Now, 6 SS, out of 12 in total, have past,

If no injuries to any body, then

Chen Jin, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Chen Yu will be sure to be able to play the SS final. I give them all 100%.

Gade and Lee CW should have no problem, should have 90% at least.

Sony have some advantage, but only 60% chance.

Jonassen: 55%

Ponsana: 50%

Simon: 20%

Chen Hong: 20%

Sato: 10%

Hafiz: 5%

all the other players (including Taufik): 0% (Theorectial impossible already)

On the WS:

Zhu Lin, Xu HW, Zhang N, Xie XF, Wang Chen: 100%

Pi HY, Lu Lan: 90%

Petya N: 50%

Hirose: 40%

Wong MC: 17%

Yao Jie: 13%

Zhou Mi (probably still one of the best) and all the others: 0%

Now, 6 SS, out of 12 in total, have past,

If no injuries to any body, then

Chen Jin, Lin Dan, Bao CL, Chen Yu will be sure to be able to play the SS final. I give them all 100%.

Gade and Lee CW should have no problem, should have 90% at least.

Sony have some advantage, but only 60% chance.

Jonassen: 55%

Ponsana: 50%

Simon: 20%

Chen Hong: 20%

Sato: 10%

Hafiz: 5%

all the other players (including Taufik): 0% (Theorectial impossible already)

On the WS:

Zhu Lin, Xu HW, Zhang N, Xie XF, Wang Chen: 100%

Pi HY, Lu Lan: 90%

Petya N: 50%

Hirose: 40%

Wong MC: 17%

Yao Jie: 13%

Zhou Mi (probably still one of the best) and all the others: 0%

Poor Zhou Mi:crying:

You were pretty harsh on Chen Hong. He's currently the world number #2, I think he will make it to the super series final. But heh you're such a China fan :cool:.

Isn't there a rule that says maximum 2 representatives from each country in each category?:confused:

its a max of 4, hehe in the mens doubles indo have like 2.5 pairs available cos candra and tony are like a half half pair apparently

You were pretty harsh on Chen Hong. He's currently the world number #2, I think he will make it to the super series final. But heh you're such a China fan :cool:.

I haven't done the maths, but if you look at the current Super Series rankings (http://www.tournamentsoftware.com/ranking/ranking.aspx?rid=32) then Chen Hong isn't even in the top 10 so maybe that's why 2cents only gave him 20%. Also only two representatives from each country are allowed to qualify for the final and 4 of his countrymen are ahead of him this will further reduce his chances. In fact it's therefore not really possible to give Lin Dan, Chen Jin, Chen Yu and Bao Chunlai all 100% as 2cents said, similarly for the women's singles

why is taufik 0%? is it according to the ranking (the scores) or the results of the opens in the super series?

Isn't there a rule that says maximum 2 representatives from each country in each category?:confused:


Yes..you are right so we will not see 4 Chinese MS in final......so sony has a better chance to make to final SS, provided if he can reach Qtr final each time or more....

All my calculations were based on the current points plus player's potential in the rest of the year. I didn't know there were quotas for each country. I thought super series would treat all players equally.

To make into the final 8 by the end of the year, a total points of 50,000-52,000 are needed. Chen Hong still has some chances if he can repeat what he did last year won back to back 6 star tournaments (China open and Denmark open). But for Taufik, since he needs almost 40,000 points, which means he needs to be in all the semifinals and even more in the rest 6 SS. It is obviously impossible for him.

My calculations are purely based on facts and I'm transparent to their nationality. The reason why I put 4 Chinese players as 100%, because they are the top 4 in the ranking list and far better than all the others, while Chen Hong is now ranked 15th, far below other top 4 Chinese MS. Besides, 3 of the rest SS will be in China, which are used to be dominated by Chinese players. Therefore, it is hard to believe those top 4 will not be qualified.

But since China politics is always unstable, so does their national team, if Li YB or management level decide to disallow someone playing anymore, then that player's career could be ended at any minute.

About Super Series

Badminton World Federation

Over the last decade or so, the Badminton World Federation (formerly known as the International Badminton Federation) has embarked on a series of changes that is slowly but surely giving the sport the recognition it truly deserves.

The introduction of the Super Series is just one of the major steps that the BWF hopes would generate more interest around the world.

The Super Series will consist of twelve Open events, which will each offer a minimum of US$ 200,000 in prize money. These will serve as the qualifiers for the season ending Super Series Finals.

The Finals itself will be the richest ever badminton tournament to be staged, offering a staggering US$ 500,000 in prize money for the first year.

The Proton Malaysian Open will be opening leg of the Super Series. Korea, England, Switzerland, Singapore, Indonesia, Japan, Denmark, France and Hong Kong will each host one leg of the Super Series with China being given the right to host two legs.

Only the top eight singles and top eight pairs in each category would qualify for the Finals. However, only a maximum of two players per country would qualify for the Finals.

The BWF, in its effort to make the Series more exciting, has also restricted the number of entries for each category in the twelve events to just 32, of which only four will come from qualifiers.

To further add to the excitement, BWF has also decided to do away with the national separation ruling in all the Super Series events. This means that two players from the same country can meet as early as the first round.

There will also be an increased television coverage worldwide, with each host required to guarantee the live telecast of the semi-final and finals.

In addition, Sports Media Promotions, who are the marketing agents for the Super Series, has made a deal with IEC in Sports to produce 36 episodes of the World of Badminton half hour programme that will be telecast in major markets throughout the world.

The Super Series is certainly going to elevate the profile of badminton to a more deserving status.

So what mate!! he just got bash up helplessly by Choon Han in the China Masters...don't forget Choon Han is currently ranked #20+...


You were pretty harsh on Chen Hong. He's currently the world number #2, I think he will make it to the super series final. But heh you're such a China fan :cool:.

why is taufik 0%? is it according to the ranking (the scores) or the results of the opens in the super series?

you're damn right mate....god bless Taufik and indonesia Badminton Association...

thank cxytdn for pointing that only 2 players per county. I haven't read the rules yet.

But it is so unfair. WBF claims that county will not be an issue any more in super series, which means treat every player equally regardless their country. But in fact, what they want is just let Chinese fight Chinese in the first round, and in the SS final, even the top 3,4,5 cannot get qualified. Currently, there are 5 Chinese players in the top 8 world ranking. It is unfair for those Chinese players.

I feel that WBF rules are almost trying to contain Chinese players. There is no such rule in snooker. There are all Brits in the snooker grand prix final except one Chinese and one Australian.

