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tbleong
06-14-2007, 05:24 AM
KKK TBH always lose without Rexy,, very disapoited !!

khwong
06-14-2007, 05:25 AM
They are like a headless chicken without Rexy

blessing
06-14-2007, 05:49 AM
watta happen..? rexy didnt go for sudirman cup..?

taufik-ist
06-14-2007, 05:52 AM
by sending only 1 MD , it makes a big pressure to TBH/kkk, it sends a message to them "you must win or your team will 'collapse' " and look at them ,they played like 'unknown player' (lost to Eng pair and lost tamely to cai/fu)

Blurry D
06-14-2007, 05:53 AM
I am quite disappointed with them..I had high hopes with them...I think LWW and CTF would have done better..

phaarix
06-14-2007, 06:03 AM
I think LWW and CTF would have done better..

Yeah me too... I still have confidence in KKK/TBH for the future though. I love watching them play when they're fired up :).

ycchen
06-14-2007, 06:15 AM
i think Rexy should put more hope on Zakry and Fairuz in World Championships...i strongly believe Zakry and Fairuz will perform better than Koo/Tan in August....

vellin
06-14-2007, 07:15 AM
I think LWW/CTF is the best. They are independent. not like KKK/TBH who rely too much on rexy..

amaze
06-14-2007, 09:16 AM
Give them a chance ! They are still young... young in age and young in partnership..... and give them a break, people ! Just look at LCW... they will come back. I believe their characters are strong enough to do just that.

All we need to do is - moral support.

gsloh
06-14-2007, 09:20 AM
Give them a chance ! They are still young... young in age and young in partnership..... and give them a break, people ! Just look at LCW... they will come back. I believe their characters are strong enough to do just that.

All we need to do is - moral support.

MOST DEFINITELY AGREE!!!!!!!!!!!!! :):):):)

badMania
06-14-2007, 09:25 AM
Looks like...the early end to an era...

XtC-604
06-14-2007, 10:12 AM
i think H F F U is the best =p along with Y CAI =p

I know them so well, i know how their jersies are abbr.

danielle
06-14-2007, 10:59 AM
Give them some space guys....CTF/LWW also had their grief moments before. Last time, they were also regarded as giving yo-yo performances. Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng also had their day before. They too played for quite sometime before emerging as world champions. So, don't just bash Kien Kiat-Boon Heong with non-encouraging words. They are still young. They can play; just that perhaps they cannot stand the pressure that they are facing. LCW took almost a year to bounce back. Give them time. I believe they will be on the top again. All they need now is support. Lets just pray for them. :)When players emerged as champions, we respect them, admire and give endless support to them. But when they are facing their bad days, we just bash them. Whatever it is, I will always support Kien Kiat-Boon Heong. Just leave the past behind and move on! Jia you, hao ma?:p

cao ci dan
06-14-2007, 11:07 AM
Give them some space guys....:)When players emerged as champions, we respect them, admire and give endless support to them. But when they are facing their bad days, we just bash them....Just leave the past behind and move on!
Yea,;) People only remember the champions...not the losers..
:) Fu/Cai played better...that's why Koo/Tan lost!Not because Rexy was not there...

vellin
06-14-2007, 11:16 AM
[quote=danielle;595733]Give them some space guys....CTF/LWW also had their grief moments before. Last time, they were also regarded as giving yo-yo performances. Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng also had their day before. They too played for quite sometime before emerging as world champions. So, don't just bash Kien Kiat-Boon Heong with non-encouraging words. They are still young. They can play; just that perhaps they cannot stand the pressure that they are facing. LCW took almost a year to bounce back. Give them time. I believe they will be on the top again. All they need now is support. Lets just pray for them. :)When players emerged as champions, we respect them, admire and give endless support to them. But when they are facing their bad days, we just bash them. Whatever it is, I will always support Kien Kiat-Boon Heong. Just leave the past behind and move on! Jia you, hao ma?:p[/quote

You're right. :) I will always support KKK/TBH too. But I think they rely too much on rexy. They have to be independent.. If they can win without rexy, I believe they can be the world #1. And of course they have to change their strategy. Good luck guyz.. Jia you!!!

V3i HoN6
06-14-2007, 11:25 AM
Yea,;) People only remember the champions...not the losers..
:) Fu/Cai played better...that's why Koo/Tan lost!Not because Rexy was not there...
Is it fair if I say the same thing in MS?
LCW play better, that's why Cao Ci Dan lost?

cao ci dan
06-14-2007, 11:29 AM
Is it fair if I say the same thing in MS?
LCW play better, that's why Cao Ci Dan lost?
haha...OF COURSE!!you can said so...no excuse for LD too!
:) Congratulations to Lee Chong Wei...

virusvoodoo
06-14-2007, 01:21 PM
Give them some space guys....CTF/LWW also had their grief moments before. Last time, they were also regarded as giving yo-yo performances. Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng also had their day before. They too played for quite sometime before emerging as world champions. So, don't just bash Kien Kiat-Boon Heong with non-encouraging words. They are still young. They can play; just that perhaps they cannot stand the pressure that they are facing. LCW took almost a year to bounce back. Give them time. I believe they will be on the top again. All they need now is support. Lets just pray for them. :)When players emerged as champions, we respect them, admire and give endless support to them. But when they are facing their bad days, we just bash them. Whatever it is, I will always support Kien Kiat-Boon Heong. Just leave the past behind and move on! Jia you, hao ma?:p


That may be true but I really doubt it because wasn't Rexy there at the Indonesian/Singapore Open this year but Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun still managed to beat Koo Kien Kiet & Tan Boon Heong? I really think these guys should rethink their strategies and find new ones to counter the Chinese pair because Fu & Cai are dominating at the moment.

I really hate to see anyone or pair dominating and Koo & Tan stand the best chance to challenge Fu & Cai. Candra Wijaya & Tony Gunawan along with Jens Eriksens & Martin Lungaard-Hansen and Jonas Rasmussen & Lars Passke are getting too old. The others like Markis Kidho & Hendra Setiawan haven't been consistent enough but they are still learning and improving.

Han
06-14-2007, 01:45 PM
by sending only 1 MD , it makes a big pressure to TBH/kkk, it sends a message to them "you must win or your team will 'collapse' " and look at them ,they played like 'unknown player' (lost to Eng pair and lost tamely to cai/fu)

it also means KKK/TBH is not good enough. I think now that this pair is exposed and the oppoenents have studied well about their games, it's harder for them to win relying too much on strategy alone. Rexy/Ricky won many titles not just because they had good strategies but also they played power game which KKK/TBH is still lacked off in consistent basis.

ctjcad
06-14-2007, 04:24 PM
That may be true but I really doubt it because wasn't Rexy there at the Indonesian/Singapore Open this year but Fu Haifeng & Cai Yun still managed to beat Koo Kien Kiet & Tan Boon Heong?
..yes, that is correct...And it was their 1st defeat *with* Rexy coaching them...;)

it also means KKK/TBH is not good enough. I think now that this pair is exposed and the oppoenents have studied well about their games, it's harder for them to win relying too much on strategy alone. Rexy/Ricky won many titles not just because they had good strategies but also they played power game which KKK/TBH is still lacked off in consistent basis.
..yes, for some reason, they are a bit off tilt for now:confused:..And yes, i did mention something similart after their Indonesian Open's Semifinal's match against CY&FHF. Basically, during that match, esp. after the 1st set, CY&FHF didn't allow KKK&TBH's "flat-drives" game to flourish in the subsequent sets. Rather, when forced to play a "normal" MD style, the MAS pair seemed to be unable to break-thru the CHN's pair's defense; in short, KKK&TBH still lack that consistent power(smash) game. Their defense, also, needs to be tightened.;)

cute_tbh
06-14-2007, 07:25 PM
watched the game yesterday...

kkk is getting back to his form..but...
sadly, he was not supported well by my dearie tbh (i like him, yup...but yesterday..he was.......lacking of EVERYTHING)...

it's a double game, if only one perform, still could not win...
kkk and tbh need to have a very serious talk together...
not to blame anyone, but to solve their problem...

yesterday, tbh was out of drive, out of skills, out of energy...
and yup, they were out of communication...
no more tapping, no more apologizing, no more moral boasting compliment....

they really need to do something....WC is just around the corner...and with rexy wants to rest them by not participating in CHN open, they only have THA open (is it?) to regain their best form....

their performance yesterday..fuh...even zakry/fairuzizuan played better in the IO final...

wake up call kkk and tbh!!!!!
jia you!gambate neh!
Malaysia Boleh!!!!!

bcmmgr
06-14-2007, 07:44 PM
Their performance yesterday, seem any average pair can beat them,
their attach lack of power, defence is weak, flat-drives lack of speed...etc.

Not agree with "this pair is exposed and the oppoenents have studied well about their games", if this is the point, those senior pair has been exposed for 5-10 years must be lost all the time cause the oppoenents have studied them for 5-10 years....?? KKK/TBH just don't improve after AE. and didn't do their home work well.

Agree that player some time will have their down turn, but if they are world class player, even down turn, they shouldn't lost in less then 10 points, what a shame.

Agree with Cute_tbh, "they were out of communication...
no more tapping, no more apologizing, no more moral boasting compliment...",
something wrong with their relationship......

cute_tbh
06-14-2007, 07:50 PM
hate to admit it..but yup...
it's a shame that they lost in less than 10 points....

i was so shocked that i'm sure even my cat would be shocked seeing the impression of my face yesterday....

but, i will live up to my words....
and i will always support them no matter what...

come on kkk...come on tbh...
wake up!!!!!!!
Malaysia needs you!!!!!
Malaysia boleh!!!

lipans
06-14-2007, 08:09 PM
Very disappointing game by KKK/TBH. Loss with point less than 10 make it worse.

Malaysia should forget about this pair and rely on other pair that does not win anything yet. Once they won something big, forget about them, and rely on other pair that still on't win anything yet......

