2007 Sudirman Cup – Day 4 - Thursday

[BMcentral]

as long as MAS did not lost by 5-0, it is a accomplishment.

[Linus]

ZN leads 18:15.

[BMcentral]

ZN pulling away, i am assuming the 2nd set is going to be a piece of cake.

[vching]

18-15 to zhang ning

[Jimmy_Goh]

It's 16:14 now to ZN.

Madbad, looks like Anita may take more than 30 points!
Go, Anita, Go, go take 1 set off the grand old lady of China . .. . urrr, actually I quite like ZN too.
What the hack . . . . Go, MAS, Go

[Misty100]

As long as Anita can gather more than 20 points, she is already a winner in Madbad's eyes. So go girl, take a few more points.

[madbad]

I'm shocked that Anita is even within 10 points of ZN

[hcyong]

Like Tan/Woon, Anita is proving tenacious. Not that she will win, but she is fighting with all she got.

[Linus]

Zn won the 1st set 21:16.

[vching]

21-16 zhang ning

[madbad]

21-16 to the Badminton Queen. Now if she wins 21-4 in the 2nd, that would validate my prediction :D:D

[hcyong]

In short order, we will be seeing Cai/Fu v KKK/TBH

[BMcentral]

Good job anita, try to get double digit score in the second set and we will call you a winner.

[Misty100]

Another 5 points in the 2nd set will make you a winner, Anita... C'mon, prove Madbad wrong! LOL

[bidapower]

come on anita... win 2nd and 3rd set!!!

[niezzam6177]

21-16 to the Badminton Queen. Now if she wins 21-4 in the 2nd, that would validate my prediction :D:D

My prediction might be true...not more than 42 point for ZN, :D

Go Anita!!

[madbad]

ZN 2-2 AK. Only 2 more points to be declared a winner

[indra]

MAS juniors have a bright future...They will certainly come back and make an impact next SC...for sure.....

AGree...fielding juniors against the world-class mighty China team is the right decision by the Mlaysian team...particularly in the areas in which Malaysia is most unlikely to win...This will serve as a very valuable and unforgetable lesson for juniors.....I am sure the Malaysian team was fully aware in advance that it would be almost " a tall order" to defeat China this time...However, Malaysia is also smart to use this event as a moment to gain experience for its juniors in XD, WS, and WD, but not in the MD and MS...

I guess the peak of the match will be the fight between KKK/TBH vs Fu/Cai...The fight will certainly be very intersting...I am very sure there will be nothing to lose on both parts...so this is the real fight...For this fight, I am behind the Malaysian pair to win. Regarding LCW vs LD, This one is also very intereting....I am feeling that since Lin Dan got injured a couple months ago, his performance has not been as aggresive as he was before. LD is still strong but not as strong as he was 6 months ago. On the other hand, LCW's recent victory in Ina's open after defeating his arch-rival BCL straight sets and Chen Hong also in straights has boosted his motivation and self-confidence. I am feeling that LCW is going back on his track now....Again, LCW vs LD...I think LCW will win....

SO the score China vs Malsyia will be 3 - 2 in my opinion.

[phaarix]

Not bad MAS WS :). Hope I haven't spoken too soon...

[Linus]

Signing off for the day now.
It looks like Malaysia young guns are giving a good account for themseleves. Can't wait till the ENG/THA match starts. All our Malaysia friends out there may scream their hearts out! Take care yourself, Angela!!!

[BMcentral]

SO the score China vs Malsyia will be 3 - 2 in my opinion.

4-1 is good enough for MAS to celebrate.

at least they are the first one to beat a CHN player.

[xymaerts]

unless miracle lah..

come on anita... win 2nd and 3rd set!!!

[xymaerts]

hmn..ya ya.. don't 0-5 enough already

4-1 is good enough for MAS to celebrate.

at least they are the first one to beat a CHN player.

[madbad]

ZN trying her best to prove what a smart ass I am. Anita has reached 20!

[vching]

unless miracle lah..
Quote:
Originally Posted by bidapower http://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/showthread.php?p=594699#post594699)
come on anita... win 2nd and 3rd set!!!


best case scenario we can only hope that anita wins one of the sets (2nd)

[madbad]

ZN up 11-4 at the interval. After the 1st game, she decided to play right handed :D:D:D

[Misty100]

Any latest updates please? What's the score now? Thanks.

[BMcentral]

Both teams are not in the same level. MAS male players might put up a fight, but their female players are outclassed and outgunned.

the first step is not to beat CHN or what, it is to build up their own confidence and develop youngsters.

at this point, no one (i mean NO ONE) can beat CHN when both male/female players are combined for a team.

