Asian Junior Championship (July15-22)

[djake]

Just like to know what everyone think about the potential contenders. It is difficult to predict because you're never quite sure who's eligible (age-wise) and also who China (the traditional dominant powerhouse) is going to send. We had glimpses of the Malaysian and Indonesian juniors in the circuit recently, but will they be good enough against China / Korea / japan?

Contenders-
MS - chan kwong beng (mal), bandar sigit (ina), jang sung ho (kor), park sung min (kor), lim fang yang (mal), chen long (chn)

WS- Saina Nehwal (Ind), Lydia Cheah (mal), Maria Febe (ina), Liu Jie (chn), Kim Moon Hi (kor), pia zebadiah (ina), xing aiying (sin)

Anyone else you can add to the list?

[huangkwokhau]

INa or Mas are good enough to fight korea and japan, not China...may be...

Pls note that China is above then INA/Mas/Kor are equal...

Febby Anguni will be there...

[Krisna]

According to the PBSI website in http://www.pb-pbsi.net/rankTpi.asp?PId=1

The top Indonesian Juniors [Under 19] are:
3. Pia [Jaya Raya]
4. Maria Febe [Djarum] :)
14. Lindaweni Fanetri [Ragunan]
16. Febby Angguni [Djarum]
18. Tike Arieda Ningrum [Djarum]
19. Alfa Vivianita [Djarum]
21. Niken Yulia Wicaksana [Djarum]
24. Jenna Gozali [Djarum]
28. Febrina Rahma Saputri [Jaya Raya]
30. Ana Rovita [Djarum]

For the Asian Juniors, usually they allocate the top 4 INA Juniors... If so, then Pia, Febe, Lindaweni, and Febby shall represent INA in the up and coming Asian Juniors. ;) My favorite is Febe! She should go to the quarterfinals, but not necessarily win it all. The CHN and KOR girls are tough. Febe will next appear in the Thailand Open [after the INA Superliga Badminton].

[Krisna]

Here's what I gather from the INA MS ranking in http://www.pb-pbsi.net/RankTpa.asp?PId=1 ...the top Under-19 INA MS are...

11. Nugroho Andi Saputro [Djarum]
15. Bandar Sigit Pamungkas [Djarum]
21. Nandang Arif [Tangkas]
28. Yosis Siswanto [Lippo]
29. Aditya Arifin [Jaya Raya]
30. Ade Riyadi [Djarum]
33. Senatria [SGS]

If PBSI uses ranking to choose who shall represent INA at the Asian Juniors, then Nugroho, Bandar, Nandang, and Yosis should go. :)

I heard that PBSI have decided to just fund the Pelatnas athletes to represent INA. The other INA qualifiers [who are not in Pelatnas, such as Nugroho Andi, Nandang Arif etc.] will have to fund themselves if they want to go the Asian Juniors.

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Contenders-
MS - chan kwong beng (mal), bandar sigit (ina), jang sung ho (kor), park sung min (kor), lim fang yang (mal), chen long (chn)

WS- Saina Nehwal (Ind), Lydia Cheah (mal), Maria Febe (ina), Liu Jie (chn), Kim Moon Hi (kor), pia zebadiah (ina), xing aiying (sin)

Anyone else you can add to the list?It's funny that you'd mention Jang Sung-ho when he doesn't seem to have any international results to speak of. Shin Baek-chul, winner of the German Junior Int'l and R16 finisher at the WJC is the main Korean contender. He is the Korean high school championship runner-up(beaten by a kid from Seoul who isn't on the nat'l junior team). Park Sung-min was runner-up in Germany and also reached the R16 in Incheon.

In girls' singles, Kim Moon-hee turns 19 next week so she is not eligible. Bae Youn-joo, semi-finalist in Incheon and runner-up at the Cheers Satellite is a contender. Oem Hye-won, semi-finalist in Germany, is one of a couple of 15-year-olds who have potential but little international experience.

Is Tommy Sugiarto 19 already? What about Wang Yihan?

[huangkwokhau]

It's funny that you'd mention Jang Sung-ho when he doesn't seem to have any international results to speak of. Shin Baek-chul, winner of the German Junior Int'l and R16 finisher at the WJC is the main Korean contender. He is the Korean high school championship runner-up(beaten by a kid from Seoul who isn't on the nat'l junior team). Park Sung-min was runner-up in Germany and also reached the R16 in Incheon.

In girls' singles, Kim Moon-hee turns 19 next week so she is not eligible. Bae Youn-joo, semi-finalist in Incheon and runner-up at the Cheers Satellite is a contender. Oem Hye-won, semi-finalist in Germany, is one of a couple of 15-year-olds who have potential but little international experience.

Is Tommy Sugiarto 19 already? What about Wang Yihan?

I think Tommy and wang Yi Han are over 19 now...correct me if I am wrong.

But there is no quarantee the winner will be successful in senior level....sad to say that...

[Krisna]

Yes, Tommy is 19 this year. Don't know about Wang Yi Han... Tommy is not bad. He can be one of Sony or Simon's replacement... but he is no Taufik... I hope another INA 19 year old named Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka can be the top INA player. Hayom reached the Vietnam Challenge quarterfinals last month. Nugroho Andi Saputro is another potential. But this guy strikes me as a bit reckless... I saw him when he won the 2006 Indonesian National Junior Championship.

[hcyong]

Don't forget that Kenichi Tago. Is he still a junior?

[djake]

Don't forget that Kenichi Tago. Is he still a junior?

In the Sudirman cup match between tago and susilo, Morten Frost mentioned that he's now 19.

[huangkwokhau]

Tago is not eligible for Junior anymore...goood for him as I prefer him to play senior level...we need another stars beside CHN/INA/MAS and Korea.....

[tommy_bun]

What about Wang Yihan?
Wang Yihan is 19,she was born in 1988.
Wang Lin is 18 but I dont think she will be in since she has made it into senior championship.

[tommy_bun]

I think Liu Jie is a strong contender,I still remember This year's asian championship,she lost to Yip pui yin by margin 19-21,19-21.She has improved a lot.Maybe Cheng wen and Han li will be her back up.

[blessing]

djake.. XINg aiYing of SIN still junior.......???? r u sure.....????

[waja11]

Tago is not eligible for Junior anymore...goood for him as I prefer him to play senior level...we need another stars beside CHN/INA/MAS and Korea.....


i thought he is 18 this year?

[djake]

djake.. XINg aiYing of SIN still junior.......???? r u sure.....????

As far as I know, she's 18 this year. She has been around since she was 14-15, I think.

[Han]

Asian Junior Badminton Championship 2007
18 July 1330 Team Events Finals
22 July 2200 Individual Events Finals

[blessing]

As far as I know, she's 18 this year. She has been around since she was 14-15, I think.14-15 in national team dy.. not bad..

[blessing]

Asian Junior Badminton Championship 2007
18 July 1330 Team Events Finals
22 July 2200 Individual Events Finalsany livecast from tv??

[joanne_lee]

Who were selected for this asian junior championship is year?I mean malaysian.....

[blessing]

Who were selected for this asian junior championship is year?I mean malaysian.....the team :

Boys Singles: Mohd Arif Abdul Latif, Vountus Indra Mawan, Teo Kok Siang, Kwan Kam Chung, Lim Fang Yang, Tan Aik Quan, Loo Yik Siang, Iskandar Zulkarnain
Boys Doubles: Lim Khim Wah-Mak Hee Chun, Arif-Vountus, Tan Wee Kiong,-Mohd Lutfi Zaim, Ong Jian Guo-Goh Wei Shen, Yeoh Choong Yee-Chooi Kah Ming, Mohd Syawal Ismail-Iskandar, Jonathan Lee-Goh Jian Hao, Pang Zheng Lin-Lau Win Hwi


Girls Singles: Lydia Cheah, Vivian Ho, Sannatasah Saniru, Tee Jing Yi, Tiffany Chase Currier, Foong Yi Xin, Ong Boon Hui, Ng Sin Er
Girls Doubles: Woon Khe Wei-Goh Liu Ying, Lydia-Jing Yi, Chong Vee Vian-Yeow Mie Xi, Ho Bee Ling-Yvonne Ong Jing Er, Lin Ee Von-Ng Hui Lin, Tiffany-Fong Yi Xin, Ng Si Err-Lai Pei Jing, Sonia Cheah-Yang Li Lian

Mixed doubles: Wee Kiong-Khe Wei, Khim Wah-Hui Lin, Lutfi-Liu Ying, Wei Shen-Sannatasah, Vountus-Mie Xi, Choong Yee-Ee Von, Kam Chung-Vee Vian, Zheng Lin-Yvonne, Kah Ming-Bee Ling, Syawal-Boon Hui, Jian Hao-Yi Xin, Win Hwi-Li Vian.

[joanne_lee]

I find it weird that Vivian will play mix doubles with Win Hwi......

[blessing]

I find it weird that Vivian will play mix doubles with Win Hwi......Li vian or vivian..? n y..?

[badMania]

Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei would be a favorite for the XD title...as long as Lee Yong Dae is not playing anymore :p

The MAS youngsters have gained quite an experiencing playing against Zheng Bo/Gao Ling, Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms and Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam; arguably three of the top 5 pairs in the world in the Sudirman Cup 2007.

[Krisna]

Aaah, I think this XD Malaysian pair is the one that has that left-handed girl. She is good! Rexy's pick... I heard...

[Krisna]

Febby Angguni, one of INA's WS in this year's Asian Juniors...

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic45c0ab85f.jpg

[fengc303]

I think China Badminton Association maybe select chen long,zhang qi,gao huan and wang zhengming as man single player for the game!

[badminto_expert]

Hi Krisna,

Actually. The Ina all player here the age is not correct. Alias banyak nyolong umur.


According to the PBSI website in http://www.pb-pbsi.net/rankTpi.asp?PId=1

The top Indonesian Juniors [Under 19] are:
3. Pia [Jaya Raya]
4. Maria Febe [Djarum] :)
14. Lindaweni Fanetri [Ragunan]
16. Febby Angguni [Djarum]
18. Tike Arieda Ningrum [Djarum]
19. Alfa Vivianita [Djarum]
21. Niken Yulia Wicaksana [Djarum]
24. Jenna Gozali [Djarum]
28. Febrina Rahma Saputri [Jaya Raya]
30. Ana Rovita [Djarum]

For the Asian Juniors, usually they allocate the top 4 INA Juniors... If so, then Pia, Febe, Lindaweni, and Febby shall represent INA in the up and coming Asian Juniors. ;) My favorite is Febe! She should go to the quarterfinals, but not necessarily win it all. The CHN and KOR girls are tough. Febe will next appear in the Thailand Open [after the INA Superliga Badminton].

[badminto_expert]

Last time, Singapore Satelite 2007, I am, Thomas Indra Cahya, Bagus Setiadi, Indonesian Teams included Febby Angguni went to Gelang and we eat Durian...


Febby Angguni, one of INA's WS in this year's Asian Juniors...

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic45c0ab85f.jpg

[badminto_expert]

I think malaysia got alot of money and goverment (BAM) supported the badminton. So Malaysia always send a lot of players. It is good for experiences for the young malaysia players.



the team :

Boys Singles: Mohd Arif Abdul Latif, Vountus Indra Mawan, Teo Kok Siang, Kwan Kam Chung, Lim Fang Yang, Tan Aik Quan, Loo Yik Siang, Iskandar Zulkarnain
Boys Doubles: Lim Khim Wah-Mak Hee Chun, Arif-Vountus, Tan Wee Kiong,-Mohd Lutfi Zaim, Ong Jian Guo-Goh Wei Shen, Yeoh Choong Yee-Chooi Kah Ming, Mohd Syawal Ismail-Iskandar, Jonathan Lee-Goh Jian Hao, Pang Zheng Lin-Lau Win Hwi


Girls Singles: Lydia Cheah, Vivian Ho, Sannatasah Saniru, Tee Jing Yi, Tiffany Chase Currier, Foong Yi Xin, Ong Boon Hui, Ng Sin Er
Girls Doubles: Woon Khe Wei-Goh Liu Ying, Lydia-Jing Yi, Chong Vee Vian-Yeow Mie Xi, Ho Bee Ling-Yvonne Ong Jing Er, Lin Ee Von-Ng Hui Lin, Tiffany-Fong Yi Xin, Ng Si Err-Lai Pei Jing, Sonia Cheah-Yang Li Lian

Mixed doubles: Wee Kiong-Khe Wei, Khim Wah-Hui Lin, Lutfi-Liu Ying, Wei Shen-Sannatasah, Vountus-Mie Xi, Choong Yee-Ee Von, Kam Chung-Vee Vian, Zheng Lin-Yvonne, Kah Ming-Bee Ling, Syawal-Boon Hui, Jian Hao-Yi Xin, Win Hwi-Li Vian.

[Krisna]

Hi Krisna,

Actually. The Ina all player here the age is not correct. Alias banyak nyolong umur.

You are partially right, badminto! :p We all know there are a lot of abuse of age-cheating in INA... I just listed down under-19 [Taruna] top players based on their official age. :p Their real age, only the players, their parents, their direct friends and family know... The official documents were all carefully falsified... :o It is too harsh to say that all of them cheat. I don't have enough viable proof to say that. Does anyone?

I know one player who admitted that she cheated but could not provide evidence to verify that she cheated. Why? Because her official documents are real... and it clearly stated she is 2 years younger than the age she claimed to have cheated. So she said she was actually 16, but all her official documents clearly state she was 14 and she had no documents at all that point out she was 16. Ha ha ha... Even her school records stated she was 14 and started school when she was 7 etc. All authentic and official.

PBSI have been embarrassed many times in the past because BWF or BAC found out our players were cheating. So this time, before the Asian Junior, I heard [I repeat: I heard, so not necessarily they will actually do this], PBSI will do forensic tests on all INA players sent to the Asian Juniors and World Juniors... ;) Mr. Lius was quite adamant that he shall enforce the tests... even though he admitted that the accuracy of the tests are not full-proof...

[champion8]

This year asian junior is going to be tough for the malaysian team. Even though Lydia went into final last year.. this year may be different bcoz this year there are alot of newcomer who are quite good. India Saina Nehwal last year world championship runner up, Indonesia fast improving player like Pia and Febe, Singapore Xing Aiying, Korea Kim Moon Hi and Bae, Thailand Pontip. Not to mention forever strong China, Liu Jie. Maybe they will send Wang Lin who is 18 this year.

Lydia form is on the roller coastal. hopefully she is able to come back stronger.

Our best bet is still in the Boys doubles and Mixed double. hopefully we can win the gold for this event this year. We have 2 boys double who have a good chance that is Arif and Vountus, Mak and Khim Wah. For mixed double we have Wee Kiong and Khe Wei and Hui Lin and Khim Wah

As mentioned in the earlier forum the boys singles are going to be tough.
Hopefully Arif will be able to pull thru. He is our best bet.

