Sigh what is happening to him, he's been disappointing ever since All Englands. His form has dropped so much, and it sounds like he just cbf, and is losing the passion to play. He just does not seem to even finish players much less talented than he is with scores of like 21-15 or less... he has to have macthes like 21-19 which is not encouraging....
Sigh.

I don't think he's in "shocking" form. LCW just really did play amazingly. I honestly think this is the best he has ever played. I don't think you should judge Lin Dan by the scores of his other matches though. Taufik is the same, he lets his earlier matches play out a bit. If Lin Dan put his absolute all into those matches I'm sure the scores would be quite different :).

sounds like how some Malaysians are talking about Koo Kien Keat and Tang Boon Heong (but KKK in particular)...

actually i really have to agree with him on this. full credit to lcw but when ld i on his day he really is unstoppable.the last time i saw him playing was the SO semi final against boonsak. his usual jumpsmashes werent there and he seems to be just walking around the court. its as if he is playing badminton but his heart isnt on the court playing with him.
Sigh what is happening to him, he's been disappointing ever since All Englands. His form has dropped so much, and it sounds like he just cbf, and is losing the passion to play. He just does not seem to even finish players much less talented than he is with scores of like 21-15 or less... he has to have macthes like 21-19 which is not encouraging....
Sigh.

Lin Dan definitely wasn't at the absolute tip top of his game. But he wasn't playing badly...

...and is losing the passion to play...
Agree,looks like he only care for the OG...:(

I dun think LD play his best against LCW. Maybe China already advance.

It was 4:0 already, Lin Dan lost the passion certainly. Maybe he want to win, but not eager to. From the other side, LCW really improved a lot after AE, more aggressive, consecutively beat CH,BCL and LD. That's a good thing for world badminton.

Did LCW win against Lin Dan?

Did LCW win against Lin Dan?

Yup big win 21-17, 21-17!

Agree,looks like he only care for the OG...:(

LD is experiencing what TH was experiencing last year...LD is following in the foot step of TH...eying major tournaments:D

Yes....he is now eying OG....but wait a minute....Taufik has also been eying the same target...LCW has also:D

Wow...it's getting more interesting now

everyone wants a gold medal

Wonder if LD is going to play in the next 2 tournaments - Thai Open and China OPen. Maybe he can get his revenge over LCW . Wud be interesting.
Also hope that LCW is not peaking too soon. WC is in August!!

Thanks.How did you find out the scores.Livescore? Astro's not showing right? As I know, they will show the play-off ties, semis and final.Anyways, I'm proud of LCW and hopefully he can maintain his superb form.

Any ones knows which countries are involved in which ties and at what times over ASTRO ?

I know tomorrow there's the play-off ties, but I don't know between which countries.It's on Astro at 5 or 7 pm if I'm not mistaken.My astro guide entah hilang ke mana.Haha.Really frustrated.

Thanks.How did you find out the scores.Livescore? Astro's not showing right? As I know, they will show the play-off ties, semis and final.Anyways, I'm proud of LCW and hopefully he can maintain his superb form.
Aiyah you missed it.
Astro did broadcast it live just now.

What??? Which channel?? Aiyoh....I'm so bodoh la...I seriously didn't know.

I hope LD doesn't turn into another Toufik, only cares about OG...,

His performance is lacking...., is it because China has already beat Mas 4-0? So he is not motivated?

LD will come back...trust me!!! otherwise LYB will kick his As*....I think CHN won 4-0 already so he did not want to risk plus he has to save his energy in case he has to play TH....even a win is a win for LCW...but LD,LCW,TH,BCL,CJ and PG are all same level...in any given day...they can beat each other.....so dont bash him......

Yeah, and there are bunch of talented teammates who waiting to take his place. So I'm sure he's still has something in him that make him holding the first single place of China.
The MS is getting more and more interesting with the balance of quality for each top player. Anything can happen like Bao beat TH and boonsak win the SO.

when your team is 4-0, you tends to relax a little bit.

if this is the first game, the result might be differ.

