China Masters 2007 - July 15 - Finals

[Wai Shing]

it will be mighty difficult for WCH to come back at this point.

against me, maybe, but not against LD.

well, against me, he wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place..

you would've made the finals in the Chinas Masters? lol:D

[madbad]

Boy, has LD even turned on the afterburners 18-7. The draft must be confusing WCH too.

[madbad]

it will be mighty difficult for WCH to come back at this point.

against me, maybe, but not against LD.

well, against me, he wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place..

If he hadn't beaten WACHA, he wouldn't have got into this mess

[Felicia_txh]

LD only needs 3 points then he can win the title..18-8

[jbchiong]

That's it for WCH. He can't win it.

[jbchiong]

WCH commits too many unforced errors. Too bad for him.

[madbad]

It's over. LD wins with relative ease 21-19, 21-9

[liangyuanruo]

kwun do you have a BWF ranking by any chance?

[Felicia_txh]

WCH lost 9-21 to LD..haih..

[yingcheng]

coming next is WS..

XXF add oil!!!

[madbad]

It's been a massacre so far. All red flags on the winner's side and tattered remains of an assortment of others on the defeated.

[taufik-ist]

wacha could do more :)

[Wong8Egg]

congrats to LD but also congrats WCH for making it into the final.

Looks like China will sweep all 5 titles now.

[taufik-ist]

It's been a massacre so far. All red flags on the winner's side and tattered remains of an assortment of others on the defeated.

don't worry...... the last match will be "red and white" :D

[kwun]

so LD won.

very good display of skills and awareness by the veteran WCH on the first game. it was very close and i thought he could've pulled 20-all but he narrowly missed the opportunity.

on 2nd WCH just couldn't get used to the faster side of the court and LD took advantage of that. nearly 1/2 the points that WCH got in the 2nd game was of LD's errors. WCH slowed down even more on the latter half the game and there was just no way for him to come back after LD stepped up his pace. but despite so, WCH showed some good fighting spirit when all the elements are against him.

[huangkwokhau]

the final matches are not exciting....all winners won in 2 sets.....
We need INA WD, last hope to prevent CHN's clean sweep

[Han]

At this age, Choon Hann just doesn't have the speed and power to match the younger and talented Lin Dan. Even Choon Hann setup for the kill or in the position to win the point, his strenght and speed failed him. Still proud of Choon Hann for able to fight his way deep into the round.

[Wong8Egg]

don't worry...... the last match will be "red and white" :D


I have my heart all on the Indo's WD now. But the chance of them lifting the CO cup??? Hardly over 20%...:(

[narnia]

I see WCH decided to be satisfied with runner-up.. He's just happy!! :)

[Han]

I have my heart all on the Indo's WD now. But the chance of them lifting the CO cup??? Hardly over 20%...:(

As long as is not Chinese vs Chinese then is still worth watching if the macth is not walkover :D

[Wai Shing]

Props to WCH for making it this far...one of my fav players. Took out Chen Hong, Sony K and used his wits to outplay Wacha.

[taufik-ist]

1st set : XXf wins
2nd set : ZN wins
3rd set : ZN wins

[Felicia_txh]

I see WCH decided to be satisfied with runner-up.. He's just happy!! :)
Because finally he can stand on the stage n receive the trophy again fr the organiser after a long long time..:);)

[huangkwokhau]

Hope ZN wins...come on ZN!!

[kwun]

XXF's new hairstyle is horrible.

[kenny7_2006]

Great fight by WCH, too bad about the draft in the stadium....

Congrats LD...

[kwun]

it is so great that when XXZ and ZN steps into the same court, they play the match as if they are in the Olympics final instead of just a training match.

[armortecfans]

Umpires, Linemen are all chineses..

How can china do that in BWF SS???

It is indeed strange, why are all of them Chinese?
I do not say that Chinese is unfair, but this kind of thing could derive an opinion that bad calls may happen to non-Chinese players.

Anyway, Chinese players seem play quite well today, excluding all the bad calls.

In my opinion, IBF should think about this matter. I think it might be better if the umpire and service judge are not from the countries of the players which are playing. So, for example, as China has all its players in each field, so there should be NO CHINESE umpire and service judge.

Hope IBF will think about this. This is indeed to make badminton more popular in this earth.

[cooler]

At this age, Choon Hann just doesn't have the speed and power to match the younger and talented Lin Dan. Even Choon Hann setup for the kill or in the position to win the point, his strenght and speed failed him. Still proud of Choon Hann for able to fight his way deep into the round.
actually, the most suprising result (IMO) of this event is WCH making to the final which is a huge achievement already.

[jbchiong]

it is so great that when XXZ and ZN steps into the same court, they play the match as if they are in the Olympics final instead of just a training match.

Not this time. ZN was commiting a lot of unforced errors.

[kenny7_2006]

yeah, WCH played very well all week, as if he's making a statement that he's not finished yet...

hope he continues this form all the way!

[jbchiong]

18 -8? Pathetic!!! Is this the Zhang Ning I know?

[yingcheng]

XXF's new hairstyle is horrible.

agree. i dun like her new hairstyle:crying::crying:

anyway, jia you XXF!!!

[liangyuanruo]

Not this time. ZN was commiting a lot of unforced errors.

true. but think of it as an off-form ZN playing in the OG finals =D:D

[huangkwokhau]

XXF shows no mercy to ZN....

[Inky2000]

Calculated next Thursday's MS rankings ...

1(no change) LD
2(-) CH
3(-) LCW (if LCW had entered to CM final, he would have replaced CH to be World No.2. However, LCW has closed up the gap - only about 500 WR points apart.)
4(-) CJ
5(-) BCL
6(+1) PG
7(-1) CY
8(+1) KJ
9(+1) TH
10(-2) BP
11(-) Sony
12(-) Shoji
13(+4) Wacha
14(-) Hafiz
15(+10) WCH
16(-1) Ronald
17(-4) Dicky
18(+4) Simon
19(-3) LTS
20(-2) Andrew

PSH and Ng Wei, currently ranked 19th & 20th respectively, will be dropped out of top-20 in 4 days' time.

