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madbad 06-13-2007, 05:49 PM Gates are now open for MAS supporters which we expect in droves for their encounter with CHN. Come on CHN fans, make some noise in support of your team too. Prediction CHN 4 MAS 1
Later on THA v ENG. I'll bet many MAS fans will be around for this tie and praying hard that Boonsak and co. can save Malaysia's bacon. ENG can become the only non Asian side in the SF with a win. Promises to be an exciting one. Prediction ENG 3 THA 2
badMania 06-13-2007, 05:58 PM Gates are now open for MAS supporters which we expect in droves for their encounter with CHN. Come on CHN fans, make some noise in support of your team too. Prediction CHN 4 MAS 1
Later on THA v ENG. I'll bet many MAS fans will be around for this tie and praying hard that Boonsak and co. can save Malaysia's bacon. ENG can become the only non Asian side in the SF with a win. Promises to be an exciting one. Prediction ENG 3 THA 2
Bleak prospect for MAS....2 points they fight for as always are in MS and MD. The XD is a give away, while WS and WD are almost confirmed losses too.
As for ENG vs THA, THA will grab at least 1 point in MS. They have fighting chances in WS and XD (what a cracking match it will be....Emms/Robertson vs Sudket/Saralee). WD and MD will be giveaways if they put Arunkesorn/Voravichitchaikul in the WD.
bobace 06-13-2007, 06:01 PM MAS fans better watching and praying for THA to do you a favour.
Predict CHN 4:1 or 5:0 MS, THA 2:3 ENG
Sina Sports have posted a CHN vs. MAS lineup. i am not sure how they got it or whether it is the real lineup or not.
but anyway, everything makes sense except WS.
LD vs. LCW
ZN vs. ??? (translation sounds like "Anita"?)
YW/ZTT vs. WPT/CEH
CY/FHF vs. KKK/TBH
ZB/GL vs. Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
rwchen 06-13-2007, 07:29 PM I just read from sina website that Malaysia is fielding Anita Raj Kaur instead of Wong Mew Choo, this comes as a surprise to me. The rest of the team remains the same as the previous two ties. No change in XD.
Not sina.com, it is qq.com.
I just read from sina website that Malaysia is fielding Anita Raj Kaur instead of Wong Mew Choo, this comes as a surprise to me. The rest of the team remains the same as the previous two ties. No change in XD.
i don't see her name in the entry list!
maybe WMC is injured?
and then there is the USA vs. UKR tie in Group 3A. if USA successfully beat UKR, which they should since everyone else in their group beat them, then USA will qualify for the SF as they will be 2nd place in their group. they will then play the winner between SCO and IND.
cooler 06-13-2007, 07:36 PM i dunno how well LD had recovered from his injury. LCW is the hottest MS player right now IMO.
rwchen 06-13-2007, 07:39 PM The news about the lineup is at http://sports.qq.com/a/20070614/000105.htm I did not see any comment from the Malaysian team. China is fielding their strongest lineup with Lin Dan, Zhang Ning, Gao Ling/Zheng Bo, Cai Yun/ Fu Hai Feng, Yang Wei/ Zhao Ting Ting.
rwchen 06-13-2007, 07:40 PM i don't see her name in the entry list!
maybe WMC is injured?
Anita Raj Kaur is the last minute replacement over Julia Wong and Lydia Cheah. She is the WS champion of a local tourney before Sudirman Cup. I have not read about any comment from the Malaysian side at the website. I just wonder are they still allowed to make last minute changes before the match starts?
nice find. here is the photo:
the article rwchen found also says that the play sequence will be:
XD
WS
MD
WD
MS
which is really weird.
badMania 06-13-2007, 07:49 PM nice find. here is the photo:
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
How the heck they manage to take a pic of that?
I though team-sheets are out only 2-hrs prior to the match?
markchan 06-13-2007, 07:50 PM Wow, that's a real team list! WMC is being rested for the SF :D :D :D
....seriously, it could mean she is injured/carrying an injury, maybe that's why she played below par against THA WS??
Anyways, dun think she cud have won against ZN but she wud have definitely given ZN a good match being the fighter that she is.
Still the target wud be be prevent a whitewash and hope that THA wins over ENG :o
markchan 06-13-2007, 07:53 PM the article rwchen found also says that the play sequence will be:
XD
WS
MD
WD
MS
which is really weird.
If that is the order, the tie cud be over by the 4th match, provided KKK/TBH wins. I wud have prefered the WD last. Maybe, just maybe, if the tie is at 2-2, WPT/CEH wud perform a "miracle" match!!
the report says she is rested because she under-perform during group match. there was no mention of injury. maybe not a bad idea since WMC is likely not to get pass ZN anyway.
so it appears MAS coaches still have hope to qualify for the SF.
cooler 06-13-2007, 07:56 PM nice find. here is the photo: wow, that is one impressive spy satellite photo:D
If that is the order, the tie cud be over by the 4th match, provided KKK/TBH wins. I wud have prefered the WD last. Maybe, just maybe, if the tie is at 2-2, WPT/CEH wud perform a "miracle" match!!
yeah. it is really strange. and of course LYB is fuming over it as he has planned it not to be that way.
and LYB does have a point. why suddenly change the ordering? there are no players playing two events so they should use the normal ordering.
hcyong 06-13-2007, 07:59 PM Posting the permutation again in this thread. More relevant here.
Div 1 Group A
Current position: CHN(2,10-0) ENG(1,3-7) MAS(1,5-5) THA(0,2-8)
Last ties of the group: CHN v MAS, ENG v THA
CHN win, ENG win - CHN(3,x-x) ENG(2,x-x) MAS(1,x-x)
CHN lose, ENG lose - MAS(2,x-x) CHN(2,x-x) THA(1,x-x)
CHN win, ENG lose
CHN 5-0, ENG 2-3 - CHN(3,15-0) ENG,MAS,THA(1,5-10)
- total sets won-lost tiebreak (etc.) for ENG, MAS and THA
CHN 5-0, ENG 1-4 - CHN(3,15-0) THA(1,6-9) MAS(1,5-10)
CHN 5-0, ENG 0-5 - CHN(3,15-0) THA(1,7-8) MAS(1,5-10)
CHN 4-1, ENG 2-3 - CHN(3,14-1) MAS(1,6-9) THA(1,5-10)
CHN 4-1, ENG 1-4 - CHN(3,14-1) MAS(1,6-9) THA(1,6-9)
CHN 4-1, ENG 0-5 - CHN(3,14-1) THA(1,7-8) MAS(1,6-9)
CHN 3-2, ENG 2-3 - CHN(3,13-2) MAS(1,7-8) THA(1,5-10)
CHN 3-2, ENG 1-4 - CHN(3,13-2) MAS(1,7-8) THA(1,6-9)
CHN 3-2, ENG 0-5 - CHN(3,13-2) MAS(1,7-8) THA(1,7-8)
Good news for Malaysia is that it is very difficult for them to finish bottom, even given a 5-0 loss to China. But avoiding a 5-0 drubbing will make real sure. If England lose, there is a considerable chance they finish bottom.
CHN lose, ENG win - highly unlikely, THA finish bottom
CHN 2-3, ENG 5-0 - CHN(2,12-3) ENG(2,8-7) MAS(2,8-7)
CHN 2-3, ENG 4-1 - CHN(2,12-3) MAS(2,8-7) ENG(2,7-8)
CHN 2-3, ENG 3-2 - CHN(2,12-3) MAS(2,8-7) ENG(2,6-9)
CHN 1-4, ENG 5-0 - CHN(2,11-4) MAS(2,9-8) ENG(2,8-7)
CHN 1-4, ENG 4-1 - CHN(2,11-4) MAS(2,9-8) ENG(2,7-8)
CHN 1-4, ENG 3-2 - CHN(2,11-4) MAS(2,9-8) ENG(2,6-9)
CHN 0-5, ENG 5-0 - MAS(2,10-5) CHN(2,10-5) ENG(2,8-7)
CHN 0-5, ENG 4-1 - MAS(2,10-5) CHN(2,10-5) ENG(2,7-8)
CHN 0-5, ENG 3-2 - MAS(2,10-5) CHN(2,10-5) ENG(2,6-9)
markchan 06-13-2007, 08:00 PM ...and the normal ordering shud be
1. XD
2. MS
3. WS
4. MD
5. WD
Is that rite??
