Taufik Hidayat lost to Tien Minh Nguyen!! 18-21 13-21 :crying:

biggest upset of the tournament.. =(

any comments?

i just wonder that when i saw the result just now....
a big big suprise to me how does he lose to the vietnam player...
anyone from the scene can tell us what is the story....!?

looks to the points....
i think is a easy match to Tien...

ack! tooo bad i was hoping to see taufik in the semis/finals when i go and watch it live...

i wasnt there when it happened so i guess he was playing an "attitude taufik style" just like in Japan Open last year where he lost to Lin Dan 21-3 =(

come on Tien is a good player, just commits too many mistakes somtimes, but all credit goes to him

Taufik Hidayat lost to Tien Minh Nguyen!! 18-21 13-21 :crying:

biggest upset of the tournament.. =(

any comments?

Good job, Tien Minh.
I wish you can do it again and again:D

Good job, Tien Minh.
I wish you can do it again and again:D
Haha....This is so funny. :D:D:D

Nguyen Tien Minh is one of those who can upset the top players and I think it is not that surprising.
Remember he already did it at the asian games where he had a good time especially beating Lee Hyun Il

Taufik Hidayat lost to Tien Minh Nguyen!! 18-21 13-21 :crying:
biggest upset of the tournament.. =(
any comments?
Taufik: "Ngak apa-apa sih! Ini kurang penting kalao dibanding sama WC!":D:D:D

Taufik Hidayat lost to Tien Minh Nguyen!! 18-21 13-21 :crying:

biggest upset of the tournament.. =(

any comments?
Are you sur that Taufik lost to a unknow it's must be kidding

Tien Minh Nguyen won the game straight set. OMG! This is amazing. He's going to play against Chen Hong tomorrow in the Quarter finals. Can't wait to see the result.

From unconfirmed sources, TH got phone call about his pregnant wife and wanted to go home...my be thats explained as Fastdrop informed me that TH did not look good and had bad attitude in the court....so whatever reasons, we have to give Minh Nguyen a credit to beat TH.....

Tien Minh Nguyen won the game straight set. OMG! This is amazing. He's going to play against Chen Hong tomorrow in the Quarter finals. Can't wait to see the result.

today's MS results:

Round 3 Quarterfinals Hong Chen [1] 21-14 21-18 Hong Chen [1] 21-17 21-11Kwong Beng Chan 15-21 21-12 21-18 Tien Minh Nguyen 21-18 21-13 Tien Minh Nguyen 21-16 21-18Cheol Ho Lee 21-14 25-27 21-13 Kenneth Jonassen [4] 21-11 21-14 Kenneth Jonassen [4] 21-8 21-13Wei Ng [16] 21-12 21-13 Stanislav Pukhov 13-21 23-21 21-13 Sung Hwan Park [9] 21-17 21-15Sung Hwan Park [9] 23-21 21-14 Tsuen Seng Lee [13] 13-21 21-19 21-9 Sony Dwi Kuncoro [6] 22-20 21-15Sony Dwi Kuncoro [6] 21-10 21-14 Ronald Susilo [10] 21-7 21-17 Ronald Susilo [10] 21-14 21-8Chunlai Bao [3] 21-19 21-14 Weijie Gong 21-17 21-14 Weijie Gong 21-14 23-21Shoji Sato [7] 21-19 21-23 22-20 Andrew Smith [11] 22-24 21-19 21-13 Chong Wei Lee [2] 21-12 21-16Chong Wei Lee [2] 13-21 21-15 21-16

today's MS results:

Round 3 Quarterfinals Hong Chen [1] 21-14 21-18 Hong Chen [1] 21-17 21-11Kwong Beng Chan 15-21 21-12 21-18 Tien Minh Nguyen 21-18 21-13 Tien Minh Nguyen21-16 21-18Cheol Ho Lee 21-14 25-27 21-13 Kenneth Jonassen [4] 21-11 21-14 Kenneth Jonassen [4] 21-8 21-13Wei Ng [16] 21-12 21-13 Stanislav Pukhov 13-21 23-21 21-13 Sung Hwan Park [9] 21-17 21-15Sung Hwan Park [9] 23-21 21-14 Tsuen Seng Lee [13] 13-21 21-19 21-9 Sony Dwi Kuncoro [6] 22-20 21-15Sony Dwi Kuncoro [6] 21-10 21-14 Ronald Susilo [10] 21-7 21-17 Ronald Susilo [10] 21-14 21-8Chunlai Bao [3] 21-19 21-14 Weijie Gong 21-17 21-14 Weijie Gong 21-14 23-21Shoji Sato [7] 21-19 21-23 22-20 Andrew Smith [11] 22-24 21-19 21-13 Chong Wei Lee [2] 21-12 21-16Chong Wei Lee [2] 13-21 21-15 21-16

You put this result at wrong thread.