[Jimmy_Goh]

Signing off for the day now.
It looks like Malaysia young guns are giving a good account for themseleves. Can't wait till the ENG/THA match starts. All our Malaysia friends out there may scream their hearts out! Take care yourself, Angela!!!
Am signing off for the day too.
Hope to catch more action later.\
Go, MAS, Go
Go, Thai, Go

[LI De Quan]

21-16 to the Badminton Queen. Now if she wins 21-4 in the 2nd, that would validate my prediction :D:D
Badminton Queen=GAO Ling(I think,:D)

[madbad]

Congrats Anita, with your 5th point you have topped the 20 point barrier. Collect your prize at the door please:D

[xymaerts]

The F1 car had left Anita far behind..

[madbad]

Badminton Queen=GAO Ling(I think,:D)

You're right. How about Singles Badminton Queen for ZN? ;)

[BMcentral]

The F1 car had left Anita far behind..
it's like a brand new BMW and a 20 year old chevy....

oh common, we are talking about WR1 vs WR 10000

[madbad]

ZN 15-9 AK. Going through the motions it seems.

[madbad]

ZN up 19-10. Almost there.

[Misty100]

So true, World No.1 vs World unknown... How can anyone compare?

[madbad]

Once ZN picked up on Anita's style, there was no stopping her. ZN wins 21-16, 21-10

CHINA 2 MALAYSIA 0

[xymaerts]

no miracle AGAIN

CHN 2 MAS 0

[vching]

now for the KKK TBH win....
hehehehehehehe

[Misty100]

What's coming up after WS?

[BMcentral]

Anita PWNED.....

oh well good job young girl.

[madbad]

The grudge match CY/FHF v KKK/TBH

[indra]

next KKK/TBH vs Fu/Cai

KKK/TBH leading 9-3, go..go...KKK/TBH

[BMcentral]

now for the KKK TBH win....
hehehehehehehe

if they didn't, this is over, MAS is out.

[spchu]

The crunch match is up next. Do not let us down again KKK and TBH.

[bidapower]

let win md, ms and wd!!!! come on malaysia!!!!

[vching]

next KKK/TBH vs Fu/Cai

KKK/TBH leading 9-3, go..go...KKK/TBH


huh? start already?

[xymaerts]

Is after office hour. I am going home now.. I had ask my sister to record for me already...good luck and go go go KKK/TBH

[matt_att]

miracle or not will know soon ...............

[BMcentral]

Is this game the win or go home match for MAS or what?

is there any hope for MAS to advance to semi final?

[spchu]

next KKK/TBH vs Fu/Cai

KKK/TBH leading 9-3, go..go...KKK/TBH


Huh??? Where he got this score from?

[madbad]

CY/FHF are in top form right now and it appears they have figured out KKK/TBH's style of play. Let's see if Rexy (or other coach) has installed a new strategy to confuse the CHN duo

[vellin]

Go Koo/Tan.. Hope they can bt Cai/Fu and get a point for MAS..

[bobace]

let win md, ms and wd!!!! come on malaysia!!!!

Daydreaming. Can MAS win WD?

[madbad]

MAS doesn't need to win the tie. Just get a point or two and pray hard for Thailand to beat England

[BMcentral]

Daydreaming. Can MAS win WD?
i am about to say that.

WD? MAS?

you must be high on something, pass around the weed bro.

[robin7]

MD just started.....1-1

[madbad]

Early on it's CHN 2-1 MAS

[Misty100]

Is this game the win or go home match for MAS or what?

is there any hope for MAS to advance to semi final?

Nay, CHN had been unbeaten, winning all their matches 5:0 since the last SC back in Beijing. The only point here is to break their treshold here, taking a poin or 2 from them.

[madbad]

i am about to say that.

WD? MAS?

you must be high on something, pass around the weed bro.

well maybe not. Look and see who they are playing...

[madbad]

CHN maintain the upperhand 4-3

[shyeling]

gambate kkk-tbh..
win at least 1 point for m'sia....

[robin7]

i am about to say that.

WD? MAS?

you must be high on something, pass around the weed bro.

At this point, CHN can win 5-0, 4-1 or 3-2....

2-3 MAS considered good already...

[tutu_h]

as long as KKK performs well, they will stand a chance. TBH is always consistent

[madbad]

CHN 7-5 MAS. 2 points in a row for CHN

[indra]

I have a feeling KKK/TBH will win ....

[robin7]

CHN 8-5....smash a lot

[madbad]

I have a feeling KKK/TBH will win ....

Oh man, you've cursed them now :D:D

[phaarix]

Erk China just shot off to 10-5...

[Misty100]

I think THA is more contented to win the playoff for relegation. They seem to have a better chance to win against HKG. So MAS can kiss goodbye to any semi hope. Afterall, 5th & 7th placing has no signaficance, no BIG rewards and money to take home.

[madbad]

CHN ha reeled off 5 points in a row and lead 10-5, now 10-6. 6 of the 10 points have come from smash winners (no surprise)

Interval CHN 11-6 MAS

[robin7]

CHN 11-6......7 smashes 1 net play, 3 errors...CHN in good form

[madbad]

CHN continues to roll up 12-6

[BMcentral]

I have a feeling KKK/TBH will win ....
jinx:D

haha..............

