Will CHN dominance end here in WC07

[robin7]

CHN has been dominating in the World Championships by winning 36 golds & 26 silvers from the past 13 editions since its debutance in 1983. Can CHN continue its dominance in the coming WC? Or will its dominance end here?

Women's Singles
This is the 2nd strongest event after Women's Doubles for CHN, winning 4 golds & 5 silvers from the past 5 editions. The most recent loss came from Dai Yun to Camila Martin in 1999. Strong challenges are expected from overseas chinese players such as Zhou Mi, Wang Cheng & Pi Hong Yan, but CHN is still the favorite to win the title.

Women's Doubles
This is the traditional strongest event for CHN by winning 5 golds & 4 silvers from the past 5 editions. But recent defeats in China Masters & Philippines Open to INA & TPE pairs proved other countries have narrowed the gap & made WD more interesting to watch. With favorite still goes to CHN, can INA create upsets again?

Men's Singles
14 different winners from the past 15 editions since its introduction in 1977 with only Yang Yang (CHN) winning twice in 1987 & 1989. It shows how tough the competition in MS has been. Can LD (CHN) defend his title? Or is TH (INA) able to win it the 2nd time? Will LCW (MAS) become the 1st Malaysian to be crowned as World Champion?

Men's Doubles
KOR, INA, DEN, USA & CHN have won once each from the past 5 editions. MAS has put itself as one of the strong contenders this year alongside with CHN, INA, KOR & DEN.

Mixed Doubles
KOR, CHN, INA & ENG were the titlists in the past 5 editions. Kim Dong Moon/Ra Kyung Min (KOR) were the last pair to winning twice & runner-up once, . Anyway, the titlist for this year should be among CHN, INA & ENG.

[Dreamzz]

i reckon WS and WD are a foregone conclusion. sure, we've seen the INA WD gals put up a brave fight in recent tournaments, but in the big matches i would put my money on the more experienced CHN pairs.

MS will be interesting, LCW seems to be peaking at the right time, though he did lose to LD in the CHN masters. TH is always a dark horse, like my mama used to say, life is like a box of chocolates and so on .... PG i'm afraid to say is past his prime now, don't get me wrong, i'm a big fan and would love to see him succeed, but his performances recently have been rather poor. so i can't really see anyone, unless they're injured, other than LD, LCW and TH winning, and in that order.

MD is the most open by far, CHN, DEN, KOR, MAS and INA all have a shot, but i would say CY/FHF are definitely the hot favourites, followed by KKK/TBH. the danes are faltering slightly, so i would say that INA and KOR are the next best shots with MK/HS and LYD/JJS respectively.

XD will be keenly contested as well, with Zheng Bo/Gao Ling as favourites ahead of contenders such as Xie ZhongBo/Zhang YaWen, Nathan/Gail, Sudket/Saralee, Nova/Lilyana and Flandy/Vita. i will eat my hat if anyone other than these 5 win it! anthony/donna stand a chance, maybe a KOR pair or 2, but highly unlikely.

[SiuMcFung]

i reckon WS and WD are a foregone conclusion. sure, we've seen the INA WD gals put up a brave fight in recent tournaments, but in the big matches i would put my money on the more experienced CHN pairs.

MS will be interesting, LCW seems to be peaking at the right time, though he did lose to LD in the CHN masters. TH is always a dark horse, like my mama used to say, life is like a box of chocolates and so on .... PG i'm afraid to say is past his prime now, don't get me wrong, i'm a big fan and would love to see him succeed, but his performances recently have been rather poor. so i can't really see anyone, unless they're injured, other than LD, LCW and TH winning, and in that order.

MD is the most open by far, CHN, DEN, KOR, MAS and INA all have a shot, but i would say CY/FHF are definitely the hot favourites, followed by KKK/TBH. the danes are faltering slightly, so i would say that INA and KOR are the next best shots with MK/HS and LYD/JJS respectively.