Also today is round 16, tomorrow is quaterfinal.....;)

I was shock as well to see Taufik lost! Congrats to Tien Minh Nguyen.

Does Taufik not feel the urge to play and win anymore, since he's won basically every tournament there is now he's a family guy, he doesn't have the desire to win as much as before?

You put this result at wrong thread.

Also today is round 16, tomorrow is quaterfinal.....;)

yup. i should have wrote "the road to the quarterfinals". :rolleyes:

Nguyen Tien Minh is the best player in Viet nam, may be in that game, Tien Minh knew who is he and played no pressure and taufik might look down his competitor.
go on Tien Minh!

I was shock as well to see Taufik lost! Congrats to Tien Minh Nguyen.

Does Taufik not feel the urge to play and win anymore, since he's won basically every tournament there is now he's a family guy, he doesn't have the desire to win as much as before?

you observe it right. TH does not have enough emotional challenge to win. the motivation is not as much. the 2008 olympics is what keeps him going now, then, he will call it quits.:(

Nguyen Tien Minh is the best player in Viet nam, may be in that game, Tien Minh knew who is he and played no pressure and taufik might look down his competitor.
go on Tien Minh!

thanks for the player info but can you post some pics of Tien?

From unconfirmed sources, TH got phone call about his pregnant wife and wanted to go home...my be thats explained as Fastdrop informed me that TH did not look good and had bad attitude in the court....so whatever reasons, we have to give Minh Nguyen a credit to beat TH.....


Your unconfirm sources may not be the cause for Taufik's lost.

Your unconfirm sources may not be the cause for Taufik's lost.

this is getting more and more interesting. does that mean there are some other causes for his defeat?

Your unconfirm sources may not be the cause for Taufik's lost.
Thats what I had been told..again..lost is lost in my book...:D

Your unconfirm sources may not be the cause for Taufik's lost.
ANTS...since you are there.....could you find out the real story if any??:D

Taufik clearly is not playing his best badminton in Philippines. He is probably trying to use this loss to confuse his "real" opposition ahead of the World Championships in Kuala Lumpur; he wants them to underestimate him!

Taufik clearly is not playing his best badminton in Philippines. He is probably trying to use this loss to confuse his "real" opposition ahead of the World Championships in Kuala Lumpur; he wants them to underestimate him!
I do not think he cares about WC as he mentioned that he got it already...he even thinks not to participate if his baby is due...simply he did not play his best ...

Taufik clearly is not playing his best badminton in Philippines. He is probably trying to use this loss to confuse his "real" opposition ahead of the World Championships in Kuala Lumpur; he wants them to underestimate him!

Is anyone dumb enough to underestimate an Olympic and former world champion??? Whom is only 26 years old??????:confused::confused::confused:

Even during Thomas cup 06 when Taufik was said to be suffering from back injury, Lin Dan was playing very cautiously against him in the first game, then once Lin Dan was sure Taufik was not close to 100%, it was doom for Taufik in the second game.

taufik isnt playing his best i think.. however, so far PO has sprung alot of surprises... :D

It does not matter whats the actual cause. Perhaps he is just not interested in PO as well as most of the top players here... after all he is not the only 1 get beaten by lower rank player right?