[jbchiong]

true. but think of it as an off-form ZN playing in the OG finals =D:D

Preposterous!!! Ridiculous!!! Absurd!!! Unacceptable!!!

And ofcourse, Pathetic!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

ZN WAKE UP!!!

[huangkwokhau]

It is better that umpire/service judges are not chinese when the matches involve chinese players....to avoid any accusation from others...like today INA MD got questionable calls....it might affect their play and concentration....anyway...better next time

[madbad]

agree. i dun like her new hairstyle:crying::crying:

anyway, jia you XXF!!!

Is the game that uninteresting that hairstyle is the best thing we can talk about? I agree though :D:D

[kwun]

true. but think of it as an off-form ZN playing in the OG finals =D:D

yeah. my point is that they try to give their best performance regardless of their opponents. ZN does show that she is rather out of shape and off form.

[orchiid]

XXF's new hairstyle is horrible.
as long as Lin dan like it:D

[liangyuanruo]

Preposterous!!! Ridiculous!!! Absurd!!! Unacceptable!!!

And ofcourse, Pathetic!!! :mad: :mad: :mad:

ZN WAKE UP!!!

dude relax. ZN's thirty two years of age, nothing strange if she's off form. im surprised to see a world no. 1 at 32 years old actually.

[kwun]

as long as Lin dan like it:D

Chinese media has reported that he doesn't!

[kwun]

dude relax. ZN's thirty two years of age, nothing strange if she's off form. im surprised to see a world no. 1 at 32 years old actually.

yeah. i think age has finally caught up to ZN this time.

[huangkwokhau]

Calculated next Thursday's MS rankings ...

1(no change) LD
2(-) CH
3(-) LCW (if LCW had entered to CM final, he would have replaced CH to be World No.2. However, LCW has closed up the gap - only about 500 WR points apart.)
4(-) CJ
5(-) BCL
6(+1) PG
7(-1) CY
8(+1) KJ
9(+1) TH
10(-2) BP
11(-) Sony
12(-) Shoji
13(+4) Wacha
14(-) Hafiz
15(+10) WCH
16(-1) Ronald
17(-4) Dicky
18(+4) Simon
19(-3) LTS
20(-2) Andrew

PSH and Ng Wei, currently ranked 19th & 20th respectively, will be dropped out of top-20 in 4 days' time.

Are the rankings based on the best 10 tournaments' result?

[madbad]

You get the feeling this match has been pre-planned, kinda like pro-wrestling. XXF (the villain) will win the 1st game. The heroine (ZN) makes a stunning comeback to take the second. They struggle mightily in the 3rd but miraculously, on the brink of defeat, our heroine pulls it out of the fire to lift the trophy.

[jbchiong]

It is better that umpire/service judges are not chinese when the matches involve chinese players....to avoid any accusation from others...like today INA MD got questionable calls....it might affect their play and concentration....anyway...better next time

Not only INA MD but ENG MX as well. I saw Anthony Clark clapping his hands (to insult the line judge who gave the call) and pointed with his racquet where the shuttlecock landed. In his judgement, it was out and made an appeal to umpire. But to no avail, the line judge prevail.

[Jessica]

ZN still has some weapons in her hand...She leading 10-2 now..

[narnia]

It is better that umpire/service judges are not chinese when the matches involve chinese players....to avoid any accusation from others...like today INA MD got questionable calls....it might affect their play and concentration....anyway...better next time

Not just for today's matches... Most of the matches in this tournament have got chinese umpires and service judges... I suppose BWF and China agreed with this. :mad:

[jbchiong]

You get the feeling this match has been pre-planned, kinda like pro-wrestling. XXF (the villain) will win the 1st game. The heroine (ZN) makes a stunning comeback to take the second. They struggle mightily in the 3rd but miraculously, on the brink of defeat, our heroine pulls it out of the fire to lift the trophy.

It looks like that way but I don't know who will win for sure. Maybe LYB knows already. :confused: :confused: :confused:

[kwun]

not even the great XXF can handle the effect of the draft in the stadium

[madbad]

Calculated next Thursday's MS rankings ...

1(no change) LD
2(-) CH
3(-) LCW (if LCW had entered to CM final, he would have replaced CH to be World No.2. However, LCW has closed up the gap - only about 500 WR points apart.)
4(-) CJ
5(-) BCL
6(+1) PG
7(-1) CY
8(+1) KJ
9(+1) TH
10(-2) BP
11(-) Sony
12(-) Shoji
13(+4) Wacha
14(-) Hafiz
15(+10) WCH
16(-1) Ronald
17(-4) Dicky
18(+4) Simon
19(-3) LTS
20(-2) Andrew

PSH and Ng Wei, currently ranked 19th & 20th respectively, will be dropped out of top-20 in 4 days' time.

Good to know that both WACHA and WCH will be breaking into the top 15

[flymordecai]

You get the feeling this match has been pre-planned, kinda like pro-wrestling. XXF (the villain) will win the 1st game. The heroine (ZN) makes a stunning comeback to take the second. They struggle mightily in the 3rd but miraculously, on the brink of defeat, our heroine pulls it out of the fire to lift the trophy.

Kinda like their Japan Open game when they went 30-29 in the last game?

[madbad]

It looks like that way but I don't know who will win for sure. Maybe LYB knows already. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Just follow the script, I stole it from LYB's coaching manual :D:D

[taufik-ist]

Calculated next Thursday's MS rankings ...