Jimmy_Goh
06-14-2007, 08:11 PM
hate to admit it..but yup...
it's a shame that they lost in less than 10 points....

i was so shocked that i'm sure even my cat would be shocked seeing the impression of my face yesterday....

but, i will live up to my words....
and i will always support them no matter what...

come on kkk...come on tbh...
wake up!!!!!!!
Malaysia needs you!!!!!
Malaysia boleh!!!
Though I did not see them play in SC, but given their reputation and having already won several big tournaments, it is disappointing to see them losing tamely in SC.
Well, lets see Rexy work some magic . . . . . given that he has just renewed his contract with BAM for another 2 years.
I still think Malaysian men's double (both new and old 'bird') are the most exciting lot in the present era.
Go, KKK/TBH.
Go, LWW/CTF,
Go, Malaysia Boleh, Go

Darien
06-14-2007, 08:55 PM
hahaha....glory within 6 months, slump within a year!
like a speed of lightning ;-)

X Ball
06-14-2007, 09:00 PM
Very disappointing game by KKK/TBH. Loss with point less than 10 make it worse.

Malaysia should forget about this pair and rely on other pair that does not win anything yet. Once they won something big, forget about them, and rely on other pair that still on't win anything yet......

What if they come back later and bite everybody ?:D

danielle
06-14-2007, 10:10 PM
Very disappointing game by KKK/TBH. Loss with point less than 10 make it worse.

Malaysia should forget about this pair and rely on other pair that does not win anything yet. Once they won something big, forget about them, and rely on other pair that still on't win anything yet......

Ish... I believe all champions had their grief moments... They had a transition period to gain their confidence back and climb to the top again. Come on, I believe Kien Kiat-Boon Heong did not want this to happen either. They are still young. Even we ourselves face failures in our life. We also need time to bounce back, isnt it? The same thing with kien kiat-boon heong. The difference is they are facing pressure from everyone; all those who had high hopes on them. All they need now is support. Lets just pray for them and stop bashing them with non-encouraging words. They had won some major titles, and I never think that its wise for us to forget about them or any other players. All players should be given a chance to improve. Chong Wei has been given a chance and he has proved it. Now, its your turn; kien kiat-boon heong. Jia you, o! :p

danielle
06-14-2007, 10:19 PM
You're right. :) I will always support KKK/TBH too. But I think they rely too much on rexy. They have to be independent.. If they can win without rexy, I believe they can be the world #1. And of course they have to change their strategy. Good luck guyz.. Jia you!!!

I agree with you... ya, I also think like that. I hope they will try their best to cool down and gain their confidence back again. I really miss the old kien kiat-boon heong; their fierce personality on courts, steadfast and brave. :p I hope to see that soon.... Jia you!

Misty100
06-14-2007, 10:28 PM
Flash in the pan!!! Back to basic.

Inky2000
06-14-2007, 10:49 PM
I agree with you... ya, I also think like that. I hope they will try their best to cool down and gain their confidence back again. I really miss the old kien kiat-boon heong; their fierce personality on courts, steadfast and brave. :p I hope to see that soon.... Jia you!

When I was on vacation in Hong Kong last week (early Jun), I watched the news program on the Mandarin-speaking cable TV channel "Phoenix News" which had a brief interview with Han Jian who is now training teenage shuttlers in Malaysia. HJ told the reporter that "according to his observation", "a Malaysian MD pair" (no further information on which pair that he referred to) is the hot favourite to win the first OG Gold Medal for Malaysia. What is your reaction if you hear this from HJ?

Darien
06-14-2007, 11:18 PM
When I was on vacation in Hong Kong last week (early Jun), I watched the news program on the Mandarin-speaking cable TV channel "Phoenix News" which had a brief interview with Han Jian who is now training teenage shuttlers in Malaysia. HJ told the reporter that "according to his observation", "a Malaysian MD pair" (no further information on which pair that he referred to) is the hot favourite to win the first OG Gold Medal for Malaysia. What is your reaction if you hear this from HJ?

he got an Alzheimer's disease.

X Ball
06-15-2007, 12:23 AM
Flash in the pan!!! Back to basic.

Maybe so but I think winning 4 tournaments is not exactly that. I like to think it is only a lapse. Tiger Woods went through a patch after starting off successfully but then came back like a tornado.

I think KKK-TBH will probably work harder now that they are suffering a bit. I think between now and the WC, they should get their act together again. I would like to think that this is the lull before the storm for them - they lull everybody into thinking that they can be forgotten and then whammo, they win the WC. It will the story of the year if they do that.:D

hcyong
06-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Win a few tournaments and send them to heaven.
Lose a few tournaments and cast them to hell.

bcmmgr
06-15-2007, 01:20 AM
Win a few tournaments and send them to heaven.
Lose a few tournaments and cast them to hell.

we don't want to do that, but the problem is they promise us right after All England,

the coach said "we will keep them up and stay consistance, and Hazif case won't happend"

the coach also said "other pair will start investage their strategy and find solution, we will know what to do and make sure they maintenance up front"

KKK/TBH also said "they will work hard keep consistance"

so, of couse, we believe they know want to do......

Agree player will have a cycle of low form, but as a world class player, even in the low form/down turn, losing with score under 10 is not acceptable.
and some more since AE, they keep said they know what to do.

Inky2000
06-15-2007, 01:33 AM
Agree player will have a cycle of low form, but as a world class player, even in the low form/down turn, losing with score under 10 is not acceptable.
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Well, "losing with score under 10" (let's say it's equivalent to scorig under 6 under the old 15-point system) has happened to LD and FHF/CY's from time to time after they were hailed as world class players - not necessarily when they were World No.1).

LD
WC'03 - beaten by XXZ (10-15, 3-15)
China Open'05 - beaten by Chen Hong (5-15, 8-15)
WC'05 - beaten by TH (3-15, 7-15)
TC'06 - beaten by TH (16-21, 8-21)

CY/FHF
AE'06 - beaten by Lin Woon Fui/Mohd Tazari (3-15, 6-15)
AG'06 - beaten by KKK/TBH (9-21, 19-21)

zqloy
06-15-2007, 01:47 AM
KKK/TBH should learn from their big bro LCW, even LWW/CTF; on how they comeback after some disappointing performance, although am still quite pissed over their clearly "dreaming" performance yerterday, but still hope they will become more mature in games.

bcmmgr
06-15-2007, 02:13 AM
Well, "losing with score under 10" (let's say it's equivalent to scorig under 6 under the old 15-point system) has happened to LD and FHF/CY's from time to time after they were hailed as world class players - not necessarily when they were World No.1).

LD
WC'03 - beaten by XXZ (10-15, 3-15)
China Open'05 - beaten by Chen Hong (5-15, 8-15)
WC'05 - beaten by TH (3-15, 7-15)
TC'06 - beaten by TH (16-21, 8-21)

CY/FHF
AE'06 - beaten by Lin Woon Fui/Mohd Tazari (3-15, 6-15)
AG'06 - beaten by KKK/TBH (9-21, 19-21)


Ok, accept your explain.

But before they leave to Scotland, the coach promise and said they show good sign in training, and they can beat C/F this time.

so, we all plan to watch a good match, under 10 still not acceptable.

Unless before the leave to Scotland, the coach said "KKK/TBH still in progress on recovering", then a bit reasonable to accept this kind of score.

smashmouth
06-15-2007, 02:16 AM
On the part of fans, it is also important to support your idols even if they lose. Nagging, complaining and critisizing does not help. In fact, it only increases the pressure and stress. Remember, kkk and tbh are still very young and are therefore sensitive to pressure. Remember how pressure affected LCW? So all you fans out there, help them out by being less critical and by being more encouraging. You will see better results in the long run.

azabaz_ipoh
06-15-2007, 03:04 AM
why DID malaysia send only one MD? i look at indonesia line up and i see variety. ditto with china. sharing the burden would have done wonders even if only one MD or MS or WD or WS or XD played. i agree that MAYBE the fact that KKK/TBH eas expected to win all matches gave them tremendous pressure. no excuse for their lost but we are all human. still supporting them. :D

X Ball
06-15-2007, 03:26 AM
why DID malaysia send only one MD? i look at indonesia line up and i see variety. ditto with china. sharing the burden would have done wonders even if only one MD or MS or WD or WS or XD played. i agree that MAYBE the fact that KKK/TBH eas expected to win all matches gave them tremendous pressure. no excuse for their lost but we are all human. still supporting them. :D

Why only one MD ? To save cost coz they feel confident of making the semis and also knowing well it was hard to beat China.

Only two big events in Malaysia's calender : 1) WC and 2) Olympics

Inky2000
06-15-2007, 03:26 AM
why DID malaysia send only one MD? i look at indonesia line up and i see variety. ditto with china. sharing the burden would have done wonders even if only one MD or MS or WD or WS or XD played. i agree that MAYBE the fact that KKK/TBH eas expected to win all matches gave them tremendous pressure. no excuse for their lost but we are all human. still supporting them. :D

I think YKH has been playing the same old trick as MAS team did in the previous SC - taking Choong Hann with the team as a potential MS, MD and XD player.

Joyous
06-15-2007, 04:16 AM
Win a few tournaments and send them to heaven.
Lose a few tournaments and cast them to hell.

So so true. Most of the time it's the fans who go overboard & not the player himself - gloating & cursing their idols depending on whether they win or lose. No wonder Kwun has to lock 2 threads today!!

X Ball
06-15-2007, 04:30 AM
So so true. Most of the time it's the fans who go overboard & not the player himself - gloating & cursing their idols depending on whether they win or lose. No wonder Kwun has to lock 2 threads today!!

It must have been a bad day at the office or home for Kwun. :D

hcyong
06-15-2007, 04:56 AM
Ok, accept your explain.

But before they leave to Scotland, the coach promise and said they show good sign in training, and they can beat C/F this time.

so, we all plan to watch a good match, under 10 still not acceptable.