It does not matter whats the actual cause. Perhaps he is just not interested in PO as well as most of the top players here... after all he is not the only 1 get beaten by lower rank player right?if TH isnt interrest in PO, he shouldnt go and waste pbsi money. It would be better to let a younger INA player to get some tournament experience instead. Of course, reasons for TH lost are bountiful as hot air in global warming.

btw, how come TH went to play PO? I thot this guy only goes to big stars tournaments.

even though he lost in the morning sessions, taufik went back to the arena in the evening to mingle with the fans and to watch the luluk/alvent match. he was very generous in taking pictures with a lot of people. he was even talking to a lot of fans. he was all smiles while interacting with his fans.

today's MS results:

Round 3 Quarterfinals Hong Chen [1] 21-14 21-18 Hong Chen [1] 21-17 21-11Kwong Beng Chan 15-21 21-12 21-18 Tien Minh Nguyen 21-18 21-13 Tien Minh Nguyen 21-16 21-18Cheol Ho Lee 21-14 25-27 21-13 Kenneth Jonassen [4] 21-11 21-14 Kenneth Jonassen [4] 21-8 21-13Wei Ng [16] 21-12 21-13 Stanislav Pukhov 13-21 23-21 21-13 Sung Hwan Park [9] 21-17 21-15Sung Hwan Park [9] 23-21 21-14 Tsuen Seng Lee [13] 13-21 21-19 21-9 Sony Dwi Kuncoro [6] 22-20 21-15Sony Dwi Kuncoro [6] 21-10 21-14 Ronald Susilo [10] 21-7 21-17 Ronald Susilo [10] 21-14 21-8Chunlai Bao [3] 21-19 21-14 Weijie Gong 21-17 21-14 Weijie Gong 21-14 23-21Shoji Sato [7] 21-19 21-23 22-20 Andrew Smith [11] 22-24 21-19 21-13 Chong Wei Lee [2] 21-12 21-16Chong Wei Lee [2] 13-21 21-15 21-16

What the hell is this??:confused::confused::confused::confused::con fused:

even though he lost in the morning sessions, taufik went back to the arena in the evening to mingle with the fans and to watch the luluk/alvent match. he was very generous in taking pictures with a lot of people. he was even talking to a lot of fans. he was all smiles while interacting with his fans.

That's very nice to hear about TH. I've been dreaming to take a photo with him but no luck so far :crying: As a matter of fact, I think he looks gorgeous and so is LD and BCL. :p

Tien Minh played well. He manage to retrieve every shuttles that Taufik sends over. I do agree with you guys to a certain extend that Taufik was not playing his best. He simply gave up in the 2nd round. I can't post the reasons behind it, i can tell u if u ask me but not on the threads.

this is getting more and more interesting. does that mean there are some other causes for his defeat?

On the contrary, the same story is getting so tire to hear! If Taufik win then he's the most talented else he's not ready to play with all sort of excuses. Please, the talented Taufik is just not consistent enough as compare to World #1 Lin Dan.

Tien Minh played well. He manage to retrieve every shuttles that Taufik sends over. I do agree with you guys to a certain extend that Taufik was not playing his best. He simply gave up in the 2nd round. I can't post the reasons behind it, i can tell u if u ask me but not on the threads.

Probably dispute over line-calls?

Anyway, Han is right. Everyone has to own up to his/her own results and STOP GIVING excuses, may it be Taufik Hidayat, Lin Dan, Peter Gade, Lee Chong Wei, or other players. If you win then that means you have done well otherwise the other player simply played better. I'm glad people didn't start a thread for Peter Gade when he was destroyed by Taufik Hidayat at last week's tournament, the China Masters.

Nevertheless, I hope Taufik Hidayat, Peter Gade, & Bao Chunlai all recover so that they can perform their best for an exciting the World Championships this year. I would like Peter Gade to win this title and the 2008 Bejing Olympics.

Another player I would like to see doing well in the upcoming tournaments is Chen Hong. This way he can prove to Li Yongbo that it is a mistake to neglect him in big tournaments such as Thomas Cup & Surdiman Cup.

Tien Minh played well. He manage to retrieve every shuttles that Taufik sends over. I do agree with you guys to a certain extend that Taufik was not playing his best. He simply gave up in the 2nd round. I can't post the reasons behind it, i can tell u if u ask me but not on the threads.

i'm intrigued... :)

my semis ticket is useless...

Source: badzine.info

Taufik Hidayat bowed out and shocked the crowd as he lost to Nguyen Tien Minh of Vietnam in 2 sets 21-18 / 21-12 in the second round. “I was surprised that I won the match. In a way I felt that Taufik was not playing his best”, said Tien Minh.