...and the normal ordering shud be
1. XD
2. MS
3. WS
4. MD
5. WD
Is that rite??
yes. that's correct...
hcyong 06-13-2007, 08:03 PM and then there is the USA vs. UKR tie in Group 3A. if USA successfully beat UKR, which they should since everyone else in their group beat them, then USA will qualify for the SF as they will be 2nd place in their group. they will then play the winner between SCO and IND.
For Divisions other than Div 1, they don't play crossover semifinals. If USA is placed second, they will only fight for 3rd placing in the Division.
yeah. it is really strange. and of course LYB is fuming over it as he has planned it not to be that way.
and LYB does have a point. why suddenly change the ordering? there are no players playing two events so they should use the normal ordering.
oh. and the funniest part of it is that LYB said with the new ordering, MS is played last, he claims that by then CHN will have won the tie 3-0, 4-0 or 3-1 and LD vs. LCW will not be as meaningful. he wants to see a "real" match played between LD and LCW, for learning/training purposes.
oh good ole LYB, can't hate him, but can't like him either!
For Divisions other than Div 1, they don't play crossover semifinals. If USA is placed second, they will only fight for 3rd placing in the Division.
thanks for the correction! :o
hcyong 06-13-2007, 08:08 PM the report says she is rested because she under-perform during group match. there was no mention of injury. maybe not a bad idea since WMC is likely not to get pass ZN anyway.
so it appears MAS coaches still have hope to qualify for the SF.
If MAS get the semis, they will face INA. If 3rd-placed, which is more likely, they will face DEN tomorrow. So, resting WMC may be a good idea. WS is a dead giveaway for any country against China anyway.
ctjcad 06-13-2007, 08:09 PM Gates are now open for MAS supporters which we expect in droves for their encounter with CHN. Come on CHN fans, make some noise in support of your team too. Prediction CHN 4 MAS 1
Later on THA v ENG. I'll bet many MAS fans will be around for this tie and praying hard that Boonsak and co. can save Malaysia's bacon. ENG can become the only non Asian side in the SF with a win. Promises to be an exciting one. Prediction ENG 3 THA 2
...i'll be rooting & supporting MAS and THA to upset ENG...;):)..And hope M'sia can make it thru..:cool:..(of course, so we'll see all of you M'sian fans here again on Semifinals day)..:cool::D
Sina Sports have posted a CHN vs. MAS lineup. i am not sure how they got it or whether it is the real lineup or not.
..wow, that is really fast:eek::confused:...It should be an interesting match tonight..:confused:
If MAS get the semis, they will face INA. If 3rd-placed, which is more likely, they will face DEN tomorrow. So, resting WMC may be a good idea. WS is a dead giveaway for any country against China anyway.
another thing to note is that the MAS coaches made that decision (or had that realization) at the last minute. they had WMC on the list first, and then crossed it out and replaced with Anita.
as much as i like THA's players and the country, i frankly have to say that their chances of beating ENG is less than 50%.
abedeng 06-13-2007, 08:21 PM as much as i like THA's players and the country, i frankly have to say that their chances of beating ENG is less than 50%.
Very true, and they're playing in Britain ....
I expect MAS to play to their true colours today (though they'd still lose) and try to redeem some pride by beating similarly out of luck DEN in the 5th/6th placing matches.
markchan 06-13-2007, 08:24 PM Yes, kwun. A lot hinges on the XD. If Saralee/Suket can pull it off and then Boonsak shud see off AS, allthey need is another point from the WS,MD or WD. I am sure THA will be fighting tooth and nail as they do not want to be last in the group.
angelatby 06-13-2007, 08:35 PM Im looking forward for the match between LD & LCW, i hope to see a good fight :p:p Its been long time since the last time i saw they played against each other ! ;);) However, i dont favour they play last, My God, although LD has an upper hand.......... i still hope LCW will try his best, LCW cannot take pressure if really 2-2 (possibility is not that high though, lol) :)
angelatby 06-13-2007, 08:36 PM sorry, correction, i see .......... MS playing 2nd, alrite then.
hcyong 06-13-2007, 08:37 PM Div 2 Group A
Current position: SIN(2,8-2) TPE(1,6-4) GER(1,5-5) SWE(0,1-9)
Last ties of the group: SIN v GER, TPE v SWE
SIN win, TPE any result - SIN(3,x-x) etc.
SIN lose, TPE lose - GER(2,x-x) SIN(2-x-x) etc.
SIN lose, TPE win
SIN 2-3, TPE 5-0 - TPE(2,11-4) SIN(2,10-5) GER(2,8-7)
SIN 2-3, TPE 4-1 - SIN(2,10-5) TPE(2,10-5) GER(2,8-7)
SIN 2-3, TPE 3-2 - SIN(2,10-5) TPE(2,9-6) GER(2,8-7)
SIN 1-4, TPE 5-0 - TPE(2,11-4) GER(2,9-6) SIN(2,9-6)
SIN 1-4, TPE 4-1 - TPE(2,10-5) GER(2,9-6) SIN(2,9-6)
SIN 1-4, TPE 3-2 - SIN(2,9-6) TPE(2,9-6) GER(2,9-6)
- total sets won-lost tiebreak (etc.) for SIN, TPE, GER
SIN 0-5, TPE 5-0 - TPE(2,11-4) GER(2,10-5) SIN(2,8-7)
SIN 0-5, TPE 4-1 - TPE(2,10-5) GER(2,10-5) SIN(2,8-7)
SIN 0-5, TPE 3-2 - GER(2,10-5) TPE(2,9-6) SIN(2,8-7)
I am well aware that some of these results are near impossible (like SIN losing 5-0 or even 4-1, and TPE losing), but I am listing out every possibility for academic reason.
hcyong 06-13-2007, 08:38 PM Div 2 Group B
Pretty straightforward. Winner between JPN and POL tops the group. Loser will be 2nd.
angelatby 06-13-2007, 08:39 PM It seems like England will advance, which is not in my consideration list of teams at all, gosh........ Can Thailand beat England by 3-2, gosh........... Malaysia wasted the chance in earlier matches :cool::cool::cool:
huangkwokhau 06-13-2007, 08:41 PM It seems like England will advance, which is not in my consideration list of teams at all, gosh........ Can Thailand beat England by 3-2, gosh........... Malaysia wasted the chance in earlier matches :cool::cool::cool:
Now you show up....on 4th day??:D
angelatby 06-13-2007, 08:43 PM Now you show up....on 4th day??:D
Ha Ha, im very busy, some more need to post riddles in chit-chat thread :D:D, MY GOD, wat happen.......... i hope to see some miracle today, is that possible.... gosh :(
pramilainc 06-13-2007, 08:45 PM :( That means Sri Lanka can't make it to League 4 this time, anyway we whitewashed Norway... For Divisions other than Div 1, they don't play crossover semifinals. If USA is placed second, they will only fight for 3rd placing in the Division.
abedeng 06-13-2007, 08:54 PM For Promotion Playoff, I'd say JPN vs SIN, with JPN on slight advantage. They lost the previous playoff to MAS.
angelatby 06-13-2007, 08:58 PM If MAS get the semis, they will face INA. If 3rd-placed, which is more likely, they will face DEN tomorrow. So, resting WMC may be a good idea. WS is a dead giveaway for any country against China anyway.
another thing to note is that the MAS coaches made that decision (or had that realization) at the last minute. they had WMC on the list first, and then crossed it out and replaced with Anita.
Meaning to say Anita can beat ZN, which i think the chances is even more lower. I think is because they are going to push different players up, since they have already predicted they will not be winning. However, i still think Thai will stand a 50-50 chance against England :D
saugusli 06-13-2007, 09:25 PM Wah...
I am very happy today because Indonesia go to semifinal and not meet to china in semifinal...
My hope previously is correct. Denmark beat Korea 3:2 happy to see this.. Indonesia is group B champion.
Indonesia will meet malaysia or england...
Meaning to say Anita can beat ZN, which i think the chances is even more lower. I think is because they are going to push different players up, since they have already predicted they will not be winning. However, i still think Thai will stand a 50-50 chance against England :D
saugusli 06-13-2007, 09:30 PM Hi all,
Final result group B:
INA
Korea
Denmark and hongkong out.
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I hope Group A:
China
England
Malaysia and Thailand out.
