2007 Sudirman Cup - Day 5 - Friday

[hcyong]

Good match to finish it off

[samuel882]

MAS game over 19-21

[hcyong]

Polish them nicely and in one or two years, they will be a top 10 pair.

[hcyong]

And Woon Khe Wei is kinda cute :)

[hcyong]

A good weapon to distract the opponent man player.

[samuel882]

And Woon Khe Wei is kinda cute :)

yes.. and she looks like TWINS Ah Sa (80%) ..LOL

[kwun]

Group 1 bottom half ranking:

5th - DEN
6th - MAS
7th - HKG
8th - THA

[niezzam6177]

And Woon Khe Wei is kinda cute :)

I couldn't agreed more...:D. We have same taste...hahaha

[hcyong]

Poor THA. What happened to them?

[Tjun Tjun]

The young Malaysians played well despite losing, very good fighting spirit. Very bright future indeed. I'm sure they will do much better in future. Congrats to the danes.....

[samuel882]

Poor THA. What happened to them?

THEY lost in XD.. surprise evy 1 !

[hcyong]

I couldn't agreed more...:D. We have same taste...hahaha

Good thing she's 18 or we're criminals.

[wilfredlgf]

Good thing she's 18 or we're criminals.
That will make everybody under eighteen juvenile delinquents.

Note to self: look for pictures tomorrow.

[hcyong]

5th, 6th, what's the difference? And the grapes are a bit sour today.

[hcyong]

And possibly the most important tie today, JPN v SIN. Should be good. Singles would be one-sided. Doubles would be closer.

[samuel882]

TWK/WKW will be strong contenders for a medals 2012 London Olympics but not for 2008 Beijing edition.. Js not yet...

Provided their combination will remain till then..

[hcyong]

Promotions:
to Div1 - JPN v SIN
to Div2 - FRA v IND
to Div3 - CZE
to Div4 - IRE
to Div5 - POR

Relegations:
to Div2 - THA
to Div3 - SWE
to Div4 - UKR v FIN
to Div5 - SPA
to Div6 - NOR

[kwun]

evening matches have started.

SIN vs. JPN will determine Group 2 -> Group 1 promotion.
FRA vs. IND will determine Group 3 -> Group 2 promotion.

[hcyong]

Earlier I predicted JPN 3-2. Now I change it to SIN 3-1.

[amaze]

I think I'll need to see a little more of them in action before I'll say if they are going to become good. So far I'm not impressed with Woon KW's play.

[pramilainc]

How come JPN not fielding Sato Shoji ? He would have given Susilo at leasta scare or two...

[hcyong]

FRA v IND is too close to call, too. Singles should be split between the two. Again, it's a doubles battle.

[hcyong]

How come JPN not fielding Sato Shoji ? He would have given Susilo at leasta scare or two...

Sato is struggling in this tournament. May as well throw caution to the wind and field a wild card.

[x50926x]

wow, keita matsuda looks kinda old...
the jap team is really supportive, lol.

[virusvoodoo]

Originally Posted by kwun
here are my predictions:

DEN 3-2 MAS
THA 4-1 HKG

I agree with your predictions but I think it will be VERY CLOSE and Malaysia could end up winning. The crucial matches for both countries would be MS, WS, & WD. Denmark is likely to win in mixed if everything goes well while Malaysia is banking on KOO Kien Kiet & TAN Boon Heong in MD.

Peter GADE has to play his best to beat an in-form LEE C hong Wei and Tine RASMUSSEN will have to use her opportunity to edge out a slightly injured WONG Meu Choo (correct spelling?). I have not a clue with WD but I think Malaysia holds the slight advantage here which is why Denmark needs to win MS & WS to ensure their victory.


I was correct although the lineup was different than I thought it would be!

Denmark won 3-2 over Malaysia!

[edwin]

Another potential upset? Kenichi Tago is leading Ronald Susilo 17-12 in the rubber match. Oh wait. Susilo cut that lead to 17-15

[edwin]

Now it's 18-15 for Kenichi.

[edwin]

19-17 for Kenichi Tago

[edwin]

now 20-18 for Kenichi. Can Susilo comeback?

[edwin]

20-20. Momentum should give Susilo the advantage

[edwin]

Kenichi won. Who could have thought that not playing Shoji Sato was the move that will give Japan the victory in MS?

[xt6666]

Who says, that Shoji Sato would have lost?!? ;-)

[madturtle]

Singapore are goners now. Why did they not field kendrick! he's more steady at the moment. i don't foresee us winning the women's doubles.

[blckknght]

Who says, that Shoji Sato would have lost?!? ;-)


Dont know if Sato would have lost or not, but the coach definitely made the right decision in fielding a different player.

