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Krisna
06-13-2007, 09:46 AM
8-8! Waah lucky numbers...

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 09:46 AM
8 all for both teams

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:47 AM
Candra-Alven vs. Albertus-Yohan... Hey, sound's like an Indonesian Superliga game here...

indonesia vs indonesia :)..... Albertus-Yohan still hold indonesia passport

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:47 AM
it's dangerous......... 8:10

badMania
06-13-2007, 09:48 AM
As expected, quite an even match as the HKG pair leads 11-9 at the interval, despite being 4-8 down.

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:49 AM
match between teamates always 'seru'

jasonmarc
06-13-2007, 09:49 AM
No, if KOR win over DEN, then they shall be undefeated in the group. If so, KOR will be at the top of this group...:(

Oops..i mean Den over KOR 3 - 2....:o:D sorry!

Krisna
06-13-2007, 09:51 AM
INA trailing 12-15.... Oh no...

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:52 AM
if ina lose to HK and korea win over denmark,

who will qualify to the semi... indonesia or denmark ?

Krisna
06-13-2007, 09:52 AM
Oops..i mean Den over KOR 3 - 2....:o:D sorry!

Ooh, I thought so... :D Yeah, let's top this group despite the 0-3 contribution by our WS... :o

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:52 AM
INA trailing 12-15.... Oh no...

who has an idea to field chandra/alven :mad:.... 'horor banget' :cool:

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 09:53 AM
so far INA MD does not look convincing....still shaky

Krisna
06-13-2007, 09:53 AM
if ina lose to HK and korea win over denmark,

who will qualify to the semi... indonesia or denmark ?

Depends on the scores... :p

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 09:54 AM
INA MD loses first set

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:55 AM
Depends on the scores... :p


if ina lose to HK, i bet Korea will field second team againts denmark :mad:

Krisna
06-13-2007, 09:56 AM
who has an idea to field chandra/alven :mad:.... 'horor banget' :cool:

Not me. I wouldn't even drop Luluk... :p Must be some PBSI official in Jakarta who doesn't know anything about badminton... Ha ha ha... :p

I am pretty sure the decision was made by Pak Lutfi, the team manager. Or... a direct order from Bang Yos himself... :mad:

badMania
06-13-2007, 09:57 AM
The INA pair lost the first set 18-21 :mad:
They better focus and don't lose the remaining set.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 09:57 AM
INA needs to win 4-1 to be safe to SF

nugroho
06-13-2007, 09:58 AM
do you think chandra/alvent could take this game?

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 09:59 AM
Not me. I wouldn't even drop Luluk... :p Must be some PBSI official in Jakarta who doesn't know anything about badminton... Ha ha ha... :p

I am pretty sure the decision was made by Pak Lutfi, the team manager. Or... a direct order from Bang Yos himself... :mad:

if ina lose to HK..... lutfi will be 'hanged' :D

Krisna
06-13-2007, 09:59 AM
if ina lose to HK, i bet Korea will field second team againts denmark :mad:

I don't think they will risk running into China in the semis. They have to beat Denmark to make sure they are on top... If DEN beat their 2nd team convincingly [5-0 or something], then DEN will top the group...:p Meaning... KOR most likely face CHN... :p

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:00 AM
do you think chandra/alvent could take this game?

chandra/alvent should play as usual.. don't get tense

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:02 AM
INA leading 8-6... still a very close game...

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:04 AM
Still unconvincing, but, Candra/Alvent lead 11-7 at the interval of the second set.

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:05 AM
chandra/alvent should play as usual.. don't get tense

Guys...its CANDRA...not CHANDRA....:cool:

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:05 AM
Hope INA MD will take 2nd set

hcyong
06-13-2007, 10:06 AM
Poland surprisingly defeated the Nederlands, using its doubles power. So tomorrow, it will be a straight fight between Japan and Poland for Div 2 Group B supremacy. Nederlands will take on Russia to avoid the bottom. Prediction: Japan-Poland-Nederlands-Russia

badboypedi
06-13-2007, 10:07 AM
is the livescore down?

jasonmarc
06-13-2007, 10:07 AM
dont worry....have faith on candra/alven ...they will deliver the point in rubber game.........INA Over HK 4 - 1....

Tjun Tjun
06-13-2007, 10:07 AM
I'm fearing for the worst, neither Malaysia nor Indonesia entering the semi-finals this weekend ......unthinkable happening?

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:08 AM
my live score is dead.....

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:08 AM
is the livescore down?

yup.. freezing... freezing

tommy_bun
06-13-2007, 10:08 AM
mine too
post the results pls

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:08 AM
suspence keeps continue...I need to drive back to LA this morning before traffic

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:09 AM
it's bad sign.....

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:10 AM
badmania..... the score pliz

nugroho
06-13-2007, 10:11 AM
mine too
what's happen there?

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:11 AM
If your's freezed...mine's too :D

Sandy
06-13-2007, 10:12 AM
Not me. I wouldn't even drop Luluk... :p Must be some PBSI official in Jakarta who doesn't know anything about badminton... Ha ha ha... :p

I am pretty sure the decision was made by Pak Lutfi, the team manager. Or... a direct order from Bang Yos himself... :mad:

The lazy style of the Official, made instant glory.
They didn't develope the youngster and always depend on veteran players

tommy_bun
06-13-2007, 10:12 AM
ina won 21-14......

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:12 AM
The INA pair levels it at 21-14...so..on to rubber set now.

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 10:12 AM
the line-up has been updated..
if i am not wrong, some player of KOR is from second team like Park Tae Sang..

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=15280&match=889

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:12 AM
Thanks God INA MD won 2nd set...21-14

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
Thanks God INA MD won 2nd set...21-14

he..he now you can drive home safely :D

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
wat a interesting line-up..
after all the defeat,finally DEN slot Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen in MD..

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
Yes! Yes! Rubber sets! INA leading 5-1 in the last set so far...

gary_seeker
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
remember that candra-sigit when it's coming to important match, many of those match, they lost on their first set then take 2nd and 3rd set. Well Alvent isn't sigit but we'll see

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:14 AM
the line-up has been updated..
if i am not wrong, some player of KOR is from second team like Park Tae Sang..

http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=15280&match=889


They only change MS which it does not matter as Kor MS will lose to DEN....good for Kor to taste and challenge PG

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:15 AM
keep that score...7-1.....come on INA...pls..pls win as I need to drive home

gary_seeker
06-13-2007, 10:16 AM
9-1 for INA Pair, that's a huge lead. hope they still have the gas to win the match

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:16 AM
he..he now you can drive home safely :D

Not yet...later I need some to SMS me last match also

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:16 AM
well 9-4 now...HKG is catching up

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:17 AM
wat a interesting line-up..
after all the defeat,finally DEN slot Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen in MD..

the best lineup for denmark.... ericksen can focus in XD... hey i remember ericksen/juhl is the finalist of korea open 2006, they are good... denmark can win 3:2

tommy_bun
06-13-2007, 10:18 AM
the best lineup for denmark.... ericksen can focus in XD... hey i remember ericksen/juhl is the finalist of korea open 2006, they are good... denmark can win 3:2

eriksen/mette not eriksen juhl

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:18 AM
So far so good...Candra/Alvent leading 11-4 at the interval of the rubber set. Barring a major collapse, I think INA is safely through to the semi-finals now.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:19 AM
INA needs to win 4-1 then Kor will feel pressure to beat DEN to top the group...