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tommy_bun 06-13-2007, 09:51 PM Eng can take the piont from XD,MD and WS
tommy_bun 06-13-2007, 09:52 PM MS belongs to thai and WD is 50-50
angelatby 06-13-2007, 09:54 PM Hope China beat Malaysia 5:0 and England beat Thailand 3:2 or best 4:1.
I want your country can't go to semifinal (out).
What if Thai beat England at 4-1, and they play against China, maybe u need to hide at somewhere :D:D:D All the PAWs will lose :p
angelatby 06-13-2007, 09:55 PM Hope China beat Malaysia 5:0 and England beat Thailand 3:2 or best 4:1.
I want your country can't go to semifinal (out).
Impossible England beat Thai at 4-1, ha ha ha. They secure winnings in XD and MS friend :D:D
angelatby 06-13-2007, 09:56 PM MS belongs to thai and WD is 50-50
Yep, WD stand a chance also :o
For Promotion Playoff, I'd say JPN vs SIN, with JPN on slight advantage. They lost the previous playoff to MAS.
Agree. Now that SIN has cleared the first difficult hurdle by barely beating TPE, hope that SIN can do likewise to JPN.
JPN should be stronger in WS and WD and SIN in MS and MD. So, much hinges on the XD, in my opinion. Only thing is that JPN may surprise by playing the young Kenichi Tago in MS instead of the regular Shoji Sato, but I think our boys should be able to handle both.
hcyong 06-13-2007, 10:27 PM Agree. Now that SIN has cleared the first difficult hurdle by barely beating TPE, hope that SIN can do likewise to JPN.
JPN should be stronger in WS and WD and SIN in MS and MD. So, much hinges on the XD, in my opinion. Only thing is that JPN may surprise by playing the young Kenichi Tago in MS instead of the regular Shoji Sato, but I think our boys should be able to handle both.
MD and WD are 50-50. In fact, I feel SIN are slight favourites for WD and JPN slight favourites for MD.
But no matter what, it's gonna be close.
danielle 06-13-2007, 10:57 PM I pray for the best for Malaysia. Malaysian players, don't give up. Jia you! Play your best and show your fighting spirit! Win or lose, nevermind. :p Miracles do happen as long as you guys are not over-confidence and fight hard. Jia you! :)
hcyong 06-13-2007, 11:15 PM I pray for the best for Malaysia. Malaysian players, don't give up. Jia you! Play your best and show your fighting spirit! Win or lose, nevermind. :p Miracles do happen as long as you guys are not over-confidence and fight hard. Jia you! :)
It is out of Malaysia's hands. Well, it IS in Malaysia's hands. If we beat China ...
But the THA v ENG tie is out of our hands. I will not hope for anything. However, THA has to fight to avoid being at the bottom of the group, so there is incentive for everyone to win.
jasonmarc 06-14-2007, 12:00 AM Wah...
I am very happy today because Indonesia go to semifinal and not meet to china in semifinal...
My hope previously is correct. Denmark beat Korea 3:2 happy to see this.. Indonesia is group B champion.
Indonesia will meet malaysia or england...
most possible is ENG......to meet INA, good news to INA for not having to face MAS in SF....this SF :(...not as interesting as MAS Vs INA....:crying: only CHN VS KOR is interesting..............and CHN will meet INA in the final for sure:p then the final will be exciting to watch....;)
dunker 06-14-2007, 12:05 AM I dont think Mas should think it is out of their hands coz the fat lady have yet to sing . Mas should go in with all cylinders fireing and if Mas lose then they should go down with guns blazing in all its glory...of coz China may well stomp on Mas like a bug...still to say "it is out of our hands" is not what any Malaysian player should ever say. As Rexy would say "mesti berani!!!" Come on fans of Malaysian badminton dont give up hope.
it is understandable that many think that ENG will advance to the semi-final instead of MAS. and i must admit, i am also in that camp.
HOWEVER, this is badminton, anything can happen and supporter should not give up hope. even more importantly, the team and players should not give up hope, once they have given up hope, they effectively gave away whatever chances they have left.
we will just have to wait to find out.
Misty100 06-14-2007, 12:19 AM If CHN were to def. MAS with a 3:2 scoreline, YKH will regret his decision for NOT playing WMC in WS... at least there is a fighting chance. Fielding Anita is a suicide mission, unless her opponent suffers an injury... then, that's a miracle. MAS still has hope to take 2 points in MD and MS, fighting chance here, so I think WMC is the only reality chance. The other 2 doubles are almost as good as gone.
angelatby 06-14-2007, 12:32 AM If CHN were to def. MAS with a 3:2 scoreline, YKH will regret his decision for NOT playing WMC in WS... at least there is a fighting chance. Fielding Anita is a suicide mission, unless her opponent suffers an injury... then, that's a miracle. MAS still has hope to take 2 points in MD and MS, fighting chance here, so I think WMC is the only reality chance. The other 2 doubles are almost as good as gone.
I saw Mr.Kwun posted the Name that crossed out WMC's name. But on the other hand, the draw from website is still WMC vs ZN. Im confuse :cool:. Nevertheless, WMC has a bad record against ZN, although i agree that putting in Anita might risk the team on the other hand... :o
I saw Mr.Kwun posted the Name that crossed out WMC's name. But on the other hand, the draw from website is still WMC vs ZN.
from which "website"?
saugusli 06-14-2007, 12:41 AM Yes. Agree with u. I want to see China VS INA in Final and exciting to watch... and China VS INA in final can predict 60%-40% or 50%-50%...so INA can fight.
China afraid to meet INA. I think INA also afraid to meet china. so we want to see this two legends badminton in final.
I want to see Taufik VS Lindan.
most possible is ENG......to meet INA, good news to INA for not having to face MAS in SF....this SF :(...not as interesting as MAS Vs INA....:crying: only CHN VS KOR is interesting..............and CHN will meet INA in the final for sure:p then the final will be exciting to watch....;)
saugusli 06-14-2007, 12:47 AM You are very confident man. You are nasionalism people. You have to thing base on the fact that Malaysia will be lost 2 times (lost to England and lost to China). So I hope England can beat Thailand, and if this happen England go to semifinal.
Oh Rexy not malaysia citizen. He still Indonesian citizen.
How about the malaysian citizen, nothing to do for them..Malaysia/BAM very hope to rexy. Also the MD players hope to rexy. Without rexy, Malaysia MD not strong.
I dont think Mas should think it is out of their hands coz the fat lady have yet to sing . Mas should go in with all cylinders fireing and if Mas lose then they should go down with guns blazing in all its glory...of coz China may well stomp on Mas like a bug...still to say "it is out of our hands" is not what any Malaysian player should ever say. As Rexy would say "mesti berani!!!" Come on fans of Malaysian badminton dont give up hope.
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 12:49 AM I had a strong feeling that CHN will beat MAS by 5-0... Come on LCW & KKT/TBH... prove it that i am wrong.. come one..
angelatby 06-14-2007, 12:50 AM from which "website"?
The tournamentsoftware. I remember the 1st day till yesterday the squad standing are all tally with those in the website. Somehow, i didnt see Anita's name there. Why is that so? They didnt update ? Because Lydia Cheah & Julia Wong's name were there still. :cool:
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=10
hcyong 06-14-2007, 01:07 AM The tournamentsoftware. I remember the 1st day till yesterday the squad standing are all tally with those in the website. Somehow, i didnt see Anita's name there. Why is that so? They didnt update ? Because Lydia Cheah & Julia Wong's name were there still. :cool:
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=10
This is what you should be looking for.
http://tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=15280&match=873
pjswift 06-14-2007, 01:08 AM oh. and the funniest part of it is that LYB said with the new ordering, MS is played last, he claims that by then CHN will have won the tie 3-0, 4-0 or 3-1 and LD vs. LCW will not be as meaningful. he wants to see a "real" match played between LD and LCW, for learning/training purposes.
oh good ole LYB, can't hate him, but can't like him either!
wow, LYB giving LCW another backhanded compliment. Quite obvious LYB thinks the world of LCW and wished he were CHN MS and not MAS MS.
cute_tbh 06-14-2007, 01:09 AM You are very confident man. You are nasionalism people. You have to thing base on the fact that Malaysia will be lost 2 times (lost to England and lost to China). So I hope England can beat Thailand, and if this happen England go to semifinal.