XD will be keenly contested as well, with Zheng Bo/Gao Ling as favourites ahead of contenders such as Xie ZhongBo/Zhang YaWen, Nathan/Gail, Sudket/Saralee, Nova/Lilyana and Flandy/Vita. i will eat my hat if anyone other than these 5 win it! anthony/donna stand a chance, maybe a KOR pair or 2, but highly unlikely.



totally agree with u!;)

[apontoh]

The short answer to the title of the thread is No. I would be pleasantly surprised if CHN wins less than 3 of the 5 titles...WS, WD foregone conclusion. MD, MS, MX - CHN still favorites with CY/FHF, LD, and GL/ZB. though MAS has a a chance of upsetting either MD or MS (or both), and INA may take XD. But note that LCW, KKK/TBH, and Nova/Butet have all just won in the Phillipines Open which in my opinion, is a disadvantage entering the WC. It's normally unlikely for players to win two consecutive tournaments, unless they're on fire (like KKK/TBH in the case of AE and Swiss SS this year).

[samuel882]

WC is exactly 1 month frm now.. So to worried about players peak at wrong timing as totally out of Question.. Unless the WC will be held somewhere next week or the beginning of AUgust.. then it will be a real doubt for them..
Both MAS/INA players shld sharpened their skills at training given the 1 mth break... Wich will be essential to peak once again when the real championship get set on track

[zqloy]

WC is exactly 1 month frm now.. So to worried about players peak at wrong timing as totally out of Question.. Unless the WC will be held somewhere next week or the beginning of AUgust.. then it will be a real doubt for them..
Both MAS/INA players shld sharpened their skills at training given the 1 mth break... Wich will be essential to peak once again when the real championship get set on track

Dude, they hv only less than 1 month to prepare. Nevertheless, we should hv faith on our player will shine in WC. If they can even grab any one of the titles, its already a huge success.

[LazyBuddy]

Women's Doubles
This is the traditional strongest event for CHN by winning 5 golds & 4 silvers from the past 5 editions. But recent defeats in China Masters & Philippines Open to INA & TPE pairs proved other countries have narrowed the gap & made WD more interesting to watch. With favorite still goes to CHN, can INA create upsets again?



No doubt that other nations, especially the INA pairs are making some noise for themselves. However, the "narrowed gap" is more to do with CHN team itself, as they are featuring mostly young players or scratch (testing) pairs. Once the WC comes, they will field in the most experienced and well proven pairs, and defeating such 3 pairs in a row, it's almost like mission impossible. I am willing to see some upset, but this event is the most unlikely one to be seen. :o

[taufik-ist]

Ina squad will stop the china's domination in WC 2007

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[drifit]

Ina squad will stop the china's domination in WC 2007

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with this cat, sure can stop the whole army....:D

[huangkwokhau]

Ina squad will stop the china's domination in WC 2007

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Thats hilarious.....I just hope INA can give a good fight despite the outcome.....especially XD and WD.

[taufik-ist]

Thats hilarious.....I just hope INA can give a good fight despite the outcome.....especially XD and WD.

:D :D... Huang, don't forget to cheer our players like in PO :D :p

[madbad]

Based on recent form and team strength, I see the following as the possible winners:

MS - LD, LCW, TH (sorry, no Wacha, PG or Boonsak)
WD - XXF, ZN (foreign contingent including a very strong HK will challenge and make it close)
MD - FHF/CY, KKK/TBH, LYD/JJS (Danes on the downside, INA not consistent)
WD - Any CHN pair, Butet/Vita (TPE pair could surprise)
XD - Any CHN pair, NR/GE (Nova/Butet & Sudket/Saralee a cut below)

However I don't say this with much confidence as recent results have indicated a slight closing of the gap between everyone else and CHN. In fact, I don't see the WS as being a foregone conclusion and the crown could well be wrestled out of CHN's hands. I just hope it's competitive.

[samuel882]

Thats hilarious.....I just hope INA can give a good fight despite the outcome.....especially XD and WD.

That's true ! INA is highly impossible to sweep all the 5 titles as CHN.. Their best chance only comes in the doubles...

