View Full Version : 2007 Sudirman Cup - Day 7 - Sunday - FINALS
China vs. Indonesia.
i say 60% China 40% Indonesia, 3-2 (depending on the order of play)
tommy_bun
06-16-2007, 03:55 PM
Good thing that INA can field Candra/Kido tomorrow....
I think for XD, they should pair Polii/Rizal instead of Nova/Butet
Im scared that China will take it 3-0 from MX,MS,and WS,then u cant see candra/kido again:p:p
mybdmworld
06-16-2007, 03:57 PM
INA: 4 hrs and 40 minutes in 5 matches against Eng
CHN: 2 hrs 45 minutes in 3 matches against KOR....
Good thing that INA can field Candra/Kido tomorrow....
I think for XD, they should pair Polii/Rizal instead of Nova/Butet
I prefer Limpele/Marissa to play against CHN XD tomorrow...
I hope INA's manager will have a brilliant decision for the final....
Keep going and winning the Cup now..Indonesia... bringing to back home that title.....
nugroho
06-16-2007, 04:00 PM
China vs. Indonesia.
i say 60% China 40% Indonesia, 3-2 (depending on the order of play)
yeah.. about tomorow will be really scary for INA... as i might turn up 3-0 for CHN just like last time
:crying:
huangkwokhau
06-16-2007, 04:01 PM
Prediction? china will win but I hope we can steal 2 matches....dont put high hope tomorrow...as long as they play..thats enough for me....
badMania
06-16-2007, 04:04 PM
My strategy against Team China tomorrow:
XD: Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling -- if INA loses this, then we can kiss the Cup goodbye. So, I think the coach is likely to field Flandy/Vita since they have yet to play against Zheng/Gao. Fielding Nova/Butet will be risky. Also, Flandy will be fresh and Vita also only played straight sets today. This will allow Butet more time to recover.
MS: Taufik Hidayat vs Lin Dan -- an absolute cracker...and IF Flandy/Vita manages to steal a point, Taufik will be even more motivated to win.
WS: anyone vs anyone -- basically who cares...its a give-away point!
MD: Candra Wijaya/Markis Kido vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun -- they have proven themselves today, so, its likely that Candra/Kido will yet be fielded again. The match experience today will also be crucial.
WD: Greysia Polii/Lilyana Natsir vs Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen -- well...CHINA might choose to play this one before the last match (like today), so, safe to say that CHINA will win the cup if the scores are 2-1 or 2-2.
Well, CHINA will definitely win the Sudirman Cup again. But, INA can surprise if we play the cards right :cool:
whbwlc
06-16-2007, 04:07 PM
at most 10% for Indonesia, TH possibly can get 1 point. 3-1 or 3-0, China win.
keanny
06-16-2007, 04:09 PM
10% for INA is too rude!!-.-zzz.. well although i cant hope too much for this.. but i still want INA to win lol.. anyway, we did great today.. and for tomorrow.. just play our best =) 'our' means INA in this case hihi
staples
06-16-2007, 04:10 PM
China vs. Indonesia.
i say 60% China 40% Indonesia, 3-2 (depending on the order of play)
88-12% in favour of China.
50% for Taufik to win, 60% for Candra/Kido, 40% for Widianto/Natsir.
How is Chen jin's record against Taufik? China might even field Chen instead of Lin.
If Indonesia is to win the only possible score is 3-2. If they lose the opening XD then it's all over.
blackrose
06-16-2007, 04:11 PM
CHINA 3 vs INDONESIA 1
I think China still can be a champion this time. China will sure put point from MXD (Zheng Bo), LS (Zhang Ning @ Xie Xingfang) and LD (Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting) or MD (Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun).
Indonesia may be take point from Taufik Hidayat for MS according current performance.
Not more five matches......:D
irian
06-16-2007, 04:12 PM
I think, china will let BCL plays against TH tommorow,because BCL had won last time in Indo-Open.
huangkwokhau
06-16-2007, 04:12 PM
tough for INA...well...just hoping for the best...I have no expectation for INA....but you will never know....the odds are in China's favour...
zeddie
06-16-2007, 04:14 PM
i hope not.. would love to see a ld / th game!
Darth Andrianus
06-16-2007, 04:14 PM
Yeah, I agree with most of the comments here. Like two years ago, the only way for INA to win is to win the XD, MS and MD. However, this is very unlikely. For these three matches, they are 55% to China. Nevertheless, I look forward to seeing Taufik play Lin Dan again tomorrow on Sky Sports Extra. Whenever those two clash, all other world-class players look like absolute beginners.
badMania
06-16-2007, 04:25 PM
Now, I am not sure LYB wanna even field the not in form Lin Dan tomorrow. Bao Chunlai or Chen Jin can be fielded and they can afford to lose that point :cool:
mybdmworld
06-16-2007, 04:33 PM
CHINA 3 vs INDONESIA 1
I think China still can be a champion this time. China will sure put point from MXD (Zheng Bo), LS (Zhang Ning @ Xie Xingfang) and LD (Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting) or MD (Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun).
Indonesia may be take point from Taufik Hidayat for MS according current performance.
Not more five matches......:D
The message title and explanation do not agree...
Now, I am not sure LYB wanna even field the not in form Lin Dan tomorrow. Bao Chunlai or Chen Jin can be fielded and they can afford to lose that point :cool:
OMG I do not agree, if Bao Chu Lai fielded I cant choose the winner TH is MY Country player but Bao is my favourite player :D
aniway for tomorrow, which team that can get 1st point, that team will be the winner, 3-2 for INA or 3-1 for China, if order of play like today (MXD-WS-MS-WD-MD)
staples
06-16-2007, 04:35 PM
Yeah, I agree with most of the comments here. Like two years ago, the only way for INA to win is to win the XD, MS and MD. However, this is very unlikely. For these three matches, they are 55% to China. Nevertheless, I look forward to seeing Taufik play Lin Dan again tomorrow on Sky Sports Extra. Whenever those two clash, all other world-class players look like absolute beginners.
How is the lineup submission done? Does INA submit it first and then China gets to see who they can field? Or is it a double blind submission?
mybdmworld
06-16-2007, 04:36 PM
After watching the semifinal today, I will also say the same with you guys...
It seems to be difficult for INA to beat CHN this time..., CHN team are in their top form... but impossible is nothing (as addidas adv)...
If INA could win tomorrow... the badminton history would be a bit interesting of course...
badMania
06-16-2007, 04:39 PM
After watching the semifinal today, I will also say the same with you guys...
It seems to be difficult for INA to beat CHN this time..., CHN team are in their top form... but impossible is nothing (as addidas adv)...
If INA could win tomorrow... the badminton history would be a bit interesting of course...
Indeed, most if not ALL realistic INA fans like me DO NOT HARBOUR any hope of winning the elusive Cup. Getting to the Final itself is already considered a job well done as INA was drawn in the so-called Group of Death for the group stages. Not to mention INA has to endure trailing ENG 0-2 just now. So, there's nothing to lose for the players, except to just enjoy the matches and play their best.
Darth Andrianus
06-16-2007, 04:42 PM
How is the lineup submission done? Does INA submit it first and then China gets to see who they can field? Or is it a double blind submission?
My understanding is that the organisers will decide the schedule and the opposing teams will not know about the opposite field until the match itself. So TH could potentially go on court and think to himself: "Is it me or does this guy look nothing like Lin Dan?"
badMania
06-16-2007, 04:49 PM
Hmm...the lineup is out:
INA vs CHINA
XD: Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling -- expected...tough to predict, but Zheng/Gao hold the edge.
MD: Candra Wijaya/Markis Kido vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun -- surprise, surprise, the MD is next. I hope the INA pair can win....because of the surprise element.
WS: Adriyanti Firdasari vs Zhang Ning -- a no brainer....unless there's a major miracle.
WD: Greysia Polii/Vita Marissa vs Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting -- the key match if scores are 2-1 to China. Team China can basically win the Cup.
MS: Taufik Hidayat vs Lin Dan -- might not be played after all...but...if scores are split 2-2 at this stage, this will be the mother of all matches...and Taufik has the slight slight edge at the moment due to his good form in the Sudirman Cup.
Verdict: CHINA to win 3-1 or INA to win 3-2.
mybdmworld
06-16-2007, 04:51 PM
My understanding is that the organisers will decide the schedule and the opposing teams will not know about the opposite field until the match itself. So TH could potentially go on court and think to himself: "Is it me or does this guy look nothing like Lin Dan?"
But still I am quite sure that TH will play against LD...., again we will see the meeting of these two great men in badm...
armortecfans
06-16-2007, 04:54 PM
Hallo, I am new here.
It was a great semifinal match between Indonesia and England. England has done their best to fight against Indonesia and they could even win it actually. But, Indonesia has proved that they are good in a team tournament.
Indonesia has reached their minimum target to enter the final, like they did two years ago in Beijing. They final the fancy team, China again.
Everyone knows how superior China is nowadays. I fully agree with this. China will definitely retain the Sudirman Cup. However, I do hope that Indonesia will fight and show the best performance as they can, so the match will be interesting to see.
