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ants
07-14-2007, 03:31 AM
MS Department LinDan vs Wong Choon Han.
LinDan is definately a clear favourite to win tournament after winning LCW in the Semis. However Wong CH will not give up easily. As most of us know that he is a fighter.

jasonmarc
07-14-2007, 04:10 AM
MS LD VS WCH ---- I would say LD has the edge over WCH as WCH is
playing his 1st final in SS after recovered from his injury......but my
heart goes to WCH...try your best WCH....;)

MD CY/FHF VS Kido/Hendra......no doubt is going to be CY/FHF...to win..:rolleyes:
I still remember how CY/FHF toying with Kido in Sudirman Cup final...:o


XD GL/ZB will prevail....Eng pair can only challenge but cant win....

WS Will be as usual ....very boring...:( ZN VS XXF....anybody can
win...boring....i pick XXF to win...:cool:

WD AS for this between Chn pairs.....is another match that is going to be
boring as usual again... i pick YW/ZTT to win.:cool:

Felicia_txh
07-14-2007, 04:25 AM
LD vs WCH:70-30..LD is a tough tough opponent to WCH!!I hope they play
rubber set to decide who is the champion!!All the best WCH!!;)

ZN vs XXF:50-50...;)

Markis/Hendra vs FHF/CY:I pick INA to become the champion!!

I hope CHN will not win all the titles..

ants
07-14-2007, 04:40 AM
Womens Singles
Final between Zhang Ning and XXF. These two individual will play their best everytime they meet. No holds barred even they are friends off court. I'm rooting for Zhang Ning to win.

Mens Doubles Cai/Fu vs Markis Kido - China will win. They have been playing extremely good and well coordinate and it feels that they are in a different league on their own.

Womens Doubles - Zhao TingTing/Yang Wei vs Natsir/Marissa - China to win again here... but the Indos might fight back.

MixD
Gao Ling/Zheng Bo vs Donna/Anthony - With Gao around.. no one can beats her.

ants
07-14-2007, 04:43 AM
China might have a sweep this time in this tournament. It all depends on Msia,Indonesia and England to not make it materialise.

jasonmarc
07-14-2007, 04:49 AM
Oops, wrong information in WD....but anyway...i still pick YW/ZTT to win...

huangkwokhau
07-14-2007, 04:49 AM
MS LD VS WCH ---- I would say LD has the edge over WCH as WCH is
playing his 1st final in SS after recovered from his injury......but my
heart goes to WCH...try your best WCH....;)

MD CY/FHF VS Kido/Hendra......no doubt is going to be CY/FHF...to win..:rolleyes:
I still remember how CY/FHF toying with Kido in Sudirman Cup final...:o


XD GL/ZB will prevail....Eng pair can only challenge but cant win....

WS Will be as usual ....very boring...:( ZN VS XXF....anybody can
win...boring....i pick XXF to win...:cool:

WD AS for this between Chn pairs.....is another match that is going to be
boring as usual again... i pick YW/ZTT to win.:cool:

You assume too fast for WD...at least CHN vs INA, no all CHN finals

flymordecai
07-14-2007, 04:53 AM
I hope CCTV5 shows all of the finals. They're coverage has been disappointing so far, but I suppose there are many sports events going on right now.

Felicia_txh
07-14-2007, 04:59 AM
LD vs WCH:70-30..LD is a tough tough opponent to WCH!!I hope they play
rubber set to decide who is the champion!!All the best WCH!!;)

ZN vs XXF:50-50...;)

Markis/Hendra vs FHF/CY:I pick INA to become the champion!!

I hope CHN will not win all the titles..

hcyong
07-14-2007, 05:06 AM
The biggest possibility is China sweeping the tournament. The event most in danger for China is, shockingly, WD.

We knew beforehand that the MS draw is top-heavy. In that competition, LD was the last man standing. In the bottom half, with Chen Hong, Chen Yu, Boonsak and Sony around, the surprising victor was Wong Choong Hann. I think the final will be a no-contest. But I hope WCH can make it respectable.

ZN and XXF, proved once again that even when they are not at their best, they are still above the rest of the field. 50-50 between the two. I predict Zhang.

I think the MD is another no-contest. Fu/Cai simply heads above the rest right now.

Zheng Bo/Gao Ling survived the pressure to make it to yet another final. Kellogg/Clark defeated Xie/Zhang and then Widianto/Natsir, and will be gunning for reputedly the best in the world now. I favour the Chinese to win, but it won't be straight forward.

I give a slight edge for the Chinese to win the WD, but Natsir/Marissa gotta realise they may never get another chance like that again. Once the Chinese re-organise (they should bring back ZJW, maybe a loss here will wake LYB up), they will aim to sweep the semifinals again.

fyong
07-14-2007, 05:13 AM
MS: I would say LD is more likely to win but i do hope that WCH can give a good fight and challege.

WS: I would go for ZN.

MD: FHF/CY is favourite but i do hope INA to win.

WD: ZTT/YW to win but INA will give a fight.

XD: No doubt GL/ZB will win.

Any result would be fine as long as CHN not winning all the titles.

leonardklh
07-14-2007, 05:17 AM
Men Single

Lin Dan Vs Wong Choon Hann

Women Single

Zhang Ning Vs Xie Xing Fang

Men Double

Fu Hai Feng - Cai Yun Vs Markis Kido - Hendra Setiawan

Women Double

Yang Wei - Zhao Ting Ting Vs Vita Marissa - Lilyana Natsir

Mixed Double

Zheng Bo - Gao Ling Vs Anthony Clark - Donna Kellogg

All The Name in Bold will win!! all the best !! cause tomorrow is the last day of china Master dy

leungwai18
07-14-2007, 05:22 AM
There is no one in this forum who has voted Xie Xingfang....I vote for her.....
XXF jia you

volcom
07-14-2007, 05:28 AM
China will effortlessly sweep all 5 titles like back in 2k5.

liangyuanruo
07-14-2007, 06:21 AM
China will effortlessly sweep all 5 titles like back in 2k5.

highly possible. wong choon han is kind of old, like vintage. haha.

the brit pair nathan robertson and gail emms might put a stop to that though.

liangyuanruo
07-14-2007, 06:22 AM
oops i mean anthony clark and donna kellogg.

abedeng
07-14-2007, 06:52 AM
Best chance to break CHN monopoly, in my opinion, will be Markis/Hendra. They have beaten the CHN MD a few times before, they can play as fast, it is only a matter of being able to vary their attack better since CY/FHF have improved so much that they hardly need to rely on defence.

Next best chance is Clark/Kellogg, then Vita/Lilyana.

Not to undermine WCH's great achievement in this tournament, but I think even he knows he has the least chance. Plus he has been playing 3-setters in all rounds except Q-final.

Krisna
07-14-2007, 06:54 AM
I am still surprised INA actually have a representative in the WD finals...

Krisna
07-14-2007, 06:56 AM
This Lili Natsir - Vita Marissa combo was only previously seen in the Indonesian Superliga Badminton when they were representing their club, Tangkas...

Krisna
07-14-2007, 07:00 AM
I predict Kido-Hendra over Cai-Fu in 3 games....

abedeng
07-14-2007, 07:04 AM
I predict Kido-Hendra over Cai-Fu in 3 games....

Why 3 games? Why not 2? :D

For WD, INA should use Vita in front, I notice that CHN WD (and XD) have more problems playing against tall and powerful opposition at the net.

lina_ngchiuhwa
07-14-2007, 07:07 AM
I'm wondering why Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya and Jens Erikson/Martin Lungaard did not feature in the China Masters? I know sometimes they can't beat the younger players b'coz of age barrier but they are still the best player right?

jasonmarc
07-14-2007, 07:30 AM
Looks like CHN could sweep all the titles tomorrow, i do hope WCH,INA and Eng representatives would be able to prevent CHN a clean sweep in the finals...

jasonmarc
07-14-2007, 07:34 AM
This Lili Natsir - Vita Marissa combo was only previously seen in the Indonesian Superliga Badminton when they were representing their club, Tangkas...