Had a chance to watch the match on TV while vacationing in beijing, all I can say is... If your team is up 4-0 and your berth is already secured, there's really no point for LD to try very hard and risk injurying himself in an otherwise meaningless match... Had this been an earlier game or had the score been tie 2-2 I'm sure he'll be playing with much more fire than what he showed...

interesting that this is the first match that China has lost including the 2005 SC, 2006 TC and 2006 UC.

when your team is 4-0, you tends to relax a little bit.

if this is the first game, the result might be differ.
I watched the match. LD was not relaxed . He looked lost because he was outclassed by LCW in every department. 80% of his smashes turned out for show because of LCW's incredible defence whereas 80% of LCW's smashes turned out killers.And LCW's netplay is No.1;TH would look No.2 here. I mean, how many times can any top 10 nurse the shuttle over the net in an upside down U path to land right on the line? If they can do it once, it's an achievement. LCW did it like 3 times! When LCW is No. 1 in speed, No. 1 in defence,No.1 in netplay and No. 1 in effective offense,what else can LD do?
And LD had the crowd support; not only that, LD got free points from the umpire and service judge (the real score should have been like 21-14;21-14). Good thing LCW is smart enough to not get distracted but just get on with his business.LCW pretty much control the match.

I hope LD doesn't turn into another Toufik, only cares about OG...,

His performance is lacking...., is it because China has already beat Mas 4-0? So he is not motivated?

That's what Lin Dan has to convince himself about his lost, lack of motivation, not because Lee Chong Wei played better. In reality, these players are in the same level(LCW on the way up while Lin Dan is sliding down in form) so the 85% of Lin Dan is just not good enough to beat the 95% of Lee Chong Wei.
I am for one very critical of Misbun but I am wrong, good for Misbun able to turn around LCW career in such a short span. Now, how can Misbun turn around Hafiz?

I watched the match. LD was not relaxed . He looked lost because he was outclassed by LCW in every department. 80% of his smashes turned out for show because of LCW's incredible defence whereas 80% of LCW's smashes turned out killers.And LCW's netplay is No.1;TH would look No.2 here. I mean, how many times can any top 10 nurse the shuttle over the net in an upside down U path to land right on the line? If they can do it once, it's an achievement. LCW did it like 3 times! When LCW is No. 1 in speed, No. 1 in defence,No.1 in netplay and No. 1 in effective offense,what else can LD do?
And LD had the crowd support; not only that, LD got free points from the umpire and service judge (the real score should have been like 21-14;21-14). Good thing LCW is smart enough to not get distracted but just get on with his business.LCW pretty much control the match.

and this only goes to prove what i have always said since day one: LCW outclasses his teammates when it comes to mental strength. just end of last year he suddenly lost his trust coach Li Mao, after a bit of struggle, he has picked himself up and put himself back into top form. and now, even in the last match on a already lost tie, he was still motivated to play his best badminton.

hats off to LCW.

as for LD, well, player performance goes up and down, just pick it up and come back during the WC.

congrats to China, and congrats to LCW....

but why do normal people (who are probably nice guys on court) turn in to stuck up, cocky, biased, black-and-white-viewing sportsfans when it comes to their idols?

LCW played a terrific match (I saw it on TVants) and LD looked slightly down (not under pressure? frustrated? who knows...). but why not just leave it at that? (LD lost the fire, lcw will win wc07 jada jada jada) it's just one match...

congrats to China, and congrats to LCW....

but why do normal people (who are probably nice guys on court) turn in to stuck up, cocky, biased, black-and-white-viewing sportsfans when it comes to their idols?

LCW played a terrific match (I saw it on TVants) and LD looked slightly down (not under pressure? frustrated? who knows...). but why not just leave it at that? (LD lost the fire, lcw will win wc07 jada jada jada) it's just one match...
Because you have chaps like Han who still believe LD lost not because LCW's superior. If LD was unmotivated, why were the scores moving neck-to-neck in the early stages? LD never go into a match to lose. When he knows he will lose, he will cop out, like in TO06 and IO07.
Because you have commentators like Andrew Smith and Gillian? who behave like grovellers when they started talking about LD's achievements...AS making a big point about LCW beating LD twice but only in Malaysia....towards the end, they both like went silent...... This is not just one match. This is one match to shut up AS and G so that they can learn to think before they talk.
This match is another watershed for LCW,just like the IO07 victory.
Funny enough, he may not win in Malaysia, who knows.

LD is experiencing what TH was experiencing last year...LD is following in the foot step of TH...eying major tournaments:D

Yes....he is now eying OG....but wait a minute....Taufik has also been eying the same target...LCW has also:D

Wow...it's getting more interesting now

And not to forget our favorite Danish star, Mr. Peter Gade, as he wishes
to make a grand exit hopefully with a gold medal in WC & Olympics.