That's the reason badminton can never got popular. People cannot trust the champions, there are more equally good players not in the tournaments.

based on the rule: only 2 players per country, then it should be:

Lee CW: 100%

Gade, Jonassen: 95%

Lin Dan, Sony: 90%

Boonsak : 80%

Sato, Santoso: 70%

Bao CL, Chen Jin: 50%

Hafiz, Wong CH: 25%

Susilo, Lee Kendrick, Chen Yu: 10%

All others: 0%

Xu HW, Pi HY, Wang Chen: 100%

Xie XF: 70%

Petya, Eriko, Wong MC, Yip PY, Yao Jie, Zhu Ling, Zhang Ning: 60%

Lu Lan: 10%

All others: 0%

based on the rule: only 2 players per country, then it should be:

Lee CW: 100%

Gade, Jonassen: 95%

Lin Dan, Sony: 90%

Boonsak : 80%

Sato, Santoso: 70%

Bao CL, Chen Jin: 50%

Hafiz, Wong CH: 25%

Susilo, Lee Kendrick, Chen Yu: 10%

All others: 0%

Xu HW, Pi HY, Wang Chen: 100%

Xie XF: 70%

Petya, Eriko, Wong MC, Yip PY, Yao Jie, Zhu Ling, Zhang Ning: 60%

Lu Lan: 10%

All others: 0%

TAUFIK HIDAYAT : 100 %,
HE WILL BE IN TOP EIGHT SOON, SURE BUT SLOWLY :)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5326/rankingjuly192007sd8.jpg

I feel that WBF rules are almost trying to contain Chinese players. There is no such rule in snooker. There are all Brits in the snooker grand prix final except one Chinese and one Australian.

That's the reason badminton can never got popular. People cannot trust the champions, there are more equally good players not in the tournaments.


Total dominant of CHN Players in badminton is not healthy for this sports !!
WBF is doing the right thing ! IF a singled country keeps on dominant .. The sports events are in dangered of excluded for a event to compete in OG !
If badminton needs to be popular & displaced Tennis as no.1 racket sports in the world.. We needs to see more country to challenge CHN in the future.. As frm now only INA/MAS/KOR/DEN/ENG.. Less Than 10 countries are capable for doing that.. How this sports can become popular in the world??

TAUFIK HIDAYAT : 100 %,
HE WILL BE IN TOP EIGHT SOON, SURE BUT SLOWLY :)

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/5326/rankingjuly192007sd8.jpg


superseries ranking..not world ranking :)

wat about men doub?

to get all the rankings, go to the wbf website, go to rankings, then on the side there is a list called super series rankings or something, and yeah you can get all the events

thank cxytdn for pointing that only 2 players per county. I haven't read the rules yet.

But it is so unfair. WBF claims that county will not be an issue any more in super series, which means treat every player equally regardless their country. But in fact, what they want is just let Chinese fight Chinese in the first round, and in the SS final, even the top 3,4,5 cannot get qualified. Currently, there are 5 Chinese players in the top 8 world ranking. It is unfair for those Chinese players.

I feel that WBF rules are almost trying to contain Chinese players. There is no such rule in snooker. There are all Brits in the snooker grand prix final except one Chinese and one Australian.

That's the reason badminton can never got popular. People cannot trust the champions, there are more equally good players not in the tournaments.

TOTALLY UNFAIR. ALWAYS DISCRIMINATE CHINESE PLAYERS. BWF HATES CHINESE:mad:

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Total dominant of CHN Players in badminton is not healthy for this sports !!
WBF is doing the right thing ! IF a singled country keeps on dominant .. The sports events are in dangered of excluded for a event to compete in OG !
If badminton needs to be popular & displaced Tennis as no.1 racket sports in the world.. We needs to see more country to challenge CHN in the future.. As frm now only INA/MAS/KOR/DEN/ENG.. Less Than 10 countries are capable for doing that.. How this sports can become popular in the world??

1 million peoples is enough to promote this sports:p

TOTALLY UNFAIR. ALWAYS DISCRIMINATE CHINESE PLAYERS. BWF HATES CHINESE:mad:
Hei .. The world not only have Chinese ok ! The BWF is doing the right thing to makes the sports popular among all nations/ race .. Which is damn right thing and comply th Olympic Spirits !

Hei .. The world not only have Chinese ok ! The BWF is doing the right thing to makes the sports popular among all nations/ race .. Which is damn right thing and comply th Olympic Spirits !

Is it fair? If you are a Chinese player, how's your feeling?

BWF must adopted ATP (tennis). 8 best tennis players in WR can qualify into Masters Cup in Shanghai. There is no regulation about maximum 2 players from the same country.

Is it fair? If you are a Chinese player, how's your feeling?

BWF must adopted ATP (tennis). 8 best tennis players in WR can qualify into Masters Cup in Shanghai. There is no regulation about maximum 2 players from the same country.

I agree with your. Finals is just Finals, not World Championships or Olympics.

It will be meaningless for SS finals to be held if we see the same bunches of players from the same country who win in majority SS then continue to win in SS finals.

It will be meaningless for SS finals to be held if we see the same bunches of players from the same country who win in majority SS then continue to win in SS finals.

Russia dominates the WS sector in tennis. There are Sharapova, Myskina, Maria Kirilenko, Elena Dementieva, Svetlana Kuznetsova, and etc. Also, USA has 3 top players (Venus, Serena, Davenport). All of them are top players, that can win 1-2 titles in a single year. So, isn't it boring to see the WS winners always comes from USA and Russia?
Until now, I never heard any WTA policy likes the BWF.

Russia dominates the WS sector in tennis. There are Sharapova, Myskina, Maria Kirilenko, Elena Dementieva, Svetlana Kuznetsova, and etc. Also, USA has 3 top players (Venus, Serena, Davenport). All of them are top players, that can win 1-2 titles in a single year. So, isn't it boring to see the WS winners always comes from USA and Russia?
Until now, I never heard any WTA policy likes the BWF.

wat about Belgium's Kim Clijsters ?? Mary Pierce from France. CHN/ Japan/ Korea/Thai also have some good tennis players... Even players frm Czechs.. South Afica. Chile / Argentina / Spain etc....
We can simply names more than 10 countries who have top Tennis players wich ever won 1-2 titles in a year..
In badminton : CHN/MAS/INA/KOR/ENG/THA... how many? Less than 10 or even 6-7 countries !

wat about Belgium's Kim Clijsters ?? Mary Pierce from France. CHN/ Japan/ Korea/Thai also have some good tennis players... Even players frm Czechs.. South Afica. Chile / Argentina / Spain etc....
We can simply names more than 10 countries who have top Tennis players wich ever won 1-2 titles in a year..
In badminton : CHN/MAS/INA/KOR/ENG/THA... how many? Less than 10 or even 6-7 countries !