Yes, they acually quite strong for the Young CHN pair.....good to see there are WD pair other than CHN players in the final.:eek:.... and keep it up to challenge the CHN and beat them if possible..:p

X Ball
07-14-2007, 07:46 AM
LD vs WCH:70-30..LD is a tough tough opponent to WCH!!I hope they play
rubber set to decide who is the champion!!All the best WCH!!;)

ZN vs XXF:50-50...;)

Markis/Hendra vs FHF/CY:I pick INA to become the champion!!

I hope CHN will not win all the titles..

How about saying WCH is a tough tough opponent to LD ? I think LD will find that WCH will not lie down easily. He has come this far, I am pretty sure he wants to go all the way.

pjswift
07-14-2007, 07:58 AM
MS Department LinDan vs Wong Choon Han.
LinDan is definately a clear favourite to win tournament after winning LCW in the Semis. However Wong CH will not give up easily. As most of us know that he is a fighter.
Depends on how tired LD is. Don't think he breezed past LCW.
Funny thing I discovered about WCH's match statistics.In all the matches, when he smashed a lot in the G1, he lost G1. When he smashed a lot in the final game ie G2 if he won G1 or G3 when it went to rubber, he won. So maybe he should smash less in G1? And unleash thereafter .and enjoy the game..

pjswift
07-14-2007, 08:23 AM
Best chance to break CHN monopoly, in my opinion, will be Markis/Hendra. They have beaten the CHN MD a few times before, they can play as fast, it is only a matter of being able to vary their attack better since CY/FHF have improved so much that they hardly need to rely on defence.

Next best chance is Clark/Kellogg, then Vita/Lilyana.

Not to undermine WCH's great achievement in this tournament, but I think even he knows he has the least chance. Plus he has been playing 3-setters in all rounds except Q-final.
I don't think WCH will see that he has the least chance. If LCW took out LD mentally (not physically) like the way TH always have done to him, then LD may take more than 1 day to recover. That's how LD lost to LHI and PSH, the day after TH encounter. I always have a big question mark about his mental stamina.If LD is mentally tired, WCH has an advantage.WCH's physical stamina will still be good for the 5th consecutive match provided his opponent is also playing his 5th consecutive match which is the final. WCH's mental stamina has always been superb.And he never gives up.
So if I were WCH, I would assume LD's mentally drained, in which case,LD's 'little boy' mode will show up and as ants said, LD's weaknesses were revealed in the LCW match, so WCH knows what he has to do.

volcom
07-14-2007, 08:30 AM
WCH has always been mentally good that he has been hammered by XXZ everytime they've played

pjswift
07-14-2007, 08:40 AM
WCH has always been mentally good that he has been hammered by XXZ everytime they've played
And where is XXZ?

xofrevlis
07-14-2007, 08:40 AM
I don't think WCH will see that he has the least chance. If LCW took out LD mentally (not physically) like the way TH always have done to him, then LD may take more than 1 day to recover. That's how LD lost to LHI and PSH, the day after TH encounter. I always have a big question mark about his mental stamina.If LD is mentally tired, WCH has an advantage.WCH's physical stamina will still be good for the 5th consecutive match provided his opponent is also playing his 5th consecutive match which is the final. WCH's mental stamina has always been superb.And he never gives up.
So if I were WCH, I would assume LD's mentally drained, in which case,LD's 'little boy' mode will show up and as ants said, LD's weaknesses were revealed in the LCW match, so WCH knows what he has to do.

I disagree. I don't think LD would have won as many titles as he has if he was mentally weak. All those long gruelling matches with PG and LCW in the last few years and he came out on top against both. From the matches I've seen between LD and either, it's usually PG/LCW who are doing the dictating for most of the match whilst LD does the running. LD's physical stamina we know all about but he must also be working so very hard mentally in order to look for clues in his opponents' strokes so that he can keep up with their play. Having said that, that was the old LD; we still don't really know if he is able to play to that sort of insane standard nowadays, but it'll be interesting to find out.

Regardless, I think it'll be a good match where both players will have a battle on their hands. May the best man win. :D

xofrevlis
07-14-2007, 08:43 AM
WCH has always been mentally good that he has been hammered by XXZ everytime they've played

Credit where credit is due. I wouldn't say that WCH was mentally weaker than XXZ, but he often struggled against XXZ's netplay and smashes.

pjswift
07-14-2007, 09:01 AM
I disagree. I don't think LD would have won as many titles as he has if he was mentally weak. All those long gruelling matches with PG and LCW in the last few years and he came out on top against both. From the matches I've seen between LD and either, it's usually PG/LCW who are doing the dictating for most of the match whilst LD does the running. LD's physical stamina we know all about but he must also be working so very hard mentally in order to look for clues in his opponents' strokes so that he can keep up with their play. Having said that, that was the old LD; we still don't really know if he is able to play to that sort of insane standard nowadays, but it'll be interesting to find out.

Regardless, I think it'll be a good match where both players will have a battle on their hands. May the best man win. :D
Appreciate your clear if differing opinion.I did not say LD's mentally weak. Stamina is like a tank of gas. Normally a car's consumption is regular. However if the car were to suddenly have a heavy load, the gas may suddenly be used up quickly leaving little left. TH has that 'heavy load' effect on LD. PG never troubled LD. Don't know about LCW cos they've only met in the finals(?) so there's no match after to analyse...We 'll only know tomorrow.

zqloy
07-14-2007, 09:02 AM
Credit where credit is due. I wouldn't say that WCH was mentally weaker than XXZ, but he often struggled against XXZ's netplay and smashes.

WCH's mental is not weak, he weakest part in fact is his footwork.

xofrevlis
07-14-2007, 09:20 AM
Appreciate your clear if differing opinion.I did not say LD's mentally weak. Stamina is like a tank of gas. Normally a car's consumption is regular. However if the car were to suddenly have a heavy load, the gas may suddenly be used up quickly leaving little left. TH has that 'heavy load' effect on LD. PG never troubled LD. Don't know about LCW cos they've only met in the finals(?) so there's no match after to analyse...We 'll only know tomorrow.

There was the match between LD and LCW in the AE06 semi-final which LD then went on to beat LHI in the finals. I'm sure PG gave LD more than enough trouble a few times, most notably the WC05 semis where LD went on to perform poorly against Taufik in the finals. However I honestly believe that Taufik would have won even if LD had an easy ride against PG; he was just way too good that day.

tommy_bun
07-14-2007, 09:45 AM
Lin Dan VS Wong CH-----Of course,Lin Dan will win.After beating LCW,His confidence will gain up again.

Zhang Ning VS Xie XF-----Zhang says..Sorry Xin Fang you are just unlucky to meet me in the final.You should have been a defending champion but You didnt take ur chance last year by letting Wang Lin beat you.You just can dlame your self.

Fu/Cai VS kida/hendra-----We will never let you embarass us again kido/hendra.It was enough for both of you beating us at our homecrowd at last year China Open and World Cup.We will never let it happen again.