“I found it hard to control the shuttle, it was too slow. I was frustrated that it went this way. However Tien Minh played well and he deserved to win”, said Taufik Hidayat.

Lee Chong Wei had an easy match by beating Andrew Smith from England 21-12/21-16. "Today the shuttlecock seemed to be faster and I had a better feel of it compared to the first few matches I played where the shuttles seemed to be slower. I was struggling a little and finding problem adjusting to the speed of the shuttle when I was playing against Tommy Sugiarto from Indonesia earlier. I will play my best and hope to win this tournament" said Chong Wei.

Malaysia BOLEH...!!!

I just returned from Tegal where they held a Veteran's championship. Taufik's old teacher and mentor, Iie Sumirat the legend himself, played... ;) He had many deceptive shots and a fabulous net-game... Taufik learned a lot from this guy...

I also had the chance to talk to him. Amazingly humble and a happy happy relaxed guy... :p :D

I just returned from Tegal where they held a Veteran's championship. Taufik's old teacher and mentor, Iie Sumirat the legend himself, played... ;) He had many deceptive shots and a fabulous net-game... Taufik learned a lot from this guy...

I also had the chance to talk to him. Amazingly humble and a happy happy relaxed guy... :p :D
No wonder....you are OFF from radar.....:D:D who won the matches? sarwendah? Rosiana tendean??Ratih Komala Dewi?

so LCW just justified TH's excuse for losing?.. the shuttle was slow the other day when taufik lost, the following day it was fast, as CW said...

tha's what's friends are for... :)

Bravo TienMinh, Tien Minh is N1 player in vietnam, comeon TienMinh

Good play Tien Minh,.,. :)

I think Taufik always has trouble with small and agile opponents when he is not trying to play his best -- which he usually is in earlier rounds. It seems he never really prepares for early round opponents, and just tries to find out a winning strategy during the match. And when the opponent is very agile and can return all his shots no matter how good the placements are, he is in trouble.

Remember how Taufik in 05 almost lost to Boonsak?

Tien Minh played well. He manage to retrieve every shuttles that Taufik sends over. I do agree with you guys to a certain extend that Taufik was not playing his best. He simply gave up in the 2nd round. I can't post the reasons behind it, i can tell u if u ask me but not on the threads.

No wonder....you are OFF from radar.....:D:D who won the matches? sarwendah? Rosiana tendean??Ratih Komala Dewi?

No Sarwendah, no Rosi, no Ratih... Too few participants in the Veteran WD... :p They organizers decided not to play that category.

Bobby Ertanto-Heryanto were seeded 1st, Iie Sumirat-[Major General] Sabar Yudo was seeded 2nd. I also saw Hermawan Susanto, Hastomo Arbi, Eddy Hartono, Eddy Kurniawan competing... ;) :D I heard they want to play in KL for the Senior's World Championship soon... Want to beat old opponents...

One day, Taufik, Sony, Simon, and Andre will play in these tournaments... :D Ha ha ha...

Good to see the veterans still active, had a lot of respect for their talents ....

Anyway, when it comes to players like Tien Minh, Boonsak, Tago, Wacha even, I think that had they been playing in countries that take badminton really seriously, they would be even better players than they are now. Who knows, Tien Minh could have been another Taufik/LCW had he been born Indonesian or Malaysian.

Definitely talent and great coaching is already there, but without top quality sparring, it's really hard to develop your game to the fullest. Probably the reason why CHN can maintain it's consistency in almost all disciplines.

[quote=jimbo;618752]Source: badzine.info

Taufik Hidayat bowed out and shocked the crowd as he lost to Nguyen Tien Minh of Vietnam in 2 sets 21-18 / 21-12 in the second round. “I was surprised that I won the match. In a way I felt that Taufik was not playing his best”, said Tien Minh.

“I found it hard to control the shuttle, it was too slow. I was frustrated that it went this way. However Tien Minh played well and he deserved to win”, said Taufik Hidayat.

