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fyong
07-15-2007, 03:03 AM
Match point for IND

jbchiong
07-15-2007, 03:03 AM
2 points. Just 2 more points INA.

kwun
07-15-2007, 03:03 AM
amazing shuttle control by the INA girls. their shot selection is much more versatile than the Chinese.

madbad
07-15-2007, 03:03 AM
INA at match point at 20-15

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:04 AM
Yes..yes..one more

jasonmarc
07-15-2007, 03:04 AM
INA won.......Ya..

fd16n
07-15-2007, 03:04 AM
1 more point please

jbchiong
07-15-2007, 03:04 AM
Yehey!!! INA won. :) congrats to both of them.

fyong
07-15-2007, 03:04 AM
INA won!! Congrats...

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 03:04 AM
it's time to put yang wei and zhang jie wen back together......

madbad
07-15-2007, 03:05 AM
INA wins and prevents a clean sweep. Well done Vita/Marisa. A new star is born! :)

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 03:05 AM
hahaha 1 for ina

pauline
07-15-2007, 03:05 AM
Congratz to Lilyana and Vita!!!!!!

armortecfans
07-15-2007, 03:05 AM
INA pair win...yessss...congratulations...three thumbs for Butet and Vita...
12-21, 21-15, 21-16....great...I still cannot believe with what I see..

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 03:06 AM
yes... happy INA WD won... China can't take all....

INA wins and prevents a clean sweep. Well done Vita/Marisa. A new star is born! :)

Felicia_txh
07-15-2007, 03:06 AM
Yes..Indonesia won!!Yes.....:D:D:DLYB can't become arrogant anymore..:D:D

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 03:06 AM
Omg...omg

Ina Wd Win The Title....

It Will Hurt Lyb So Badly, Ina Has Stolen One Of 'lyb's Jewelleris'

Someone Must Write This Epic Story :)

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:06 AM
YES!!! YES!! INA WON!!! more alaskan beer....no clen sweep....so...so happy tonight

indra
07-15-2007, 03:07 AM
bravo...bravo...ina girls defeating Chinese girls in front of their own crowd...

Wow....Lylyana/Natsir look like the world champs...:D

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:07 AM
This is good, maybe now LYB will let Zhang Jiewen back into the picture....

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:07 AM
CHN women lost to INA tomboys.....wow...thats only way i guess to break great wall.....

jbchiong
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
INA won ?!? :eek: :eek: :eek: Then...

Then...

NO CHINA CLEAN SWEEP!!! HOORAH!!! :D

I'm so happy for them. I'm not crying!!! :crying: :crying: :crying:

madbad
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
I can feel the love in INA and from all Indonesiand living overseas. Well done, a tremendous achievement!

Felicia_txh
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
Omg...omg

Ina Wd Win The Title....

It Will Hurt Lyb So Badly, Ina Has Stolen One Of 'lyb's Jewelleris'

Someone Must Write This Epic Story :)
U r the right person to write tis story out!!:D:D

Han
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
Omg...omg

Ina Wd Win The Title....

It Will Hurt Lyb So Badly, Ina Has Stolen One Of 'lyb's Jewelleris'

Someone Must Write This Epic Story :)

Lets start with "Why China lost the WD?"

kwun
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
that is absolutely amazing.

to be able to beat the current stable of Chinese WD doubles players in their home turf. i think this must be the first in recent history.

the INA girls have very good defense and they excel over the CHN girls in their shuttle control and shot placement. they read the rally very well and often can get to the shuttle earlier. mistakes were plenty in the first game but they played better and better as they went on.

i am glad i stayed up to watch this match. congrats to Vita and Butet!!!!!

jasonmarc
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
LYB is very mad now.....dont go near him....

flymordecai
07-15-2007, 03:08 AM
ZTT is such a liability in the YW-ZTT pairing. She's good, but I think she's makes too many errors at crucial points. Her mental game isn't that good, which was one of the reason why YW-ZJW was such a strong team because YW/ZJW were overall a consistent strong team.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:09 AM
This is good, maybe now LYB will let Zhang Jiewen back into the picture....
I think LYB will consider it....there is no way that we would think INA will win WD...let alone from new pair..butet/Vita.....bravo..bravo...

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:09 AM
CHN women lost to INA tomboys.....wow...thats only way i guess to break great wall.....

Lol, but ZTT isn't exactly pretty either.... We need cute WD teams winning...

fyong
07-15-2007, 03:09 AM
Really a big achievement for INA WD, well done!!!
At least CHN cant clean sweep all the titles!!

yingcheng
07-15-2007, 03:10 AM
yeah~~~INA WD won!!

i hope LYB can let ZhangJiewen back to pair with YangWei again

fishmilk
07-15-2007, 03:10 AM
It's pretty funny because the Chinese woman are supposed to be the strongest part of the team. Then again, replace ZJW for ZTT? In your face LYB!

No but really, I loved the way the Indonesians played. They kept their cool, they were patient, and played brilliant badminton. Well done!

chickenpoodle
07-15-2007, 03:10 AM
cctv5 immediately switched to tour de france cycling after the chinese loss!!!

excellent job by the INA pair. very well done. they deserved this win with every rally they played.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:11 AM
I cant describe how happy I am....first time..China lost WD in final after dominating many years....good for INA as INA is always weak in ladies department....

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
Actually, LYB not successfully because 1 day before china master start, he said: China will take all gold and will be 3 all china final.

now, LYB can't arrogant. INA still strong and will develop a lot of players later on.

This is good, maybe now LYB will let Zhang Jiewen back into the picture....

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
Lol, but ZTT isn't exactly pretty either.... We need cute WD teams winning...
ZTT looks like more ladies than INA....trust me!!:D

madbad
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
I think LYB will consider it....there is no way that we would think INA will win WD...let alone from new pair..butet/Vita.....bravo..bravo...

Yeah but you could sense this momentum building up as they eliminated seed after seed. After a while you too start to believe that they could do it, and they did! Vita/Butet and WACHA are the best stories of CM 2007

kwun
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
ZTT is such a liability in the YW-ZTT pairing. She's good, but I think she's makes too many errors at crucial points. Her mental game isn't that good, which was one of the reason why YW-ZJW was such a strong team because YW/ZJW were overall a consistent strong team.

don't put too much blame on her.

we have said from very early on that Butet is an excellent player and if she plays WD she can make a very strong WD for INA. Vita is probably the next best that INA has to offer and this shows that it is still possible to beat the Chinese.

orchiid
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
Omg...omg

Ina Wd Win The Title....