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:19 AM
I don't think they will risk running into China in the semis. They have to beat Denmark to make sure they are on top... If DEN beat their 2nd team convincingly [5-0 or something], then DEN will top the group...:p Meaning... KOR most likely face CHN... :p

DEN and KOR just fielded their 1st team! Except for Park Tae Sang... I think they know whatever they field against Peter Gade, the results will be the same... :p Might as well give Park Tae Sang some experience... :D:p

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 10:19 AM
yeah, no way the HK pair is going to close that big a gap.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:20 AM
12-6 now for INA.....come on

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:20 AM
candra/alven leading 13:6..... HK pair is running out of gas :)

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:20 AM
yes...14-6....pls wrap it up....

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:21 AM
As long as INA takes home this point, the number of matches won/loss will at least be 9-6.

Even if Denmark wins 5-0, they won't surpass INA. So, INA is safely through to the semi-finals.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:21 AM
INA needs to win 4-1 then Kor will feel pressure to beat DEN to top the group...

True! ;) You are right! But we have to win this first 4-1... :p

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:21 AM
15:6...... hmmmmm :)

gary_seeker
06-13-2007, 10:23 AM
20-10 for INA, safe passage

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:23 AM
yeah, no way the HK pair is going to close that big a gap.

Maria Kristin lost around 7 straight points yesterday... :crying:
Firda lost 8 straight points today...:crying:

But it is unlikely Candra-Alven will let that happen. These guys were former world #1s... ;)

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:23 AM
if ina win 4:1 and denmark win 3:2, who will the group winner, indonesia or korea ?

gary_seeker
06-13-2007, 10:24 AM
and they won 21-10. Good game candra

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:24 AM
Yesss!!! 3-1 INA we are still alive!

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:24 AM
Maria Kristin lost around 7 straight points yesterday... :crying:
Firda lost 8 straight points today...:crying:

But it is unlikely Candra-Alven will let that happen. These guys were former world #1s... ;)


ya both are former world #1... they have 'mental baja' :)

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:25 AM
INA wins the tie 3-1, as the scratch pairing of Candra Wijaya/Alvent Yulianto beat Albertus Susanto Njoto/Yohan Wiratama Hadikusumo 18-21, 21-14, 21-10.

Now for the last match between another scratch pairing of Greysia Polii/Lilyana Natsir vs Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah.

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:25 AM
Yesss!!! 3-1 INA we are still alive!

lutfi just won the gambling :)

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:26 AM
if ina win 4:1 and denmark win 3:2, who will the group winner, indonesia or korea ?

INA with 10 and Kor 9

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:27 AM
if ina win 4:1 and denmark win 3:2, who will the group winner, indonesia or korea ?

INA....based on the number of matches won or loss.
At the moment, INA has at least 9:6...if the last match is won by INA, then it will be 10:5.

If DEN wins 3-2, then KOR will have 9:6, while DEN will have 7:8.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:27 AM
INA wins the tie 3-1, as the scratch pairing of Candra Wijaya/Alvent Yulianto beat Albertus Susanto Njoto/Yohan Wiratama Hadikusumo 18-21, 21-14, 21-10.

Now for the last match between another scratch pairing of Greysia Polii/Lilyana Natsir vs Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah.

Honestly I would like to see this pair than Polii/Jo Novita...I have a feeling this pair can be better...anyway...they can not be too relax...have to win this match.

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:27 AM
INA with 10 and Kor 9

yes..... ina will avoid china in semi :D

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:28 AM
Well...the group is staying at least until Saturday now....since INA is through to the semi-final. Even though DEN wins 5-0 (very very improbable), they will at most only get 9-6. Based on head-to-head, INA beats DEN.

saugusli
06-13-2007, 10:31 AM
Hi. I also hope Korea lost to denmark 2:3

Now: 3:1 (INA vs Hongkong).. Hope INA can win to Hongkong 4:1.


INA....based on the number of matches won or loss.
At the moment, INA has at least 9:6...if the last match is won by INA, then it will be 10:5.

If DEN wins 3-2, then KOR will have 9:6, while DEN will have 7:8.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:32 AM
6-1 INA... Our new doubles pair is quite good... well... at least against this HK pair, they look good...

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:33 AM
2 minutes already 9-3 for INA WD

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:33 AM
Greysia/Butet storm ahead 11-3.

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:33 AM
poli/butet is running away :)

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:35 AM
6-1 INA... Our new doubles pair is quite good... well... at least against this HK pair, they look good...
I think this HK pair beat WD DEN in 3 sets..so dont take it lightly...if INA meets China, I will put XD Flandy/Marissa and WD Polii/Natsir....you will never know and candra/alvent as kido/Hendra will lose anyway to cai/Fu

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:35 AM
13-4! Go Butet, go Gresya!

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:37 AM
I think this HK pair beat WD DEN in 3 sets..so dont take it lightly...if INA meets China, I will put XD Flandy/Marissa and WD Polii/Natsir....you will never know and candra/alvent as kido/Hendra will lose anyway to cai/Fu

I will put Greysia/Vita or Greysia/Butet. Kido/Hendra MAY NOT lose to Fu/Cai.
Recent head-to-head is 2-2, with the last match being last year's Asian Games team event semi-final.

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:38 AM
The newly formed INA WD pair wastes no time in sealing the first set 21-7 in just 6 mins :eek:

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:38 AM
I think this HK pair beat WD DEN in 3 sets..so dont take it lightly...if INA meets China, I will put XD Flandy/Marissa and WD Polii/Natsir....you will never know and candra/alvent as kido/Hendra will lose anyway to cai/Fu

markis/hendra vs cai/fu = 50:50, they defeated cai/fu in china open 2006 and invitation tournament (china master 2006)

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:39 AM
6 min?!? Hey HKG, we thank you for your generosity...

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:39 AM
The newly formed INA WD pair wastes no time in sealing the first set 21-7 in just 6 mins :eek:

he... it could be the fastest match ever :D

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:41 AM
i will get points from my PAW poli/lilyana natsir :)

taufik-ist
06-13-2007, 10:43 AM
ohhh... no poli/lilyana is cooling down :)

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:45 AM
different scenarion in 2nd set...INA is behind 10-11

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:45 AM
As expected, scores are tighter and the HKG pair inches ahead 11-10 at the interval of the second set :cool:

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 10:46 AM
As expected, scores are tighter and the HKG pair inches ahead 11-10 at the interval of the second set :cool:

they are prolly just playing around a bit now that INA have won the tie.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:47 AM
12-11 INA! C'mon girls! Give them hell... INA is still a badminton powerhouse!