Oh Rexy not malaysia citizen. He still Indonesian citizen.
How about the malaysian citizen, nothing to do for them..Malaysia/BAM very hope to rexy. Also the MD players hope to rexy. Without rexy, Malaysia MD not strong.
god, saugusli...
aren't you a negative thinker...
not only your team is not in the first division, yet you dare to condemned other team personally...
rexy is an indonesian, alright..but he is a human being as well...and human should help human..despite skin, colours, nationality...
and what do you mean by 'the malaysia citizen (its malaysian, by the way), nothing to do to them'...?we support our players...and one of the ways by supporting them is to bring someone who can coach them so that they can be the best, be it whether the coach is indonesian or korean or chinese, or anyone...
so what if our coach is not malaysian...at least he is sincere and loves being in malaysia...and we thank him for that....
by the way, before you criticize MAS for having a coach which is not malaysian, why don't you find out who is the coach of ENG's MD....
hcyong 06-14-2007, 01:11 AM god, saugusli...
aren't you a negative thinker...
not only your team is not in the first division, yet you dare to condemned other team personally...
rexy is an indonesian, alright..but he is a human being as well...and human should help human..despite skin, colours, nationality...
and what do you mean by 'the malaysia citizen (its malaysian, by the way), nothing to do to them'...?we support our players...and one of the ways by supporting them is to bring someone who can coach them so that they can be the best, be it whether the coach is indonesian or korean or chinese, or anyone...
so what if our coach is not malaysian...at least he is sincere and loves being in malaysia...and we thank him for that....
by the way, before you criticize MAS for having a coach which is not malaysian, why don't you find out who is the coach of ENG's MD....
It's best not to reply to his post. It's obvious he's anti-Malaysian. Nothing we can do about it but to ignore it.
madbad 06-14-2007, 01:13 AM god, saugusli...
aren't you a negative thinker...
not only your team is not in the first division, yet you dare to condemned other team personally...
rexy is an indonesian, alright..but he is a human being as well...and human should help human..despite skin, colours, nationality...
and what do you mean by 'the malaysia citizen (its malaysian, by the way), nothing to do to them'...?we support our players...and one of the ways by supporting them is to bring someone who can coach them so that they can be the best, be it whether the coach is indonesian or korean or chinese, or anyone...
so what if our coach is not malaysian...at least he is sincere and loves being in malaysia...and we thank him for that....
by the way, before you criticize MAS for having a coach which is not malaysian, why don't you find out who is the coach of ENG's MD....
Actually it sounds like he is Indonesian but living in Singapore. Anyway, just ignore him if he is bugging you.
The tournamentsoftware. I remember the 1st day till yesterday the squad standing are all tally with those in the website. Somehow, i didnt see Anita's name there. Why is that so? They didnt update ? Because Lydia Cheah & Julia Wong's name were there still. :cool:
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=10
oh yes. i saw that list too. but later on someone pointed out that Anita replaced Lydia and Julia so the list in tournamentsoftware must be outdated..
and that hcyong said is right, we need to look at the tournamentsoftware lineup for the most definitive information.
pjswift 06-14-2007, 01:18 AM It is out of Malaysia's hands. Well, it IS in Malaysia's hands. If we beat China ...
But the THA v ENG tie is out of our hands. I will not hope for anything. However, THA has to fight to avoid being at the bottom of the group, so there is incentive for everyone to win.
So if WCH does not play, does it mean he earns no ranking points? Looks like MAS is letting THA and ENG decide on its SF fate if that spy satellite photo is to be believed. By the way where's ants, the one who knows first about MAS happenings. Can ants pls clarify if he's around?
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 01:19 AM Hi,
Is it confirm that the match order between CHN vs MAS as below?
Match overview OrderEventChina (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=4)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] -http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] Malaysia (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=10)ScorePoints
DurationCourt
MS
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WS
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MD
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WD
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XD
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Hi,
Is it confirm that the match order between CHN vs MAS as below?
Match overview OrderEventChina (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=4)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] -http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] Malaysia (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=10)ScorePoints
DurationCourt
no. the page you saw is obviously not filled in. i don't think any confirmation can be made.
ixory 06-14-2007, 01:21 AM In reality,it hard for MAS to beat China.As Malaysian i will support them 100% and pray hard so that MAS can beat China :rolleyes:..and sure i will support Thailand today:D:D.Go my tiger.U can do it.;)Malaysia Boleh..Thailand Boleh:D:D..
pjswift 06-14-2007, 01:22 AM Actually it sounds like he is Indonesian but living in Singapore. Anyway, just ignore him if he is bugging you.
He did say he's INA in a previous post. He's definitely not Sporean. No hint of Singlish in his English!
madbad 06-14-2007, 01:23 AM Hi,
Is it confirm that the match order between CHN vs MAS as below?
Match overview OrderEventChina (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=4)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] -http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/MAS.gif[MAS] Malaysia (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/team.aspx?id=15280&team=10)ScorePoints
DurationCourt
You'll find that this will change when the line ups are presented. All the ties have this blank format listed by default
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 01:31 AM Hi Kwun,
But how come the link below shows the line up? It this not correct? Do u mean by no body really know what is the line up for the match order? how come?
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=15280&match=873
no. the page you saw is obviously not filled in. i don't think any confirmation can be made.
Hi Kwun,
But how come the link below shows the line up? It this not correct? Do u mean by no body really know what is the line up for the match order? how come?
http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/teammatch.aspx?id=15280&match=873
the link *will* show the lineup. there are no names in there right now, a lineup only make sense if there are actual names...
hcyong 06-14-2007, 01:36 AM So if WCH does not play, does it mean he earns no ranking points? Looks like MAS is letting THA and ENG decide on its SF fate if that spy satellite photo is to be believed. By the way where's ants, the one who knows first about MAS happenings. Can ants pls clarify if he's around?
True, WCH will not earn ranking points. Unless MAS thinks that the 5-6 playoff is not important and fields him.
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 01:45 AM ooo.. Mean we don't know is it LD vs LCW? But i believe MAS will fill LCW & CHN will fill in LD. As for MD, i don't think CHN will fill in World no 1 as they want to avoid meeting with KKK/TBH. Another point to support this statement is CHN think that their WD and XD & WS is strong enough to win a point.. What u all says?
the link *will* show the lineup. there are no names in there right now, a lineup only make sense if there are actual names...
ooo.. Mean we don't know is it LD vs LCW? But i believe MAS will fill LCW & CHN will fill in LD. As for MD, i don't think CHN will fill in World no 1 as they want to avoid meeting with KKK/TBH. Another point to support this statement is CHN think that their WD and XD & WS is strong enough to win a point.. What u all says?
please read post #4 of this thread. the lineup has already been "discovered"
phaarix 06-14-2007, 01:50 AM Malaysia vs China is going to be the most interesting tie of the tournament so far for me. I want to see if LCW can keep up his recent good play and KKK/TBH can get back their edge. Not holding much hopes for the rest but you never know I guess :).
champion8 06-14-2007, 01:50 AM If CHN were to def. MAS with a 3:2 scoreline, YKH will regret his decision for NOT playing WMC in WS... at least there is a fighting chance. Fielding Anita is a suicide mission, unless her opponent suffers an injury... then, that's a miracle. MAS still has hope to take 2 points in MD and MS, fighting chance here, so I think WMC is the only reality chance. The other 2 doubles are almost as good as gone.
u never know. sometime filling in an unknown like Anita could spring surprise. give her a chance. Give her the support she need. It is not easy to go down and play against the world best.:)
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 02:00 AM sorry Kwun,
where got.. i can't find it? U mean lineup is the match order is it? But we still don't know who will be fill in for MS, MD etc.. rite?
please read post #4 of this thread. the lineup has already been "discovered"
I have mixed feeling about how Malaysia should field its lineup against China. Realisticlly, Malaysia can't beat China regardless how we shuffle the players and it really doesn't matter Mew Choo play or not. However, I still think Malaysia should field in the strongest lineup against China just in case Thailand happen to beat UK then Malaysia will need more win matches in order to squezze into the semi final. I also think BAM doesn't take Sudirman seriuosly all at(only 10 players were sent) hence did not put a lot of thought into it after the lost to UK. As long as Malaysia can maintain in Division 1 then is good enough, I think that's what BAM is thinking.