[madbad]

Congrats to France who took out the more fancied India 3-0

[madbad]

Canada picks up a point, now trails NZ 1-2

[madbad]

Do or die for SIN now. Not looking good even if they win the MD. JAP WD cuties should take care of biz if the guys can't.

[edwin]

Do or die for SIN now. Not looking good even if they win the MD. JAP WD cuties should take care of biz if the guys can't.
If it goes down to WD, that should be a very interesting matchup. Maybe just like the HK vs Thailand tie, the score will be 22-20 in the 3rd match?

[angelatby]

I'm watching movie at the same time. So a bit slow in posting

What ??? Malaysia really lost to Denmark :crying:

[huangkwokhau]

What ??? Malaysia really lost to Denmark :crying:
3-2 for DEN...wow...you woke up already????:confused::confused:

[angelatby]

3-2 for DEN...wow...you woke up already????:confused::confused:

Yeah, woke up already, and u havent turn off for whole day :p My God, Malaysia Female Players REALLY NEED TO BUCK UP !! I have never seen anyone who are really up to expectation so far, they show no threat to other countries --- > 'Female Players' at all. :crying:

[angelatby]

I really put my WHOLE HEART to bet on WONG PEI TYE / CHIN YI HUI, i thought they can really make it...... the WS & XD are more predictable, really dissappointed. Malaysia cannot depends on LEE CHONG WEI forever, the moment he drops a bit, there and then supporters backslided, now that he is coming back to form, everyone stands at his side, what a reality world, cant imagine how pressure is he and how if we dont have LEE CHONG WEI anymore//

[madbad]

If it goes down to WD, that should be a very interesting matchup. Maybe just like the HK vs Thailand tie, the score will be 22-20 in the 3rd match?

SIN guys win the MD, so it IS down to the WD. That would be unbelievable if it went to rubber and deuce!

[huangkwokhau]

Yeah, woke up already, and u havent turn off for whole day :p My God, Malaysia Female Players REALLY NEED TO BUCK UP !! I have never seen anyone who are really up to expectation so far, they show no threat to other countries --- > 'Female Players' at all. :crying:

No..I did....I went for meeting and come back home....I may see fantastic 4 later....:D

[huangkwokhau]

I think JPN WD should take this match...I did not expect Ronald lost...otherwise Sin will be in division 1...haiya....what a dissapointment!!!

[huangkwokhau]

SIN WD is leading with a huge 8-2

[madbad]

SIN women with a giant lead 11-2! :eek::eek:

[angelatby]

No..I did....I went for meeting and come back home....I may see fantastic 4 later....:D

My God, what time is over your place ?? So nice, fantastic 4, i only want to see Jessica Alba for that movie, he he, she is so pretty & sweet. Malaysia is showing that movie now :) My prediction was wrong, Malaysia 2-3, sigh~

[avataar]

hi does anyone know if the SC is shown live in the UAE.

alternatively any recommendations to catch a live web feed would be appreciated.

CHN vs KOR
ENG vs IND

would like to see a KOR vs IND final...

[angelatby]

Now still have match ?? Keep posting the Results please, THANKS!

[angelatby]

hi does anyone know if the SC is shown live in the UAE.

alternatively any recommendations to catch a live web feed would be appreciated.

CHN vs KOR
ENG vs IND

would like to see a KOR vs IND final...

Which the possibility is less than 10% :eek:

[ronk]

I just woke up from a nap to find that the match is tied 2-2. It looks like Japan will win the second game and the match will be decided in a rubber game. It is close as both sides are fighting very hard for promotion to division 1.

[avataar]

angelatby - how do you see it going......

[blckknght]

this is a tight one between singapore and japan. my bet is still on shimada and ogura.

[ronk]

JAP WD won the second game so it is the final WD rubber game that decides which country gets promoted and which stays in Div 2. I am sure the fans are biting their nails.

[angelatby]

angelatby - how do you see it going......

China obviously is unbeatable by Korea.
I think most probably the Final will be between China vs Indonesia, which im looking forward to as well. :p We will see the shadow for the Champion on tomorrow, lol. Now get back to sleep first, nitezz :p

[huangkwokhau]

My God, what time is over your place ?? So nice, fantastic 4, i only want to see Jessica Alba for that movie, he he, she is so pretty & sweet. Malaysia is showing that movie now :) My prediction was wrong, Malaysia 2-3, sigh~
Now.....2.45 pm....movie will show at 4.30 pm.....www.parklabrea.com....where I live and Grove is there....

[huangkwokhau]

15-12 for WD JPN...3rd set

[avataar]

JPN vs SIN WD final rubber - nail biting stuff 16-12 ogura and shiota lead - cant sleep till this ends....