Please LOOK this list:

i completely agree...there's no way this injustice can be kepted...it's not a matter or always the same champions or whatever, cause any other country can produce a player and fight their way to win...and most players are playing for themselves rather than their country...so how does a 3rd chinese world ranking within 8 have to suffer even though he/she worked hard to get to that level and not be allowed to compete in the finals...that is like saying, you may as well just send primarily 2 players to ever super series, just so it can be fair that no other ones would make it anyways, regardless or rank...so save them the effort and energy...besides.....malaysia has like 6 MD pairs compaired to 1 CHN one lolz...how does those chances look in a regular super series lolz...although, in a finals, they only have 3 in top 8....

YES.. MAS do have 6 MD pairs .. Its similiar to CHN who dominate the ranking in MS/WS.. However. Did MAS ever cry foul for being limitted entry to Olympics/SS Finals?? Never !
This create a competitions among their own players.. Whoever Plays well .. Get choosen . That's simple.. Even u were rank top 10 in the world .. Does not meant you are the best from your country.. Simon ever overtake TH positions in the WR.. Will it meants he is the best INA hopes in WR compare to TH?

Players should keeps their form & produce results .. otherwise dont mentioned about fairness about selections !

Is it fair? If you are a Chinese player, how's your feeling?

BWF must adopted ATP (tennis). 8 best tennis players in WR can qualify into Masters Cup in Shanghai. There is no regulation about maximum 2 players from the same country.
IF I was the member of CHN Badminton teams.. I am sure i will plays to my best... IF i was not pick for SS Finals based on the ranking.. Then no choice..
Players from CHN has no options beside being peak all the time in years..
Its not the probe of the players.. Its come from Badminton Association of China ! That's the reason why CH leaves CHN team.. He is the 2nd best players after LD.. But was not selected for many major tournaments..(For some unknown reasons:?)
I will do the same as CH to quit CHN team.. And might as well represent others countries IF given the chance.. Players in CHN was simple unlucky coz they born in the countries which have so many talented Badminton players.. MAke it shorts.. U must be best of the best in CHN to get into SS Finals/ OG ! No questions about that

Alot of players now aims for the SS FINALS... After WC.. they are gearing up for it.

wat about men doub?
yeah...what about men doubles?

YES.. MAS do have 6 MD pairs .. Its similiar to CHN who dominate the ranking in MS/WS.. However. Did MAS ever cry foul for being limitted entry to Olympics/SS Finals?? Never !
This create a competitions among their own players.. Whoever Plays well .. Get choosen . That's simple.. Even u were rank top 10 in the world .. Does not meant you are the best from your country.. Simon ever overtake TH positions in the WR.. Will it meants he is the best INA hopes in WR compare to TH?

Players should keeps their form & produce results .. otherwise dont mentioned about fairness about selections !

too true, although answer me if you will, how are you going to show your true ability and strength if you are never being given the chance at high level tournaments? you may play well, have all the talent and skill in the world, but if are not selected to WC/OG, no one will ever know how good you are if you were chosen over someone else...for example....zhang jiewen...she's totally gone from the national team pretty much...yet you can't doubt she has tons of skill and talent that could very well dominate in any other part of the world...you do make a good point, but you do have to realise that politics play an enormous part in sports like badminton...;)

too true, although answer me if you will, how are you going to show your true ability and strength if you are never being given the chance at high level tournaments? you may play well, have all the talent and skill in the world, but if are not selected to WC/OG, no one will ever know how good you are if you were chosen over someone else...for example....zhang jiewen...she's totally gone from the national team pretty much...yet you can't doubt she has tons of skill and talent that could very well dominate in any other part of the world...you do make a good point, but you do have to realise that politics play an enormous part in sports like badminton...;)

Yes, the real victim is Xia Xuanze (World champion 2003). He can't defends his title coz the limitation entries from one country. Imagine if the victim is Taufik. Would he accepted it?

YES.. MAS do have 6 MD pairs .. Its similiar to CHN who dominate the ranking in MS/WS.. However. Did MAS ever cry foul for being limitted entry to Olympics/SS Finals?? Never !
This create a competitions among their own players.. Whoever Plays well .. Get choosen . That's simple.. Even u were rank top 10 in the world .. Does not meant you are the best from your country.. Simon ever overtake TH positions in the WR.. Will it meants he is the best INA hopes in WR compare to TH?

Players should keeps their form & produce results .. otherwise dont mentioned about fairness about selections !

MAS never dominates the badminton worlds, and they never won Uber Cup & Sudirman Cup.
How many titles that Malaysia can get within 1 tournament? And, the most important thing is none of Malaysian player had ever won the Olympics gold. Compare it to China.
It doesn't matter if Malaysia wants to protest it or not. The object of every BWF policy is clear : China's players:mad:.

YES.. MAS do have 6 MD pairs .. Its similiar to CHN who dominate the ranking in MS/WS.. However. Did MAS ever cry foul for being limitted entry to Olympics/SS Finals?? Never !
This create a competitions among their own players.. Whoever Plays well .. Get choosen . That's simple.. Even u were rank top 10 in the world .. Does not meant you are the best from your country.. Simon ever overtake TH positions in the WR.. Will it meants he is the best INA hopes in WR compare to TH?

Players should keeps their form & produce results .. otherwise dont mentioned about fairness about selections !

How many MAS players can qualify into OG / WC / SS finals? Again, compare it to China. As a big winners in so many tournaments, surely China is the only one victim of every BWF's regulation.

OK...Lets have an wild imagination for SS Finals match
MS Finals : LD vs BCL
MD Finals: FHF/CY vs GZD/XZB
WS Finals: ZN vs XXF
WD Finals : YW/ZTT vs GL/HS
XD Finals : ZB/GL vs XZB/ZYW

And the bronze medalist are:
CJ/CY (MS)
ZL/LL (WS)
HHB/SY & ZJ/ZB (MD)
ZYW/WYL & DJ/YY (WD)
ZJ/ZTT & HHB/YY (XD)
Who will have the interest to watch this Grand Prix Finals beside CHN Fans?
I doubt even CHN fans won't like to watch as well..
The most important thing iF We always See CHN vs CHN in any tournaments final days.. The sponsor will definately pull out one day..
Then BWF will have to looks for other optional sponsor wich wont invest much money for the badminton events in the future..
Takes the bigs NIKE/REEBOK for example.. Did they ever sponsor any badminton events? No? Why? Coz its clearly that they wont waste their $$ for a sport wich attract less audiences/ spectators due to a single conrty dominance !
$$$ does matter abover all the players interests in this world.. Accept it..