1(no change) LD
2(-) CH
3(-) LCW (if LCW had entered to CM final, he would have replaced CH to be World No.2. However, LCW has closed up the gap - only about 500 WR points apart.)
4(-) CJ
5(-) BCL
6(+1) PG
7(-1) CY
8(+1) KJ
9(+1) TH
10(-2) BP
11(-) Sony
12(-) Shoji
13(+4) Wacha
14(-) Hafiz
15(+10) WCH
16(-1) Ronald
17(-4) Dicky
18(+4) Simon
19(-3) LTS
20(-2) Andrew

PSH and Ng Wei, currently ranked 19th & 20th respectively, will be dropped out of top-20 in 4 days' time.

yes.... taufik's journey to super SS is on the right track :D

[liangyuanruo]

You get the feeling this match has been pre-planned, kinda like pro-wrestling. XXF (the villain) will win the 1st game. The heroine (ZN) makes a stunning comeback to take the second. They struggle mightily in the 3rd but miraculously, on the brink of defeat, our heroine pulls it out of the fire to lift the trophy.

i disagree, as kwun says, ZN and XXF fight their hearts out everytime they meet in the finals. that's also a reason why they keep swapping world no. 1 and 2 positions and also maintain their level above all the other players.

[narnia]

Kinda like their Japan Open game when they went 30-29 in the last game?

Wow, that's another record. I saw it at the match btw BP vs LHI in the last Thai Open. It was 30-28.

[pjswift]

It is indeed strange, why are all of them Chinese?
I do not say that Chinese is unfair, but this kind of thing could derive an opinion that bad calls may happen to non-Chinese players.

Anyway, Chinese players seem play quite well today, excluding all the bad calls.

In my opinion, IBF should think about this matter. I think it might be better if the umpire and service judge are not from the countries of the players which are playing. So, for example, as China has all its players in each field, so there should be NO CHINESE umpire and service judge.

Hope IBF will think about this. This is indeed to make badminton more popular in this earth.
There's still HKO and another CO to come. Get used to it. The umpires and line judges probably have more say in influencing the outcome of the match than the players.Sometimes the circus needs to come to town ,

[huangkwokhau]

actually XXF looks younger with her new hairdo....

[ycchen]

Again we can see Lin Dan's arrogant face after winning the match against Wong. i think Lin is more motivated when the prize money is high. :) i think BWF should set a rule to increase the prize money for the runner-up of mixed doubles. it is pathetic for the English pair to only win 5,xxx USD after playing for so hard for a week. 5xxx USD == 3000 Pound.... :( Markis Kido and Hendra were unfortunate to get foul during the crucial moment of 2nd game against Cai/Fu due to the "fair" service judge.... i am impressed by the organizer as they show such a "fairness" by putting chinese umpires in all the finals.

[jbchiong]

Kinda like their Japan Open game when they went 30-29 in the last game?

Possibly a rubbermatch? Almost certainly. Quality of the game compared to last year's Japan Open? Absolutely not!!!

[flymordecai]

This game is so weird. In the first game, XXF dominated ZN. It was reminiscent of their WC and AE matches. However in this game, ZN is dominating XXF. Reminiscent of their non-WC and AE matches.

[yingcheng]

as long as Lin dan like it:D


Chinese media has reported that he doesn't!

yes yes, i read the news that XXF said LD tried to stop her making new hairstyle, but she insist:D:D

[kwun]

ZN seems to have caught 2nd wind. now she is moving way faster than the 1st game.

[huangkwokhau]

There's still HKO and another CO to come. Get used to it. The umpires and line judges probably have more say in influencing the outcome of the match than the players.Sometimes the circus needs to come to town ,
At least HKO will be fairer...trust me !!!

[ssuly]

You get the feeling this match has been pre-planned, kinda like pro-wrestling. XXF (the villain) will win the 1st game. The heroine (ZN) makes a stunning comeback to take the second. They struggle mightily in the 3rd but miraculously, on the brink of defeat, our heroine pulls it out of the fire to lift the trophy.


lol.. you just used a bit too much of your imagination. There is no reason for doing that and certainly, they are professional enough to not transform a competitive game into somekind of a movie.:D

[madbad]

i disagree, as kwun says, ZN and XXF fight their hearts out everytime they meet in the finals. that's also a reason why they keep swapping world no. 1 and 2 positions and also maintain their level above all the other players.

Dude, I was just putting a light hearted twist on the proceedings. It's been an utterly insipid evening of action and I was just trying to amuse myself. Nothing to get too serious about. But if the script does play out, makes you wonder, doesn't it?... Hmmm:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[liangyuanruo]

how is it that XXF gets thrashed by ZN so badly after pwning her in 1st set? is she afraid of her senior?

[jbchiong]

yeah. i think age has finally caught up to ZN this time.

No. I don't think so. She can still cover the whole court and still doing it. It's just that mistakes that she's committing is too obvious.

[yingcheng]

Is the game that uninteresting that hairstyle is the best thing we can talk about? I agree though :D:D

absolutely agree w/ u...

now we all wait for the rubber game:cool:

[huangkwokhau]

at least LYB does not interfere this time...he lets those ladies fight....

[vching]

ZN is a slow starter...

It is ridiculous that the line judges and the umpires are all chinese... In almost all other SS events, the officials are always impartial and from another country...

[narnia]

Again we can see Lin Dan's arrogant face after winning the match against Wong. i think Lin is more motivated when the prize money is high. :) i think BWF should set a rule to increase the prize money for the runner-up of mixed doubles. it is pathetic for the English pair to only win 5,xxx USD after playing for so hard for a week. 5xxx USD == 3000 Pound.... :( Markis Kido and Hendra were unfortunate to get foul during the crucial moment of 2nd game against Cai/Fu due to the "fair" service judge.... i am impressed by the organizer as they show such a "fairness" by putting chinese umpires in all the finals.

Totally agreed. There was no camera at the lines. :mad:

[liangyuanruo]

at least LYB does not interfere this time...he lets those ladies fight....

he's been letting them fight it out for quite a few competitions already :)

[madbad]

Act 1 complete: according to script (21-11)
Act 2 complete: according to script (8-21)... EIGHT!?!
Act 3: ... and ACTION!...