When Taufik played against Tien, he had a lot of baseline shots that went "long". I give due credit to Tien for his tenacity and very good conditioning against the very unpredictable shots of TH, but TH was very intimidated with the shuttle cock that is being used report says. It's a Victor (green)! Obviously, many players complain on the behaviour of the Victor shuttles! Even Bao Chunlai had a miserable time with this feather, spectators reported. Most of the players, if not all, keep on requesting for feather replacement during the games. Some Victor representatives in the event claim that it's the airconditioning that affects the overall speed and "flight" pattern of their feather. The Victor courts did not get a "thumbs up" from majority of the players as well. Some players had some "weird" falls due to the slippery conditions of the courts. I do hope Victor can improve their product line soon. :rolleyes:

But,I'm curious...is it true about the news that Taufiq have a son before? if it is true,probably his emotion r disturbed because of that....

But,I'm curious...is it true about the news that Taufiq have a son before? if it is true,probably his emotion r disturbed because of that....

Eerrr.... there was a woman who claimed that her son was Taufik's... but we don't talk about that anymore in Jakarta... Taufik's father in law, the General Agum Gumelar, made sure the rumors 'dissapear'... ;) [just kidding]

[quote=jimbo;618752]Source: badzine.info

Taufik Hidayat bowed out and shocked the crowd as he lost to Nguyen Tien Minh of Vietnam in 2 sets 21-18 / 21-12 in the second round. “I was surprised that I won the match. In a way I felt that Taufik was not playing his best”, said Tien Minh.

“I found it hard to control the shuttle, it was too slow. I was frustrated that it went this way. However Tien Minh played well and he deserved to win”, said Taufik Hidayat.

When Taufik played against Tien, he had a lot of baseline shots that went "long". I give due credit to Tien for his tenacity and very good conditioning against the very unpredictable shots of TH, but TH was very intimidated with the shuttle cock that is being used report says. It's a Victor (green)! Obviously, many players complain on the behaviour of the Victor shuttles! Even Bao Chunlai had a miserable time with this feather, spectators reported. Most of the players, if not all, keep on requesting for feather replacement during the games. Some Victor representatives in the event claim that it's the airconditioning that affects the overall speed and "flight" pattern of their feather. The Victor courts did not get a "thumbs up" from majority of the players as well. Some players had some "weird" falls due to the slippery conditions of the courts. I do hope Victor can improve their product line soon. :rolleyes:

these excuses like wind draft, shuttles speed/quality, lighting, etc are just excuses because each player subject the same conditions.

[quote=RSLdude;620100] these excuses like wind draft, shuttles speed/quality, lighting, etc are just excuses because each player subject the same conditions.

you're right cooler... they WERE SUBJECTED to the same conditions... many were injured...:mad:

No Sarwendah, no Rosi, no Ratih... Too few participants in the Veteran WD... :p They organizers decided not to play that category.

Bobby Ertanto-Heryanto were seeded 1st, Iie Sumirat-[Major General] Sabar Yudo was seeded 2nd. I also saw Hermawan Susanto, Hastomo Arbi, Eddy Hartono, Eddy Kurniawan competing... ;) :D I heard they want to play in KL for the Senior's World Championship soon... Want to beat old opponents...

One day, Taufik, Sony, Simon, and Andre will play in these tournaments... :D Ha ha ha...

Krisna, You went to Tegal and watched Sinar Mutiara Cup tournament.

Can you post the results of this tournament ?

I only had the news that Budi Santoso (Mutiara) and Rosaria Pungkasari (Djarum) won in MS & WS Open Category

Budi beat Sartono Eko Pranoto (Djarum), Nugroho (Djarum) and Achmad Rivai (Ratih) in Final
Rosaria beat Ranny Christina Sanusi (Djarum)

[quote=jimbo;618752]Source: badzine.info

Taufik Hidayat bowed out and shocked the crowd as he lost to Nguyen Tien Minh of Vietnam in 2 sets 21-18 / 21-12 in the second round. “I was surprised that I won the match. In a way I felt that Taufik was not playing his best”, said Tien Minh.

“I found it hard to control the shuttle, it was too slow. I was frustrated that it went this way. However Tien Minh played well and he deserved to win”, said Taufik Hidayat.