China will get 2 points from WS and WD (This is almost sure). China only needs 1 more point from the rest (MS, MD or XD). I hope Indonesia can steal at least 1 point.
I am not pessimistic, but this is realistic, I guess.
If Indonesia wins, it will be a great achievement and probably a history.
So, for China and Indonesia, please give us entertaining matches to see.
Smichz
06-16-2007, 05:09 PM
F.limpele/Marissa for XD 40-60
Kido/Chandra.W for MD 55-45
T.H for MS 60-40
G.poly/Marissa WD 45-55
Firdasari WS 10-90(ZN is the killer!)
China will probably win,but not easily..
I really hope that indo can take back their trophy n break china's domination..brings more colour to badminton world!
Darth Andrianus
06-16-2007, 05:11 PM
Hmm...the lineup is out:
INA vs CHINA
XD: Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling -- expected...tough to predict, but Zheng/Gao hold the edge.
MD: Candra Wijaya/Markis Kido vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun -- surprise, surprise, the MD is next. I hope the INA pair can win....because of the surprise element.
WS: Adriyanti Firdasari vs Zhang Ning -- a no brainer....unless there's a major miracle.
WD: Greysia Polii/Vita Marissa vs Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting -- the key match if scores are 2-1 to China. Team China can basically win the Cup.
MS: Taufik Hidayat vs Lin Dan -- might not be played after all...but...if scores are split 2-2 at this stage, this will be the mother of all matches...and Taufik has the slight slight edge at the moment due to his good form in the Sudirman Cup.
Verdict: CHINA to win 3-1 or INA to win 3-2.
Oh well, I hate to be pessimistic, but if the above is indeed the schedule, the MS match will not happen at all to the relief of both players. Like it or not, no matter how casual TH is, he will be nervous in having to face LD and no matter how confident LD is, he will feel the pressure so great in facing such a talented player he might freak out. I have to agree though, if it comes to this match, it will be one hell of a match.
armortecfans
06-16-2007, 05:15 PM
What an interesting play of order for the final:eek::D
XD - MD - WS - WD - MS
XD : Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
A tough match for the Indonesian pair. Indonesia has to win this match in order to keep the team alive. I really hope that Flandy/Vita can handle the pressure and give their best as they can. Zheng/Gao is really a great pair. I saw them playing against Han Sang-hon/Lee Hyo-jung in semifinal. Not to mention that they are currently number one in the Super series ranking.
MD : Candra Wijaya/Markis Kido vs Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
I think Cai/Fu is in their form in this Sudirman Cup. They have beaten Koo/Tan in 2 sets in a rather easy match. But, I was completely surprised with the Indonesian scratch pair. Candra/Kido has proven that they are a good combination when playing Blair/Clark. But, tomorrow the opponent is tougher, world champion 2006! So, this will be interesting to see. Again, Candra/Kido has to win in order to keep the chance to win the cup. If they can play like they beated Blair/Clark or even better, there is a bigger chance to win. I hope Candra's experience can help.
WS : Adriyanti Firdasari vs Zhang Ning
Not too much I can say. Zhang Ning is completely much better. I only hope that Firda will give her best and use this as a great experience to face Zhang Ning. I think miracle is unlikely to happen here.
WD : Greysia Polii/Vita Marissa vs Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting
This match basically belongs to China. Last time, they beat Greysia/Vita in Indonesia Super Series in 3 sets. I hope the Indonesian will fight all the way to give the best fight. However, I really like this Indonesian pair, they are more aggresive. Too bad, they will be separated, as Greysia will be back with her previous partner, Jo Novita.
MS : Taufik Hidayat vs Lin Dan
Lin Dan is really a golden boy for Li Yongbo. I was a bit disappointed when I watched Lin Dan played against Shon Seung-mo. He did not show his best form yet. If this match is going to happen tomorrow (score 2-2 between China and Indonesia), Taufik has a great chance to win and help Indonesia bring the cup back after 18 years. I really want to see this match, as a battle between Taufik and Lin Dan is always worth to see. I don't know why MS is the last match.
DinkAlot
06-16-2007, 05:30 PM
My guess, 3-0, China. :p
Darth Andrianus
06-16-2007, 05:31 PM
Talking about LD vs TH, I am very sorry if I am off track. Maybe I should put this on another thread altogether, but according to the BBC website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/badminton/6760603.stm), LD argued with LYB in the middle of his match. :eek: Shocking! Has anyone read any article on other websites about this? What happened? It's a one thing to hear about TH arguing with PBSI, but LD arguing with his coach? This is a scandal. The article even says LD might be replaced. I am very intrigued...
mybdmworld
06-16-2007, 05:31 PM
What an interesting play of order for the final:eek::D
XD - MD - WS - WD - MS
XD : Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
A tough match for the Indonesian pair. Indonesia has to win this match in order to keep the team alive. I really hope that Flandy/Vita can handle the pressure and give their best as they can. Zheng/Gao is really a great pair. I saw them playing against Han Sang-hon/Lee Hyo-jung in semifinal. Not to mention that they are currently number one in the Super series ranking.
MD : Candra Wijaya/Markis Kido vs Cai Yun/Fu Haifeng
I think Cai/Fu is in their form in this Sudirman Cup. They have beaten Koo/Tan in 2 sets in a rather easy match. But, I was completely surprised with the Indonesian scratch pair. Candra/Kido has proven that they are a good combination when playing Blair/Clark. But, tomorrow the opponent is tougher, world champion 2006! So, this will be interesting to see. Again, Candra/Kido has to win in order to keep the chance to win the cup. If they can play like they beated Blair/Clark or even better, there is a bigger chance to win. I hope Candra's experience can help.
WS : Adriyanti Firdasari vs Zhang Ning
Not too much I can say. Zhang Ning is completely much better. I only hope that Firda will give her best and use this as a great experience to face Zhang Ning. I think miracle is unlikely to happen here.
WD : Greysia Polii/Vita Marissa vs Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting
This match basically belongs to China. Last time, they beat Greysia/Vita in Indonesia Super Series in 3 sets. I hope the Indonesian will fight all the way to give the best fight. However, I really like this Indonesian pair, they are more aggresive. Too bad, they will be separated, as Greysia will be back with her previous partner, Jo Novita.
MS : Taufik Hidayat vs Lin Dan
Lin Dan is really a golden boy for Li Yongbo. I was a bit disappointed when I watched Lin Dan played against Shon Seung-mo. He did not show his best form yet. If this match is going to happen tomorrow (score 2-2 between China and Indonesia), Taufik has a great chance to win and help Indonesia bring the cup back after 18 years. I really want to see this match, as a battle between Taufik and Lin Dan is always worth to see. I don't know why MS is the last match.
Good comments, my friend
May God bless INA team tomorrow...
INA really needs a miracle to make score 2-2 before MS...
but again impossible is nothing....
maa2003
06-16-2007, 05:32 PM
After watching the semifinal today, I will also say the same with you guys...
It seems to be difficult for INA to beat CHN this time..., CHN team are in their top form... but impossible is nothing (as addidas adv)...
If INA could win tomorrow... the badminton history would be a bit interesting of course...
agree ....... CHN is simply too good and powerful in all.
... but hope this time INA can win Sudirman Cup.
quoted from one popular song in Indonesia nowadays :
".....And when you keep on believing
Thousand miles can be seized by running
The Miracles can do things, Though can't do"
2cents
06-16-2007, 05:33 PM
So many people gave their predictions on percentage. But none of the number makes any sense except "staples"s
It doesn't make sense not because of the assumption, but because of the logic.
At last Sudirman cup, China swept Indonesia twice by 8:0. If only this data are used, China should win 100%.
Anyway, here is mine:
1) XD: ZB/GL - LF/VM 70:30
2) MD: CY/FH - KM/CW 70:30
3) WS ZN - AF 100-0
4) WD YW/ZT - GP/VM 100-0
5) MS LD - TH 60-40
So,
China - Ina: 3-0 Chance: 49%
China - Ina: 3-1 Chance: 42%
China - Ina: 3-2 Chance: 5.4%
China - Ina: 2-3 Chance: 3.6%
Total:
China (win% 96.4% ) - Ina ( 3.6% )
Most likely, China will take it either 3:0 (49% chance) or 3:1 (42%)
that's it.
Hallo, I am new here.
It was a great semifinal match between Indonesia and England. England has done their best to fight against Indonesia and they could even win it actually. But, Indonesia has proved that they are good in a team tournament.
Indonesia has reached their minimum target to enter the final, like they did two years ago in Beijing. They final the fancy team, China again.
Everyone knows how superior China is nowadays. I fully agree with this. China will definitely retain the Sudirman Cup. However, I do hope that Indonesia will fight and show the best performance as they can, so the match will be interesting to see.
China will get 2 points from WS and WD (This is almost sure). China only needs 1 more point from the rest (MS, MD or XD). I hope Indonesia can steal at least 1 point.
I am not pessimistic, but this is realistic, I guess.
If Indonesia wins, it will be a great achievement and probably a history.