[robin7]

Game resumed CHN 12-7......MAS jia you

[BMcentral]

What does it take for MAS to advance? beat china or waiting for Thailand to lose?

if MAS lost to CHN, can they still advance?

[robin7]

Oh MAS down 8-15

[indra]

What does it take for MAS to advance? beat china or waiting for Thailand to lose?

if MAS lost to CHN, can they still advance?

Yes...advance to Sudirman Cup 2009:D

[CaesarZ]

china 17-8 mas

mas losing first set.

[robin7]

What happened to MAS pairs? 8-18

[hcyong]

I think THA is more contented to win the playoff for relegation. They seem to have a better chance to win against HKG. So MAS can kiss goodbye to any semi hope. Afterall, 5th & 7th placing has no signaficance, no BIG rewards and money to take home.

If don't have to fight for relegation, even better, isn't it?

[xt6666]

CY/FH give them a free lesson... lol



21-9 for CHN

[zqloy]

Koo/Tan is still dreaming.......

[vching]

Originally Posted by BMcentral http://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/images/buttons/viewpost.gif (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/showthread.php?p=594767#post594767)
What does it take for MAS to advance? beat china or waiting for Thailand to lose?

if MAS lost to CHN, can they still advance?
Yes...advance to Sudirman Cup 2009:D

if malaysia loses to china, they have to pray hard and fast for 40 days and hope that thailand beat england. However, if malaysia win, they will go through

[hcyong]

KKK/TBH really disappointing.

[Loh]

china 17-8 mas

mas losing first set.

This is a very disappointing score indeed! Hope MAS can buck up in the second game.

[FU4EVA]

Fu/Cai grab the 1st set 21-9

[vching]

aiyoh!!!!
KKK TBH WHAT ARE YOU DOING!!!!
*SOBS*
KKK ITS YOUR HAIR! MAKE IT GROW BACK :D

[zqloy]

KKK/TBH really disappointing.

Very. Slow movement on court esp KKK..... sigh.........

[BMcentral]

china 17-8 mas

mas losing first set.


Book your tickets to KL, MAS players.

Bording starts in 10 minutes

[bobace]

What happened to MAS pairs? 8-18

You MAS fans always have illusionary expectation. Do KKK/TBH really as good as you think? Beat CHN? More likely white-washed 0:5.

[dannyang]

wow!!!

FHF's smash reached 303km

[shyeling]

wake up KKK/TBH!!!!!!!

[BMcentral]

Fu/Cai grab the 1st set 21-9

that score makes Anita looks like a champion..

KKK/TBH can board the Plane now.

[bobace]

21:9, haha. Is this the one MAS think can win to save a bit face?

[Misty100]

If don't have to fight for relegation, even better, isn't it?

If there is no promotion and relegation, MAS would have remained in Div.2 and be champion in every SC... :p :D

[spchu]

It's official, KKK and TBH have lost their magic.

[xt6666]

If MAS gets beaten 0-5, then I think for ENG a 2-3 loss could be enough...

[robin7]

You MAS fans always have illusionary expectation. Do KKK/TBH really as good as you think? Beat CHN? More likely white-washed 0:5.

As Malaysians, this is what we can do? Does it cause your life miserable?

[indra]

second set...KKK/TBH leading 8-2 now...

[bobace]

If there is no promotion and relegation, MAS would have remained in Div.2 and be champion in every SC... :p :D

haha, agree. MAS better stay there and be 'champion' all the time.

[jasonmarc]

looks like the MAS MD didnt really play their game right, no resistant, no strategies, they seem like dont know what to deal with CY/FHF.......hope they can make some changes in 2nd. game

[Misty100]

So fast the score is 8:2, are u high on drugs or something?

[BMcentral]

21:9, haha. Is this the one MAS think can win to save a bit face?
apparently, it doesn't look like it.:crying:

[dannyang]

just like CHN coach said, they have found a way to stop KKK/TBH.
KKK/TBH outperformed during the AE07, because they are new and nobody know their strategy. but now, no magic any more.

[badboypedi]

kkk/tbh leading 8:2 ?!!? would be nice..:confused:

[phaarix]

21 n-n-n-nine??? Wow that's not good lol...

[bobace]

As Malaysians, this is what we can do? Does it cause your life miserable?

Not at all. Do you know why MAS players more often under-performed? Because your illusionary fans give them too much expectation and pressure.

[Netasia]

MAS lost 21-9? ....so sad, hope they do better

[LI De Quan]

No Rexy there,Malaysians.

[BMcentral]

Not at all. Do you know why MAS players more often under-performed? Because your illusionary fans give them too much expectation and pressure.
It is too harsh to say that they are illusional, but sometimes the prediction out of MAS camp sounds like they are CHN.