Yang/Zhao VS vita/natsir-----My tears suddenly fell down on my face when I knew my fave Du/yu lost to ina wd.This was the biggest upset of the day.China should let Wei/zhang win over Du/Yu yesterday.Since the thing is getting serious,I will pray wih all my heart and soul for Yang/Zhao.Show them that they were just lucky.Cmon girls show them who is the best and take avange for your teammates.Make them get down on their knees and say "Ampun....Ampun" :D:p.Never let other wds from other contries to steal it.Do your best Yang/Zhao,My prayer will always be with you.
Btw,I cant imagine that Taufik-ist were laughing out loud.Anyway Congrats Taufik-ist.Tomorrow is gonna be turn to laugh luodly..HAHHAA..AHAHAHHA

Zheng/Gao VS Clark/kellog-----Maybe Zheng/Gao will say...Sorry clark/kellog,you have to keep your dream away again of getting your first SS tiitle,We need to confirm to the world our "UNBEATABLE" Status.Being runner-up is enough for you:D:D

Yeah China....take all titles,keep on dominating

bananaboy
07-14-2007, 09:56 AM
... Wacha... :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying::crying::crying::crying::crying:

Anyways, be afraid, be very afraid of a clean sweep by China tomorrow.:p:D:D:D:cool:

pjswift
07-14-2007, 10:06 AM
There was the match between LD and LCW in the AE06 semi-final which LD then went on to beat LHI in the finals. I'm sure PG gave LD more than enough trouble a few times, most notably the WC05 semis where LD went on to perform poorly against Taufik in the finals. However I honestly believe that Taufik would have won even if LD had an easy ride against PG; he was just way too good that day.
Good note. Both LD and LHI were exhausted; it was a poor final.Right now I don't think WCH has reached that exhausted state. LHI cannot compare with WCH's stamina. May be wrong but I don't think LHI has ever lasted 3 rubber set matches.
One question.Would you say it's more mentally taxing to LD playing LCW yesterday compared to AE06? (It's definitely physically more demanding in AE06 cos of the OSS) What I mean is do you think LD had to think more what's LCW's next move during the whole match? ( I believe LCW's matches before IO07 were physically demanding but mentally less taxing cos his play's quite predictable but IO07 onwards more mentally exhausting to his opponents.)

hcyong
07-14-2007, 10:46 AM
Maybe both LD and LCW were exhausted, that's why the semi-final felt so lifeless.

samuel882
07-14-2007, 10:53 AM
When many here predicts LCW & Wacha goin into final based on their perfomance throughout previuos round.. Then the results come in the others ways around !!
Wat a tournament it is !!
Will be remmbered as one of the Best SS..

Jessica
07-14-2007, 11:08 AM
Well,i am really happy the WCH enter the final.Despite any outcome tomorrow,i really feel happy for him.WCH is a gentleman in my heart and he is one of my favourite player before.I really feel sad for his injury and his passionate towards badminton really moved me a lot.Now,he proved that he can still play and have some weapons in his hand.No doubt,tomorrow final is really tough for him as his opponent is LD and surely LD has an edge over him but i believe he will fight hard and done his very best.No matter what the result is,i am really happy for him.

huangkwokhau
07-14-2007, 11:11 AM
I'm wondering why Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya and Jens Erikson/Martin Lungaard did not feature in the China Masters? I know sometimes they can't beat the younger players b'coz of age barrier but they are still the best player right?

Candra just played for Japanese club, Tonami??? last week.( they won)..may be he is tired so as some of Japanese MS skipped china master....I believe the competition between japanese companies....

robin7
07-14-2007, 11:31 AM
Oh no, not again a clean sweep for CHN. Only MAS WCH, INA WD & ENG XD can stop it.

xofrevlis
07-14-2007, 12:26 PM
Good note. Both LD and LHI were exhausted; it was a poor final.Right now I don't think WCH has reached that exhausted state. LHI cannot compare with WCH's stamina. May be wrong but I don't think LHI has ever lasted 3 rubber set matches.
One question.Would you say it's more mentally taxing to LD playing LCW yesterday compared to AE06? (It's definitely physically more demanding in AE06 cos of the OSS) What I mean is do you think LD had to think more what's LCW's next move during the whole match? ( I believe LCW's matches before IO07 were physically demanding but mentally less taxing cos his play's quite predictable but IO07 onwards more mentally exhausting to his opponents.)

Good question. When we talk about psychological aspects of the game like mental stamina I think it's a little too subjective to give a really good account. On one side of the argument, it could be more mentally draining for LD playing LCW under the old scoring system simply because there are more shots and rallies. On the other hand under the new scoring system, the higher intensity that the players play at will come into the equation.

I feel that LCW has always been the dictator of rallies between the two, probably more so with the new scoring system. LD's approach always seems to be to soak up the pressure and counter-attack when he sees the opportunity within the ralies.

I would probably say it's overall more taxing on LD to play LCW under the new scoring system, providing LCW plays his shots well. I really couldn't say if it's mentally more taxing or not, but I feel like if LCW ups the pace then LD will have to expend more mentally and physically in chasing the shuttle in comparison to the old scoring system.

huangkwokhau
07-14-2007, 12:40 PM
Good question. When we talk about psychological aspects of the game like mental stamina I think it's a little too subjective to give a really good account. On one side of the argument, it could be more mentally draining for LD playing LCW under the old scoring system simply because there are more shots and rallies. On the other hand under the new scoring system, the higher intensity that the players play at will come into the equation.

I feel that LCW has always been the dictator of rallies between the two, probably more so with the new scoring system. LD's approach always seems to be to soak up the pressure and counter-attack when he sees the opportunity within the ralies.

I would probably say it's overall more taxing on LD to play LCW under the new scoring system, providing LCW plays his shots well. I really couldn't say if it's mentally more taxing or not, but I feel like if LCW ups the pace then LD will have to expend more mentally and physically in chasing the shuttle in comparison to the old scoring system.

In new scoring system...it gives more pressure to both players....who makes mistake, the reward goes to opponent..so players have to put more game plan to win matches....and if you are behind 3 or 4 points, you feel more pressure to catch up which can create more mistakes or pressue on your opponents as you are catching up more points to even the game........in old system...you make mistake, there is no score awarded to your opponents so you are encouraged to play more aggresive....

On stamina wise...players like new score system and old system, you have to be really fit...actually we see more players collapse in next round after several tight games on previous matches....
I have to say that stamina plays part, but not big as mental on this score system.....

Wai Shing
07-14-2007, 01:55 PM
Someone referred to Xia xuanze vs WCH earlier. It's well known that Xia has always been WCH's "black star". Head to Head: 8-0 for Xia.

It is a similar situation for Lin vs WCH. I think it's 5-0 for Lin or something.
WCH is the man and all but I think Lin will overcome him once again.

huangkwokhau
07-14-2007, 01:59 PM
I really hope that Vita/Butet can challenge Zhou Ting Ting/Yang wei in final...hopefully INA takes title...will be great for badminton as CHN has been dominating this department too long ( too many good CHN WD)

Han
07-14-2007, 02:00 PM
Womens Singles
Final between Zhang Ning and XXF. These two individual will play their best everytime they meet. No holds barred even they are friends off court. I'm rooting for Zhang Ning to win.

Mens Doubles Cai/Fu vs Markis Kido - China will win. They have been playing extremely good and well coordinate and it feels that they are in a different league on their own.

Womens Doubles - Zhao TingTing/Yang Wei vs Natsir/Marissa - China to win again here... but the Indos might fight back.

MixD
Gao Ling/Zheng Bo vs Donna/Anthony - With Gao around.. no one can beats her.

The good news is only Women's Singles is All-Chinese affair and here comes the bad news, Chinese most probably will win all the 5 events in the Final.

Han
07-14-2007, 02:04 PM
Someone referred to Xia xuanze vs WCH earlier. It's well known that Xia has always been WCH's "black star". Head to Head: 8-0 for Xia.