Because you have chaps like Han who still believe LD lost not because LCW's superior. If LD was unmotivated, why were the scores moving neck-to-neck in the early stages? LD never go into a match to lose. When he knows he will lose, he will cop out, like in TO06 and IO07.
Because you have commentators like Andrew Smith and Gillian? who behave like grovellers when they started talking about LD's achievements...AS making a big point about LCW beating LD twice but only in Malaysia....towards the end, they both like went silent...... This is not just one match. This is one match to shut up AS and G so that they can learn to think before they talk.
This match is another watershed for LCW,just like the IO07 victory.
Funny enough, he may not win in Malaysia, who knows.

congrats to China, and congrats to LCW....

but why do normal people (who are probably nice guys on court) turn in to stuck up, cocky, biased, black-and-white-viewing sportsfans when it comes to their idols?

LCW played a terrific match (I saw it on TVants) and LD looked slightly down (not under pressure? frustrated? who knows...). but why not just leave it at that? (LD lost the fire, lcw will win wc07 jada jada jada) it's just one match...

I think most of the LD fans (myself included) would agree that LCW played better today, that LD lost to a stronger player today.

However, each player's and country's fans are always going to find reasons to justify their idols' losses and glorify the same players when they win.

I see an entire thread here filled primarily with large praises to one single match victory and how LD got completely outclassed and how there's no excuses for his losses, while at the same time I see another entire thread about how the lack of a coach being present caused an MD team's loss! Why the hypocrisy then!?

If LD has no excuses today then neither does KKK/TBH.

LCW won superbly in two sets today over his arch-rival LD while CY/FHF dominated their counterparts and have shown they're the undisputed number 1 currently.

There's so much complaints here when people try to rationalize LD's losses yet none when other players lose and the excuses fly all about??!!

I see an entire thread here filled primarily with large praises to one single match victory and how LD got completely outclassed and how there's no excuses for his losses, while at the same time I see another entire thread about how the lack of a coach being present caused an MD team's loss! Why the hypocrisy then!?

If LD has no excuses today then neither does KKK/TBH.



to be fair, the whole "lacking a coach" thread isn't all making excuses. quite a few members did have very objective view of the situation. only a few individuals had their emotions gotten the better of them.

This thread is starting to be more like war of the fans.

LD fans are giving reasons why they think he lost, while LCW fans are like in your face LD.

For me, and some other people out there think that it's just a good match and a well earned victory for LCW.

I'm just hoping that the finals will be China VS Malaysia so that we can see some more exciting exciting match like today.

This thread is starting to be more like war of the fans.

But it's always like that. :p

kudos to LCW, but the problem is, the tie wasn't that important, so i doubt LD was too motivated to win. i think in a knockout individual tournament, we'll see a more inspired performance.

Because you have chaps like Han who still believe LD lost not because LCW's superior. If LD was unmotivated, why were the scores moving neck-to-neck in the early stages? LD never go into a match to lose. When he knows he will lose, he will cop out, like in TO06 and IO07.
Because you have commentators like Andrew Smith and Gillian? who behave like grovellers when they started talking about LD's achievements...AS making a big point about LCW beating LD twice but only in Malaysia....towards the end, they both like went silent...... This is not just one match. This is one match to shut up AS and G so that they can learn to think before they talk.
This match is another watershed for LCW,just like the IO07 victory.
Funny enough, he may not win in Malaysia, who knows.
yeah, LCW trounced LD just to show those darn commentators, that's right! ;):p

LCW is an amazing player, so is LD...both love the game and showed up on court today because they want to play and win...It's really quite pointless to argue about why one lost... In the end one of them has to lose, and the top is close enough to get varying results (no player will álways beat the other)

I didn't see the match but it is very reasonable to ask whether you can truly give it your all for a match that doesn't matter to the final outcome. LD prolly never likes to lose even in practise but even so, it likely had some bearing especially since he knows that the tourney isn't over and energy saved might come in handy later.

yeah, LCW trounced LD just to show those darn commentators, that's right! ;):p

LCW is an amazing player, so is LD...both love the game and showed up on court today because they want to play and win...It's really quite pointless to argue about why one lost... In the end one of them has to lose, and the top is close enough to get varying results (no player will álways beat the other)


Although I favor LCW more than LD, I think we should all be fair and recongized the score of 21-17 in both sets are close enough to not be considered as being "trounced" up on!

I remember that at some point in his career, LCW lost in 2 sets to other players such as PG & BCL & TH with a worst score (usually against TH).

I guess this is people's inital reaction to LCW having finally won a game from LD on neutral ground. I understand but I wish we would all respect other players and their fans.

I'm sorry..I should've been more clear...but that was a parody, I was being sarcastic (note the smily faces?)

I'm not really a "fan" of any player (or maybe a fan of all players?) but what that post shoudl translate to was a less blunt equivalent to "LCW beat LD today, great for him, bad for LD, now everybody just get over yourself"

;) in my defence: I tríed to be nice at first :p (see, smileys again, meaning I'm happy, not angry or frustrated)

Okay sorry about the first part of my post as I thought you meant something negative towards LD.