Of course for the die hard Malaysia fan, we demand better than that ... actually for me, as long as Lee Chong Wei vs Lin Dan and KKK/TBH vs Fu/Cai are in the lineup then is good enough ... after all, the individual match up like :
MS : Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, Taufik Hidayat, Peter Gade, Boonsak, ...
MD : KKK/TBH, Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan,
XD : Zheng/Gao, Sudket/Saralee, Robertson/Emms, Widianto/Marissa??
is what we all want to see, not which country will win(of course is China, no mystery there).
angelatby 06-14-2007, 02:04 AM sorry Kwun,
where got.. i can't find it? U mean lineup is the match order is it? But we still don't know who will be fill in for MS, MD etc.. rite?
Mr.Kwun is very busy person, the Line-Up we roughly know already. U check back the 1st few pages sure have, look it up thouroughly. Repeated many times already ;)
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 02:12 AM :crying::crying: , never mind..i will wait for 4.30pm hope to see LD vs LCW & KKK/TBH vs World no 1...
Mr.Kwun is very busy person, the Line-Up we roughly know already. U check back the 1st few pages sure have, look it up thouroughly. Repeated many times already ;)
hcyong 06-14-2007, 02:13 AM I have mixed feeling about how Malaysia should field its lineup against China. Realisticlly, Malaysia can't beat China regardless how we shuffle the players and it really doesn't matter Mew Choo play or not. However, I still think Malaysia should field in the strongest lineup against China just in case Thailand happen to beat UK then Malaysia will need more win matches in order to squezze into the semi final. I also think BAM doesn't take Sudirman seriuosly all at(only 10 players were sent) hence did not put a lot of thought into it after the lost to UK. As long as Malaysia can maintain in Division 1 then is good enough, I think that's what BAM is thinking.
Of course for the die hard Malaysia fan, we demand better than that ... actually for me, as long as Lee Chong Wei vs Lin Dan and KKK/TBH vs Fu/Cai are in the lineup then is good enough ... after all, the individual match up like :
MS : Lin Dan, Lee Chong Wei, Taufik Hidayat, Peter Gade, Boonsak, ...
MD : KKK/TBH, Fu/Cai, Kido/Setiawan,
XD : Zheng/Gao, Sudket/Saralee, Robertson/Emms, Widianto/Marissa??
is what we all want to see, not which country will win(of course is China, no mystery there).
But I think Malaysia IS taking the Sudirman Cup seriously. With the exception of Tan/Woon for XD, we have fielded our strongest lineup. As for Anita's selection against China, there could be two reasons for it. One, to rest WMC for a probable match against Tine Rasmussen, and two, to play Anita at least once in this tournament. Whoever you field to play Zhang Ning is probably futile anyway.
As for the choice for our XD, this is our weakest department, and even our strongest will get shredded by the likes of ENG, THA, CHN, INA, KOR and DEN.
As for Malaysia sending 10 players, who else can you send anyway? I can only think of Choong and Lee for MD.
god, saugusli...
aren't you a negative thinker...
not only your team is not in the first division, yet you dare to condemned other team personally...
rexy is an indonesian, alright..but he is a human being as well...and human should help human..despite skin, colours, nationality...
and what do you mean by 'the malaysia citizen (its malaysian, by the way), nothing to do to them'...?we support our players...and one of the ways by supporting them is to bring someone who can coach them so that they can be the best, be it whether the coach is indonesian or korean or chinese, or anyone...
so what if our coach is not malaysian...at least he is sincere and loves being in malaysia...and we thank him for that....
by the way, before you criticize MAS for having a coach which is not malaysian, why don't you find out who is the coach of ENG's MD....
I don't think he/she is Singaporean, if that is what you imply. Probably as someone has said, an Indonesian residing in Singapore.
Whatever the case, I think we should allow some freedom in expressing personal opinions unless they hurt very badly. :)
OneToughBirdie 06-14-2007, 02:14 AM I had a strong feeling that CHN will beat MAS by 5-0... Come on LCW & KKT/TBH... prove it that i am wrong.. come one..
If LCW lost to LD, then 5-0 for CHN is a real possibility, same for CHN vrs INA if TH lost to LD, then 5-0 for CHN too. Even before MAS play CHN, the scoreline is 3-0 for WS, WD and XD for CHN. Not praising CHN, but just being realistic.
X Ball 06-14-2007, 02:14 AM god, saugusli...
aren't you a negative thinker...
not only your team is not in the first division, yet you dare to condemned other team personally...
rexy is an indonesian, alright..but he is a human being as well...and human should help human..despite skin, colours, nationality...
and what do you mean by 'the malaysia citizen (its malaysian, by the way), nothing to do to them'...?we support our players...and one of the ways by supporting them is to bring someone who can coach them so that they can be the best, be it whether the coach is indonesian or korean or chinese, or anyone...
so what if our coach is not malaysian...at least he is sincere and loves being in malaysia...and we thank him for that....
by the way, before you criticize MAS for having a coach which is not malaysian, why don't you find out who is the coach of ENG's MD....
Cute_TBH, sock it to him baby !:D
Saugusli, I hope you like the 'posting' you are getting here.:D
X Ball 06-14-2007, 02:16 AM If LCW lost to LD, then 5-0 for CHN is a real possibility, same for CHN vrs INA if TH lost to LD, then 5-0 for CHN too. Even before MAS play CHN, the scoreline is 3-0 for WS, WD and XD for CHN. Not praising CHN, but just being realistic.
No you are wrong ! It should be if LCW and KKK-TBH lose, then China winning by 5-0 becomes a possibility.
OneToughBirdie 06-14-2007, 02:23 AM No you are wrong ! It should be if LCW and KKK-TBH lose, then China winning by 5-0 becomes a possibility.
Yeah, you are correct....LD vrs LCW, and TBH/KKK vrs Fu/Cai (if they play) are 50/50, therefore score could be 3-2 for CHN, and the 2 points for MAS would help if and pray the IF would happen, that THAI (our buddy) can help us beat ENG.....I still could not understand how the heck MAS could lose all the Doubles!!!:rolleyes:
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 02:24 AM Agreed ! Only miracles can change it.. very very high change of getting 0-5 for MAS.
If LCW lost to LD, then 5-0 for CHN is a real possibility, same for CHN vrs INA if TH lost to LD, then 5-0 for CHN too. Even before MAS play CHN, the scoreline is 3-0 for WS, WD and XD for CHN. Not praising CHN, but just being realistic.
LI De Quan 06-14-2007, 02:29 AM nice find. here is the photo:
no WONG MC???????????????
twdc08 06-14-2007, 02:31 AM whyy they din select mew choo2 play???at least still got hope2 fight zhang ning maa...haiz....alrdy make the worst decision...==|||
twdc08 06-14-2007, 02:32 AM so when is the match???
madbad 06-14-2007, 02:34 AM 50 mins to go before the 9:30 am matches. Still no official lineups yet.
X Ball 06-14-2007, 02:39 AM no WONG MC???????????????
Even without WMC, MAS thinks they can beat China. :D Wonderful, this should stir LYB into thinking. Maybe LYB would now consider not playing XXF or LD coz if they lose, CHN would be embarassed. Anyway, if MAS loses, MAS can say they did not field their top team members.:D
Krisna 06-14-2007, 02:41 AM Best case scenario for MAS: 3-2 win [with a LCW and KKK-TBH win ...plus some blackout day by China's XD or WD or WS].
Most likely case: 0-5, sorry to say... :o
Anyway, the INA fans are just relaxed observers today...:D We had our exciting day yesterday... with INA coming on top [with the help of DEN, I admit]...
madbad 06-14-2007, 02:42 AM Even without WMC, MAS thinks they can beat China. :D Wonderful, this should stir LYB into thinking. Maybe LYB would now consider not playing XXF or LD coz if they lose, CHN would be embarassed. Anyway, if MAS loses, MAS can say they did not field their top team members.:D
I love the way you think. You should be a politician or snake oil salesman:D:D
hcyong 06-14-2007, 02:42 AM Notice the numbers on the right. Is that the order of the matches? Funny that it should be there. I thought the order is decided after the organiser gets the lineup from both teams.
LI De Quan 06-14-2007, 02:48 AM Order:
MX、WS、WD、MD,MS
Not MS,WS,MD,WD,MX
LYB said he is very disappointed .
He think MS match can't be the last.