It is a similar situation for Lin vs WCH. I think it's 5-0 for Lin or something.
WCH is the man and all but I think Lin will overcome him once again.

Past record really doesn't mean much, Lin Dan is just a better player at this point than Choon Hann so Lin Dan shall win. Let see how veteran Choon Hann handle himself tonight.

huangkwokhau
07-14-2007, 02:09 PM
Past record really doesn't mean much, Lin Dan is just a better player at this point than Choon Hann so Lin Dan shall win. Let see how veteran Choon Hann handle himself tonight.
I agree....if WCH can forse LD in 3 sets is a good achievement...I am afraid that LD will win in 2 sets...hope WCH can give a fight even to lose to LD....;)

huangkwokhau
07-14-2007, 02:10 PM
Past record really doesn't mean much, Lin Dan is just a better player at this point than Choon Hann so Lin Dan shall win. Let see how veteran Choon Hann handle himself tonight.

It had proved that Kellog/Clark beat Nova/butet that they have never beaten them before ( now head to head: 1 ENG: 5 INA)

madbad
07-14-2007, 02:13 PM
Mods, you should merge this into the other (already long) thread

madbad
07-14-2007, 02:39 PM
Could be a few dogs in the final. All we can hope for is some competitive matches even if CHN sweeps. My takes:

Ning Zhang [1] vs Xingfang Xie. LYB should let them play but I can envision this as a practice type match. I'll just say ZN as I have little interest in it.

Dan Lin [1] vs Choong Hann Wong. Give credit where credit is due. Lin Dan, under tremendous pressure with many questioning his form has raised it once again. He's not the most artistic of player to watch but he does what is important...WIN. He outfought an in-form LCW which shows his fighting spirit and mental strength is as tough as ever. WCH's path to the final has been somewhat easier but again, he's shown his own determination to come back after his crippling injury. However, there's too much stacked against him and I hope we can at least see glimpses of the old WCH. LD in straight games.

L. Natsir/V. Marissa vs T.T. Zhao/W. Yang [5]. The way Vita and Butet have been surprising the higher seeds, it'll be no surprise if they knock off another. This will probably be the best game of the evening and if there was one final that CHN could lose, it'd be this one.

H.F. Fu/Y. Cai [1] vs M. Kido/H. Setiawan [2]. How can Markis/Hendra deal with the white hot Fu/Cai? It'll be tough, very tough. Fu/Cai bring a much more rounded game to the court these days. Gone are the mindless and endless smashathons. They play smart, read the opponents well and are deadly quick. Add to the recipe the vaunted smashes and we can crown them champions. The only weakness I can see is their defence against smashes.

L. Gao/B. Zheng [3] vs D. Kellogg/A. Clark [7]. GL will guide her partner through to another win. The surprising (or perhaps not) AC/DK have played with a mission and stood up to all in front of them. Expect a quality match possibly going to 3 games but GL will not allow her team to lose (buck up fat boy the second)

chibe_K
07-14-2007, 07:42 PM
China will sweep ! I have a bottle of champagne ready in the fridge to celebrate when the last event is over.

cooler
07-14-2007, 08:27 PM
Good question. When we talk about psychological aspects of the game like mental stamina I think it's a little too subjective to give a really good account. On one side of the argument, it could be more mentally draining for LD playing LCW under the old scoring system simply because there are more shots and rallies. On the other hand under the new scoring system, the higher intensity that the players play at will come into the equation.

I feel that LCW has always been the dictator of rallies between the two, probably more so with the new scoring system. LD's approach always seems to be to soak up the pressure and counter-attack when he sees the opportunity within the ralies.

I would probably say it's overall more taxing on LD to play LCW under the new scoring system, providing LCW plays his shots well. I really couldn't say if it's mentally more taxing or not, but I feel like if LCW ups the pace then LD will have to expend more mentally and physically in chasing the shuttle in comparison to the old scoring system.if u watched 2006 HK final, lin dan was even faster against lcw. So if lcw upping the pace, LD has the reserve to answer back. Remember, according to some lcw die hard fans, lcw is holding back so that LYB can't see all his potential. LD is holding back too, only 2X more LOL

Han
07-14-2007, 09:44 PM
Appreciate your clear if differing opinion.I did not say LD's mentally weak. Stamina is like a tank of gas. Normally a car's consumption is regular. However if the car were to suddenly have a heavy load, the gas may suddenly be used up quickly leaving little left. TH has that 'heavy load' effect on LD. PG never troubled LD. Don't know about LCW cos they've only met in the finals(?) so there's no match after to analyse...We 'll only know tomorrow.

If car is our analogy then Lin Dan is the big truck or at least a SUV which has bigger gas tank to carry whatever the load. :D Sometime we like the player so much and go all the way out to vote for him and certainly in Choon Hann case. 2 sets or rubber sets, Lin Dan shall win.
I've gone so far to pick Tan/Ong over Fu/Cai yesterday and the games were not even close for simple reason, these players are not in the same level. The same can be said about Choon Hann vs Lin Dan, unfortunately.
Lets hope I am wrong, way wrong!!:(

badMania
07-14-2007, 09:51 PM
MEN'S SINGLES
Lin Dan vs Wong Choong Hann -- Lin Dan beat Lee Chong Wei yet again...and he should reign supreme here.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun vs Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan -- finally, another encounter between these 2 pairs after 7 mths :eek: Kido/Hendra last beat Fu/Cai in the Asian Games Team Event semi-final and they have a pretty even record against them. However, Fu/Cai have certainly improved since then and it will be an uphill task for Kido/Hendra to beat them in front of their home crowd :cool: Of course, I am hoping for an upset.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Zhang Ning vs Xie Xingfang -- yawn...boring match...

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
Lilyana Natsir/Vita Marissa vs Yang Wei/Zhang Tingting -- what an upset for Butet/Vita...with victories over 2 Chinese pairs and Wong/Chin+Ogura/Shiota. They have earned their place here with an upset over a top Chinese pair yesterday....could they repeat the task? The Chinese pair holds an edge as always.

MIXED DOUBLES
Zheng Bo/Gao Ling vs Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg -- Clark/Kellogg have improved so much this year and they have beaten Xie/Zhang as well as Nova/Butet here in Chengdu. Another upset on the card?

taufik-ist
07-14-2007, 10:19 PM
[QUOTE=Han;614870]If car is our analogy then Lin Dan is the big truck or at least a SUV which has bigger gas tank to carry whatever the load. :D Sometime we like the player so much and go all the way out to vote for him and certainly in Choon Hann case. 2 sets or rubber sets, Lin Dan shall win.
I've gone so far to pick Tan/Ong over Fu/Cai yesterday and the games were not even close for simple reason, these players are not in the same level. The same can be said about Choon Hann vs Lin Dan, unfortunately.
Lets hope I am wrong, way wrong!!:([/QUOTE

off topic :D
lin dan = big truck ( alot of gas,mobile)
TH = Tank (lazy,slow,not much gas) :)

Han
07-14-2007, 10:31 PM
[QUOTE=Han;614870]If car is our analogy then Lin Dan is the big truck or at least a SUV which has bigger gas tank to carry whatever the load. :D Sometime we like the player so much and go all the way out to vote for him and certainly in Choon Hann case. 2 sets or rubber sets, Lin Dan shall win.
I've gone so far to pick Tan/Ong over Fu/Cai yesterday and the games were not even close for simple reason, these players are not in the same level. The same can be said about Choon Hann vs Lin Dan, unfortunately.
Lets hope I am wrong, way wrong!!:([/QUOTE

off topic :D
lin dan = big truck ( alot of gas,mobile)
TH = Tank (lazy,slow,not much gas) :)