So, for China and Indonesia, please give us entertaining matches to see.
welcome to BC!
and a nice post to begin with also. i agree with you, it is more likely for CHN to win than for INA to win, but i think INA have a fighting chance. the chance unfortunately will have to come from MS / MD / XD only. Taufik has to do his job, so does Candra / Kido (i don't believe they can field anybody else given how well Candra / Kido played today), and Nova/Lilyana.
but unfortunately, the weakest link of the 3 is XD, which will likely come first in the tie. this will be totally crucial as losing the XD for either team will likely lead to losing the Sudirman Cup.
well, in less than 24hrs, we will see who will come out first. may the better team win!
huangkwokhau
06-16-2007, 06:05 PM
So many people gave their predictions on percentage. But none of the number makes any sense except "staples"s
It doesn't make sense not because of the assumption, but because of the logic.
At last Sudirman cup, China swept Indonesia twice by 8:0. If only this data are used, China should win 100%.
Anyway, here is mine:
1) XD: ZB/GL - LF/VM 70:30
2) MD: CY/FH - KM/CW 70:30
3) WS ZN - AF 100-0
4) WD YW/ZT - GP/VM 100-0
5) MS LD - TH 60-40
So,
China - Ina: 3-0 Chance: 49%
China - Ina: 3-1 Chance: 42%
China - Ina: 3-2 Chance: 5.4%
China - Ina: 2-3 Chance: 3.6%
Total:
China (win% 96.4% ) - Ina ( 3.6% )
Most likely, China will take it either 3:0 (49% chance) or 3:1 (42%)
that's it.
Your percentage does not make sense at all....I agree that Chn will win more likely but your percentage is not logical at all..sorry to say that ..no offence!!
Smichz
06-16-2007, 06:18 PM
Talking about LD vs TH, I am very sorry if I am off track. Maybe I should put this on another thread altogether, but according to the BBC website (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/badminton/6760603.stm), LD argued with LYB in the middle of his match. :eek: Shocking! Has anyone read any article on other websites about this? What happened? It's a one thing to hear about TH arguing with PBSI, but LD arguing with his coach? This is a scandal. The article even says LD might be replaced. I am very intrigued...
LYB is famous for his solid character,critics though.So,maybe LD is so fed up,just wanna play in his own form,and ask LYB to shut the hell up.:D
Smichz
06-16-2007, 06:20 PM
If LD is replaced..then MS will be 90-10 taken by TH.No one in CH MS player is really a match for TH except LD.So,that issue is rather impossible.CH wont take the risk.
freelast
06-16-2007, 06:56 PM
Order Event China[CHN] - [INA] Indonesia Score Points Duration Court
1 XD Bo Zheng, Ling Gao [CHN] - [INA] Limpele Flandy Vita Marissa
Why use Limpele and Vita who plays WD also, simply because the 1st XD cannot win. So I will view it as an exit strategy, just finding an excuse to lose. Although Limpele/Vita won Singapore, but lost so many to all kinds of people, they could not win even a 2 star tournaments like big boss.
Look at Zheng Bo/Gao Ling, they are invincible, almost. There is simply no way for them to lose to Limpele and Vita, there is a huge distance in between. 100% ZB/GL will win.
2 MD Yun Cai Haifeng Fu [CHN] - [INA] Kido Markis, Candra Wijaya
the same exit strategy for Indonesia. a scratch pair to fight the best men's double in top form. How desperate it is! 100% Cai/Fu win
3 WS Ning Zhang [CHN] - [INA] Adriyanti Firdasari
Indonesia WS has never won yet! Neither has Adriyanti Firdasari. While Zhang Ning and her company have never lose even a single game. 100%
4 WD Wei Yang, Tinting Zhao [CHN] - [INA] Greysia Polii ,Vita Marissa
No chance for them to play
5 MS Dan Lin [CHN] - [INA] Taufik Hidayat
Just dressed up and participating the closing ceremony.
Just take one more look at China and Indonesia Sudirmap cup teams, China teams are made of all world number 1s, and/or invincibles, while Indonesia teams are either consistent losers or scratch pairs, there is just no comparison.
3:0 China wins.
freelast
06-16-2007, 07:09 PM
I would like compare Lin Dan and Taufik a little bit.
Like most people said, Lin Dan now is in a shocking bad form, while Taufik is in top form. Both of them have played Andrew Smith, so we can compare Lin dan in bad form with Taufik in top form:
Both Lindan and Taufik won 2:0 against Smith, but Lindan lost 30 points while Taufik lost 35 points, which indicates Lindan is still better than Taufik right now.
So to make the match competitive, we have to pray that Lindan in bad form while Taufik in top form. But unfortunately, their teammates will not give those two guys any chance to play.
freelast
06-16-2007, 07:19 PM
Best in best now in my view:
1) Zheng Bo/Gao Ling have won so many titles, they are definitely the best even among all events.
2) Cai/Fu, these two guys are awesome. They just overtake the control from KKK/TBH
3) Lee CW, He is the best in men's singles for sure. He should be able to beat any one in the world now, but unfortunately there is no tournaments for him to grab
4) No candidate yet. Except the above three, I cannot see anyone else is currently hot. KKK/TBH aren't. Xie XF isn't. Zhang Ning isn't. Lin Dan isn't. Taufik isn't, even lost to Bao CL at home. Gao Ling/Huang Sui look like finished. Yao Wei/Zhao Tingting should not be as good as YW/ZJW. Wei Y/ZYW have never been the best...
bobace
06-16-2007, 07:51 PM
Final INA vs CHINA:
XD: Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling Crucial match for IND but CHN has the edge with Great Gao. 47:53
MD: Candra Wijaya/Markis Kido vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun -- I do not agree with most of you that Wijaya can do it again. Cai/Fu is in great form and the confidence is high since they have beaten Wijaya/Gunawan at least twice this year. 45:55
WS: Adriyanti Firdasari vs Zhang Ning -- No miracle. 20-80
WD: Greysia Polii/Vita Marissa vs Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting -- Secured winner for CHN. 30-70
MS: Taufik Hidayat vs Lin Dan -- It really come to this far, I worry about the current form of LD. Slight advantage of Taufik because of his relaxing attitude. 53:47.
Verdict: CHINA to win 3-0 or 3-1 or INA to win 3-2
whbwlc
06-16-2007, 07:58 PM
Best in best now in my view:
1) Zheng Bo/Gao Ling have won so many titles, they are definitely the best even among all events.
2) Cai/Fu, these two guys are awesome. They just overtake the control from KKK/TBH
3) Lee CW, He is the best in men's singles for sure. He should be able to beat any one in the world now, but unfortunately there is no tournaments for him to grab
4) No candidate yet. Except the above three, I cannot see anyone else is currently hot. KKK/TBH aren't. Xie XF isn't. Zhang Ning isn't. Lin Dan isn't. Taufik isn't, even lost to Bao CL at home. Gao Ling/Huang Sui look like finished. Yao Wei/Zhao Tingting should not be as good as YW/ZJW. Wei Y/ZYW have never been the best...
totally agree. CY/FHF surprise me recently. They gave up their former attacking strategy (only creating chance for FHF's hammer). Someone said it was like XD. Now they improved their defence and both of them can attack, plus they regain the confidence since SO. So at this moment, they are unrivaled.
Now, I am not sure LYB wanna even field the not in form Lin Dan tomorrow. Bao Chunlai or Chen Jin can be fielded and they can afford to lose that point :cool:
Ii or out of form, Li Yongbo has sticked with Lin Dan for the whole duration so he's not going to change now. Sit tight and enjoy the clash.
If LD is replaced..then MS will be 90-10 taken by TH.No one in CH MS player is really a match for TH except LD.So,that issue is rather impossible.CH wont take the risk.
Don't go by feeling, Bao Chunlai just beat Taufik in his own backyard less than a month ago. Any of the big 3 from China(Lin Dan, Chen Jin, Bao Chunlai) has 50-50 chance to beat Taufik. Taufik is playing better but he's not at his best either. However, I don't see why Li Yongbo want to change his lineup unless he wanted to punish Lin Dan for lack luster performance so far.
anfan2000
06-16-2007, 08:49 PM
China beat Indo : 3-0 on XD,MD and WS. however, I really appreciate Taufik (55% for victory).but....:-(
robin7
06-16-2007, 09:01 PM
No doubt that CHN will win. My prediction is 3-1.
INA can still a point from its MS or XD.
China might field BCL against TH in MS.
XtC-604
06-16-2007, 09:06 PM
1% chance that aliens invade and stop the tournament, 2% that INA will win, and 2% chance that terrorists invade and kill everyone and finally 95% chance that CHN will win =p
hcyong
06-16-2007, 09:26 PM
Your percentage does not make sense at all....I agree that Chn will win more likely but your percentage is not logical at all..sorry to say that ..no offence!!