[Sandy]

no info who are in Indonesia's team

I see Pia Zebaidah list on PHI Open Qualifying Draw so she won't compete in here.
PBSI only fund INA players from Pelatnas, I guess INA team will be combination of Pelatnas & Djarum.

my prediction of INA team,

Pelatnas players :
Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, Febby Angguni and Richi Dilli Puspita
I'm not sure about the age : Fernando Kurniawan/Subakti and Viki Indra Okvana. Aprilia Yuswandari was born 1988, I think won't be in the team.

Djarum players :
Nugroho Andi Saputro, Maria Febe, Afiat Yuris W./Wifqi Windarto, Rizky/Albert, Debby Susanto/Luluk Maria Ulfa, Reny Rossi/Komala Dewi and others

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This year asian junior ...there are alot of newcomer who are quite good... Korea Kim Moon Hi and BaeKim Moon-hi is 19...honest. See this post (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showpost.php?p=600461&postcount=5). Korea also has a new high school champion who was a quarter-finalist at the German Juniors. See here (http://www.badzine.info/content/view/400/2/).

[Krisna]

Maria Febe Kusumastuti just stretched Zhu Lin to rubber sets in the Thailand Open GP Gold. Although Zhu Lin eventually won 19-21, 21-16, 21-12, most top 20-top 40 players [let alone the Juniors in Asia] could not make things difficult for Zhu Lin. But Febe did. ;)

My hopes are further enforced by the recent results of Febe... Maybe we shall see an Asian Junior champ from INA... maybe... INA needs a breath of fresh air... We need victories to lift the spirit of INA badminton... :D

[Krisna]

Is Xing Aiying still under 19?

[blessing]

Is Xing Aiying still under 19?yea.. yea.. think so..

[Krisna]

More pictures of Febby Angguni...

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic3be26.jpg

[AmandaMun]

anyone has seen the draw for asian junior championship?

[Krisna]

I heard Pia Zebaidah will withdraw from the Asian Juniors because she admits that she is actually above 19. Same goes for Bandar Sigit Pamungkas and Nugroho Andi Saputro...

So now INA is left with Maria Febe as their highest ranking Junior WS, followed by Febby Angguni, if I am not mistaken... As for the MS Junior... maybe Ade Riadi?!? Maybe...

[djake]

Just seen the championship entry list at the ABC website.

Notable absentees - Saina Nehwal (playing in Philippines, I think), Wang Lin, Xing Aiying

Contenders-
MS- Tago, Chen Long (and the other Chinese), Shin Baek Cheol, Arif Latif, Ashton & Derek (Singapore)

WS- Liu Jie (and the other Chinese!), Lydia, Febby Anguni, Maria Febe

MD- Mak/ Lim (mas), Arif/ Vontus (mas), Chai / Li (chn), ?INA pairs

WD- Both Chinese pairs, Jung / Yoo (Kor), Fu / Yao (Sin), Zhang / Gu (Sin)

MXD- Tan / Woon (mas), Lim / Ng (mas), Chinese pair, Shin / Yoo (Kor)

Those are the players that I've heard of. Strangely, I'm more interested in this tournament than the Philippines open which will be held at the same time.

[Krisna]

I will be following this Asian Junior Championship too...

From what I can see... the highest ranking WS in the draw are:
68. Fu Mingtian [SIN]
95. Gu Juan [SIN]
122. Porntip Buranaprasertsuk [THA]
125. Maria Febe Kusumastuti [INA]
--if only 4 WS are seeded, based purely on BWF ranking, then these girls are it--

127. Lydia Cheah Li Na [MAS]
206. Zhang Biewen [SIN]
207. Sannatasah Saniru [MAS]
233. Tee Jing Yi [MAS]
--if 8 WS are seeded, based purely on BWF ranking, these are the 5th to 8th seed--

234. Vivian Hoo Kah Mun [MAS]
252. Wang Shixian [CHN]
255. Liu Jie [CHN]
277. Bae Youn Joo [KOR]
283. Foong Yi Xin [MAS]
285. Thng Ting Ting [SIN]
314. Chase Currier Tiffany [MAS]
335. Chiang Pei Hsing [TPE]
--if 16 are seeded, then these 8 will go next as the 9th to 16th seed--

355. Febby Angguni [INA]
427. Tse Ying Suet [HKG]
435. Chan Tsz Ka [HKG]
452. Sapsiree Taeratanachai [THA]
--in case any of the 16 higher ranking girls withdraws, then these are the next girls in line-- :D



Judging from last year's BWF World Junior Championship policy, they ended up not using WR as the only benchmark. They would give priority seeding to the historically strong badminton countries like China and Korea. And actually.... it is quite true that we should question whether the Singaporean top Juniors [however highly ranked] deserve to be higher seeded than the Chinese top Juniors... :D

[Sandy]

no surprise to INA Junior's team exception in Girl's Double
Richi/Debby
Khrisabella/Natalia

Debby's partner, Luluk Maria maybe has over limit age so she paired Richi
PBSI/Djarum choose Khrisabella/Natalia instead of INA Junior winner Reni Rossi/Komala Dewi, I thaught they need big power player like Khrisabella for team's strategy. Richi played well if she paired with big power player like Yulianti in pelatnas.
I saw Richi's performance represent SGS in Superliga wasn't good. She paired with other small girl, Lita Nurlita or Devi Tika P.

[huangkwokhau]

Sandy...do you know the players who represents INA???

[Sandy]

here is the link,

http://www.badmintonasia.org/event_details.aspx?eventID=81

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Judging from last year's BWF World Junior Championship policy, they ended up not using WR as the only benchmark. They would give priority seeding to the historically strong badminton countries like China and Korea.The reason the Chinese and Korean players were seeded was NOT some prejudice based on past success of the nation. It was that they had done well at the Asian Junior Championships. All the winners at the Asian Juniors - Tago Kenichi, Wang Yihan, Lee Yong Dae/Cho Gun Woo, Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli, Lee Yong Dae/Yoo Hyun Yung - ended up as top seeds (after the re-draw) in Incheon at the worlds and the same went for the lower seeds. The first draw was based solely on world ranking and it left many top juniors unseeded. The re-seeding was far more in step with the actual results with one exception: Saina Nehwal, who had been the top seed in the first go round based on her Philippine Open victory, finally started the tournament as a ninth seed but ended up as the runner-up.

There were Europeans and Oceanians among the seeded competitors at Incheon, presumably on the strength of their performances at European Junior tournaments, but they were not seeded as highly for some reason. Perhaps the BWF had excellent foresight as all but one European entry, a mixed pair from Denmark, were gone by the WJC quarter-finals.

With so many of last year's winners having past the age cutoff, it isn't as clear how the seedings could be done for something like the 2007 Asian Juniors. There was a junior tournament in Germany but the Chinese didn't attend.

[Krisna]

Ooh, I see... That's what happened in the 2006 World Junior Championship. Fair enough. I think last year I did read something like what you wrote.

Some organizers do base their seeding due to past success bias... In the soccer World Cup, the successes of a particular nation in the previous World Cups are the base for seedings... Even though the past successes were done by that nation 4 years and 8 years before etc...

[AyiE666]

Seriously.. any info on TV/Satellite coverage on this tournament? Anyone..? :crying:

[Ching293]

>> ASTRO channel 80 star sports
<< Asian Junior Badminton Championship 2007
18 July 1400 Team Events Finals
22 July 2200 Individual Events Finals

[Krisna]

I will be following this Asian Junior Championship too...

From what I can see... the highest ranking WS in the draw are:
68. Fu Mingtian [SIN]
95. Gu Juan [SIN]
122. Porntip Buranaprasertsuk [THA]
125. Maria Febe Kusumastuti [INA]
--if only 4 WS are seeded, based purely on BWF ranking, then these girls are it--:D

Ok, it is now official! Maria Febe is seeded 4th! :D Febe defeated Fu Mingtian, 1st seed, handily a few weeks ago. I think she just need to watchout for the Korean and Chinese players... ;)

We can get the draw here: http://www.badmintonasia.org/event_details.aspx?eventID=81

[champion8]

Malaysia have more chances in the Boys double and the Mixed doubles. The singles looks tough for malaysia. Arif have a good draw but for the Ladies singles Lydia is having a tough draw. She will be meeting Liu Jie of China in the 3rd round. Vivien Hoo is also having a first round clash with China Unknown. :crying:

[Krisna]

I just heard that PBSI disqualified several INA players due to evidence in the forensic charts that indicate they did some 'age cheating'...

Yosis, Andhika, Natalia, Ade Riyadi...

So, for Boy's singles, INA will now have to rely on Nandang Arif [Tangkas] and Aditya Arifin [Jaya Raya]...

[Krisna]

For Girl's Singles, Maria Febe [Djarum], Febby Angguni [Djarum], and Alfa Vivianita [Djarum] passed the forensic tests and will go to KL. Lindaweni [Ragunan] passed the forensic tests but had no money to fly to KL, so she won't compete next week...

[PlayaFromMalaya]

can someone post the draws as attached images ?

[javaboy]

Greetings! Can anybody who has access to the results of the Games, please post the results and if possible the scores (especially Philippines). The morning sessions were already posted in Badminton Asia website, but its only the team tie results, maybe you can also post scores. Thanks and have a nice day

[event]

Greetings! Can anybody who has access to the results of the Games, please post the results and if possible the scores (especially Philippines). The morning sessions were already posted in Badminton Asia website, but its only the team tie results, maybe you can also post scores. Thanks and have a nice dayThis is the only one I can help you with but it seems to be the one you want.

Korea bt Philippines 5:0
XD Shin Baek-chul/Yoo Hyun-young bt RANAO, Mark Luther / PINEDA, Lynaira Ann
2:0 ( 21:4, 21:3)
GS Bae Youn-joo bt ALCALA, Malvinne Ann Venice
2:0 (21:10, 21:1)
BS Park Sung-min bt BUENDIA, Honesto Lll
2:0 ( 21:10, 21:8)
GD Yoo Hyun-young/Jung Kyung-eun bt GASPAR, Maria Lourdes/ CASTILO, Gelita
2:0 ( 21:6, 21:7)
BD Kim Ki-jung/Jung Eui-seok bt MAGNAYE, Peter Gabriel/ MAGNAYE, Patricque Francisco
2:0 ( 21:10, 21:11)

[javaboy]

Thank you very much ... event. I appreciate it very much. By the way, do you have or know where I can get results and scores oh Philippines vs Iraq in the eveing session? Any website? Again thanks!

[khwong]

Check this out :
http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/

[javaboy]

Thanks khwong! But I can't seem to find the results and scores LINK... Thanks anyway will just wait

[Krisna]

Phillipines won 5-0 over Iraq... :)

Indonesia won 5-0 over Macau... ;) Go Maria Febe!

[javaboy]

Thanks Krisna and Congrats! Yes I have seen the team results at badminton asia website, but do you now where I can get the scores of each game for the Phi v Iraq. Thanks again

[Krisna]

Yeah, I could not find the details either... Usually at the end of the tournament they give the full resutls... Sorry, for now, we have to be satisfied with the "big picture" results...

[javaboy]

Yup, I guess so... Again, thank you for replying, really appeciate the gesture. Indonesia is moving to the next round... congrats

[jeremykok]

what was the line up for MAS team? i know they won....anyway update me with the news on the quarter finals too

[Krisna]

MAS won't even play any quarterfinals game. They will go straight to the semis. Well, they are the host, after all...

[hcyong]

Team event semifinals:
MAS v JPN
CHN v INA

JPN knocked out KOR 3-2 in the QF. JPN is an up-and-rising badminton nation.

[Dreamzz]

yeah, the japanese did well to beat the koreans.
is lee yong dae too old to compete now or did he skip the championships on purpose?

in fact, looking back now at the china masters, i don't think any of the koreans participated at all!

[huangkwokhau]

Again, Maria Febe beat Fu Ming Tian in 3 sets..19-21,23-21,21-16...what a score!! bright future for Febe

[huangkwokhau]

yeah, the japanese did well to beat the koreans.
is lee yong dae too old to compete now or did he skip the championships on purpose?

in fact, looking back now at the china masters, i don't think any of the koreans participated at all!

Lee Yong Dae is just over 19....anyway....he is just too good for Junior,...;);)

[event]

Newsflash on Japan vs. Korea on Badzine. (http://www.badzine.info/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=414&Itemid=31&pop=1&page=0)


Lee Yong Dae is just over 19Not quite. But he will turn 19 on September 11th and is therefore not qualified.

[yannie]

Khim Wah-Hee Chun eye boys’ doubles crown

www.thestar.com.my (http://www.thestar.com.my)
Monday July 16, 2007

KUALA LUMPUR: The absence of Lee Yong-dae of South Korea has opened up the race for the boys' doubles title in the ongoing Rakan Sukan Yonex Sunrise Asian Junior Championships at the Juara Stadium in Bukit Kiara.

But top seeded Malaysians Lim Khim Wah-Mak Hee Chun, who were the semi-finalists at the last championships, do not want to overrate their chances.

Yesterday, Khim Wah and Hee Chun began their campaign in the mixed team event on a positive note. They played in different matches in the Group A tie against North Korea and helped Malaysia chalk up a 5-0 victory.

The 17-year-old Hee Chun formed a scratch boys' doubles partnership with Tan Wee Kiong while Khim Wah played in the mixed doubles, partnering Goh Liu Ying.

The individual events will start on Wednesday.

Hee Chun said that they had a tough draw in their bid to become the first Malaysian Asian junior champions in five years (the last Malaysian winners were Koo Kien Keat-Ong Soon Hock in 2002).

“We lost to Yong-dae (and Cho Gun-woo) last year. Yong-dae is no longer eligible to play in the championships but there are other top pairs from South Korea as well as from China. It will still be challenging,” said Hee Chun.

Last year, South Korea rode on the strength of Yong-dae to win the boys' doubles and mixed doubles.

“We may meet a Chinese pair (Qiu Zihan-Zhang Nan) in the second round. They are unseeded but we see them as the first real test for us,” said Hee Chun.

In the same quarter are South Koreans Kim Da-jung-Lee Jung-hwan, Singaporeans Jeffrey Wong-Chen Guo Rui and teammates Wee Kiong-Mohd Lutfi Zaim Abdul Khalid.

The other Malaysians in the fray are Ong Jien Guo-Goh Wei Shem and second seeds Mohd Arif Abdul Latif-Vountus Indra Mawan. Arif-Vountus were the runners-up last year.

“Malaysia have four pairs and all are eyeing to do well here in order to get selected for the World Junior Championships (in Auckland in November).

“I will give my best to try to win the title. But first, we will try to help Malaysia go one step better in the mixed team event.”

Last year, Malaysia lost to South Korea in the semi-finals of the mixed team competition.