But just like the rest of my post, I agree with you that people should get over themselves with small wins or defeats. This is a common trend that I've noticed, especially when KKK/TBH start beating TG/CW & FHF/CY and the other way around when FHF/CY beat KKK/TBH for the first time.

This sort of thing is childish because we should look at the overall bigger picture, like LD's consistency or TH's major accomplishments rather than who was able to beat LD or TH in one particular tournament.

This is a little off topic, and this is not to defend LD lost to LCW. But do you guys think that China over played LD? I mean was it necessary to play LD when they're playing against England or Thailand. They took BCL and CJ and they have yet get to played. I don't know what's China thinking, why take them along if they're just going to be bench warmers.

This is a little off topic, and this is not to defend LD lost to LCW. But do you guys think that China over played LD? I mean was it necessary to play LD when they're playing against England or Thailand. They took BCL and CJ and they have yet get to played. I don't know what's China thinking, why take them along if they're just going to be bench warmers.

LYB, for whatever reason, (ego, arrogance) has always says that he will field the best players on all ties, regardless of the opponent's strength. so that's what he did, he has always fielded what he thought was the best player that day. there are some variations between ZN and XXF as ZN is reported to have an injury so XXF stepped in one day. and WD he just mix and match as he wish as they are all as strong anyway. good time to experiment with new pairings.

at least he kept to his words. haha. ;)

mind you, that is actually not a bad thing, if everyone do that instead of playing team tactics like THA did for the THA-CHN tie, we will see more exciting and closely fought match.

This thread is starting to be more like war of the fans.

LD fans are giving reasons why they think he lost, while LCW fans are like in your face LD.

For me, and some other people out there think that it's just a good match and a well earned victory for LCW.

I'm just hoping that the finals will be China VS Malaysia so that we can see some more exciting exciting match like today.
well, it is just pent up frustration releasing from the LCW fans since LCW was more or less mediocre in 2006. I'm glad LD lost because he might get back his motiviation to win. Remember that LD is just back from an injury rest, why yourself push to the limit, plus china takes 4-0 anyway. If lcw fans can't tell which one of LD or LCW is superior, just count the number of titles each have, this will clear up their confusion.

Seems Lin Dan was just enjoying the game, giving LCW a good game, much like a sparing partner. LCW would have a higher confidence going in against Denmark's Peter Gade.

well, it is just pent up frustration releasing from the LCW fans since LCW was more or less mediocre in 2006. I'm glad LD lost because he might get back his motiviation to win. Remember that LD is just back from an injury rest, why yourself push to the limit, plus china takes 4-0 anyway. If lcw fans can't tell which one of LD or LCW is superior, just count the number of titles each have, this will clear up their confusion.

Bottom line, we are fan and have ups and downs just like the players :D I don't see anything wrong about disagreement and faithful to your believe about which players are the best as along as we don't do personal attack. Heck, this is the chat room and if we all agree on everything then what to chat about?
Is all Kwun's fault, creating this place for us to dis-agree :D

Is all Kwun's fault, creating this place for us to dis-agree :D

yeah. it is my fault. so let's move on... ;)

yeah. it is my fault. so let's move on... ;)

Yeah, it's all Kwun's fault and for his punishment, we need to all pitch in and get him an EOS 1DMK3. :p

Yeah, it's all Kwun's fault and for his punishment, we need to all pitch in and get him an EOS 1DMK3. :p

Oh, body only. ;)

I watched the match. LD was not relaxed . He looked lost because he was outclassed by LCW in every department. 80% of his smashes turned out for show because of LCW's incredible defence whereas 80% of LCW's smashes turned out killers.And LCW's netplay is No.1;TH would look No.2 here. I mean, how many times can any top 10 nurse the shuttle over the net in an upside down U path to land right on the line? If they can do it once, it's an achievement. LCW did it like 3 times! When LCW is No. 1 in speed, No. 1 in defence,No.1 in netplay and No. 1 in effective offense,what else can LD do?
And LD had the crowd support; not only that, LD got free points from the umpire and service judge (the real score should have been like 21-14;21-14). Good thing LCW is smart enough to not get distracted but just get on with his business.LCW pretty much control the match.

i totally agree with you...
LD was not relaxed at all...he shook his head, he slowly hit his head with his racquet, he even stressed out...and by the way...LD is currently world no.1 player...wouldn't it be a shame that china only won 4-1 instead of 5-0, and that all of CHN other players won, but not LD...?so LD did take the match seriously..