[madbad]

Not at all. Do you know why MAS players more often under-performed? Because your illusionary fans give them too much expectation and pressure.

In the same way that your England fans have unrealistic expectations for their highly overated, poorly coached football team? ;)

[Netasia]

16-10, mas not looking good

[madbad]

Looks like it's over, baby. CHN 17-13.

[niezzam6177]

KKK/TBH played bad against the chinese pair...too many mistake, no confidence, less smash, poor defending....:crying:

[BMcentral]

they already give up the game during the first set.

[bobace]

In the same way that your England fans have unrealistic expectations for their highly overated, poorly coached football team? ;)

you have a point. At least I myself do not have any expectations from those bastards. waste of money. so you need to learn it as well. do not prise MD as legend when they just won few opens.

[hcyong]

Illusionary fans = fans that do not exist.
Disillusioned fans more like it.

[dannyang]

at least more realistic than malaysian badminton fans.
X-BALL deamed to beat CHN 3:2.

[vching]

aargh malaysia lost...

[robin7]

Not at all. Do you know why MAS players more often under-performed? Because your illusionary fans give them too much expectation and pressure.

Haha.... High expectation turns into tremendous pressure. Generally, I agreed specially in team event.

But it's also because they are lack of mental toughness.

[badboypedi]

that was it.. i think that england wont lose their game, because their doubles are so good

[CaesarZ]

It's obvious that CY/FHF had improved alot and very in form while KKK/TBH's play had gone down, they have no confidence and they made alot of mistakes and errors.

[hcyong]

at least more realistic than malaysian badminton fans.
X-BALL deamed to beat CHN 3:2.

X-Ball is not your typical Malaysian fan. A typical Malaysian fan hope for 4-1 defeat (I would guess).

[vellin]

Anyone help me, plz...
why suddenly i can't open the live score???
keep post the score.. thanks

[bobace]

at least more realistic than malaysian badminton fans.
X-BALL deamed to beat CHN 3:2.

they talked about challenging CHN in the final b4 going to Glasgow, just a joke. If you look at the voting post, how many have voted MAS to be runner-up or even champion?

[Netasia]

will there be another 5-0 for china? Are DEN and INA the only 2 countries that is able to take a set from them?

[Dreamzz]

toothless display, looking at this, even if MAS make it to the semis, they would lose to KOR anyways.

[BMcentral]

Player of the day: Anita
Sucker of the day: That pathetic MAS pair who lost their own confidence and lost 21-9

[vching]

if malaysia can win a game, it would gurantee a place in semis if england lost. if malaysia dosent win a game, it goes down to which team won more sets, which makes it dodgy...

[nugroho]

ok .... it was quite a match.... bye-bye malaysian i guess....

[zqloy]

It's obvious that CY/FHF had improved alot and very in form while KKK/TBH's play had gone down, they have no confidence and they made alot of mistakes and errors.

KKK's dreaming in the 1st set while TBH dreaming in the 2nd. No encouragement to each other at all.

[hcyong]

Although Malaysia would not get relegated but the one disappointing individual performance is from KKK/TBH. Failing to secure victory against ENG and then getting thrashed by CHN. Not a performance befitting WR#2.

[bobace]

Haha.... High expectation turns into tremendous pressure. Generally, I agreed specially in team event.

But it's also because they are lack of mental toughness.

talking about mental toughness, is it more related to confidence or motivation?

[BMcentral]

KKK/TBH lost their will to fight because they saw CHN WD are looking in their eye as if they are saying "all resistance are futile".

[niezzam6177]

Where the hell is Rexy? Why he is not there??:confused:

[FU4EVA]

Fu/Cai won against KKK/TBH

[nugroho]

now... no matter what is the recult between THA and ENG, the english would go to semis challenging INA... am i right?

[Jessica]

Something seriously happening in KKK/TBH.China totally dominating the games and the Mas pair have no answers at all towards them.To be spoken truly,I have never seen KKK/TBH playing so badly before.TBH making a lot of unforce error and just can't focus in the games.At first,i though even if they lose,they will lose in rubber game but i just didn't thought they lose so terriblely and i observe that there are no interection at all between KKK and TBH,is something happens between them?Well,this is really dissapointing.Cai/Fu is really superb.

[zqloy]

Player of the day: Anita
Sucker of the day: That pathetic MAS pair who lost their own confidence and lost 21-9

U sure? Anita's display kinda makes me puke. Our young XD performed better.

[vching]

Sucker of the day: That pathetic MAS pair who lost their own confidence and lost 21-9

all these criticisms, i think its unfair for you to label them like that... every player has up and downs... CY FHF didnt become world champs in a year, hell, they were playing as early as 2002. however, i think KKK TBH's game has dropped a bit, but still their prior achievements should not be undermined

[niezzam6177]

KKK's dreaming in the 1st set while TBH dreaming in the 2nd. No encouragement to each other at all.

Seems like they both had an argument in the 2nd set?? Maybe why their commmunication on court is poor today...Not enough fire.