There is a dispute over the order of the game between LYB and Chief judge(I find it from SINA)
He said LD PK LEE CW is one of the highlight of the match.
nwy5633 06-14-2007, 02:50 AM i think mew choo muz be get injured in the match of thailand..
tat might be the best answer for why she didn't play today...
robin7 06-14-2007, 02:51 AM I don't think he/she is Singaporean, if that is what you imply. Probably as someone has said, an Indonesian residing in Singapore.
:)
I have the same feeling as Loh. I've been staying in Jakarta for 5 years, therefore I know how "typical Indonesians" think, say and act. I think they have problems in using proper words, which create unnecessary misundertanding. But, he/she almost 'reacted' every post commenting their country INA by the rest. I guess this guy/gal is having more than one ID's.
Well, I just wanna say a few words to "them":
"Whoever you are and wherever you are from, stop posting rubbish and childish comments in this forum and kindly respect the rest from other countries!"
nwy5633 06-14-2007, 02:51 AM Order:
MX、WS、WD、MD,MS
Not MS,WS,MD,WD,MX
LYB said he is very disappointed .
He think MS match can't be the last.
There is a dispute over the order of the game between LYB and Chief judge(I find it from SINA)
with tat lineup...
mas will 100% lose to CHN..
hcyong 06-14-2007, 02:52 AM Notice the numbers on the right. Is that the order of the matches? Funny that it should be there. I thought the order is decided after the organiser gets the lineup from both teams.
Got this from the Sudirman Cup regulation.
14. ORDER OF PLAY
14.1 When nominating his/her team, the Team Manager shall recommend to the Referee a suggested order of play and, at that
time, the Referee shall decide and announce the order of play.
14.2 Any player participating in two matches is entitled to a minimum interval of 30 minutes between them.
Also
13.2 No player shall play in more than two matches.
LI De Quan 06-14-2007, 02:53 AM So maybe there will be a change in order.
Like Han, I feel Malaysia should field its best lineup against China, whatever the outcome. Especially when there is nothing else to lose or win if England should beat Thailand.
It will be a chance for the best of both countries to cross swords and evalute their performance in preperation for the forthcoming World Championships in KL. It is not often that you see the best fighting it out in individual championships such as the current Super Series.
How often will WMC be given a chance to meet ZN, for example? And even for LCW to meet LD is not regular fare since TH, BCL, CY,PG and now even Boonsak may be in the way to prevent such a meeting.
The same goes with the other events, especially the MD, when Malaysia's top pair seems to be a little off-form recently.
And more importantly, badminton fans should not be deprived of a chance to watch top class action in the badminton courts.
X Ball 06-14-2007, 02:56 AM I love the way you think. You should be a politician or snake oil salesman:D:D
How do you know I am not one ?;) Anyway, the saying goes : it takes one to know one. I must confess I may not be a great as you in selling snake oil.:D
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:01 AM with tat lineup...
mas will 100% lose to CHN..
So you're implying that in another order Malaysia stands a better chance of not "100% losing to China"? :confused:
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:02 AM with tat lineup...
mas will 100% lose to CHN..
Doesnt really matter to me though, i mean the sequence for squad standing :cool: They are going to separate XD with WD / MD sooner or later isnt.
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:03 AM How do you know I am not one ?;) Anyway, the saying goes : it takes one to know one. I must confess I may not be a great as you in selling snake oil.:D
Nah, I don't think so :p. Snake business is not so good here in Canada. Besides you're much more caustic, that being the head to head tiebreaker:D
markchan 06-14-2007, 03:03 AM I think the ideal line up shud be the much used format of XD,MS.WS.MD and WD. With this format the whole match can turn out to be a thriller if both LCW and KKK/TBH win their matches. Other wise the tie may be 3-0 even before the MD is played......haiz...
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:03 AM Hi Kwun,
How u can get the pic? U are there or u have link with the organisation?? U are the MAN !!!
no WONG MC???????????????
CLELY 06-14-2007, 03:05 AM CHN >< MAS -- 4-1, can't see MAS has an opportunity to wrap CHN. Lost to ENG in opening match last Monday is really give huge trouble for MAS. Koo/Tan has best capability to prevent CHN to realize whitewash again. And LD vs LCW, 5-2 for LD from head-to-head statistics where two LCW victories booked in Malaysia meanwhile LCW was always failed in last 3 duels. Bad record, seems hardest task for LCW.
ENG >< THA -- 3-2, ENG will maximize their efforts to win this last match in group-stage and the chance is very open for lastfour episode, three points will claimed by ENG through WS-MD-WD and THA catch MS-XD points.
So, Saturday semifinal contestants will be quite similar with 2 years ago event, CHN vs KOR and INA vs ENG (DEN in 2005).
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:05 AM I think the ideal line up shud be the much used format of XD,MS.WS.MD and WD. With this format the whole match can turn out to be a thriller if both LCW and KKK/TBH win their matches. Other wise the tie may be 3-0 even before the MD is played......haiz...
Dont fed up yet, the game is yet to start isnt :o If they can do it, anything is possible to me. Dont agree with ideal line-up...
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:05 AM 20 mins to go and still no line-ups. The organizers are keeping us all hanging
X Ball 06-14-2007, 03:09 AM Nah, I don't think so :p. Snake business is not so good here in Canada. Besides you're much more caustic, that being the head to head tiebreaker:D
What me caustic ? When ?:D
nwy5633 06-14-2007, 03:09 AM ths 1st match will be GAO Ling/ZHENG Bo vs TAN Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
as show on live score table..
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:11 AM **** ! MAS sure lost..
ths 1st match will be GAO Ling/ZHENG Bo vs TAN Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
as show on live score table..
vellin 06-14-2007, 03:12 AM Although it's hard for MAS to bt CHN, i still hope that MAS can go to semifinal. At least be the group runner-up. I will pray for MAS and Thailand.
Malaysia Boleh...
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:14 AM ths 1st match will be GAO Ling/ZHENG Bo vs TAN Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
as show on live score table..
MY God, so so so nervous ...........
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:14 AM ths 1st match will be GAO Ling/ZHENG Bo vs TAN Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei
as show on live score table..
I guess LYB didn't get his way after all;)
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:16 AM I think the ideal line up shud be the much used format of XD,MS.WS.MD and WD. With this format the whole match can turn out to be a thriller if both LCW and KKK/TBH win their matches. Other wise the tie may be 3-0 even before the MD is played......haiz...
With the possibility of THA winning over ENG, MAS knows that every point may count. Therefore, even if losing, MAS has the incentive to win a point or two.
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:16 AM MY God, so so so nervous ...........
You, nervous? Imagine how the MAS youngsters must be feeling:D
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:16 AM Who decide the line up one? This kind of line up is not fair to MAS..MD & MS for MAS by the time is a warm up match.. and more of personal to personal.. not interesting to the whole CHN vs MAS anymore..
Order:
MX、WS、WD、MD,MS
Not MS,WS,MD,WD,MX
LYB said he is very disappointed .
He think MS match can't be the last.
There is a dispute over the order of the game between LYB and Chief judge(I find it from SINA)
He said LD PK LEE CW is one of the highlight of the match.
LI De Quan 06-14-2007, 03:17 AM The chief judge fell into a quarrel with LYB just now,I think.
LI De Quan 06-14-2007, 03:18 AM Who decide the line up one? This kind of line up is not fair to MAS..MD & MS for MAS by the time is a warm up match.. and more of personal to personal.. not interesting to the whole CHN vs MAS anymore..
The chief judge ,LYB was not agree with the order.
He said MS can't be the last one.
(From SINA)
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:21 AM You, nervous? Imagine how the MAS youngsters must be feeling:D
Yeah, moreover, i personally think Gao Ling/Zheng Bo are very calm players, ha ha, but i see khe wei / wei keong are very compatible though, CUte ! Hope they will shine one day even if they lose (win please, lol) :D
nwy5633 06-14-2007, 03:23 AM i think tat lineup is choose by mas team 1..
coz the order is write on mas part..
maybe YKH think tat after chn win, they will play in less pressure so more easy to win 1 point or 2...
nugroho 06-14-2007, 03:26 AM nothing is moving on the livescore board.. could anyone givu me some info about what's happen?