but hey, LCW played greatly well...

and LCW won because he deserves to won, not because LD was being playful or undetermined...

although MAS lost, but MAS is the first team that manages to break the CHN's record of 5-0 win...and MAS one point is from beating CHN no.1 player...

that's GOOD enough...
as i said, in order to make LYB eats his words, all MAS got to do is to snatch one point by defeating one of his top players...and by beating LD, i'm sure somehow it affected LYB... :D

i totally agree with you...
LD was not relaxed at all...he shook his head, he slowly hit his head with his racquet, he even stressed out...and by the way...LD is currently world no.1 player...wouldn't it be a shame that china only won 4-1 instead of 5-0, and that all of CHN other players won, but not LD...?so LD did take the match seriously..

but hey, LCW played greatly well...

and LCW won because he deserves to won, not because LD was being playful or undetermined...

although MAS lost, but MAS is the first team that manages to break the CHN's record of 5-0 win...and MAS one point is from beating CHN no.1 player...

that's GOOD enough...
as i said, in order to make LYB eats his words, all MAS got to do is to snatch one point by defeating one of his top players...and by beating LD, i'm sure somehow it affected LYB... :Dlol, go ahead and gloat while the sun is shining. Until lcw wins a top title in WC, OG, or AE, u still can't compare him to LD, TH or PG.

This is not to take away LCW's achievement so far but it is normal to have players to beat LD in certain days of the year. If u gloat too much, it will backfire on u LCW fans. Just look at kkk/tbn, they were considered legendary, a new era for MAL but after doing some homework, FHF/CaiY can quash them like....

lol, go ahead and gloat while the sun is shining. Until lcw wins a top title in WC, OG, or AE, u still can't compare him to LD, TH or PG.

This is not to take away LCW's achievement so far but it is normal to have players to beat LD in certain days of the year.


ya, whatever...
still, LCW won yesterday... :p

Ahem....I kind of expected LD to lose when I saw the order of play that Kwun posted. It was important that Chn snatches the 1st three matches and they did that. I don't expect the WD to lose because it would be too obvious. So maybe Chn was doing Mas a favour because if Tha beat England, Mas would be through to the semi. No jest joking. Okay LCW played better than LD yesterday & deserves that victory!! But that is not to say that LD is doomed in the days to come.

Okay LCW played better than LD yesterday & deserves that victory!! But that is not to say that LD is doomed in the days to come.


i agree...
i'm a reasonable fan...
LCW played better than LD yesterday...(and i strongly believe that LD being a professional player he is, has played determinely as well...not just for the sake of playing...coz 21-17 showed a hell off a fight)
but..yup....
that doesn't mean LD is doomed in the days to come...
everything is still too early too tell...
:D peace...

lets see if we can see another lcw-ld matches after this.... ;)

i agree...
i'm a reasonable fan...
LCW played better than LD yesterday...(and i strongly believe that LD being a professional player he is, has played determinely as well...not just for the sake of playing...coz 21-17 showed a hell off a fight)


ur wrong, LD is a professional soldier in the big red army of china except that LD specialized in badminton skills. china house, train and feed LD. China keep ~1/2 of LD winnings. LD is told who to play, when to play, and where to play. Hardly a professional status player. Federer and tiger wood are professinals. Check out the differences.

I hope u don't teach 'ya, whatever' skills and knowledges to your pupils LOL

ur wrong, LD is a professional soldier in the big red army of china except that LD specialized in badminton skills. china house, train and feed LD. China keep ~1/2 of LD winnings. LD is told who to play, when to play, and where to play. Hardly a professional status player. Federer and tiger wood are professinals. Check out the differences.

I hope u don't teach 'ya, whatever' skills and knowledges' to your pupils LOL

looks like we're seeing things in a very different perspective, here...

the word 'professional' can means a lot, dude...in terms of syntax, semantics and pragmatics...

'professional' here refers to him not taking the game easily although his team has already won 4-0...it also refers to him still trying to play a good game and win another point for his country...it means...he is a player who plays not only for country but for personal pride...him and LCW...if they are not being professional, the match won't even be executed cause whoever wins, still the victory belongs to CHN...that's what i meant...

but thanks for the info...although...seriously, i know the difference...

and by the way, it is FUNNY to see how you are disturbed by my 'ya, whatever' phrase...

:D peace

What a turnaround ! MAS is now ahead in Men's singles and down in men's doubles. It goes to show that we can never be sure what can happen at any time. This game is not dominated by any country.