[vching]

now... no matter what is the recult between THA and ENG, the english would go to semis challenging INA... am i right?


if england loses to thailand, and if malaysia manages to take a game off china, malaysia goes through. if not, it will depend on the total amount of sets won...

[jasonmarc]

KKK/TBH didnt pressured CY/FHF enough at the front court potion, and kept lifting the shuttle for the CHN to attack....kind of lost in speed at the net, and to depend on defend all the way is almost insufficient for them to win the match.....especially playing with CY/FHF ...hope they really learnt something here....and be ready to face all the top pairs in the world in coming...SS and WC.

[bobace]

now... no matter what is the recult between THA and ENG, the english would go to semis challenging INA... am i right?

no, if ENG lose to THA, there will be a three way tie deciding on games or even points won.

[dannyang]

they talked about challenging CHN in the final b4 going to Glasgow, just a joke. If you look at the voting post, how many have voted MAS to be runner-up or even champion?

that's funny.
they even have no capacity of reaching the semi-final. lol

[vching]

hence, the big question is can the thais hold the english...

GO THAILAND!!!

[robin7]

you have a point. At least I myself do not have any expectations from those bastards. waste of money. so you need to learn it as well. do not prise MD as legend when they just won few opens.

I thought "illusionary fans" are from anywhere around the world not only MAS. :D

[nwy5633]

i juz see mistake & lift..
they dun hav the winning key - speed, power & control

[BMcentral]

all these criticisms, i think its unfair for you to label them like that... every player has up and downs... CY FHF didnt become world champs in a year, hell, they were playing as early as 2002. however, i think KKK TBH's game has dropped a bit, but still their prior achievements should not be undermined
they give it up, can't u see it?
they saw the CHN WD waiting for their match and they realized that there is no way to pull an upset, so they just give away the match.

i did not expect them to win, but 21-9? that's pathetic.

[zqloy]

Although Malaysia would not get relegated but the one disappointing individual performance is from KKK/TBH. Failing to secure victory against ENG and then getting thrashed by CHN. Not a performance befitting WR#2.

Its a wrong move for Rexy to send KKK/TBH to Surdiman. They should stay at home do more training instead! Dunno whether they will come to the LCW situation after these pathetic loses.

[Misty100]

This is what fame and wealth (hefty rewards from the govt.) did to the young, rebellious and immature youths ... hate to say it, but it's so true. They remind me of Hafiz the yoyo-dummy. Anyone notices, KKK especially, he had that high and mighty, aloof attitude, they way he carries himself and the way he moves, he has that "i am indispensible" body language. Anyway, he deserves to lose, saw this coming... "the faster and higher you climb, the hard and further you fall".

[phaarix]

Good start by Malaysia WD. Miracle if they pulled it off but here's hoping :P.

[Jessica]

This is really a very painful lesson to both of them.I sincerely hope they start afresh from here and forgot all the past victory.They play better when they are still new because humans always think a lot when they want the victory so much.I remember when TBH is still new,he says he did not think of the victory and fearless in the court but now i think they think too much.

[niezzam6177]

is CCTV5 stop broadcasting the game now? Damn...

[Misty100]

Fu/Cai won against KKK/TBH

YES, Fu/Cai won. Losing and winning is part and parcel of a game. But it's the way they lose... i think the scoreline alone can tell you enough...PATHETIC!

[bobace]

This is what fame and wealth (hefty rewards from the govt.) did to the young, rebellious and immature youths ... hate to say it, but it's so true. They remind me of Hafiz the yoyo-dummy. Anyone notices, KKK especially, he had that high and mighty, aloof attitude, they way he carries himself and the way he moves, he has that "i am indispensible" body language. Anyway, he deserves to lose, saw this coming... "the faster and higher you climb, the hard and further you fall".
agree. MAS (including gov and fans) awarded them too much too early. they just won AE only and still at their early stage of career.

[phaarix]

Might have been more safe to put up another MD. Even LWW/CTF more consistent atm. KKK/TBH look to be going through what just about all Malaysian players do at some point *sigh* :(.

[V3i HoN6]

Well, mocked as you like.
We have faith in them and will always support them.

[bobace]

have your guys noticed that of all MAS players today, less the expectation, better they performed. I think XD did really well as well as the WS. Now, even the WD is doing well.
I believe under the MAS system, there should be enough talents trained to challenge CHN and IND. They just cannot perform in big stage. Why?

[robin7]

talking about mental toughness, is it more related to confidence or motivation?

Mental toughness is essential at crucial points.
Confidence as well as motivation are required during the whole match whether you are leading or trailing.

Btw, whether MAS or ENG goes into SF, they are considered NEW COMER.

[phaarix]

I think KKK's huge amount of confidence in himself was actually his strong point, and what gave him and TBH a lot of their previous edge. Personally I think it was a mistake to try and make him play it down.