It Will Hurt Lyb So Badly, Ina Has Stolen One Of 'lyb's Jewelleris'

Someone Must Write This Epic Story :)
LI YONGBO II:D?
and add BCers in this story

indra
07-15-2007, 03:12 AM
CHN women lost to INA tomboys.....wow...thats only way i guess to break great wall.....

Now I know the answer how to defeat Chinese Womens Supermacy....

Yes Ina must from now on recruit more tomboys.....yes I agree with you...:D

fd16n
07-15-2007, 03:13 AM
Incredible, CHN denied a clean sweep on a field that they usually conquer so easily. And much more so unbelieveable that who stole the title is Indonesia which usually not strong enough in WD department:eek:

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 03:13 AM
Knowing LYB, he'll probably stand by the YW-ZTT pairing despite the lack of coordination the strong Indonesian women exposed between the two. ZTT's game just doesn't work well with Yang Wei's it looked like.

cooler
07-15-2007, 03:13 AM
Lol, but ZTT isn't exactly pretty either.... We need cute WD teams winning...
man, u guys are so demanding, u want it them good and.. pretty:D

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:14 AM
Vita Marissa is superb tonight....both girls can smash left and right....

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:14 AM
ZTT looks like more ladies than INA....trust me!!:D

I know... I was watching, the INA ladies look like men :eek: But after watching XXF play... it's like heaven straight to hell :p

jbchiong
07-15-2007, 03:14 AM
cctv5 immediately switched to tour de france cycling after the chinese loss!!!

excellent job by the INA pair. very well done. they deserved this win with every rally they played.

Maybe CCTV was so shocked and most especially mad about the INA win. That's why they switch it to another program. They can't stand watching the awarding ceremony without China as the winner. :D

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:15 AM
I m having more beer now...more belly too...haha

cooler
07-15-2007, 03:16 AM
I know... I was watching, the INA ladies look like men :eek: But after watching XXF play... it's like heaven straight to hell :p
when the WD pairs were warming up, this kid msn'ed me and asked, 'why are they playing XD again?' I told them they are WD. LOL

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 03:17 AM
so cu all in the philipine master.... hopefully we can watch taufik vs lee chong wei rematch in the final

orchiid
07-15-2007, 03:17 AM
I know... I was watching, the INA ladies look like men :eek: But after watching XXF play... it's like heaven straight to hell :p
well. my mom said Natsir looks like a boy and Marisa doesnt like a girl

madbad
07-15-2007, 03:17 AM
OK, logging off. Goodnight everyone, it was entertaining and it ended on a high note :)

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:18 AM
man, u guys are so demanding, u want it them good and.. pretty:D

Lol, my gf was commenting on the players... she is like LD, Cai/Yu, XXF all have kinda movie star look to them, and than these WD just looks normal :rolleyes:

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:18 AM
I guess now INA can depend also on Polii/Jo beside vita/butet...good for uber cup 2008...now they need to groom WS...maria is a bit stable now...need another 2 at least....other wise only HK can challenge CHINA ( WC, ZM, YPY)

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:19 AM
when the WD pairs were warming up, this kid msn'ed me and asked, 'why are they playing XD again?' I told them they are WD. LOL

Ya, my gf said they look like guys.... than I looked and was stunned for a good 30 seconds :eek:

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 03:20 AM
U r the right person to write tis story out!!:D:D

i will deligate to indra :D

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:21 AM
Ya, my gf said they look like guys.... than I looked and was stunned for a good 30 seconds :eek:
Told you guys from beginning that INA WD looks like dudes.....:D:D thats only way to break chinese WD supremacy.....

Sandy
07-15-2007, 03:21 AM
when the WD pairs were warming up, this kid msn'ed me and asked, 'why are they playing XD again?' I told them they are WD. LOL

maybe when he/she think MD match when watch Semi Final Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Lilyana/Vita

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 03:22 AM
tomboys.. hope INA can recruit more same like Vitta/Butet. agree.



Now I know the answer how to defeat Chinese Womens Supermacy.

Yes Ina must from now on recruit more tomboys.....yes I agree with you...:D

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:22 AM
Told you guys from beginning that INA WD looks like dudes.....:D:D thats only way to break chinese WD supremacy.....

But but.... they should have rules about something like that! :eek: Lucky I'm strong mentally haha, or I'd be broken!

Sandy
07-15-2007, 03:23 AM
Luckily I watched this match
Lyliana/Vita played well in crossing play forced Yang Wei run side by side.

sihar
07-15-2007, 03:24 AM
INDONESIA...
Bravo Butet & Vita...

Jasonvan
07-15-2007, 03:25 AM
Yes, the badminton was good... More exciting than the WS finals... but.... ok... must try to eliminate that image from my head....

Sandy
07-15-2007, 03:26 AM
I guess now INA can depend also on Polii/Jo beside vita/butet...good for uber cup 2008...now they need to groom WS...maria is a bit stable now...need another 2 at least....other wise only HK can challenge CHINA ( WC, ZM, YPY)

I hope INA Uber Cup 2008 is Lilyana/Vita, Greysia/Jo and 3 Marias
(Maria Kristin, Maria Febe & Maria Elfira)

fd16n
07-15-2007, 03:26 AM
I'm almost speechless now by surprise and happines. hopefully thid id no fluke by INA WD and they can continue performed well

chemile
07-15-2007, 03:26 AM
maybe when he/she think MD match when watch Semi Final match Du Jing/Yu Yang vs Lilyana/Vita
hahah you are right sandy. Du Jing and Yu Yang more like men than Butet and Vita. Anyway CONGRATULATION for Butet/Vita. You two deserve to win China Master SS. From now on Indonesia not fear if facing Chinese WD. How can imagine they win in China, wow!!!
Hey Sandy. Do you mind to write about Samsung Astec Tournament. I want to watch live, but has no chance this week.

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 03:27 AM
Yes... Indonesia Badminton Federation president said: China harus bisa di Kalahkan.

Hope INA, Malaysia, England can develop more the women double. So interested to see... don't like to see china vs china.. so more competitive..

Told you guys from beginning that INA WD looks like dudes.....:D:D thats only way to break chinese WD supremacy.....

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 03:27 AM
please...
upload the vira/liyana vs Ztt/Yang video :)

chemile
07-15-2007, 03:28 AM
I'm almost speechless now by surprise and happines. hopefully thid id no fluke by INA WD and they can continue performed well

So do I. I never felt like this from Indonesia win last TC. HIDUP INDONESIA!