Malaysia are the top seeds and coach Jeremy Gan said: “We should top our group and qualify directly into the semi-finals where we should meet South Korea. Our target is to reach the final.”

[yannie]

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2007/07/16
(http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)Badminton: Malaysia brush past North Korea (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)

By : K.M. Boopathy (boopathy@nst.com.my)

MALAYSIA, fielding their reserve singles and scratch pairs, overpowered North Korea 5-0 (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Sport/20070716081459/Article/index_html#) victory in the Asian Junior Championships mixed team event at the Juara Stadium in Kuala Lumpur yesterday.
Lim Fang Yang replaced Arif Latif but secured an comfortable 21 (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Monday/Sport/20070716081459/Article/index_html#)-13, 21-17 win over Yu Ho Cho in the boys’ singles.

In the girls’ singles, Vivian Hoo overcame Ju Pu Won 21-16, 21-10 while scratch pair Tan Wee Kiong-Mak Hee Chun convincingly beat Yu Ho Chol-Ri Un Nam 21-8, 21-10 in the boys’ doubles.

Woon Khe Wei-Ng Hui Lin were too strong for Ju Pon Won-Kim Ryon Mi winning 21-10, 21-6, while Khim Wah-Liu Ying beat Ri Un Nam-Kim Ryong Mi 21-8, 21-10 to make it 5-0 for Malaysia.

Malaysia, who finished runners-up to South Korea last year, are the top seeds in the tournament and are looking forward to winning their first team gold.

The hosts can advance to the semi-finals if they beat Taiwan today. As the top seeds, Malaysia have received a bye in the last eight and will advance straight to the semi-finals.

Results — Group A: Malaysia 5 North Korea 0 (Lim Fang Yang bt Yu Ho Chol 21-13, 21-7; Vivian Hoo bt Ju Pu Won 21-16, 21-10; Tan Wee Kiong-Mak Hee Chun bt Yu Ho Chol-Ri Un Nam 21-8, 21-10; Woon Khe Wei-Ng Hui Lin bt Ju Pon Won-Kim Ryon Mi 21-10, 21-6; Lim Khim Wah-Goh Liu Ying bt Ri Un Nam-Kim Ryong Mi 21-8, 21-10).

Group B: China 5 Brunei 0; Group C: Indonesia 5 Macau 0; Group D: South Korea 5 Philippines 0; Group E: Japan 4 Thailand 1; Group F: Singapore 3 Vietnam 2; Group G: Hong Kong 5 Cambodia 0.

[samuel882]

MAS won't even play any quarterfinals game. They will go straight to the semis. Well, they are the host, after all...

MAS as the top seeds which was choosen by BWF/ ABF for this competition...
Certainly the have the advantages on receiving a Bye in QF...
Furthermore.. They have more tougher Groups opponents than other's team.. They have PRK and TW for their company...

[badMania]

SEMI-FINALS:
MAS vs JPN
INA vs CHN

[tjl_vanguard]

when are they playin?? gosh... its not goin to be shown on tv.. grrrrrrrrr

[Krisna]

MAS as the top seeds which was choosen by BWF/ ABF for this competition...
Certainly the have the advantages on receiving a Bye in QF...
Furthermore.. They have more tougher Groups opponents than other's team.. They have PRK and TW for their company...

Ok ok... :p Then let's hope BWF will use the same team qualification format that can possibly let Indonesia go straight to the Semifinals in next year's Thomas Cup and Uber Cup in Jakarta, Indonesia! Without a quarterfinal match-up... ;)

BWF can put Indonesia in the same group as North Korea and Taiwan as well, for fairness and comparability... ;) and if (and only if) Indonesia defeats these very tough two teams, Indonesia may go straight to the semifinals, right? That is what is considered fair these days? :)

And then can Indonesia face Japan in the semifinals of Thomas Cup and Uber Cup too then? :D I like the new BWF's new definition of fairness... ;)

PS: By the way, it is BAC [not ABF]... ;)

[Krisna]

According to badmintonasia.org ...the semifinal status is as follows:

Malaysia leading Japan 2-0... er... does this mean that MAS won XD and BS? Kenichi Tago lost?!?

China leading Indonesia 2-0... mmm... so Alfiat-Richi lost their XD match?!? And then Nandang Arief lost Boy's Singles? Or did Maria Febe loose?

Can anyone confirm?!?

[Sandy]

I like the new BWF's new definition of fairness... ;)

PS: By the way, it is BAC [not ABF]... ;)

This is the 2nd time BAC made super weird drawing in team event with 3 groups, 7 groups :o
1st time is Asian Games 2006 team event :mad::o

and what's next event ?? :confused:

[KlasseE]

mas bt jpn 3:1
chn bt ina 3:0

[Krisna]

This is the 2nd time BAC made super weird drawing in team event with 3 groups, 7 groups :o
1st time is Asian Games 2006 team event :mad::o

and what's next event ?? :confused:

Next event? Thomas Cup and Uber Cup in Jakarta! I hope they do something wierd again in favor of the host nation, who's immediately ...next time that will gonna be us, Sandy... :D Ha ha ha...

I can picture it now...

Indonesia seeded 1st with no valid reason.... :p
Indonesia in the same group as South Africa, USA, and Australia.
Opponent in the quarterfinal: none! Because the 3 opponents in the group stage are the top countries of their continents [AFRICA, THE AMERICAS, OCEANIA], so they are considered very very very tough opponents!!!
Opponent in the semifinals, the winner between Japan vs. Taiwan/North Korea... :) Why not? Taiwan and North Korea are considered heavy contenders in the Asian Juniors, so they must be top Asian badminton powerhouses, right?!?
While in the other half, South Korea - Denmark - China - Malaysia - Thailand - Hong Kong - England - Holland have to fight it out! Because they are not as heavy opponents as "the top countries of all of Africa, the Americas, and the Oceania regions..." The ones that have to face the 1st seed, to validate not having to play any quarterfinal matches... :rolleyes: Ha ha ha...

[tjl_vanguard]

GREAT!!! Mas vs Chn showdown tomoro!!!!

[Hitman71]

On 19th (thursday) Astro will broadcast this event from 5:30pm to 9:30pm if I'm not mistaken.

[tjl_vanguard]

MAS as the top seeds which was choosen by BWF/ ABF for this competition...
Certainly the have the advantages on receiving a Bye in QF...
Furthermore.. They have more tougher Groups opponents than other's team.. They have PRK and TW for their company...
if i din get it wrong, ABF is Asian BOWLING Federation... hahaha i think so la.. :D

[tjl_vanguard]

Next event? Thomas Cup and Uber Cup in Jakarta! I hope they do something wierd again in favor of the host nation, who's immediately ...next time that will gonna be us, Sandy... :D Ha ha ha...

I can picture it now...

Indonesia seeded 1st with no valid reason.... :p
Indonesia in the same group as South Africa, USA, and Australia.
Opponent in the quarterfinal: none! Because the 3 opponents in the group stage are the top countries of their continents [AFRICA, THE AMERICAS, OCEANIA], so they are considered very very very tough opponents!!!
Opponent in the semifinals, the winner between Japan vs. Taiwan/North Korea... :) Why not? Taiwan and North Korea are considered heavy contenders in the Asian Juniors, so they must be top Asian badminton powerhouses, right?!?
While in the other half, South Korea - Denmark - China - Malaysia - Thailand - Hong Kong - England - Holland have to fight it out! Because they are not as heavy opponents as "the top countries of all of Africa, the Americas, and the Oceania regions..." The ones that have to face the 1st seed, to validate not having to play any quarterfinal matches... :rolleyes: Ha ha ha...
dude!! u're a big DREAMER!!! but who noes?? BWF seems to be out of their minds sometimes... :D

[Krisna]

dude!! u're a big DREAMER!!! but who noes?? BWF seems to be out of their minds sometimes... :D

Ha ha ha... :D I was just using the patterns that BWF/BAC set in this Asian Juniors. THEY must think their practice is logical and fair... :p So why not?!? Ha ha ha... ;) Bring on North Korea and Taiwan as our supposedly tough opponents!

[CYW2006]

On 19th (thursday) Astro will broadcast this event from 5:30pm to 9:30pm if I'm not mistaken.
Tomorrow 2pm ASTRO will showing the team matches....
and the individual will be showing at 10pm 22/7

[champion8]

i would said that the luck of the draw is based on the world ranking of the junior and malaysian junior comes out top. That is why Malaysia is top seed. I think Malaysia played well to enter final against Japan. Japan was in their fiery top form yesterday against Korea. China too have a relatively easy draw in the round robin and quarter final. Lets be fair... Indonesia too have an easy draw too.They too played well against China despite the fact they lost.

I hope Malaysia is able to overcome China tomorrow.

[Krisna]

Indonesia had an easy draw?!? :eek: But we were up against badminton superpowers Kazakhstan [that's where the great Borat came from... ;)] and Macau!?! Then, in the quarterfinals we had to play another dark horse challenger, Singapore... We were lucky to come out alive and play in the semifinals... :D

Ok ok, I was just kidding... :p Yes, champion8, I know the most probable reason why MAS got the #1 seeding is because of the World Rankings. Especially their XD, BD, and to a certain extent BS and GS. Still, INA would not mind the Malaysian luck once in a while... such as not playing a quarterfinals game... ;)

[Krisna]

CHN vs. INA
Chen Long vs. Nandang Arif 21-15, 21-17 :o ok, outclassed...
Liu Jie vs. Maria Febe 23-21, 20-22, 21-15 in 60 minutes... :crying:...tough loss
Wang Xiaoli-Li Tian vs. Alfiat-Richi 9-21, 21-12, 21-10 :crying: ...another close one...

[Krisna]

I hope Malaysia is able to overcome China tomorrow.

I think MAS has a 50% chance of overcoming CHN tomorrow... ;) This is my objective opinion. MAS can claim XD and BD. Lydia Cheah can beat Liu Jie...

[hcyong]

Indonesia had an easy draw?!? :eek: But we were up against badminton superpowers Kazakhstan [that's where the great Borat came from... ;)] and Macau!?! Then, in the quarterfinals we had to play another dark horse challenger, Singapore... We were lucky to come out alive and play in the semifinals... :D

Ok ok, I was just kidding... :p Yes, champion8, I know the most probable reason why MAS got the #1 seeding is because of the World Rankings. Especially their XD, BD, and to a certain extent BS and GS. Still, INA would not mind the Malaysian luck once in a while... such as not playing a quarterfinals game... ;)

Dude, I only read bitterness from you all day long. What's the big deal? The big favourites were Malaysia, Korea, China and Indonesia (as always) from the beginning anyway. Why grump over one extra match? If you can't dispatch of the others (like Korea, although Japan is the best of the rest), you can only blame yourself.

If you agree that Malaysia are the top seeds (at least technically), then it is normal that they get the QF bye. If China were the top seeds, I definitely won't begrudge them the bye.

Draws always turn up better for one than another. If the unlucky ones were to bemoan other people's luck all the time, then this whole forum would be filled with whinings.

[hcyong]

Next event? Thomas Cup and Uber Cup in Jakarta! I hope they do something wierd again in favor of the host nation, who's immediately ...next time that will gonna be us, Sandy... :D Ha ha ha...

I can picture it now...

Indonesia seeded 1st with no valid reason.... :p
Indonesia in the same group as South Africa, USA, and Australia.
Opponent in the quarterfinal: none! Because the 3 opponents in the group stage are the top countries of their continents [AFRICA, THE AMERICAS, OCEANIA], so they are considered very very very tough opponents!!!
Opponent in the semifinals, the winner between Japan vs. Taiwan/North Korea... :) Why not? Taiwan and North Korea are considered heavy contenders in the Asian Juniors, so they must be top Asian badminton powerhouses, right?!?
While in the other half, South Korea - Denmark - China - Malaysia - Thailand - Hong Kong - England - Holland have to fight it out! Because they are not as heavy opponents as "the top countries of all of Africa, the Americas, and the Oceania regions..." The ones that have to face the 1st seed, to validate not having to play any quarterfinal matches... :rolleyes: Ha ha ha...

Even though you made it out as though you were being funny, these are pretty serious insinuations. Basically, you are saying that Malaysia:
1. was seeded 1st with no apparent reason
2. got the easiest opponents on purpose
etc. etc. well, just read your own post above...

[blessing]

YES!! MAlaysia in the FINAL!!! YES!!!!! chance for gold...? jumping up n down.. lolz.... wakakak.. sigh... wateva.. jux keep our fingers cross.. hope for the best from them... muaha..

[hcyong]

This is the 2nd time BAC made super weird drawing in team event with 3 groups, 7 groups :o
1st time is Asian Games 2006 team event :mad::o

and what's next event ?? :confused:

It is a pretty strange one, I agree. But there aren't many alternatives if you have 21 teams and want to finish it within 3-4 days (or in 6 sessions).

The other alternatives:
1. 8 seeds. Some groups with 2 teams, some with 3. (But it means some groups just need one session to complete and others 3 sessions.)
2. Knock-out. 8 seeds, straight to last 16. The other 13 to be drawn, some straight against a seed, some to fight it out in a prior round. (But weak teams only have one match to play, and some players will not even play as the tie finishes at 3-0.)

and my fav: best second-placed team to play with the #1 seeds.

[Krisna]

Why grump over one extra match? If you agree that Malaysia are the top seeds (at least technically), then it is normal that they get the QF bye. If China were the top seeds, I definitely won't begrudge them the bye.



It is a pretty strange one, I agree. But there aren't many alternatives if you have 21 teams and want to finish it within 3-4 days (or in 6 sessions).

and my fav: best second-placed team to play with the #1 seeds.

I know full well that my comments and your comments won't change anything on what's going on there in KL... :p And of course we all know the luck of the draw can be hazardous. Just look at the comments of the MAS fans when earlier in the year 6 or 8 Malaysian pair were drawn to play in the same half of a Super Series... :p But I don't begrudge them either. It was an occasion for whining... A BC thread is designed to accept celebrations and occasional whinings... Just not X-rated comments and other politically incorrect abuses...

By the way it is not normal if there is only one team that get's a direct ticket to the semifinals. Even later on, you also said it was wierd... I just happen to laugh about its wierdness in my own way. Apparently some organizers don't think it was wierd enough.

For me, if very early in a 64 player knockout draw only the first seed like Lin Dan get a bye, that's not wierd. But after a group stage, then only 1 team get's a free ticket to the semis while the other six have to fight it out... umm... no further comments lah. I've made my point earlier...

Let's just not be alarmed if BWF/BAC do the same [I]wierdly favorable things to INA next time, ok? ;)

[hcyong]

I know full well that my comments and your comments won't change anything on what's going on there in KL... :p And of course we all know the luck of the draw can be hazardous. Just look at the comments of the MAS fans when earlier in the year 6 or 8 Malaysian pair were drawn to play in the same half of a Super Series... :p But I don't begrudge them either. It was an occasion for whining... A BC thread is designed to accept celebrations and occasional whinings... Just not X-rated comments and other politically incorrect abuses...