Unless before the leave to Scotland, the coach said "KKK/TBH still in progress on recovering", then a bit reasonable to accept this kind of score.

Promises cannot be taken at face value. KKK/TBH may have promised to beat CY/FHF, but CY/FHF could also have promised to beat KKK/TBH. Only one promise can be kept. This is the nature of competition. Just don't be too happy when they win and don't be too sad when they lose.

Smichz
06-15-2007, 12:40 PM
Actually this result is preety predictable.They are not matured enough,like their opponents,FHF/CY.First,their arrogancy n over confidence,instead of playing a safe game,they made numerous of unforced mistakes.Rexy is the man as well.But we cant say that without the someone,we'll be nothing.Keep up the spirit,n not relying on someone but only ourself..

bananaboy
06-15-2007, 12:48 PM
Well, "losing with score under 10" (let's say it's equivalent to scorig under 6 under the old 15-point system) has happened to LD and FHF/CY's from time to time after they were hailed as world class players - not necessarily when they were World No.1).

LD
WC'03 - beaten by XXZ (10-15, 3-15)
China Open'05 - beaten by Chen Hong (5-15, 8-15)
WC'05 - beaten by TH (3-15, 7-15)
TC'06 - beaten by TH (16-21, 8-21)

CY/FHF
AE'06 - beaten by Lin Woon Fui/Mohd Tazari (3-15, 6-15)
AG'06 - beaten by KKK/TBH (9-21, 19-21)

Just a clarification, it was Lin Dan defeated Taufik at TC 06 with the score of 21-16, 21-8. You had it the other way around.

Pemuda
06-15-2007, 08:15 PM
I am a bit puzzled with some of the postings here. Just exactly how much time we should give KKK? Rexy, as reported in today's Star paper is furious and has decided to ground KKK/TBH. He even went a step further by stating clearly that KKK has an attitude problem in that KKK likes to show off a lot.

I watched the game between China & Denmark, and I sensed that the pairing is starting to have some problems. I can see TBH is not comfortable. I hope Rexy take drastic action now.

Inky2000
06-15-2007, 08:34 PM
Rexy pulls struggling doubles pair out of Thailand Open
By LIM TEIK HUAT


PETALING JAYA: Top doubles pair Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong’s inept display in the Malaysian against China tie of the Sudirman Cup (mixed team world championships) in Glasgow has earned the wrath of coach Rexy Mainaky.
Rexy was not pleased with what he saw and is pulling them out of the Thailand Open early next month.

The world number two pair had been entered for the Thailand Open and it is to be the only competition for them before leading the Malaysian challenge for the World Championships to be held in Kuala Lumpur in August.


There are also the China and Philippines Opens but Rexy had preferred to keep Kien Keat-Boon Heong at home instead of exposing them too much before the world meet and hence did not enter them.

“After what I saw, it’s better that they don’t go to Thailand. I am pulling them out of the Thailand Open because they don’t deserve to go there. They will have no chance of doing well with the way they are playing.
“They played like they do not have brains and I think it’s better for them to stay home and train for the World Championships. They have a lot of work to do on their partnership. Kien Keat also likes to show off a lot and this is not good. I will talk to them when they come back and see what they need to improve on,” said Rexy, who did not go to Glasgow because he had to train the other national doubles pairs at home for the upcoming three Open events.


Kien Keat-Boon Heong, winners of three Super Series title this year, gave a listless display against the Chinese world number one pair on Thursday and were trounced 9-21, 14-21, their second straight defeat to their rivals after the semi-final loss in last month’s Indonesian Open.

What was worrying to Rexy was the easy manner in which the Chinese world champions secured victory.

Haifeng-Cai Yun never allowed the Malaysians to settle down in their worst defeat yet.

Prior to the Indonesian Open, Kien Keat-Boon Heong had beaten the Chinese pair in three previous meetings at the Doha Asian Games, All-England and the Swiss Open.
... (the rest omitted) ...

zqloy
06-15-2007, 09:21 PM
I am a bit puzzled with some of the postings here. Just exactly how much time we should give KKK? Rexy, as reported in today's Star paper is furious and has decided to ground KKK/TBH. He even went a step further by stating clearly that KKK has an attitude problem in that KKK likes to show off a lot.

I watched the game between China & Denmark, and I sensed that the pairing is starting to have some problems. I can see TBH is not comfortable. I hope Rexy take drastic action now.

TBH is clearly off form in this tournament, he was a little slow, dunno whats wrong wif him; KKK sometimes tries too hard and tend to do too much unnecessary trick shots.

smashko
06-15-2007, 09:41 PM
guys, don't blame kkk/tbh, it was not their fault. cy/fhf revealed the secret for their victory after the match. they and their coach spent a lot of time studying video records of kkk/tbh in the training camp leading to the sudirman cup and found the recipe for defeating them. it has proved twice that this new "antidose" works well (io and sudirman). now it's rexy's turn to help kkk/tbh develop a new "toxin" against cy/fhf, otherwise kkk/tbh are most likely going to lose again in their next encounter. so it is not just the form or mental of the players, but more what happens behind the scene that decides the outcome of the games.

X Ball
06-15-2007, 10:34 PM
guys, don't blame kkk/tbh, it was not their fault. cy/fhf revealed the secret for their victory after the match. they and their coach spent a lot of time studying video records of kkk/tbh in the training camp leading to the sudirman cup and found the recipe for defeating them. it has proved twice that this new "antidose" works well (io and sudirman). now it's rexy's turn to help kkk/tbh develop a new "toxin" against cy/fhf, otherwise kkk/tbh are most likely going to lose again in their next encounter. so it is not just the form or mental of the players, but more what happens behind the scene that decides the outcome of the games.

If you watch enough videos of KKK-TBH's style of play, you might be able to work out a formula to beat them. Something that I feel should be said though.

The pair used to be fearless, playing intelligent strokes (and now they are labelled brainless by Rexy) because it was natural to them.

But with all the scoldings and fear being pumped into them by the press, Rexy, and many others, I can't help feel they might be inhibited in their plays now (the fear factor has made them played 'unnaturally'). I doubt we will see the same brand of fearless play from them henceforth. Perhaps a more mature play would come about with the discipline but no longer the 'natural style of fearless playing'.

WDYT ?

phaarix
06-15-2007, 11:03 PM
If you watch enough videos of KKK-TBH's style of play, you might be able to work out a formula to beat them. Something that I feel should be said though.

The pair used to be fearless, playing intelligent strokes (and now they are labelled brainless by Rexy) because it was natural to them.

But with all the scoldings and fear being pumped into them by the press, Rexy, and many others, I can't help feel they might be inhibited in their plays now (the fear factor has made them played 'unnaturally'). I doubt we will see the same brand of fearless play from them henceforth. Perhaps a more mature play would come about with the discipline but no longer the 'natural style of fearless playing'.

WDYT ?

Yeah that's pretty much what I think. Look at them in All England Final, they were really confident in themselves and never hesitated to try something amazing :). I don't think they should have been too hard on KKK especially. They're taking away what made him special and a big part of what gave the pair their edge...

X Ball
06-16-2007, 12:06 AM
Yeah that's pretty much what I think. Look at them in All England Final, they were really confident in themselves and never hesitated to try something amazing :). I don't think they should have been too hard on KKK especially. They're taking away what made him special and a big part of what gave the pair their edge...

I hope we have not stifled talent.

USAfan
06-16-2007, 12:39 AM
Rexy is a great doubles coach but the decision to pull the boys out from the Thai Open will only makes things worst. The boys need to get back on the saddle and ride it out. Stop the punishment and scolding, let them figure the problem out. Rexy has taken too much control over the boys that they are playing too tight in the games. They lost the edge and creativity when the freedom was taken away by all the bashing and punishment. Enough said, we need to coax them back to their successful days. Go back to the root, start over again and find the art of winning again.

USAfan
06-16-2007, 12:43 AM
I hope we have not stifled talent.
Get your voodoo power on the boys like how you did to LCW, are all these bashers the same people bashing LCW when he wasn't doing well ?????

samuel882
06-16-2007, 01:21 AM
MAS government was too "pampers" their own players who achieve somethings oversea.. Both KKK/ TBH was given RM 20000 for their AE champions by the respective state government..
Just looks at wat happened in Hafiz.. His From Slump tremendously ,, and never recover after the famous AE Victory in 2003.
AE champions doesnt meant the top of the world. They still long way to go to prove they are Top Class Players...
They deserverd to be culprit for MAS team lose to eventually SF list Eng; i fink Nobody frm MAS would dare to say MAS MD would definitely lost a point to ENG pair in decisive ties of Group match in SC.

X Ball
06-16-2007, 02:18 AM
Get your voodoo power on the boys like how you did to LCW, are all these bashers the same people bashing LCW when he wasn't doing well ?????


LOL, I used them all up on LCW. KKK-TBH would have to resort to their own abilities to recover.:D

Jessica
06-16-2007, 02:27 AM
Well,i do not know whether pulling them out of the next competition is a wise action or not but one thing can be sure that both of them need to sit down and have a deep talk with each other and also their coach.When they are against the china pair,i sense that something happens between both of them and obviously there are some problem there.Playing double have to relying on both player,they must put their heart together if they want to win.When in the All England,they are so fearless and encouraging each other all the times but sadly i can't see all this in this SC especially when against Fu/Cai.They look so down and don't have the fighting spirit at all,this is the best time for the enemies to attack you.Malaysian players always have the same problem,their mental is not strong at all,they will just easily break down and give up easily.At last,i hope they can do their best to come back because they still have a long way to go in badminton.

X Ball
06-16-2007, 03:41 AM
Well,i do not know whether pulling them out of the next competition is a wise action or not but one thing can be sure that both of them need to sit down and have a deep talk with each other and also their coach.When they are against the china pair,i sense that something happens between both of them and obviously there are some problem there.Playing double have to relying on both player,they must put their heart together if they want to win.When in the All England,they are so fearless and encouraging each other all the times but sadly i can't see all this in this SC especially when against Fu/Cai.They look so down and don't have the fighting spirit at all,this is the best time for the enemies to attack you.Malaysian players always have the same problem,their mental is not strong at all,they will just easily break down and give up easily.At last,i hope they can do their best to come back because they still have a long way to go in badminton.