Sandy
07-15-2007, 03:29 AM
hahah you are right sandy. Du Jing and Yu Yang more like men than Butet and Vita. Anyway CONGRATULATION for Butet/Vita. You two deserve to win China Master SS. From now on Indonesia not fear if facing Chinese WD. How can imagine they win in China, wow!!!
Hey Sandy. Do you mind to write about Samsung Astec Tournament. I want to watch live, but has no chance this week.


Sorry, I didn't watch it
many top player in every category didn't play in this tournament

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 03:29 AM
Yes. I also interested.

please...
upload the vira/liyana vs Ztt/Yang video :)

zqloy
07-15-2007, 03:30 AM
Now I know the answer how to defeat Chinese Womens Supermacy....

Yes Ina must from now on recruit more tomboys.....yes I agree with you...:D

Lol.... tomboy is still ok, Natsir is quite adorable :p. Du/Yu is more like a she-man!

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 03:32 AM
I bet LYB gonna focus on training all his women to play against Vita/Natsir so that this doesn't happen again. Remember when CY/FHF lost to KKK/TBH in AE and SO then showed up armed to defeat them in the next tournaments? I honestly think it's a case of a shock-win, since China WD are so used to playing each other.

That aside, Natsir is actually kinda cute. Marissa is definitely a no no in my book though hahah.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 03:32 AM
good nite guys!!! 2.30 am here....hope INA can take more titles in PO..good start

zqloy
07-15-2007, 03:36 AM
that is absolutely amazing.

to be able to beat the current stable of Chinese WD doubles players in their home turf. i think this must be the first in recent history.

the INA girls have very good defense and they excel over the CHN girls in their shuttle control and shot placement. they read the rally very well and often can get to the shuttle earlier. mistakes were plenty in the first game but they played better and better as they went on.

i am glad i stayed up to watch this match. congrats to Vita and Butet!!!!!

Yes, what a performance by Natsir/Marissa! Esp Natsir is such a gifted player, her racquet skills and anticipation is excellent.

Felix.
07-15-2007, 03:38 AM
what a match. i think natsir and marissa played the right gameplan, which is the tricky placement that troubled the chinese greatly. they were very calm even though they were caught up at 13-15 after leading 13-10. ztt could be dangerous especially at the net but she made quite a handful of silly errors.

Dimplex
07-15-2007, 03:38 AM
well done to lin dan for winning his home event!
kudos also to wch for making it this far...it has been too long since he made the final of a major event like this :]

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 03:39 AM
I bet LYB gonna focus on training all his women to play against Vita/Natsir so that this doesn't happen again. Remember when CY/FHF lost to KKK/TBH in AE and SO then showed up armed to defeat them in the next tournaments?I honestly think it's a case of a shock-win, since China WD are so used to playing each other.

That aside, Natsir is actually kinda cute. Marissa is definitely a no no in my book though hahah.

i think Ina coach understand that

shock-win won't occur twice in a row (nova/vita defeated 2 top china pairs in semi and final) :D

vita/lilyana just played much better than china wds..

Felix.
07-15-2007, 03:40 AM
I hope INA Uber Cup 2008 is Lilyana/Vita, Greysia/Jo and 3 Marias
(Maria Kristin, Maria Febe & Maria Elfira)
greysa/jo should be split and be paired with either rani or endang.

robin7
07-15-2007, 03:51 AM
Really a big achievement for INA WD, well done!!!
At least CHN cant clean sweep all the titles!!

BRAVO INA WD! CHN WD so get used to playing their teammates.

Anyone recalls when was the last time CHN vs non-CHN in WD finals?

INA WD, u really save my PAW!:D:D:D:D:D

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 04:15 AM
big differents between the winner and the loser

http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/604/ina2jc1.jpg http://img452.imageshack.us/img452/9301/chn1am2.jpg

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 04:18 AM
http://images.sport.org.cn/Image/2007/07/15/1731134308.jpg

yang still figures out what happened to them :)
http://images.sport.org.cn/Image/2007/07/15/1731305400.jpg

Inky2000
07-15-2007, 04:22 AM
I suppose this is the first time since China began to actively participate in international badminton competitions (i.e., since they entered to TC/UC and won UC back in 1980s) that they send the full force of WD out to a tournament and yet fail to win the title in this category. Am I right?

Du/Yu beat Wei/Zhang in 3 games in qf, and Yang/Zhao beat Gao/Huang in qf ... wonder whether LYB will resume reinforcement of team order (if it did exist in the past anyway) soon?

abedeng
07-15-2007, 04:39 AM
Congrats to INA squad for punching a hole in CHN's strongest armour, the Women's Doubles. Could have been 2 for 2 too, with the Men's Doubles. Cai Yun wasn't playing that well today and INA MD had an even chance, had the service faults, receiver fault and bad line call not derailed Kido/Setiawan's chances.

WCH did well though, except for his control over the draft in the 2nd game.

CLELY
07-15-2007, 05:13 AM
A wonderful moment for INA, break CHN domination to create clean sweep. Very good job from Lilyana/Vita.Rock on, tomboy girls! Proud of u...

abedeng
07-15-2007, 05:46 AM
I hope this CHN loss doesn't result in more team orders in future tournaments ....

volcom
07-15-2007, 05:49 AM
Just a blip on the highly successful radar tbh

lfk_74
07-15-2007, 07:00 AM
Everyone here seems to be so happy that the Indonesia team won the WD. So am I. Happy for them.

Glad that Gao Ling/Zheng Bo won the XD. Even though they are rank No. 3 in the world but to me both of them is the best XD in the world. ;)

:crying: Sad that Zhang Ning lost to XXF. It was a close fight. Maybe better luck in WC in Malaysia next month. ;)

zqloy
07-15-2007, 07:25 AM
I like the way Yang Wei gave Natsir/Marissa a high 5 to congratulate them during the end of match, she is such a cool player.

tommy_bun
07-15-2007, 08:41 AM
LYB said the defeat of yang/zhao to vita natsir was like a bonus for ina team.At last ina ss,our players beat ina's best players.Especially when zheng/gao defeated nova/natsir and embarassed them in theuir homeland as they were ina's last hope.So we let you take this WD title back home with you as a reward:D:D. We have got 4 titles and that was more than enough.However,you have to remember that this is the first and the last time,no more next time.Beware.............