Why doesn't it make sense? You mean the percentage for the overall result? Or the percentage for each match?
dunker
06-16-2007, 09:30 PM
1% chance that aliens invade and stop the tournament, 2% that INA will win, and 2% chance that terrorists invade and kill everyone and finally 95% chance that CHN will win =p
:D:D:D THats so funny dude...:p
zqloy
06-16-2007, 09:38 PM
Best in best now in my view:
3) Lee CW, He is the best in men's singles for sure. He should be able to beat any one in the world now, but unfortunately there is no tournaments for him to grab
Maybe thats why Denmark keep PG and field KJ instead that day. Perhaps a little stunned by the in-form LCW? :D
jasonmarc
06-16-2007, 09:41 PM
With MS is going to play as last match, i think CHN will win with 3 : 0 over INA..anyway, i hope INA could take 1 point from XD...as Flandy/Vita will play...but CHN still will win by 3 : 1, TH and LD dont have to play in the final....dont even have to warm up....
hcyong
06-16-2007, 09:42 PM
My optimistic view for INA is that they win XD, MD and MS. If both XD pairs play like they did in Singapore SS, then Flandy/Vita will have a high chance. Furthermore, Flandy/Vita has only played once in this tournament, while Zheng/Gao has been involved in all CHN ties. Whether this is advantageous or not, I am not sure, but the best strategy against CHN is to throw dices. Flandy/Vita is a good throw of the dice.
Candra/Markis is an even better throw of the dice. No established pairing in the world can beat Cai/Fu at the moment. So, throw in the element of the unknown.
And finally, you never know between Taufik and Lin Dan.
INA has a very slight chance in WD and almost no chance in WS.
Prediction: CHN 3-0
keanny
06-16-2007, 09:54 PM
i love being an underdog =P it's always fun lol
Joe P
06-16-2007, 09:59 PM
Wow, talk about disappointing. Scheduling the MS match last is stupid, as we all know (realistically) that it probably won't get that far.
I sooo want Indonesia to win, and although my heart says yes, my head doesn't think they will (but they definitely can). Still, if they do lose, I hope they will go down fighting to the end. Then at least I won't feel so bad.
Good Luck Indonesia! Pantang mundur!
Joe P.
gary_seeker
06-16-2007, 10:00 PM
well, I can say for the MD match, INA will won. Why ? Because China specialty is to find out other pairs style of play and weakness. When Cai/Fu play in SO and IO, they already know most of their opponent strategy. While Kid/Wijaya ? Do you think one day is enough for them to find out their style of play then find out their weakness ? Don't think that's enough. It takes 3 loss from KKK/TBH for Cai/Fu to win the next match and study their tactic. While, Kido/Wijaya ? hum Candra has a lot of experiences more than anyone on the field of MD tomorrow so he's going to be the key player. If INA do their homework and Candra can play as usual. I can predict INA win over China.
For XD, to be honest I'm really pessimistic but WD can give some hope more than XD. One match that I'll be waiting is when INA and CHN was 2-2. Then LD and TH. That's the match that everybody waiting for. Full power of those 2 players. Don't all of you guys want to watch the final match ?
Joe P
06-16-2007, 10:00 PM
i love being an underdog =P it's always fun lol
True that... Should be somewhat relieving for the players too; here's hoping! :D
Joe P.
keanny
06-16-2007, 10:05 PM
i am hoping.. believing.. and praying right now! lol .. haha.. so lookin forward for the match!!
indra
06-16-2007, 10:08 PM
I am perhaps the only one in the BC who is very optimistic that Ina will win over China....
The facts are:
Taufik is very confident and in good form...while LD has been "sharply" declining....Bao CL and Chen Jin, in my opinion, will not be strong enough to face the confident Taufik this time...Bao is not mentally strong under pressure in a group match like this..Fielding Chen Jin in an event like the Final Sudirman against the bad boy TH is like committing a suicide for China...
1 - 0 for Indonesia
Next....MXD...Flandy and Vita vs Zheng Bo / Gao Ling.....To be honest...The Chinese pairing is actually not too strong...In my opinion Flandy/Vita are better than Nova/Butet mentally. technically they are equal.
Flandy/Marisaa have been very consistent. In the semifinal against Korea, this Chinese pairing almost lost....Flandy/Marissa should win....
2 - 0 for Indonesia
Next is MS...Chandra/Kido vs Fu/Cai....Fu/Cai have abad habit of losing to a new pairing...Remember how they easily lost to Kido/Hendra when Kido/hendra were only new kids on the block, remember again how Fu/Cai was easily demolished by the then new rising KKK/TBH....It is a "surprise effect" that has defeated the No. 1 MD....Chandra/Kido is a very good combination to make the Chinese"knee down".
so 3 - 0 for Ina
All women sectors go to China....No doubt!
keanny
06-16-2007, 10:13 PM
i am so hoping that ur analysis and prediction will come true! lol.. i cant say anything much bout such things coz i only know a little bout every single player's skills and experience lol.. but yeah, again, i always love to be an underdog.. in a way that this might actually bring a surprising performance tomorrow for the INAs.. *crossing fingers*
abedeng
06-16-2007, 10:23 PM
Excellent performance by Candra/Markis yesterday, indeed the decision to play Candra saved Indonesia yesterday.
However, MS and MD must come into play again in order for INA to have hope to win the title.
Also, the XD pair must snatch a point for INA, Gao Ling/Zheng Bo aren't invincible. Putting Flandy/Vita might just do the trick, then again yesterday,
Krisna
06-16-2007, 10:24 PM
QUESTION to anyone who knows:
Will there be any Sudirman Cup Final TV showings in INA? RCTI or CCTV in cable or something? 10pm [Jakarta time] today, right?
Krisna
06-16-2007, 10:27 PM
Also, the XD pair must snatch a point for INA, Gao Ling/Zheng Bo aren't invincible. Putting Flandy/Vita might just do the trick, then again yesterday,
Gao Ling - Zheng Bo are not invincible, but they do win over 95% of the time... :p
keanny
06-16-2007, 10:27 PM
wait.. i thought the final would be at 1pm local time.. then it means 8am EST (USA), then it means 8pm beijing time.. and thus 7pm WIB? cctv will definitely showing the game right? dunno bout indo's..
keanny
06-16-2007, 10:28 PM
im just wondering.. can indo actually steal a point from WD? lol
pjswift
06-16-2007, 10:28 PM
Oh well, I hate to be pessimistic, but if the above is indeed the schedule, the MS match will not happen at all to the relief of both players. Like it or not, no matter how casual TH is, he will be nervous in having to face LD and no matter how confident LD is, he will feel the pressure so great in facing such a talented player he might freak out. I have to agree though, if it comes to this match, it will be one hell of a match.
The scheduling is a joke. It's like trying to cheat badminton fans of what they have been waiting for.Anyway who knows INA may take the first two cos CHN XD has been stretched more and more with each subsequent match and CHN MD has no video homework done and relevant intense practice on the scratch INA MD.
If the MS plays, TH will thrash LD. LD has lost his champion mode and the 'little boy' mode will surface.As long as TH is fresh, he can last an hour, otherwise it's 43 mins. Anyway AS did a perfect job of freshening him up nicely.
hcyong
06-16-2007, 10:42 PM
When the team managers submit their lineup, they also submit their preferred match order. The tournament referee (or whoever is in charge) will then decide the final match order. I don't know how he will decide but my guess is that if both teams want the MS to be the last match, then the referee has no choice.
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-16-2007, 10:52 PM
i seriously dun see much chance of seeing the LD/TH match..the result will probably be concluded by den..is this to make up to FHF/Cy who did get to play yesterday?....=(
cao ci dan
06-16-2007, 10:54 PM
4 WD Wei Yang, Tinting Zhao [CHN] - [INA] Greysia Polii ,Vita Marissa
No chance for them to play
5 MS Dan Lin [CHN] - [INA] Taufik Hidayat
Just dressed up and participating the closing ceremony.
3:0 China wins.
:) Agree! :( They should start off with MS...but I don't think LD will beat TH based on his current performance!
shyeling
06-16-2007, 10:56 PM
I am perhaps the only one in the BC who is very optimistic that Ina will win over China....
The facts are:
Taufik is very confident and in good form...while LD has been "sharply" declining....Bao CL and Chen Jin, in my opinion, will not be strong enough to face the confident Taufik this time...Bao is not mentally strong under pressure in a group match like this..Fielding Chen Jin in an event like the Final Sudirman against the bad boy TH is like committing a suicide for China...
1 - 0 for Indonesia
Next....MXD...Flandy and Vita vs Zheng Bo / Gao Ling.....To be honest...The Chinese pairing is actually not too strong...In my opinion Flandy/Vita are better than Nova/Butet mentally. technically they are equal.
Flandy/Marisaa have been very consistent. In the semifinal against Korea, this Chinese pairing almost lost....Flandy/Marissa should win....
2 - 0 for Indonesia
Next is MS...Chandra/Kido vs Fu/Cai....Fu/Cai have abad habit of losing to a new pairing...Remember how they easily lost to Kido/Hendra when Kido/hendra were only new kids on the block, remember again how Fu/Cai was easily demolished by the then new rising KKK/TBH....It is a "surprise effect" that has defeated the No. 1 MD....Chandra/Kido is a very good combination to make the Chinese"knee down".
so 3 - 0 for Ina
All women sectors go to China....No doubt!
may b wat u say is true.. but the order of playing is XD-MD-WS-WD-MS..
so may b there got no chance for taufik to play with lin dan..
Joe P
06-16-2007, 10:57 PM
When the team managers submit their lineup, they also submit their preferred match order. The tournament referee (or whoever is in charge) will then decide the final match order. I don't know how he will decide but my guess is that if both teams want the MS to be the last match, then the referee has no choice.