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:26 AM You, nervous? Imagine how the MAS youngsters must be feeling:D
In the KKK/TBH documentary, KKK was commenting that everyone else (his parents, relatives, fans, etc. etc.) was very nervous, but on the court, he was not nervous at all.
I actually think the fans are more nervous than the players, because the players have to concentrate on the match in hand.
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:29 AM Why LYB also not agree with the line up? This line up beneficially to CHN..Anymore really know who decide the line up? Is it by draw or wat?
The chief judge ,LYB was not agree with the order.
He said MS can't be the last one.
(From SINA)
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:30 AM I don't think MAS can decide the line up..If MAS can decide i believe CHN also want to decide.. at the end who decide?
i think tat lineup is choose by mas team 1..
coz the order is write on mas part..
maybe YKH think tat after chn win, they will play in less pressure so more easy to win 1 point or 2...
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:32 AM 5 all now................ gosh
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:33 AM very close match at the moment........
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:35 AM CHN pulling away 10-7
shyeling 06-14-2007, 03:36 AM i only hope that m'sia can win even though is difficult...
if m'sia lost with 4-1 or 3-2 (not 5-0), thailand sure play hard so that they won't b last in this group..
gambate both m'sia n thai...
niezzam6177 06-14-2007, 03:36 AM Malaysia Bolehhh!!!
Woon Khe Wei lookss cute! :D;);)
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:36 AM CHN reach the interval up 11-9
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 03:38 AM very close match at the moment........
If CHN falls behind MAS in XD, hope GL does not start scolding ZB like in the previous tournament. Poor guy . . . . not everyday we see CHN women having upper hand over their men.
Go MAS . . . Go
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:38 AM i only hope that m'sia can win even though is difficult...
if m'sia lost with 4-1 or 3-2 (not 5-0), thailand sure play hard so that they won't b last in this group..
gambate both m'sia n thai...
Even if Malaysia lost 5-0, THA will also surely play hard. If they lose, they will surely finish bottom. Only if they win can they avoid the bottom.
jerby 06-14-2007, 03:39 AM so, when will it start? which channel is airing it?
GD-sports and at 9:30 scotland time?
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:39 AM CHN up 12-11 but have won 10 of their points by "Other". This could mean the MAS pair could be commiting quite a few unforced errors due to nerves.
Linus 06-14-2007, 03:40 AM I don't think MAS can decide the line up..If MAS can decide i believe CHN also want to decide.. at the end who decide?
There is no need of guessing, just check it out yourself. Here is the Sudirman Cup rules and regulation governing the order of play:
14. ORDER OF PLAY
14.1 When nominating his/her team, the Team Manager shall recommend to the Referee a suggested order of play and, at that
time, the Referee shall decide and announce the order of play.
14.2 Any player participating in two matches is entitled to a minimum interval of 30 minutes between them.
MAL must have suggested the order and the umpire agrees to it. China must have realised that too late and hence the argument.
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:40 AM MAS youngsters hanging on tenaciously down 13-14
PlayaFromMalaya 06-14-2007, 03:41 AM wow malaysian pair not doing that bad! their actually pretty good!
orchiid 06-14-2007, 03:41 AM BCL is commentating the game on cctv5 now, a little shy :)
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:42 AM My God, still chasing..... and BC start to flood now, help !
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:43 AM Page loading slower now.......... gosh GO GO GO Malaysia !
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 03:43 AM My God, still chasing..... and BC start to flood now, help !
Sorry, What "BC" means?
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:43 AM China takes the first SET ...........
Linus 06-14-2007, 03:44 AM China XD won the 1st set 21:15.
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:44 AM CHN-MAS 1st set 1st game 21-15.. No....
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:44 AM CHN veterans at game point 20-15 and they clinch the 1st game
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:45 AM Sorry, What "BC" means?
Actually should be BF : Badminton Central Discussion Forums, but dunno why BCers termed it as BC = Badminton Central ? :rolleyes::rolleyes:
V3i HoN6 06-14-2007, 03:45 AM There goes the first game.
Try harder Malaysian pair please. For us your supporter back home.
niezzam6177 06-14-2007, 03:46 AM Sorry, What "BC" means?
Badminton Central forum... :)
Msian junior play aint that bad. They need more exposure to become a good XD...
nugroho 06-14-2007, 03:46 AM MAS youngster are not bad at all... they put a good fight againts CHN.... qong ci qong ci
nwy5633 06-14-2007, 03:47 AM too many unforced error by malaysian pair...
haiz...
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:47 AM Interesting! not sure will BCL commentating the Game between LD vs LCW
BCL is commentating the game on cctv5 now, a little shy :)
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:48 AM CHn now handling the MAS juniors with ease up 5-0
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:48 AM Oh No...MAS down 6-0..
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:48 AM MY GOD, 0 (Msia) -6 (China)
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:49 AM oh no.. my "dream" come through....
MY GOD, 0 (Msia) -6 (China)
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:50 AM CHN up 12-11 but have won 10 of their points by "Other". This could mean the MAS pair could be commiting quite a few unforced errors due to nerves.
Don't trust the statistics. Not reliable.
PlayaFromMalaya 06-14-2007, 03:50 AM bc = badminton central...aww..their not doing well in the second game..
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 03:50 AM Has 2nd set started? Update, pls pls.......many thanks
nugroho 06-14-2007, 03:50 AM translator.... what do they said about indonesia? i'm wondering right now...
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:51 AM Looks like first point goes CHN easily....3-9
Linus 06-14-2007, 03:51 AM China XD leading 9:5 now.
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:52 AM Usually, it's like that. The youngsters come out firing to prove themselves, and the veterans take their time to assert their authority.
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 03:53 AM Hope MAS XD pair gain valuable experience. This is what Rexy wanted as he feels this pair has potential.
zqloy 06-14-2007, 03:53 AM Crap its raining heavily outside. Astro is useless.
Linus 06-14-2007, 03:54 AM Second set went into break at 11:8 to China favour. Malaysia pair not that far off.
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:54 AM 11-8 interval.....Good job MAS
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:55 AM Crap its raining heavily outside. Astro is useless.
Damn, that's funny:D:D
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 03:55 AM Crap its raining heavily outside. Astro is useless.
Stop complaining, at least you get to see Live. SIN SCV tv is hopeless and very expensive. Sports channels (3X) to them mean football, and more football. MAS 1 up on this over SIN. Boleh MAS TV
Linus 06-14-2007, 03:56 AM Wow, Malaysia XD pull to 11:11!!!
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:56 AM Again, MAS makes a charge and level it at 11-11. Kind of similar pattern to the 1st game.
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:56 AM 2nd game resumed...12-11 MAS ahead
angelatby 06-14-2007, 03:57 AM GOSH, please keep it up MALAYSIA ! ! ! 14-11 leading now
Linus 06-14-2007, 03:57 AM Malaysia XD leadinh 14:11!!!
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:57 AM MAS has run off 6 in a row and are now up 14-11
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:57 AM 14-12 MAS up....great net play
LI De Quan 06-14-2007, 03:58 AM Order
MX,WS,MD,WD,MS
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:58 AM The expereinced Chines are not getting flustered and chip away, down 13-14
zqloy 06-14-2007, 03:58 AM Stop complaining, at least you get to see Live. SIN SCV tv is hopeless and very expensive. Sports channels (3X) to them mean football, and more football. MAS 1 up on this over SIN. Boleh MAS TV
Lol just kinda annoyed when its rains, couldnt see a damn thing! Argghhh.....
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:58 AM Hmmm, I am pleasantly surprised by the tenacity shown by Tan/Woon. I still think they will lose, but the future looks rosy. Hope they can win, though. That'll be something.
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:58 AM 14-14........Come on MAS
madbad 06-14-2007, 03:59 AM Let's see how the youngsters handle this end game situation. MAS up 16-15
robin7 06-14-2007, 03:59 AM 16-15.....Jia You........
hcyong 06-14-2007, 03:59 AM Lol just kinda annoyed when its rains, couldnt see a damn thing! Argghhh.....
That's the problem with satellites.
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 03:59 AM ANY ONE is REXY there?
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:00 AM Stop complaining, at least you get to see Live. SIN SCV tv is hopeless and very expensive. Sports channels (3X) to them mean football, and more football. MAS 1 up on this over SIN. Boleh MAS TV
Well, SCV is showing the Semi Final and Final live this weekend! Don't know about you, I'm pretty happy with this! :)
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:00 AM As expected the CHN duo bide their time and pull even ahead 17-16
zqloy 06-14-2007, 04:00 AM ANY ONE is REXY there?