If only they have your mental strength.:)

Smichz
06-16-2007, 10:24 AM
i know how malaysian love their players,just like other countries ppl..would favor their own player,suggesting that he/she is so good n stuff.I do agree that this certain KKK/TBH do have some big talents within them..but i'm not sure they can achieve more with their current attitude.When a pro acts like a non pro,their game will be affected,n will play like a non pro.While a real pro,will always play like a pro.

Note for them:Be low profile,keep ur ass down to earth..dont think that u're some sort of the best player in the world,by just winning some big matches.A real winner should never be proud/feel enough with what they already have.They'll strive 4 more n more.Well,that requires a good attitude,n that's the difference between winner n loser.

Rexy's decision to ground them for the next championship is a good one.That's what a great coach will do.A great coach wont risk letting them play like how they play now,n brings more losses.He'll ask them to stay in MAS,to practice n make corrections.N when the pair is already corrected n in a better shape,then they'll be ready to make more achievements.They'll be more consistent than they're now.But,no hurry in that..they're still young n still need to learn alot of things for them to get mature.

What i think is that rexy better put the more matured pair to play for MAS for this current time,since their achievements r more consistent.While during that period,rexy also teaches things to the younger pair,n mature-ing them as well.N when the younger pair is ready..then it's "showtime"!

danielle
06-16-2007, 10:30 AM
[quote=Inky2000;596127]When I was on vacation in Hong Kong last week (early Jun), I watched the news program on the Mandarin-speaking cable TV channel "Phoenix News" which had a brief interview with Han Jian who is now training teenage shuttlers in Malaysia. HJ told the reporter that "according to his observation", "a Malaysian MD pair" (no further information on which pair that he referred to) is the hot favourite to win the first OG Gold Medal for Malaysia. What is your reaction if you hear this from HJ?[/quote

I feel happy to hear this. hehe.. especially when it comes from Han Jian himself. I do believe Malaysian pairs stand a good chance to win the Olympic Gold. All pairs are good. Thats just an opinion. Its all up to the players themselves to fight hard for it. But I still believe Kien Kiat-Boon Heong is the best bet for it despite of their poor performances for now. Go kien kiat, go boon heong. :p

danielle
06-16-2007, 10:48 AM
Rexy is a great doubles coach but the decision to pull the boys out from the Thai Open will only makes things worst. The boys need to get back on the saddle and ride it out. Stop the punishment and scolding, let them figure the problem out. Rexy has taken too much control over the boys that they are playing too tight in the games. They lost the edge and creativity when the freedom was taken away by all the bashing and punishment. Enough said, we need to coax them back to their successful days. Go back to the root, start over again and find the art of winning again.

I agree with you... But I think by pulling them out of the Thai Open is a wise decision. Coz they have only 2 weeks prior to Thai Open, which I think is a little rush and stressful for them with their performance like this. I really agree that all the punishment and scolding should be stopped. I just think that this might make things worst. haha... they need more time... This is to give them some space to breathe, relax and find their trueself again. It does not mean that we are pampering them or whatever. We need time also ya when we face difficulties in life? hehe.... just a thought of my own.:p

ck1981
06-17-2007, 09:51 AM
The very obvious weakness of KKK/TBH are their smash and defense. I don't know why they cannot smash as powerful as the China pair or even the Malaysian veteran pair LWH/CTH. Improve these areas and they will be champion again.

Han
06-17-2007, 11:13 AM
The very obvious weakness of KKK/TBH are their smash and defense. I don't know why they cannot smash as powerful as the China pair or even the Malaysian veteran pair LWH/CTH. Improve these areas and they will be champion again.

Is the style they play and have been working well so far. TBH is a big smasher and KKK is very good on net play so there's no reason why they can't attack like the Chinese pair. I think is the commitment these players have to include into their arsenal and with minor tweak I am sure this pair will back to the top again. Give them some time as they are still very young and only been paired together less than a year. The key for Malaysia success is to have more capable pairs so less pressure is put on KKK/TBH.

Ian015
06-17-2007, 11:28 AM
I agree with you... But I think by pulling them out of the Thai Open is a wise decision. Coz they have only 2 weeks prior to Thai Open, which I think is a little rush and stressful for them with their performance like this. I really agree that all the punishment and scolding should be stopped. I just think that this might make things worst. haha... they need more time... This is to give them some space to breathe, relax and find their trueself again. It does not mean that we are pampering them or whatever. We need time also ya when we face difficulties in life? hehe.... just a thought of my own.:p

agree with you.
we should be patient as qualified supporters.
they need a break to adjust their skill.
belief they will show us surprising power after a break.

go on, kkk and tbh!

pjswift
06-17-2007, 11:56 AM
Is the style they play and have been working well so far. TBH is a big smasher and KKK is very good on net play so there's no reason why they can't attack like the Chinese pair. I think is the commitment these players have to include into their arsenal and with minor tweak I am sure this pair will back to the top again. Give them some time as they are still very young and only been paired together less than a year. The key for Malaysia success is to have more capable pairs so less pressure is put on KKK/TBH.
Agree. MAS is right now the envy of others for such richness in their choice of MDs and Rexy deserves a lot of credit for that. But the key problem is the physical condition. MAS MDs cannot expect to defeat cy/fhf unless they are superb in fitness and stamina.
It's like a flashy car. Needs to be maintained in tip top condition (fitness) so it can go vroom anytime. However the tank needs to be fully topped up (stamina) so it can reach its destination. If tank is only 3/4 full, then will be like TH, fitness is ok but he's too lazy to fill up the tank so he can't win titles cos stamina grinds to a halt by SF.Pity , isn't it?
But this is a serious problem that needs to be fixed. Remember kkk/tbh beat cy/fhf cos they outspeed them. Top speed can only be unleashed by top physical condition.
MAS MDs who wish to defeat cy/fhf needs to see the doctor who's trying to fix Hafiz now. If LCW can be so fit and go the distance, why can't they? Of course that kind of training is boring and painful but the rewards beckoning is more than worth it.

abedeng
06-17-2007, 08:33 PM
They deserverd to be culprit for MAS team lose to eventually SF list Eng; i fink Nobody frm MAS would dare to say MAS MD would definitely lost a point to ENG pair in decisive ties of Group match in SC.

Not the 1st time the MD failed to land a point in mixed team competition which resulted in our loss. We did that a few times in previous Sudirman Cup promotion playoff losses and Commonwealth Games. The last was the Commonwealth Games 2002 q-finals, also against ENG after a very young WMC took home our 2nd point.

markchan
06-17-2007, 10:02 PM
Based on current form, FHF/CY looks unbeatable becos of their superior speed and power game. Look at how they took CW/MK apart just like they did KKK/TBH.
Rexy is rite to keep them in KL for training instead of sending them to Thai Open. Not just training KKK/TBH but also to come with a program/strategy on how to counter FHF/CY's game (not sure if that is possible).....

abedeng
06-17-2007, 11:16 PM
The CHN pair are now playing almost with 2 players at the front court, Fu playing further forward than normal, just slightly behind Cai and ready to pounce loose net returns. This puts additional pressure on the opponents at the net. An additional benefit of this stance is better control of defensive and flat drives.

Excellent new strategy, time now for MAS to rethink theirs.

samuel882
06-17-2007, 11:27 PM
I doubt and not really could support the idea of "Grounding" KKK/TBH to be trained at home..
In badminton or any other sports. IF you are fully committed in the training; it doesnt meant that u WILL WIN in the competiton matches..

Training sustention is a MUST.. however, As a new pair (form Less than 1 years) in Badminton World.. they shld compete as many match possible to matured from their style of play in a truly international competiton matches.
By practising at Home, even they win all their matches in training or franly matches. (Which i presumed will be their LOCAL sparring partners). Wat will they benefit??

jasonmarc
06-17-2007, 11:35 PM
Yes its true, Rexy together with KKK/TBH and the whole MD coaches should seriously study, analyse, and think of ways to break CY/FHF rythms of play, just like they did to encounter KKK/TBH style of play.........lets dont just sit there and blame.........find a way......still have ample time to do so.....before Aug 07.........have to act fast...from now on....

hcyong
06-18-2007, 12:26 AM
I doubt and not really could support the idea of "Grounding" KKK/TBH to be trained at home..
In badminton or any other sports. IF you are fully committed in the training; it doesnt meant that u WILL WIN in the competiton matches..

Training sustention is a MUST.. however, As a new pair (form Less than 1 years) in Badminton World.. they shld compete as many match possible to matured from their style of play in a truly international competiton matches.
By practising at Home, even they win all their matches in training or franly matches. (Which i presumed will be their LOCAL sparring partners). Wat will they benefit??

They need to revisit the basics, like smashing. You can only do that with sustained training. Going for tournaments will disrupt that.

samuel882
06-18-2007, 04:56 PM
They need to revisit the basics, like smashing. You can only do that with sustained training. Going for tournaments will disrupt that.