Please LOOK this list:

Pretty impressive research findings...
However... I dont see any continents outside ASIA/EUROPE/AUS/AMERICAN
to win any tournaments title..
In Tennis .. On top of that , they got Africa/ South American/ Ocennia/ Midditeranean countries... ALL the continents have a tennis champions ..
So dont ever challenge TEnnis status as no. 1 rackets sports in the world.

Yes, the real victim is Xia Xuanze (World champion 2003). He can't defends his title coz the limitation entries from one country. Imagine if the victim is Taufik. Would he accepted it?

ya it is true, i would've honestly liked xia to be allowed to defend his title...and if not, go out a champ, but he had a lot to offer still after 03...taufik...he still has a lot of badminton in him...but something tells me that he only wants to play and win the big ones...so he'll have to eventually accept not going to much tournaments, and only enough to qualify for WC/OG etc...INA does have a fair bit of talent in MS that are being developed...however for xia, as good as he was and talented...unfortunately, we all must realise that CHN has an abundance of talent EVERYWHERE =="...except for MD...they can afford to let Chen Hong go, and eventually Bao Chun Lai possibly...because they have sooo much talent to name in MS...Chen Jin and Chen Yu are just the beginning of the younger chinese talent taking over..there's Li Tian (who just won world jrs.) wie jie gong(who lost to chen jin in finals, i saw it in van city LOL)...and a whole bunch i don't wanna get into...lol..but because of enormous base of talent...you can understand that the chinese national team can afford to lose 1 or 2 players and still be respectable...but of course, that still doesn't mean it's fair to the players not being selected ;)

OK...Lets have an wild imagination for SS Finals match
MS Finals : LD vs BCL
MD Finals: FHF/CY vs GZD/XZB
WS Finals: ZN vs XXF
WD Finals : YW/ZTT vs GL/HS
XD Finals : ZB/GL vs XZB/ZYW

And the bronze medalist are:
CJ/CY (MS)
ZL/LL (WS)
HHB/SY & ZJ/ZB (MD)
ZYW/WYL & DJ/YY (WD)
ZJ/ZTT & HHB/YY (XD)
Who will have the interest to watch this Grand Prix Finals beside CHN Fans?
I doubt even CHN fans won't like to watch as well..
The most important thing iF We always See CHN vs CHN in any tournaments final days.. The sponsor will definately pull out one day..
Then BWF will have to looks for other optional sponsor wich wont invest much money for the badminton events in the future..
Takes the bigs NIKE/REEBOK for example.. Did they ever sponsor any badminton events? No? Why? Coz its clearly that they wont waste their $$ for a sport wich attract less audiences/ spectators due to a single conrty dominance !
$$$ does matter abover all the players interests in this world.. Accept it..

although i do agree with what you're saying, but do you have any other option unless you "grant" other lesser countries byes into the finals or something? ;):D i mean of course the entire world must be exposed to badminton in order to sell it...such as PHY and XHW did to france and germany respectively...but you do have to respect china's enormous amount of talent, lolz...cause what are you gunna do...just ban them out so other nations will have a chance? lolz..the only thing we can do is the only thing that's set out for everyone...to have limitations...granted i don't agree with how fair that is to the players' points of view, since they all work just as hard...but if they worked hard for it to get into the finals, don't bash them for another country to sell it...they earned it lolz...:D but do remember that there are people who are fans OF THE SPORT and OF SOME PLAYERS, and not OF THE COUNTRIES..so there still will be people watching lin dan or bao chun lai...but in the end, to sell it, we have to have other country to champion an event, so having the US win MDs was a good start...it's a slow start but eventually, we start building fans of the sport itself and fans of multicultural players, and everyone will watch regardless of country the players are from ;)

OK...Lets have an wild imagination for SS Finals match
MS Finals : LD vs BCL
MD Finals: FHF/CY vs GZD/XZB
WS Finals: ZN vs XXF
WD Finals : YW/ZTT vs GL/HS
XD Finals : ZB/GL vs XZB/ZYW

And the bronze medalist are:
CJ/CY (MS)
ZL/LL (WS)
HHB/SY & ZJ/ZB (MD)
ZYW/WYL & DJ/YY (WD)
ZJ/ZTT & HHB/YY (XD)
Who will have the interest to watch this Grand Prix Finals beside CHN Fans?
I doubt even CHN fans won't like to watch as well..
The most important thing iF We always See CHN vs CHN in any tournaments final days.. The sponsor will definately pull out one day..
Then BWF will have to looks for other optional sponsor wich wont invest much money for the badminton events in the future..
Takes the bigs NIKE/REEBOK for example.. Did they ever sponsor any badminton events? No? Why? Coz its clearly that they wont waste their $$ for a sport wich attract less audiences/ spectators due to a single conrty dominance !
$$$ does matter abover all the players interests in this world.. Accept it..

lolz i just thought of something, like...you don't see many people watching tennis as country of nations or whatever...you see them as players individually...so fans are being reached because they are fans of a specific player...like federer...no one is imposing that the swiss are dominant...but they are LOL....just that people don't care...and they like either federer or nadal or roddick....and no countries are implied...which is why tennis is so popular...

on second thought, BWF shouldn't impose limits, but instead place tournaments at places of non-importance of the sport, like australia or canada, or south africa, and such, and the slowly earn a fan base of fans that support only players and does not focus on the countries itself...only the media projects country vs country and so on ;)

lolz i just thought of something, like...you don't see many people watching tennis as country of nations or whatever...you see them as players individually...so fans are being reached because they are fans of a specific player...like federer...no one is imposing that the swiss are dominant...but they are LOL....just that people don't care...and they like either federer or nadal or roddick....and no countries are implied...which is why tennis is so popular...

on second thought, BWF shouldn't impose limits, but instead place tournaments at places of non-importance of the sport, like australia or canada, or south africa, and such, and the slowly earn a fan base of fans that support only players and does not focus on the countries itself...only the media projects country vs country and so on ;)
IF BWF were to place the tournaments in the countries like AUS/CAN/RSA...etc..CHN will definitely send their contingents to participate on those "tiny" nations.. W/O limitation by BWF.. It will eventually end out with ALL CHN players affairs in the Finals/SF/QF depends on the amount of the players who being send by ChN Team. Coz Don't u are to expect Canada Players like Bobby Milroy, AUS player like ROSS Smith who can upset Even the CHN Juniors lke GWJ. LQQ in their home ground... LOLZ
Where else in Tennis. Powerhouse such like US. Russia..or Swiss....etc they normally wont send any players to lesser-popular nations in Tennis. They doesn't need approval frm WTA coz they know IF wanna promote the sports among ALL nations, No Point to whack the home players like a bunch of school kids infront of their own supporters..:D:D