Nope din see him.
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:01 AM 17-16 CHN up.......
CaesarZ 06-14-2007, 04:01 AM Rexy is not there.
Does anyone know why?
angelatby 06-14-2007, 04:01 AM MY GOD, why are they treating me like this, im getting nervous now @$%&@%$&@%&(%#@&#%(&%#%#
vching 06-14-2007, 04:02 AM come on MALAYSIA!!!
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:02 AM China XD lead now 18:17. Experience is now catching up with the youth!
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 04:02 AM Any idea why Rexy is not in Scotland?
Nope din see him.
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:02 AM MY GOD, why are they treating me like this, im getting nervous now @$%&@%$&@%&(%#@&#%(&%#%#
Control, Angela. Watch you blood pressure!
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:02 AM Looks like the CHN pair has timed it well up 19-17. 1st CHN point in sight
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 04:02 AM Well, SCV is showing the Semi Final and Final live this weekend! Don't know about you, I'm pretty happy with this! :)
SCV Channel 21.
15/6 (Fri) - 430pm to 530am
16/6 (Sat) - 7pm to 4am
17/6 (Sun) - 8pm to 12mn
This is what I got from SCV website.
Cheers
badcliq 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM nth to be nervous about really....XD m'sia not gonna win....too big of a difference....
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM 19-17 CHN up.......
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM China XD won the match 21:15, 21:17. Good fight Malaysia.
vching 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM damn.... china won as expected...
angelatby 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM Ending soon............
xymaerts 06-14-2007, 04:03 AM no miracle
CHN 1 MAS 0
abedeng 06-14-2007, 04:04 AM Excellent performance by MAS young XD, they lost this one but had great fighting spirit, esp. being 1-7 down in 2nd game.
angelatby 06-14-2007, 04:05 AM Control, Angela. Watch you blood pressure!
Ha Ha, sacrifice myself for them instead of posting riddles :o Sore throat now :(
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:05 AM CHN wins 21-15, 21-17. Definitely a lack of experience cost MAS the 2nd game as they had a shot of closing it out. I guess that's why BAM sent the 2 young 'uns to such a big tournament–to gain experience and hopefully learn from it.
CHINA 1 MALAYSIA 0
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:06 AM Ha Ha, sacrifice myself for them instead of posting riddles :o Sore throat now :(
Screaming at your TV is a sure sign of luncay:D;)
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:06 AM Next up WS. ZN vs Anita Kaur.
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:07 AM OK, I'll bet anyone Anita won't get more than 20 points in total against ZN. Any takers?
angelatby 06-14-2007, 04:07 AM MY GOD, Anita is on the court, i wanna faint almost...........
niezzam6177 06-14-2007, 04:08 AM Good game by the junior eventhough they lost especially a comeback in the 2nd set... They'll get better if they play in more tournament n exposure..
Mas Bolehhh!! :)
hopefully Malaysia can do the BEST, Indonesia will waiting for, :D
vching 06-14-2007, 04:09 AM Anita on court...
err... beat zhang ning!!!
nevermind that shes the queen of badminton :'(
xt6666 06-14-2007, 04:09 AM Why does MAL uses such a weak lineup?!?
They don't want to get to the semi final right?
Or is WMC injured?
niezzam6177 06-14-2007, 04:10 AM OK, I'll bet anyone Anita won't get more than 20 points in total against ZN. Any takers?
One thing for sure is ZN won't get more than 42 point in total against Anita, :D
indra 06-14-2007, 04:11 AM hopefully Malaysia can do the BEST, Indonesia will waiting for, :D
actually Ina prefers meeting China in SF to meeting England...It is easiear for Ina to defeat China than ENgland :D
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:11 AM MAS juniors have a bright future...They will certainly come back and make an impact next SC...for sure.....
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:11 AM One thing for sure is ZN won't get more than 42 point in total against Anita, :D
Unless it goes to a rubber.... no, you're right:D
badcliq 06-14-2007, 04:12 AM It might be a suprise attack from MAS since CHN is not familar with Anita
They could have watched hundreds of vidoes of WMC, but perhaps almost none of Anita.
So I guess they hope Anita can quickly pull a miracle!! As long as she's not intimidated too much by ZN, Anita could still have a slim chance!
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:12 AM actually Ina prefers meeting China in SF to meeting England...It is easiear for Ina to defeat China than ENgland :D
Welcome Indra. We don't hear much from you lately
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:12 AM Anita got the 1st point...
Jimmy_Goh 06-14-2007, 04:12 AM OK, I'll bet anyone Anita won't get more than 20 points in total against ZN. Any takers?
Like in the XD, I think Anita will get more than 20 pts. This new pointing system will allow weaker players to take risk and attack and get on the score sheet.
No betting, just 'Go MAS . . .. Go'
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:13 AM Anita up 4-1!:eek::eek: The world is coming to an end :D
hcyong 06-14-2007, 04:13 AM Thinking back on the match order, stategy-wise, it's to Malaysia's slight advantage to play the MD and MS last. When China has already won (3-0), that is when Malaysia has the best chance to snatch a point, to take advantage in case THA actually beat ENG.
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:14 AM Like in the XD, I think Anita will get more than 20 pts. This new pointing system will allow weaker players to take risk and attack and get on the score sheet.
No betting, just 'Go MAS . . .. Go'
Well, she's only got 16 more to get to prove me wrong
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:14 AM Anita leading 4-2.....
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:14 AM Ur.... She has 5 points now already....
jsteve 06-14-2007, 04:15 AM Agree. Now that SIN has cleared the first difficult hurdle by barely beating TPE, hope that SIN can do likewise to JPN.
JPN should be stronger in WS and WD and SIN in MS and MD. So, much hinges on the XD, in my opinion. Only thing is that JPN may surprise by playing the young Kenichi Tago in MS instead of the regular Shoji Sato, but I think our boys should be able to handle both.
Don't worry:-) Earlier JPN should beat Poland... This is not sure.
indra 06-14-2007, 04:16 AM Welcome Indra. We don't hear much from you lately
Thanks..madbad ...Yes...I have been traveling out of town recently...busy-..busy..working...But I am now back:D
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:17 AM What "Other" means under the statistics? Could it be unforced errors?
actually Ina prefers meeting China in SF to meeting England...It is easiear for Ina to defeat China than ENgland :D
NIH Bocah giliran INA dah menang aja, senyum2 :D gw juga sih :D :D
hopefully INA can do the best tomorrow in SF, and can be a thief of this cup by picking up 3 poits from MS, MD, and MXD, HOPEFULLY :D
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:18 AM ZN ahead now 9-8....
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:18 AM Remainder of the CHN-MAS schedule:
WS Ning Zhang - Anita Raj Kaur
MD Yun Cai/Haifeng Fu - Kien Keat Koo/Boon Heong Tan
WD Wei Yang/Tinting Zhao - Pei Tty Wong/Eei Hui Chin
MS Dan Lin - Chong Wei Lee
Interesting CHN pair for the WD...
badcliq 06-14-2007, 04:18 AM Zn read Anita;s play already...game over soon
Misty100 06-14-2007, 04:19 AM please someone, anyone, keep posting the score. I can't view the LIVEScore from my office. And, it's raining dogs and cats in KL now... so heavy, surely flashflood all over the city. I can't get home in time. Can someone or anyone pls keep posting? Thanks a lot.
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:20 AM ZN lead 11:9 at the break.
Quite similar story in both match: the young and fearless came out with a charge, but then teh experience one slowly and steadily gain back the advantage.
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:20 AM Zn read Anita;s play already...game over soon
Yes, I'm afarid so. But Anita's only got 11 more points to reach the 20 I had generously given her
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:21 AM Oddly enough, Anita's taken the lead 12-11. Strange indeed :eek:
robin7 06-14-2007, 04:21 AM Game resumed...12-11 MAS up
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:22 AM ZN now lead 15:12.
spchu 06-14-2007, 04:23 AM Anita can held her head high after this... Keep on the pressure Malaysia.
madbad 06-14-2007, 04:23 AM Anita hanging in there down 14-15
Linus 06-14-2007, 04:23 AM It's 16:14 now to ZN.
Madbad, looks like Anita may take more than 30 points!
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