But currently, LCW is the champ. As long as he stays fit, the WC is within reach. LCW has really improved out of sight after going back to Misbun, no two ways about it.

looks like we're seeing things in a very different perspective, here...

the word 'professional' can means a lot, dude...in terms of syntax, semantics and pragmatics...

'professional' here refers to him not taking the game easily although his team has already won 4-0...it also refers to him still trying to play a good game and win another point for his country...it means...he is a player who plays not only for country but for personal pride...him and LCW...if they are not being professional, the match won't even be executed cause whoever wins, still the victory belongs to CHN...that's what i meant...

but thanks for the info...although...seriously, i know the difference...

and by the way, it is FUNNY to see how you are disturbed by my 'ya, whatever' phrase...

:D peace
let me clarify, LD is a professional soldier, not a professional player. In sudirman cup, LD is playing for his country standing, his personal prides are represented by all his hardwares already. What good it do for his country (china) if LD go all out and risk injury over 'nothing'?

i'm not disturbed, your 'whatever' is just a cope out statement. It reflect upon u more so than me. So, I'm not disturbed at all.

Super Dan" is not superman, says Chinese head coach(Xinhua)
Updated: 2007-06-15 08:21



Chinese head coach Li Yongbo said that he had no worries for world number one Lin Dan, who missed a point in China's 4-1 win over Malaysia at badminton Sudirman Cup on Thursday.

Holders China, who already advanced into semifinals on the strength of 5-0 thrashing of Thailand and England, had been expected to present another whitewash in their final Group A match against Malaysia, but Asian champion Lee Chong Wei surprised Lin 21-17, 21-17 in the final game of men's singles.

It was the first time since the 2003 final that China had not won a Sudirman Cup match 5-0.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/sports/2007-06/15/xin_04060415083328209591.jpg
China's Lin Dan checks his racket during his badminton match against Malaysia's Lee Chong Wei at the Sudirman Cup World Team Badminton Championships in Glasgow, Scotland June 14,2007.[Reuters]
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/image_e/insertphotomore.gif (http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/photo)"Don't think of him as a superman," Li said of the 23-year-old, known as "Super Dan" for his talents.

"Since we have qualified for the semifinals and already won the match with four points in hand, Lin might feel relaxed and it's not necessary for him to win his game."

"It's not saying he didn't take the game seriously. He just didn't play his best. He's not a superman."

However, the Chinese leading shuttler did not utter a word after his defeat and walked directly into the changing room through a batch of Chinese reporters who wanted to interview him.

Lin has been a frequent visitor to the top of the world rankings but tended to have under-par performance in major events.

He suffered a shock opening round exit in the Athens Olympic Games in 2004 and the 2005 world championships final became a nightmare as he was routed 3-15, 7-15 by arch rival Taufik Hidayak of Indonesia.

"Lee is better prepared than Lin. He wanted to prove himself and kind of changed his game. The defeat is a good thing to Lin and he will learn from it," Li said.

"Looking to the semifinals, I might make minor changes to our lineup because of injury and fitness. But definitely I still have confidence in Lin. He has been steady in team competition."

China, who will meet South Korea in Saturday's semifinals, are hot favorites to retain the title and Li was confident to win their sixth Sudirman Cup.

"It would be the breaking news if China could not win the tournament," he said.



To all the fans out there, hope Li YB's statements can answer some of your queries.

i'm not disturbed, your 'whatever' is just a cope out statement. It reflect upon u more so than me. So, I'm not disturbed at all.

whatever you say, man... (in other words, you're a free man, and so am i..you can say anything you want...so...)

(*do i need to clarify what i mean by the word 'free' here...? no, right...?*)

:D
*i find this to be so hillarious...*

whatever you say, man... (in other words, you're a free man, and so am i..you can say anything you want...so...)

(*do i need to clarify what i mean by the word 'free' here...? no, right...?*)

:D
*i find this to be so hillarious...*
lol, no need to u to clarify except for yourself.
I have 11929 posts and u have 34, so i'm 'more' free than u r LOL

* i find u to be so hilarious...*

lol, no need to u to clarify except for yourself.
I have 11929 posts and u have 34, so i'm 'more' free than u r LOL

* i find u to be so hilarious...*

U are hilarious Cooler.

let me clarify, LD is a professional soldier, not a professional player. In sudirman cup, LD is playing for his country standing, his personal prides are represented by all his hardwares already. What good it do for his country (china) if LD go all out and risk injury over 'nothing'?

i'm not disturbed, your 'whatever' is just a cope out statement. It reflect upon u more so than me. So, I'm not disturbed at all.