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 10:49 AM
12-11 INA! C'mon girls! Give them hell... INA is still a badminton powerhouse!


hahaha, right now CHN is like america, the world's only superpower when it comes to badminton. MAS, INA, DEN and KOR are all scrambling for 2nd place ...

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:50 AM
Hey, the HKG girls are leading 19-16 after just 12 minutes...

nackilsung
06-13-2007, 10:50 AM
INA....based on the number of matches won or loss.
At the moment, INA has at least 9:6...if the last match is won by INA, then it will be 10:5.

If DEN wins 3-2, then KOR will have 9:6, while DEN will have 7:8.


If KOR wins, then KOR 1st, INA 2nd.
If DEN wins 3-2, then INA 1st, KOR 2nd
If DEN wins 4-1, then INA 1st, DEN 2nd
If DEN wins 5-0, then INA 1st, DEN 2nd

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:51 AM
hahaha, right now CHN is like america, the world's only superpower when it comes to badminton. MAS, INA, DEN and KOR are all scrambling for 2nd place ...

Oh, true... no arguments on that point. That's why I just said that INA is a powerhouse, not a superpower...:o We know where we stand...:p

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:51 AM
oh no..19-20.......

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
Aaarrrgghhh! Rubbers!

badMania
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
The HKG pair takes the second set 21-19 :mad:
The gals need to wake up now and take the rubber set.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
here you go...3rd set

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 10:52 AM
oo..
another rubber set..
wat's going on ?
playing against hkg also got so many rubber set?

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 10:53 AM
The HKG pair takes the second set 21-19 :mad:
The gals need to wake up now and take the rubber set.

yeah, my PAW is riding on this one!
i thought it was in the bag when they won the first game 21-7!!
:p

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:54 AM
Kor beat HKG mostly in straight sets except WS....even their XD and WD beat HKG so handily.....but INA has to win in 3 sets....

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:55 AM
now...6-0..looks like 1st set

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:55 AM
If KOR wins, then KOR 1st, INA 2nd.
If DEN wins 3-2, then INA 1st, KOR 2nd
If DEN wins 4-1, then INA 1st, DEN 2nd
If DEN wins 5-0, then INA 1st, DEN 2nd

DEN has a good shot of getting points from
Peter Gade
Lars-Jonas

Medium chance from
their mix double
Tine Rasmussen

Almost no chance from
their WD... :p

I think KOR will win... 3-2... ;)

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 10:55 AM
now...6-0..looks ike 1st set

hahaha, yeah, they were playing around just now i guess, giving the crowd some value for money.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:56 AM
Zooooommmm 7-0! Go INA!

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 10:57 AM
DEN has a good shot of getting points from
Peter Gade
Lars-Jonas

Medium chance from
their mix double
Tine Rasmussen

Almost no chance from
their WD... :p

I think KOR will win... 3-2... ;)
while i tink kor will take it 4-1:cool:

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 10:57 AM
DEN has a good shot of getting points from
Peter Gade
Lars-Jonas

Medium chance from
their mix double
Tine Rasmussen

Almost no chance from
their WD... :p

I think KOR will win... 3-2... ;)

i think tine has a better chance of getting a point than LP/JR.
LJJ/HJM are pretty strong.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:57 AM
HKG WD is crawling their way back 4-9..watch out

Krisna
06-13-2007, 10:58 AM
Kor beat HKG mostly in straight sets except WS....even their XD and WD beat HKG so handily.....but INA has to win in 3 sets....

Dude, we are not fielding Taufik, Kido-Hendra, Lili-Nova, Gresya-Vita, and Maria Kristin... Essentially, we are beating HKG with our reserves... :p Pak Lutfi really likes to gamble big time! :eek:

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 10:58 AM
okay..11-4 for INA WD

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 10:59 AM
HKG WD is crawling their way back 4-9..watch out
but i tink walking will be faster than crawling...:D

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 11:00 AM
Dude, we are not fielding Taufik, Kido-Hendra, Lili-Nova, Gresya-Vita, and Maria Kristin... Essentially, we are beating HKG with our reserves... :p Pak Lutfi really likes to gamble big time! :eek:

Thats true but we need more straight sets in case INA and Kor end up same points....so far so good.....well...I cant say anything as long as INA wins 4-1 to have safe bet and a chance to top of the group.

badMania
06-13-2007, 11:00 AM
The end of the tunnel is almost there......as the INA WD pair leads 11-4 at the interval of the rubber set.

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 11:01 AM
but i tink walking will be faster than crawling...:D
:D:D in this case...just run..damn it!!!:D 14-5 for INA

badMania
06-13-2007, 11:01 AM
5th gear now as the INA pair leads 16-6.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 11:02 AM
16-6 now... Let's get this over with, girls. Go back to your hotel, rest for a day. Watch the CHN, MAS, and ENG players play.... Take notes, then kick ass in the semis!

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 11:02 AM
maybe another 21-7 for ina..

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 11:03 AM
YES!!! 18-8...no turning back.....4-1 for INA then I go home now

badMania
06-13-2007, 11:03 AM
Nah...more points for HKG....the end is in sight now...

huangkwokhau
06-13-2007, 11:03 AM
good bye guys.......gotta go

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 11:04 AM
finally..
now DEN is almost out of the semis..

Krisna
06-13-2007, 11:04 AM
21-8! Great! Bring on DEN vs. KOR... Let's settle all the speculation...

badMania
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
The INA WD pair Greysia Polii/Lilyana Natsir beat the HKG pair in rubber-sets 21-7, 19-21, 21-8. INA beat HKG 4-1 and are through to the semi-finals.

Let's hope DEN beat KOR 3-2 with points from Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl, Peter Gade, and Tine Rasmussen.

nugroho
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
bye.. c u tomorrow

hcyong
06-13-2007, 11:05 AM
Div 1 Group B

Current position: KOR(2,7-3) INA(1,6-4) DEN(1,4-6) HKG(0,3-7)
Last ties of the group: KOR v DEN, INA bt HKG 4-1

KOR win - KOR(3,x-x) INA(2,x-x) DEN(1,x-x)

KOR lose
KOR 2-3 - INA(2,10-5) KOR(2,9-6) DEN(2,7-8)
KOR 1-4 - INA(2,10-5) DEN(2,8-7) KOR(2,8-7)
KOR 0-5 - INA(2,10-5) DEN(2,9-6) KOR(2,7-8)

If KOR loses, INA tops the group. DEN, having no hope of topping the group, must win by at least 4-1 to get the second spot.

