certificate... If I'm not mistaken...
And, Krisna, where do you think PBSI will get the money to arrange those?? They cnt arrenge one, what about 2???

[Krisna]

Hmm... How to have promising athletes when a lot of parents who HAS the money won't let their kids train?? And, PB PBSI only receives ex-national player as a coach with certificate... If I'm not mistaken...
And, Krisna, where do you think PBSI will get the money to arrange those?? They cnt arrenge one, what about 2???

Most badminton countries who does not get government funding rely on a lot of multiple sponsorship and membership fees. But before they can charge membership fees, they have to have tournaments etc. so people will be interested in joining as active tournament participants etc... :) As for sponsorships, the current management are just plain incompetent. They can get many if they know how to do business... :mad: My team have proven that it can be done in our own PBSI branch...

[ctjcad]

As for sponsorships, the current management are just plain incompetent. They can get many if they know how to do business... :mad:
..of one of those business & sponsorship proposals/ideas posted by kidosetiawan, recently, in a few of his postings..:confused::rolleyes::);)..Btw, where's that young lad??..:confused::p
Yes, i can agree on what the content of the article...I think the bottom line, it all goes back to the issue of money & finance..
Thanks, Loh, for sharing the article..:cool:

[yannie]

Firda............

[yannie]

Mel - Shendy (Djarum)

[yannie]

Fransiska Ratnasari

Dutch Open 2007

[yannie]

Pia Zebadiah-Bernadet

[yannie]

Tommy Sugiarto....

[ants]

Nice pics Yannie...

Personally i think Indonesian badminton is getting better now with alot of clubs participating and sending players to play internationally.

[yannie]

Yup, especially Djarum Badminton Club..

So funny PBSI players quit national team and (re)join Djarum..
BAM players quit national team and join KLRC..

Club players will get sent to more tournaments overseas..

[CLELY]

PBSI Chairman Bang Yos has targeted INA to replace China dominance in badminton achievement. This target will be reached gradually and not bombastic target.

"We send many players to numerous tournaments in Europe and Asia which mean reach achievement," said Sutiyoso. For one European circuit which consist three tournaments, PB PBSI spend almost 2 billions rupiah.

Early target for woman sector, entering semifinal Uber Cup 2008 in Jakarta. And then 2 years later target is grab the Uber Cup. Meanwhile in man division, both singles and doubles still continue to be strengthen.

-- taken from KOMPAS (24 Nov/07).

[badMania]

Prospective top pairs IMHO:
MD
Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan
Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan

WD
Yulianti with another player, either Richi Dili Puspita or Nathalia Poluakan (doubtful really :cool:)

XD
Tantowi Akhmad/Yulianti (quite obvious, isn't it?)

[Krisna]

Prospective top pairs IMHO:
MD
Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan
Wifqi Windarto/Afiat Yuris Wirawan

WD
Yulianti with another player, either Richi Dili Puspita or Nathalia Poluakan (doubtful really :cool:)

XD
Tantowi Akhmad/Yulianti (quite obvious, isn't it?)

Richi might be paired up with Debby Susanto... They were successful as the Asian Junior champion this year. :) But frankly, they need more power... Right now, both are skillful, but not powerful enough at the world level... :o

[badMania]

Richi might be paired up with Debby Susanto... They were successful as the Asian Junior champion this year. :) But frankly, they need more power... Right now, both are skillful, but not powerful enough at the world level... :o

If that's the case then Yulianti will continue to pair up with the slightly more experience Nathalia Poluakan. Not a bad pairing as I watched them play in the Vietnam Open and a useful first GP title in their first outing as well :)

We'll see how they progress in the Russian Open GP Gold.