Even tough they good in smashed during training . Doesnt meant they can prevail it at the real match. Even FHF/CY enter more competition than others pair. That didnt meant that they spend less time in training compare to the rest pairs... MATCH EXPOSURE IS A MUST.. Dont just sit home and trained..

ixory
06-18-2007, 06:51 PM
Badminton: Rexy promises to help jaded pair get back on their feet

By LIM TEIK HUAT
the star online (http://thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2007/6/19/sports/18061772&sec=sports)


PETALING JAYA: It is not the thing he wants to hear. But doubles chief coach Rexy Mainaky has promised to do everything he can to get top doubles pair Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong back to form for the World Championships in August.
After having spoken to his charges, Rexy believes that he has made the right decision in withdrawing the pair from the Thailand Open (July 3-8) because another unexpected defeat would affect their confidence further.
The duo's form has taken a dive after winning the All-England and Swiss Open titles in March. They suffered defeats by England's Anthony Clark-Robert Blair and the world number one Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun of China in the just concluded Sudirman Cup (world mixed team) championships in Glasgow.
“Boon Heong told me that he has lost the feeling in his game. It was not the same as when they played in the Asian Games and All-England. I am worried about his performance because he is not playing well and it is affecting his partner too,” said Rexy.
“Kien Keat's game is still okay but he explained that he may be covering up for his partner and that may look like he tends to be showing off at times.
“But I am still worried about Boon Heong, who lost his fighting spirit. I have told them that they will not be playing in the Thai Open and they are okay with it. It's better for them to stay home and spend more time to get their game back on track.”
Despite under-performing over the last two months, Rexy believes that the current world number two pair are still good bets to become the first Malaysian winners in the World Championships, which will be held in Bukit Jalil from Aug 13-19.
Rexy said that he was not worried about too much pressure on just one pair because Malaysia have three other strong pairs to count on.
The other pairs in the World Championships are Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Latif and Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock.
Rexy has since softened his stance on Kien Keat-Boon Heong and hope they look at the defeats positively.
“I was disappointed with the way they played but I have told them to learn from Fu-Cai. They also suffered a loss of form from the Asian Games right up to the All-England,” he said.
“But they came back strongly to win the last two Super Series tournament (Singapore and Indonesia) and they were unbeaten in the Sudirman Cup. They have regained their confidence.
“Kien Keat-Boon Heong are still young and the pressure may have got to them after they won a few consecutive tournaments.
“But it is clear that they are struggling and we have to help them get back their confidence.”
Rexy added that he might consider sending them to the Philippines Open (July 17-22). The China Open will be held in the week after the Philippines Open and there will be no more competition until after the world championships.

yuqiu
06-18-2007, 07:06 PM
Top pair must have quality training



18/06/07, 13:50:31


By : K.M. Boopathy (boopathy@nst.com.my)


SAFE guarding the confidence of World No 2 pair Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong will be the prime aim of national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky before the World Championships.
Malaysia is banking on Kien Keat-Boon Heong to end the country’s search for a first title in the World Championships to be held at the Putra Stadium on Aug 13-19, but their recent performances after winning the All England-Swiss Open double in March have not been encouraging.

They were expected to redeem themselves in the Sudirman Cup but defeats to England’s Anthony Clark-Robert Blair and China’s World No 1 Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun have further undermined their confidence.

Rexy, who had initially entered the pair for the Thailand Open on July 3-9 but has since pulled them out, felt that they needed to train longer and is considering them for the Philippines Open instead.

"Kien Keat-Boon Heong have always competed in tournaments with several of their teammates but they were alone in the Sudirman Cup. They are still young and probably the pressure got to them," said Rexy in what sounded like a weak attempt to defend his star doubles pair.
"They did not get quality time for training since winning the All England in March and the next four weeks will be important for them in their preparation towards the World Championships.

"The Thailand Open has got some strong pairs entered and I don’t want them to suffer any more defeats. They can get better by focusing on training and this will also help them regain the confidence."

Rexy added: "They will be considered for the Philippines Open as they may need some match practice before the tournament."

Prior to the Sudirman Cup, Rexy had said Kien Keat-Boon Heong were in good condition and expected them to do well in Glasgow.

But now the coach feels it was a blessing in disguise that their performance (in Glasgow) was not up to the mark as he still has time look for a remedy and fresh options to help the players.

Besides Kien Keat-Boon Heong, Malaysia will have Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Fairuzizuan Tazari-Zakry Latif and Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock in the World Championships.

However, Kien Keat-Boon Heong still remain the pair which has earned their rivals’ respect and Rexy wants to make sure that they regain their form in time for the World Championships.

"I also see this situation to do our homework, speak to Kien Keat-Boon Heong and come up with a programme which can turn their performance around," added Rexy.

"Boon Heong is normally effective with his sideline smashes but there has been a clear decline, while Kien Keat hesitates when it comes to interceptions. These are some of their strong points which have deserted them. Also, there are few others shortcomings which I need to iron out."

Rexy will be able to assess Kien Keat-Boon Heong’s progress in the Philippines Open and after that, will have just three weeks to a final push for the World Championships in August.

Courtesy of New Straits Times

bananaboy
06-18-2007, 07:29 PM
Rexy is full of crap about pressure:mad:... find me anybody playing in a tournament that does not bear any pressure whatsoever.

TBH is a great player in my book, and Rexy is not even capable of keeping TBH in good shape and strength his mental game enough... If TBH(even if he is only 19 today) is to play in China instead with a good partner, he probably will be doing much better than now. Malaysia fails in badminton because of all the B.S they do with their players... extreme rewards when they win + hell of a lot of excuses when they lose. Until they have a head coach as tough as LYB, Malaysia's chance of REALLY competing with China in the future is very very slim.

I bet if a China player loses and mention about pressure, everyone will accused him/her for making excuses... but then a Malaysian player talk about pressure, everyone starts giving him/her empathy.:confused:

Inky2000
06-18-2007, 08:03 PM
I bet if a China player loses and mention about pressure, everyone will accused him/her for making excuses... but then a Malaysian player talk about pressure, everyone starts giving him/her empathy.

Not spelling it out doesn't mean that it doesn't exist. It's not wise to jump into conclusion that none of them has ever suffered pressure issue unless you have the experience of being a Chinese national shuttler. I don't see Rexy's comment as an excuse, especially that he had the experience of bearing his country's pride at TC back in 1990s (and had been through the coming-of-age stage like what KKK/TBH are experiencing now). I would rather see it as a trick to help the young pair regain their confidence - Hey, you guys are not really inferior to the CHN or ENG pairs but you've just lost under pressure; do work hard, play wisely and rebounce!

cooler
06-18-2007, 08:06 PM
i would wait until kkk's hairs grow back before i jump into conclusion;):D

abedeng
06-18-2007, 08:21 PM
bananaboy,

China had a very large pool of talent, the mental aspect is already part of their selection process. Therefore, all who are in the national squad are already expected to have good mental ability. Even so, in the current CHN squad, there are still "clowns" or overdependent players. But they have not been axed.

Other countries, who don't have such luxury of talent, cannot reject talented players just because they are mentally weak. Therefore the approach is to make these talents more adept mentally, either by personal coaching (what Rexy is doing) or using sports psychologist. And Rexy is a tough and no-nonsense coach.

Extreme rewards and glorification, the MAS coaches and Badminton Central forummers are not in favour of them too. The problem here is that for MAS (and other countries except CHN), success is few and far between, and Govt and ppl are much too excitable when we win an event.

Inky2000
06-18-2007, 08:59 PM
Extreme rewards and glorification, the MAS coaches and Badminton Central forummers are not in favour of them too. The problem here is that for MAS (and other countries except CHN), success is few and far between, and Govt and ppl are much too excitable when we win an event.

Thus, rewarding players become good publicity stunts for state governments, sports bodies and commercial sponsors.

zqloy
06-18-2007, 09:04 PM
Even tough they good in smashed during training . Doesnt meant they can prevail it at the real match. Even FHF/CY enter more competition than others pair. That didnt meant that they spend less time in training compare to the rest pairs... MATCH EXPOSURE IS A MUST.. Dont just sit home and trained..

Fu/Cai stayed at home for 1 whole month close door training b4 bouncing back. More training at home is nessesary for KKK/TBH since they will go nowhere in tournament in such poor condition. Remember they went straight and capture the AE and SO title after 1 month training at home? I would done the samething if i were Rexy.

Inky2000
06-18-2007, 09:08 PM
Exactly. I kinda agreed with Rexy's concern :- "Rexy believes that he has made the right decision in withdrawing the pair from the Thailand Open (July 3-8) because another unexpected defeat would affect their confidence further. " KKK/TBH could rebuild their confidence some time in the future but we hope it happens right before WC, not a year later (like LCW's case).

samuel882
06-18-2007, 11:10 PM
Lets us wait and see.. After So Long period training.. training.. and training... wat will they produce it the upcoming events they will be competed for...
The worst thing is go straight to WC07 withour any competition matches prior to that.. While others top pair in the world already gain invaluable expereince by playing in high tempo match at the SS..
They should not afraid of another defeat to any pair before the WC... In fact, the more games they play. they able to learn frm after-match analysis..
If they not able to win any SS before the WC.. It will become less pressure carried by them especially frm the Die-Hard MAS Fans...
They alr proove that they can play much more better withour high pressure in Doha & AE.. When they are not the FIRST SEED... They sprung the surpise..

Han
06-18-2007, 11:50 PM
Lets us wait and see.. After So Long period training.. training.. and training... wat will they produce it the upcoming events they will be competed for...
The worst thing is go straight to WC07 withour any competition matches prior to that.. While others top pair in the world already gain invaluable expereince by playing in high tempo match at the SS..
They should not afraid of another defeat to any pair before the WC... In fact, the more games they play. they able to learn frm after-match analysis..
If they not able to win any SS before the WC.. It will become less pressure carried by them especially frm the Die-Hard MAS Fans...
They alr proove that they can play much more better withour high pressure in Doha & AE.. When they are not the FIRST SEED... They sprung the surpise..

Yes, I also think players should go for tournament eventual to judge their training progress. Certainly training is also valuable and serious sparring among team mates also helpful but is not really the same participating in tournament. I expect to see all Malaysian players who qualify for World Championship going to participate one tournament before the World Championship.