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 11:07 AM
DEN need a 5-0 to make sure they are in semis..
if turning up 4-1, risky set winner will make it through..

Krisna
06-13-2007, 11:10 AM
Even though I think KOR will win, I hope DEN wins 4-1 or 5-0. This way, we can see at least one European nation in the semis. If CHN destroy MAS [as expected] tomorrow and ENG beat THA [with whatever score], then we shall see 2 European nation in the semis.

CHN vs. DEN :cool:
INA vs. ENG :cool:
...sounds very very good to me... :p Sounds good for the rest of Europe too... Let's get the overall prize money up, my Euro friends... ;)

alohio12
06-13-2007, 11:12 AM
Oh, true... no arguments on that point. That's why I just said that INA is a powerhouse, not a superpower...:o We know where we stand...:p


too bad america is not a powerhouse in BADMINTON :P

badMania
06-13-2007, 11:16 AM
The crucial tie....DEN vs KOR:
XD: Jens Eriksen/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl vs Han Sang Hoon/Lee Hyo Jung -- probably expected as KOR fields their winning combo against KOR. A smart move by DEN as well to switch Thomas Laybourn with Jens Eriksen. His height and powerful smashes will tilt the tie towards DEN. I hope they do win!

MS: Peter Gade vs Park Tae Sang -- a no-brainer....Peter Gade to win...and he HAS TO WIN!

WS: Tine Rasmussen vs Hwang Hye Youn -- a risky move for KOR to field Hwang, while Tine has been on form lately. The Danes to win....while KOR HAS TO WIN this one!

MD: Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen vs Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man -- if the tie is still not won yet by DEN, then this is a crucial match that BOTH needs to win. If DEN loses this one, then they can say bye2. I think the KOR pair has an edge here.

WD: Lena Frier-Kristensen/Helle Nielsen vs Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung -- again, a no-brainer. If the tie is split at 2-2, then KOR will top the group!

Overall, I think DEN will win 3-2 and INA to top the group, avoiding CHN in the semi-final on Saturday.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 11:22 AM
Overall, I think DEN will win 3-2 and INA to top the group, avoiding CHN in the semi-final on Saturday.

Not enough! Please please DEN win by 4-1 please please... :D

Badminton [and INA fans] need this:
CHN vs. DEN :cool:
INA vs. ENG :cool:
...semifinal lineup... ;)

badMania
06-13-2007, 11:29 AM
Interesting notes on the two crucial matches:
Tine Rasmussen (14) and Hwang Hye Youn (15) have never met each other before. Their world ranking is separated only by 1 place :eek:

Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen (11) also have never met their opponent Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man (9) and their world ranking is separated by 2 places.

So, this will point to even matchups in the 3rd and 4th matches later.

Krisna
06-13-2007, 11:38 AM
too bad america is not a powerhouse in BADMINTON :P

Roadmap to USA powerhouse status:
1. Hijack top singles players like Lin Dan & Xie Xinfang. Give them a quick Las Vegas wedding, give them a house in Beverly Hills, pay their bills for 30 years, give them one eco-friendly car each, a $200,000 per person guaranteed income etc. C'mon USA, you can afford this. :p
2. Hijack top doubles pairs like the English pairs, Emms-Robertson, Donna Kellogg, and their MD [Andrew Clark and his partner, I forgot]. We need caucasian faces too. The whole team cannot be Asian looking... :p
3. Hijack the top coaches: Tong Sinfu, Li Mao, Park Joo Bong, Rexy Mainaky, etc. Some would coach the elite team, some for the junior team. ;)
4. When the players in step 1 and step 2 are getting old or injured or cannot perform anymore, repeat step 1 and 2 with younger versions of those top players... :p


Essentially, USA should adopt the Singapore strategy, but with more $$$ and other incentives to get them to move...;) Hey, if anybody can do this, it is a country with a $ 11 Trillion++ annual GDP, which is the USA...

The USA is built based on the strength of its immigrants. So it makes sense to just do what the USA have been doing for 200-plus years. Ha ha ha...

nwy5633
06-13-2007, 11:42 AM
Roadmap to USA powerhouse status:
1. Hijack top singles players like Lin Dan & Xie Xinfang. Give them a quick Las Vegas wedding, give them a house in Beverly Hills, pay their bills for 30 years, give them one eco-friendly car each, a $200,000 per person guaranteed income etc. C'mon USA, you can afford this. :p
2. Hijack top doubles pairs like the English pairs, Emms-Robertson, Donna Kellogg, and their MD [Andrew Clark and his partner, I forgot]. We need caucasian faces too. The whole team cannot be Asian looking... :p
3. Hijack the top coaches: Tong Sinfu, Li Mao, Park Joo Bong, Rexy Mainaky, etc. Some would coach the elite team, some for the junior team. ;)
4. When the players in step 1 and step 2 are getting old or injured or cannot perform anymore, repeat step 1 and 2 with younger versions of those top players... :p


Essentially, USA should adopt the Singapore strategy, but with more $$$ and other incentives to get them to move...;) Hey, if anybody can do this, it is a country with a $ 11 Trillion++ annual GDP, which is the USA...

The USA is built based on the strength of its immigrants. So it makes sense to just do what the USA have been doing for 200-plus years. Ha ha ha...
i think the easiest way is take it from INA coz their player always run away to other countries...

robin7
06-13-2007, 11:55 AM
For those who know how to read chinese, this is how Master Li commented the coming match between China and Malaysia:

http://www.sinchew-i.com/breaking/index.phtml?artid=200706131799&sec=843

LYB's just too arrogant.

hcyong
06-13-2007, 11:56 AM
WS: Tine Rasmussen vs Hwang Hye Youn -- a risky move for KOR to field Hwang, while Tine has been on form lately. The Danes to win....while KOR HAS TO WIN this one!


Hwang is KOR's best player; to field a player other than Hwang would BE the risky move. I think this match is 50-50.

hcyong
06-13-2007, 11:59 AM
DEN need a 5-0 to make sure they are in semis..
if turning up 4-1, risky set winner will make it through..

If DEN wins 4-1, they will be second - regardless of sets won-lost - because they would have defeated KOR in head-to-head.

badMania
06-13-2007, 12:12 PM
Hwang is KOR's best player; to field a player other than Hwang would BE the risky move. I think this match is 50-50.

What I mean is Hwang hasnt been fielded before, while Tine already has a feel of the court and will stand an advantage.

bananaboy
06-13-2007, 12:14 PM
LYB's just too arrogant.

Why? He is just expressing his mind, and stating the obvious. So, is Rexy arrogant as well, since he said he wanted KKK/TBH to be world #1 by the end of the year?