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 08:57 AM
LYB said the defeat of yang/zhao to vita natsir was like a bonus for ina team.At last ina ss,our players beat ina's best players.Especially when zheng/gao defeated nova/natsir and embarassed them in theuir homeland as they were ina's last hope.So we let you take this WD title back home with you as a reward:D:D. We have got 4 titles and that was more than enough.However,you have to remember that this is the first and the last time,no more next time.Beware.............

that's your ugly excuse
i know you are shock and despreate

i laughed loudly to imagine how your face looked like when China wd went down

:D :D :D :p,

you must proud of ina players (if you are indonesian or just fake location :) ), like KRISNA and Huangkwokhau ;)

ants
07-15-2007, 09:01 AM
Im proud of the indonesians! They prevented a clean sweep by the chinese.

tommy_bun
07-15-2007, 09:03 AM
that's your ugly excuse
i know you are shock and despreate

i laughed loudly to imagine how your face looked when China wd went down

:D :D :D :p,

you must proud of ina players, like KRISNA and Huangkwokhau ;)

That is just a joke lah.Anyway congrats to you,although we dont support the same team,I wanna be sportive.No hard feeling between you and me ok.

After I knew that china wd lost,my feeling was like "campur aduk".I dont know how to express it by words.It was shocking me,luckily I dont have to stay at the hospital 2nite:p

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 09:10 AM
That is just a joke lah.Anyway congrats to you,although we dont support the same team,I wanna be sportive.No hard feeling between you and me ok.

After I knew that china wd lost,my feeling was like "campur aduk".I dont know how to express it by words.It was shocking me,luckily I dont have to stay at the hospital 2nite:p

i was joking too :D...
it's OK
you opposite to others choices....

i remember your prediction about wd final, there was my name in it :D

tommy_bun
07-15-2007, 09:15 AM
i was joking too :D...
it's OK
you opposite to others choices....

i remember your prediction about wd final, there was my name in it :D

I thot u didnt read it.I saw knew you laughed 2 days while my tears kept on falling down.I said Vita/natsir would say "ampun..ampun..." the fact is It is me to say ampun......:D:D

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 09:20 AM
I thot u didnt read it.I saw knew you laughed 2 days while my tears kept on falling down.I said Vita/natsir would say "ampun..ampun..." the fact is It is me to say ampun......:D:D

i'm a good reader..

you gotta WACHA :D :D

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 09:40 AM
Actually it is ironic....INA did not win any titles in Indonesian open ( quite embarassing )but won 1 title in China...hope PBSI learned lesson and send more younger players to improve their mental, especially playing against chinese...

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 09:43 AM
I heard upcoming INA WD Yulianti/Richi is quite powerful also....
Rani/Endang should be split or into XD....I still like to get Pia Bernadette to play WD....may be with Polii...

Krisna
07-15-2007, 10:41 AM
I didn't even have the stomach to watch INA WD against a CHN pair... I didn't watch Astro at 3-5pm and just went to play badminton...

AND THEN THE AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT happened! :D:D:D:cool::cool::cool:
Lili-Vita won China Masters! I am so happy! :D:D:D

Krisna
07-15-2007, 10:43 AM
Just look at the faces of Yang Wei - Zhao Tingting... they were still shell-shocked... I think this is the first time in the history of the Superseries that a non-CHN pair actually won WD...

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 11:28 AM
I didn't even have the stomach to watch INA WD against a CHN pair... I didn't watch Astro at 3-5pm and just went to play badminton...

AND THEN THE AMAZING ACCOMPLISHMENT happened! :D:D:D:cool::cool::cool:
Lili-Vita won China Masters! I am so happy! :D:D:D
No wonder !! we were cheering left and right...

Krisna
07-15-2007, 09:26 PM
China Master Super Series
Sejarah Ganda PutriOleh adminSenin, 16-Juli-2007, 07:40:1392 klikhttp://www.bulutangkis.com/images/friend.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/friend.php?op=FriendSend&artid=2447)http://www.bulutangkis.com/images/print.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/mod.php?mod=publisher&op=printarticle&artid=2447)JAKARTA(SINDO) – Untuk kali pertama sepanjang kejuaraan Super Series, ganda putri Indonesia merebut gelar juara di China. Gelar dipersembahkan Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa. JAKARTA(SINDO) – Untuk kali pertama sepanjang kejuaraan Super Series, ganda putri Indonesia merebut gelar juara di China. Gelar dipersembahkan Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa.

Pasangan baru ganda putri Indonesia itu mengalahkan peringkat 11 BWF asal China Zhao Tingting/Yang Wei 12-21, 21-15, 21-16, kemarin. Gelar tak terduga ini datang dari partai yang tidak pernah bersinar sejak pertengahan 2006. Tahun lalu, satu-satunya gelar pertandingan di Negeri Tirai Bambu dipersembahkan ganda putra Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan.

Kemenangan Lilyana/Vita sekaligus menggagalkan aksi sapu bersih tuan rumah. Gelar ini juga jadi pelepas dahaga karena sepanjang digelarnya enam Super Series sejak awal tahun, Indonesia tidak sekali pun meraih juara. Bahkan, saat Indonesia Super Series, pebulutangkis pelatnas dipermalukan China dan Malaysia.

Terobosan baru menduetkan pebulutangkis spesialis ganda campuran, akhirnya membuahkan hasil. Lilyana/Vita menjadi sejarah bulutangkis Indonesia yang mengakhiri paceklik gelar juara pebulutangkis pelatnas Cipayung Padahal, nomor ganda putri selama ini dipandang sebelah mata karena kualitasnya tidak kunjung meningkat.

Melihat sejarah sejak 2004, nomor ganda putri hanya baru bisa bicara di kejuaraan berlevel satelit, bintang dua, dan empat. Tercatat, saat kejuaraan Asia 2004, pasangan Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti meraih gelar juara. Sayangnya, keberhasilan tersebut tidak berlanjut, hingga Rani/Endang baru kembali juara saat kejuaraan bintang dua Belanda Terbuka.

Jo Novita/ Gresyia Polii yang diduetkan sejak 2005 hanya meraih satu gelar di kejuaraan bintang empat Filipina Terbuka, tahun lalu. ''Kemenangan ini membuktikan kepada dunia bulutangkis internasional bahwa ganda putri Indonesia bisa bersaing melawan China,'' ujar Lilyana. Pada pertandingan kemarin, pasangan yang kali pertama diduetkan di China harus menjalani partai menegangkan.