I would say Taufik is more like a high performance sport car, however, if not maintain/tune up regularly(training, participating more tournaments in badminton terms) then even the Malaysia passenger car Proton can over take him at the finishing line. :D

nwy5633
07-14-2007, 10:42 PM
eventhrough LD get pass LCW..
but i think he juz win it lucky enough...
after the line call in the 2nd set 5-5....
i see tat LCW is like wanna give it up alr....
maybe he think tat he dunwan to get ambush after the match....
hahaha...
today final
LD vs WCH
LD got the skill to win & WCH got the mentality advantage..
LD play in his homecrowd & he can't lost to WCH in SS final in CHina!
jis pressure muz be very very high....
if WCH doesn't giv up easily, the match will go to rubber set i think....
if WCH can force LD to rubber set, i alr feel very happy for him..
anyway i will vote for WCH to win!

madbad
07-14-2007, 10:55 PM
The further WCH can push LD into the match, the more seeds of doubt will be sewn in LD's mind. In terms of physical attributes, LD wins hands down–younger, stronger, fitter, faster. The "old" (must be very careful with this word–some very sensitive BC members on the prowl :D) vet WCH must therefore mess with LD's mind and engage in psychological warfare. He must make it a scrappy match and disrupt LD's rhythm. If he can drag the match into a 3rd game, who knows, the crowd might get a little restless and create extra pressure on LD. One thing we know for sure, neither will give up until the last drop of sweat.

madbad
07-14-2007, 10:56 PM
[QUOTE=taufik-ist;614880]

I would say Taufik is more like a high performance sport car, however, if not maintain/tune up regularly(training, participating more tournaments in badminton terms) then even the Malaysia passenger car Proton can over take him at the finishing line. :D

A better and more accurate analogy :)

samuel882
07-14-2007, 11:04 PM
if u watched 2006 HK final, lin dan was even faster against lcw. So if lcw upping the pace, LD has the reserve to answer back. Remember, according to some lcw die hard fans, lcw is holding back so that LYB can't see all his potential. LD is holding back too, only 2X more LOL

LD 's game in the SF is as bad as LD in the QF.. Plays well belows par of his normal games.. Its a fact and not that he would like to hold back anything.

While LCW clearing displaying different approach in the SF compare with QF.

He simply just gives up the games after the bad line call in the second games.

taufik-ist
07-14-2007, 11:15 PM
good final :)
MD:
seeded #1 vs seeded #2
WS:
seeded #1 vs seeded #2

taufik-ist
07-14-2007, 11:17 PM
when does the final start ?

PlayaFromMalaya
07-14-2007, 11:18 PM
if china dont take all 5 titles today,then it is a FAILURE for them

samuel882
07-14-2007, 11:27 PM
if china dont take all 5 titles today,then it is a FAILURE for them

yeah...Hopes any 1 frm Eng/Ina/MAS can prevent them a clean swipe...
They can win all 5 titles here but hopefully they failed to do it once more in the OG which is more prestigious.

sen
07-14-2007, 11:39 PM
Well, Kidho/Hendra has beaten Cai/Fu twice last year. I think it is a 50-50 chance.

Butet/Vita also can win. Because the 2 top seeded Chinese WD are not in the final. Only the 2 top pairing of Chinese WD are rather unbeatable against any other WD, except other Chinese WD pairing

taufik-ist
07-14-2007, 11:44 PM
guys...

when will the final start ?...........

it is 2.43 pm chengdu time

madbad
07-14-2007, 11:45 PM
guys...

when will the final start ?...........

it is 2.43 pm chengdu time

in 15 mins supposedly

LI De Quan
07-14-2007, 11:50 PM
eventhrough LD get pass LCW..
but i think he juz win it lucky enough...
after the line call in the 2nd set 5-5....
i see tat LCW is like wanna give it up alr....
maybe he think tat he dunwan to get ambush after the match....
hahaha...
today final
LD vs WCH
LD got the skill to win & WCH got the mentality advantage..
LD play in his homecrowd & he can't lost to WCH in SS final in CHina!
jis pressure muz be very very high....
if WCH doesn't giv up easily, the match will go to rubber set i think....
if WCH can force LD to rubber set, i alr feel very happy for him..
anyway i will vote for WCH to win!


但是就在第三局后半段林丹拼尽全力拿分的时候,他因为一个裁判的判罚非常不满,甚至坐在了地上“抗议”,对 此林丹认为那个球确实是有点儿影响自己的情绪:“打球的人对球的判断还是有的,那个球我认为已经出界了,自 己的情绪都已经爆发出来了,忽然被告知是在界内,当然是有点儿不舒服;那个时候正是跳分的时候,自己的情绪 就这么生生地被压下去了,还是需要发泄一下的。”林丹发泄情绪的三部曲是:坐在地上不起来,跟裁判理论,把 落在自己场内的球打得高高的——这样的发泄形式已经很冷静了,因为赛场上毕竟出现了扔拍子、砸 拍子的场面。 (from QQ)

林丹与李宗伟的比赛进行到第三局后半段,当时林丹以18∶13领先,就在此时,他突然将羽毛球高高拍到场地 上空五六米,现场的观众大吃一惊。原来,林丹认为李宗伟回球出界,而裁判却判为界内,场上比分变为18∶1 4。见此情景,林丹上前与裁判交涉,但没有任何效果。于是,就出现了林丹将球高高拍到空中的一幕 。
  赛后接受采访时,林丹表示:“打到半决赛了,对我来说每一分都很重要,我明明看见那个球出界了,但是裁 判却判没出界,我有什么办法,交涉后也没有什么结果,我的情绪自然很激动。”不过冷静下来后,林丹觉得自己 有点“过火”,“在场上做出那样的举动,是有些不妥,但是当时自己的情绪有些难以控制,裁判的判罚让我很难 理解,也很难受,希望大家能理解。”(from SINA)

guy,you are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you understand Chinese,you can read this.
The line judge helped LEE CW , not LD!!!!
+do you know the meaning of this picture????

(Excuse me,kwun)

taufik-ist
07-14-2007, 11:50 PM
in 15 mins supposedly

thanks... i'm 'dying' to wait for it:D

taufik-ist
07-14-2007, 11:52 PM
但是就在第三局后半段林丹拼尽全力拿分的时候,他因为一个裁判的判罚非常不满,甚至坐在了地上“抗议”,对 此林丹认为那个球确实是有点儿影响自己的情绪:“打球的人对球的判断还是有的,那个球我认为已经出界了,自 己的情绪都已经爆发出来了,忽然被告知是在界内,当然是有点儿不舒服;那个时候正是跳分的时候,自己的情绪 就这么生生地被压下去了,还是需要发泄一下的。”林丹发泄情绪的三部曲是:坐在地上不起来,跟裁判理论,把 落在自己场内的球打得高高的——这样的发泄形式已经很冷静了,因为赛场上毕竟出现了扔拍子、砸 拍子的场面。 (from QQ)

林丹与李宗伟的比赛进行到第三局后半段,当时林丹以18∶13领先,就在此时,他突然将羽毛球高高拍到场地 上空五六米,现场的观众大吃一惊。原来,林丹认为李宗伟回球出界,而裁判却判为界内,场上比分变为18∶1 4。见此情景,林丹上前与裁判交涉,但没有任何效果。于是,就出现了林丹将球高高拍到空中的一幕 。
  赛后接受采访时,林丹表示:“打到半决赛了,对我来说每一分都很重要,我明明看见那个球出界了,但是裁 判却判没出界,我有什么办法,交涉后也没有什么结果,我的情绪自然很激动。”不过冷静下来后,林丹觉得自己 有点“过火”,“在场上做出那样的举动,是有些不妥,但是当时自己的情绪有些难以控制,裁判的判罚让我很难 理解,也很难受,希望大家能理解。”(from SINA)

guy,you are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you understand Chinese,you can read this.
The line judge helped LEE CW , not LD!!!!
+do you know the meaning of this picture????