[huangkwokhau]

:D :D... Huang, don't forget to cheer our players like in PO :D :p
I will be in Asia....I may not come to KL as my business trip had changed...I may be in shanghai/Hangzhou/Ningbo during WC....sad....I will be in Jakarta after that.....we should get together with krisna,plus other BC members...
Lets invite Candra..hope he remembered as I was his first tour guide when he came to LA with Meiluawati and Ade Trisna (?)

[apontoh]

No doubt that other nations, especially the INA pairs are making some noise for themselves. However, the "narrowed gap" is more to do with CHN team itself, as they are featuring mostly young players or scratch (testing) pairs.

well, don't forget that Vita/Lilyana is a scratch pair...

[X Ball]

Thats hilarious.....I just hope INA can give a good fight despite the outcome.....especially XD and WD.
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/2623/gatomatadoranimadowl6to5.gif

No cats allowed on this website !!!

As for INA squad doing its best, sure it will. :)

[Linus]

My guess will be China will go home with minimum 3 Golds in WS, WD and XD.

MD will probably go to Malaysia.

MS is the only event that is really wide open and at least 4 countries (China, Malaysia, Indonesia and Thailand) have a chance to win it.

One fact that cannot be denied that the draw will play a crucial part in determine the progress - this is especially so for the WD and XD for China as well to a certain extent the MD for Malaysia. If the spread are good and they avoid to meet their team mates, the better the chance they would have.

[samuel882]

As far as i know... That is a rules on WC stating that same country players must be avoided by meeting against each other before th semis final stage... Not sure this year edition will be any changes on that or not.. IF still the same.. then there is very likely CHN to meet each others only in final for let's say... WS..WD match

[abedeng]

I think the WC rules will apply, top 2 players from a single country will be separated in different bracket.

Also we have to consider quite a number of the participants are coming from non-traditional powerhouses. So actually, in terms of overall strength of participants, SuperSeries is stronger and more intense.

Anyway, I will eat my hat if Gao Ling/Zheng Bo doesn't win XD. Not that I like to see them dominate XD too much, but Gao Ling is much too cute to lose ....

[Linus]

Anyway, I will eat my hat if Gao Ling/Zheng Bo doesn't win XD. Not that I like to see them dominate XD too much, but Gao Ling is much too cute to lose ....

I know you are sayign that with tongue in cheek :p but saying Gao Ling is much too cute to lose is a disservice to her ability. She is just so strong in the double event especially at the net, yet she is thinking of improving it! :eek:

[X Ball]

I think I agree with Abedeng -- her slight lantern jaw is quite cute.

[OneToughBirdie]

I think I agree with Abedeng -- her slight lantern jaw is quite cute.
Ahhhh!!! Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, :p:p

[X Ball]

Ahhhh!!! Beauty is in the eyes of the beholder, :p:p


Again, you are one tough birdie. LOL

[robin7]

Let me define "dominance" here: if CHN wins anything less than 3 golds, then its dominance ends. Anyway, CHN normally performs well in big occasions, let's wait & see.:)

Btw, any ideas when will the draws be released?

I'm just wondering if TH is at the same half with LD or LCW.

[abedeng]

I'm wondering if TH is going to show up at all. By all means, he should (even if it might lessen LCW's chances). In WC, the real top players (based on talent, not ranking) must participate.

Linus, Gao Ling's abilities and consistency are a given, to most of us, there is no need to mention that anymore .... until another Ra Kyung Min comes to challenge, she stands alone.

[samuel882]

I think the WC rules will apply, top 2 players from a single country will be separated in different bracket.

Also we have to consider quite a number of the participants are coming from non-traditional powerhouses. So actually, in terms of overall strength of participants, SuperSeries is stronger and more intense.

WC is only held once a year... Its still has prestigous.. While Superseries results often are predictable... Except on CM.. the super wacha stunt evy 1 there !! While WC we seldom saw any players come up on top from nowhere...
Probably the ever exciting Tony/Howard frm US is an exception...