Hmm, hard for me to imagine why the Indonesian team would want the MS to be the last, coz it might be all over by then.
Maybe they're trying to to use that as a message to their other players? i.e. not to rely just on Taufik, but to take responsibility and try harder to win their own games? Dunno, just maybe.
Joe P.
1% chance that aliens invade and stop the tournament, 2% that INA will win, and 2% chance that terrorists invade and kill everyone and finally 95% chance that CHN will win =p
INA can win this cup :I BELIEVE:
IF
they can get 1st point,
wait.. i thought the final would be at 1pm local time.. then it means 8am EST (USA), then it means 8pm beijing time.. and thus 7pm WIB? cctv will definitely showing the game right? dunno bout indo's..
beijing 8pm, jakarta 8pm also
about LYB fielding LD, Chinese media has reported LYB saying that he won't reject the possibility of using another player. he said BCL and CJ are both capable of playing the MS position. the final decision we will find out in a few hours.
LYB said he was disappointed with LD's performance so far, he said in order to win the trust of the team, a player need to demonstrate both his technical abilities and fighting spirit on court, and LD has failed in both. however, he did say LD has been improving as the tournament progressed.
oh, and this shows the rare humble side of LYB, in addition, he mentioned:
"Lin Dan need to be completely refreshed, i hope the media and fans will work together with us, help Lin Dan along, don't praise him too much. I prefer the old Lin Dan, the Lin Dan that was filled with confidence, filled with killer's instinct. I hope he will return to his former self."
oh, and this shows the rare humble side of LYB, in addition, he mentioned:
"Lin Dan need to be completely refreshed, i hope the media and fans will work together with us, help Lin Dan along, don't praise him too much. I prefer the old Lin Dan, the Lin Dan that was filled with confidence, filled with killer's instinct. I hope he will return to his former self."
If the worst case happen where Lin Dan lose to Taufik in the decider then Lin Dan fate will be like Chen Hong, we don't want that history to repeat again. Poor Chen Hong!
If the worst case happen where Lin Dan lose to Taufik in the decider then Lin Dan fate will be like Chen Hong, we don't want that history to repeat again. Poor Chen Hong!
i think LD's seat will be safe for another 1.5 yrs. after that, he just have himself to blame.
as much as we want to think that there is an army of replacements waiting to replace the top players, in reality, there really isn't anybody. the best of the replacements CJ isn't exactly stellar to be frank. it will take a few more years to cultivate them and LD will have to continue to serve in the LYB army until he is dispensible.
DRaGoNoVA
06-17-2007, 12:08 AM
does anyone know what channel are the matches being broadcasted that we can watch on the internet?
Krisna
06-17-2007, 12:15 AM
I heard that Indovision cable is carrying it... Don't know about RCTI TV etc... And if you have CCTV 5, then it is there too...
Natrificial
06-17-2007, 12:20 AM
60% for Candra/Kido
u're kidding right?? Fu/Cai have shown they are worthy of world #1 again and again with results, and good mental fortitude (See singapore open final among others).
at very least they are 60/40 to win.
u're kidding right?? Fu/Cai have shown they are worthy of world #1 again and again with results, and good mental fortitude (See singapore open final among others).
at very least they are 60/40 to win.
Agreed, I think Fu/Cai is playing at their best so is hard to imagine any pair can have more than 50% chance of beating them including the newly teamed Wijaya/Kido. Lets just hope the team that plays better win.
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 01:30 AM
Agreed, I think Fu/Cai is playing at their best so is hard to imagine any pair can have more than 50% chance of beating them including the newly teamed Wijaya/Kido. Lets just hope the team that plays better win.
We will never know..remember XD Kor had unexpectedly beat INA XD as wella s DEN.....even KKK/TBH lost to Eng MD......never say it is impossible....:D:D it has been proved in this tournament that expected pairs to win ended up losing....wijaya/Kido had beaten Fu/Cai with different partner...it is not like new pair who has never faces Fu/Cai yet......expect an upset is possible at this stage.....
Inky2000
06-17-2007, 01:59 AM
Why is that there's no 3rd-4th placing tie (KOR-ENG) and yet there was a 5th-6th one (DEN-MAS)?
Misty100
06-17-2007, 02:03 AM
We will never know..remember XD Kor had unexpectedly beat INA XD as wella s DEN.....even KKK/TBH lost to Eng MD......never say it is impossible....:D:D it has been proved in this tournament that expected pairs to win ended up losing....wijaya/Kido had beaten Fu/Cai with different partner...it is not like new pair who has never faces Fu/Cai yet......expect an upset is possible at this stage.....
Brave prediction, Hau-ge. In reality, the chance are not stack in INA's favours. Chn will win easily. The already have 2 points in the bag (WS & WD). And they only have to hunt down 1 point, from 3 options (WR-1: LinDan, WR-1:Fu/Cai, and obviously World best XD pair: Gao/Zheng). Fu & Cai are playing very well, they are awesome in almost all aspects of their game... and I don't see how they will falter at this stage.
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 02:12 AM
Brave prediction, Hau-ge. In reality, the chance are not stack in INA's favours. Chn will win easily. The already have 2 points in the bag (WS & WD). And they only have to hunt down 1 point, from 3 options (WR-1: LinDan, WR-1:Fu/Cai, and obviously World best XD pair: Gao/Zheng). Fu & Cai are playing very well, they are awesome in almost all aspects of their game... and I don't see how they will falter at this stage.
I just said that you will never know that this INA MD can beat Fu/Cai or not...actuallly I did not make the prediction..Fu/Cai never plays Candra/Kido as a pair and Flandy/Vita never meets Gao/Zheng as well..if I am not wrong...I know INA's chance is slim..never say that INA wil win...;)
armortecfans
06-17-2007, 02:20 AM
I just saw the schedule in www.tournamentsoftware.com (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com) that Lin Dan is still fielded to face Taufik Hidayat. I really hope to see this match, although it seems unlikely that the score will be 2-2. But, let see how Indonesia could performs today and I hope that their best fight yesterday against England is not their peak performance so that we will not see anticlimacs for Indonesia today.
The match will start at 1.00 pm Scotland time. Will CCTV5 broadcast it?
bcmmgr
06-17-2007, 02:30 AM
Some how I still prefer Indonesia to WIN, cause
1>. IS not healthy if China keep win all tournament, need to balance out abit.
2>. Sometime China's team (some players/coachs) are too proud.
Jofianty
06-17-2007, 02:37 AM
I hate to say this, but i think China would take the Sudirman Cup AGAIN.
chance 4 indo's team to win is only 30% :(
byelnats
06-17-2007, 02:38 AM
Hey hey guys...just a thought here. A lot of people are saying that Nova is the weakest link in the partnership, right? Why don't they field Flandy and Butet. Flandy has a stronger smash than Nova...courtesy of playing doubles almost all his life.
Anyway, Indonesia's managers always come up with surprise pairing. So we may even see Flandy/Greysiaa. I think Rizal is too young to be given the responsibility to play in the final.
armortecfans
06-17-2007, 02:39 AM
I agree with you, bcmmgr. But, what else can we say? China is too strong now. And as Jofianty said, Indonesia has a slim chance to win. I hope that Indonesia and other countries could develop their badminton like China, so that the competition will be more interesting.
samuel882
06-17-2007, 02:40 AM
quite disappointed about the Lineups for SC Final.. Does any 1 know who decide this? why does it completely diff with SF's?
Based on this match set-ups, CHN will take this with a 3-0 win . That meants the whole badminton mad fans doesnt got the chances to see the great MS match between TOP Two Badmintion Legends. What a shame for this SC !
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 02:48 AM
3-0 or 3-1.
ZHENG Bo/GAO Ling VS Flandy Limpele/Marissa Vita
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng VS Markis Kido/Wijaya Candra :51% to 49%
ZHANG Ning VS Firdasari Adriyanti
YANG Wei/ZHAO Tingting VS Polii Greysia/Marissa Vita
LIN Dan VS Taufik Hidayat :no match!!!!!!
armortecfans
06-17-2007, 02:49 AM
quite disappointed about the Lineups for SC Final.. Does any 1 know who decide this? why does it completely diff with SF's?
Based on this match set-ups, CHN will take this with a 3-0 win . That meants the whole badminton mad fans doesnt got the chances to see the great MS match between TOP Two Badmintion Legends. What a shame for this SC !
Don't be pessimistic, my friend. I think, Indonesia put Flandy/Vita, simply just because Nova/Lilyana is still not showing their best yet. And Candra/Markis, since they played well against England, I think that is the reason underlying the decision. Although, I still question myself, why don't they put back Markis/Hendra against Cai/Fu. The chance is also big for them to win.
Anyway, let see. I think, the coach should know better who should be fielded.
One thing I still don't understand, why the order is XD - MD - WS - WD - MS, this is so unusual. Who has decided this?