Seriously, for a team which lost to England in this Sudirman cup... what chance does it have against China?(not just winning 1 out of 5 matches, but actually winning the tie at the end)

XD = 99% China
WS = > 80% China
XD = 99.99% China

MS, and MD is not even relevant in this equation, and it is not like Malaysia has a huge chance of winning those two anyways.

nugroho
06-13-2007, 12:17 PM
calm down dude.... it's just an oppinionof one of us ;)

nugroho
06-13-2007, 12:45 PM
Kor just take the 1st set in XD 21-14

alohio12
06-13-2007, 12:48 PM
Roadmap to USA powerhouse status:
1. Hijack top singles players like Lin Dan & Xie Xinfang. Give them a quick Las Vegas wedding, give them a house in Beverly Hills, pay their bills for 30 years, give them one eco-friendly car each, a $200,000 per person guaranteed income etc. C'mon USA, you can afford this. :p
2. Hijack top doubles pairs like the English pairs, Emms-Robertson, Donna Kellogg, and their MD [Andrew Clark and his partner, I forgot]. We need caucasian faces too. The whole team cannot be Asian looking... :p
3. Hijack the top coaches: Tong Sinfu, Li Mao, Park Joo Bong, Rexy Mainaky, etc. Some would coach the elite team, some for the junior team. ;)
4. When the players in step 1 and step 2 are getting old or injured or cannot perform anymore, repeat step 1 and 2 with younger versions of those top players... :p


Essentially, USA should adopt the Singapore strategy, but with more $$$ and other incentives to get them to move...;) Hey, if anybody can do this, it is a country with a $ 11 Trillion++ annual GDP, which is the USA...

The USA is built based on the strength of its immigrants. So it makes sense to just do what the USA have been doing for 200-plus years. Ha ha ha...

haha yes we could do this, but...that would be cheating. i would rather America breed their own players instead of just simply recruiting players from other countries, but that may be asking too much. maybe we're just better off doing what Singapore is doing. haha yes we obviously have money. btw, the correct word here is "hire" or even "bribe" but not "hijack." that word is used for objects like planes, not people. yes, we could technically spend our money on getting these top notch players to represent the US, but all of our money is being squandered on the stupid war in Iraq, thanks to our !@#$%^&*() president, but we won't get into politics right now XP.

Loopy
06-13-2007, 01:23 PM
KO - RE - A ! ta-dam-ta-dam-dam!
KO - RE - A !

nugroho
06-13-2007, 01:30 PM
huh... denmark just lost the first game... they should fight hard for the next 3...

virusvoodoo
06-13-2007, 01:36 PM
The scratch pairing of Han, Sang Hoon & Lee, Hyo Jung is quite good considering they beat the INA pairing of Nova Widianto & Lilyana Natsir and now Jens Eriksen & Kamilla Rytter-Juhl

bananaboy
06-13-2007, 01:39 PM
As much as I want Denmark to win, but realistically speaking, only Peter Gade is the hot favorite to win his match as far as Denmark is concerned.

XD = Korea won it as we all found out by now
MD = Lars/Jonas are not close to their prime any more.
WD = Korea pretty much has that in the bag
WS = at most 50/50 if not worse

Forget about Indo topping the group... they should just get ready to lose to the almighty China... Repeat of Sudirman Cup 2005 final (CHN 3 : 0 IND):cool:

virusvoodoo
06-13-2007, 01:40 PM
Yeah if Denmark wishes to be in the semi-finals then they must win the remaining matches!

Peter GADE at the moment is thrashing Park, Tae Sang with a score of 12-4.

edwin
06-13-2007, 01:42 PM
Roadmap to USA powerhouse status:
1. Hijack top singles players like Lin Dan & Xie Xinfang. Give them a quick Las Vegas wedding, give them a house in Beverly Hills, pay their bills for 30 years, give them one eco-friendly car each, a $200,000 per person guaranteed income etc. C'mon USA, you can afford this. :p
2. Hijack top doubles pairs like the English pairs, Emms-Robertson, Donna Kellogg, and their MD [Andrew Clark and his partner, I forgot]. We need caucasian faces too. The whole team cannot be Asian looking... :p
3. Hijack the top coaches: Tong Sinfu, Li Mao, Park Joo Bong, Rexy Mainaky, etc. Some would coach the elite team, some for the junior team. ;)
4. When the players in step 1 and step 2 are getting old or injured or cannot perform anymore, repeat step 1 and 2 with younger versions of those top players... :p



Good idea, but in point 1, omit the guranteed income part. Otherwise, the hijacked players and coaches will be too preoccupied with enjoying luxurious life styles and they won't focus any time on serious training :)

bobace
06-13-2007, 01:56 PM
LYB's just too arrogant.

If you call LYB's comment arrogant, I can frankly say your head coach is a daydreamer.

what is the chance you can beat China? 50%(MS)X50%(MD)X20%(WS)=5%, I have already maximized your chances since actually MS is less than 50% and WS is less than 20% as you all know it. However, you daydreamers still talk about the chance, even b4 going to the tournament. You wasted your chance of having a very good draw to be able in the semi for the first time which you might not be able to be given 2nd time. If you are content with that, you should have beaten England and make it. However, the head coach boasted to be challenge China in the final which bringing too much pressure to the team. We all know that Malay players fail when they face pressure, especially in the team event.

LYB is right though you may put it more diplomatic way. In current situation, China can have two teams and both in the Final!

kwun
06-13-2007, 02:00 PM
anyone following DEN vs. KOR?

PG vs. Park Tae Sing.

PG took first game 21-16, but losing on the 2nd game 2-10

kwun
06-13-2007, 02:09 PM
PG lost 2nd game 4-21. 3rd game coming up.

virusvoodoo
06-13-2007, 02:11 PM
Peter GADE had a good lead with 12-4 but Park Tae Sang caught up but finally losing to PG with a score of 16-21.

However, Park Tae Sang came back strongly in the second set, beating the former world number one with a score of 21-4!

kwun
06-13-2007, 02:13 PM
very strange scoreline. now PG is leading 9-1 on the 3rd game... hm..?

virusvoodoo
06-13-2007, 02:23 PM
And Peter wraps up with 21-6 in the rubber.

kwun
06-13-2007, 02:25 PM
so DEN 1-1 KOR.

this is getting interesting. WS coming up. i wonder why KOR is not fielding Lee Yun Hua?

yannie
06-13-2007, 02:26 PM
Kom så DANMARK!!! Hehehe.. Denmark must beat Korea!!!