Furthermore... No 1 mention about the countries differences in Tennis coz no nations in the world as dominant as CHN for Badminton as in TEnnis.. I believe any non-badmintons fans can name ONLY CHN players while mention about Badminton.. They simple won't know any other players. While in Tennis..Even non-fans also will get to know players names frm Russia. Swiss.Spain etc.. Due to publicity of the sports makes ppls understand that no single countries in the world always have a clean sweep in any Tennis Tournaments.. As simple as that...LOLZ

IF BWF were to place the tournaments in the countries like AUS/CAN/RSA...etc..CHN will definitely send their contingents to participate on those "tiny" nations.. W/O limitation by BWF.. It will eventually end out with ALL CHN players affairs in the Finals/SF/QF depends on the amount of the players who being send by ChN Team. Coz Don't u are to expect Canada Players like Bobby Milroy, AUS player like ROSS Smith who can upset Even the CHN Juniors lke GWJ. LQQ in their home ground... LOLZ
Where else in Tennis. Powerhouse such like US. Russia..or Swiss....etc they normally wont send any players to lesser-popular nations in Tennis. They doesn't need approval frm WTA coz they know IF wanna promote the sports among ALL nations, No Point to whack the home players like a bunch of school kids infront of their own supporters..:D:D

Furthermore... No 1 mention about the countries differences in Tennis coz no nations in the world as dominant as CHN for Badminton as in TEnnis.. I believe any non-badmintons fans can name ONLY CHN players while mention about Badminton.. They simple won't know any other players. While in Tennis..Even non-fans also will get to know players names frm Russia. Swiss.Spain etc.. Due to publicity of the sports makes ppls understand that no single countries in the world always have a clean sweep in any Tennis Tournaments.. As simple as that...LOLZ

obviously publicity is a problem in any small stature sports, but that's something we can't control just yet, until we grow the popularity among children and so on....however, i still believe that any non-fans of badminton that can name any big names of badminton, whether from china or not, is a big step towards getting badminton as a big popular sport...soon people will know that players like gade and taufik and lee choong wei could compete with the best of chinese players, and it can spread out from there...obviously having completely chinese players in the super series final would be pretty bad for any other fans other than fans of chinese players and the chinese national team...but for me, i don't think you can dispute talent...now if there was amazingly talented players from other countries that are not allowed to compete in the super series, then that would very unjust...but the reason why chinese players are in finals and such are because they ARE that good, and they fight to have a chance to be champion, and deservedly so...however, on the point of having tournaments in non-badminton traditonal countries such as canada and such, i still think that the exposure that is gained would be very beneficial...many north american players go to asian countries to develope and strengthen their talents and come back to their country stronger...so even though it may be an all china final in a tournament in something like the canadian open, it'd be beneficial to expose that type of talent and high level competition to every serious badminton player in that country...something to work for, type of thing...;);)...i'd know i wouldn't mind watching ANY high level badminton player play, and study and watch their technique...any exposure is GOOD exposure...however small steps they may be :D:D

OK...Lets have an wild imagination for SS Finals match
MS Finals : LD vs BCL
MD Finals: FHF/CY vs GZD/XZB
WS Finals: ZN vs XXF
WD Finals : YW/ZTT vs GL/HS
XD Finals : ZB/GL vs XZB/ZYW

And the bronze medalist are:
CJ/CY (MS)
ZL/LL (WS)
HHB/SY & ZJ/ZB (MD)
ZYW/WYL & DJ/YY (WD)
ZJ/ZTT & HHB/YY (XD)
Who will have the interest to watch this Grand Prix Finals beside CHN Fans?
I doubt even CHN fans won't like to watch as well..
The most important thing iF We always See CHN vs CHN in any tournaments final days.. The sponsor will definately pull out one day..
Then BWF will have to looks for other optional sponsor wich wont invest much money for the badminton events in the future..
Takes the bigs NIKE/REEBOK for example.. Did they ever sponsor any badminton events? No? Why? Coz its clearly that they wont waste their $$ for a sport wich attract less audiences/ spectators due to a single conrty dominance !
$$$ does matter abover all the players interests in this world.. Accept it..

We must think about the players too, not only the spectators, sponsor, and etc. Yes, spectators and sponsor is needed to promotes this game, but we must concern also about the players. It is really unfair for them.

I am sorry to say it , but all of us must admit that MONEY IS ABOVE ALL in this materialistic modern world..
If you were the family in CHina.. Would you like your son to be a successful athletes like Liu Xiang or Badminton Top 1 players as LD??
It will be crazy to choose LD coz Liu Xiang income is the top among all the athletes in the world !

It will be crazy to choose LD coz Liu Xiang income is the top among all the athletes in the world !

Are you crazy?
He is richer than the F1 drivers like Kimi Raikkonen? and Alonso?

I am sorry to say it , but all of us must admit that MONEY IS ABOVE ALL in this materialistic modern world..
If you were the family in CHina.. Would you like your son to be a successful athletes like Liu Xiang or Badminton Top 1 players as LD??
It will be crazy to choose LD coz Liu Xiang income is the top among all the athletes in the world !

Yao Ming is richer than Liu Xiang. No doubt!

Who cares..damn it....what we wanna see is good matches, skills, performance and definitely a good exciting match....

Who cares..damn it....what we wanna see is good matches, skills, performance and definitely a good exciting match....

Therefore BWF shouldn't limit the maximum entries from one country, so WR #1-8 in SS standings will qualify into SS finals, so we can get an exciting match. Imagine if WR # 20 and above also qualify into SS finals. How we can get an interesting match?

Well said! Torres! Great points.

Well, just curious what the qualifiers' list would look like if the qualifiers are to be decided by the current SS ranking list (so, just hypothetical ...),

1. LD (CHN #1 - in)
2. BCL (CHN # 2 - in)
3. CJ (CHN #3 - out)
4. LCW (MAS #1 - in)
5. CY (CHN #4 - out)
6. PG (DEN #1 - in)
7. KJ (DEN #2 - in)
8. Sony (INA #1 - in)
9. Boonsak (THA #1 - in)
10. Shoji (JAP #1 - in)

Looks okay with me except for the inclusion of Shoji - I wish it's Taufik [#21] or even Wacha [#17] instead (so even with the country limit rule in place, they still couldn't make it). A tournament with half of the players coming from the same country is far less interesting to me.