[huangkwokhau]

this is LIVE and DIE match...16-13 for JPN

[huangkwokhau]

JPN is widening the gap..18-13...seems Jpn will seal the deal

[roller]

Singapore had so many service errors especially Li Yujia

[huangkwokhau]

Japan WD won in 3 sets...so JPN will be Div 1 in 2009

[ronk]

Japanese gals won 21-14. Japan is promoted.

[hcyong]

Biggest result of the day: Ronald losing to Kenichi Tago. I happened to be sleeping throughout this match.

[huangkwokhau]

Congrats to Japan !!...I wish SIN would be the one....yes...never think Ronald would lose to Tago...thats a shock!!!..seems that he has not been around that long....

[kwun]

Biggest result of the day: Ronald losing to Kenichi Tago. I happened to be sleeping throughout this match.

two demotion was cause by an upset:

THA-HKG - THA MX lost to HKG
SIN-JPN - SIN MS lost to JPN

[huangkwokhau]

two demotion was cause by an upset:

THA-HKG - THA MX lost to HKG
SIN-JPN - SIN MS lost to JPN

KWUN...Only THA is demoted....

Sin will stay in div 2 but Japan gets promoted...;)

[badMania]

Ouch....Ronald Susilo lost to Japan's rising star, the 2006 AJC Champion, Kenichi Tago in rubber sets (20-22 in the 3rd set). That caused SIN's downfall :mad: The doubles are split as expected. What a close one.....

[twobeer]

Congrats to Japan !!...I wish SIN would be the one....yes...never think Ronald would lose to Tago...thats a shock!!!..seems that he has not been around that long....

I think I wrote a post long time ago to keep an eye on Tago :-) really talented youngster.. He was down i think 7-12 in the second and was able to turn the match around, and become Japans hero of the day!! wow!!

/Twobeer

[kwun]

KWUN...Only THA is demoted....

Sin will stay in div 2 but Japan gets promoted...;)

oh yes. i am still dizzy after coming out of a meeting. :p

[Dreamzz]

many congrats to the JAP team, 2 unexpected results today with JAP replacing THA in division 1 next time.

[huangkwokhau]

Good that we have another rising star from Japan, Tago.....now we have Tan chun Sheang, Andre Kurniawan for future players....how about china? Hope Chen Jin will be around...

[Han]

two demotion was cause by an upset:

THA-HKG - THA MX lost to HKG
SIN-JPN - SIN MS lost to JPN

Wow, can't imagine Sudket and Saralee lost to relatively unknown players from HK.

[madturtle]

why did susilo lose! and why in the first place was he fielded! when i saw the line-up i was like OMG, and now thanks to this smart line-up singapore will stay in div 2 for the next 4 years and they only have themselves to blame. i don't see how they can ever beat thailand 2 years down the road.:mad:

[nackilsung]

I think I wrote a post long time ago to keep an eye on Tago :-) really talented youngster.. He was down i think 7-12 in the second and was able to turn the match around, and become Japans hero of the day!! wow!!

/Twobeer

Big credit goes to Park Ju-Bong, great doubles player, who has been instrumental since he started as the coach for the Japanes national team! Congratulations to the team and the coach!!!

[hcyong]

Good that we have another rising star from Japan, Tago.....now we have Tan chun Sheang, Andre Kurniawan for future players....how about china? Hope Chen Jin will be around...

Don't worry about China.

[hcyong]

why did susilo lose! and why in the first place was he fielded! when i saw the line-up i was like OMG, and now thanks to this smart line-up singapore will stay in div 2 for the next 4 years and they only have themselves to blame. i don't see how they can ever beat thailand 2 years down the road.:mad:

Ronald was a much safer bet than Kendrick.

[abedeng]

I agree Ronald should not have lost. But Tago is a young man inspired with risk taking, he made so many mistakes and almost had no energy left in the final few points. But this time, Tago's gamble paid off, with help from one very bad line call in 2nd game.

Similarly, I believe SIN should have put up Li Li against Hirose, the matchup will be more even. No complaints for the doubles matches, all were keenly contested but when the score is 2-2 with WD up, the cute girls will always have the last laugh.

[abedeng]

The THA team was badly undone by the loss of their crack XD pair, and now have to go down. Very uncharacteristic of them.

Similarly, the MAS WD pair chose not to show up against DEN, after their MD compatriots blew up against ENG. However, Koo/Tan redeemed themselves with a better display, but I can't help seeing that Tan is slower than usual though Koo is his normal confident self.

Yet both were outshone by the new XD combination. Although not expected to win, they made a great effort and lost only by a whisker. Tan is very talented, but Woon needs more work and hardly challenged Britta at the net. In fact, if you remove the free cheap points out of the equation, MAS XD actually outscored DEN. All they need is composure and some understanding of tactical play.