[ssuly]

I kinda like xing fang's hair style, am i the only one??:(

[huangkwokhau]

I want WS over so we can watch WD.....now we have to wait a BIT longer.....sigh!!

[armortecfans]

At least HKO will be fairer...trust me !!!

No, I disagree. Do you remember what happened last year in HKO when Taufik Hidayat storming off the court after get a bad call when he played against Lin Dan?
And also when the Semifinal between Lin Dan and Kenneth Jonassen, when the linesman got replaced?

Well, I do hope this year HKO will be better than last year and also than this China Master.

[kwun]

man, these two played like they are 60 old on the 2nd game.

[liangyuanruo]

Totally agreed. There was no camera at the lines. :mad:

if im not wrong it should be WBF who sends its umpires to the competitions... not the organisers. maybe its a logistical issue, not many foreign umpires live in china, right?

[Lx2_Oddkinsonz]

actually..i think the new hairstyle's quite nice too..mayb it's bcoz i was considering cutting mine short too..

[madbad]

yes yes, i read the news that XXF said LD tried to stop her making new hairstyle, but she insist:D:D

Well, since it's done, LD can buy her some hair extensions :D

[sumbadder]

maybe xxf was just didn't want to try cause of the draft behind her?

[taufik-ist]

at least LYB does not interfere this time...he lets those ladies fight....

LYB said to ZNand XXF " i won't interfere your match, but who has the best hair-style must win" :D

[jbchiong]

Act 1 complete: according to script (21-11)
Act 2 complete: according to script (8-21)... EIGHT!?!
Act 3: ... and ACTION!...

Hilarious!!! :D :D :D

But the question is, what's going to happen in the last games? :confused: :confused: :confused: You already know who's going to win. Do you?

[liangyuanruo]

I kinda like xing fang's hair style, am i the only one??:(
nope, me too =D she looks younger now.

[narnia]

ZN is a slow starter...

It is ridiculous that the line judges and the umpires are all chinese... In almost all other SS events, the officials are always impartial and from another country...

I think BWF has to give some comments on this decision. Any news on this unusual things?? :mad:

And I hate the red arrogant-looking umpire chairs!

[armortecfans]

I want WS over so we can watch WD.....now we have to wait a BIT longer.....sigh!!

Yes, I do agree. This WS Final is boring. The 1st set no fight from Zhang Ning, and the 2nd set vice versa, no fight from Xie Xingfang.
STRANGE !!

I hope the 3rd set will be over soon. I don't care who will win.
Come on XXF and ZN! Finish it soon !!

[madbad]

man, these two played like they are 60 old on the 2nd game.

Combined, they're not quite 60 ;)

[yingcheng]

I kinda like xing fang's hair style, am i the only one??:(

haha...i think her hairstyle is quite nice off the court...but not on court

she looks like an old lady on the court:(

[pjswift]

yes yes, i read the news that XXF said LD tried to stop her making new hairstyle, but she insist:D:D
She has a mind of her own. I like that.

[huangkwokhau]

ZN is a slow starter...

It is ridiculous that the line judges and the umpires are all chinese... In almost all other SS events, the officials are always impartial and from another country...
I wish in IO, they used all indonesian umpires and service judges then TH would have won instead of BCL.....:D:D the TH ould have beaten LCW....:D:D so in theory...TH can sue BWF based on no all Indonesian umpire.service judge...:D:D...basically TH got robbed..:D ( do I sound like INDRA now?)

[madbad]

Hilarious!!! :D :D :D

But the question is, what's going to happen in the last games? :confused: :confused: :confused: You already know who's going to win. Do you?

You see, it's already closer than in games 1 & 2. The "struggling mightily" part will be coming up shortly :p:p

[taufik-ist]

I think BWF has to give some comments on this decision. Any news on this unusual things?? :mad:

at least the umpire is not from china :mad:

[liangyuanruo]

hahaha. lols. yeah kinda like indra. anyway third set has lots of fight =D

[sumbadder]

You see, it's already closer than in games 1 & 2. The "struggling mightily" part will be coming up shortly :p:p

that's coming once they switch sides again hah

[jbchiong]

You see, it's already closer than in games 1 & 2. The "struggling mightily" part will be coming up shortly :p:p

XXF-ZN, 7-2. Maybe you're reading the old script. I think LYB has made some little changes at the last minute. Now, we don't know who's gonna win.

[huangkwokhau]

nope, me too =D she looks younger now.
Thats what I said....she looks younger actually...like teenager..,at least she does not want Men control or dictate her decision..what a girl!!

[madbad]

that's coming once they switch sides again hah

That's right, at least you're in tune with the plan :D:D

[taufik-ist]

I wish in IO, they used all indonesian umpires and service judges then TH would have won instead of BCL.....:D:D the TH ould have beaten LCW....:D:D so in theory...TH can sue BWF based on no all Indonesian umpire.service judge...:D:D...basically TH got robbed..:D ( do I sound like INDRA now?)

not even close.... :p

[chanbc]

It is indeed strange, why are all of them Chinese?
I do not say that Chinese is unfair, but this kind of thing could derive an opinion that bad calls may happen to non-Chinese players.

Anyway, Chinese players seem play quite well today, excluding all the bad calls.

In my opinion, IBF should think about this matter. I think it might be better if the umpire and service judge are not from the countries of the players which are playing. So, for example, as China has all its players in each field, so there should be NO CHINESE umpire and service judge.

Hope IBF will think about this. This is indeed to make badminton more popular in this earth.

I am not surprise to see these kind of opinion in this forum as i do not have much expectation of the participants.

Integrity of the judges should be the issue not the nationality of the judges.

Hope some of you still recall the "poor" umpire in 2002 World Cup (Soccer) in Korea. Anyone who can still remember the incidence are welcome to refresh the memory.

[madbad]

XXF-ZN, 7-2. Maybe you're reading the old script. I think LYB has made some little changes at the last minute. Now, we don't know who's gonna win.