come on, just take a look of this from sina china

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北京时间14日下午，中国队将迎战亚洲劲敌 马来西亚 (http://www.iask.com/n?k=%C2%ED%C0%B4%CE%F7%D1%C7)队。作为男单主力，林丹在第三场小组赛上将会 与马来西亚的李宗伟相遇，显然林丹对击败这位老对手非常自信，他说:“我以前在马来西亚跟他打时输过两次， 但在其他地方比赛我都是赢的。李宗伟是一个很全面很强的对手，对他的比赛肯定会很艰苦，但我的目标还是要战 胜每个国家最强的选手。”李永波显然也对爱将信心百倍，他表示:“我相信下一场球会更好，打团体赛运动员的 状态会越来越好，越优秀的运动员越会表现出这样一个过程。”
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or you ask someone to translate should you have problem to read

U are hilarious Cooler.
try to be more informative, tell me something that i dunno...:rolleyes:

try to be more informative, tell me something that i dunno...:rolleyes:


That is what I did, told you that you are hilarious.:rolleyes:

hmn..if LYB really not so concern about the match. Then why he walk in to coach LD during the match break? And for LD, he had stated that he want to win over LCW to prove his current condition...

Super Dan" is not superman, says Chinese head coach(Xinhua)
Updated: 2007-06-15 08:21

Chinese head coach Li Yongbo said that he had no worries for world number one Lin Dan, who missed a point in China's 4-1 win over Malaysia at badminton Sudirman Cup on Thursday.


"Lee is better prepared than Lin. He wanted to prove himself and kind of changed his game. The defeat is a good thing to Lin and he will learn from it," Li said.

"Looking to the semifinals, I might make minor changes to our lineup because of injury and fitness. But definitely I still have confidence in Lin. He has been steady in team competition."

China, who will meet South Korea in Saturday's semifinals, are hot favorites to retain the title and Li was confident to win their sixth Sudirman Cup.

"It would be the breaking news if China could not win the tournament," he said.



To all the fans out there, hope Li YB's statements can answer some of your queries.

That is what I did, told you that you are hilarious.:rolleyes:hmm, u know more than what i know about myself. You must be god....
:rolleyes:

hmm, u know more than what i know about myself. You must be god....
:rolleyes:

off topic.....where's the beef?

hmm, u know more than what i know about myself. You must be god....
:rolleyes:

Silly boy, I know you are hilarious but not that hilarious.:D

off topic.....where's the beef?
ya, there are lotta drive by shootings here (ie. trolls)

Silly boy, I know you are hilarious but not that hilarious.:D
make up your mind, will ya?

I will be back to the ori topic.Its just a bad time 4 LD.Its hard 4 me to say but he will be back.he will. I dont like him but i miss his smile when he win.He will be back.Dont worry.im not his fan.of course.But if he's not around,its not a badminton game.

IS his relationship with XXF okay these days?
This might be troubling him too

LD may not be in top form, but to call it "shocking form" is a bit too much, don't you think?

Anyway, I hope to enjoy two more battles between the best MS players, LCW vs Gade and hopefully, LD vs Taufik (provided both teams win their semis).

well, it is just pent up frustration releasing from the LCW fans since LCW was more or less mediocre in 2006. I'm glad LD lost because he might get back his motiviation to win. Remember that LD is just back from an injury rest, why yourself push to the limit, plus china takes 4-0 anyway. If lcw fans can't tell which one of LD or LCW is superior, just count the number of titles each have, this will clear up their confusion.
Titles? We re talking about now. Actually what was revealing about the SC match was that LCW's skills are superior to LD, not that LCW played better.Watch the match with your eyes and mind wide open, cooler. I just realise that LD is No. 1 in nothing except his world ranking and showy smash.
But you know the real reason why LD lost? He was moonlighting for a certain brand of hair gel. Applied too much, making him look like he donned a Roman warrior head gear. Unfortunately he forgot he's playing badminton. The gelled hair generated significant air resistance,resulting in his loss of speed and may also have affected his cognitive abilities. Advice to him: Go bald.By the way I don't think he will ever recover from his SO07 injury until he retires.

hmn..if LYB really not so concern about the match. Then why he walk in to coach LD during the match break? And for LD, he had stated that he want to win over LCW to prove his current condition...

My view -" LYB is really not so concern" is that he didn't consider the loss destructive since Chn is already through to the semis. As for LD, if I am not wrong, he has always been positive in his approach to matches when asked by the media. Those who strongly believe in psychological advantage will agree with his action. Others may deemed it as overconfident or arrogant perhaps.

As R. Federer said the loss at the FO 07 will not kill him although he is disappointed. Sometimes, it is not all that bad that top players loses one or two matches. It can be a wake-up call and takes the player to a higher level.