It depends on how you whine, doesn't it? You can whine about your own luck for a bit, but if you start making up conspiracy theories, favouritisms etc., that's a bit too much.



By the way it is not normal if there is only one team that get's a direct ticket to the semifinals. Even later on, you also said it was wierd... I just happen to laugh about its wierdness in my own way. Apparently some organizers don't think it was wierd enough.


This kind of format is not normal. But if it was going to be like that, then it is normal that the top seeds get the bye. Don't take my quotes out of context.



For me, if very early in a 64 player knockout draw only the first seed like Lin Dan get a bye, that's not wierd. But after a group stage, then only 1 team get's a free ticket to the semis while the other six have to fight it out... umm... no further comments lah. I've made my point earlier...


It's not a free ticket. The group, whether hard or easy, still had to be won. As for the QF, just imagine there are only 7 teams taking part. Who should get the bye then?

Yes, I think the best second-placed team should be in the QF, but your point was that this was purposely done to favour MAS. I take exception to that. I don't think BAC is that biased towards a single country. If CHN or INA were the top seeds, they would have gotten the QF bye.



Let's just not be alarmed if BWF/BAC do the same [I]wierdly favorable things to INA next time, ok? ;)

There goes another conspiracy theory. You're insinuating that this whole tournament was made weirdly favorable for MAS by BAC.

You can say that BAC made an error by using that sort of format, but accussing them of favoritism is close to libelous.

You can say that MAS were lucky to be seeded top or were lucky to get an easy draw, but to say they did well because they conspired with BAC to get a favorable draw is very unfair to MAS.

[Krisna]

There goes another conspiracy theory. You're insinuating that this whole tournament was made weirdly favorable for MAS by BAC.

Oh I see... you're taking this way too seriously. Ok I won't comment further on this matter... I have my own strong opinion on this matter, you may have yours. That's it. I see no incentive for me in making you feel angry, hcyong... :)

Let's just talk about more badminton action at Asian Junior then... :)

[ants]

I hope Malaysia will WIN! Malaysia Boleh.

[yannie]

The Star Online
Tuesday July 17, 2007

Junior shuttlers storm into Yonex final

KUALA LUMPUR: Malaysia stormed into the final of the mixed badminton team event for the second year in a row in the Rakan Sukan Yonex Sunrise Asian Junior Championships at the Juara Stadium in Bukit Kiara on Tuesday.

But there was little joy for girls' top singles shuttler Lydia Cheah.
The 18-year-old Lydia, who was the last year's Asian Junior runner-up, failed to contribute a point in Malaysia's 3-1 win over Japan.

Lydia went down to Uchida Sizuka 9-21, 21-7, 19-21 in a 40-minute battle.
Malaysia had earlier taken a 2-0 lead after winning points through the mixed doubles pair of Tan Wee Kiong-Woon Khe Wei and the country's top boys' singles shuttler Mohd Arif Abdul Latif.

Wee Kiong-Khe Wei recovered from a jittery start for a 19-21, 21-11, 21-9 win against the Japanese scratch partnership of Asian junior boys' singles champion Tago Kenichi-Uchida.

The 18-year-old Arif staved off a late comeback from Japan's second-ranked junior Takeshita Riichi for a 21-7, 21-19 win.

The girls' doubles pair of Ng Hui Lin-Goh Liu Ying, dubbed the weakest link of the Malaysian team, had a great attacking game to beat Miki Yuriko-Kakiiwa Reika 21-12, 21-14 in 25 minutes to wrap-up the tie for Malaysia.

Malaysia will take on China, who had to fight hard for a 3-0 win over Indonesia, in the final on Wednesday.

Last year, Malaysia lost to South Korea in the final.

[yannie]

I hope China wins, but I can't post Chinese news since it's written in Chinese. ZHONG GUO DUI JIA YOU!!!

[yannie]

NST Online (http://www.nst.com.my/NST/index_html) » Sport (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)
2007/07/17
(http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)Badminton: Clearer path to final (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)

MALAYSIA’S task of advancing to the Asian Junior Championships mixed team final was made easier when Japan secured a sensational 3-2 upset win over holders South Korea in the quarter-finals at Juara Stadium yesterday.

Malaysia had earlier completed their preliminary Group A tie with a 5-0 (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/Sport/20070717101830/Article/index_html#) victory over Taiwan and proceeded straight to the semi-finals by virtue of being the top seeds.

Only seven teams advanced to the knockout stage and favourites Malaysia automatically moved into the semi-finals and will now face Japan today.

In the match against Taiwan, Arif Latif saw action for the first time when he defeated Chou Tien Chen 25-23, 21 (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Tuesday/Sport/20070717101830/Article/index_html#)-10 while Lydia Cheah defeated Hung Shih Han 21-16, 21-15 in the girls’ singles.

In the boys’ doubles, Lim Khim Wah-Mak Hee Chun beat Chen Po Hsuan-Wang Yan Pang 21-13, 21-10 while Ng Hui Lin-Goh Liu Ying defeated Peng Hsiou Choo-Wu Yun Ting 21-9, 21-19 in the girls’ doubles.
Wee Kiong-Khe Wei completed the rout when they defeated Cheng Wan Hui-Lee Cheng Wei 21-12, 21-15 in the mixed doubles.

However, Malaysia need to be cautious against Japan as the have two quality shuttlers in Kenichi Tago in the boys’ singles and Shizuka Uchida (girls’ singles).

Kenichi won the boys’ singles title in the tournament last year where he defeated Arif in the semi-finals while Shizuka’s shock victory over World Junior runner-up Bae Youn Joo helped Japan upset the Koreans yesterday.

However, Malaysia look strong in the doubles where Khim Wah-Hee Chun, Hui Lin-Liu Ying and Wee Kiong-Khe Wei should help Malaysia reach the final for the second time.

Second seeds China thrashed Hong Kong 3-0 in the quarter-finals and will meet Indonesia, who beat Singapore 3-1, in the last four today.

Results — Group A: Malaysia 5 Taiwan 0 (Arif Latif bt Chou Tien Chen 25-23, 21-10; Lydia Cheah bt Hung Shih Han 21-16, 21-15; Lim Khim Wah-Mak Hee Chun bt Chen Po Hsuan-Wang Yan Pang 21-13, 21-10; Ng Hui Lin-Goh Liu Ying bt Peng Hsiou Choo-Wu Yun Ting 21-9, 21-19; Tan Wee Kiong-Woon Khe Wei bt Cheng Wan Hui-Lee Cheng Wei 21-12, 21-15).

Q-Finals: Japan 3 South Korea 2; Indonesia 3 Singapore 1; China 3 Hong Kong 0.

[hcyong]

From both singles and girls' doubles, it looks likely that China will just have enough to win. But it is tight.

[hcyong]

Oh I see... you're taking this way too seriously. Ok I won't comment further on this matter... I have my own strong opinion on this matter, you may have yours. That's it. I see no incentive for me in making you feel angry, hcyong... :)

Let's just talk about more badminton action at Asian Junior then... :)

Don't get me wrong. This is not a personal attack against you. I know that you were being only half serious. However, I feel that someone has to speak out when such wild accusations are repeatedly levelled against BAC and MAS. If not, people reading this thread may indeed think that there really is an intention by BAC to get MAS an easy draw.

[Krisna]

If not, people reading this thread may indeed think that there really is an intention by BAC to get MAS an easy draw.

Well [in a straight forward manner] I think BAC this time did choose a system that favor the host and not to the benefit of overall Asian Badminton. I really think so. Whether that was intentional or unintentional, only those BAC officials really know.

BWF is also ambiguous about the definition of Junior seedings. World Ranking Points are only one benchmark, past accomplishments in non-World Ranking events are also taken into account, but how they are accounted is not stated in black and white. Just observe their decisions on the Junior World Championship last year. Bewildering...

I think next time if there are 21 teams playing, then it is better to have 4 groups and each group will produce 2 quarterfinalists each. Each group will have one 1st-rate seed, one 2nd-rate seed. Yes, the consequences are:

3 groups will have 5 teams, meaning, each team will play 4 times (2 games a day for 2 days)
one of the group will have 6 teams, each team in that group plays 5 times.
the team event have to be extended probably an extra 2 days (more cost for the host, surely...)
this model was chosen by FIFA in the selection towards the World Cup etc. Some groups might have unequal number of teams playing in their qualifying stages too.Benefit:

more playing time and experience for Junior players from Kazakhstan, Macau, Philippines, Bahrain etc. :)
more competitive match experiences are exactly what the Juniors need and seek anyway... ;)
quarterfinals will be played by 8 teams.

[hcyong]

Well [in a straight forward manner] I think BAC this time did choose a system that favor the host and not to the benefit of overall Asian Badminton. I really think so. Whether that was intentional or unintentional, only those BAC officials really know.


Firstly, it does not favour the host. It favours the top seeds (which happens to be the host). There is a difference.

And secondly, it is only a small advantage.



BWF is also ambiguous about the definition of Junior seedings. World Ranking Points are only one benchmark, past accomplishments in non-World Ranking events are also taken into account, but how they are accounted is not stated in black and white. Just observe their decisions on the Junior World Championship last year. Bewildering...


This I agree with you. But it is a tough job to seed the juniors. We know that using the world ranking alone can be wildly inaccurate. I think BWF should have certain guidelines in seeding the juniors. You cannot just seed by feeling. Just that they do not publish the guideline. BWF has a problem publishing its guidelines. Even the world ranking system is not totally updated.



I think next time if there are 21 teams playing, then it is better to have 4 groups and each group will produce 2 quarterfinalists each. Each group will have one 1st-rate seed, one 2nd-rate seed. Yes, the consequences are:

3 groups will have 5 teams, meaning, each team will play 4 times (2 games a day for 2 days)
one of the group will have 6 teams, each team in that group plays 5 times.
the team event have to be extended probably an extra 2 days (more cost for the host, surely...)
this model was chosen by FIFA in the selection towards the World Cup etc. Some groups might have unequal number of teams playing in their qualifying stages too.Benefit:

more playing time and experience for Junior players from Kazakhstan, Macau, Philippines, Bahrain etc. :)
more competitive match experiences are exactly what the Juniors need and seek anyway... ;)
quarterfinals will be played by 8 teams.

A group with 5 teams also needs 5 sessions to finish.
Total group ties - 45. Each session needs 9 courts.
I would prefer this system too if given enough time and courts. But I don't know what constraints the host have, so I can't comment.

[Sandy]

Easy win by XD MAS Tan Wee Kiong-Woon Khe Wei d Li Tian/Wang Xiao Li 21-15 21-8

surprised watched XD China, played in old double style, too defencive and lift the ball high too much. They got trouble against XD MAS who keep play in fast drive way.

Lydia lead Liu Jie 21-18 17-14 from 7-14

[Sandy]

Lydia Cheah d Liu Jie 21-18 21-17

Liu Jie looked very tired in this match, no expression on her face when came into the court

[Misty100]

Damnnnn... Astro halted transmittion half way thru' the Boys Singles... Arif leading at 14:4 from Chen Long, first game.

[Misty100]

Damnnnn... Astro halted transmittion half way thru' the Boys Singles... Arif leading at 14:4 from Chen Long, first game.

Wasn't raining for the past many days, too bad it had to rain today when there is a live telecast.

[rwchen]

Wasn't raining for the past many days, too bad it had to rain today when there is a live telecast.

From the results, it seems that Malaysian players are in smashing form and they should be able to achieve the historic feat of becoming the team champion. How were the matches? Any up and coming players that impressed you ?

[Sandy]

3rd match Arif v Chen Long

Arif played fast and good reflex remind me LCW's style and Chen didn't find to solve it and left behind 2-14.
Chen showed his mental strong, play patiently to leveled 19-19, one wide smashed by Chen Long made 19-20. Very closed Arif's netting ball close the set 21-19 by Arif

more high tension in 2nd set, Chen allways left the score until 8-11 and cath it to 16-16 and lead 18-16. Arif played smartly in this point by pulled the ball to bh back side of Chen combine with netting took 4 pts and lead 20-18. Chen levelled again and save 2 championships pts to 20-20. Wide crossing by Chen and fast reflex of Arif closed the match to be 22-20.

Arif beat Chen Long 21-19, 22-20

MAS def CHN 3-0

[jasonmarc]

sO......wOW......MAS juniors are the team CHAMPION.....Congrat.....it showed that the 1st. Seeding ....is given not becaus of bias...like Krisna presumed....this result proof it ......MAS junior mixed team is the best at this moment in ASIA........Hey Krisna would you like to congratulate us...MAS...Hehehehe..

[Krisna]

Firstly, it does not favour the host. It favours the top seeds (which happens to be the host). There is a difference.

And secondly, it is only a small advantage.

Still so serious, hcyong?!? Ok, I will entertain you one more time on this topic... in a serious manner, this time... since I respect you as a fellow BC member... :)

:confused: :confused: Uhm, were those comments [above] made to make us see that BAC is correct this time? :confused: :confused: If yes, well of course I don't agree with you. Yes it does favor the host because the seeding is up to BAC/BWF [since they have no clearly stated guideline] and whoever is in charge there in KL... before we know it, without transparent guidelines, the host is also the top seed, :eek: :eek: thus getting advantages... pretty smooth ....but still unfair!

Small advantage / big advantage...?!? :confused: Wah, ok that's another discussion right there... I don't think this is the place for it. If you consider it small, then I happen to have a different parameter of fairness than you... In my opinion, ....

getting a day off and free semifinal seat
vs.
playing a competitive team who have a shot at beating them

...matters. Seriously, if I were the organizers I would not do it because it is unfair towards the other teams.

If they want to make the 2007 Asian Junior format as the rightful format, then I think it is wrong. Next time if the Asian Junior happens in Jakarta, and the situation is similarly favorable to INA, then I shall blatantly admit the system is biased towards the host, INA. I have no problem with saying that because the current opaque system used is just plainly wrong...

Solution:
Through observation, the main problem with the system BAC uses right now is not consistent, not clear, and not decisive. Too much 'judgement' made by the event organizers which can easily be abused or scrutinized. To make it clear, consistent, and decisive, capable BAC [and BWF] officials from various countries should all sit together, agree, and then publish a better-clear-fixed-understandable guideline for Junior Championships. This system should include a better seedings basis for Juniors championships etc. Which will be the basis for future tournaments.

[rwchen]

3rd match Arif v Chen Long

Arif beat Chen Long 21-19, 22-20

MAS def CHN 3-0

Malaysia trounced China 3-0, what an achievement! The juniors surprised me, winning by 3-0 and did not even drop a game.Let's see how they fare in the individual events.

[Krisna]

sO......wOW......MAS juniors are the team CHAMPION.....Congrat.....it showed that the 1st. Seeding ....is given not becaus of bias...like Krina presumed....this result proof it ......MAS junior mixed team is the best at this moment in ASIA........