[dannyang]

229km/hr from ZTT

[shyeling]

hey.. can somebody tell me what is "clear winner" ??
thanks...

[bidapower]

anybody can post the live score??

[Misty100]

Realistically, they are just selfish young little brats. They rather play in individual events and glorify and keep the winnings. But in team event, they have to share the glory with the rest of the team.
FLASHBACK: Remember ASIAD '06, they lost in the team event, BUT they churned out winner of the Gold medal in the individual MD.

[FU4EVA]

CCTV is not broadcasting :(

[bobace]

CHN 21:12 MAS 1st game

[LI De Quan]

21-12 first set for China(YANG Wei/ZHAO Tingting)

[FU4EVA]

YW/ZTT testing the racket on the 1st half of the 1st set. After the break, they pump lots of oil and won the 1st st 21-12

[hcyong]

hey.. can somebody tell me what is "clear winner" ??
thanks...

When someone smashes at you and you make a winning return, I suppose that is a clear winner. But I'm not sure. All these stats are not well-defined.

[BMcentral]

CHN 21:12 MAS 1st game
better than expected, i was expecting something less than 21 9.

[bobace]

Realistically, they are just selfish young little brats. They rather play in individual events and glorify and keep the winnings. But in team event, they have to share the glory with the rest of the team.
FLASHBACK: Remember ASIAD '06, they lost in the team event, BUT they churned out winner of the Gold medal in the individual MD.

i think it is more to pressure than to selfish. do not think they would like to lose in team event.

[Misty100]

hey.. can somebody tell me what is "clear winner" ??
thanks...

that means "sure win" or "100% to win"

[andy_s]

Best chance for a point for Malaysia still to come....

Surely thats all Malaysia is looking for? realistically going into this tie they had probably 2 players/ pairs capable of beating their chinese opponents.

MS LCW and MD KKK/TBH.

So winning anything more than 1 out of 2 "maybe" games would be too high to hope for right???!!??


Now LCW has been gearing up in form and LD not quite as good because of recent injury..... so who knows???!!???
Come on Malaysia, sneak one, keep the brits on the edge of their seats for tonight ;-)


Anyway back to the more important game.... GO Aussie!

[FU4EVA]

Realistically, they are just selfish young little brats. They rather play in individual events and glorify and keep the winnings. But in team event, they have to share the glory with the rest of the team.
FLASHBACK: Remember ASIAD '06, they lost in the team event, BUT they churned out winner of the Gold medal in the individual MD.

Additional: Malaysian doubles rely too much on the coaches during the match. Without Rexy, they are just nothing. Other players from other countries are more independent. They don't always look at their coach during the match. (compared with Malaysian players)

[bobace]

When someone smashes at you and you make a winning return, I suppose that is a clear winner. But I'm not sure. All these stats are not well-defined.
I think clear winner should be play to the back court, either opp wrong judgment or not having enough time to return.

[phaarix]

Yeah there is a lot of pressure playing in a team (hardly an excuse but it's true). I almost lost to someone I should have wiped the floor with at a teams event a while ago simply because it was a very important tie and I reeeally didn't want to lose it for the team (which made me play far worse not better).

[Misty100]

i think it is more to pressure than to selfish. do not think they would like to lose in team event.

Just can't help it. I wanted to think otherwise, but records don't lie. Anyway, who cares about history, human beings are very forgiving by nature and absentminded by flaws. Everyone will find them excuses.

[felix929]

The important match is not China vs Malaysia
we all know that China is gonna own them... (sorri malaysian fans)
BUT
lets see how the aussies do against the czechs..
its 2-1 atm czechs way
This is much more exciting as the match is at least close

[taufik-ist]

i know why TBH/KKK played so bad, that's not them.

by sending only 1 MD , it makes a big pressure to TBH/kkk, it sends a message to them "you must win or your team will 'collapse' " and look at them ,they played like 'unknown player' (lost to Eng pair and lost tamely to cai/fu)

[bobace]

MAS leading 8:5 in 2nd game

[spchu]

8-8 now in the 2nd set for women doubles.

[bobace]

The important match is not China vs Malaysia
we all know that China is gonna own them... (sorri malaysian fans)
BUT
lets see how the aussies do against the czechs..
its 2-1 atm czechs way
This is much more exciting as the match is at least close

Are those name looking like CHN players from China or trained in Aussie?

[Misty100]

The important match is not China vs Malaysia
we all know that China is gonna own them... (sorri malaysian fans)
BUT
lets see how the aussies do against the czechs..
its 2-1 atm czechs way
This is much more exciting as the match is at least close

Let's face it, dude. Unless you are from that home country, you would pay attention to the outcome, but to most... unless you are in Div. 1, no one really bothers.

"Truth are bitter pills to swallow"

[shyeling]

from all the games played jz now, wat i can conclude is whoever get the 11th point 1st will win the game la... this phenomena is very terrible...:eek::eek::eek:

[bobace]

11:12, see, when there is no pressure, the MAS is doing well than expected. why???