Inky2000
06-18-2007, 11:53 PM
Lets us wait and see.. After So Long period training.. training.. and training... wat will they produce it the upcoming events they will be competed for...
The worst thing is go straight to WC07 withour any competition matches prior to that.. While others top pair in the world already gain invaluable expereince by playing in high tempo match at the SS..
They should not afraid of another defeat to any pair before the WC... In fact, the more games they play. they able to learn frm after-match analysis..
If they not able to win any SS before the WC.. It will become less pressure carried by them especially frm the Die-Hard MAS Fans...
They alr proove that they can play much more better withour high pressure in Doha & AE.. When they are not the FIRST SEED... They sprung the surpise..

Rexy did say that if they do well during the training, they will be sent to compete in Philippine Open. It isn't a SS event but it's still an international event. The most important thing is that they need to reach peak at the right time (which is something that I'm worried about for LCW - he reaches the peak during IO and then Sudirman Cup but, just in case ...).

Loh
06-18-2007, 11:53 PM
Give the boys a short break. Let them have fun together, say playing beach volleyball for example. See them laugh and relax and get closer to each other. They have been too tensed up in the badminton court. And the intense training may not have helped but instead do them more harm.

Back to training after the short but relaxing interval may bring back the tonic.:D

Han
06-19-2007, 12:05 AM
Give the boys a short break. Let them have fun together, say playing beach volleyball for example. See them laugh and relax and get closer to each other. They have been too tensed up in the badminton court. And the intense training may not have helped but instead do them more harm.

Back to training after the short but relaxing interval may bring back the tonic.:D

Not a bad idea but I recall Team Malaysia did that many times before during late 90s and I don't recall we actually win any title :D I think keep the intensity is the better way to go. You know what they say : "Go to beach and see all those beautiful girls make the knee cap weak" :D

azabaz_ipoh
06-19-2007, 01:27 AM
i dont think a relaxing period will do them any good. i think this is the time to hunker down and push forward and work harder. knowing your ultimate goal has not been reached. lee chong wei did not take a break. he changed coach, lost a few tournaments. keep at it and now he is back. his fans are so happy. i think that is what KKK and TBH should do. dont take time to relax and overthink it. full blown training will get them focused again. but that is just my opinion. sometimes momentum is needed and relaxing can break that momentum.

s1nn3r
06-19-2007, 02:21 AM
GIve them a break... they are just kids! to carry the hope of a whole nation isnt a easy task for such a tender age.

In the 1st place, noone expect them to be this good this fast when they just being paired up. All their past achievement, we should take it as a bonus.

The real works start now.

Inky2000
06-19-2007, 02:28 AM
i dont think a relaxing period will do them any good. i think this is the time to hunker down and push forward and work harder. knowing your ultimate goal has not been reached. lee chong wei did not take a break. he changed coach, lost a few tournaments. keep at it and now he is back. his fans are so happy. i think that is what KKK and TBH should do. dont take time to relax and overthink it. full blown training will get them focused again. but that is just my opinion. sometimes momentum is needed and relaxing can break that momentum.

LCW is a seasoned player and he's playing alone. KKK and TBH are playing as a pair and they need to find back their winning touch, mutual understanding/trust and the "collaborative instinct" - we can't tell whether it's easier to achieve this by intensive competitions or being grounded (but I suppose Rexy is more authoritative than us in this aspect due to his own vast experience as a world class MD player). TBH is relatively inexperienced and a few consecutive losses could easily crack his confidence. Therefore, we can't handle KKK/TBH in the same way as we handle LCW.

Anyway, either way has its pros and cons. It's no point speculating now. Let the results speak.

aheng
06-19-2007, 06:37 AM
GIve them a break... they are just kids! to carry the hope of a whole nation isnt a easy task for such a tender age.

In the 1st place, noone expect them to be this good this fast when they just being paired up. All their past achievement, we should take it as a bonus.

The real works start now.

TOTALLY AGREE TO IT!
they already won in several BIG tournament, and they are capable in bringing more BIG BIG title for malaysia. i sense they are now making/leaving their's footprint the process to become a great badminton legend for malaysia.... lets see
:D:)

hopefully at the end of the story...
ours is better than the korea legend, park xxx
(sorry, not sure his name, park ju bong ?? haha)

Felicia_txh
06-19-2007, 06:45 AM
GIve them a break... they are just kids! to carry the hope of a whole nation isnt a easy task for such a tender age.

In the 1st place, noone expect them to be this good this fast when they just being paired up. All their past achievement, we should take it as a bonus.

The real works start now.
Ya...They are still young!!They still have to learn many things..I hope the failure they face now can make them more independent,strong,not easily break down n become more mature in every aspect!they can correct the mistakes they make n improve their badminton skill!The most important thing is they will noe the right attitue they should have as a professional badminton player!!:);)

pjswift
06-19-2007, 06:57 AM
i dont think a relaxing period will do them any good. i think this is the time to hunker down and push forward and work harder. knowing your ultimate goal has not been reached. lee chong wei did not take a break. he changed coach, lost a few tournaments. keep at it and now he is back. his fans are so happy. i think that is what KKK and TBH should do. dont take time to relax and overthink it. full blown training will get them focused again. but that is just my opinion. sometimes momentum is needed and relaxing can break that momentum.
LCW did take a break. Just that they were unscheduled breaks. He got knocked out early in both SOs ;they turned out to be good breaks!

azabaz_ipoh
06-19-2007, 10:15 PM
what i was refering to before was the by the beach relaxing period. i agree with rexy to keep them in hard training. i believe we must have faith in the coach and players that have showed what they could achieve. i never read anywhere that LCW went to a beach to relax. yes, i guess the break by losing the two Opens before Indonesia gave him breathing room to work harder. but he did not shy away from tournaments. losing or winning, you have to go out there and take it. and i simply dont advocate the excuse that these are youngsters and therefore are immature and must be coddled and sheilded every step of the way. these are professional players. lots of professional players in the world starts very very young. 17 and 18 years old. and they make mistakes. but they bounce back. we want to reason that it is because of their age. but true professionals should never give age as an excuse. you either have it or you dont. and i believe KKK and TBH got it. they just need to hone it. i am worried though when TBH said he has lost the feeling. they might just drift away and be like hafiz. another one who i believe has it but is currently in limbo. i still support them. i just dont want them to think that since everybody is making excuses for them, maybe they should relax a bit and take their sweet time. this is not a time for a relaxing break by the beach. rest if you have to. spend time with your family and friends because they will support you all the way and give you encouragement. but all the while, work harder, keep at it. learn that losing is not the end. all my support for malaysian players!!!!!! :D

Loh
06-19-2007, 11:39 PM
"All Work And No Play Makes Jack A Dull Boy"

Overtraining Can Harm Instead Of Help

robin7
06-19-2007, 11:55 PM
GIve them a break... they are just kids! to carry the hope of a whole nation isnt a easy task for such a tender age.

In the 1st place, noone expect them to be this good this fast when they just being paired up. All their past achievement, we should take it as a bonus.

The real works start now.

I think Malaysia & Malaysians have over-magnified & over-glorified their success. Remember how Astro AEC taylored made a special program to interview KKK/TBH & their parents right after they claimed the All England & Swiss Open titles. News about KKK/TBH were found everywhere in the local newspapers & magazines since winning the Asia Games & All England.

Have all these actions made them better players? Of course not.

There are always ups & downs in life. Give them a break as s1nn3r suggested. But I don't agree that they are still in the tender age. Many tennis players at their age have already achieved a lot. For instance, Maria Sharapova (20) & Rafael Nadal (21) won their first Grand Slam at the age of 17 & 19 respectively.

KKK/TBH must have the confidence that they can beat anyone but also be prepared to lose to anyone. Even Roger Federer can be beaten by much lower ranked players such as Volandri & Canas (twice this year). Winning or losing is just part of the game. KKK/TBH should learn from Fededer that winning even not playing well. These are the mental toughness & quality that a true champion should have.

We still have at least 3 other pairs to count on. Don't put too much pressure on KKK/TBH.

bananaboy
06-20-2007, 10:14 AM
Is Rexy being paid to be a babysitter, or is he supposed to be a coach???:eek: Malaysia needs someone like LYB whom can train players with good discipline and being able to handle all kind of hurdles + keep on going until the journey is over.

The truth is, in the year 2007 so far, only Fu/Cai has shown vest improvement, and all the other pairs are either on the decline or remain the same.

Look at the top pairs right now...

Denmark. Lungaard/Eriksen... they have not made much of an impact this year.

Indonesia. MK/HS... also on a hell of a losing streak. Kido was like completely lost when playing against Fu/Cai in the Sudriment cup with Candra.

Korea. Not much has been shown so far, except their once top pair won the Korean SS title.

Candra/Tony. They were unbeaten in the late 2006, then now they haven't been winning any title at all.

Malaysia. Looked like they were dominating during early 2007, but ever since the resurrection of Fu/Cai, all Malaysia top pairs have been defeated over and over again.

any pair that is capable of improving by a lot before this year WC will have a good chance for winning as long as they don't meet Fu/Cai early. Also, even if you are "better" in terms of technique than Fu/Cai, you still have to be mentally tougher and more determine than those two in order to stand a chance against them.

badminto_expert
06-20-2007, 11:03 AM
Yes. You are right. Without Rexy they can't play well. But Lee Chong We is OK (not like that)

I saw during the game, they always see Rexy and need the advice from him. It is not good mentall for they. But Lee Chong We not like that. Maybe LCW got many experiences already..maybe.


They are like a headless chicken without Rexy

badminto_expert
06-20-2007, 11:13 AM
No Man. You are wrong. China can be champion because they have alot stock players.

Very very long and just now Fu/Cai can playing better. Previously not improvement. It means they have alot experiences to join all competation, so they can learn many things.

For Example:
Fu/Cai almost lost to Tony/Chandra in Aviva Sing Open anyway. Score very close.

and If chandra not resign to indonesia national team and still partner with sigit budiarto, so I am sure they still very strong and Fu/Cai difficult to beat them.


Is Rexy being paid to be a babysitter, or is he supposed to be a coach???:eek: Malaysia needs someone like LYB whom can train players with good discipline and being able to handle all kind of hurdles + keep on going until the journey is over.