Congratulations jasonmarc.... :)

I just think the system could be better designed... Otherwise someone [not me, this time... don't kill me.. :D] can point out: well... MAS won because they had a rest session while everyone else had to toil and use up energy playing at the quarterfinals...

[Misty100]

All the 3 matches ended in straight games... 3:0 MAS champion!

[jasonmarc]

All the 3 matches ended in straight games... 3:0 MAS champion!

Yes, thats becos MAS have more time to rest..while other team so tired playing in QF.....like 'some people' would say..:rolleyes:....any way....a win is a win......joys.:D:D:D

[Misty100]

Chen Long stand a head taller than Arif... he looks like a future champion from his physique, very nice built, but the smaller player holds the upper hand with his agility and great skills.

[Sandy]

Congratulations jasonmarc.... :)

I just think the system could be better designed... Otherwise someone [not me, this time... don't kill me.. :D] can point out: well... MAS won because they had a rest session while everyone else had to toil and use up energy playing at the quarterfinals...

The problems if BAC didn't have fixed format in some team's event like this tournament or Asian Games.
In the normal system, number of group should be 4 or 8. With 21 team isn't big problem, they could hold Elimination Round.
For example 10 lowest rank team play in Elimination Round (5 matches), the winner joint to main division (16 team) and the 5 loser teams play in lower division.

[Misty100]

Liu Jie was leading Lydia 12:6 in the 2nd game but I don't know what struck her, she lost 9 points in a row to Lydia... but she never recovers, losing the match 21:18, 21:17. But Lydia was cool, she control her game well to win.

[markchan]

Congrats to the MAS team. Superb form today. Both Lydia adn Arif avenged their defeats to the chinese singles players.
Let's hope they keep up the momentum.
Trivia : I noted that both Chen Hong and LinDan were past winners. Did LCW ever took part in the Asian Juniors??

[markchan]

Congratulations jasonmarc.... :)

I just think the system could be better designed... Otherwise someone [not me, this time... don't kill me.. :D] can point out: well... MAS won because they had a rest session while everyone else had to toil and use up energy playing at the quarterfinals...

Hehe...in that case, if ever anyone won any tournament by playing 1 less match are not considered true champions? Let's start with FHF/CY in the recent China Masters... they got a w/o...

[jasonmarc]

Lets hope MAS will continue the momentum in the individual events....

[hcyong]

:confused: :confused: Uhm, were those comments [above] made to make us see that BAC is correct this time? :confused: :confused: If yes, well of course I don't agree with you. Yes it does favor the host because the seeding is up to BAC/BWF [since they have no clearly stated guideline] and whoever is in charge there in KL... before we know it, without transparent guidelines, the host is also the top seed, :eek: :eek: thus getting advantages... pretty smooth ....but still unfair!


I did not say BAC is correct. I am merely trying to state that there is no proof BAC intentionally give the host a better draw, which is what you have been drumming about yesterday, and it is a pretty serious accusation.

Just because they don't publish the guideline does not mean they have no guidelines. Accuse them of slacking, of lacking in transparency, but please, not of rigging the seeding and the draw.

Just because the host is the top seed does not mean the host does not deserve it.



Small advantage / big advantage...?!? :confused: Wah, ok that's another discussion right there... I don't think this is the place for it. If you consider it small, then I happen to have a different parameter of fairness than you... In my opinion, ....

getting a day off and free semifinal seat
vs.
playing a competitive team who have a shot at beating them

...matters. Seriously, if I were the organizers I would not do it because it is unfair towards the other teams.


MAS did not get a day off, but it got a night off.
Which other team has a shot (besides INA, CHN, KOR and JPN) has a shot at beating MAS?

I agree with you with the unfairness of the format, but I disagree with the magnitude. You make it sound as though MAS had a walkover to the final.

But by far my biggest disagreement with you is when you baselessly said BAC intentionally favoured the host by giving them the top seeding and rigging the draw and format of them event.



If they want to make the 2007 Asian Junior format as the rightful format, then I think it is wrong. Next time if the Asian Junior happens in Jakarta, and the situation is similarly favorable to INA, then I shall blatantly admit the system is biased towards the host, INA. I have no problem with saying that because the current opaque system used is just plainly wrong...


Absolutely agree.



Solution:
Through observation, the main problem with the system BAC uses right now is not consistent, not clear, and not decisive. Too much 'judgement' made by the event organizers which can easily be abused or scrutinized. To make it clear, consistent, and decisive, capable BAC [and BWF] officials from various countries should all sit together, agree, and then publish a better-clear-fixed-understandable guideline for Junior Championships. This system should include a better seedings basis for Juniors championships etc. Which will be the basis for future tournaments.

Absolutely agree.

[hsengsping]

Congratulations jasonmarc.... :)

I just think the system could be better designed... Otherwise someone [not me, this time... don't kill me.. :D] can point out: well... MAS won because they had a rest session while everyone else had to toil and use up energy playing at the quarterfinals...

I agree that the system should be better and the seeding more transparent.

It is however callous to denigrate a decent performance from a team whose members played with really a lot of heart today. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the tournament structure, a bunch of young badminton players had to slug it out as well as they could and it is not their fault the structure was as it was. Lets not take it from them.

[Krisna]

....a win is a win......joys.:D:D:D

Ha ha ha! Congrats to the MAS Junior players... they had nothing to do with designing the system... They just played and ...win! :cool: :D

[chin511]

ya..i proud of you, Malaysian junior team!!!!keep going on!!

[Krisna]

Well [in a straight forward manner] I think BAC this time did choose a system that favor the host and not to the benefit of overall Asian Badminton. I really think so. Whether that was intentional or unintentional, only those BAC officials really know.




But by far my biggest disagreement with you is when you baselessly said BAC intentionally favoured the host by giving them the top seeding and rigging the draw and format of them event.


Oooh, you don't need to disagree with me on that particular matter. I myself already admit I don't really know whether it is intentional / unintentional... :p Just look at my post before... Of course I don't consider my observation baseless, like you mention, just look at the systemic facts (due to the initial design flaws that we have discussed) and the obvious resulting advantages and inequity (however small/big)...

Only the BAC officials and organizers in charge know the truth... ;) Unless you are the person/team in charge, you don't really know either...

[Krisna]

I agree that the system should be better and the seeding more transparent.

It is however callous to denigrate a decent performance from a team whose members played with really a lot of heart today. Whatever the rights or wrongs of the tournament structure, a bunch of young badminton players had to slug it out as well as they could and it is not their fault the structure was as it was. Lets not take it from them.

I agree... :) The MAS Junior players had nothing to do with it. They just played and played... :)

[javaboy]

Whatever is said and done... you have to beat china to win the championship. And malaysia did! CONGRATS!!!

[ixory]

Haha..congratulation to Malaysian Junior....our badminton future..

[ixory]

http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2007/0719/Utusan_Malaysia/Sukan/su_02_big.jpg
source :Utusan Malaysia

[Dreamzz]

http://www.utusan.com.my/pix/2007/0719/Utusan_Malaysia/Sukan/su_02_big.jpg
source :Utusan Malaysia



welll well well, good job from our juniors. hopefully this'll translate to a better senior's performance in the future. anyone care to enlighten us as to who these people actually are? most of us have never seen them before.

[jeremykok]

the boys from left : lim fang yang, lim khim wah, mak hee chun, arif latif and tan wee kiong
the girls from left : goh liu ying, vivian hoo, woon khe wei, lydia cheah and ng hui lin

[JasonMichael]

the boys from left : lim fang yang, lim khim wah, mak hee chun, arif latif and tan wee kiong
the girls from left : goh liu ying, vivian hoo, woon khe wei, lydia cheah and ng hui lin

Woon Khe Wei's father plays badminton every friday(and wednesday) at Subang Racquet and golf... Very good player... Sometimes I play some singles and doubles with him... Won some good matchs partnering him as well :).
Very fit for some one at age 50.

[khwong]

Woon Khe Wei's father plays badminton every friday(and wednesday) at Subang Racquet and golf... Very good player... Sometimes I play some singles and doubles with him... Won some good matchs partnering him as well :).
Very fit for some one at age 50.
So when is JasonMichael's son or daughter playing for MAS?:D

[JasonMichael]

So when is JasonMichael's son or daughter playing for MAS?:D


probably 20 years time... aiyoh... dunno lah... dont have children and not married yet lar...haha...

[javaboy]

Any news from individual events? Maybe anybody knows results of Girl's Singles where Philippines is playing. Thanks

[Sandy]

Thursday, 19 July 2007


501 XD MAS TAN, Wee Kiong [1] bt VIE DUONG, Bao Duc 21-17, 21-13 20
MAS WOON, Khe Wei VIE VU, Thi Trang (B)
502 XD CHN ZHANG, Nan bt HKG WONG, Wing Ki 21-16, 21-19 25
CHN XIE, Jing HKG TSE, Ying Suet
503 XD MAS MOHD ISMAIL, Muhd Syawal bt PHI RANAO, Mark Luther 21-5, 21-7 14
MAS ONG, Boon Hui PHI PINEDA, Lynaira Ann
504 XD INA SAPUTRA Albert bt IND VIJAY, Ram C 21-10, 21-13 15
INA Krisabella IND MISHA, Ruth
505 XD KOR LEE, Jung Hwan [5/8] bt SIN NG, Zong Ren 21-4, 21-8 13
KOR LEE, Se Rang SIN THNG, Ting Ting
506 XD MAS CHOOI, Kah Ming bt TPE WANG, Yan Pang 21-19, 21-18 23
MAS HO, Bee Ling TPE KAO, Hua
507 XD MAS MAWAN, Vountus Indra bt BRU PG. HJ. ISMAIL, Ak. Abd. Halim 21-8, 21-8 15
MAS YEOW, Mie Xie BRU SALLEH Siti Marinah
508 XD THA ISARA, Bodin bt JPN SONODA, Keigo 21-17, 21-17 25
THA SANLEKANUN, Nuttaya JPN DOI, Anna
509 XD KOR KIM, Ki Jung [3/4] bt MAS GOH, Jian Hao 21-11, 21-19 21
KOR JUNG, Kyung Eun MAS YEE, Li Jin
510 XD TPE CHENG, Hao Yu bt IND NANDALURI, Arun 18-21, 21-9, 21-9 30
TPE PENG, Hsiao Chu IND SOSALE, Nithya
511 XD SIN YEO, Zhao Jiang Terry bt MAC LEI, Kit 21-7, 21-11 17
SIN YAO, Lei MAC LAO, I Kuan
512 XD CHN QIU, Zihan bt MAS KUAN, Kam Chung 21-16, 21-16 25
CHN LIN, Shen MAS KUAN, Kam Chung
513 XD INA WIRAWAN, Afiat Yuris [5/8] bt JPN KAMURA, Takeshi 21-11, 21-16 23
INA DILI, Puspita Richi JPN KAKIIWA, Reika
514 XD THA UTTAMANG, Wasapon bt JOR SALEH, Mohammad Nashat won by walkover 5
JOR MAZAHREH, Leina Fehmi Thyab JOR MAZAHREH, Leina Fehmi Thyab
515 XD MAS LAU, Win Hwi bt SRI LADDU, Udara Nayanajith 21-19, 21-15 20
MAS CHONG, Vee Vian SRI PERERA, Malabage Gayani Anuththar
516 XD VIE NGUYEN, Ngoc Tung bt IRQ ABDULRAHMAN, Abbas 21-9, 21-4 12
VIE NGUYEN, Thi Hong Anh IRQ ABDULLAH, Hadel.H.
517 XD IND REDDY, Sument bt BAN LALCHAND, Lalchand 21-13, 21-14 17
IND PONANAPPA, Ashwini BAN SHAPLA, Shapla Aktar
518 XD PHI MAGNAYE, Patricque Francisco bt BAN SHOYAIB, Abdullah Al Shoyaib 21-8, 21-12 18
PHI GASPAR, Maria Lourdes BAN ALINA, Alina Sultanah
519 XD HKG CHAN, Tsz Kit bt MAC LAM, Chi Man 17-21, 21-19, 23-21 34
HKG CHEUNG, Ngan Yi MAC IP, Cheng Teng
520 XD CHN LI, Tian bt MAS ABDUL KHALID, Mohd Lutfi Zaim [5/8] 21-19, 19-21, 21-11 45
CHN WANG, Xiaoli MAS GOH, Liu Ying
521 XD JPN SATO, Rei bt CAM TROEUNG, Veasna 21-8, 21-12 17
JPN MIKI, Yuriko CAM NOEUR, Sodany
522 XD TPE LEE, Cheng Wei bt CAM TEAV, Yongvannak 21-9, 21-14 18
TPE CHENG, Wan Hui CAM CHAN, Dara
523 XD SIN THNG, Boon Seong bt MAS YEOH, Chong Yee 21-18, 21-18 25
SIN POO, Jill Vanessa MAS LIM, Ee Von
524 XD KOR SHIN, Baek Cheol [3/4] bt VIE PHAM, Cao Hieu 21-10, 21-4 15
KOR YOO, Hyun Young VIE NGUYEN, Thi Sen
525 XD PRK YU, Ho Chol bt KAZ YERZHAKANOV, Samat 21-16, 22-20 20
PRK JU, Pu Won KAZ YAKOVLEVA, Yelizaveta
526 XD MAS GOH, Wei Shem bt THA PHAISANSOMSUK, Suwat 21-17, 21-18 18
MAS SANIRU, Sannatasah THA TAERATANACHAI, Sapsiree
527 XD VIE PHAM, Ngoc Thiet bt SRI HETTIARACHCHI, Nuwan Dananjaya 21-8, 21-18 20
VIE PHI, Thi Quynh Mai SRI KAPURU MUDIYANSELAGE, Achini
528 XD INA WINDARTO, Wifqi [5/8] bt HKG TONG, Tin Yau 21-12, 21-7 15
INA SUSANTO, Debby HKG POON, Lok Yan
529 XD JPN WADA, Shu bt SRI DAHANAYAKE, Ranjitha Sandeepana 21-14, 21-10 20
JPN MATSUTOMO, Misaki SRI YAPA DAHANAYAKE, Subodha Kumari
530 XD CHN CHAI, Biao bt SIN WONG, H C Jeffrey 21-7, 21-12 18
CHN ZHONG, Qianxin SIN MOK, Jing Qiong
531 XD TPE CHENG, Po Hsuan bt MAS PANG, Zheng Lin 21-18, 22-20 29
TPE WU, Yun Ting MAS ONG, Jin Er Yvonne
532 XD MAS LIM, Khim Wah [2] bt KOR KIM, Da Jung 21-18, 21-17 27
MAS NG, Hui Lin KOR EOM, Hye Won