[taufik-ist]

adi pratama... one of TH's successors...:rolleyes::cool: the runnerup of junior ms kejurnas
he plays like TH..:D he does backhand smashes ,good netplay and dropshot ..his skill and technique are complete... but he haven't had a good power and stamina enough yet... :D...

he's in my radar now :D

[Krisna]

I saw Adi Pratama too... Okay laaah... we shall see... :D

[yannie]

Devin Lahardi Fitriawan... ;)

[d65up2]

..of one of those business & sponsorship proposals/ideas posted by kidosetiawan, recently, in a few of his postings..:confused::rolleyes::);)..Btw, where's that young lad??..:confused::p
Yes, i can agree on what the content of the article...I think the bottom line, it all goes back to the issue of money & finance..
Thanks, Loh, for sharing the article..:cool:

Hey I am here...lol its been a while isn't it.....

[ctjcad]

..that's you, used to be kidosetiawan...Hmm, i thought, you would use the screen-name of setiawankido, instead?!..;)..Anyways, hope what happened in the past won't happen, again. And good to have you back..;):cool:

[d65up2]

hehehe dun think it would happend again lol......btw with Ina badminton...is just a wild idea...why dun we have Markis Kido playing XD he would be good......His partner would be Greysia Pollii.......or maybe Rani Mundiasti

[taufik-ist]

Hey I am here...lol its been a while isn't it.....

is that you.... hati-hati bro.. :D :D don't get banned again :p

[d65up2]

engge maturnuwun bro...won't get banned again...although I wish I can have my old user back cos ppl are more familiar with that lol

[taufik-ist]

engge maturnuwun bro...won't get banned again...although I wish I can have my old user back cos ppl are more familiar with that lol

kidosetiawan is one of the best usernames... world class username :D :D

btw... kowe lagi kuliah ning londen..to (btw are you studying in london)

[d65up2]

Nah dude I am in Durham...........in England I'll finish in 2009....I know I miss dat user name....I wish there is any way to undo the banning spell...cos I kinna want it back..dun really feel comfortable with this one to be honest

[Sandy]

Evert Sukamta,
Best INA U-16

Next week, play in India Challenge,

R-32, against seeded 1, Chetan Anand (IND)

[Smichz]

Firda............

Is there anyone here that also thinks that Firda looks abit like Susi susanti in some ways?:confused:

[yannie]

Evert Sukamta,
Best INA U-16

Next week, play in India Challenge,

R-32, against seeded 1, Chetan Anand (IND)

OMG.. He looks like Liew Daren... :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:!!!

[d65up2]

Evert Sukamta,
Best INA U-16

Next week, play in India Challenge,

R-32, against seeded 1, Chetan Anand (IND)


How good is he really?? If can beat Chetan then he is quite alrite lol....our new hope perhaps???

[Sandy]

How good is he really?? If can beat Chetan then he is quite alrite lol....our new hope perhaps???

He is still 15 years old, don't hope too much against seeded 1.
The good thing is Tangkas start to send their players to international event also send U-16 player in the squad.

[huangkwokhau]

He is still 15 years old, don't hope too much against seeded 1.
The good thing is Tangkas start to send their players to international event also send U-16 player in the squad.

Hope that they do it like Djarum club....

[huangkwokhau]

hehehe dun think it would happend again lol......btw with Ina badminton...is just a wild idea...why dun we have Markis Kido playing XD he would be good......His partner would be Greysia Pollii.......or maybe Rani Mundiasti
Kido used to play with Butet in junior....according to Butet last nite...:D I did not even know that......

[chris-ccc]

Don't forget... the first thing is to get players interested in Badminton, for them to enjoy playing the game.

It doesn't matter if they play well or not.

But when the number of players participating in Badminton increases, we are sure to find at least 1% of them to be talented and to be future champions.

***

[d65up2]

New pairing after olympic in XD

Hendra Setiawan-Rani Mundiasti
Muhamad Rizal-Greysia Pollii (They are prove quite successful)
Markis Kido-Liliyana Natsir
Nova Widianto-Vita Marissa
Devin Lahardi-Jo Novita


Yeeeee

[badMania]

Hendra Setiawan-Rani Mundiasti
Muhamad Rizal-Greysia Pollii (They are prove quite successful)
Markis Kido-Liliyana Natsir
Nova Widianto-Vita Marissa
Devin Lahardi-Jo Novita


Oh please.....u won't even see some of those players in the list. There IS NOT A CHANCE that Kido/Hendra will play in the mixed doubles as well.