Bagaimana tidak, harapan menyelesaikan pertandingan dengan dua set kemenangan ternyata berubah jadi tiga set. Bertanding di set pembuka, pasangan asal klub Tangkas Jakarta ini terlambat panas dan harus menelan kekalahan pertama 12-21. Tidak ingin jadi pecundang, dua dara ayu pelatnas Cipayung ini langsung menggebrak di set kedua dan terus unggul sejak poin pembuka hingga posisi 19-14.

Lilyana/Vita yang mengandalkan permainan net berhasil merebut kemenangan di set kedua, 21-15. Set ketiga, Lilyana/Vita harus menguras tenaga lebih keras lagi. Saling kejar mengejar poin terus terjadi. Mulai 8-8, 13-13, dan 15-15. Setelah itu, Lilyana/Vita langsung melejit menambah poin hingga 20-15. Meski Zhao/Yang sempat mencuri satu poin, tapi dewi fortuna tetap berpihak kepada pasangan Indonesia ini, yang akhirnya memboyong gelar juara perdana Super Series ke Tanah Air.

Pada pertandingan lain, Indonesia juga memiliki peluang untuk mengawinkan juara ganda putra-putri. Sayangnya, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan gagal menaklukkan juara dunia ganda putra Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun. Kekhawatiran Kido/Hendra akan ketangguhan fisik dan mental tanding Fu/Cai akhirnya terbukti. Pada partai final ulangan 2006 ini, Kido/Hendra menyerah 15-21, 16-21 dalam waktu 31 menit. (nur mekah/seputar-indonesia.com)

ronnie14
07-15-2007, 09:27 PM
indnesian gals rox la :)

Krisna
07-15-2007, 09:30 PM
No wonder !! we were cheering left and right...

Yeah man... I regret not being there.... :o But who could have guessed at the start of this tournament that INA would win WD... :p Taufik maybe. Kido-Hendra maybe. Lili-Nova maybe... but Vita-Lili... er... even those 2 girls themselves could not have guessed... :p

Another great work of doubles coach Richard Mainaky and Christian Hadinata... ;)

badMania
07-15-2007, 09:36 PM
Wow...Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa have done the impossible, beating 3 Chinese pairs, the 4th seed Wong Pei Tty/Chin Ee Hui and a top 10 ranked Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota en route to winning the title. Both Du Jing/Yu Yang and Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting beat their compatriots Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen and Gao Ling/Huang Sui earlier, so, beating two of the top 4 pairs in front of the home crowd was simply an incredible feat :eek:

I was unable to watch or follow the game live yesterday afternoon due to some family matters. Neither was I able to access the Internet until this morning. Imagine my shock and joy when I read Kompas (yeah, I am in SBY now) at 7:30am local time. Unbelieavable indeed :cool:

True to my prediction, this pair is definitely going to kick some butts...and will be stronger than Jo Novita/Greysia Polii to emerge as INA's no 1 pair for both the Olympics and Uber Cup next year!

IMHO, Jo Novita is simply too weak and should be replaced! Greysia Polii deserves a better partner than her. As for Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti, they should be retained as they will make a good backup pair (at least still in the top 16 at this moment). Lita Nurlita/Nathalia Poluakan is a gone case...while Yulianti/Dili Puspita Richi will be a pair to watch for the future.

badMania
07-15-2007, 09:40 PM
Yeah man... I regret not being there.... :o But who could have guessed at the start of this tournament that INA would win WD... :p Taufik maybe. Kido-Hendra maybe. Lili-Nova maybe... but Vita-Lili... er... even those 2 girls themselves could not have guessed... :p

Another great work of doubles coach Richard Mainaky and Christian Hadinata... ;)

I met Ko Aryono at the stadium on Wednesday and had a little chat with him. Indeed...no one expected us to win...not even a single chance...which is why this ranks as probably a miracle :D Both Richard and Christian were not in Chengdu last week.

Greysia might have a slight tinge of regret for breaking up with Vita. She was so disappointed when I saw her as she just lost two matches on Wednesday morning.

ants
07-15-2007, 10:22 PM
Who doesnt look dissapointed when they lose.

Krisna
07-15-2007, 10:56 PM
Greysia need someone with power... Maybe Meliana Jauhari or Shendy Puspa...

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 11:23 PM
Greysia need her partner got power. You means Greysia power not enough and also Jo power not enough. So both of them can do offensive right.

Different with Liliana/Vita.. Both of them can do offensive and smash better.

Greysia need someone with power... Maybe Meliana Jauhari or Shendy Puspa...

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 11:26 PM
I think this is from malaysia news.

This news not correct. Indonesia XD won the 1st singapore super series 2007 (Vita Marissa/Flamdy Limpele).

And Liliana/Vita won the 2nd Super Series for INA.

China Master Super Series
Sejarah Ganda PutriOleh adminSenin, 16-Juli-2007, 07:40:1392 klikhttp://www.bulutangkis.com/images/friend.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/friend.php?op=FriendSend&artid=2447)http://www.bulutangkis.com/images/print.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/mod.php?mod=publisher&op=printarticle&artid=2447)JAKARTA(SINDO) – Untuk kali pertama sepanjang kejuaraan Super Series, ganda putri Indonesia merebut gelar juara di China. Gelar dipersembahkan Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa. JAKARTA(SINDO) – Untuk kali pertama sepanjang kejuaraan Super Series, ganda putri Indonesia merebut gelar juara di China. Gelar dipersembahkan Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa.

Pasangan baru ganda putri Indonesia itu mengalahkan peringkat 11 BWF asal China Zhao Tingting/Yang Wei 12-21, 21-15, 21-16, kemarin. Gelar tak terduga ini datang dari partai yang tidak pernah bersinar sejak pertengahan 2006. Tahun lalu, satu-satunya gelar pertandingan di Negeri Tirai Bambu dipersembahkan ganda putra Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan.

Kemenangan Lilyana/Vita sekaligus menggagalkan aksi sapu bersih tuan rumah. Gelar ini juga jadi pelepas dahaga karena sepanjang digelarnya enam Super Series sejak awal tahun, Indonesia tidak sekali pun meraih juara. Bahkan, saat Indonesia Super Series, pebulutangkis pelatnas dipermalukan China dan Malaysia.

Terobosan baru menduetkan pebulutangkis spesialis ganda campuran, akhirnya membuahkan hasil. Lilyana/Vita menjadi sejarah bulutangkis Indonesia yang mengakhiri paceklik gelar juara pebulutangkis pelatnas Cipayung Padahal, nomor ganda putri selama ini dipandang sebelah mata karena kualitasnya tidak kunjung meningkat.