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 02:51 AM
The line-up shoud be like this:
MX,MS,WD,MD,WS
samuel882
06-17-2007, 03:01 AM
Don't be pessimistic, my friend. I think, Indonesia put Flandy/Vita, simply just because Nova/Lilyana is still not showing their best yet. And Candra/Markis, since they played well against England, I think that is the reason underlying the decision. Although, I still question myself, why don't they put back Markis/Hendra against Cai/Fu. The chance is also big for them to win.
Anyway, let see. I think, the coach should know better who should be fielded.
One thing I still don't understand, why the order is XD - MD - WS - WD - MS, this is so unusual. Who has decided this?
I would love to see INDO emerged as new SC champions; however that just couldnt be in this case...
Chandra is one of my fav player; but bear in mind that the INDO scratch MD is just playing the first competiton match together.. Even if FHF/CY meets them up yesterday; the CHN also will lose that match to INA MD.
this is becoz the Chinese always study the video of their opponents' match. so they wont be able to read KIDO/Chandras game's plan..
But this time i fink CHN Doubles coach XXD will be ready coz he is among the spectacular who witnessing the match between INA & ENG Pairs yesterday.
Furthermore; FHF/CY was in smashing form. No pair in this world would able stop them at the moments. I predicted this game will go into rubber set. With INDO taking the first . Then CHN wrap it off in the remaining two sets.
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 03:13 AM
I would love to see INDO emerged as new SC champions; however that just couldnt be in this case...
Chandra is one of my fav player; but bear in mind that the INDO scratch MD is just playing the first competiton match together.. .......
Wijaya Candra , not Chandra.
nwy5633
06-17-2007, 03:23 AM
with such a line up, CHN will win 3-0 for my prediction...
no more LD - Taufik showdown...
wat a dissapointment...
volcom
06-17-2007, 03:42 AM
Its completely bullcrap to say that FHF/CY would definitely lose their first match to any 'pretty good' new pairing that they haven't seen before.
If they can only win by studying video replays then that must mean they can win through superior tactics and not in actual skill?
Well the other teams can study just as hard as them and still lose, is it that the other pairs are as good on the field just useless in creating good tactics pre-game?
KlasseE
06-17-2007, 03:46 AM
Some how I still prefer Indonesia to WIN, cause
1>. IS not healthy if China keep win all tournament, need to balance out abit.
2>. Sometime China's team (some players/coachs) are too proud.
Agree with you.
They (the nationalists) especially LYB dislike the US but they act like they are american......
samuel882
06-17-2007, 03:51 AM
yes.. the CHN teams are too arogant. Always cant lose. I like TH quoted : "IF CHN couldnt manage to Win ALL 5 golds in Beijing 2008. Then LYB's head will be chopped
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 03:52 AM
Agree with you.
They (the nationalists) especially LYB dislike the US but they act like they are american......
NO,no,no,no,no,no,no!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
there is some misunderstanding here,I think .
samuel882
06-17-2007, 03:55 AM
FHF/CY did have some BAD records losing against newly forge combination.. Especially frm Doubles Powerhorse : MAS/ KOR / INA before..
Looks at how they failed against KKK/TBH tripple times before they eventually went back CHN & study all the MAS pair tricks then manage to beat them twice in a rolls.
volcom
06-17-2007, 04:20 AM
When it comes to winning... one hbas to have the proud 'I will win' attitude to succeed.
Weak minded humble people never make good leaders, you need strong minded hardfisted leaders like LYB who will take no crap from anyone.
Great leaders in history like Mao Ze Dong, Stalin and Hitler were proud
volcom
06-17-2007, 04:22 AM
FHF/CY did have some BAD records losing against newly forge combination.. Especially frm Doubles Powerhorse : MAS/ KOR / INA before..
Looks at how they failed against KKK/TBH tripple times before they eventually went back CHN & study all the MAS pair tricks then manage to beat them twice in a rolls.
I think you have to factor in the ultra sharp drop in the performance of KKK and TBH like losing in ABC. Obviously they are playing extremely below par atm.
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2MD Yun Cai (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1016)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) Haifeng Fu (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1017)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Kido Markis (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1035) http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Candra Wijaya (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1051)
3WS Ning Zhang (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1021)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Adriyanti Firdasari (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1034)
4WD Wei Yang (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1025)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) Tinting Zhao (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1029)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Greysia Polii (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1041) http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Vita Marissa (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1045)
5MS Dan Lin (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1013)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Taufik Hidayat (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1030)
by looking at the order, I think INDONESIA stll can win this cup, if they can manage grabbing 2 points in advance
YEAHHHHH I Still confidence with INDONESIA
one thing that I dissagree with team indonesia is they not put PIA ZEBAIDAH as the WS, so she can learn playing in the GREAT TOUR like this :mad:
Agree with you.
They (the nationalists) especially LYB dislike the US but they act like they are american......
I also agree with you, I dunno why but now I hate especially LYB and LD, I just give a salute to Zhang NIng, and Xie Xn Fang
Jofianty
06-17-2007, 04:32 AM
1XD Bo Zheng (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1020)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) Ling Gao (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1024)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Limpele Flandy (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1048) http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Vita Marissa (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1045)
2MD Yun Cai (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1016)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) Haifeng Fu (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1017)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Kido Markis (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1035) http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Candra Wijaya (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1051)
3WS Ning Zhang (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1021)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Adriyanti Firdasari (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1034)
4WD Wei Yang (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1025)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) Tinting Zhao (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1029)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Greysia Polii (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1041) http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Vita Marissa (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1045)
5MS Dan Lin (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1013)http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/CHN.gif[CHN] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=CHN) - http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/images/flags/INA.gif[INA] (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/players.aspx?id=15280&c=INA)Taufik Hidayat (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/sport/player.aspx?id=15280&player=1030)
by looking at the order, I think INDONESIA stll can win this cup, if they can manage grabbing 2 points in advance
YEAHHHHH I Still confidence with INDONESIA
is this the fix line up for Final match?
probably we still can see the battle between TH And Lin dan if INA take the MX and MD
zqloy
06-17-2007, 04:38 AM
When it comes to winning... one hbas to have the proud 'I will win' attitude to succeed.
Weak minded humble people never make good leaders, you need strong minded hardfisted leaders like LYB who will take no crap from anyone.
Great leaders in history like Mao Ze Dong, Stalin and Hitler were proud
Plz tell me u're kidding? Mao Ze Dong, Stalin and Hitler were great leaders? At least dont put Hitler in that list for goodness sake!
Indonesia have a chance to win this cup. Or even give China a good fight. I hope it will not be a 3-0 wipeout again by China.
samuel882
06-17-2007, 04:48 AM
Hereis BAdmintion column.. Please dun mention all those political leaders! BADminton got nothing to do with them !
niezzam6177
06-17-2007, 05:17 AM
We probably would not see TH vs LD match with that kind of play's order...
Who responsible organizing that order of play anyway? They keep changing it in most of the match. They should be a formal order of play like in Thomas Cup...
volcom
06-17-2007, 05:33 AM
Plz tell me u're kidding? Mao Ze Dong, Stalin and Hitler were great leaders? At least dont put Hitler in that list for goodness sake!
Dude don't look at things from just one perspective... of course we all know Hitler was a evil man, but lets cut out things as that. In terms of leadership, he was excellent, don't tell me it doesn't take an excellent leader to revive a virtually dead economy and nation suffering unbelievably from the great depression. At the time kids were using Mark(German notes) and sticking them together to play kites... the inflation was just that bad.
Without his great leadership which united the nation, create a lufftwaffe and activated the many factories, thus producing many jobs... Germany would've been in a complete disarray and dire position and probably taken over by some other country.
As a person sure, he was crap but its not a leaders responsibility to be a kind humble weak minded person, it takes a strong uncurbed mind to lead such a nation from such diabolical stiutaions and put them as the number one nation in the world( for a short period of time...)
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 05:34 AM
CCTV-5 reported that there will be a change in order just now.
volcom
06-17-2007, 05:39 AM
:O?! more details please
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 05:40 AM
MS is the first match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 05:40 AM
But LYB disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
volcom
06-17-2007, 05:41 AM
MS is the first match!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek: :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
Hmm I guess its to please the angry spectators... ;)
volcom
06-17-2007, 05:42 AM
But LYB disagree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I would too... winning is more important anything... as long as you win it all doesn't matter, no matter how you achieved it.
Winners write history.... while the losers are slowly forgotten for being so close yet so far...
niezzam6177
06-17-2007, 05:43 AM
CCTV-5 reported that there will be a change in order just now.
Change of order?? Are u sure? MS 1st??
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 05:45 AM
MX is the first match and WD is the forth match.(Because Vita Marissa will play both MX and WD)
They drew lots to decide the order (of MD,WS,MS) yesterday.
LYB chose MD for second match while INA chose WS for third match.
But CCTV-5 just reported that there will be a change in order.
++++++++++++++++++++++LYB disagree
demolidor
06-17-2007, 05:49 AM
Hmm, hard for me to imagine why the Indonesian team would want the MS to be the last, coz it might be all over by then.
Maybe they're trying to to use that as a message to their other players? i.e. not to rely just on Taufik, but to take responsibility and try harder to win their own games? Dunno, just maybe.
Joe P.