The pairs that are going to rise up the ranks:
Tantowi Akhmad/Yulianti -- Kejurnas Runner-Up, the one I am most interested in
Mohd Rijal/Greysia Polii -- back together as a pair
Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita -- a good back up pairing, but, we will still see if they are good enough to be among the top 8.

Hendra A. Gunawan might make a good XD player since he's already 26 by next year.....

[huangkwokhau]

New pairing after olympic in XD

Hendra Setiawan-Rani Mundiasti
Muhamad Rizal-Greysia Pollii (They are prove quite successful)
Markis Kido-Liliyana Natsir
Nova Widianto-Vita Marissa
Devin Lahardi-Jo Novita


Yeeeee
It wont happen....Gres/Rizal will be back,tantowi/Yulianti will be sent more to GP as well as some SS ( Indonesia, Singapore,Malaysia, may be Korea too), Kido and hendra will not play mix for now...

[V3i HoN6]

Kido and Hendra should focus their everything into their MD partnership now.
Ina should consider not stressing them out and most importantly not to injure them for as less as possible. They are certainly being one of the biggest contenders for the OG08.

[d65up2]

Kido and Hendra should focus their everything into their MD partnership now.
Ina should consider not stressing them out and most importantly not to injure them for as less as possible. They are certainly being one of the biggest contenders for the OG08.

I love Kido Hendra and I want them to win olympics but I dun even think they have a 10% chance....cos 50% goes to KKK-TBH and 40% goes to Cai-Fu.....I hope Kido-Hendra prove me wrong but it would be unlikely...their win in the 2 superseries are quite cheap...I mean in China they won against 2nd rated player

[badMania]

I love Kido Hendra and I want them to win olympics but I dun even think they have a 10% chance....cos 50% goes to KKK-TBH and 40% goes to Cai-Fu.....I hope Kido-Hendra prove me wrong but it would be unlikely...their win in the 2 superseries are quite cheap...I mean in China they won against 2nd rated player

Dude....have u even watched the matches?? Even some Chinese fans think that Kido/Hendra have the biggest chance of winning the Olympics gold.:cool: Cheap wins?? LOL.....

[Krisna]

I love Kido Hendra and I want them to win olympics but I dun even think they have a 10% chance....cos 50% goes to KKK-TBH and 40% goes to Cai-Fu.....I hope Kido-Hendra prove me wrong but it would be unlikely...their win in the 2 superseries are quite cheap...I mean in China they won against 2nd rated player

Winning two SS back-to-back is difficult... :cool: Never cheap. And if they are cheap, did Cai-Fu, Tony-Candra, Jens-Martin, etc. came all the way there to intentionally make it cheap for Kido-Hendra?!? :rolleyes: I don't think so.


Dude....have u even watched the matches?? Even some Chinese fans think that Kido/Hendra have the biggest chance of winning the Olympics gold.:cool: Cheap wins?? LOL.....

I think Cai-Fu 30%, KKK-TBH 30%, Kido-Hendra 30%, Others 10%... :D

[badMania]

I think Cai-Fu 30%, KKK-TBH 30%, Kido-Hendra 30%, Others 10%... :D

Yup....that's more reasonable. All the 3 pairs have equal chances of winning:D

Off topic: how abt the chance of Rian/Yoke going to Olympics :p?

[V3i HoN6]

I love Kido Hendra and I want them to win olympics but I dun even think they have a 10% chance....cos 50% goes to KKK-TBH and 40% goes to Cai-Fu.....I hope Kido-Hendra prove me wrong but it would be unlikely...their win in the 2 superseries are quite cheap...I mean in China they won against 2nd rated player
They certainly stand more than 10% chance if you ask me.
In fact I would rate them 29%, CY/FHF 30%, and KKK/TBH 28%, each with their slight advantage over each but it really depends on who suddenly wake up during that time.

Like Krisna said, those wins are not cheap at all.
And even consistently reaching final but not neccessarily win it is also worth a lot.