See the part about changing sides after 11 points

[armortecfans]

I wish in IO, they used all indonesian umpires and service judges then TH would have won instead of BCL.....:D:D the TH ould have beaten LCW....:D:D so in theory...TH can sue BWF based on no all Indonesian umpire.service judge...:D:D...basically TH got robbed..:D ( do I sound like INDRA now?)

Haha, Huangkwokhau, I fully agree:D....
Anyway, I am hoping that this boring WS will be finished soon.....

[huangkwokhau]

not even close.... :p

damn!!!:mad::mad: will try again next time..:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:

[orchiid]

though ZN is 32yr old, her energy is much better than some young girls,
when Wang yihan met her in round 3, the teenager had to use her racket as a crutch and out of breath in the 2nd and 3rd sets

[huangkwokhau]

I am just trying to kill time here and talking nonsense......

[narnia]

I am not surprise to see these kind of opinion in this forum as i do not have much expectation of the participants.

Integrity of the judges should be the issue not the nationality of the judges.

Hope some of you still recall the "poor" umpire in 2002 World Cup (Soccer) in Korea. Anyone who can still remember the incidence are welcome to refresh the memory.

Please watch the matches if the videos come up. Then, you can understand it.

[liangyuanruo]

I am not surprise to see these kind of opinion in this forum as i do not have much expectation of the participants.

Integrity of the judges should be the issue not the nationality of the judges.

Hope some of you still recall the "poor" umpire in 2002 World Cup (Soccer) in Korea. Anyone who can still remember the incidence are welcome to refresh the memory.

good point, but still we'd rather prefer it to be from a neutral country so that the risk of favouritism is lower.

[jbchiong]

See the part about changing sides after 11 points

We will see about that! We will see.

[madbad]

I am just trying to kill time here and talking nonsense......

We're all sooooo bored and talking a whole bunch of nonsense

[huangkwokhau]

XXF will win......

[flymordecai]

What time will CCTV5 stop broadcasting badminton?

[sumbadder]

XXF should make aggressive the main part of her game. Her attack is a lot stronger than her ability to control a long rally

[pjswift]

Yes, I do agree. This WS Final is boring. The 1st set no fight from Zhang Ning, and the 2nd set vice versa, no fight from Xie Xingfang.
STRANGE !!

I hope the 3rd set will be over soon. I don't care who will win.
Come on XXF and ZN! Finish it soon !!
ok I got it. This is LYB's way of speeding up a match to just one game;the G3 is the real thing? A real match between them in JO06 lasted 70mins. Be thankful. Although I won't be surprised if many fans will be happy if it's just a w/o.

[orchiid]

What time will CCTV5 stop broadcasting badminton?
when WD finish:cool:

[huangkwokhau]

thats why we have time to debate about nationality of umpires, etc...haircut....these are really off topic....hehe
KWUN will forgive us....

[narnia]

What time will CCTV5 stop broadcasting badminton?

5 pm AFAIK...........

no, till all the games're finished. sorry :)

[huangkwokhau]

another 5 points to go...seems it takes forever...(yawn)

[huangkwokhau]

here it is 1 am...I am watching scifi channel....those movies are bad...........

[madbad]

It's about now when our heroine (ZN) comes to life

[sumbadder]

another 5 points to go...seems it takes forever...(yawn)
the longest short game ever. ws is so dull.

[flymordecai]

5 pm AFAIK...........

no, till all the games're finished. sorry :)

Are you sure? I thought I saw something about a 2007 _____ showing at 5:00PM China time? I can't read Chinese, so I'm not sure. But I want to watch the WD as well.

[jasonmarc]

Calculated next Thursday's MS rankings ...

1(no change) LD
2(-) CH
3(-) LCW (if LCW had entered to CM final, he would have replaced CH to be World No.2. However, LCW has closed up the gap - only about 500 WR points apart.)
4(-) CJ
5(-) BCL
6(+1) PG
7(-1) CY
8(+1) KJ
9(+1) TH
10(-2) BP
11(-) Sony
12(-) Shoji
13(+4) Wacha
14(-) Hafiz
15(+10) WCH
16(-1) Ronald
17(-4) Dicky
18(+4) Simon
19(-3) LTS
20(-2) Andrew

PSH and Ng Wei, currently ranked 19th & 20th respectively, will be dropped out of top-20 in 4 days' time.

Will CH take part in coming PO....LCW will compete...if LCW enter QF and CH did not took part in PO.....is there any possibility for LCW to become No. 2?

[taufik-ist]

here it is 1 am...I am watching scifi channel....those movies are bad...........

what movie... HBO ?

[armortecfans]

17-17 now.....tight....come on ladies, finish it soon.....

[orchiid]

Thats what I said....she looks younger actually...like teenager..,at least she does not want Men control or dictate her decision..what a girl!!
well..she said she used to Men control, and Lin dan is from the place of china where man wear the trousers.

[Inky2000]

Calculated next Thursday's MS rankings ...

1(no change) LD
2(-) CH
3(-) LCW (if LCW had entered to CM final, he would have replaced CH to be World No.2. However, LCW has closed up the gap - only about 500 WR points apart.)
4(-) CJ
5(-) BCL
6(+1) PG
7(-1) CY
8(+1) KJ
9(+1) TH
10(-2) BP
11(-) Sony
12(-) Shoji
13(+4) Wacha
14(-) Hafiz
15(+10) WCH
16(-1) Ronald
17(-4) Dicky
18(+4) Simon
19(-3) LTS
20(-2) Andrew

PSH and Ng Wei, currently ranked 19th & 20th respectively, will be dropped out of top-20 in 4 days' time.

Somebody asked me whether the ranking calculation is based on 10 best in the last 12 months. My answer is yes.