Therefore BWF shouldn't limit the maximum entries from one country, so WR #1-8 in SS standings will qualify into SS finals, so we can get an exciting match. Imagine if WR # 20 and above also qualify into SS finals. How we can get an interesting match?

It's possible but damn unlikely that such a scenario could happen. Under normal circumstances, the top-10 players or pairs are pretty close in their game standards and therefore, what makes such a tournament really interesting is the variety of the countries that the participants represent. Look at the above scenario, the two Chen's are sacrificed (Chen Hong is ranked #16 and therefore not qualified in the first place) but the dangerous Boonsak is "inducted". Shoji is the weakest link but he might be replaced by Simon, Hafiz, Susilo, WCH, Wacha or even Taufik after a few more SS tournaments.

WS
1. XXF (CHN #1 - in)
2. XHW (GER #1 - in)
3. ZL (CHN #2 - in)
4. ZN (CHN #3 - out)
5. PHY (FRA #1 - in)
6. LL (CHN #4 - out)
7. WC (HKG #1 - in)
8. Petya (BUL #1 - in)
9. Eriko (JAP #1 - in)
10. WMC (MAS #1 - in)

Wow! WMC barely makes it. Poor Zhang Ning.

MD
1. CY/FHF (CHN #1 - in)
2. KKK/TBH (MAS #1 - in)
3. CW/TG (INA #1 & USA #1 - in)
4. MK/HS (INA #1.5 - in)
5. JE/MLH (DEN #1 - in)
6. CTF/LWW (MAS #2 - in)
7. Gunawan/Riyado (INA #2.5 - out?)
8. TBS/OSH (MAS #3 - out)
9. JJS/LYD (KOR #1 - in)
10. Logosz/Mateusiak (POL #1 - in?)

WD
1. ZYW/WYL (CHN #1 - in)
2. ZTT/YW (CHN #2 - in)
3. Polii/Marissa (INA #1 - in)
4. GL/HS (CHN #3 - out)
5. Emms/Kellogg (ENG #1 - in)
6. LKW/LHJ (KOR #1 - in)
7. JYM/LYJ (SIN #1 - in)
8. DJ/YY (CHN #4 - out)
9. Endang/Rani (INA #2 - in)
10. Nicole/Julianne (GER #1 - in)

XD
1. ZB/GL (CHN #1 - in)
2. Nova/Lilyanna (INA #1 - in)
3. XZB/ZYW (CHN #2 - in)
4. Robertson/Emms (ENG #1 - in)
5. Clark/Kellogg (ENG #2 - in)
6. Limpele/Marissa (INA #2 - in)
7. ZJ/ZTT (CHN #3 - out)
8. Mateusiak/Kostiuczyk (POL #1 - in)
9. Sudket/Saralee (THA #1 - in)

Tallies:

MS :-
- CHN & DEN - 2 each
- MAS, THA & JAP - 1 each
- "sacrificed" - CHN - 2

WS :-
- CHN - 2
- JAP, GER, FRA, HKG & BUL - 1 each
- "sacrificed" - CHN - 2

MD :-
- MAS - 2
- INA - 1.5
- CHN, DEN, KOR & POL - 1 each
- USA - 0.5
- "sacrificed" - MAS & INA - 1 each

WD :-
- CHN & INA - 2 each
- GER, KOR, ENG & SIN - 1 each
- "sacrificed" - CHN - 2

XD :-
- CHN, INA & ENG - 2 each
- THA & POL - 1 each
- "sacrificed" - CHN - 1

Overall :-
- CHN - 9 ("sacrificed" - 7)
- INA - 6.5 ("sacrificed" - 1)
- MAS - 4 ("sacrificed" - 1)
- DEN & ENG - 3
- KOR, POL, THA, GER & JAP - 2 each
- FRA, HKG, SIN & BUL - 1 each
- USA - 0.5

TOTALLY UNFAIR. ALWAYS DISCRIMINATE CHINESE PLAYERS. BWF HATES CHINESE:mad:

Don't simply make statements like that. You make BWF sound rascist.

BWF hates a single country dominating the sport. This dominant country happens to be CHN. It's vastly different from saying BWF hates Chinese.

:D:D;) the more accurate phrase would be, BWF would like to "control" how well the chinese could do, by setting limits on the number of players they can send...therefore, giving more opportunity to everyone else from different countries and spread the goodwill sport of badminton, no? :D:D

:D:D;) the more accurate phrase would be, BWF would like to "control" how well the chinese could do, by setting limits on the number of players they can send...therefore, giving more opportunity to everyone else from different countries and spread the goodwill sport of badminton, no? :D:D

Yo ! That's wat i'm talking bout !

whether it is fair to the players or not is different though ;), i wish chen hong would've gotten a special invitation or a qualifying spot....i sure would love to see him upset gade XD...

its a max of 4, hehe in the mens doubles indo have like 2.5 pairs available cos candra and tony are like a half half pair apparently


how come tony wont rep. indo anyways...? :S i think it would look better if he represents indo for the SS

thank cxytdn for pointing that only 2 players per county. I haven't read the rules yet.

But it is so unfair. WBF claims that county will not be an issue any more in super series, which means treat every player equally regardless their country. But in fact, what they want is just let Chinese fight Chinese in the first round, and in the SS final, even the top 3,4,5 cannot get qualified. Currently, there are 5 Chinese players in the top 8 world ranking. It is unfair for those Chinese players.

I feel that WBF rules are almost trying to contain Chinese players. There is no such rule in snooker. There are all Brits in the snooker grand prix final except one Chinese and one Australian.

That's the reason badminton can never got popular. People cannot trust the champions, there are more equally good players not in the tournaments.

Agree with you 100%

IF Based on ranking now in SS series, Chen Jin and Chen Yu had to give their spot to Bonsak and Shoji Sato.

Bonsak still quite alright, but Shoji Shato????

If the matches divide into 2 group, the players with Shoji in his group will be so lucky cause he is surely the weakest one. And this is BWF will try to made badminton more popular by giving a spot for Shoji Sato in final 8?

Anyway, for a sport organization, this BWF rules really is the most stupid one. People wanted to see good matches. If you promote that SS finals only had 8 of the most top badminton players from each category, you should had to back it up.

Reality, not all the best will play in SS final thanks to 2 players from each country and the subtitute maybe will not be so good as the original top 8.

What a shame.

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Total dominant of CHN Players in badminton is not healthy for this sports !!
WBF is doing the right thing ! IF a singled country keeps on dominant .. The sports events are in dangered of excluded for a event to compete in OG !
If badminton needs to be popular & displaced Tennis as no.1 racket sports in the world.. We needs to see more country to challenge CHN in the future.. As frm now only INA/MAS/KOR/DEN/ENG.. Less Than 10 countries are capable for doing that.. How this sports can become popular in the world??