When Taufik played against Tien, he had a lot of baseline shots that went "long". I give due credit to Tien for his tenacity and very good conditioning against the very unpredictable shots of TH, but TH was very intimidated with the shuttle cock that is being used report says. It's a Victor (green)! Obviously, many players complain on the behaviour of the Victor shuttles! Even Bao Chunlai had a miserable time with this feather, spectators reported. Most of the players, if not all, keep on requesting for feather replacement during the games. Some Victor representatives in the event claim that it's the airconditioning that affects the overall speed and "flight" pattern of their feather. The Victor courts did not get a "thumbs up" from majority of the players as well. Some players had some "weird" falls due to the slippery conditions of the courts. I do hope Victor can improve their product line soon. :rolleyes:


that's a good explanation for taufik lost..
his characteristic is when he dun feel happy, he will giv up...

Krisna, You went to Tegal and watched Sinar Mutiara Cup tournament.

Can you post the results of this tournament ?

I only had the news that Budi Santoso (Mutiara) and Rosaria Pungkasari (Djarum) won in MS & WS Open Category

Budi beat Sartono Eko Pranoto (Djarum), Nugroho (Djarum) and Achmad Rivai (Ratih) in Final
Rosaria beat Ranny Christina Sanusi (Djarum)

I already left Tegal when the finals happened, but my friend who was still there told me:
WS: Rosaria "Pipin" Pungkasari [Djarum] defeated Rhanny Sanusi [Djarum]
GS Taruna: Lindaweni [Ragunan] defeated Jenna Gozali [Djarum]
GS Remaja: Rischa [Djarum] defeated Gabby [I think Jaya Raya]...
I pay more attention to the Women's game... He he he...:p

MS: ...I am not sure whether Budi won the final... But in the semis Ahmad Rivai defeated Nugroho Andi Saputro [a.k.a. Gepeng], and... maybe Budi won over Sartono Eko [a.k.a. Kiki]

I already left Tegal when the finals happened, but my friend who was still there told me:
WS: Rosaria "Pipin" Pungkasari [Djarum] defeated Rhanny Sanusi [Djarum]
GS Taruna: Lindaweni [Ragunan] defeated Jenna Gozali [Djarum]
GS Remaja: Rischa [Djarum] defeated Gabby [I think Jaya Raya]...
I pay more attention to the Women's game... He he he...:p

MS: ...I am not sure whether Budi won the final... But in the semis Ahmad Rivai defeated Nugroho Andi Saputro [a.k.a. Gepeng], and... maybe Budi won over Sartono Eko [a.k.a. Kiki]


Thank's for the info

Gabby from Ragunan
Budi def Kiki in Quarter Final, so in SF Budi beat "Bon Jovi"
still blind of BS U-19 and U-16 results

[quote=jimbo;618752]Source: badzine.info

Taufik Hidayat bowed out and shocked the crowd as he lost to Nguyen Tien Minh of Vietnam in 2 sets 21-18 / 21-12 in the second round. “I was surprised that I won the match. In a way I felt that Taufik was not playing his best”, said Tien Minh.

“I found it hard to control the shuttle, it was too slow. I was frustrated that it went this way. However Tien Minh played well and he deserved to win”, said Taufik Hidayat.

When Taufik played against Tien, he had a lot of baseline shots that went "long". I give due credit to Tien for his tenacity and very good conditioning against the very unpredictable shots of TH, but TH was very intimidated with the shuttle cock that is being used report says. It's a Victor (green)! Obviously, many players complain on the behaviour of the Victor shuttles! Even Bao Chunlai had a miserable time with this feather, spectators reported. Most of the players, if not all, keep on requesting for feather replacement during the games. Some Victor representatives in the event claim that it's the airconditioning that affects the overall speed and "flight" pattern of their feather. The Victor courts did not get a "thumbs up" from majority of the players as well. Some players had some "weird" falls due to the slippery conditions of the courts. I do hope Victor can improve their product line soon. :rolleyes:


Fastdrop informed me that many players tripped..so it is true....whether it affected the players....we would not know but it happened when I called fasdrop and he mentioned it couple times....

taufik..taufik..taufik.... (sigh)

taufik just didn't want to play Chen Hong again.

Tien Minh is a gud player.We should congratulate him becuz in VN he is the one who can make it now.

Tien Minh is a gud player.We should congratulate him becuz in VN he is the one who can make it now.

sure i agree with u...^^...