Here are the MD rankings on coming Thursday,

1(-) CY/FHF
2(+2) MK/HS
3(-1) KKK/TBH (The WR point difference between No.2 & No.3 is about 1,400. As KKK/TBH will participate in Philippines Open next week while MK/HS not, KKK/TBH will regain their No.2 status as long as they advance to 2nd round.)
4(+1) CTF/LWW
5(-2) JE/MLH
6(-) CW/TG
7(-) LJJ/HJM
8(-) JJS/LYD
9(-) AC/RB
10(-) JP/JR
11(+7) Luluk/Alvent
12(+3) OSH/TBS
13(-2) Sakamoto/Ikeda
14(-2) Njoto/Wiratama
15(+2) Gunawan/Riyadi
16(-3) Sukiawan/Hian
17(-1) Ohtsuka/Masuda
18(-4) Logosz/Mateusiak
19(+2) CCM/HTH
20(-1) Saputra/Wijaya

Zakry/Fairuzizuan and SY/HHB, originally ranked 41st & 42nd respectively, will move up to somewhere between 31st & 35th (well, still can't break into top-30).

[madbad]

You see the mighty struggle is ensuing ;)
ZN 19-18 XXF

[huangkwokhau]

ZN will win again.....oh no...poor XXF...jia you ZN

[chanbc]

Please watch the matches if the videos come up. Then, you can understand it.

Given that i agreed with you about the bad call, don't you think that you should focus on the integrity to the umpire rather than their nationality as what people did in 2002 world cup? Or is there any preference to think differently about the integrity of the umpire between badminton and soccer? I would agree to reduce the risk of siding, all line judges, service judges, umpire be from neutral country without any interest. But the question is, it is difficult to implement, of course not impossile. Just spend more money to get more umpires, line judges, service judges around the world.

[huangkwokhau]

what movie... HBO ?
SCIFI channel..in USA, we have over 300 channels....even HBO has about 11 channels....

[pjswift]

good point, but still we'd rather prefer it to be from a neutral country so that the risk of favouritism is lower.
Maybe it's not CHN's fault. Umpires from other countries probably refuse to do the job there. Imagine having to listen to LYB..Apparently umpire changed a decision after 'appeal' by LYB.
The best thing I like about CO is the speed of the prize presentation. Looks faster than players warming up. Hope SO pick up a tip here.

[jbchiong]

20-20. Are they gonna repeat what happened last year?

[cooler]

another classic xxf vs ZN duel :):)

[Inky2000]

Will CH take part in coming PO....LCW will compete...if LCW enter QF and CH did not took part in PO.....is there any possibility for LCW to become No. 2?

CH and LCW will be the top-2 seeds in this coming PO. Other "big" names are:

1st half - TH, KJ, WCH, Hafiz, Roslin
2nd half - Sony, BCL, LHI, Simon

It seems that LCW is in a relatively easier half. No TH and CH till final.

[huangkwokhau]

wow..XXF won.....great now WD

[liangyuanruo]

21-21 REALLY CLOSE . jiayou XXF!!!

[liangyuanruo]

ZN just hit an obviously out shot.

[liangyuanruo]

Xiexingfang Wins!!! =d

[sumbadder]

ZN just hit an obviously out shot.
freal. At least they're done now.

[jbchiong]

XXF have already won. I told you madbad you don't have the latest script. Because LYB saw you reading the script. That's why he has to make a last minute changes. I sure ZN was very dissapointed about the decision. :D :D :D

[Felicia_txh]

Congratz to XXF..
Now,only INA can prevent CHN to sweep all the titles..
Good Luck!!

[madbad]

Dang, the heroine got slayed by the villain with the new hairstyle. Roll the credits..


Heroine.....Zhang Ning
Villain..... Xie Xin Fang
Extras.....all in attendance
Scriptwriter.....Li Yongbo
Director.....madbad

... and CUT!

[huangkwokhau]

I really hope INA can take one title here.....

[kwun]

nice. nice.

good fight at the end of the match. both girls are obviously very exhausted.

[madbad]

XXF have already won. I told you madbad you don't have the latest script. Because LYB saw you reading the script. That's why he has to make a last minute changes. I sure ZN was very dissapointed about the decision. :D :D :D

You know as in pro-wrestling, anything's possible. Always watch your back, there's always someone waiting to take your crown away. ;)

[kwun]

WD next. i hope i can stay awake. it has been a really long day.

[huangkwokhau]

Dang, the heroine got slayed by the villain with the new hairstyle. Roll the credits..


Heroine.....Zhang Ning
Villain..... Xie Xin Fang
Extras.....all in attendance
Scriptwriter.....Li Yongbo
Director.....madbad

... and CUT!
Thats Funny !! good job...
Producer: Huang Kwok Hau

[jbchiong]

Dang, the heroine got slayed by the villain with the new hairstyle. Roll the credits..


Heroine.....Zhang Ning
Villain..... Xie Xin Fang
Extras.....all in attendance
Scriptwriter.....Li Yongbo
Director.....madbad

... and CUT!

:eek: :eek: :eek:

That's unfair!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: You were behind this all along. You fooled us. I will talk to Punch about this. This is a mistake :D :D :D

[madbad]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

That's unfair!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: You were behind this all along. You fooled us. I will talk to Punch about this. This is a mistake :D :D :D

I think we are all veeerrrrryyyy bored :D:D:D

[madbad]

WD next. i hope i can stay awake. it has been a really long day.

Your boys have been keeping you busy, Kwun?