What a laugh!

Thats why badminton never be as popular as tennis. Too country centris. Most of badminton fans only love or idolize players from their own country.

Russia also dominant in women tennis specially in 2004. In year end event where only 8 top WS tennis player can participate, there are 5 Russia girl there. But still the tournaments pack with crowds and sponsors.

Tennis already a global sports. The fans didnot had to idolize players from his own country (although that will not hurt)

Example: Roger Federer and rafael nadal. They had huge fans basis no matter where they play even in Asia here. I am Roger fans even if he did not from Indonesia just cause he play very good tennis. Not from where he come from.

IBF/ BWF from the start already made badminton like a country sports not individual ones. And with this all kind of rules, even in 50 years ahead, badminton will never be as popular as tennis.

Hei .. The world not only have Chinese ok ! The BWF is doing the right thing to makes the sports popular among all nations/ race .. Which is damn right thing and comply th Olympic Spirits !

table tennis, snow boarding, sailings are some came to my mind that are dominated by even fewer countries than badminton. There's no talk of them being drop from the OG.

World Top 10 - Gold Medal Winning Countries in Table Tennis
Country International Table Tennis Federation (IITF)
Men's Women's Total
China 41.5 48.0 89.5

Hungary 42.0 26.0 68.0
Japan 23.5 23.5 47.0

Czech Republic 17.5 10.5 28.0
Romania ------ 17.0 17.0

UK 8.0 6.0 14.0
Sweden 14.0 ---- 14.0

USA 5.0 5.0 10.0
Austria 3.0 3.0 6.0

Germany 1.0 4.0 5.0

The most laughable thing of all for the Champion of the SS series titles:

Cause he or she can never boasted, he/she is the top badminton players even if he win this title cause not all top 8 players play here.

Better be All England champion than SS series final champion cause usually all of the best players will play All England except for injured or something specific reason.

Guys before we pass judgement on success and failures of attempts made by BWF try to understand the thought process going into the attempt.

The NSS , the organising of the SS this year are all initiatives being made by the BWF to popularise the game(lets leave the right or wrong bit aside for the moment)

Some of these attempts will work, some wont but a lot will improve and refine thru trial and error. I agree that the administrators of the sport have at times come across as bueraucratic, but instead of blatant critisism we as fans of the game need to look at ways of learning from the rights and wrongs of the happenings of the badminton world.

We also need to honestly look and set short term goals(this needs to be the objective of badminton this year-proportionate tournament offerings for players from all fedrerations asia,ocenia,europe,pan am) This is a step by step process and shall take time to refine.

Pls remember we are still a long way from enjoying popularity as tennis but im sure u all will agree that badminton has spread more across the world evry year on year....

According to the regulations,one country maximum can only represent 2 player or pairs in this ss final.So below are the latest qualification of ss final after china master:

MEN SINGLE
1. Lin Dan
2. Bao Chunlai
3. Lee Chong Wei
4. Gade Peter
5. Jonassen Kenneth
6. Sony Dwi Kuncoro
7. Boonsak Ponsana
8. Sato Shoji

Women Single
1. Xie xingfang
2. Xu Huai Wen
3. Zhu Lin
4. Pi Hong Yan
5. Wang Chen
6. Nedelcheva Petya
7. Hirose Eriko
8. Wong Mew Choo/Yip Pui Yin/Yao Jie

I feel that if until finish 12 tournaments,this three people also same points,then i think wong mew choo will qualify.Because each have 8 super series tournaments,yip pui yin and yao jie have one quarter-finalist and one semi-finalist each,but wong mew choo have one runner-up and one quarter-finalist.......So i think because mew choo best performance(runner up) good than yao jie and yip pui yin one(semi-finalist),so i think if after 12 ss series also like this,mew choo will qualify.I think mew choo still have chance la.....coz hirose eriko now hurt......and after the wbc,mew choo world ranking will break into 9,although she cannot be a seed,but i think her draw not so tough if compare to the before one le......

According to the regulations,one country maximum can only represent 2 player or pairs in this ss final.So below are the latest qualification of ss final after china master:

MEN SINGLE
1. Lin Dan
2. Bao Chunlai
3. Lee Chong Wei
4. Gade Peter
5. Jonassen Kenneth
6. Sony Dwi Kuncoro
7. Boonsak Ponsana
8. Sato Shoji



The list would have been perfect if TH able to displace Sato by the end of Qualification Periods.

I don't know why all of you are arguing.
It's only one out of 12 SS tournaments which only allows 2 players per country.
I love chinese players like LD, BCL and Chen Yu.
I love many players like Taufik, Gade, Jonassen, Shoji, Boonsak, Sony, even if they aren't as dominant.
But to only see chinese players in the final event? That sucks.

The list would have been perfect if TH able to displace Sato by the end of Qualification Periods.

I happen to agree with you, samuel... Sorry Sato, some of us just want to see Taufik more than you... Even the TV broadcasters would like to see Taufik. Better for TV ratings and worldwide-fan-attention... :D

One thing about that list: even though Bao is ranked higher than Chen Jin, LYB might choose to rely on Chen Jin more... thus he might just choose Chen Jin. Wah, all the female BC fans will grill LYB if he really did it... ;)

LYB might stick to choose Bao CL base on 2 factors :

1. Bao perfomance always been stable in Major tournament compare with CJ

2. Bao is popular among all those female fans .. He needs to get support frm them to end his winless streak in hunting for major crown :p

lee yong-dae n jjs will definitely get into ss finals!!!

Guys before we pass judgement on success and failures of attempts made by BWF try to understand the thought process going into the attempt.

The NSS , the organising of the SS this year are all initiatives being made by the BWF to popularise the game(lets leave the right or wrong bit aside for the moment)

Some of these attempts will work, some wont but a lot will improve and refine thru trial and error. I agree that the administrators of the sport have at times come across as bueraucratic, but instead of blatant critisism we as fans of the game need to look at ways of learning from the rights and wrongs of the happenings of the badminton world.

We also need to honestly look and set short term goals(this needs to be the objective of badminton this year-proportionate tournament offerings for players from all fedrerations asia,ocenia,europe,pan am) This is a step by step process and shall take time to refine.

Pls remember we are still a long way from enjoying popularity as tennis but im sure u all will agree that badminton has spread more across the world evry year on year....