Melihat sejarah sejak 2004, nomor ganda putri hanya baru bisa bicara di kejuaraan berlevel satelit, bintang dua, dan empat. Tercatat, saat kejuaraan Asia 2004, pasangan Rani Mundiasti/Endang Nursugianti meraih gelar juara. Sayangnya, keberhasilan tersebut tidak berlanjut, hingga Rani/Endang baru kembali juara saat kejuaraan bintang dua Belanda Terbuka.

Jo Novita/ Gresyia Polii yang diduetkan sejak 2005 hanya meraih satu gelar di kejuaraan bintang empat Filipina Terbuka, tahun lalu. ''Kemenangan ini membuktikan kepada dunia bulutangkis internasional bahwa ganda putri Indonesia bisa bersaing melawan China,'' ujar Lilyana. Pada pertandingan kemarin, pasangan yang kali pertama diduetkan di China harus menjalani partai menegangkan.

Bagaimana tidak, harapan menyelesaikan pertandingan dengan dua set kemenangan ternyata berubah jadi tiga set. Bertanding di set pembuka, pasangan asal klub Tangkas Jakarta ini terlambat panas dan harus menelan kekalahan pertama 12-21. Tidak ingin jadi pecundang, dua dara ayu pelatnas Cipayung ini langsung menggebrak di set kedua dan terus unggul sejak poin pembuka hingga posisi 19-14.

Lilyana/Vita yang mengandalkan permainan net berhasil merebut kemenangan di set kedua, 21-15. Set ketiga, Lilyana/Vita harus menguras tenaga lebih keras lagi. Saling kejar mengejar poin terus terjadi. Mulai 8-8, 13-13, dan 15-15. Setelah itu, Lilyana/Vita langsung melejit menambah poin hingga 20-15. Meski Zhao/Yang sempat mencuri satu poin, tapi dewi fortuna tetap berpihak kepada pasangan Indonesia ini, yang akhirnya memboyong gelar juara perdana Super Series ke Tanah Air.

Pada pertandingan lain, Indonesia juga memiliki peluang untuk mengawinkan juara ganda putra-putri. Sayangnya, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan gagal menaklukkan juara dunia ganda putra Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun. Kekhawatiran Kido/Hendra akan ketangguhan fisik dan mental tanding Fu/Cai akhirnya terbukti. Pada partai final ulangan 2006 ini, Kido/Hendra menyerah 15-21, 16-21 dalam waktu 31 menit. (nur mekah/seputar-indonesia.com)

abedeng
07-15-2007, 11:32 PM
I think this is from malaysia news.

This news not correct. Indonesia XD won the 1st singapore super series 2007 (Vita Marissa/Flamdy Limpele).

And Liliana/Vita won the 2nd Super Series for INA.

No, this news is from Indonesia's press, not Malaysia. As you said, it is not correct, this is not the 1st Indonesian victory in the Super Series.

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 11:37 PM
And also can see from this INA NEWS:

China can't take all. Lost 1 (WD)..so INA again did it. INA players good mentally...I am very satisfied to them.

From this news: This title 2 times for Vita Marissa (Singapore Super Series and China Master Super Series). So INA take 2 times already (not 1 time). So The malaysia news is not correct..OK..

Gagalkan Supremasi China, Panen Setelah 6 Tahun Paceklik http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/images/M_images/pdf_button.png (http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/index2.php?option=com_content&do_pdf=1&id=2227) http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/images/M_images/printButton.png (http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/index2.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=2227&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=2) http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/images/M_images/emailButton.png (http://www.badminton-indonesia.com/joomla/index2.php?option=com_content&task=emailform&id=2227&itemid=2) Written by Dania Ciptadi Monday, 16 July 2007 Satu-satunya Super Series Dimana China Kelolosan Gelar Ganda Putri

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Foto: Vita Marissa dan Lilyana Natsir menyatakan kegembiraannya setelah berhasil menang atas pasangan tuan rumah, unggulan keenam, Zhao Tingting/Wei Yili. Mereka menang lewat rubber set, 12-21, 21-15, 21-16.
Pada turnamen berhadiah total 250.000 dolar AS, China Masters Super Series yang berlangsung di Sichuan Provincial Gymnasium, Chengdu, Indonesia berhasil membawa pulang mahkota ganda putri melalui pasangan baru Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir (Butet) dan menggagalkan tuan rumah China dari memborong habis gelar di turnamen ini. Gelar Vita/Butet ini tentu saja mengejutkan karena mereka menjadi juara saat turun pertama kali pada turnamen internasional. "Surprise juga. Tetapi, lebih membanggakan kami bisa juara di kandang China," kata Butet seperti dilansir di Kompas (16 Juli 2007). Bagi Vita sendiri, ini adalah gelar keduanya tahun ini setelah sebelumnya merebut gelar ganda campuran bersama Flandy Limpele di Singapura Super Series.
Vita/Butet tak hanya menembus dominasi tuan rumah saja, tapi inilah kali pertama sejak 2001 Indonesia bisa meraih gelar juara di nomor ganda putri. Terakhir kali gelar ini diraih tim pelatnas di Indonesia Terbuka 2001 yang juga diwakili oleh Vita, dengan pasangannya Deyana Lomban.
"Ini adalah berkat dari Tuhan, tadi kita menang strategi aja, selama disini penampilan mereka baik," ujar pelatih ganda putri Aryono Miranat. Butet sendiri mengatakan bahwa kunci kemenangannya adalah bermain lepas, tanpa beban, apalagi lawan yang dihadapi adalah China yang selama ini mendominasi sektor ganda putri.
Pada final ganda putri yang menjadi partai terakhir ini, Vita/Butet berhasil bangkit dari kekalahannya di game pertama dari pasangan tuan rumah Yang Wei/Zhao Tingting (unggulan kelima dan peringkat 11 dunia) dan mengejar cekatan di dua set selanjutnya, dengan skor 12-21, 21-15, 21-16. Atas kemenangan tersebut, pasangan yang disiapkan untuk menghadapi Piala Uber 2008 di Jakarta itu berhak atas hadiah uang sebesar 15.250 dolar AS.
Sebelum berlaga melawan Yang/Zhao, sebelumnya Vita/Butet juga berhasil melangkahi Du Jing/Yu Yang (China), unggulan 8 dan peringkat 6 dunia; Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota (Jepang), unggulan 6 dan peringkat 9 dunia; dan Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui (Malaysia), unggulan 4 dan peringkat 7 dunia. Karena baru pertama kali berlaga di Super Series, Vita/Butet belum memiliki peringkat di Federasi Bulutangkis Dunia (WBF).
Di empat nomor lainnya, China mendapat gelar melalui pasangan kekasih Lin Dan (tunggal putra) dan Xie Xingfang (tunggal putri) setelah ganda campuran Zheng Bo/Gao Ling meneriakkan kemenangannya dan Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan diserakkan oleh unggulan pertama Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun.
Ganda Putra, Wasit Tak Adil?
Sementara itu, ganda putra Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan gagal mengulang kemenangannya atas pasangan nomor satu dunia, Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, di China Terbuka tahun lalu. Tahun ini, Fu/Cai berhasil membalaskan kekalahan dengan skor 21-15, 21-16 “hanya” dalam waktu 31 menit.