I just talked to Alvent.. He's feeling happy cuz won..
They must pay for internet connection in their hotel rooms, so 6 days didn't online.. Hahaha.. finally they've found wireless connection on the stairs on 3rd floor.. Lucky Alvent is staying at 3rd floor too.. So free connection, but bad signal.. Keeps disconnecting.. Faint..

bobace
06-13-2007, 02:40 PM
Denmark cannot beat Kor. So the semi line-up will be
CHN vs IND
KOR vs ENG
Another CHN vs KOR final.

badboypedi
06-13-2007, 02:45 PM
go tine, make it!!!!

kwun
06-13-2007, 02:46 PM
Tine took first game, 21-18. i don't see why DEN cannot beat KOR, looks like 50/50 to me.

madbad
06-13-2007, 02:47 PM
Very odd scoreline in the PG v PTS match. PG had ahuge lead in the 1st game and held on to win 21-16. Then he took a siesta and got blasted 21-4 (:eek:). I've never seen a top player lose by that much. He then turns the tables on the Korean and whacks him (as only Tony Soprano would) 21-6. That is one bizarre scoreline. Question–what was PG doing in the 2nd game? Was it this...:D:D:D

kwun
06-13-2007, 02:50 PM
Tine leading 8-1 on 2nd game.

somebody turn off the A/C!!

xt6666
06-13-2007, 02:51 PM
Tine won!!!

So it's 2:1 now...

MD is perhaps 50/50

So who will be 1st and who will be second in the group, if DEN wins 3-2?!?

virusvoodoo
06-13-2007, 03:09 PM
Let's Go JR & LP...let's go!

badboypedi
06-13-2007, 03:10 PM
is the livescore frozen again??

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:11 PM
Let's Go JR & LP...let's go!

JONAS, LARS!!!!!
JONAS, LARS!!!!!

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:12 PM
this is a crucial match as i believe DEN is weaker on WD.

xt6666
06-13-2007, 03:15 PM
I ask again: Who will proceed to the Semi final if DEN wins 3:2?!?


EDIT: Live Stream is working again...


EDIT 2: Or does DEN have to win 4-1?!?


EDIT 3: DEN took the first Game 21-18

badboypedi
06-13-2007, 03:15 PM
aaah now it works :)

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:33 PM
I ask again: Who will proceed to the Semi final if DEN wins 3:2?!?


EDIT: Live Stream is working again...


EDIT 2: Or does DEN have to win 4-1?!?


EDIT 3: DEN took the first Game 21-18

A 3-2 DEN win is not enough. They have to win 4-1 to overtake the Koreans for 2nd place

With INA's 4-1 win over HK, DEN cannot take top spot with any result.

Even though KOR can afford to lose 3-2, they will want to win the tie and secure 1st to avoid meeting CHN in the SF

bobace
06-13-2007, 03:34 PM
[quote=xt6666;594009]I ask again: Who will proceed to the Semi final if DEN wins 3:2?!?

If DEN beat KOR 3:2, Indo and Kor will be in the semi with Ind top the group. If DEN beat KOR 4:1, Ind will still be top, KOR and DEN need to calculate games won or even points won.

Wong8Egg
06-13-2007, 03:36 PM
Anyone know why Lee Yong Dae is not sent to play MD???

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:37 PM
here is the break down so far:

if DEN lose, then KOR will have:

3-2 vs DEN
3-2 vs INA
4-1 vs HKG

10 wins 5 lose

INA have:

4-1 DEN
2-3 KOR
4-1 HKG

10 wins 5 lose

but we have a 2 way tie and KOR beat INA before, so KOR 1st, INA 2nd.

if DEN wins 3-2, then KOR will have:

2-3 vs DEN
3-2 vs INA
4-1 vs HKG

total 9 wins 6 lose

INA have

10 wins 5 lose

DEN have

3-2 vs KOR
1-4 vs INA
3-2 vs HKG

7 wins 8 lose

we have a 3 way tie, but INA has more matches won, so INA 1st, KOR 2nd.

so no matter what happens, INA and KOR will advance.

what matters is who will face CHN and who will face ENG. KOR must win if they want to face ENG instead of CHN in the semi final.

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:37 PM
Danes close the gap to 13-16.

bobace
06-13-2007, 03:39 PM
here is the break down so far:

if DEN lose, then KOR will have:

3-2 vs DEN
3-2 vs INA
4-1 vs HKG

10 wins 5 lose

INA have:

4-1 DEN
2-3 KOR
4-1 HKG

10 wins 5 lose

but we have a 2 way tie and KOR beat INA before, so KOR 1st, INA 2nd.

then KOR will be 1st, INA 2nd

if DEN wins 3-2, then KOR will have:

2-3 vs DEN
3-2 vs INA
4-1 vs HKG

total 9 wins 6 lose

INA have

10 wins 5 lose

DEN have

3-2 vs KOR
1-4 vs INA
3-2 vs HKG

7 wins 8 lose

we have a 3 way tie, but INA has more matches won, so INA 1st, KOR 2nd.

so no matter what happens, INA and KOR will advance.

what matters is who will face CHN and who will face ENG. KOR must win if they want to face ENG instead of CHN in the semi final.

you forget to calculate if Den beat Kor 4:1 then both have 8-7, need games or even points in the equation.

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:40 PM
here is the break down so far:

if DEN lose, then KOR will have:

3-2 vs DEN
3-2 vs INA
4-1 vs HKG

10 wins 5 lose

INA have:

4-1 DEN
2-3 KOR
4-1 HKG

10 wins 5 lose

but we have a 2 way tie and KOR beat INA before, so KOR 1st, INA 2nd.

then KOR will be 1st, INA 2nd

if DEN wins 3-2, then KOR will have:

2-3 vs DEN
3-2 vs INA
4-1 vs HKG

total 9 wins 6 lose

INA have

10 wins 5 lose

DEN have

3-2 vs KOR
1-4 vs INA
3-2 vs HKG

7 wins 8 lose

we have a 3 way tie, but INA has more matches won, so INA 1st, KOR 2nd.

so no matter what happens, INA and KOR will advance.

what matters is who will face CHN and who will face ENG. KOR must win if they want to face ENG instead of CHN in the semi final.

You didn't figure on DEN winning 4-1 in which case they qualify ahead of KOR based on head to head result (GF and GA are equal)

JoeM.
06-13-2007, 03:40 PM
If you want to see an exciting tie, watch luxembourg vs. south africa :P

2-2 and luxembourg leading 11-10 in rubber set in XD

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:41 PM
DEN pull ahead 18-17

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:41 PM
you forget to calculate if Den beat Kor 4:1 then both have 8-7, need games or even points in the equation.

thanks for pointing that out!

yes, my mistake. DEN still have chance to advance to SF.

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:42 PM
thanks for pointing that out!

yes, my mistake. DEN still have chance to advance to SF.

SO JONAS/LARS!! FIGHT!!! wins the match and hope for WD to win!

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:42 PM
KOReans turn to edge ahead but DEN pull even 19-19

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:43 PM
19-19.

20-19 DEN...this is going to be close!!!

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:43 PM
JR!!! LP!!!!

get the last point!!!

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:43 PM
DEN at match point and seal the win! Great job LP and JR!!!