To add pressure :cool:. If anyone on the INA team can perform under pressure it's Taufik whilst Lin Dan is so-so under heavy pressure. So rather than put all the pressure on the XD that is already under pressure because it's a must-win anyway at least some of the pressure of a 2-2 score can be redirected to the MS match.
But same as in the 2005 when any of the XD, MD or MS is lost the final is as good as over and not interesting anymore. X-Mas is only once a year after all :p.
:o But I see there has been a change in matchorder lol ...
niezzam6177
06-17-2007, 05:50 AM
MX is the first match and WD is the forth match.(Because Vita Marissa will play both MX and WD)
They drew lots to decide the order (of MD,WS,MS) yesterday.
LYB chose MD for second match while INA chose WS for third match.
But CCTV-5 just reported that there will be a change in order.
++++++++++++++++++++++LYB disagree
They can chose any order they like? Why INA picked WS instead of MS?
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 05:54 AM
They drew lots to decide the order (of MD,WS,MS) yesterday.
jerby
06-17-2007, 06:07 AM
will CCTV5 show it? all I'm getting is tabletennis
which has some crazy rally's anyhow ;)
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 06:19 AM
yup..according to an article in the cctv website..the finals will be shown at 7.25 bj time...though the program stated semis..prob the program listing made a mistake or forgot to update
samuel882
06-17-2007, 06:19 AM
Change again??? Y did BWF so "childish" ?!
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 06:28 AM
okay...i think it's starting...let's see the order...cross fingers...
kobe77sg
06-17-2007, 06:32 AM
Don't be pessimistic, my friend. I think, Indonesia put Flandy/Vita, simply just because Nova/Lilyana is still not showing their best yet. And Candra/Markis, since they played well against England, I think that is the reason underlying the decision. Although, I still question myself, why don't they put back Markis/Hendra against Cai/Fu. The chance is also big for them to win.
Anyway, let see. I think, the coach should know better who should be fielded.
One thing I still don't understand, why the order is XD - MD - WS - WD - MS, this is so unusual. Who has decided this?
In fact this is a good line up for indonesia. Nova/butet has proven that they can't take pressure. so Flandy/Vita is better. Doesn't matter that Vita play 2 times as the WD is difficult to take. In fact Indo should put greysa/butet in WD.
MD-> instead of putting kido/hendra which has been beaten by fu/cai many times chandra/kido is the answer as chandra has proven he can paly with anybody
And then the line up is good for Indo as indo should take the first 2 game
and china will take another 2 game
and the decider will be on Taufik vs LD.
for the last match Taufik will have a slight edge. Especially LD did not play well yesterday.
Indo to win 3-2
The organiser purposely to make this line up to make the match more interesting
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 06:40 AM
there's no change in the line up..MS still last...=(
volcom
06-17-2007, 06:41 AM
In fact this is a good line up for indonesia. Nova/butet has proven that they can't take pressure. so Flandy/Vita is better. Doesn't matter that Vita play 2 times as the WD is difficult to take. In fact Indo should put greysa/butet in WD.
MD-> instead of putting kido/hendra which has been beaten by fu/cai many times chandra/kido is the answer as chandra has proven he can paly with anybody
And then the line up is good for Indo as indo should take the first 2 game
and china will take another 2 game
and the decider will be on Taufik vs LD.
for the last match Taufik will have a slight edge. Especially LD did not play well yesterday.
Indo to win 3-2
The organiser purposely to make this line up to make the match more interesting
Wishful thinking mate... Wishful thinking is all I can say
It will be 3-0 to The land of the dragon :D
niezzam6177
06-17-2007, 06:41 AM
In fact this is a good line up for indonesia. Nova/butet has proven that they can't take pressure. so Flandy/Vita is better. Doesn't matter that Vita play 2 times as the WD is difficult to take. In fact Indo should put greysa/butet in WD.
MD-> instead of putting kido/hendra which has been beaten by fu/cai many times chandra/kido is the answer as chandra has proven he can paly with anybody
And then the line up is good for Indo as indo should take the first 2 game
and china will take another 2 game
and the decider will be on Taufik vs LD.
for the last match Taufik will have a slight edge. Especially LD did not play well yesterday.
Indo to win 3-2
The organiser purposely to make this line up to make the match more interesting
It might ended up the other way around with CHN sweep all the first 3 matches...
It wouldnt be interesting anymore...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 06:47 AM
V ALL know CHN will win this SC., But lets hopes the score will not be 3:0.
No 1 like to c an one-sided affair..
samuel882
06-17-2007, 06:52 AM
there's no change in the line up..MS still last...=(
Confirmed No Chance? Fink the organizer listening to the arrogant LYB's complaints!
BTW, Consider the fact that Vita is playing XD & WD; y didnt they line-ups the WD for the last match instead?? Really weird !
ikaboo
06-17-2007, 06:53 AM
Could someone translate what cctv5 is talking about right now?
And it's still starting in 5 minutes right?!
jerby
06-17-2007, 06:54 AM
somebody should see "der Untergang" ;)
anyway, on-topic: I've been on the edge of my seat since 13:00....totally oblivious to the fact it was 12:00 in scotland...
1 hour of Chinese happy-happy-joy-joy commercials is more than a sane man can stand in a day...
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 06:56 AM
cctv 5 just explained a bit abt the line up thingy..confirm no change.
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 06:58 AM
the line up was decided by drawing lots. but before tt was needed both sides (INA and CHN) agreed for XD to be 1st and WD to be 4th so that didn need to draw lots. and the remaining were decided by picking shuttles with numbers written on them to decide the sequence.
DoublesPlayer
06-17-2007, 07:03 AM
This is the only way Indonesia can win, they have a chance, but the line-up favors China, well, China is superior in most of the matches, but if it comes down to deciding match between Lin Dan and Taufik, Taufik will win.
I bolded the team that I HOPE will win ...
This is the best line-up from Indonesia team based on the players performance in the past week, trust me, the Indonesian team managers know their players performance better than us.
XD Bo Zheng [CHN] / Ling Gao [CHN] - [INA] Limpele Flandy / [INA] Vita Marissa 50 - 50
MD Yun Cai [CHN] / Haifeng Fu [CHN] - [INA] Kido Markis / [INA] Candra Wijaya 50 - 50
WS Ning Zhang [CHN] - [INA] Adriyanti Firdasari 1 - 99
WD Wei Yang [CHN] / Tinting Zhao [CHN] - [INA] Greysia Polii / [INA] Vita Marissa 60 - 40
MS Dan Lin [CHN] - [INA] Taufik Hidayat 45 - 55
Ian015
06-17-2007, 07:04 AM
cctv5 just blablabla on how strong china is~
go INA, i wanna see lindan vs taufik~ ^^
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:05 AM
helloo everyonee!!! the game is about to start!! stop doing predictionsss lol!! hoho.. enjoyyyyyyyy =) *crossing fingers..*
INA jia you!!!!!!!!!
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:06 AM
5 mins frm the start of XD now... Lets wish for an entertaining and pulsating match..
volcom
06-17-2007, 07:06 AM
FIrst match definitely GL and ZB's :)
Krisna
06-17-2007, 07:07 AM
If we ever get to see Lin Dan - Taufik, then INA has a GREAT chance to win it all.... Taufik is very good in pressure situations....
chemile
06-17-2007, 07:07 AM
For me, to become the real/true champion we must put aside any problem with drawing or anything else. If lost, we just say 2 years more better luck and coming home, train hard, etc. I think people, specially in Indonesia, understand that Rudi Hartono or Susi Susanti era has been past, and Indonesia is not dominate.
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:07 AM
hope INA put their best efforts =) aaaa.. cant wait..
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:09 AM
For me, to become the real/true champion we must put aside any problem with drawing or anything else. If lost, we just say 2 years more better luck and coming home, train hard, etc. I think people, specially in Indonesia, understand that Rudi Hartono or Susi Susanti era has been past, and Indonesia is not dominate.
a very good P.O.V :)
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 07:11 AM
CCTV-5 reporter said both CHN and INA disagree with the change of order.
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 07:11 AM
hmm..the commentary claims that the change in line up was disagreed strongly by both china and indonesia...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:12 AM
THE match started already.. no point arguing the line up at the moments..
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:13 AM
...*long yawn*...good morning & good evening guys....hehe:P;)
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:13 AM
1-6 : Vita making too many mistakes!
vching
06-17-2007, 07:15 AM
hello everybody!
since malaysia is gone, i'm going to support indonesia!
btw livescore still not working so can some kind souls enlighten me periodically on the scores
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:15 AM
..some nerves and errors to start off the game...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:16 AM
5-9 for
INA ...
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:16 AM
huahh.. im so nervousss... INA pair stay focus plss =)
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:16 AM
11-5 for interval..
chemile
06-17-2007, 07:17 AM
God, so fast.... 11-5 now!
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:17 AM
not looking good for INA pairs for the moment
chemile
06-17-2007, 07:18 AM
Is Astro show this matches? I want to go home if it is....
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:18 AM
I'm going to assume it's just a slow start for Indonesia... I'm sure they can do better than this...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:18 AM
yes.. ASTRO is showing live now...