The truth is, in the year 2007 so far, only Fu/Cai has shown vest improvement, and all the other pairs are either on the decline or remain the same.

Chandra/Tony haven't join training together. It is you have to know but they still dangerous for china. Chandra/Tony very old already, so they are movement not so fast and also they are power/smash/drive.

And I think If Chandra not resign to indonesia national team and still partner with Sigit, So they still very strong and I am sure the china peer difficult to beat them.

Look at the top pairs right now...

Denmark. Lungaard/Eriksen... they have not made much of an impact this year.

Indonesia. MK/HS... also on a hell of a losing streak. Kido was like completely lost when playing against Fu/Cai in the Sudriment cup with Candra.

Korea. Not much has been shown so far, except their once top pair won the Korean SS title.

Candra/Tony. They were unbeaten in the late 2006, then now they haven't been winning any title at all.

Malaysia. Looked like they were dominating during early 2007, but ever since the resurrection of Fu/Cai, all Malaysia top pairs have been defeated over and over again.

any pair that is capable of improving by a lot before this year WC will have a good chance for winning as long as they don't meet Fu/Cai early. Also, even if you are "better" in terms of technique than Fu/Cai, you still have to be mentally tougher and more determine than those two in order to stand a chance against them.

cooler
06-20-2007, 11:19 AM
Yes. You are right. Without Rexy they can't play well. But Lee Chong We is OK (not like that)

I saw during the game, they always see Rexy and need the advice from him. It is not good mentall for they. But Lee Chong We not like that. Maybe LCW got many experiences already..maybe.
Yes, after losing li mao, i think LCW had evolved into a more confident player. Maybe a good bout of losing streak is good for the soul;), ie to find yourself:D

bananaboy
06-20-2007, 06:16 PM
No Man. You are wrong. China can be champion because they have alot stock players.

Very very long and just now Fu/Cai can playing better. Previously not improvement. It means they have alot experiences to join all competation, so they can learn many things.

For Example:
Fu/Cai almost lost to Tony/Chandra in Aviva Sing Open anyway. Score very close.

and If chandra not resign to indonesia national team and still partner with sigit budiarto, so I am sure they still very strong and Fu/Cai difficult to beat them.

Dude, if you want to quote my post and comment.. do so by posting your comment under my original post, and not add your own stuff into my original post.:mad:

By the way, your post hardly make any sense at all and it is not even relevant to my original post whatsoever... :rolleyes:

Hitman71
06-20-2007, 08:31 PM
Fu & cai are playing super fast & powerfull, its like beyond human capabilities. If they were other pairs I would thinks that they are on drugs hehehehe. Now how long can they maintain the performance like that ?? :rolleyes:

That kind of speed & power will give all double coaches a huge headache and the player clueless .. :D :D

Han
06-20-2007, 10:22 PM
One thing we failed to mention, the Malaysian coach(don't know his name) for KKK/TBH sitting on the side line did not get any respect from his players, none of them look at him for guidance during the match, what a contrast when Rexy is around. I think Rexy has to let the players know who's the boss when he's not around. What a different in attitude with and without Rexy. That Malaysia coach should demand more respect from these players, so mad to see two of them with such a lousy attitude when Rexy is not around.

ehzyx
06-20-2007, 10:48 PM
we should really give kkk and tbh a break. they already achieved a lot and they are still so young. cy and fhf also went through a lot of obstacles before emerging as the world no one. so far kkk and tbh have achieved much more than cy and fhf when they were this young. kkk and tbh still has a long way to go but i will always support them! :D

Loh
06-20-2007, 11:10 PM
Yes, after losing li mao, i think LCW had evolved into a more confident player. Maybe a good bout of losing streak is good for the soul;), ie to find yourself:D

Maybe LCW has finally grown up and realized he has to rely on himself more and not be too emotionally involved with others, especially his former coach.

Maybe he has accepted the fact that there are always ups and downs in life and you just have to overcome them and refocus on your goals and do your best under the circumstances.

Maybe he now pays more attention to his opponents, their strengths and weaknesses and together with his coach prepares a winning strategy in advance.

Maybe he takes his training more seriously and pays attention to instructions, constructive criticisms, etc from his coach. He may have become more productive in training and he knows that so long as his process is sound, the result will come in a matter of time.

Maybe ..........

bcmmgr
06-21-2007, 12:02 AM
I might be wrong, but I think without KKK/TBH, we won't have today's Fu/Cai. The exist of KKK/TBH with some excellent skill and strategy has make
Fu/Cai to work hard and improve.

You can see now Fu/Cai has modified KKK/TBH strategy into them and even better with Fu powerful smash.

Joyous
06-21-2007, 02:34 AM
I might be wrong, but I think without KKK/TBH, we won't have today's Fu/Cai. The exist of KKK/TBH with some excellent skill and strategy has make
Fu/Cai to work hard and improve.

You can see now Fu/Cai has modified KKK/TBH strategy into them and even better with Fu powerful smash.

What does this imply other than a positive attitude with the willingness to learn, change & improve for the better. That's why LYB was extremely pleased with them.

Like Han, I did notice the Malaysian coach. He looked expressionless. Well maybe that's how he is but Yap KH was obviously missing.

Felicia_txh
06-21-2007, 05:27 AM
Yes. You are right. Without Rexy they can't play well. But Lee Chong We is OK (not like that)

I saw during the game, they always see Rexy and need the advice from him. It is not good mentall for they. But Lee Chong We not like that. Maybe LCW got many experiences already..maybe.
Ya..he is more confident now..YKH said Chong Wei's skill had improved n his stamina had increased!!A good news..:)

yuqiu
06-21-2007, 07:47 PM
21/06/07, 14:02:08


By : K.M Boopathy (boopathy@nst.com.my)



http://www.nst.com.my/Thursday/Sport/20070621075138/insidepix1
Tan Boon Heong promises to bounce back.
TAN Boon Heong is now a humbled player.
His performance in last week’s Sudirman Cup in Glasgow was "my worst ever but I promise that I will bounce back in the World Championships."

Boon Heong was candid in his assessment and has vowed that he will regain the form that saw him and partner Koo Kien Keat win the Asian Games gold and three Super Series titles.

The World Championships are just seven weeks away and the experience in Glasgow, where virtually nothing went right for Boon Heong, has humbled him.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong were toothless in their defeats to China’s World No 1 Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun and Anthony Clark-Robert Blair of England while the win over Denmark’s Jens Eriksen-Martin Lundgaard Hansen was due more to the ineffectiveness of their opponents.
And given his current form, Boon Heong said it was pointless for Kien Keat and him to compete in the Thailand Open on July 3-9 and he agrees with national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky’s decision to drop them from the tournament.

"I cannot recall myself playing any worst than I did in the Sudirman Cup. My best form was just before the Asian Games (in December) and I want to regain that," said Boon Heong.

"There was no pressure on me but I just couldn’t get the feeling. Sideline smashes are my main weapons but I couldn’t even execute a single shot fluently.

"My confidence level may have been affected slightly but I don’t think that could have led to such a shoddy performance.

"Our priority is the World Championships. Playing in Thailand is pointless as my poor form will only continue and I just want to focus on training over the next seven weeks."

Boon Heong and Kien Keat, who returned from Glasgow on Tuesday, will start training today and the former believes Rexy’s guidance will be crucial in helping them overcome the rut they are in.

Rexy had said that training would be major factor in triggering Kien Keat-Boon Heong’s revival but other aspects like regular mental training and dialogue sessions with the duo will also be given importance in preparing for the World Championships.

"I need to sit with both players and have an open discussion. I need to find out if there are any other external issues which are bothering them as I need iron out everything," said Rexy.

"It is normal for young pairs to go through a slump but we must do our best to help them overcome their problems.

"I’m also particularly concerned about Boon Heong who looks out of touch. He is not sharp, his smashes have lost sting and I need to pay attention to him."

Courtesy of New Straits Times

yuqiu
06-21-2007, 07:49 PM
Friday June 22, 2007

Choong-Lee not putting pressure on themselves
By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: Veteran men’s doubles players Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah are back in the groove but they are not putting any undue pressure on themselves to win their second title of the year when they compete in the Thailand Open.

Tan Fook-Wan Wah, ranked world No 4, are set to be the top seeds in the US$120,000 tournament, which will be held in Bangkok from July 3-8, following the withdrawal of world No 2 and fellow Malaysians Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong.

In the absence of many top stars from China, Denmark and Indonesia, Tan Fook-Wan Wah have a good chance to live up their top billing.

Wan Wah, who has adopted a new attitude and approach in training and competition, said they would not take their opponents lightly.

“We will be wary of the Koreans (Lee Jae-jin-Hwang Ji-man and Jung Jae-sung-Lee Yong-dae). Besides, there are the other Malaysians in the fray. Everyone has a shot at winning the title,” said Wan Wah after a training session at Gymnasium Two in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

The other Malaysian pairs in the field are Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif, Gan Teik Chai-Lin Woon Fui, Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock and Chan Chong Ming-Hoon Thien How.

Malaysia will also feature six junior pairs from the Project 2010-2012 and Bukit Jalil Sports School squads in the tournament.

After making their critics eat their words when they bounced back from a slump to win the Asian Badminton Championships title in April, Wan Wah said he was beginning to enjoy the game.

“It is all about enjoying the game now. We do not put undue pressure on ourselves like we used to,” said Wan Wah.

“If we lose in the first round, we pick ourselves up and try to bounce back stronger. We finally learnt not to let criticisms get to us. We are happy as long as we know that we have given our best.”

Wan Wah said that the presence of many young pairs had also eased the burden on their shoulders.

“It is great to see many youngsters ready to take over. It is good for the sport and us. It gives us some breathing space to enjoy the game,” he said.

After experiencing the ups and downs in his badminton career, Wan Wah also came to the defence of youngsters Kien Keat-Boon Heong, who are in a slump now.