(Excuse me,kwun)

you right.. :D

lcw fans just find an excuse :D...........

FU4EVA
07-14-2007, 11:59 PM
The match for the final day of China Master wiill start in any minute with mixed doubles. ;)

samuel882
07-15-2007, 12:00 AM
This press forum never write anything happened in the 2nd set which LD interfered the Line Judges calls and appeal to the umpire.. They just favour their own players !
Anyway , hopes the final wont have any misjudgment again.

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 12:08 AM
clark...clark.... kellog...kellog

Lx2_Oddkinsonz
07-15-2007, 12:16 AM
everybody keeps complaining abt lin dan's attitude..but he acknowledges that it wasn't the most appropriate way tt he handled the matter..and he didn even smash his rackets like some other players..

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:26 AM
1st game to smiling assassin and chubby partner 21-15. The ENG pair were terrible at receiving serve in the early part of the game before the break, otherwise the game was pretty even.

armortecfans
07-15-2007, 12:29 AM
Hope that the 2nd game will be more interesting. The CHN pair has the edge and they played well. I hope Clark/Kellogg will fight all the way.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:30 AM
Kellogg has to stop giving the Chinese free points on serve!!

IndoAmerican
07-15-2007, 12:31 AM
anyone knows if there is any live streaming video anywhere?

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:32 AM
Look like a similar story in 2nd game, after 5-5, Chinese are pulling away ...

Two thumbs up from Chen Xingdong and his assistant.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:33 AM
Bad line call .... and Clark is not amused!

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:34 AM
ENG have no heart left, 6-11 down toilet break.

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 12:35 AM
clark....... clark kent :)

Wai Shing
07-15-2007, 12:36 AM
kellogs...special K cereal, part of a balanced breakfast.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:37 AM
Or maybe not, ENG control the last few rallies, 10-12 down.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 12:38 AM
kellog is the weakest link....CHN always aims at Kellog

armortecfans
07-15-2007, 12:39 AM
CHN is leading 14-12 now, they are getting closer to the title.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:39 AM
Clark finishes a fine rally, 13-14.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:40 AM
Xie Zhongbo contemplates on what might have been .....

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 12:40 AM
good placing by Clark...13-14..come on ENG

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:41 AM
Donna took too much Kelloggs, pushes out.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:41 AM
Clark can be really fast, 14-16.

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 12:41 AM
Xie Zhongbo contemplates on what might have been .....

he can contemplate on being the king of semi and quarter finalists this year... :p

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:41 AM
The draft is affecting Chinese baseline returns.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:42 AM
Zheng Bo sends Clark sprawling ....

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:43 AM
Donna forced to sit on court, 19-16 CHN.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:44 AM
Clark misses simple return, 3 match points for CHN.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:45 AM
Game over, 21-16, 21-17 and it all boils down to ENG loss of concentration just before the cereal break.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 12:46 AM
1st title of XD goes to CHN......

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 12:47 AM
now..

markis/hendra vs "tornado" :)

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 12:53 AM
I need INA MD not to give an easy macth to CHN...at least with fight....

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 12:55 AM
keep shuttle low to cai/fu

Han
07-15-2007, 12:56 AM
Game over, 21-16, 21-17 and it all boils down to ENG loss of concentration just before the cereal break.

The UK pair also doens't have enough weapon, the whole match was control by the Chinese. Zheng Bo may not have those fancy shots but he's really commited in smashing which is lack by many of the top pairs in the world. Zheng Bo most probably is the most under-rated and under-appreciated player among the top pairs.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:57 AM
Pretty good early exchanges from INA, CHN pair a bit out of sorts ...

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 12:58 AM
I am not surprised.

Vita better than Jo & Polly.

I am still surprised INA actually have a representative in the WD finals...

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 12:58 AM
5-4 for INA.....

abedeng
07-15-2007, 12:59 AM
Brilliant INA attack leaves CHN stranded, 8-6.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 12:59 AM
too bad INA could not cross over the net....6-5

V3i HoN6
07-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Bad line call .... and Clark is not amused!
You should see how Nathan Robertson was frustrated yesterday over the same chinese pair.
Line calls and a "over waist" foul.

但是就在第三局后半段林丹拼尽全力拿分的时候,他因为一个裁判的判罚非常不满,甚至坐在了地上“抗议”,对 此林丹认为那个球确实是有点儿影响自己的情绪:“打球的人对球的判断还是有的,那个球我认为已经出界了,自 己的情绪都已经爆发出来了,忽然被告知是在界内,当然是有点儿不舒服;那个时候正是跳分的时候,自己的情绪 就这么生生地被压下去了,还是需要发泄一下的。”林丹发泄情绪的三部曲是:坐在地上不起来,跟裁判理论,把 落在自己场内的球打得高高的——这样的发泄形式已经很冷静了,因为赛场上毕竟出现了扔拍子、砸 拍子的场面。 (from QQ)

林丹与李宗伟的比赛进行到第三局后半段,当时林丹以18∶13领先,就在此时,他突然将羽毛球高高拍到场地 上空五六米,现场的观众大吃一惊。原来,林丹认为李宗伟回球出界,而裁判却判为界内,场上比分变为18∶1 4。见此情景,林丹上前与裁判交涉,但没有任何效果。于是,就出现了林丹将球高高拍到空中的一幕 。
  赛后接受采访时,林丹表示:“打到半决赛了,对我来说每一分都很重要,我明明看见那个球出界了,但是裁 判却判没出界,我有什么办法,交涉后也没有什么结果,我的情绪自然很激动。”不过冷静下来后,林丹觉得自己 有点“过火”,“在场上做出那样的举动,是有些不妥,但是当时自己的情绪有些难以控制,裁判的判罚让我很难 理解,也很难受,希望大家能理解。”(from SINA)

guy,you are wrong!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If you understand Chinese,you can read this.
The line judge helped LEE CW , not LD!!!!
+do you know the meaning of this picture????

(Excuse me,kwun)

Since when that a supposedly "In" ball being insisted "In" is considered helping LCW, just because LD saying it is "Out"?
And obviously the news omitted the part that a LCW In calls by the line judge change abruptly after LD and LYB complaint. I meant it is immediately changed, not even sometimes of considering or asking from more sources.

And since when that a locally chinese news was suppose to be the ultimate credible final fact on the matters? I'm not saying that it is definitely some siding by the line judge and umpire, I really dont know. But Im saying that your method of telling people off by a single source that could be "bias" and making unrelated assumption is just naive and misleading. You assumed that it is already "out" therefore a supposedly "In" calls being insisted "In" will be viewed helping LCW.


And I dont even want to start on the part LD thowring tantrums on a world class competition semifinal games as a professional player. He did not smash his racket, so he is alright okay?

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Again, INA has to be aware of the backcourt draft ....

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:00 AM
Yes...keep smashing..7-6 INA

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:01 AM
shuttle is too long from INA 8-7 INA...9-7 now

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:01 AM
INA gain 2 pt advantage after Setiawan attacks Cai Yun's serve. 11-9 consultation meeting .....

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 01:02 AM
Ina win half set :)

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:02 AM
Brilliant defence by Fu sets up CHN's equalizer, 11-11.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:03 AM
11-9 for INA...too bad INA smashed too long...otherwise 11-8...

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:04 AM
Body attacks by INA paying dividents, 13-13.

xiao_le
07-15-2007, 01:05 AM
1st half many ina shuttle go to outline...

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:05 AM
CHN step up the pace, 15-13.