[huangkwokhau]

INA WD looks like tomboys...more muscles than their counter part

[jbchiong]

:eek: :eek: :eek:

That's unfair!!! :mad: :mad: :mad: You were behind this all along. You fooled us. I will talk to Punch about this. This is a mistake :D :D :D

The same for you too huangkwokhau!!! I will sue you both!!! :D :D :D

[taufik-ist]

Thats Funny !! good job...
Producer: Huang Kwok Hau

stuntman: taufik-ist :D

[madbad]

stuntman: taufik-ist :D

No, you were the umpire. I remember casting you for that role :D

[jasonmarc]

CH and LCW will be the top-2 seeds in this coming PO. Other "big" names are:

1st half - TH, KJ, WCH, Hafiz, Roslin
2nd half - Sony, BCL, LHI, Simon

It seems that LCW is in a relatively easier half. No TH and CH till final.

thanks, in that case, if LCW enter SF and CH enter QF .... LCW will replace CH in No. 2 spot....ooh still have to depend on how BCL perform.....:rolleyes: in PO....,hope LCW will become WR No. 2 so he would not have to meet LD too early......;)

[narnia]

Another chinese umpire!!! :(

[madbad]

Hey guys, there's a REAL badminton match going on. :p
INA 4-5 CHN

[pjswift]

thats why we have time to debate about nationality of umpires, etc...haircut....these are really off topic....hehe
KWUN will forgive us....
What do you mean? Isn't kwun the one who started it all...? About XXF's new hairstyle? What's that got to do with badminton? oh, I remember,when the hair is shorter,weight is decreased and movement speed is enhanced...

[kwun]

let's go INA! i think they have a chance.

[jbchiong]

stuntman: taufik-ist :D

Stuntman!?! I don't recall any stunts in that match. If there is, what part. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Anyway, the WS is over and scripts have already been shred, I hope the last match would be much more interesting. And most of all, NO CHN CLEAN SWEEP. It's just too much to handle. :mad:

INA WD win this one for MEEEEEE!!!!!

[chickenpoodle]

wow, in the WD match, first rally... that was confusion we rarely see at this level, and by the chinese pair? wow!

[madbad]

GO INDONESIA
Let's put the red and white on the board!

[kwun]

What do you mean? Isn't kwun the one who started it all...? About XXF's new hairstyle? What's that got to do with badminton? oh, I remember,when the hair is shorter,weight is decreased and movement speed is enhanced...

is that why i am so slow?

[jbchiong]

No, you were the umpire. I remember casting you for that role :D

There's got to be a mistake here!!! :D :D :D Maybe Taufik-ist read a different script!!! :D :D :D

[madbad]

Oh dear, not going to well
INA 6-11 CHN

[huangkwokhau]

CHN leads now 11-6

[taufik-ist]

Stuntman!?! I don't recall any stunts in that match. If there is, what part. :confused: :confused: :confused:

Anyway, the WS is over and scripts have already been shred, I hope the last match would be much more interesting. And most of all, NO CHN CLEAN SWEEP. It's just too much to handle. :mad:

INA WD win this one for MEEEEEE!!!!!

to replace "LYB" facing all of your bashings and critics :p

[Angelou]

Yang Wei is so good about her positioning.

[chanbc]

What do you mean? Isn't kwun the one who started it all...? About XXF's new hairstyle? What's that got to do with badminton? oh, I remember,when the hair is shorter,weight is decreased and movement speed is enhanced...

I think if you can spend some time in www.malaysia-today.net (http://www.malaysia-today.net) and post your comment there, it will be more juicy.

[madbad]

There's got to be a mistake here!!! :D :D :D Maybe Taufik-ist read a different script!!! :D :D :D

Perhaps, Taufik-ist knocked off the actor and ended playing the part of... wait for it... LI YONGBO!!!! (dramatic music, thunder and lightning and all that stuff)

[madbad]

Better from the INA girls, down 12-13

[jasonmarc]

GO INDONESIA
Let's put the red and white on the board!

Yes go INA stop the CHN from a clean sweep......go INA....Marissa made more mistake.......:o pls be more steady.....and butet...smash is hard and strong.....goood.

[baldybodhi]

12-15 what happened?

[madbad]

Oops, CHN girls have decided to step it up 16-12 now

[jbchiong]

Perhaps, Taufik-ist knocked off the actor and ended playing the part of... wait for it... LI YONGBO!!!! (dramatic music, thunder and lightning and all that stuff)

Very funny!!! Very funny indeed. I never thought of that!!! :D

[baldybodhi]

12-19 o no..:( what happened guys?

[huangkwokhau]

CHN will take 1st set..come on...Butet/Vita

[kwun]

Oh dear, not going to well
INA 6-11 CHN

why, do you actually expect the INA girls to win??

[sumbadder]

the indonesian girls play a much faster, drive game than all the Chinese who are attack or defense with little in between. with all chinese finals happening at every tournament, they're probably just a little thrown off by the different style. They're still winning hahaha.

Yang wei is so smart on court even though she looks lazy as hell

[madbad]

Very funny!!! Very funny indeed. I never thought of that!!! :D

Yes, but you have to credit LYB for understanding the irony of casting an arch rival supporter in the form of Taufik-ist to play him. He's a genius :D:D:D

[kwun]

that was an amazing net kill by ZTT at match point.

[Angelou]

the indonesian girls play a much faster, drive game than all the Chinese who are attack or defense with little in between. with all chinese finals happening at every tournament, they're probably just a little thrown off by the different style. They're still winning hahaha.

Yang wei is so smart on court even though she looks lazy as hell

I've got to agree. She anticipates so well. And it seems like all the balls come to her.

[madbad]

why, do you actually expect the INA girls to win??

I have my PAW on them. Realistically, I just want to make loud cheering noises because it's been a boring evening ;)

[baldybodhi]

5-1@@@ Indonesia!!

[chickenpoodle]

that was an amazing net kill by ZTT at match point.
chinese WD is scary.....

i remember seeing Fu HF doing a similar net kill too, but it was at a very cruicial point against Tony and Candra, and his kill took place a lot closer to that corner too. i was pretty sure his was an absolute fluke, but seeing these kills more and more often by the chinese is starting to make me rethink my theory!

[jbchiong]

Yes, but you have to credit LYB for understanding the irony of casting an arch rival supporter in the form of Taufik-ist to play him. He's a genius :D:D:D

Absolutely! I guess LYB after he retires might try script writing for a movie. He's really good.