[apontoh]

Gao Ling is cute, I agree...

[OneToughBirdie]

Gao Ling is cute, I agree...
XBall said "I think I agree with Abedeng -- her slight lantern jaw is quite cute"...so I take it you like lantern jaw too...hahaha!!!LOL!!:p:p:D:D

[X Ball]

XBall said "I think I agree with Abedeng -- her slight lantern jaw is quite cute"...so I take it you like lantern jaw too...hahaha!!!LOL!!:p:p:D:D


Hey my friend, slight and full are two different things.

[azabaz_ipoh]

i like cat! cat nice! :D

[samuel882]

I prefer Puppies... More loyalty..:D:D:D

[george@chongwei]

gao ling always smile when playing badminton... but in XD i don think so..
~SMILE~

[OneToughBirdie]

Hey my friend, slight and full are two different things.
XBall, slight and full, what does it matter, still lantern jaw...I actually laugh when you said "lantern" jaw...what a way to describe, hahaha!! it is dangerous, you know, if you are riding a motobike and GL is at the back, her lantern jaw will bruise your back...hahaha!!!:D:p

[robin7]

Since when this thread turned into "Discussion on Gao Ling's Smile"?:confused:

Anyway, to me, Gao Ling is the female version of Park Joo Bong. She can partner with anyone & win titles. She is a great player on court & a nice person off court. I always see her smiling whether losing or winning. Maybe Maria Sharapova should learn from her.:p

Seeing GL winning a double both in WD & XD is great. But I also want other countries esp. ENG & INA to step up & give it a good fight.:)

As far as MAS is concerned, I really want badly LCW & KKK/TBH to give their best & win Malaysia the first World Champion. A double would be the best!:)

Looks like this WC has turned into the battle between CHN & the rest of the world. Anyway, the best players should prevail.:cool:

[cooler]

the biggest challenge for china team is the malaysian fans.
LD failed twice in malayisan open. I only hope for fair line judging:D

[samuel882]

Looks like this WC has turned into the battle between CHN & the rest of the world. Anyway, the best players should prevail.:cool:
i can foresee its the real battle will be between CHN team against MAS fans:D:D

[robin7]

the biggest challenge for china team is the malaysian fans.
LD failed twice in malayisan open. I only hope for fair line judging:D

Line judging has always been the issue in any tournaments but I just hope that it can be minimised this time round!:D

I just read from China Press: LYB stated that the passing mark for the coming WC is 3 golds & rated MD & XD as the favorites besides WS.:rolleyes:

Besides, I also found out the worst outing for CHN was 1 gold each in 1993 & 1995 thru Nong Kuanhus and Zhou Lai in WD & Ye Zhaoying in WS respectively.

[CLELY]

Let me define "dominance" here: if CHN wins anything less than 3 golds, then its dominance ends. Anyway, CHN normally performs well in big occasions, let's wait & see.:)

Btw, any ideas when will the draws be released?

I'm just wondering if TH is at the same half with LD or LCW.

According to the definition about dominance, I guess CHN will grab 3 titles through XD-WD-WS. 2 other fields, MS and MD will be opened for any participant but host-fave LCW plus KKK/TBH are the front-runners in my mind.

From BWF website, drawing will be held on 03 August 2007 based on latest World Ranking (02 August 2007) to determine seeds.

Hmm, doubtly whether TH will attend this year WC or not. Looks like TH often makes us wondering...

[robin7]

According to the definition about dominance, I guess CHN will grab 3 titles through XD-WD-WS. 2 other fields, MS and MD will be opened for any participant but host-fave LCW plus KKK/TBH are the front-runners in my mind.

From BWF website, drawing will be held on 03 August 2007 based on latest World Ranking (02 August 2007) to determine seeds.

Hmm, doubtly whether TH will attend this year WC or not. Looks like TH often makes us wondering...

Taufik factor....

As far as top seeds are concerned, it's unlucky to be at the same half with TH. Why?