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 01:05 AM
fu looking the strongest of the chinese pair

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:06 AM
INA makes a couple of easy mistakes, CHN lead 18-14.

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 01:06 AM
I am agree with u. Hope this is right.

I saw the china TV LYB said very arrogant. IF Man single champion from Malaysia and maybe MD or WD or both champion from INA. So LYB can't do that again. This China head coach very proud and arrogant.



Men Single

Lin Dan Vs Wong Choon Hann

Women Single

Zhang Ning Vs Xie Xing Fang

Men Double

Fu Hai Feng - Cai Yun Vs Markis Kido - Hendra Setiawan

Women Double

Yang Wei - Zhao Ting Ting Vs Vita Marissa - Lilyana Natsir

Mixed Double

Zheng Bo - Gao Ling Vs Anthony Clark - Donna Kellogg

All The Name in Bold will win!! all the best !! cause tomorrow is the last day of china Master dy

volcom
07-15-2007, 01:08 AM
China looking unstoppable here :)

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:08 AM
fu looking the strongest of the chinese pair

Agree, his excellent defence won CHN at least 2 pts from impossible positions. CHN take 1st game 21-15 after INA lost concentration.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:08 AM
too many unforce errors from INA....caught on nets....gotta play better in 2nd set

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:09 AM
LYB giving personal instructions to CY, obviously he knows CY is not playing as well as he should.

FU4EVA
07-15-2007, 01:10 AM
Fu/Cai won the 1st set 21-15

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:10 AM
CY is a bit off colour, INA get 3 pts from him.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:11 AM
Hendra misses easy putaway, CHN come back 2-3.

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:11 AM
Fuhaifeng Caiyun Jiayou!!!

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:12 AM
whatever Chan Hing Dong told Fu/Cai during the 11pt interval must have worked wonders. the game tipped 180 degrees after that.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:13 AM
Yeah, Cai Yun's defence is not working ....

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:13 AM
Questionable line call, CHN creep back into the game.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:14 AM
Rare error from Fu at the net, 7-5 INA lead.

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:14 AM
Fu/Cai really changed their game in the past year. now they are matching the Indonesians at net and fast push.

they still look like mad cows dashing left and right while the Indonesians are calm and agile, but at least Fu/Cai are winning rallies.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:14 AM
Make that 2 in a row, 8-5 INA.

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 01:14 AM
wow....that was the worst of the bad line calls...

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:15 AM
Fu still sucks at the net, Cai is way better.

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 01:15 AM
I think INA MD difficult to win because they are coach change already. Now they coach under Sigit Pamungkas.

Only they are old coach can bring them to be the champion. They are coach is Hery IP. Chandra, Sigit, Tony, Rexy, Ricky s coach by Hendry IP.

INA makes a couple of easy mistakes, CHN lead 18-14.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:16 AM
Kido/Setiawan open a gap by putting pressure on CY, 9-6.

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 01:16 AM
as usual ina lead first in half set

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:17 AM
INA get 2 pt lead after CHN return goes out.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:18 AM
again INA leads 11-9 in 2nd interval..pls retain the lead......

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:18 AM
Again, CHN coaches concentrate on Cai Yun at the break .....

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:19 AM
go go lin dan, kido/hendra, n lilyana/vita ......

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:19 AM
Fu/Cai really changed their game in the past year. now they are matching the Indonesians at net and fast push.

they still look like mad cows dashing left and right while the Indonesians are calm and agile, but at least Fu/Cai are winning rallies.

really fast mad cows =):D

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:19 AM
Cai Yun sends shuttle to Setiawan's face.

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:20 AM
cmon kido/hendra .... make it 15/21, 22/20, 22/20 .....

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:20 AM
Receiver fault, CHN retake lead 13-12.

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:21 AM
china 3 indonesia 2

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:21 AM
now CHN leads 14-12...come on INA......

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:21 AM
Kido unleashes his anger, 13-14.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:22 AM
Now it's a service fault, CHN gain 15-13 lead. What is happening?

phaarix
07-15-2007, 01:22 AM
Hmm once again China take lead after break. Fu/Cai reeeally impressive lately! Don't see them losing this one.

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:22 AM
or china 2 indonesia 2 malaysia 1 ????

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:23 AM
hmmmchina can clean sweep all the titles .... ????

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:24 AM
INA's spirits are broken, 14-18 down.

sumbadder
07-15-2007, 01:24 AM
hmmmchina can clean sweep all the titles .... ????
with all the totally awesome faults they're calling it's very possible they could...

sarcasm

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:25 AM
lost already ....

FU4EVA
07-15-2007, 01:25 AM
Match point for Fu/Cai

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:25 AM
18-14 to CY/FHF... the game is probably in the bag for china already.

abedeng
07-15-2007, 01:26 AM
Service fault, receiver fault, questionable line call, all going CHN way, Cai/Fu didn't need to play at their best to win this.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:26 AM
too bad INA lost...congratulations to FCF/CY...

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:26 AM
now lin dan vs wong ch

cooler
07-15-2007, 01:27 AM
setiwan is SO generous:D
kido played well. The weak link was setiwan

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:27 AM
INA got a few service faults.....otherwise the game could be tight

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:28 AM
man, the two call against kido/setiawan, one receiver fault and one service over waist call must have affected the concentration of the indonesians.

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:28 AM
Service fault, receiver fault, questionable line call, all going CHN way, Cai/Fu didn't need to play at their best to win this.

well i suppose players need to be more careful since they're playing chinese in china...

they'll find fault at every opportunity.

FU4EVA
07-15-2007, 01:29 AM
Fu/Cai won 21-15 21-16.2nd title for China today

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:29 AM
kido doesn't look happy AT ALL on the podium

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:30 AM
that's a really big cup for runner-up. :D

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:30 AM
i think lin dan will win straight set

madbad
07-15-2007, 01:32 AM
The big match now. Will LD demolish WCH or will WCH find a way to diffuse LD's style of play?

Wai Shing
07-15-2007, 01:32 AM
Those pandas are quite cute, not sure if its the most fitting prize these guys wanna receive but they can throw it to some fans in the stands anyway

narnia
07-15-2007, 01:32 AM
Umpires, Linemen are all chineses..

How can china do that in BWF SS???

alfa-2
07-15-2007, 01:32 AM
here comes our old school hero...........

V3i HoN6
07-15-2007, 01:34 AM
well i suppose players need to be more careful since they're playing chinese in china...

they'll find fault at every opportunity.
I think nonetheless it is a fault.
Just that it can only spotted on non chinese player.

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:34 AM
here comes our old school hero...........

good old WCH, still using a cab21 it seems.

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:35 AM
i like the pandas. anyway, i think WCH won't be able to win lin dan, although his form is his best since injury.

narnia
07-15-2007, 01:36 AM
I think nonetheless it is a fault.
Just that it can only spotted on non chinese player.

Cai's services are often high enough to be called fault...
None for the chineses: no service/receiver faults, no denial of shuttle change

madbad
07-15-2007, 01:36 AM
Early on 4-3 to LD

alfa-2
07-15-2007, 01:37 AM
come on break his leg............kekeke..........

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:37 AM
I think nonetheless it is a fault.
Just that it can only spotted on non chinese player.

true. just that the chinese will be more willing to point the fault out. u know im chinese myself. haha.

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:37 AM
nice trick shot by WCH. LD totally went the wrong way!

Wai Shing
07-15-2007, 01:38 AM
WCH's first finals appearance since WC03?

carine
07-15-2007, 01:38 AM
5 all nw........

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:38 AM
come on WCH...make history.....

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:39 AM
not bad for wong ch ....

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:39 AM
WCH is holding up pretty well so far. LD isn't at full speed yet though. WCH seems to be quite comfortable so far but will he be able to handle a much younger and faster LD??