[madbad]

Now you see that they are on the "draft-unaffected" side, they are pulling away. INA 7-2 CHN

[sumbadder]

I've got to agree. She anticipates so well. And it seems like all the balls come to her.
seems like they're gonna smash at zhao for the rest of the game haha

[taufik-ist]

it's ina's turn to strom china wd :)

[fd16n]

I thought there's the pattern of Indonesian pair to lose first set like previous matches. hopefully they can do it again now

[kwun]

Tian Bing Yi dyed his hair... :D

[cooler]

Absolutely! I guess LYB after he retires might try script writing for a movie. He's really good.i think LYB can win 'the china idols master' :D

[kwun]

one side of the court is jinxed.

[baldybodhi]

10-7 i cant watch via livestream

[madbad]

i think LYB can win 'the china idols master' :D

cooler, that's a good one.. China Idol indeed :D:D

[jbchiong]

i think LYB can win 'the china idols master' :D

I don't what to say! This is too much for me! :D :D :D

[madbad]

Tian Bing Yi dyed his hair... :D

Dang Kwun, what's is it with you and hair tonight?? :p

[huangkwokhau]

I hope it goes to rubber set.....more exciting to watch....

[baldybodhi]

12-9 keep leading girls!!

[cooler]

i dun mind xxf's new hairstyle tho, it shows more of her pretty face:)

[madbad]

INA hanging on to a 14-10 lead despite playing on the better side

[Angelou]

seems like they're gonna smash at zhao for the rest of the game haha


maybe, but I think yang wei is covering most of the defense, so that zhao has little to look after. (but not always the case)

[baldybodhi]

14-10!! Indonesia!!!

[Felicia_txh]

it's ina's turn to strom china wd :)
Good job..INA is leading 14-10...;)

[baldybodhi]

14-12 what happened?

[jasonmarc]

Now you see that they are on the "draft-unaffected" side, they are pulling away. INA 7-2 CHN

This 'draft' make this tournament more difficult to predict.....cmon INA use the advantages now.....

[madbad]

CHN defending home turf, down 12-14 now

[huangkwokhau]

CHN ladies are more elegant when they play......INA WD??? cant say...

[baldybodhi]

15-12 yaayyy!! ina!!

[madbad]

I wonder if this draft is as bad as the one in the Pond in Anaheim during the 2005 WC

[pjswift]

Dang Kwun, what's is it with you and hair tonight?? :p
It's to tell you mods are also human and can go off-topic....

[huangkwokhau]

service fault against INA...what a crab!!!

[huangkwokhau]

I hope Chinese umpire is fair......

[fd16n]

INA WD took the second set. yessssss

[kwun]

this is more exciting than i thought. maybe i will try to stay up for another game longer...

[huangkwokhau]

YES!!! rubber set...this is only match that goes to 3 sets

[jbchiong]

Yes!!! :) A rubber match. Hope the INA WD have more steam.

[Felicia_txh]

Come on INA..fight hard..

[V3i HoN6]

lol looking at Butet making the sarcasm serves pose.

[kwun]

how come INA coaches always carries their bag with them when they talk to the players?

[huangkwokhau]

1 all for now..........

[madbad]

INA girls have to keep the score as close as possible in the first half of the rubber and take advantage after the change of sides.
INA 1-3 CHN

[jbchiong]

YES!!! rubber set...this is only match that goes to 3 sets

Have you already forgotten about the script written by LYB and most especially, directed by madbad!!! :D:D:D:D:D

[kwun]

alright. i am supporting INA to WIN!!!

[huangkwokhau]

:D:D
how come INA coaches always carries their bag with them when they talk to the players?
They have been warned that many pickpockets in china.....:D:D

[chickenpoodle]

how come INA coaches always carries their bag with them when they talk to the players?

they're paranoid that LYB will go raid their bag for secrets when they're busy doing courtside coaching. :D

[madbad]

INA girls doing their job and keeping it close, down 5-7

[huangkwokhau]

Just noticed that none of chinese players' service has been faulted...:mad::mad:

I will write a letter to BWF to complain....no more all chinese service judges...I am biased now ( drinking beer...:D)

[TKG2609]

go go lilyana / vita .... be the first wd that can beat chinese pair in the last 8 years ...hihihihi

[madbad]

Dang, I have to refill my Gin & Tonic :D:D
INA8-8 CHN
GO INDONESIA

[TKG2609]

chinese 4 ina 1

[huangkwokhau]

Yes..9-8 now for INA....pls..pls win

[TKG2609]

10:8 for indonesia

[taufik-ist]

Just noticed that none of chinese players' service has been faulted...:mad::mad:

I will write a letter to BWF to complain....no more all chinese service judges...I am biased now ( drinking beer...:D)

i want some :D...

[taufik-ist]

go go lilyana / vita .... be the first wd that can beat chinese pair in the last 8 years ...hihihihi

i'm surprised you finally support ina players :p

[madbad]

Incredibly, Vita & Butet reach the beer break up 11-8. The advantage should be with them for the remainder of the match

[huangkwokhau]

pls keep momentum....11-9 for INA

[baldybodhi]

13-10!! keep leading!!! ayoo!!

[huangkwokhau]

I am drinking Alaskan beer..love it...on my cruise to Alaska..I have been drinking this beer since....12-10 for INA

[Jasonvan]

Seems like china pair have pretty bad teamwork compared to their counter part....

[madbad]

Oh oh, CHN catching up 12-13

[yingcheng]

add oil ah INA WD~~13 all now!

[Felicia_txh]

Just noticed that none of chinese players' service has been faulted...:mad::mad:

I will write a letter to BWF to complain....no more all chinese service judges...I am biased now ( drinking beer...:D)
Perhaps u should become the service judge in next tournament!!:p

[huangkwokhau]

oh no..CHN is chasing back..13 all

[huangkwokhau]

Perhaps u should become the service judge in next tournament!!:p
I will after I write them a letter:p

[Felicia_txh]

oops..CHN is leading now..15-14..

[madbad]

Vita & Butet must be feeling it from us on BC, catches up to 15-15

[armortecfans]

INA pair is giving a good fight.....amazing..

[madbad]

Streaking ahead to 18-15 now