"Ya kalah nih, tadi banyak diakali wasit. Servis empat kali dinyatakan fault, pukulan mereka yang keluar tiga kali dinyatakan masuk," ujar Kido yang mengaku tidak puas dengan tindakan wasit saat dihubungi usai pertandingan, seperti dilansir di Antara (15 Juli 2007). "Tapi biar bagaimanapun mereka memang kuat," tambahnya sportif.

Kekalahan pada final pertamanya dalam turnamen Super Series itu membuat rekor pertemuan Markis/Hendra dengan pasangan ranking satu dunia tersebut menjadi 2-3 dari lima pertemuan.

Sumber: Kompas, Antara, Tournament Software, WBF, lain-lain
Last Updated ( Monday, 16 July 2007 )

kokcheng
07-16-2007, 12:23 AM
Wow!Congratulations to Natsir/Marissa.The win is very good for everyone.For China,they cant take WD for granted,for Indonesia try more new combinations.At the end of the the quality of the individual players do stand out.It's just the beginning,girls,so keep your feet on the ground.

badminto_expert
07-16-2007, 01:06 AM
This INA WD is not new actually. Already tried at Indonesia League 2007 and they are very solid. Tangkas badminton club made this WD LILIANA/VITA MARISSA, so I think PBSI see is good result for then at Indonesia League and try this one for China Master SS and result also good..

So PBSI want to see also at Philipine Open, If still good I think both of them will partner foreever. and new INA WD just born.

Wow!Congratulations to Natsir/Marissa.The win is very good for everyone.For China,they cant take WD for granted,for Indonesia try more new combinations.At the end of the the quality of the individual players do stand out.It's just the beginning,girls,so keep your feet on the ground.

V3i HoN6
07-16-2007, 01:17 AM
This INA WD is not new actually. Already tried at Indonesia League 2007 and they are very solid. Tangkas badminton club made this WD LILIANA/VITA MARISSA, so I think PBSI see is good result for then at Indonesia League and try this one for China Master SS and result also good..

So PBSI want to see also at Philipine Open, If still good I think both of them will partner foreever. and new INA WD just born.
If they are serious about this partnership I still hope that they keep playing Mix double as a training ground for them.
Will they pair up Limpele and Widianto for MD?

Krisna
07-16-2007, 01:48 AM
I think this is from malaysia news.

This news not correct. Indonesia XD won the 1st singapore super series 2007 (Vita Marissa/Flamdy Limpele).

And Liliana/Vita won the 2nd Super Series for INA.

No, this news is from Indonesia's press, not Malaysia. As you said, it is not correct, this is not the 1st Indonesian victory in the Super Series.

The news is in Indonesian. Please read carefully, it said: this is the first time in the Super Series, Indonesia's WD won a title in China... This is a correct statement. ;)

Untuk kali pertama sepanjang kejuaraan Super Series, ganda putri Indonesia merebut gelar juara di China. Gelar dipersembahkan Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa.

robin7
07-16-2007, 01:55 AM
China Master Super Series Sejarah Ganda Putri Oleh admin Senin, 16-Juli-2007, 07:40:1392 klikhttp://www.bulutangkis.com/images/friend.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/friend.php?op=FriendSend&artid=2447)http://www.bulutangkis.com/images/print.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/mod.php?mod=publisher&op=printarticle&artid=2447)JAKARTA(SINDO) – Untuk kali pertama sepanjang kejuaraan Super Series, ganda putri Indonesia merebut gelar juara di China. Gelar dipersembahkan Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa.


I think this is from malaysia news.
This news not correct. Indonesia XD won the 1st singapore super series 2007 (Vita Marissa/Flamdy Limpele).
And Liliana/Vita won the 2nd Super Series for INA.

No, this news is from Indonesia's press, not Malaysia. As you said, it is not correct, this is not the 1st Indonesian victory in the Super Series.

It's nothing wrong the news & I'm very sure that it's from INA instead of MAS.

In case you aren't aware, WD in Malaysia is called "beregu wanita" whereas Indonesia calls it "ganda putri".

It clearly stated that "They are the first WD from INA winning the Super Series."

Vita Marissa/Flamdy Limpele are the first mixed doubles who won Super Series.:)

Krisna
07-16-2007, 01:56 AM
Greysia need her partner got power. You means Greysia power not enough and also Jo power not enough. So both of them can do offensive right.

Different with Liliana/Vita.. Both of them can do offensive and smash better.

I mean Jo's power is not good enough... :) She is very good at defending, but has limited offensive power and variations... I am sorry to say: Jo is too short. A PBSI official once observed: the net is higher than Jo's height... :o

Greysia is excellent on both offense and defense. And so feisty too... Very spunky... Mentally very tough. I like her. She has fire in her eyes... ;) I talked to Greysia a couple of times in the Indonesian Superliga Badminton. Greysia is nice to me... Firda too. I actually like all of the Jaya Raya girls... Friendly bunch of people... :D

Krisna
07-16-2007, 02:00 AM
It's nothing wrong the news & I'm very sure that it's from INA instead of MAS.

In case you aren't aware, WD in Malaysia is called "beregu wanita" whereas Indonesia calls it "ganda putri".

It clearly stated that "They are the first WD from INA winning the Super Series."

Vita Marissa/Flamdy Limpele are the first mixed doubles who won Super Series.:)

Precisely! robin7, you and I wrote around the same time, huh? :D The news was never wrong. Some of the readers just didn't read correctly...