201 GS SIN FU, Mingtian [1] bt JPN KURIHARA, Ayane 21-5, 21-16 30
202 GS INA VIVIANITA, Alfa bt IRI SHAKIBA, Elahe 21-4, 21-9 18
203 GS KOR JOO, Eun Ae bt MAS FOONG, Yi Xin [9/16] 21-13, 21-16 30
204 GS TPE LIU, I Chin bt PHI CASTILO, Gelita 21-14, 21-10 24
205 GS MAS SANIRU, Sannatasah [5/8] bt VIE VU, Thi Trang (B) 21-12, 16-21, 21-12 35
206 GS IND NAQVI, Parssa bt VIE PHI, Thi Quynh Mai 21-19, 14-21, 21-11 35
207 GS CHN WANG, Shixian [9/16] bt HKG CHEUNG, Ngan Yi 21-16, 21-13 30
208 GS SRI KAPURU MUDIYANSELAGE, Achini Nimeshika bt CAM NOEUR, Sodany 21-3, 21-3 10
209 GS INA KUSUMASTUTI, Maria Febe [3/4] bt MAS ONG, Boon Hui 21-10, 21-5 20
210 GS JPN UCHIDA, Shizuka bt IND P.C., Thulasi 21-13, 21-13 23
211 GS KOR BAE, Youn Joo [9/16] bt TPE HUNG, Shih Han 21-11, 21-12 30
212 GS IND PANTAWANE, Arundhati bt HKG TSE, Ying Suet 19-21, 23-21, 21-18 36
213 GS SIN ZHANG, Beiwen [5/8] bt MAC IP, Cheng Teng 21-4, 21-15 14
214 GS VIE NGUYEN, Thi Sen bt MAC IAO, Mei Ha 21-6, 21-6 17
215 GS CHN LIU, Xin bt MAS HOO, Kah Mun Vivian [9/16] 21-18, 21-8 25
216 GS THA TAERATANACHAI, Sapsiree bt PRK JU, Pu Won 21-4, 21-10 18
217 GS PRK KIM, Ryon Mi bt BRU SALLEH Siti Marinah 21-14, 21-11 21
218 GS CHN LIU, Jie [9/16] bt IRQ HAZEM, Ula Sabri 21-3, 21-3 13
219 GS JPN DOI, Anna bt SRI YAPA DAHANAYAKE, Subodha Kumari 21-11, 21-10 18
220 GS MAS CHEAH, Li Ya Lydia [5/8] bt HKG POON, Lok Yan 21-11, 21-11 25
221 GS JPN MATSUTOMO, Misaki bt JOR AL-KHALIFE, Razan Khaled Mohammad 21-6, 21-9 15
222 GS KOR CHOI, Ha Na bt SIN THNG, Ting Ting [9/16] 21-15, 21-9 22
223 GS INA ANGGUNI, Febby bt PHI PINEDA, Lynaira Ann 21-12, 21-6 20
224 GS THA BURANAPRASERTSUK, Porntip [3/4] bt SRI PERERA, Malabage Gayani Anuththar 21-10, 21-9 18
225 GS IND REDDY, Siki bt PHI ALCALA, Malvinne Ann Venice 21-7, 21-13 17
226 GS HKG CHAN, Tsz Ka bt TPE CHIANG, Pei Hsing [9/16] 12-21, 21-10, 21-19 41
227 GS VIE PHUNG, Nguyen Phuong Nhi bt BAN ALINA, Alina Sultana 21-9, 21-7 15
228 GS MAS TEE, Jing Yi [5/8] bt JPN NOJIRINO, Masayo 21-14, 18-21, 21-17 40
229 GS KAZ YAKOVLEVA, Yelizaveta bt BAN SHAPLA, Shapla Aktar 21-12, 17-21, 21-14 25
230 GS MAS CHASE, Currier Tiffany [9/16] bt MAC LEE, Wing Ki Joyce 21-5, 21-10 15
231 GS CHN LI, Xuerui bt KOR SUNG, Ji Hyun 21-13, 21-7 20
232 GS SIN GU, Juan [2] bt MAS NG, Sin Er 21-9, 21-10 20

[javaboy]

Sandy, thank you very much for the info. I really appreciate it. Hope you can keep on posting results. We need to be updated with our players, since its their 1st overseas real tournament and most of them are below 15 years old. Thaks again

[blessing]

good joB juNIors.. lets our harimau's guaM continue to GUam in individual events.. gAmbatte! :)

[samuel882]

wAT A SUPERB achievements for MAS team in beating the mighty Chinese..
REally a shocks coz CHN are so strong that their juniors are keeps out frm participating in satelite tournaments... Still they are players to beat...
the MAS XD proove to us that BAM making a right decision to send them for major tournaments.. Despite being thrashed by Top pairs.. They gained priceless experience.. This help very much in particular for Team Events.. Which Experince the most factors in overcoming pressure..
Hopes BAM can keeps both this bunch of juniors in the team.. and send them to more major tournaments in future..
Hopes their MS wont follow the steps HH; YKB; Yogendran; KBH who consider can be out frm MAS team frm their poor perfomance... MAS shld send Juniors instead of them for participating in any tournaments!

[tommy_bun]

wAT A SUPERB achievements for MAS team in beating the mighty Chinese..
REally a shocks coz CHN are so strong that their juniors are keeps out frm participating in satelite tournaments... Still they are players to beat...
the MAS XD proove to us that BAM making a right decision to send them for major tournaments.. Despite being thrashed by Top pairs.. They gained priceless experience.. This help very much in particular for Team Events.. Which Experince the most factors in overcoming pressure..
Hopes BAM can keeps both this bunch of juniors in the team.. and send them to more major tournaments in future..
Hopes their MS wont follow the steps HH; YKB; Yogendran; KBH who consider can be out frm MAS team frm their poor perfomance... MAS shld send Juniors instead of them for participating in any tournaments!

Lu Qicheng,Wang Yihan and Majin played,the results would be diferrent,but anyway congrats to malaysia

[Misty100]

Lu Qicheng,Wang Yihan and Majin played,the results would be diferrent,but anyway congrats to malaysia

If you noticed, they are all overaged dude. Besides, Lydia Cheah beat Wang Yihan in the team event last year, eventually resulting in MAS beating CHN 3:2 in the semi-finals.

[badMania]

With players like Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (fast rising to be MAS no 1's XD pair) and Lim Khim Wah/Ng Hui Lin in the XD, Mohd Arif Latif, Lydia Chia and strong experienced BDs in Lim Khim Wah/Mak Hee Chun; its no surprise that Team MAS won the mixed team trophy.

[robin7]

There was much debate surrounding the most appropriate venue in Kuala Lumpur to host the 2007 Rakan Muda/Yonex-Sunrise Asian Junior Badminton Championships last week. But there can be no debate as to who the Mixed Team Champion should be, as a clueless Chinese side was stripped bare by ten Malaysians in tiger stripe jerseys at the Mixed Team Final today.

By Jan Lin, Badzine UK Correspondent. Photo: badmintonphoto (archive)

This is only the second year where the mixed team event has been staged in the Asian Junior Badminton Championships. Previously, the team event had always taken on the Thomas and Uber Cups format where the boys and girls compete for separate team titles.
Since the 2006 Championship, which was also held in Malaysia, the mixed team event, which replicates the Sudirman Cup Mixed Team Championship format, was introduced and has become the sole team event in the Asian Junior Championships.

While the Sudirman Cup is undeniably China’s cup of tea, the Chinese juniors have been beaten and bitten twice by a merciless team of heroic harimaus on the junior stage.

China holds a 0-2 losing record to the Malaysians, who have registered consecutive finals appearances in the Asian Junior Championships mixed team event. Malaysia defeated China 3-1 in the semi-final last year before being narrowly edged out by South Korea 2-3 in the final.

So not only did Malaysia finally seize the crown that slipped through their fingers last year, Malaysia’s U-19 junior team also avenged their senior team, which was whipped 4-1 by China in their Sudirman Cup group tie just a month ago in Glasgow.

There is no better representative than Beijing Olympics-bound mixed doubles pair of Tan Wee Kiong and Woon Khe Wei, who were both featured in the Sudirman Cup alongside their veteran teammates this year, to get the ball rolling for Malaysia.

Having already shared the court not once but twice, with China’s world number three pair Gao Ling/Zheng Bo, the mature Malaysian youngsters gave the Chinese juniors no chance as they skilfully finished off Wang Xiao Li and Li Tian 21-15, 21-8 in just 28 minutes.

Their win proved to be an instrumental psychological boost for Malaysia’s girls' singles player Lydia Cheah (pictured) who was next to come on stage. The lanky teenager bounced back from her surprise semi-final loss against Japan’s Uchida Sizuka, to register her virgin win over China’s Liu Jie in straight sets 21-18, 21-17.

Today’s win was doubly crucial for Lydia, who has earlier identified Liu as her biggest obstacle in her quest for the girls' singles title. The 18-year-old Malaysian was defeated by China’s then-junior Wang Yihan in the finals of the individual girls’ singles event last year and is keen to improve from her last year’s standing to reach for gold.

With Lydia extending Malaysia’s lead to 2-0, Malaysia’s number one Arif Latif defied all odds to stun China’s ace, Chen Long, in straight sets 21-18, 21-17 to secure both the winning point and the mixed team title under Malaysia's tiger skin belt.
http://www.badzine.info/images/stories/News/cheah.li.ya.lydia-02-mas-rs-singaporeopen2007.jpg

[robin7]

OMG, I just knew it - MAS has won the Aisan Junior Championship by beating CHN 3-0!

[Dimplex]

anyone got any photos? that'd be sweet

[jasonmarc]

is there anyone could up-date the individual results? pls..

[Krisna]

Alfa Vivianita lost to Fu Mingtian [SIN]... :crying:
Maria Febe lost to Uchida [JPN]... :crying:

[rwchen]

is there anyone could up-date the individual results? pls..
You may check this out. http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/upload/results/DailyIndResults.html
There are a number of notable upsets. Malaysia 1st seeded BD Lim/Mak lost to a Chinese pair.

[Krisna]

...and Febby Angguni lost to Porntip [THA]... :crying:

[Krisna]

Well, the good news for INA is that almost all BD, GD, and XD are through except our GD, Krisabella-Andys... and our BD, Nandang Arief is still there...

[johnps]

Sigh ..this BAM or BAC ..so sl..o..o...w in updating results. Just as bad if not worse than PO.

[gitee]

Ya lor. No wonder our Malaysia Supercorridor never take off. At least Thailand better than us. And I hate to admit it - but in this region, Singapore is the best.

[samuel882]

Do u guys noticed that frm the updates results at BAM web. http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/u...ndResults.html (http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/upload/results/DailyIndResults.html)

Kuan Kam Chung pair with Kuan Kam Chung in a XD match against the CHN Pairs !!! REally the bIGGEST JOKES of Badminton updates !!

[blessing]

With players like Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (fast rising to be MAS no 1's XD pair) and Lim Khim Wah/Ng Hui Lin in the XD, Mohd Arif Latif, Lydia Chia and strong experienced BDs in Lim Khim Wah/Mak Hee Chun; its no surprise that Team MAS won the mixed team trophy.lim khim wah-mak hee chun lost in individual event dy..

[gitee]

What about this ?

http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/upload/results/IndividualEvents.html

Click on BD worksheet and then you look at match 323 ... the score is 21-15, 23-12 !!

Why would they need to go to 23 pts instead of 21 points ? Is it supposed to be 23-21 ?

[gitee]

Finally, they updated the results.


http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/upload/results/IndividualEvents.html

[Krisna]

Ya lor. No wonder our Malaysia Supercorridor never take off. At least Thailand better than us. And I hate to admit it - but in this region, Singapore is the best.

None of us have any doubt that Singapore is the best at preparing infrastructure... Their future depends on it... They have nothing else that can pamper them. Malaysia and Indonesia are way too rich in natural resources... oil, coal, gas, palm oil etc. Can easily become complacent... :p

[Krisna]

Ok, Nandang Arif and Alfiat-Richi is in the quarterfinals... Debby-Richi is already through to the semifinals! Cool...

Wifqi-Alfiat & Albert-Aditya crashed in the quarterfinals ...and Wifqi-Debby lost in the round of 16... Oh well...

[samuel882]

:crying::crying: WKW lost in GD !
Lydia Cheah is a superwomen...!!
Advance in semis for GS & GD both ! wow !:eek:

[blessing]

wat time is the final tmr..?

[rwchen]

They just updated the morning session results. Malaysia will be represented in every discipline in the SF later this evening. The Malaysian juniors look strong. They book two berths in BS, BD and XD while one in GS and GD. Local favorites, Arif, Lydia and Tan/Woon are still in the running. Both MD pairs should have a decent chance of making the final too. I think this is the best ever achievement for Malaysia in the history of Asian Junior.

[Krisna]

They just updated the morning session results. Malaysia will be represented in every discipline in the SF later this evening. The Malaysian juniors look strong. They book two berths in BS, BD and XD while one in GS and GD. Local favorites, Arif, Lydia and Tan/Woon are still in the running. Both MD pairs should have a decent chance of making the final too. I think this is the best ever achievement for Malaysia in the history of Asian Junior.

On the other hand, only Richi-Debby is in the semis for INA. This could be one of the worst achievement by INA in the history of Asian Junior... :o INA had a huge internal row before this year's Asian Junior because PBSI tested the top Under 19 players to see wether they are actually really Under-19... And the casualties were bad...

We lost Pia Zebadiah, Nugroho Andi Saputro, Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, Natalia, Luluk, etc. etc. Apparently they "cheated" saying they are younger than what they should be... :o

[hcyong]

I was at the morning session just now. Went late and missed both the XD matches involving Malaysians. But the two ongoing ones went down to the wire in the third game.

In the GS, Lydia Cheah made a lot of errors but eventually pulled through against the 3/4-seed Thai girl, Porntip. Out of the two Chinese, only Liu Xin won, beating a Korean girl. The other Chinese girl was neck-and-neck with with Fu Mingtian, with the Singaporean eventually winning.. The other Malaysian was totally outclasses by Gu Juan. I expected tomorrow's final to be between Lydia and Liu Xin, both very tall girls as opposed to the (relatively) short Singaporean girls.

I had a minor shock when the first BS match was played between Lim Fang Yang and an Indonesian. Lim is very short. May be an optical illusion, but I feel he is even shorter than the aforementioned Singaporean girls. Being of that stature, he plays like Shoji Sato, quick footwork and solid defence. He slowly grinds his opponents down, and that was exactly what he did to win. Quite an impressive display seeing him covering the court. OTOH, Chen Long is very tall, and he maximises his height advantage. Derek Wong was a hapless victim today. It will be very interesting to see Chen Long (even his name is Long) vs Lim Fang Yang. I think Lim only reaches Chen's chest.