“It is not easy to keep on winning. In our country, people heap praises when players keep on winning but when they lose, all kind of things are said about them. That is a sad reality here,” he said.

“It is when the players are down that they need all the support they can get. I hope that Koo and Tan will not let this affect them.

“It will not be easy but they can be rest assured that they have the support from their team-mates.”

Kien Keat-Boon Heong, who are still struggling to find their footing after an excellent start to the year when they won the Malaysian Open, All-England and Swiss Open, performed below par at the recent Sudirman Cup in Glasgow.

danielle
06-23-2007, 04:12 AM
Friday June 22, 2007

Choong-Lee not putting pressure on themselves
By RAJES PAUL

KUALA LUMPUR: Veteran men’s doubles players Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah are back in the groove but they are not putting any undue pressure on themselves to win their second title of the year when they compete in the Thailand Open.

Tan Fook-Wan Wah, ranked world No 4, are set to be the top seeds in the US$120,000 tournament, which will be held in Bangkok from July 3-8, following the withdrawal of world No 2 and fellow Malaysians Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong.

In the absence of many top stars from China, Denmark and Indonesia, Tan Fook-Wan Wah have a good chance to live up their top billing.

Wan Wah, who has adopted a new attitude and approach in training and competition, said they would not take their opponents lightly.

“We will be wary of the Koreans (Lee Jae-jin-Hwang Ji-man and Jung Jae-sung-Lee Yong-dae). Besides, there are the other Malaysians in the fray. Everyone has a shot at winning the title,” said Wan Wah after a training session at Gymnasium Two in Bukit Jalil yesterday.

The other Malaysian pairs in the field are Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif, Gan Teik Chai-Lin Woon Fui, Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock and Chan Chong Ming-Hoon Thien How.

Malaysia will also feature six junior pairs from the Project 2010-2012 and Bukit Jalil Sports School squads in the tournament.

After making their critics eat their words when they bounced back from a slump to win the Asian Badminton Championships title in April, Wan Wah said he was beginning to enjoy the game.

“It is all about enjoying the game now. We do not put undue pressure on ourselves like we used to,” said Wan Wah.

“If we lose in the first round, we pick ourselves up and try to bounce back stronger. We finally learnt not to let criticisms get to us. We are happy as long as we know that we have given our best.”

Wan Wah said that the presence of many young pairs had also eased the burden on their shoulders.

“It is great to see many youngsters ready to take over. It is good for the sport and us. It gives us some breathing space to enjoy the game,” he said.

After experiencing the ups and downs in his badminton career, Wan Wah also came to the defence of youngsters Kien Keat-Boon Heong, who are in a slump now.

“It is not easy to keep on winning. In our country, people heap praises when players keep on winning but when they lose, all kind of things are said about them. That is a sad reality here,” he said.

“It is when the players are down that they need all the support they can get. I hope that Koo and Tan will not let this affect them.

“It will not be easy but they can be rest assured that they have the support from their team-mates.”

Kien Keat-Boon Heong, who are still struggling to find their footing after an excellent start to the year when they won the Malaysian Open, All-England and Swiss Open, performed below par at the recent Sudirman Cup in Glasgow.

I agree with the words bold in red! It is really true. I still remember when Kien Kiat-Boon Heong won, everyone praises them and everyone wants to know them. But when they face failures in their career, people keep bashing them with all kinds of non-encouraging words. :( I think what they need is support. It is good that some people give comments about their weak points and some encouragement on how to improve themselves. I think that they should take these comments seriously. Perhaps these comments might help them. But for those rubbish comments, just drop it and forget it. Kien kiat-boon heong, it might not be easy, but try your best and play hard ok! Guys, if Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng can make it, I never think it is impossible for our Malaysia's kien kiat-boon heong to do the same thing! So, jia you, hao ma?:p

Inky2000
06-25-2007, 07:52 PM
(The Star - Jun 26, 2007)

(Maybe someone should invent an engine which can automatically, randomly move such cut-outs around the court ...)


Shuttlers make ‘Rexy’ the target during training
By RAJES PAUL


KUALA LUMPUR: There were two “Rexy Mainakys” during the men's doubles training session yesterday with one being the target of the players.

But doubles chief coach Rexy wasn't taking the blows. The target was a cut-out of himself posing with a racquet and it was placed on court at the Gymnasium II in Bukit Jalil.

The top pairs of Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong were fed with shuttles to hit at the target made of corrugated plastic. The other players also joined in to take shots.

“If you don't like me, aim your shots at my cut-out and hit it. Let out your frustrations,” said a bemused Rexy as he riled up the players while feeding the shuttles.

The players had fun and there are plans to replace the cut-out with those of their opponents. They will be marked and the players will have to smash the shuttle at them accurately, assuming that they are hitting at their rivals' weak spots.

Besides breaking the monotony in training, Rexy said that the exercise was meant to help the players face their opponents without fear, especially with the World Championships drawing near.

The World Championships will be held at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil from Aug 13-19 and Rexy is determined to help Malaysia win a title for the first time in the series.

“This (using the cut-outs) was something done in Indonesia before and I had always wanted to do it with the players here,” said Rexy.

“In the past, Tony (Gunawan) and Candra (Wijaya) found it difficult to beat (Kim) Dong-moon-(Ha) Tae-kwon. They used to whack the cut-outs of the Koreans during training. And it helped them.”

Rexy said that he was happy with the morale of the players, who are back in training after attending a three-day team building camp in Malacca.

“The place was very quiet. There was no distraction and we even could not be reached on our mobile phones. It was an ideal place to take away the stress, worries and fears of the players,” he said.

“I made the players write letters to their respective partners. I wanted them to be honest and tell what they like and dislike about each other. It was good to get the players to open up.
“As a result of the camp, I see team morale very high in training today. It will not be easy to maintain this but hopefully, they will keep at it.”

ixory
06-25-2007, 09:05 PM
Thanks inky2000 for the article.Happy to hear our MD in high spirit now and i wonder what will happen if they put cut-outs of cy/fhf .:D

ctjcad
06-29-2007, 06:15 PM
(The Star - Jun 26, 2007)

(Maybe someone should invent an engine which can automatically, randomly move such cut-outs around the court ...)

Shuttlers make ‘Rexy’ the target during training
By RAJES PAUL

“This (using the cut-outs) was something done in Indonesia before and I had always wanted to do it with the players here,” said Rexy.

“In the past, Tony (Gunawan) and Candra (Wijaya) found it difficult to beat (Kim) Dong-moon-(Ha) Tae-kwon. They used to whack the cut-outs of the Koreans during training. And it helped them.”
:)..thanks for posting the article, Inky2000..;):cool:

ants
06-29-2007, 06:35 PM
The cut out pictures look so funny. Looks like a target practise. Just that this time, shuttles has been used as weapon.

ixory
07-03-2007, 01:22 AM
Just wanna share..scan it from Star newspaper..:p

33400

taufikk
07-10-2007, 03:50 AM
Love the cardboard version of Rexy..is it for sale? haha..

blessing
07-10-2007, 10:38 AM
noble sacrifices...

shiey
07-14-2007, 09:49 PM
kkk n tbh should get some advices from their senior....huhu

Inky2000
07-16-2007, 08:55 PM
(Inky2000's note: As KKK/TBH has skipped TO and CM, Markis/Kido, the CM runner-up, will take over KKK/TBH's World No.2 spot on this Thursday. However, as their gap is about 1,646 WR points and Markis/Kido aren't taking part in PO, KKK/TBH will regain their No.2 spot a week later as long as they finish playing their R1 game at PO - even if they are beaten [touch wood!]. Yes, even if TG/CW wins the PO title on this Sunday, they will move up to World No.4 at best.)


(The Star - 17 July 2007)

Kien Keat-Boon Heong out to end Cai Yun-Haifeng’s run


PETALING JAYA: China's number one pair Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng have been on a roll while Malaysians Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong are looking at striking it hot again ahead of the World Championships, which will be held at the Putra Stadium in Bukit Jalil from Aug 13-19.

The duo get the opportunity to get back on the winning track at the Philippines Open, which will begin tomorrow in Manila.

In the absence of the world number one and reigning world champions, Kien Keat-Boon Heong are the top seeds.

“For now, the Chinese are hot, having won consecutive titles. But we (Malaysian pairs) will be out to end their domination,” said Kien Keat in a telephone interview from Manila yesterday.

Cai Yun-Haifeng emerged as the champions in the China Masters on Sunday. They also won the preceding two legs of the Super Series in Singapore and Indonesia. And in helping China retain the Sudirman Cup world mixed team title in Glasgow last month, the duo did not drop a single match.

“They will make a return to competition in the world championships and they will run into Malaysian pairs.

“We have four pairs and we will be ready to give them a run for their money,” said Kien Keat.

Besides Kien Keat-Boon Heong, the other pairs preparing for the world championships are Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif and Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock. But the three pairs are not competing in the Philippines Open.

Kien Keat-Boon Heong have suffered a drop in form after making a blazing start in a newly-forged partnership. They emerged as champions in four tournaments, including the Doha Asiad and All-England.

Kien Keat said that he hoped they would come good in their last Open tournament before the world meet.

“This is our last shot to get some confidence ahead of the world meet. Boon Heong and I have trained very hard over the last two weeks and hopefully, we will be out to live up to our top billing here,” said the 22-year-old Kien Keat.

The duo are in the same half of the draw as Indonesians Sigit Budiarto-Fran Kurniawan and Joko Riyadi-Hendra A Gunawan and fellow Malaysians Chew Choon Eng-Hong Chieng Hun.
In the other half of the draw are the second seeded Indonesian-American combination of Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan.

aaron_11
07-21-2007, 05:56 AM
good news to all kkk/tbh fans.. they beat han sang hoon/cho gun woo 21-4 21-12 in 15 mins!!!!!!!!!! all the best kkk/tbh in finals

Dato A
01-09-2009, 10:55 PM
Now, they cant play with the presence of Rexy:D:D