During MO07, LD beat TH in 1st round but was beaten in 2nd round. LCW beat TH in QF but was beaten in SF in CM07. Looks like whoever beats TH will be beaten in the following round. It must take a lot mentally as well as physically from someone to beat TH. It's interesting!:D

[abedeng]

i can foresee its the real battle will be between CHN team against MAS fans:D:D

Nay, the real battle will between MAS supporters and INA supporters, and possibly CHN supporters too. :D

But don't worry, there won't be any fireworks, all done in good spirit .....

[george@chongwei]

i hope the line judge will not cheat be fair...

[PlayaFromMalaya]

hope the line judge favors malaysians :D

[zqloy]

Nay, the real battle will between MAS supporters and INA supporters, and possibly CHN supporters too. :D

But don't worry, there won't be any fireworks, all done in good spirit .....

The fans will be:
Malaysia - 80%
Indo - 15%
China - 5%
Thus, the loudest will be Malaysia!
:D:D:D

[samuel882]

No !! We want to see the "fair & Clean" WC in KL..

[robin7]

CHN has been dominating in the World Championships by winning 36 golds & 26 silvers from the past 13 editions since its debutance in 1983. Can CHN continue its dominance in the coming WC? Or will its dominance end here?

Women's Singles
This is the 2nd strongest event after Women's Doubles for CHN, winning 4 golds & 5 silvers from the past 5 editions. The most recent loss came from Dai Yun to Camila Martin in 1999. Strong challenges are expected from overseas chinese players such as Zhou Mi, Wang Cheng & Pi Hong Yan, but CHN is still the favorite to win the title.

Women's Doubles
This is the traditional strongest event for CHN by winning 5 golds & 4 silvers from the past 5 editions. But recent defeats in China Masters & Philippines Open to INA & TPE pairs proved other countries have narrowed the gap & made WD more interesting to watch. With favorite still goes to CHN, can INA create upsets again?

Men's Singles
14 different winners from the past 15 editions since its introduction in 1977 with only Yang Yang (CHN) winning twice in 1987 & 1989. It shows how tough the competition in MS has been. Can LD (CHN) defend his title? Or is TH (INA) able to win it the 2nd time? Will LCW (MAS) become the 1st Malaysian to be crowned as World Champion?

Men's Doubles
KOR, INA, DEN, USA & CHN have won once each from the past 5 editions. MAS has put itself as one of the strong contenders this year alongside with CHN, INA, KOR & DEN.

Mixed Doubles
KOR, CHN, INA & ENG were the titlists in the past 5 editions. Kim Dong Moon/Ra Kyung Min (KOR) were the last pair to win twice & runner-up once, . Anyway, the titlist for this year should be among CHN, INA & ENG.
CHN continues its dominance by winnng 3 titles thru MS, WS & WD.

[LazyBuddy]

CHN continues its dominance by winnng 3 titles thru MS, WS & WD.

3 Gold (MS, WS & WD), 2 Silver (MXD, WD) and 6 Bronze (2 MS, 2 WS, WD, MXD) OMG... :rolleyes:

[badMania]

MD is the most open by far, CHN, DEN, KOR, MAS and INA all have a shot, but i would say CY/FHF are definitely the hot favourites, followed by KKK/TBH. the danes are faltering slightly, so i would say that INA and KOR are the next best shots with MK/HS and LYD/JJS respectively.

XD will be keenly contested as well, with Zheng Bo/Gao Ling as favourites ahead of contenders such as Xie ZhongBo/Zhang YaWen, Nathan/Gail, Sudket/Saralee, Nova/Lilyana and Flandy/Vita. i will eat my hat if anyone other than these 5 win it! anthony/donna stand a chance, maybe a KOR pair or 2, but highly unlikely.

Spot on with your predictions :D

[abedeng]

Talking about line judging, a mix of local and foreign line judges were employed. Seems to work, I hardly see any questionable line call. Maybe they should use this for all tournaments esp major ones.

[hcyong]

The line judging in this tournament has been one of the fairest I ever witnessed. Very impartial.

Pity about the draft though.