Arif vs Zhang Qi was another focal of attention today. In the first game, the Chinese had a huge lead which Arif could not close. The second and third were actually won quite comfortably by Arif. The other Chinese, Wen Shengxun, was totally outclassed by the Japanese, who was especially strong in attack. Should be an interesting semi between Arif and Riichi.

[gitee]

Ah ... don't forget that Gong Zhichao was very short too. And yet she excelled. Hard to say. Tall people have their advantage but also their disdvantage. For example, in bending to take drop shots and in defence, they may take longer time to come back to position. But of course in attack and clear, tall people have distinct advantages.

[gitee]

Oh..is there wireless internet access there ? If so, those watching the matches, can you post live the results after each match. If not, can someone tell the oraganiser to do so after each match ? Thank you.

[rwchen]

I was at the morning session just now. Went late and missed both the XD matches involving Malaysians. But the two ongoing ones went down to the wire in the third game.

In the GS, Lydia Cheah made a lot of errors but eventually pulled through against the 3/4-seed Thai girl, Porntip. Out of the two Chinese, only Liu Xin won, beating a Korean girl. The other Chinese girl was neck-and-neck with with Fu Mingtian, with the Singaporean eventually winning.. The other Malaysian was totally outclasses by Gu Juan. I expected tomorrow's final to be between Lydia and Liu Xin, both very tall girls as opposed to the (relatively) short Singaporean girls.

I had a minor shock when the first BS match was played between Lim Fang Yang and an Indonesian. Lim is very short. May be an optical illusion, but I feel he is even shorter than the aforementioned Singaporean girls. Being of that stature, he plays like Shoji Sato, quick footwork and solid defence. He slowly grinds his opponents down, and that was exactly what he did to win. Quite an impressive display seeing him covering the court. OTOH, Chen Long is very tall, and he maximises his height advantage. Derek Wong was a hapless victim today. It will be very interesting to see Chen Long (even his name is Long) vs Lim Fang Yang. I think Lim only reaches Chen's chest.

Arif vs Zhang Qi was another focal of attention today. In the first game, the Chinese had a huge lead which Arif could not close. The second and third were actually won quite comfortably by Arif. The other Chinese, Wen Shengxun, was totally outclassed by the Japanese, who was especially strong in attack. Should be an interesting semi between Arif and Riichi.


You predicted Liu vs Lydia in the final for GD, what about BS, does anyone hold the edge of making the final? If we look at the past finalists, most of them make some impact in the senior stage later, the championship is an ideal platform for moulding players although it may take some time.

[gitee]

XD results updated. One MAS pair and one KOR pair into the Final.

http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/upload/results/DailyIndResults.html

[ixory]

XD results updated. One MAS pair and one KOR pair into the Final.

http://www.bam.org.my:8080/ajc2007/upload/results/DailyIndResults.html

thanks gitee..;)

[gitee]

Gu Juan (SIN) beat Lydia Cheah (MAS) 16-21 21-14 21-11. But Mingtian (SIN) lost to Liu Xin (CHN) 22-24 11-21.

Looks like Mingtian must have been very tired out by this morning's match against Wang Shixian (CHN).

[rwchen]

The SF results have all been updated.

Tomorrow's finals will feature:

XD
Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (MAS) vs Shin Baek Cheol/Yoo Hyun Young(KOR)
GS
Gu Juan (SIN) vs Liu Xin (CHN)
BS
Mohd Arif (MAS) vs Chen Long (CHN)
GD
Lydia Cheah/ Tee Jing Yi (MAS) vs Puspita Richi/Debby Susanto (INA)
BD
Tan Wee Kiong/Mohd Lufti Zaim(MAS) vs Chai Biao/Li Tian (CHN)

Will Tan Wee Kiong be able to repeat the remarkable feat of Lee Yong Dae last year to emerge as triple gold medalist?

[champion8]

Gu Juan (SIN) beat Lydia Cheah (MAS) 16-21 21-14 21-11. But Mingtian (SIN) lost to Liu Xin (CHN) 22-24 11-21.

Looks like Mingtian must have been very tired out by this morning's match against Wang Shixian (CHN).


Lydia looks tired too. I think the match between Liu Jie and her which lasted 60 mins has been too tiring and she could not recovered. She played double as well. Its mean 4 matches yesterday and three today.

[hcyong]

Just came back from the stadium.

I saw only the tailend of the XD. The 3/4-seeded Koreans Shin/Yoo were obviously the better pair to second-seeded Malaysians Lim/Ng. In the other semi-final match, the Chinese Qiu/Lin gave the top-seeded favourites Tan/Woon a scare. But it was also obvious to me that Tan is by far the most dominant player on that court.

This morning Lydia made a lot of errors, and tonight too, she did. In the first game, both girls (vs Gu Juan) were sending shuttles out or into the net. Lydia took the game only because she had a healthy lead. In the next two, Gu cut down on her errors and started controlling the game especially from the net. And that's the end of the story.

Meanwhile the game between Liu Xin and Fu Mingtian was very close in the first game. Liu came back from like 13-17 to hold game points at 20-18. Fu forced deuce but was forced to concede. The second game saw a dominating Liu giving no chance to Fu.

As I had expected, Lim Fang Yang's height comes up to below Chen Long's shoulder, and so did the level of play. Lim had no chance. Chen must have been like "Plastic Man" to him, easily strecthing to reach the shuttles.

Arif and Riichi had a close match, Arif only managing to dominate at the closing stages of each game. Riichi is a good player. Watch out for him in the future (it's not just about Kenichi Tago).

In the GD, I found out that Tee Jingyi is a natural doubles player. She struggled against Gu Juan this morning, but in the doubles match partnering Lydia against top-seeded Koreans Yoo/Jung, she showed her mettle, in spite of her partner's unforced errors. (I am beginning to think that unforced errors is a big part of Lydia's game.) I didn't see much of the other semi-final, but the Indonesians Dili/Susanto were quite comfortable in their victory against 3/4-seeded Singaporeans Yao/Fu.

And then finally, the BD where both semis feature CHN v MAS. Chai Biao/Li Tian remind me of Fu/Cai, fast, tall and packing a powerful jumping smash. Even though the scores were close, I feel they were quite comfortable with their win over Vountus/Arif. At the other end, Lufti/Tan were totally dominant over Qiu/Zhang.

[hsengsping]

Thanks for update

[hcyong]

And tomorrow:

(I am actually torn between watching Phillippines Open on TV or going to the stadium. Both finals start at the same time.)

Mohd Arif v Chen Long
Probably the best two BS players in this tournament. And a repeat of the team final match, too. Prediction: Chen Long. He just lords over the court.

Liu Xin v Gu Juan
No one expected either to reach the final with players like Maria Febe, Lydia and Liu Jie around. But from what I saw of the two sessions today, they both deserved the final spot. Prediction: Liu Xin, but only just.

Tan/Lufti v Li/Chai
Will be interesting. Both very formidable pairs. Hard to predict, but I'll put my bet on Tan/Lufti (home ground advantage).

Tee/Lydia v Dili Susanto
Prediction: Home ground advantage again.

Tan/Woon v Shin/Yoo
All the other predictions were pretty hard. I could get 0/4. But for this one, I have more confidence in icking Tan/Woon, favourites from the start and still the favourites.

[blessing]

The SF results have all been updated.

Tomorrow's finals will feature:

XD
Tan Wee Kiong/Woon Khe Wei (MAS) vs Shin Baek Cheol/Yoo Hyun Young(KOR)
GS
Gu Juan (SIN) vs Liu Xin (CHN)
BS
Mohd Arif (MAS) vs Chen Long (CHN)
GD
Lydia Cheah/ Tee Jing Yi (MAS) vs Puspita Richi/Debby Susanto (INA)
BD
Tan Wee Kiong/Mohd Lufti Zaim(MAS) vs Chai Biao/Li Tian (CHN)

Will Tan Wee Kiong be able to repeat the remarkable feat of Lee Yong Dae last year to emerge as triple gold medalist?he can do it.. trust him..

[Krisna]

Tee/Lydia v Dili/Susanto
Prediction: Home ground advantage again.


Richi Dili is a very talented GD Junior. She usually plays with Yulianti and have won the Thailand Series and the Vietnam Challenge a few months ago... A very smart player...

Debby Susanto was last year's INA National Junior Championship runner-up. Until 2 weeks ago, Debby and her normal partner, Luluk Maria Ulfa, was INA's highest ranked Junior GD pair. However, Luluk could not join her to play in the Asian Junior because she admitted to PBSI 2 week ago that she is actually 19... :p [1 year over the limit]

So this very very very new pair has played very much up to their potential so far... Both Richi and Debby are fighters, hard workers, and have had a lot of competitive match exposure before this championship. I expect that they will fight to the very end against Tee-Lydia... I hope tomorrow's match will be wonderful to watch... :)

[jasonmarc]

its good for Lydia, just concentrate in GD.....if she has to play in GS and GD.....today..the chances for her to grab the gold in either event will be very slim.....poor girl..must be very tired already..after two weeks long tournament..go girl....grab the GD gold for MAS.....Boleh..

[Rachel Tan]

Time : 22 July 2007(Sunday), 8pm
Channel : Astro Supersport (Channel 80)

[samuel882]

TWK sweeping 3 titles ? I really doubt it.. He was not in the same clas as LYD. Who i rate as the future PJB for KOREA..
The CHN MD was in smashing form thoughout this tournament here...
TWK wont find it easily in BD match .. especially he needs to play two finals in one day. He shld conserve his energy in XD with WKW wich they have the best chance to seal the title..

[hcyong]

TWK sweeping 3 titles ? I really doubt it.. He was not in the same clas as LYD. Who i rate as the future PJB for KOREA..
The CHN MD was in smashing form thoughout this tournament here...
TWK wont find it easily in BD match .. especially he needs to play two finals in one day. He shld conserve his energy in XD with WKW wich they have the best chance to seal the title..

TWK is not in the same class as LYD, but that does not mean he cannot do the sweep. LYD blew everyone in his age group apart, but you can't say the same about TWK. Still there is a 50-50 chance he can do it, and that's pretty impressive too.

[Dreamzz]

ahhahaha, LYD is the man, they should have banned from competing in the junior championships, kinda unfair having one half of the world #3 MD pairing playing for your team!

[jasonmarc]

Any results...pls up-date! Thanks

[gitee]

They just posted the results of XD. MAS XD won 21-18, 18-21, 21-12.

[gitee]

And Gu Juan lost to Liu Xin (CHN) after a fierce fight in the rubber game. 7-21 21-15 16-21.

[Dreamzz]

thanks for the updates, please let us know when you learn of the GD and BD results.

[jasonmarc]

Thanks for the up-dates.....keep coming

[rwchen]

Chen Long(CHN) won over Mohd Arif (MAS) in three tough sets, 18-21, 21-18, 22-20. What a match!

[samuel882]

Chen Long(CHN) won over Mohd Arif (MAS) in three tough sets, 18-21, 21-18, 22-20. What a match!
Wow !! Wat a comeback by CL !!:eek:

[qwertyu]

any update guys? md wd?

[ixory]

so sad our BS Ariff lost,so near yet so far but congratulation to our XD!!!!

[Ching293]

MAS only took XD..

[Sandy]

Final Results




XD MAS TAN, Wee Kiong [1] bt KOR SHIN, Baek Cheol [3/4] 21-18, 18-21, 21-12 46
MAS WOON, Khe Wei KOR YOO, Hyun Young
GS CHN LIU, Xin bt SIN GU, Juan [2] 21-7, 15-21, 21-16 47
BS CHN CHEN, Long [5/8] bt MAS ABDUL LATIF, Mohd Arif [3/4] 18-21, 21-18, 22-20 65
GD INA DILI, Puspita Richi bt MAS TEE, Jing Yi [5/8] 21-12, 15-21, 21-18 40
INA SUSANTO, Debby MAS CHEAH, Li Ya Lydia
BD CHN CHAI, Biao bt MAS ABDUL KHALID, Mohd Lutfi Zaim [3/4] 21-12, 21-8 21
CHN LI, Tian MAS TAN, Wee Kiong

[badMania]

Wow...Dili Puspita Richi/Debby Susanto won the WD after beating Tee Jing Yi/Lydia Cheah Li Ya 21-12, 15-21, 21-18. Definitely a boost for INA's junior team. IMHO, Dili is going to form a strong partnership with Yulianti in the years to come! Sandy, what do u think?

[samuel882]

Surpisingly to see TWK lost so tamely to the CHN pair.. Might be tired after playing high tempo XD with the koreans

[Sandy]

Wow...Dili Puspita Richi/Debby Susanto won the WD after beating Tee Jing Yi/Lydia Cheah Li Ya 21-12, 15-21, 21-18. Definitely a boost for INA's junior team. IMHO, Dili is going to form a strong partnership with Yulianti in the years to come! Sandy, what do u think?

Dili is good front side player and she played well when paired who has big power. In Pelatnas she ever paired with Lili Siswanti and now Yulianti. Both girls are tomboy and has big power.

Actually Debby Susanto doesn't have big power but she fast and tricky. Debby-Richi paired just a few days ago, surprised they won in here.

[badMania]

Dili is good front side player and she played well when paired who has big power. In Pelatnas she ever paired with Lili Siswanti and now Yulianti. Both girls are tomboy and has big power.

Actually Debby Susanto doesn't have big power but she fast and tricky. Debby-Richi paired just a few days ago, surprised they won in here.

Thanks for your explanation as always :D

Looks like INA WD does have some potential in the near future with Dili/Yulianti and Maria Ulfa/Debby.

[Yojimbo]

I'm quite disappointed with the results.Arif was so close to winning the gold. However, congrats to all the winners.Hopefully Arif and the others perform well in the World Junior Championships.

[huangkwokhau]

Dili is good front side player and she played well when paired who has big power. In Pelatnas she ever paired with Lili Siswanti and now Yulianti. Both girls are tomboy and has big power.

Actually Debby Susanto doesn't have big power but she fast and tricky. Debby-Richi paired just a few days ago, surprised they won in here.


As I mentioned a while ago..by pairing Tomboy players may be the only way to boost INA WD.....looking forward to see Yulianti/Puspita Richi...suprise to learn that INA junior won as they were unseeded...;)

[Krisna]

As I mentioned a while ago..by pairing Tomboy players may be the only way to boost INA WD.....looking forward to see Yulianti/Puspita Richi...suprise to learn that INA junior won as they were unseeded...;)

Note: both Richi and Debby are not tomboys... ;) Yulianti is a bit tomboyish [and even have aspirations of becoming a policewoman, according to her profile in pbdjarum.com] Richi is a bright young lady and an optimist. Debby is not a bad looking girl. Kinda cute. :p I agree with Sandy. Debby has no power, but crafty and agile...

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic07d8a650c0.jpg
http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/picc44a0a70f.jpg


Debby Susanto

[huangkwokhau]

Note: both Richi and Debby are not tomboys... ;) Yulianti is a bit tomboyish [and even have aspirations of becoming a policewoman, according to her profile in pbdjarum.com] Richi is a bright young lady and an optimist. Debby is not a bad looking girl. Kinda cute. :p I agree with Sandy. Debby has no power, but crafty and agile...