[Misty100]

Are those name looking like CHN players from China or trained in Aussie?

Huang chia-chi is from Chinese-Taipei, but she plays for Aussie now... after migrating there a few years ago.

[taufik-ist]

LCW, you must win...

[jasonmarc]

Rexy is not in the team..???? what happen? Dont tell me he didnt extend his contract with BAM! or he rather prepare the other MD at Home(MAS) than coming to Glasgow to lose....their main target accually is to keep staying in Group 1......BAM knew they are not ready yet....for the first timer to compete in Group 1 for the Sudirman Cup...! i think so.....

[nwy5633]

look like there is no live coverage for LCW vs LD showdown...
so dissapointed..
those WS & XD juz took it from MS..
i wan LIVE T.T

[bobace]

Huang chia-chi is from Chinese-Taipei, but she plays for Aussie now... after migrating there a few years ago.

Thanks. I knew you had a CHN coach who is now coach for END WS. Thought she might have introduced few girls there:).

[jsteve]

I think clear winner should be play to the back court, either opp wrong judgment or not having enough time to return.
Exactly, as a clear is a kind of a hit

[dannyang]

i know why TBH/KKK played so bad, that's not them.

by sending only 1 MD , it makes a big pressure to TBH/kkk, it sends a message to them "you must win or your team will 'collapse' " and look at them ,they played like 'unknown player' (lost to Eng pair and lost tamely to cai/fu)

unknown players usually outperform.

[nwy5633]

Rexy is not in the team..???? what happen? Dont tell me he didnt extend his contract with BAM! or he rather prepare the other MD at Home(MAS) than coming to Glasgow to lose....their main target accually is to keep staying in Group 1......BAM knew they are not ready yet....for the first timer to compete in Group 1 for the Sudirman Cup...! i think so.....
i think he stay in KL to train his other top guns for the upcoming SS...
maybe he think tat koo/tan is not in form yet, muz let them suffer some loses to make them awake..:D

[bidapower]

lee chong wei will win against lin dan base on his performance now and the way he play, fast and furios!!!! come on lee chong wei!!!!

[felix929]

Told ya aussie vs czech match is much more exciting
first set in 4th game WD
27-25 Aussies way

[FU4EVA]

YW/ZTT won the match against WPT/CEH 21-12 21-15

[phaarix]

Finally match I've been waiting for for aaages... LCW's big test :D.

[Misty100]

BAM do not consider Sudirman Cup an important tourney. They are only here to make up the numbers and win some Olympic qualification points. Rexy with a pay rise of over 50% from his current salary and extra benefits with his renew contract of 2 years, he is back home in MAS training and preparing his next secret weapon for the coming SS and WC07.

[bobace]

lee chong wei will win against lin dan base on his performance now and the way he play, fast and furios!!!! come on lee chong wei!!!!

do not count your eggs yet. realistically how much chance does LCW have? he beat LD twice b4 both in KL.

[LI De Quan]

Now LD VS LEE CW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[taufik-ist]

hee.heee
finally

LCW vs lin dan....

hajar.... man , balas kekalahan your teamates :)

[bultang]

look like there is no live coverage for LCW vs LD showdown...
so dissapointed..
those WS & XD juz took it from MS..
i wan LIVE T.T

try dis channel cctv 5

[nwy5633]

i would rather say LD got a higher chance win..
so if LCW lose i won't be tat sad..
then if LCW win i will be more happy..

[phaarix]

Well they both pretty easily beat BCL recently so they both on good form :) (I hope so anyway). Not another match like the MD or I'll be a little depressed lol.

[nugroho]

CCTV showing LCW vs LD

[FU4EVA]

Yay cctv5 is gonna show LD vs LCW

[spchu]

Our last hope....Lee Chong wei up against Lin Dan. Beat him so u have the confidence come World Championship in Aug.

[bidapower]

plez post the live result.....anybody

[taufik-ist]

BAM do not consider Sudirman Cup an important tourney. They are only here to make up the numbers and win some Olympic qualification points. Rexy with a pay rise of over 50% from his current salary and extra benefits with his renew contract of 2 years, he is back home in MAS training and preparing his next secret weapon for the coming SS and WC07.

why did BAM talk about going through to the semi or final :) too early, if they didn't consider sudirman cup as an important tourney

[Misty100]

hmmm . . . on neutral ground, let's see the outcome here. Both players don't wanna lose to one another. LCW is playing very well, and LD just recovered from an injury. Should be an awesome match to watch, too bad no LIVE telecast on tv.

[Misty100]

Ld 2 : 2 Lcw ......

[Misty100]

LD 3 : 3 LCW tight match

[bobace]

why did BAM talk about going through to the semi or final :) too early, if they didn't consider sudirman cup as an important tourney

did't you understand it is a way the MAS make themselves feel better?http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
;)

[Misty100]

tooth and nail, poin for point 4 all now.