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:39 AM
i believe lin dan is overpowering WCH with his speed....

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:39 AM
malaysia so lucky have ong ewe hock, wong ch n lee chong wei in ms

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:40 AM
come on WCH...make history.....

history tells that WCH has once taken the China Open crown before. i think maybe 2003 or 2004? been a while

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:40 AM
Those pandas are quite cute, not sure if its the most fitting prize these guys wanna receive but they can throw it to some fans in the stands anyway

Kind weird that Men receive panda toys....:D:D...may be car toys or Transformers...;)

carine
07-15-2007, 01:40 AM
8 all nw....................

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:40 AM
maybe lindan too underestimate wong ch

Wai Shing
07-15-2007, 01:40 AM
LOL at Bao's pose...like he knew they were coming for him

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:41 AM
7-7. no clear advantage at this point of the game

Inky2000
07-15-2007, 01:41 AM
history tells that WCH has once taken the China Open crown before. i think maybe 2003 or 2004? been a while

I suppose the so-called "history" is that WCH beats LD for the first time in their 7 encounters.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:42 AM
INA MD still has bright future..they are still young...CHN( FHF/CY) is aging....next time kido/setiawan

Felicia_txh
07-15-2007, 01:42 AM
10-10 now..good fight fr WCH..

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:43 AM
WCH's technique has changed a bit. no longer the dashing mad cow that he was back in 2003. but then his offense is also not as fast as then.

his control touch shots much better.

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:43 AM
if i m not wrong wch only win 1 - 2 big tournament titles .... can't beat taufik, peter gade, chen hong, xia xz, hendrawan

Wai Shing
07-15-2007, 01:43 AM
history tells that WCH has once taken the China Open crown before. i think maybe 2003 or 2004? been a while

He won it in 2002.
In 2003, he made it yet again in the finals but lost against a young upcoming player..........you guessed it, Lin Dan.

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:44 AM
WCH seems to be very stable. i wonder will he in 2nd set? LD is bound to speed up.

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:44 AM
I suppose the so-called "history" is that WCH beats LD for the first time in their 7 encounters.

oh that history. but i think WCH cannot eliminate the other history, and that's he has never beaten XXZ after like what, 10 encounters... that will certain go down in history against him.

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:44 AM
I think the commentators praise WCH's ability to speak Pu tong hua....

TKG2609
07-15-2007, 01:44 AM
if lindan win this set, too difficult for ch 2 win this time

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:45 AM
WCH seems to be very stable. i wonder will he in 2nd set? LD is bound to speed up.

no need to rush for LD. he is younger and probably can let WCH waste all his energy for now.

V3i HoN6
07-15-2007, 01:46 AM
Who is the coach of WCH?

carine
07-15-2007, 01:46 AM
14 all nw...nt bad wch...jia you wch

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 01:46 AM
INA MD still has bright future..they are still young...CHN( FHF/CY) is aging....next time kido/setiawan

not for FHF, he's still young enough, 24 yo.
cai yun is 28 yo

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:47 AM
no need to rush for LD. he is younger and probably can let WCH waste all his energy for now.

true. but i sense alot of tension. both players trying to play a careful game here.

carine
07-15-2007, 01:47 AM
wch leading 16-15

carine
07-15-2007, 01:48 AM
16 all now...jia you wch

carine
07-15-2007, 01:49 AM
wch gogogo bt LD...

madbad
07-15-2007, 01:51 AM
LD sped things up a bit but WCH has saved a couple of game points 19-20

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:51 AM
game point for LD first set...

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 01:51 AM
cmoooooooooooooon wch, makei it even 19:20

Felicia_txh
07-15-2007, 01:51 AM
LD won the 1st set!!21-19..WCH is getting tired!!

shyeling
07-15-2007, 01:51 AM
I think the commentators praise WCH's ability to speak Pu tong hua....

this is nothing for m'sian chinese la...:D

madbad
07-15-2007, 01:52 AM
LD does eventually close it out 21-19. Close but no cigar for the now smooth moving mad cow WCH :D

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:53 AM
good fighting spirit from WCH....I think WCH should have won 1st set

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:53 AM
lols but still... i think mainland chinese are always pleasantly surprised by this.

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:53 AM
oh!!!!! i was about to start cheering for WCH and then he lost the first game. i thought he could've pull it at least 20 all.

shyeling
07-15-2007, 01:53 AM
not for FHF, he's still young enough, 24 yo.
cai yun is 28 yo

FHF is 23 only la..he was born in 1984..
while CY was born in 1980..

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:54 AM
this is nothing for m'sian chinese la...:D

I know..I think he speaks very articulate Mandarin...:D:D

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:54 AM
good fighting spirit from WCH....I think WCH should have won 1st set

win with points... not with spirit... lols.
anyway LD has a good fighting spirit too!

badminto_expert
07-15-2007, 01:55 AM
If China can win all (5).. So LYB will proud and arrogant again.

WCH difficult now to beat LD. Hope from INA WD Peer can win.

LD does eventually close it out 21-19. Close but no cigar for the now smooth moving mad cow WCH :D

Felicia_txh
07-15-2007, 01:55 AM
this is nothing for m'sian chinese la...:D
But some m'sian chinese can't speak chinese at all..:p

alfa-2
07-15-2007, 01:56 AM
another learning lesson???

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:56 AM
LD's defense is very good tonight....I think LD will win in 2 sets...come on WCH...!!

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:56 AM
But some m'sian chinese can't speak chinese at all..:p
Like Michelle Yeoh cant speak mandarin, only cantonese

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:56 AM
WCH is now on the windward side...

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 01:57 AM
LD is taking off 8:0

Felicia_txh
07-15-2007, 01:57 AM
LD is leading far far away fr WCH 8-2..

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:57 AM
WCH down 0-7...

kwun
07-15-2007, 01:57 AM
If China can win all (5).. So LYB will proud and arrogant again.


again? when did he stop? ;)

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 01:57 AM
WCH's control of shuttle is not good at the moment

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 01:57 AM
make that 0-8... go LD!!

Wong8Egg
07-15-2007, 01:58 AM
LD is speeding up now. 7-0 ...

xiao_le
07-15-2007, 01:58 AM
WCH lose logologo...now LD 11-3 WCH

cooler
07-15-2007, 02:00 AM
wch coulda won the second game too lol

V3i HoN6
07-15-2007, 02:00 AM
Like Michelle Yeoh cant speak mandarin, only cantonese
She was english educated, and born in cantonese speaking district, Ipoh.

kwun
07-15-2007, 02:00 AM
WCH's control of shuttle is not good at the moment

WCH was playing against the draft of the stadium on first set. it is easier to control in that condition.

now he is on the windward side, more difficult to control.

taufik-ist
07-15-2007, 02:00 AM
Vita/Lilyana will be 'a martir' to prevent china do a clean sweep :)

huangkwokhau
07-15-2007, 02:00 AM
even 4 titles are enough for LYB to prove his success...so noone can argue with him....then he cna make any decisions he want...including of dropping certain players...his goal is winning for China...like or hate him....LYB will be with us for a long time....

Wong8Egg
07-15-2007, 02:00 AM
I guess LD is just too much for the ageing WCH.

kwun
07-15-2007, 02:01 AM
it will be mighty difficult for WCH to come back at this point.

against me, maybe, but not against LD.

well, against me, he wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place..

liangyuanruo
07-15-2007, 02:02 AM
it will be mighty difficult for WCH to come back at this point.

against me, maybe, but not against LD.

well, against me, he wouldn't have gotten into this mess in the first place..

lols kwun we'll apply on your behalf to WC 2007 =)