[Loh]

I was afraid that the young Tago would be fielded as a surprise element as our singles players have not met him before, I believe.

Singapore would have preferred Sato, whose playing style is quite familiar with many. But both Kendrick and Ronald should prevail against Tago. I did not watch the match but I always think that Ronald is too defensive a player and probably Tago took a lot more risks attacking him.

Kendrick would have been a better match for Tago as not only is he younger than Ronald, he is also in good form lately, having scalped Chen Jin in the Singapore Open.

I have stated that our weakness will lie in our women's singles and doubles and if we prevailed in the XD, our chance for victory would have been better. Still I would field the more experienced Li Li, in agreement with Abedeng, and not Xing Aiying, whose form is not as good currently.

But Ronald failed us in what could have been Singapore's finest hour in world badminton - promotion to the top leaque! :(

[hcyong]

Kendrick would have been a better match for Tago as not only is he younger than Ronald, he is also in good form lately, having scalped Chen Jin in the Singapore Open.


However, SIN did not know that Tago is being fielded. If JPN had fielded Sato, and SIN fielded Kendrick and subsequently lost, then the team manager will be scolded. From their match in the Singapore Open, it is clear that Ronald is the superior player, so no matter what, fielding him was the better decision. If SIN were to face JPN again this week, who would you field?

[Loh]

However, SIN did not know that Tago is being fielded. If JPN had fielded Sato, and SIN fielded Kendrick and subsequently lost, then the team manager will be scolded. From their match in the Singapore Open, it is clear that Ronald is the superior player, so no matter what, fielding him was the better decision. If SIN were to face JPN again this week, who would you field?

At the moment, I would rate them about the same. Ronald was able to beat Kendrick in the SO in three games because of his experience and familiarity with Kendrick's game. But at the rate Kendrick is going and with more international exposure with different opponents, he has a very good chance of surpassing Ronald, assuming Kendrick continues to commit to serious training and the will to win. How nice for a change if a local boy can bring honour to his country. :)

[abedeng]

The choice of playing Ronald over Kendrick is correct, I think. He has more big match experience compared to Kendrick, and this is an important point when team managers select players in a critical tie.

It might be overeagerness on Ronald's part that caused his game to suffer after leading quite far behind in the mid part of the 2nd game. Despite his youth, Tago was not using his energy effectively, he was almost spent in the 3rd game but Ronald could not capitalize.

There is this other matter too, of the critical bad line call in the 2nd game, at 18-19. Ronald's smash was clearly in, and with that he would have levelled the score at 19-19 instead of falling back 18-20. TV replay definitely indicated the shuttle went in. In this age of point-per-rally system, I think there is justification for better line judging, with video evidence if necessary, the impact of bad line judgement is too great especially in close games.

[hcyong]

I agree with you. Technology (for line-judging) must be employed at least at Super Series events and BWF events (Thomas, Uber, Sudirman, WC, Olympics).

That said, the line-judging during the Sudirman Cup was generally good.

[jimbo]

I agree with you. Technology (for line-judging) must be employed at least at Super Series events and BWF events (Thomas, Uber, Sudirman, WC, Olympics).

Absolutely agree. If ATP/Tennis and US football (not soccer) could deploy the technology, why not badminton? I guess the $$$/sponsorship is still the bottom line as far as the game is concerned. sad but true :o

If I'm not mistaken, the technology was invested by IBM.

[pjswift]

I agree with you. Technology (for line-judging) must be employed at least at Super Series events and BWF events (Thomas, Uber, Sudirman, WC, Olympics).

That said, the line-judging during the Sudirman Cup was generally good.
Agree. The line judges had done a superb job although there were some poor calls. However, those poor calls were tough ;of the skimming shots type.It's not like the HKO06 type where the line judges had the time to see the shuttle landing and the bad calls looked rather intentional.
The umpires were less impressive.

[huangkwokhau]

Agree. The line judges had done a superb job although there were some poor calls. However, those poor calls were tough ;of the skimming shots type.It's not like the HKO06 type where the line judges had the time to see the shuttle landing and the bad calls looked rather intentional.
The umpires were less impressive.

Also in Indo newspapers reported that TH again insisted to use Replay...
The incident happened when TH against Park ( Kor) when TH was leading 6-4..when TH smashed and was IN....the scoreboard showed from 8-4 to 9-4.
Park protested and asked TH if it was supposed to be 7-4..TH nodded but Umpire did not react and Park was upset and complained...he got Yellow card instead.....Poor Park!!!

It is about time as sometimes it is tough as the shuttle lands on the court so fast and so close...how you are 100% sure if it is out or in....

I agree that they should use Replay , at least at Super series...;)