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:44 PM
YES!!!

Jonas Rasmussen / Lars Paaske (DEN) beat Lee Jae Jin / Hwang Ji Man (KOR) - 21-18 / 21-19

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:45 PM
With that point, INA has officially won the group and avoids CHN. I really hope MAS makes it through as I want to see another of those classic bitter neighbour battles.

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:45 PM
now comes the deciding match WD (yet again!!!) this match, as pointed out above, will determine whether KOR or DEN will advance to meet CHN in the SF.

ladies and gentlemen, sit tight and enjoy the match.

i have to say though, i am not having a lot of confidence on DEN on this one.

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:46 PM
Both KOR and DEN fighting for their lives. WD now–winner moves on, loser's out!

bobace
06-13-2007, 03:46 PM
YES!!!

Jonas Rasmussen / Lars Paaske (DEN) beat Lee Jae Jin / Hwang Ji Man (KOR) - 21-18 / 21-19

so you are a happy man now:))). Denmark is too old now though I would like to see Lindan vs Gade again.

kwun
06-13-2007, 03:47 PM
so you are a happy man now:))). Denmark is too old now though I would like to see Lindan vs Gade again.

yes. JR is a good friend so i am naturally happy to see him win!

yannie
06-13-2007, 03:48 PM
Yippieeeeeeee happy for Denmark!!!!! Go Lena/Kamilla too!

bobace
06-13-2007, 03:51 PM
Why Denmark did not produce young blood recently?

keanny
06-13-2007, 03:53 PM
guys!! sorry to interrupt! can someone give me the link to any website that is providing the live webcast right now?? sorry if this is not the right thread but it seems that everybody is here right now.. im so desperate to watch the match -.- thxxx!!!

bananaboy
06-13-2007, 03:54 PM
With that point, INA has officially won the group and avoids CHN. I really hope MAS makes it through as I want to see another of those classic bitter neighbour battles.

This is definitely wrong.:p

If Korea wins the WD(final match), then Korea will proceed to semi as the #1 from group 1B with all 3 matches won (against HK, Ind, Den).

bobace
06-13-2007, 03:54 PM
Yippieeeeeeee happy for Denmark!!!!! Go Lena/Kamilla too!

I am afraid to say the chance is slimmer than MAS into the semi. KOR WD is 2nd only to CHN for a long time. DEN MD lost to HK was the upset caused.

madbad
06-13-2007, 03:56 PM
This is definitely wrong.:p

If Korea wins the WD(final match), then Korea will proceed to semi as the #1 from group 1B with all 3 matches won (against HK, Ind, Den).

How can KOR beat DEN when the score already stands at DEN 3 KOR 1?;)

bobace
06-13-2007, 03:57 PM
This is definitely wrong.:p

If Korea wins the WD(final match), then Korea will proceed to semi as the #1 from group 1B with all 3 matches won (against HK, Ind, Den).
Think it twice b4 speak so confidently:). IND has won the group for sure. The WD can only decide who join IND in the semi.

bananaboy
06-13-2007, 03:57 PM
Denmark is too old now though I would like to see Lindan vs Gade again.

As a Gade fan, I much rather not see another Lin Dan vs Gade match... Reason being is Gade has only had 1 victory over Lin Dan in the past few years, and now that while LD is still in tip-top form, the same can't be said for Gade... and I definitely don't want to see a terrible head to head record against Lin Dan by the time Gade retires after OG 08(not that it is not bad enough now).:crying:

bananaboy
06-13-2007, 03:59 PM
Think it twice b4 speak so confidently:). IND has won the group for sure. The WD can only decide who join IND in the semi.

How can Indo be first of the group, if Korea has not lost a tie yet??? Ind lost to Korea, and you are telling me that the loser of one match can become the #1, and the team which won all ties become 2nd place... What the heck is going on? Only total matches won and loss count??? that is so silly!!!:confused:

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:00 PM
Well the Danish women are keeping it close down 9-10

bobace
06-13-2007, 04:00 PM
As a Gade fan, I much rather not see another Lin Dan vs Gade match... Reason being is Gade has only had 1 victory over Lin Dan in the past few years, and now that while LD is still in tip-top form, the same can't be said for Gade... and I definitely don't want to see a terrible head to head record against Lin Dan by the time Gade retires after OG 08(not that it is not bad enough now).:crying:

but any of the CHN vs DEN match will be attractive?

nugroho
06-13-2007, 04:02 PM
wahh... yuppie.... INA topping the group..... that's make my night alot better.... hihihi.... thanks to denmark.....

bobace
06-13-2007, 04:03 PM
Well the Danish women are keeping it close down 9-10
won't be long, i am afraid. Come on, Denish girls. Like to see 2 Euro teams in the semi.

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:03 PM
I am afraid to say the chance is slimmer than MAS into the semi. KOR WD is 2nd only to CHN for a long time. DEN MD lost to HK was the upset caused.

i don't know.... i think the chance of MAS into SF is very slim too.

scorline now is:

DEN 11-13 KOR

no clear winner yet.

bananaboy
06-13-2007, 04:04 PM
How can KOR beat DEN when the score already stands at DEN 3 KOR 1?;)

My bad... I forgot that WS was won by DEN...:eek: I am such a moron.:p
I always expected Korea to dominate in the women division(not including China)...:p

Well... then I am cheering for LET'S GO DENMARK, LET'S GO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:D

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 04:04 PM
what's the score in WD?
my livescore is not working properly.

keanny
06-13-2007, 04:05 PM
hehe.. lol! so INA got the first place in the group? sweeetttt!!! so INA will fight against either MAS or ENG right? yeah..! boo.. im so wanna watch MAS vs CHINA. it'd be awesome! but i have class =(

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
i don't know.... i think the chance of MAS into SF is very slim too.

scorline now is:

DEN 11-13 KOR

no clear winner yet.

How do you think the MAS team feels now? They had the opportunity to control their destiny and they blew it. Now it's out of their hands... it must be a kinda helpless feeling wishing for their neighbours to beat their former colonial masters.

bobace
06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
what's the score in WD?
my livescore is not working properly.

12:16 (den vs kor)

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:06 PM
Korea girls stepping on the gas pedal

DEN 13-17 KOR

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:07 PM
Oh no, KOR accelerated ahead 18-13

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 04:07 PM
thanks, i think it looks bleak for DEN, can't see them winning WD.

keanny
06-13-2007, 04:07 PM
hey so what if KOR lost to DEN by 2-3 ? who'll go to the semi ?

gary_seeker
06-13-2007, 04:07 PM
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/PDF%20-%20Regulations/214%20SUDIRMAN%20CUP%20REGULATIONS.pdf


5.5 Ranking order in the sub-groups


5.5.1 If two teams have won the same number of ties, the ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.


5.5.2 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties, ranking will be decided by the total number of matches won. If this leaves two teams equal, ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.