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic07d8a650c0.jpg
http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/picc44a0a70f.jpg


Debby Susanto

I am talking a combi of Yulianti/Richi.....not richi/Debby....:D:D

[samuel882]

Congrats to the INA GD team.. They finally produce great talents in this departments ... Hopes richi/debbi/yulianti can be groom as world beaters ASAP...

[samuel882]

I'm quite disappointed with the results.Arif was so close to winning the gold. However, congrats to all the winners.Hopefully Arif and the others perform well in the World Junior Championships.

Ya.. Very sad to see Lydia lost in the WD match.. Although is not her pet events... But she fight with her partners till the last drop...
In a god sight is MAS no longer a weak challenger in Women's team..
Gambateh... Hopes they all will shine for MAS future..

[hcyong]

I missed the mixed doubles match again as I was watching the LCW-CH match on TV. When I reached the stadium, it was in the second game of the GS match. Both Gu Juan and Liu Xin are good players. The standard of the game was pretty high. In the end, Liu just edged it after an equal rubber game. Gu's game is to get everything back, sending the shuttle to all corners and a sharp net drop. She does not have much of an attacking game as it would have been a disadvantage due to her height. Liu's game is a bit more attacking, but many a times, she gets frustrated because all the shots came right back, so she also got hugely involved in the rally game, only attacking when that option was obvious.

Arif and Chen Long came next. Another high-quality match, and very high-paced. Chen Long towers over Arif, and I suspect over everyone else in the stadium, and of course he will use that to his advantage, intercepting shots quickly and smashing down the line. Very effective on his forehand side. He seems to have a backhand weakness which Arif occasionally exploits. Arif's speed and defence are exceptional; no one could survive against Chen until rubber-game deuce unless you have those qualities. His attack is also quite effective especially when Chen is forced to lift after a tight netting. All these ingredients resulted in a pulsating match. I could now see that Arif's win in the team event was not a fluke. Arif held a match point but Chen won on his first match point. He was extremely delighted. Arif looked despondent but they hugged each other after the match. Future stars for sure.

The GS started slowly. The first game was almost a walkover. The Malaysians came back strongly to take the second game. And the third was neck-and-neck until the Indonesians took the last few points for the win. Not very high quality. Lots of unforced errors here and there.

The BS was a whitewash. The Malaysians were stymied right from the beginning to the very end. Li/Chai will replace Fu/Cai in a few years.

[samuel882]

Well.. Its quite strange to see MJs for this generations lack of heights... Arif..Kuan Kam Chung.. Lim Gang Yang.. Even the impressive TWK all fell short among the tower of CHN/KOREA

[KlasseE]

Well.. Its quite strange to see MJs for this generations lack of heights... Arif..Kuan Kam Chung.. Lim Gang Yang.. Even the impressive TWK all fell short among the tower of CHN/KOREA
height is not a problem if you have seen the match between Arif n Chen Long. As mentioned by Misbum previously that Arif is still a boy at 18, he (and his teamates) will gain some height in couple of years....
As for Chen Long, not sure if he will play like BCL or WCH in future (negative)or PG (positive) ...

[champion8]

I missed the mixed doubles match again as I was watching the LCW-CH match on TV. When I reached the stadium, it was in the second game of the GS match. Both Gu Juan and Liu Xin are good players. The standard of the game was pretty high. In the end, Liu just edged it after an equal rubber game. Gu's game is to get everything back, sending the shuttle to all corners and a sharp net drop. She does not have much of an attacking game as it would have been a disadvantage due to her height. Liu's game is a bit more attacking, but many a times, she gets frustrated because all the shots came right back, so she also got hugely involved in the rally game, only attacking when that option was obvious.

Arif and Chen Long came next. Another high-quality match, and very high-paced. Chen Long towers over Arif, and I suspect over everyone else in the stadium, and of course he will use that to his advantage, intercepting shots quickly and smashing down the line. Very effective on his forehand side. He seems to have a backhand weakness which Arif occasionally exploits. Arif's speed and defence are exceptional; no one could survive against Chen until rubber-game deuce unless you have those qualities. His attack is also quite effective especially when Chen is forced to lift after a tight netting. All these ingredients resulted in a pulsating match. I could now see that Arif's win in the team event was not a fluke. Arif held a match point but Chen won on his first match point. He was extremely delighted. Arif looked despondent but they hugged each other after the match. Future stars for sure.

The GS started slowly. The first game was almost a walkover. The Malaysians came back strongly to take the second game. And the third was neck-and-neck until the Indonesians took the last few points for the win. Not very high quality. Lots of unforced errors here and there.

The BS was a whitewash. The Malaysians were stymied right from the beginning to the very end. Li/Chai will replace Fu/Cai in a few years.

Saw all the matches.

Woon/Tan played well to secure the win. Should be a medal contender for world junior.

Gu Juan/Liu Xin. Its was a dull game but i guess the final was an anti climax because the top players were knocked out in the earlier clashes like Liu Jie ,Lydia, Shizuka,Bae and Maria Febe.

Arif/ Chen Long. One of the best game of the tournament. The Best against the best. It could have been the Malaysian win but luck was not on Arif side.

Ladies Doubles. Nothing spectacular though Lydia and Tee tries their best. If not for some unforce error it could be the Malaysian game. I guess it is difficult to play double with single player( Lydia and Tee are both single player)

Boys Double. Anticlimax. China controlling all the way. Clear winner.

[samuel882]

Saw all the matches.

Woon/Tan played well to secure the win. Should be a medal contender for world junior.
Ladies Doubles. Nothing spectacular though Lydia and Tee tries their best. If not for some unforce error it could be the Malaysian game. I guess it is difficult to play double with single player( Lydia and Tee are both single player)


Woon Tan WK certainly profited by the Sudirman cup outings ~ This two needs more exposure to international tournaments to be on par with top Xd pair... There will be time for them to shine once current XD veterans retired frm Badminton stages..
Lydia Shld concentrate on Singles, she has the skills and stamina to play on her pet events... MAS shld not over pressure her by pick her in both single/doubles on any tournaments... She still lacks of the experince needed to excell in both events..

[Loh]

Gu Juan (SIN) beat Lydia Cheah (MAS) 16-21 21-14 21-11. But Mingtian (SIN) lost to Liu Xin (CHN) 22-24 11-21.

Looks like Mingtian must have been very tired out by this morning's match against Wang Shixian (CHN).

Good to note that our China imports are matching their Chinese contempories in this tournament.

I believe many of our China imports will not have a chance to be selected to represent China had they remain there. Coming to Singapore when they were in their early teens and getting professional training enabled them to reach high standards closely matching the best China players represented in this important AJC. From this exposure many past winners and runners-up were evently promoted to the National teams. :)

[Linus]

I think all in all, Malaysia did very well. Taking the team event and beating China 3-0 is no easy task at all! :eek:

Malaysia taking the XD title - who would have thouht of that! :eek: And some members were even questioning Rexy sanity when he sent this young pairing in the Sudirman Cup! :p:rolleyes:

Of course, things will change when these young and enthuastic players transit into the full national team. Some will make it some will not - it is this transition that determine if the next batch of badminton stars will emerge, and this is also where the whole administration from player managemenet, supervising to coaching come into play.

[samuel882]

I think all in all, Malaysia did very well considering this is played outside Malaysia. Taking the team event and beating China 3-0 is no easy task at all! :eek:

Malaysia taking the XD title - who would have thouht of that! :eek: And some members were even questioning Rexy sanity when he sent this young pairing in the Sudirman Cup! :p:rolleyes:

Of course, things will change when these young and enthuastic players transit into the full national team. Some will make it some will not - it is this transition that determine if the next batch of badminton stars will emerge, and this is also where the whole administration from player managemenet, supervising to coaching come into play.

This championship was held in KL, Malaysia.. dudes ...;);)

[Linus]

This championship was held in KL, Malaysia.. dudes ...;);)

But of course! :eek:
What am I thinking.....must be a sign of overwork on a Monday! :D:D:D:p:p:p

[samuel882]

Watever it is.. Good to see many countries started to produce talented juniors here... KOR/MAS/SIN will be the force to reckon with in the coming future.. Hopes they will end the reign of the mighty CHN in ALL events soon..

[Krisna]

Watever it is.. Good to see many countries started to produce talented juniors here... KOR/MAS/SIN will be the force to reckon with in the coming future.. Hopes they will end the reign of the mighty CHN in ALL events soon..

...er... and INA! ;) Our WD are getting serious here!

[samuel882]

...er... and INA! ;) Our WD are getting serious here!

Ya.. Sorry to left out the ever exciting tomboys pair of INA ;):D

[badMania]

Hmm...Debby Susanto certainly DOES NOT look tomboyish. She should be of Chinese descent.

[gitee]

Good to note that our China imports are matching their Chinese contempories in this tournament.

I believe many of our China imports will not have a chance to be selected to represent China had they remain there. Coming to Singapore when they were in their early teens and getting professional training enabled them to reach high standards closely matching the best China players represented in this important AJC. From this exposure many past winners and runners-up were evently promoted to the National teams. :)


Yes. And considering that Singapore took these young ones when they were nobody in China. And to be able to MADE them in Singapore, it is a good sign that Singapore's training environment is good. Just like Ronald Susilo.

[Krisna]

Ya.. Sorry to left out the ever exciting tomboys pair of INA ;):D


Hmm...Debby Susanto certainly DOES NOT look tomboyish. She should be of Chinese descent.

From what I know, Debby is a Chinese Indonesian from Palembang... ;) Yup, Richi & Debby are not tomboys, samuel882... :D Maybe Debby's rather short hair sort of indicate that she is a tomboy, but she is not...
http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic07d8a650c0.jpg
Debby Susanto

Sorry I don't have a photo of Richi here... But Richi has long hair & slim figure... acts quite feminine too... Not much testosterone there.... :D

The recent China Masters' champs, Lili-Vita, are tomboys... and we are proud of them! Ha ha ha... :cool::D Yulianti, that Hau-ge mentioned, is also a tomboy, without a doubt...
http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic37625eb65f2.jpg
Yulianti

[gitee]

The reason the Chinese and Korean players were seeded was NOT some prejudice based on past success of the nation. It was that they had done well at the Asian Junior Championships. All the winners at the Asian Juniors - Tago Kenichi, Wang Yihan, Lee Yong Dae/Cho Gun Woo, Ma Jin/Wang Xiaoli, Lee Yong Dae/Yoo Hyun Yung - ended up as top seeds (after the re-draw) in Incheon at the worlds and the same went for the lower seeds. The first draw was based solely on world ranking and it left many top juniors unseeded. The re-seeding was far more in step with the actual results with one exception: Saina Nehwal, who had been the top seed in the first go round based on her Philippine Open victory, finally started the tournament as a ninth seed but ended up as the runner-up.

There were Europeans and Oceanians among the seeded competitors at Incheon, presumably on the strength of their performances at European Junior tournaments, but they were not seeded as highly for some reason. Perhaps the BWF had excellent foresight as all but one European entry, a mixed pair from Denmark, were gone by the WJC quarter-finals.

With so many of last year's winners having past the age cutoff, it isn't as clear how the seedings could be done for something like the 2007 Asian Juniors. There was a junior tournament in Germany but the Chinese didn't attend.


You know somthing. I heard from my Korean friend that Korean coach, Lee Deuk Choon was very angry at Team Managr meeting. He asked Karen Koh, BAC COO, what is the base for seeding as China XD pair Li Tian / Wang Xiaoli not seeded in individual. Karen said based on World Ranking and no take into account the past achievement. Then Lee of Korea asked if so, why China team seeded 2nd ? And that incoherent Karen said that because Wang Xiaoli / Li Tian won the XD title at last year World Junior. I heard the whole room laughed ...she just slapped herself hard. Ouch !! . But it is good for MAS, my country. But then no good lah that people say we cheated. And heard BAC never invite countries to witness draw. Play cheat. Put Malaysia in bad lite. Malaysia no nid like that to win lah. Hope next time Karen be cleaner lah.

[samuel882]

You know somthing. I heard from my Korean friend that Korean coach, Lee Deuk Choon was very angry at Team Managr meeting. He asked Karen Koh, BAC COO, what is the base for seeding as China XD pair Li Tian / Wang Xiaoli not seeded in individual. Karen said based on World Ranking and no take into account the past achievement. Then Lee of Korea asked if so, why China team seeded 2nd ? And that incoherent Karen said that because Wang Xiaoli / Li Tian won the XD title at last year World Junior. I heard the whole room laughed ...she just slapped herself hard. Ouch !! . But it is good for MAS, my country. But then no good lah that people say we cheated. And heard BAC never invite countries to witness draw. Play cheat. Put Malaysia in bad lite. Malaysia no nid like that to win lah. Hope next time Karen be cleaner lah.
You are cute :D:D Typical "MALAYSIAN English" with lah..lah.. lah.. all the way in ur post. ;):D:D

[Krisna]

You know somthing. I heard from my Korean friend that Korean coach, Lee Deuk Choon was very angry at Team Managr meeting. He asked Karen Koh, BAC COO, what is the base for seeding as China XD pair Li Tian / Wang Xiaoli not seeded in individual. Karen said based on World Ranking and no take into account the past achievement. Then Lee of Korea asked if so, why China team seeded 2nd ? And that incoherent Karen said that because Wang Xiaoli / Li Tian won the XD title at last year World Junior. I heard the whole room laughed ...she just slapped herself hard. Ouch !!

Exactly! :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:


But it is good for MAS, my country. But then no good lah that people say we cheated. And heard BAC never invite countries to witness draw. Play cheat. Put Malaysia in bad lite. Malaysia no nid like that to win lah. Hope next time Karen be cleaner lah.

I completely agree....:D

[Noridayu]

I think malaysia got alot of money and goverment (BAM) supported the badminton. So Malaysia always send a lot of players. It is good for experiences for the young malaysia players.

Dear expert,

It is true that BAM are investing in the juniors as they are the future heroes that will make M'sia as the one of the world supreme power in the world. The juniors undergone many tournaments locally and international. they are expose to the tougher tournaments to enhance their skills and potential. I am proud of my M'sian junior.All the best ,Brothers and sisters.

[Noridayu]

sO......wOW......MAS juniors are the team CHAMPION.....Congrat.....it showed that the 1st. Seeding ....is given not becaus of bias...like Krisna presumed....this result proof it ......MAS junior mixed team is the best at this moment in ASIA........Hey Krisna would you like to congratulate us...MAS...Hehehehe..

Dear Jason,

Indeed our juniors players are the best in Asia for now because of our plan to expose them to different types of tournament. Some of the juniors are the sparring partner of the National team.It benefits the juniors.