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:19 AM
they're keep doing unforced errors.. >.< this is not what i wantt to see..
chemile
06-17-2007, 07:19 AM
I had a feeling that ZB/Gl will win easily. This is final match, and I think Gao Ling won't lose this moment.
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 07:19 AM
13 - 7 to china
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:19 AM
can anyone give the link for astro plss/?
bipbip1
06-17-2007, 07:20 AM
how about RCTI?? i can only get local channels.
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:21 AM
still more unforced errors frm Vita... :(
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:22 AM
can anyone give the link for astro plss/?
Astrom is not providing WebCast .. Buddy
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:22 AM
waa.. 15-12 now.. come on INA>..!!!
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:23 AM
oopss.. hihii.. sorry bout that.. dunno anything bout astro lol.. coz cctv 5 is a bit slower than the actual score huhu
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:23 AM
...15-12 for CHN at the moment...hmm, i think this sudden start for the INA squad might be too much...they might be *fresher*, but i wonder how it'll be if they had played yesterday....just to get their feet wet..;)
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:23 AM
15-13 now!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! jia you INAA
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:23 AM
16-13.... break
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:24 AM
They shld attack GL more... she is start nervous now ~!
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:24 AM
Good Indonesia are closing gap now.
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:24 AM
16-all .. yeah!
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:25 AM
16-16 noww!! go go... 5 pts to goo lol .. -.-
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:25 AM
17-16.. 1st time INA leading ! Cheers!
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:25 AM
Hello everybody.....hoping INA can give a fight....
Is there any chang for line up?
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:25 AM
INA pair is leading for the first time!!!
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:26 AM
..Gao Ling seemed to either not want to waste her energy smashing at Flandy or she thinks that his defense is respectable..;)..a closer game now...;)
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:26 AM
18-17 huhuhu nooo...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:26 AM
Hello everybody.....hoping INA can give a fight....
Is there any chang for line up?
no change.. my fran.
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
wow..18-18 all....fight!! fight!!
shyeling
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
any webcast there??
thanx.....
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
Tense... Indo really have to win this one...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
mayb going for a deuce game?
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
..the INA pair is starting to get their rhythm now..more livelier on their feet...:p.
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
19-19 alll even
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:27 AM
INA is giving a fight!!!
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:28 AM
Set point Flandy/Vita!!
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:28 AM
match point for inAAAAAAAAAAAA
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:28 AM
any webcast there??
thanx.....
...playing on CCTV5...;)
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:28 AM
just read the posts ....seems INA started slow before they catch up...
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
Ina Won First Setttttttt
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
yes! unbelievable frm 8-15 to 21-19!!
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
YESS, go Indonesia!! So far so good :D. Except for the start I guess lol.
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
Lost!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lx2_Oddkinsonz
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
omg 1st set to INA
vching
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
go indo!!!! give china a run for their money!
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:29 AM
goshhhhhh... go go.. grab another set for us =) INA jiayou!!
vching
06-17-2007, 07:30 AM
Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo! Indo!
Ian015
06-17-2007, 07:30 AM
wahhhhhhhhhhh
good play~~~~~~~~~~~
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:30 AM
YES!!! first set to INA !!..I am trying to wake up.....coffee on the hand....
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:30 AM
Ina always goods in rallies.. Dont they?
while CHN pairs struggle to sustain during long play...
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:31 AM
INA!! pls win....we want to see LD vs TH......
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:32 AM
Ina always goods in rallies.. Dont they?
while CHN pairs struggle to sustain during long play...
Dont underestimate CHN...as long as INA gives a good fight....thats enough for me...I think ZB/GL never meets Flandy/Vita before..
ikaboo
06-17-2007, 07:32 AM
ah china choked good. lol i really just want to see th vs. ld
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:32 AM
yess.. same here.. i wanna see LD vs TH!! it'd be really cool to decide the winner!!! for now.. go go vmarissa/flimpele =) *boo.. huangwokhau.. i finally chose to watch badminton.. can go to church later in the afternoon lol*
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:33 AM
INA is leading 3-2 now.. so far..
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:33 AM
just read the posts ....seems INA started slow before they catch up...
..seemed to get off their early game jitters...Flandy is really controlling the rallies, playing smarter shot selections..CHN pair seemed to make more errors towards the end of the 1st set...Should be a very good 2nd set; CHN must force rubber set; INA has to close...;)..
Btw, thx huangkwokhau for your updates, yesterday!;):):cool:
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:33 AM
5-2 for INA.. CHN pair starting to tumble under pressure now..
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:33 AM
it seems that CN players always struggle playing against sorta 'unknown' players..?
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:33 AM
4-2 now for INA...may be INA has more confident after winning 1st set
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:34 AM
yess.. same here.. i wanna see LD vs TH!! it'd be really cool to decide the winner!!! for now.. go go vmarissa/flimpele =) *boo.. huangwokhau.. i finally chose to watch badminton.. can go to church later in the afternoon lol*
God bless you !!! He will understand why...;)
Ian015
06-17-2007, 07:35 AM
yeah~ i'm malaysia supporter, and also taufik supporter~
so, INA jia you!
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:35 AM
7-3.. Flampe is DAmn Cool...
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:35 AM
INA pls maintain this 4 points gap!!
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 07:36 AM
ZHENG/GAO jia you,jia you , jia you
FENG YUN jia you , jiayou !!!!
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:36 AM
..seemed to get off their early game jitters...Flandy is really controlling the rallies, playing smarter shot selections..CHN pair seemed to make more errors towards the end of the 1st set...Should be a very good 2nd set; CHN must force rubber set; INA has to close...;)..
Btw, thx huangkwokhau for your updates, yesterday!;):):cool:
No problem..bro!! 8-3 for INA..so far so good.....
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:36 AM
ZHENG/GAO jia you,jia you , jia you
FENG YUN jia you , jiayou !!!!
Li...what does it mean Feng Yun??? trying to learn more chinese.....:D
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:37 AM
argh.. it's 6-8 now.. huhu..
tommy_bun
06-17-2007, 07:37 AM
Cmon China dont make me shamed
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:38 AM
Hmm come on Flandy/Vita keep your lead....
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 07:38 AM
Li...what does it mean Feng Yun??? trying to learn more chinese.....:D
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng=FENG YUN(风云)
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:38 AM
CHN is closing gap 7-8
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:38 AM
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng=FENG YUN(风云)
haiya!!! thought I would learn new word...:mad::mad::D:D
tommy_bun
06-17-2007, 07:39 AM
Li...what does it mean Feng Yun??? trying to learn more chinese.....:D
aiyo hau ge feng yun is fuhaifeng cai yun lah
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:39 AM
CAI Yun/FU Haifeng=FENG YUN(风云)
Haha.. the comic characters also involved here? :p
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:39 AM
Maybe this set will be the opposite? China start slow but catch up later...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:39 AM
wah.. Vita plays better now than SF.
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:39 AM
wahh.. it's really a tight game now.. 8-9 huhu.. INA jiayou!! rang zhongguo dui diu lian lol..
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:40 AM
Wish I was able to watch this :(. Stupid data cap...
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:40 AM
neck to neck 9-10 for chn
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:41 AM
10-all !! wao! !!
ctjcad
06-17-2007, 07:41 AM
wah.. Vita plays better now than SF.
..didn't play in the Semis...It was Nova & Lilyana which lost in rubber sets..;)
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:41 AM
11-10 fro CHn interval !
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:42 AM
CHN is leading 11-10 during interval..come on INA!!
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:42 AM
..didn't play in the Semis...It was Nova & Lilyana which lost in rubber sets..;)
I meant WD match in SF
LI De Quan
06-17-2007, 07:42 AM
wahh.. it's really a tight game now.. 8-9 huhu.. INA jiayou!! rang zhongguo dui diu lian lol..
You understand Chinese,haha
tommy_bun
06-17-2007, 07:42 AM
yes china pair is leading,This is what Im talking about man
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:43 AM
Awesome first match :D. But Indonesia really have to win... Else I don't see Lin Dan and Taufik playing for decider or anything...
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:43 AM
GL is dominating the nets now..
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:43 AM
ouch.. 12-10 for the chinese noww.. oh nooo...
Racquet4ever
06-17-2007, 07:43 AM
:)
sorry..but u can use sopcast to watch it...try seacrh sopcast at yahoo and donwload it...only 2mb i think...
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:43 AM
You understand Chinese,haha
Most of Chinese overseas understand chinese a bit... like me..I speak Chiu Chow and Hakka!!!
samuel882
06-17-2007, 07:44 AM
Awesome first match :D. But Indonesia really have to win... Else I don't see Lin Dan and Taufik playing for decider or anything...
Yeah.. Evy Bad Mad fans are eagerly awaiting for that match... Fink only Die-Hard CHN will hopes them takes this XD match..
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:44 AM
yes i do understand chinese.. but i write better than i speak =( huhuhu... o yea huangkwokhau.. go use QQ to improve ur chinese.. it really helps! lol.. btw INA jiayou!!
phaarix
06-17-2007, 07:45 AM
Ah no don't let this go to three :(!!!
huangkwokhau
06-17-2007, 07:45 AM
14-11 now for china...
keanny
06-17-2007, 07:45 AM
argh.. 15-11 now.. huhuhu
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