V3i HoN6
07-16-2007, 02:12 AM
This INA WD is not new actually. Already tried at Indonesia League 2007 and they are very solid. Tangkas badminton club made this WD LILIANA/VITA MARISSA, so I think PBSI see is good result for then at Indonesia League and try this one for China Master SS and result also good..
If they are just paired in Indon league (or Indon open??), or anything less than half year.
I would say they are still new.

So PBSI want to see also at Philipine Open, If still good I think both of them will partner foreever. and new INA WD just born.So now they are new again?
Conflicting man. ok la. I was just joking.:p
I know what you mean.


Anyway something interesting from the news.
Ya kalah nih, tadi banyak diakali wasit. Servis empat kali dinyatakan fault, pukulan mereka yang keluar tiga kali dinyatakan masuk," ujar Kido yang mengaku tidak puas dengan tindakan wasit saat dihubungi usai pertandingan, seperti dilansir di Antara (15 Juli 2007). "Tapi biar bagaimanapun mereka memang kuat," tambahnya sportif.
What is the meaning of "diakali wasit", "usai", "dilansir"?
I can roughly understand that Kido complaint out of disatisfaction for the siding judges and line calls which include four service faults and 3 bad line calls.(i dont remember that many). But he added that they(cai/fu) were still great (pair) whatsoever.

Krisna
07-16-2007, 02:27 AM
I hope INA Uber Cup 2008 is Lilyana/Vita, Greysia/Jo and 3 Marias
(Maria Kristin, Maria Febe & Maria Elfira)

Yes, I agree with you, Sandy! :D 3 Marias from Djarum! .....well, maybe we'll put in Firda as an alternative... I like her smile. She keeps smiling at me... Such a sexy smile... :D ...and frankly she is still better than Maria Elfira and Maria Febe today... But maybe not by next year's Uber Cup... :p

Krisna
07-16-2007, 02:28 AM
INA's women's squad is really a combo of the 3 top clubs eh? Djarum, Jaya Raya, and Tangkas all have the top INA women's players...

Singles
Maria Kristin [Djarum]
Maria Elfira [Djarum]
Maria Febe [Djarum]
Firdasari [Jaya Raya]
Pia Zebaidah [Jaya Raya]
Fransisca Ratnasari [Jaya Raya]

Doubles
Lili Natsir [Tangkas]
Vita Marissa [Tangkas]
Jo Novita [Tangkas]
Endang N. [Tangkas]
Greysia Polii [Jaya Raya]
Rani M. [Jaya Raya]


I would also suggest as WD substitutes:
Meliana Jauhari [Djarum]
Shendy Puspa [Djarum]

huangkwokhau
07-16-2007, 02:29 AM
If they are just paired in Indon league (or Indon open??), or anything less than half year.
I would say they are still new.

So now they are new again?
Conflicting man. ok la. I was just joking.:p
I know what you mean.


Anyway something interesting from the news.

What is the meaning of "diakali wasit", "usai", "dilansir"?
I can roughly understand that Kido complaint out of disatisfaction for the siding judges and line calls which include four service faults and 3 bad line calls.(i dont remember that many). But he added that they(cai/fu) were still great (pair) whatsoever.

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Basically Kido said that Umpire cheated them....( diakali wasit), literraly umpire fooled them....he did complaint about it and at the same time, He praised a good play of FHF/CY.

Krisna
07-16-2007, 02:30 AM
If they are serious about this partnership I still hope that they keep playing Mix double as a training ground for them.
Will they pair up Limpele and Widianto for MD?

I doubt it... Nova and Flandy are just too old... Sorry... :p

huangkwokhau
07-16-2007, 04:39 PM
from the report of International badminton.org..They mentioned that Vita/butet are "tiny indonesians"......:mad::mad: :confused::confused:The writer must be blind not to see those muscles and big legs than their chinese counter parts...:rolleyes::rolleyes:

badMania
07-16-2007, 09:26 PM
What is the meaning of "diakali wasit", "usai", "dilansir"?
I can roughly understand that Kido complaint out of disatisfaction for the siding judges and line calls which include four service faults and 3 bad line calls.(i dont remember that many). But he added that they(cai/fu) were still great (pair) whatsoever.
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"Diakali wasit" = cheated by the umpire
"Usai" = finished/completed

Torres
07-17-2007, 03:59 AM
Ina's player always have an excuse for their loss.
I remembered MK / HS blame the umpire in WC 06 when they loss to England's pair.

huangkwokhau
07-17-2007, 05:53 AM
Ina's player always have an excuse for their loss.
I remembered MK / HS blame the umpire in WC 06 when they loss to England's pair.
Actually in this final, I might agree with the players ....as Service judge faults most of foreign players' service, I did not see one for CHN...4 service fault equals 4 points to opponents....also 2 for ENG if I am correct...Does not mean that they would win but at least the score could be tighten...;)

pjswift
07-18-2007, 02:55 AM
Actually in this final, I might agree with the players ....as Service judge faults most of foreign players' service, I did not see one for CHN...4 service fault equals 4 points to opponents....also 2 for ENG if I am correct...Does not mean that they would win but at least the score could be tighten...;)
In NSS, 4 service fault equals 8, not 4 points to opponents. Eg if A is 5 and B is 3 before wrong call,A would have been 6 and B 3 if correct. Instead it becomes A is 5 and B 4. So what should have been 6-3 becomes 5-4. So even one wrong call can determine the wrong winner.The worse thing about service fault calls is that it is likely to jitterbug the poor victimised player so he cannot continue to play his best.It's the easiest way for the sj to decide the match outcome.Never underestimate the power of the sj.Umpire is nothing compared to the sj's sleaze.

hcyong
07-18-2007, 03:04 AM
In NSS, 4 service fault equals 8, not 4 points to opponents. Eg if A is 5 and B is 3 before wrong call,A would have been 6 and B 3 if correct. Instead it becomes A is 5 and B 4. So what should have been 6-3 becomes 5-4.

It is not neccessarily 6-3. If the chance of winning a rally fairly is 50%, then it could have been 6-3 or 5-4 equally. Therefore, the average difference is still 1 point.

I agree with you about the psychological effect.

pjswift
07-18-2007, 03:13 AM
It is not neccessarily 6-3. If the chance of winning a rally fairly is 50%, then it could have been 6-3 or 5-4 equally. Therefore, the average difference is still 1 point.

I agree with you about the psychological effect.
You're right. What about wrong calls resulting from rallies?

hcyong
07-18-2007, 03:54 AM
You're right. What about wrong calls resulting from rallies?

Depends. In most cases, it is about line calls. In this case, the rally is over, so the difference between right and wrong is 2 points.