[taufik-ist]

malaysia will 'win' if lcw beat lin dan :)

[Misty100]

did't you understand it is a way the MAS make themselves feel better?http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif
;)

Very sensitive, too much ppl want to jump on the bandwagon. :eek::cool::p:D:rolleyes:

[Misty100]

MAS will WIN if LCW beats LD and THA will go all out to beat ENG 3:2 :p

[hcyong]

why did BAM talk about going through to the semi or final :) too early, if they didn't consider sudirman cup as an important tourney

The semifinal was a very realistic target. If Sudirman Cup were to be held again next week, I will still say Malaysia will enter semifinals. The fact that we failed is because of:
1. KKK/TBH lost to ENG MD (few expected this)
2. MAS WD lost to ENG WD (although many expected a close match, but MAS WD had 3 match points)

MAS were this close to the semifinals. And against INA, who knows?

[Misty100]

Wow... it's 9 all now!!!

[Misty100]

10: 10 now... very exciting.

[Misty100]

Nothing to giveaway between these 2. Only the lucky one will win today.

LCW lead 11: 10 from LD at interval

[hcyong]

The AUS-CZE Div4 promotion tie is very tight. Good to know that badminton is very competitive in the lower echelons as well.

[hcyong]

CHN has yet to lose a single game in this tournament so far.

[Misty100]

LCW 15 : 12 LD... LCW opening up a gap now.

[phaarix]

LCW go go you can do it :D!

[taufik-ist]

The semifinal was a very realistic target. If Sudirman Cup were to be held again next week, I will still say Malaysia will enter semifinals. The fact that we failed is because of:
1. KKK/TBH lost to ENG MD (few expected this)
2. MAS WD lost to ENG WD (although many expected a close match, but MAS WD had 3 match points)

MAS were this close to the semifinals. And against INA, who knows?

by sending only 10 players (1 MD) is sounded like 'understimate the tournament',look at other countries they send full team. rexy ever asked by indonesia journalist "what if TBH/KKK get injured, who will replace them and rexy replied "maybe mas coach (YKH and ?) will replace them to play MD, i want to replace them but i was not malaysia citizen" :D

[andy_s]

Hoping for 3 sets one way or another with LD/LCW.

For div 4 battle
i think Czech has the advantage going into mixed.

Hope I am wrong though!!!

Come on Ross n Tania..... Lets get one step closer to the big time.

[Misty100]

LD 17 : 17 LCW... LD catching up...

[taufik-ist]

MAS will WIN if LCW beats LD and THA will go all out to beat ENG 3:2 :p

to beat lindan will feel like winning a tournament :)

[Misty100]

LCW wins 1st set 21 : 17 over LD!

[taufik-ist]

yes LCW rules :) 21:17

[vching]

YES!!!
LCW snatches first set...
a glimmer of hope?

[z3048018]

it seems LD is so relaxed....too relaxed

[spchu]

Fu yoh LCW won first set 21- 17- Hope he's really back and not give us just false hopes.....Thailand, please do us a favour and beat the English....

[vellin]

Really happy LCW won the first game 21-17..
jia you...

[taufik-ist]

YES!!!
LCW snatches first set...
a glimmer of hope?

or a mercy from china team :p

[hcyong]

First loss of a game for CHN in this tournament. Well done, LCW.

[phaarix]

LCW you are my hero :P.

[Misty100]

to beat lindan will feel like winning a tournament :)


TRUE also! Lin Dan is so gungho, he is so highly regarded, a gem to the whole "great wall". Beating him is like winning the SC. Who esle can do it if not LCW, or TH. I guess these are the only 2 players he actually feels can challenge him.

[taufik-ist]

Fu yoh LCW won first set 21- 17- Hope he's really back and not give us just false hopes.....Thailand, please do us a favour and beat the English....

just consider this is the first match, and china- malaysia i still 0-0

it's very odd to see MS in last order :D

[hcyong]

For div 4 battle
i think Czech has the advantage going into mixed.

Hope I am wrong though!!!

Come on Ross n Tania..... Lets get one step closer to the big time.

Basically, AUS is banking on Huang Chia-Chi for 2 points, which she duly delivered. But for the other matches, CZE looks stronger.

[wynn000]

no a mercy from china bcoz LD very expect to play wif LCW he say he want proved himself. He say only he win LCW can proved himself.

[Misty100]

If LCW wins, over LD... we Malaysian should celebrate like we have already won the SC.

2nd set - LD 5 : 6 LC

[LI De Quan]

it seems LD is so relaxed....too relaxed
agree!!!!!!Don't know what he is thinking about,Maybe Taufik?

[taufik-ist]

by beating lin dan will 'sweep away' a disappoitment of mas team performance

[vching]

is it my computer jamming again or are the scores not moving?

[Misty100]

Ld 7 : 6 Lcw...