This is a little off topic, and this is not to defend LD lost to LCW. But do you guys think that China over played LD? I mean was it necessary to play LD when they're playing against England or Thailand. They took BCL and CJ and they have yet get to played. I don't know what's China thinking, why take them along if they're just going to be bench warmers.
Don't be surprised CJ plays in SF and BCL in F.

LD may not be in top form, but to call it "shocking form" is a bit too much, don't you think?

Anyway, I hope to enjoy two more battles between the best MS players, LCW vs Gade and hopefully, LD vs Taufik (provided both teams win their semis).when ur #1, everybody else want to shoot u down. I know how it feel;):D

now the showdown include

LD vs LCW
LD vs TH

Old showdown but died off

LD vs siman santoso
LD vs Lee HI
LD vs PG

Titles? We re talking about now. Actually what was revealing about the SC match was that LCW's skills are superior to LD, not that LCW played better.Watch the match with your eyes and mind wide open, cooler. I just realise that LD is No. 1 in nothing except his world ranking and showy smash.
But you know the real reason why LD lost? He was moonlighting for a certain brand of hair gel. Applied too much, making him look like he donned a Roman warrior head gear. Unfortunately he forgot he's playing badminton. The gelled hair generated significant air resistance,resulting in his loss of speed and may also have affected his cognitive abilities. Advice to him: Go bald.By the way I don't think he will ever recover from his SO07 injury until he retires.
Your indepth analysis is truly revealing of your intelligence. Keep it up!!:)

LD may not be in top form, but to call it "shocking form" is a bit too much, don't you think?

Anyway, I hope to enjoy two more battles between the best MS players, LCW vs Gade and hopefully, LD vs Taufik (provided both teams win their semis).

What "SHOCKING FORM"??? He did win all his other matches with ease. LD is not slacking like what LCW was for almost a year after his defeat to BCL before he reinstated himself recently. Honestly, I think LCW is in fiery form, and LD lost to a better player on his day, only if you have seen the match LIVE yesterday.

I think MAS will feature WCH playing against PG or KJ in the final playoff match. WCH have not tasted action since he set foot in Glasgow. It's time for him to secure some Olympic points. Isn't that what BAM sent him there for?

What "SHOCKING FORM"??? He did win all his other matches with ease. LD is not slacking like what LCW was for almost a year after his defeat to BCL before he reinstated himself recently. Honestly, I think LCW is in fiery form, and LD lost to a better player on his day, only if you have seen the match LIVE yesterday.

That's what I meant. The thread is called "Lin Dan in shocking form". And like you, I disagree with statements that imply Lin Dan is not trying hard enough or played very badly.

Please read what I wrote carefully

Titles? We re talking about now. Actually what was revealing about the SC match was that LCW's skills are superior to LD, not that LCW played better.Watch the match with your eyes and mind wide open, cooler. I just realise that LD is No. 1 in nothing except his world ranking and showy smash.

Of course LCW's skill is much better than LD.
LD's top in ranking because he was physically fit and played speedy game.
From yesterday's match LCW covered the court too well that hardly for LD to show his power smash.
Overall we can say that LCW is in top form and LD is not yet recovered from his injury since SO. But we have to admit that both are great players.:D

That's what I meant. The thread is called "Lin Dan in shocking form". And like you, I disagree with statements that imply Lin Dan is not trying hard enough or played very badly.

Please read what I wrote carefully

So so right! I totally agreed with you here. This thread should be, "LCW IN FIERY FORM" instead. Actually I wanted to say that I agreed with what you wrote earlier and after I read it. Sorry ya, I wasn't trying to insinuate, my error was I quoted your paragraph. Cheer and peace be with you, abedeng.

Titles? We re talking about now. Actually what was revealing about the SC match was that LCW's skills are superior to LD, not that LCW played better.Watch the match with your eyes and mind wide open, cooler. I just realise that LD is No. 1 in nothing except his world ranking and showy smash.
But you know the real reason why LD lost? He was moonlighting for a certain brand of hair gel. Applied too much, making him look like he donned a Roman warrior head gear. Unfortunately he forgot he's playing badminton. The gelled hair generated significant air resistance,resulting in his loss of speed and may also have affected his cognitive abilities. Advice to him: Go bald.By the way I don't think he will ever recover from his SO07 injury until he retires.


LOL, I like it....the gelled hair bit.

Not only gelled, but also the silver coloured highlight !! Reminds me of the Brylcream ad.....the MU fan got his ass kicked out of the Liverpool clubhouse but the first thing he asked "Is my hair still standing !! "