5.5.3 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties and the same number of matches, ranking will be decided by the difference between total games won and total games lost, with greater difference ranked higher. If this leaves two teams equal, ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.


5.5.4 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties and the same number of matches and have the same difference between total games won and total games lost, ranking will be decided by the difference between total points won and total points lost, with greater difference ranked higher. If this leaves two teams equal, ranking will be decided by the result of the tie between them.


5.5.5 If three or more teams have won the same number of ties and the same number of matches, have the same difference between total games won and total games lost, and have the same difference between total points won and total points lost, ranking will be decided by drawing lots.


Assuming today Korea lost 2-3 to DEN.
Wait since Denmark win the match. So Korea, INA and DEN will all share same ties right ? which was 2 win and 1 loss. So we use rules number 5.2 directly which means Ina have 10 win (4 from HK, 4 from DEN and 2 from korea), Korea have 9 wins ( 3 from INA, 4 from HK, 2 from Denmark) while Denmark have (3 from Korea, 1 from INA, 3 from HK). So it means INA will be on top of the group and Korea will be second right ?

Correct me if I'm wrong please, my english isn't that good so I might have misinterprets the rules.

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:08 PM
hey so what if KOR lost to DEN by 2-3 ? who'll go to the semi ?


Assuming today Korea lost 2-3 to DEN.
Wait since Denmark win the match. So Korea, INA and DEN will all share same ties right ? which was 2 win and 1 loss. So we use rules number 5.2 directly which means Ina have 10 win (4 from HK, 4 from DEN and 2 from korea), Korea have 9 wins ( 3 from INA, 4 from HK, 2 from Denmark) while Denmark have (3 from Korea, 1 from INA, 3 from HK). So it means INA will be on top of the group and Korea will be second right ?

Correct me if I'm wrong please, my english isn't that good so I might have misinterprets the rules.

please read from post #426 onwards:

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44675&page=24

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:09 PM
Assuming today Korea lost 2-3 to DEN.
Wait since Denmark win the match. So Korea, INA and DEN will all share same ties right ? which was 2 win and 1 loss. So we use rules number 5.2 directly which means Ina have 10 win (4 from HK, 4 from DEN and 2 from korea), Korea have 9 wins ( 3 from INA, 4 from HK, 2 from Denmark) while Denmark have (3 from Korea, 1 from INA, 3 from HK). So it means INA will be on top of the group and Korea will be second right ?

Correct me if I'm wrong please, my english isn't that good so I might have misinterprets the rules.

To cut a long story short, you are correct :)

gary_seeker
06-13-2007, 04:10 PM
kwun sory for double posting. Just curious since someone said KOR will be in lead instead of INA

bobace
06-13-2007, 04:10 PM
Assuming today Korea lost 2-3 to DEN.
Wait since Denmark win the match. So Korea, INA and DEN will all share same ties right ? which was 2 win and 1 loss. So we use rules number 5.2 directly which means Ina have 10 win (4 from HK, 4 from DEN and 2 from korea), Korea have 9 wins ( 3 from INA, 4 from HK, 2 from Denmark) while Denmark have (3 from Korea, 1 from INA, 3 from HK). So it means INA will be on top of the group and Korea will be second right ?

Correct me if I'm wrong please, my english isn't that good so I might have misinterprets the rules.
you are absolutely right!

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:10 PM
thanks, i think it looks bleak for DEN, can't see them winning WD.

yes. i too am pessimistic about DEN winning. but it is always worth a try, it is better to go down fighting than to lose without a fight.

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:11 PM
Danish girls are not giving up. they are coming back from 16-20 to 18-20, can they get 2 more points???

GO DENMARK!!!!!!

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:12 PM
KOR at game point 20-19. DEN has saved 3 game points

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Danish girls are not giving up. they are coming back from 16-20 to 18-20, can they get 2 more points???

GO DENMARK!!!!!!

19-20.

now THAT IS FIGHTING SPIRIT!!!!

GO DENMARK!! force deuce and wins the game!

nugroho
06-13-2007, 04:12 PM
Nice nice.... hey keany .. have you got the link to the livescore already? otherwise .. here you go ......
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/draws.aspx?id=15280

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:13 PM
OH!!!!!!

DEN 19-21 KOR

so close, what a pity.

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:13 PM
Oops, KOR take it 21-19. Advantage Korea

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 04:13 PM
yes. i too am pessimistic about DEN winning. but it is always worth a try, it is better to go down fighting than to lose without a fight.


yup, agreed, it's better to lose a close game than to win by a wide margin!
:cool:

keanny
06-13-2007, 04:14 PM
yeah i got it thx anyway!! i thought u guys r watching it live right now instead of just livescore-ing lol.. this is awesome.. go Danish!!

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:14 PM
yup, agreed, it's better to lose a close game than to win by a wide margin!
:cool:

i cannot agree more! :D

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:16 PM
I really wonder how nervous both sides were and if it relected in the quality of play. I mean the more fancied Korean girls nearly gave it away.

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:17 PM
DEN off the blocks like a rocket up 3-0

bobace
06-13-2007, 04:17 PM
Anybody watching TV? Which channel?

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:19 PM
I really wonder how nervous both sides were and if it relected in the quality of play. I mean the more fancied Korean girls nearly gave it away.

i hope we will see a video of this soon.

but it won't be anything like a live broadcast. :(

there is the weight of a whole nation on each of the two pairs right now.

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:19 PM
Looks like DEN is carrying momentum from the end of the first game. Distancing themelves 6-1

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:19 PM
DEN girls races up to a 6-1 lead!

6-2.

keanny
06-13-2007, 04:19 PM
wow it's 6-1 now for the Danish girls.. cool..!

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:21 PM
DEN maintaining their lead 8-4. I expect to see a Korean surge anytime soon.

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 04:23 PM
they seem to like playing games in the 2nd set, prolly conserving enery for the final game.
though i've never really understood that tactic.

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:23 PM
DEN reach the break comfortably ahead 11-6. Maybe the Koreans are throwing away the 2nd game to conserve for the rubber

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:25 PM
Hello! Here they come DEN 11-9 KOR

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 04:26 PM
KOR to win 21-17.

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:26 PM
KOR have 5 straight points and level it at 11-11

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:28 PM
KOR pulled even 12-12!

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:29 PM
DEN finally relinquish their big lead, down 12-14

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:31 PM
Koreans really motoring along now 16-12

madbad
06-13-2007, 04:32 PM
Can DEN make one last push, their tournament lives depend on it. KOR 18-13

kwun
06-13-2007, 04:32 PM
DEN 13-17 KOR now.

momentum has drastically shifted over to the KOR side.

13-18

Dreamzz
06-13-2007, 04:33 PM
the end is nigh, i guess this means INA top the group with KOR 2nd?