[eaglehelang]

I think Cai-Fu 30%, KKK-TBH 30%, Kido-Hendra 30%, Others 10%... :D

Others only 10%?
FU/Cai =28%(home ground advantage, assuming they improve their weaknesses),
KKK/TBH=26%(this yr 1st time play in China, lost),
Kido/Setiawan = 27%(always do well in China/HK)
Others = 19% (CTF/LWW- on good days they play very well, LYD/Jung, might bounce back, they arent WC runner-up for no reason)

If Tony/Chandra get to go (as a pair, if not it was said Tony might have to pair Howard Bach to represent US), their chance is 15%

[s1nn3r]

Others only 10%?
FU/Cai =28%(home ground advantage, assuming they improve their weaknesses),
KKK/TBH=26%(this yr 1st time play in China, lost),
Kido/Setiawan = 27%(always do well in China/HK)
Others = 19% (CTF/LWW- on good days they play very well, LYD/Jung, might bounce back, they arent WC runner-up for no reason)

If Tony/Chandra get to go (as a pair, if not it was said Tony might have to pair Howard Bach to represent US), their chance is 15%
Are your guys crazeeee…. You think other than CY/FHF anyone else can win the GOLD?CY/FHF - 90% with linesman & empire help + crowd support + poisioning of opponent by chinese secret agent.

[d65up2]

Are your guys crazeeee…. You think other than CY/FHF anyone else can win the GOLD?CY/FHF - 90% with linesman & empire help + crowd support + poisioning of opponent by chinese secret agent.


Maybe true....cos Olympics China would want to show that they are the new super power so any means would be done to achieve the top rank in Olympics

[Krisna]

Andre Kurniawan Tedjono is currently ranked #25 in the world. This confirms his de-facto status as INA's #4 MS after Sony, Taufik, and Simon... He just turned 21 this month [December 2007], so he has some room for growth in the coming 3-4 years...

[babystar]

in future, we'll see NATARINA ALIKA be the #1 player in the world

[pijah]

We'll see, if she can follow her father's "foot step" ;)

[justin-terbalik]

We'll see, if she can follow her father's "foot step" ;)

i doubt..because i read @ www.kapanlagi.com (http://www.kapanlagi.com) TH said that he will not force his daughter to be like him...

[babystar]

i doubt..because i read @ www.kapanlagi.com (http://www.kapanlagi.com) TH said that he will not force his daughter to be like him...
oic...
but i hope she'll play badminton...

[pijah]

It doesn't mean that Natarina won't play badminton if her father doesn't force her. It's about interest she has. Anyhow, just wait and see. :P

[Winston_T]

PBSI Chairman Bang Yos has targeted INA to replace China dominance in badminton achievement. This target will be reached gradually and not bombastic target.

Early target for woman sector, entering semifinal Uber Cup 2008 in Jakarta. And then 2 years later target is grab the Uber Cup. Meanwhile in man division, both singles and doubles still continue to be strengthen.

-- taken from KOMPAS (24 Nov/07).

very optimistic target. time will tell if they can realize it or not.

[Winston_T]

Andre Kurniawan Tedjono is currently ranked #25 in the world. This confirms his de-facto status as INA's #4 MS after Sony, Taufik, and Simon... He just turned 21 this month [December 2007], so he has some room for growth in the coming 3-4 years...

what about now?
whose ranked is higher, Andre or Tommy Sugiarto?

[Winston_T]

I love Kido Hendra and I want them to win olympics but I dun even think they have a 10% chance....cos 50% goes to KKK-TBH and 40% goes to Cai-Fu.....I hope Kido-Hendra prove me wrong but it would be unlikely...their win in the 2 superseries are quite cheap...I mean in China they won against 2nd rated player

their main threat should be KKK - TBH. too bad Fu - Cai always lost in most of the encounters against the Indonesian.

[king smash]

Pia Zebadiah-Bernadet
sister of markis kido


Tommy Sugiarto....
son of icuk sugiarto(MS player who get a world champion title) ..

[king smash]

Devin Lahardi Fitriawan... ;)
MD player,i forget with who ..