Well, I happen to agree with you, avataar. I observe that the sheer number of tournaments and participants this year has been outstanding compared to 2006. I give a thumbs up to BWF for this... :) Puerto Rico, Mexico, Suriname has BWF sanctioned tournaments now. How about that?!? :D

Regarding the player-centris or country-centris... In the future, I hope badminton becomes more like soccer where there's quite a balance in player-centris, club-centris, and country-centris... ;)

According to the regulations,one country maximum can only represent 2 player or pairs in this ss final.So below are the latest qualification of ss final after china master:
The list would have been perfect if TH able to displace Sato by the end of Qualification Periods.
..according to the regulation, if 1 country can represent, at maximum, 2 players or pairs, then i would say Sony AND Taufik will make it;):)..I also feel this could be a preview of next yr's Olympics, where only 2 representatives, in each event, can represent a country..;):cool:

We should think these as follows:

1. the World/SS Ranking of Chinese players/pairs NOW:eek:：

MS 5 out of WR TOP8 (1,2,3,5,7) / 4 out of SS Ranking (1,2,3,5)
WS 4 out of WR TOP8 (1,2,3,7) / 4 out of SS Ranking (1,3,4,6)
MD 1 out of WR TOP8 (1) / 1 out of SS Ranking (1)
WD 4 out of WR TOP8 (1,2,3,5) / 4 out of SS Ranking (1,2,4,8)
XD 3 out of WR TOP8 (1,3,8) / 3 out of SS Ranking (1,3,7)
Average：17 out of 40-42.5% / 16 out of 40-40%

2. World Champion/Olympic Champion NOW:cool::

MS World Champion Lin Dan
WS World Champion Zhu Lin / Olympic Champion Zhang Ning
MS World and Olympic Champion Zhang Jiewen/Yang Wei
XD Olympic Champion Zhang Jun/Gao Ling

If China don't go to play, the Finals look like .............:rolleyes: BUT Lee CW maybe get MS Champion this time:p

LYB might stick to choose Bao CL base on 2 factors :

1. Bao perfomance always been stable in Major tournament compare with CJ

2. Bao is popular among all those female fans .. He needs to get support frm them to end his winless streak in hunting for major crown :p

If it plays at Doha....I am not sure if BCL will be popular among Middle easterners....:(:(

Who cares if he is popular or not in Doha.

..according to the regulation, if 1 country can represent, at maximum, 2 players or pairs, then i would say Sony AND Taufik will make it;):)..I also feel this could be a preview of next yr's Olympics, where only 2 representatives, in each event, can represent a country..;):cool:

It is possible to get 3 representatives in every category of Olympics badminton. Provided that they are ranked between 1 to 4 in the BWF world rankings. :p The Olympic qualification regulation said so... ;)

Superpower China will probably have 3 representatives in MS, WS, WD... Most other powerful badminton countries like INA, MAS, DEN will have 2 representatives in most categories...

TOTALLY UNFAIR. ALWAYS DISCRIMINATE CHINESE PLAYERS. BWF HATES CHINESE:mad:

not true, it is just that BWF loves badminton more than china............:D:D:D nothing wrong with that. It's BWF not BCF, Badminton China Federation.

OK...Lets have an wild imagination for SS Finals match
MS Finals : LD vs BCL
MD Finals: FHF/CY vs GZD/XZB
WS Finals: ZN vs XXF
WD Finals : YW/ZTT vs GL/HS
XD Finals : ZB/GL vs XZB/ZYW

And the bronze medalist are:
CJ/CY (MS)
ZL/LL (WS)
HHB/SY & ZJ/ZB (MD)
ZYW/WYL & DJ/YY (WD)
ZJ/ZTT & HHB/YY (XD)
Who will have the interest to watch this Grand Prix Finals beside CHN Fans?
I doubt even CHN fans won't like to watch as well..
The most important thing iF We always See CHN vs CHN in any tournaments final days.. The sponsor will definately pull out one day..
Then BWF will have to looks for other optional sponsor wich wont invest much money for the badminton events in the future..
Takes the bigs NIKE/REEBOK for example.. Did they ever sponsor any badminton events? No? Why? Coz its clearly that they wont waste their $$ for a sport wich attract less audiences/ spectators due to a single conrty dominance !
$$$ does matter abover all the players interests in this world.. Accept it..

ill prefer to watch
Days of our Lives than the SS finals if it's going to be all China finals.:D:D:D:D

ill prefer to watch
Days of our Lives than the SS finals if it's going to be all China finals.:D:D:D:D


Haiya... do you come across any badminton players wearing REEBOK or NIKE attires or shoes when on court? Sure laa, different maaa... YONEX oredi monopolized the sponsorship oredi. Big boys like NIKE and REEBOX won't want to compete with small players like YONEX... waste revenue and drop their standard, unless someday BADMINTON become a BIG sports with big big price money like tennis... LOL :D:D:D

Why does the quota per country is still needed in Badminton ?. Here are my takes,
1. Players need to start developing their own personality, so fans will start associating themselves with players first and country second. Start by learning communication skill, give better comment than ' i will try my best ', ' the best player win '. These comments are rubbish, waste of newspaper space. That is why there are so little written about badminton as the players and coaches are crap at communication skill and say nothing newsworthy.
2. The frequent WO when matches involve China vs China. Stupid is stupid does. With every wo/retired, it is a two-step backward for badminton. Again, even if the game is played, still not many people interested. Why ?. See 1. No personality!. When Pete Sampras vs Andre Agassi were on, fans were watching with great interest as they take side. Still not happening in badminton yet as players are not iconic enough.

3. So, players, coaches, do your homework for the good of badminton. Do yourself a favor to get the game interesting and fan interested starting with yourself.

women singles ranking with 10 best tournament

1.XIE Xingfang 78040
2.ZHANG Ning 66940
3.LU Lan 59960
4.ZHU Lin 57140
5.PI Hongyan 55800
6.XU Huaiwen 50340
7.WANG Chen 47360
8.WONG Mew Choo 45920
9.TINE Ramussen 43100
10.YIP Pui Yin 41760
11.HIROSE Eriko 38940
12.NEDELCHEVA Petya 36180

Wow... Hafiz no.8 with china out and Taufik INA no.3 :mad:

so who are the players that are going to play ni SS finals?can anyone tell me..hehe..:confused::confused:

MS

1. Lee Chong Wei ( MAS )
2. Peter Gade ( DEN)
3. Kenneth Jonassen ( DEN )
4. Sony Dwi Kuncoro ( INA )
5. Boonsak Ponsana ( THA )
6. Shoji Sato ( JAP )
7. Simon Santoso ( INA )
8. Hafiz Hashim ( MAS )

Kendrick Lee;), of course, plus it is the finale of SS, oh never mind just a SS event:D:o:cool::eek::p:rolleyes::crying: