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hsengsping
08-06-2007, 08:22 AM
KKK/TBH will overtake FHF/CY in the rankings as long as they do 1 round better than the CHN pair in WC - there are only 440 points separating them before adding WC points. Also as long as they reach QF, MK/HS cannot overtake even if MK/KS won.
Would be a tremendous achievement to get to No 1 within 10 months of formation!
Counting chickens before they hatc.....
Thats good news. Hope they will do well.
X Ball
08-06-2007, 08:28 AM
Absolutely achievable. I know the chicken will hatch !
samuel882
08-06-2007, 08:33 AM
Wow :eek: Really unbelievable.. Feng Yun place in top 1 ranking has been sustain for such a long period... Its about time for a change..
BTW, KKK/should not get over by it.. They still have many chances in the future to be top of the world :)
When they are #1. I sincerely hope they can maintain as well as what FU/Cai did.
samuel882
08-06-2007, 08:38 AM
As chinese phrase : "To reach the peak of the hill is easy, but to remain it there it will be a process much more harder than climb to the Top." Hopes they will maintain it..
volcom
08-06-2007, 08:54 AM
seriously how does the ranking work... kkk/tbh have won only one tournament in the past ages.... while cy/fhf won heaps.... yet they are under threat of being overtaken?
samuel882
08-06-2007, 09:01 AM
I fink nobody knows how the ranking points works exactly. KKK/TBh won more than 1 SS.. They are far more consistent than other pairs excluding Feng Yun only in the world at the moment..
They will overtake Feng yun soon if they remain this kinda forms.. But in 1 week time? I really doubts?:rolleyes:
zqloy
08-06-2007, 09:19 AM
seriously how does the ranking work... kkk/tbh have won only one tournament in the past ages.... while cy/fhf won heaps.... yet they are under threat of being overtaken?
KKK/TBH won more titles than Cai/Fu this year, u should do yr homework 1st.
hsengsping
08-06-2007, 09:26 AM
seriously how does the ranking work... kkk/tbh have won only one tournament in the past ages.... while cy/fhf won heaps.... yet they are under threat of being overtaken?
FHF/CY 78124 points - 10000 (they were champs last year) = 68124 + WC
KKK/TBH 69884- 2220 (their worst points of last 10 dropped) = 67664 + WC
Diff 68124-67664 = 460 pts
If KKB/TBH go 1R better and reach at least QF (min 6600 points i.e. min 67664 + 6600 = 74264) they make up the difference with FHF/CY and also MK/HS cannot overtake.
MK/HS 64430 - 3600 (worst points dropped) = 60830 + 12000 win=72830 max
With BWF recent record of ignoring rulebook - I hope ranking calcs don't get change next week without warning!
Dreamzz
08-06-2007, 10:30 AM
yeah, congrats to them if they can make it, hopefully they won't let it go to their heads again like after the AE and swiss open ....
winnie
08-06-2007, 10:58 AM
whoa!! is this true? i cant wait for WC to see their performance!
2cents
08-06-2007, 10:59 AM
KKK/TBH will overtake FHF/CY in the rankings as long as they do 1 round better than the CHN pair in WC - there are only 440 points separating them before adding WC points. Also as long as they reach QF, MK/HS cannot overtake even if MK/KS won.
Would be a tremendous achievement to get to No 1 within 10 months of formation!
Counting chickens before they hatc.....
Well, KKK/TBH started to collect IBF ranking points from Thomas cup, May 7th, 2006 which was more than 1 year ago.
Their individual ranking points from October 15th, 2006. Now they have a chance to achieve the #1 ranking if they do better next week than Cai/Fu.
But Zheng Bo/Gao Ling started to collect point January 21, 2007, this year. They already took the #1 ranking early last month (in a little bit more than 6 months), by playing only 7 tournaments. Comparing them, KKK/TBH have already played 10 tournaments (the maximum), and took 5 months more than Zheng/Gao to just have a chance to grab the #1 which Zheng/Gao already got last month.
Of course KKK/TBH are fabulous players, but unlike Zheng/Gao, they stopped rolling suddenly, don't know the exact reason behind. Hope they do well this time with their home court advantage.
Zheng/Gao seem not be as good as before either. They lost to Xie ZB/Zhang YW recently. Maybe Zheng/Gao is still as good as before, but Xie ZB is in a super form now, or just because Xie has recovered from his injuries as he claimed.
Well, KKK/TBH started to collect IBF ranking points from Thomas cup, May 7th, 2006 which was more than 1 year ago.
Their individual ranking points from October 15th, 2006. Now they have a chance to achieve the #1 ranking if they do better next week than Cai/Fu.
But Zheng Bo/Gao Ling started to collect point January 21, 2007, this year. They already took the #1 ranking early last month, by playing only 7 tournaments. Comparing them, KKK/TBH have already played 10 tournaments (the maximum), and took 5 months more than Zheng/Gao to just have a chance to grab the #1 which Zheng/Gao already got last month.
Of course KKK/TBH are fabulous players, but unlike Zheng/Gao, they stopped rolling suddenly, don't know the exactly reason behind. Hope they do well this time with their home court advantage.
Zheng/Gao seem not be as good as before either. They lost to Xie ZB/Zhang YW recently. Maybe Zheng/Gao is still as good as before, but Xie ZB is in a super form.
Eventually the winning streak of Gao Ling/Zheng Bo will end, just hope it doesn't happen on the main event like World Championship. Remember Kim Dong Moon/Ra Yuming was unbeatable and on route to win the Olympic Gold then the unpredicted outcome happened, they lost in early round :crying:
2cents
08-06-2007, 11:51 AM
Eventually the winning streak of Gao Ling/Zheng Bo will end, just hope it doesn't happen on the main event like World Championship. Remember Kim Dong Moon/Ra Yuming was unbeatable and on route to win the Olympic Gold then the unpredicted outcome happened, they lost in early round :crying:
Lin Dan, Chen Hong, and Bao CL were other examples. They won everything and took top 3 positions in the ranking heading into Olympics, but all of them failed in early rounds, and all of them came from the same country.
2cents
08-06-2007, 11:57 AM
So we can not judge players just by one tournament of just Olympics. Ji Xingpeng got gold at Olympics, Zhang Jun even got 2 golds, and swept all major titles, but it is still hard to say Zhang Jun were better than Kim DM.
robin7
08-06-2007, 01:14 PM
Being #1 in the world ranking just a bonus, what's more important is to win more majors. Being WR#1 without WC or Olympic is not convincing. It's just like Roger Federer, being WR#1, without Grand Slams.
cooler
08-06-2007, 01:20 PM
Absolutely achievable. I know the chicken will hatch !nah, cai/fu will fries them as scramble eggs for breakfast:p
bananaboy
08-06-2007, 01:29 PM
Here is a survey...
How many of you here have ever said that Lin Dan ranking at world #1 for 3 years means nothing? If so, please do us a favor and slap yourself in the face:p
samuel882
08-06-2007, 04:24 PM
Here is a survey...
How many of you here have ever said that Lin Dan ranking at world #1 for 3 years means nothing? If so, please do us a favor and slap yourself in the face:p
LD still will be considered incomplete w/o an OLYMPIC gold medals in his collections ! He remain on top for 3 years due to CHN send him to as many tournaments as possible during this tournament . LYB s good at statistic maths :D:D:D
xXazn_romeoXx
08-06-2007, 05:04 PM
it would be awesome if someone was #1 for more than 3 years, but LD didn't due to a few slips and missed tournaments...i don't remember when it was, but he dropped to #2 and #3 a few times during his 3 year reign...i think it was chen jin that over took him for a few weeks until LD took it back...but he was still top tops in the world which is an amazing acheivement nonetheless XD
xXazn_romeoXx
08-06-2007, 05:05 PM
oh and Fu/Cai will destroy everyone ^^
bananaboy
08-06-2007, 05:24 PM
Here is a survey...
How many of you here have ever said that Lin Dan ranking at world #1 for 3 years means nothing? If so, please do us a favor and slap yourself in the face:p
LD still will be considered incomplete w/o an OLYMPIC gold medals in his collections ! He remain on top for 3 years due to CHN send him to as many tournaments as possible during this tournament . LYB s good at statistic maths :D:D:D
Your post was supposingly referring to my above post... but it seems like you don't quite understand the deeper meaning of my post, and you replied based on what it seems to mean... sigh...:rolleyes:
samuel882
08-06-2007, 05:59 PM
you are welcome to MAS bananaboy & witness the 1st ever World Champion in KL by MAS MS / MD team
bananaboy
08-06-2007, 06:29 PM
you are welcome to MAS bananaboy & witness the 1st ever World Champion in KL by MAS MS / MD team
Why would anyone want to go to Malaysia in the first place?:rolleyes: Plus, I wouldn't want to witness a riot once all Malaysia players are all eliminated from the WC.
I thought you said you are not a die-hard Malaysia fan... how you constantly conflicting yourself is just amazing.:eek: You can consider yourself not a die-hard Malaysia fan if you don't consider X Ball as one...
Proof:
Go ahead BANANA boy to support blindly for Wacha... U will eat ur words when wacha crashed out in the 1st or 2nd round.. BTW, i am not a die-hard MAS supporters..
samuel882
08-06-2007, 06:39 PM
Mind to explain why u post so many thread about Wacha.. Then in the end u said i am "Silly Enough" to believe u r so supportive to him?
Pls read all the post i have written here before u start to shoot ur AK47 bullets here and there.. I did Support BP, KOREAN MD Players... I also did praised Feng Yun before ... etc.....!
Secondly.. No 1 forced you to come MAS.. Its just a friendly invitation. U do have a choice.. Ups to u.. U ARE REALLY SILLY TO CONFESS IT WILL BE A RIOTS HERE IF MAS FAILED TO WIN ANY TITLE IN KL !
Oh.. Mayb u are the enemies of MAS die-hard supporters That's why u dont have the courage to comes here..
ixory
08-06-2007, 07:33 PM
wah good news for MAS golden pair. If it true,hope it last longer...:p:D
2cents
08-06-2007, 08:33 PM
Assume Mas MD title possibility is 40% and MS is 30%, then winning at least one title's possibility should be 58%, pretty good indeed.
X Ball
08-06-2007, 08:38 PM
As chinese phrase : "To reach the peak of the hill is easy, but to remain it there it will be a process much more harder than climb to the Top." Hopes they will maintain it..
The English thinks different : "It is easy when you are at the top"!:D
X Ball
08-06-2007, 08:40 PM
seriously how does the ranking work... kkk/tbh have won only one tournament in the past ages.... while cy/fhf won heaps.... yet they are under threat of being overtaken?
How old are you ---- memory lapses ?
X Ball
08-06-2007, 08:42 PM
nah, cai/fu will fries them as scramble eggs for breakfast:p
Yeah but can they swallow the eggs -- it may choke them. Nobody is going to win this except KKK-TBH. It is as good as in the bag, short of them rolling up for the game.:D
X Ball
08-06-2007, 08:44 PM
Here is a survey...
How many of you here have ever said that Lin Dan ranking at world #1 for 3 years means nothing? If so, please do us a favor and slap yourself in the face:p
You are asking the obvious. What we are saying (and have been saying and you are not listening well) is that all that is past have been recognised but what is to come will mean more. Got it? I hate repeating.:D
cooler
08-06-2007, 08:54 PM
Yeah but can they swallow the eggs -- it may choke them. Nobody is going to win this except KKK-TBH. It is as good as in the bag, short of them rolling up for the game.:D
u know what is scrambled eggs? It mean no chicken to count lol
what so difficult of swallowing scrambled eggs? Be thankful if cai/fu swallow the eggs raw, it would save them from the frying pan heat, lol.
X Ball
08-06-2007, 09:17 PM
u know what is scrambled eggs? It mean no chicken to count lol
what so difficult of swallowing scrambled eggs? Be thankful if cai/fu swallow the eggs raw, it would save them from the frying pan heat, lol.
This boy has got humour but what a weird sense of humour !:D
xXazn_romeoXx
08-06-2007, 09:21 PM
Assume Mas MD title possibility is 40% and MS is 30%, then winning at least one title's possibility should be 58%, pretty good indeed.
lolz you must mean 40% of 100% and then 30% of 100%, so it must be 58% of 200% no?, and therefore it's only 29% of winning 1 of them ;):D...LOL...
Pemuda
08-06-2007, 09:32 PM
KKK/TBH will overtake FHF/CY in the rankings as long as they do 1 round better than the CHN pair in WC - there are only 440 points separating them before adding WC points. Also as long as they reach QF, MK/HS cannot overtake even if MK/KS won.
Would be a tremendous achievement to get to No 1 within 10 months of formation!
Counting chickens before they hatc.....
Indeed you are counting the chicks even before they hatched.
I am sorry I gotta pour cold water at your high anticipation of KKK/TBH being world #1. I really think it is wishful thinking AND I STAND CORRECTED AND WOULD EAT HUMBLE PIE if KKK/TBH take the WC MD crown.
X Ball
08-06-2007, 09:34 PM
lolz you must mean 40% of 100% and then 30% of 100%, so it must be 58% of 200% no?, and therefore it's only 29% of winning 1 of them ;):D...LOL...
Probabilities are just probabilities. But let me tell you the odds the bookies are offering :
1. LD and LCW are both on 5/4
2. TH 7/4
3. BA CL 3/1
4. CJ and CY 4/1
5. PG 5/1
6. Simon Santosa 12/1
7. KJ 15/1
8. Hafiz 20/1
9. Sony (based on b-back) 25/1
Write your own ticket for the rest !:D
samuel882
08-06-2007, 09:41 PM
:D:DWacha 1000/1 !!
Darien
08-06-2007, 09:42 PM
u know what is scrambled eggs? It mean no chicken to count lol
what so difficult of swallowing scrambled eggs? Be thankful if cai/fu swallow the eggs raw, it would save them from the frying pan heat, lol.
yo Cooler, i support you! :p
hcyong
08-06-2007, 11:28 PM
lolz you must mean 40% of 100% and then 30% of 100%, so it must be 58% of 200% no?, and therefore it's only 29% of winning 1 of them ;):D...LOL...
Assumptions:
Chance of MAS winning MS = 0.3
Chance of MAS winning MD = 0.4
Based on the assumptions above, the probability of MAS NOT winning both titles is:
0.7 x 0.6 = 0.42
Therefore, the probability of MAS winning AT LEAST one title is 0.58.
samuel882
08-06-2007, 11:30 PM
1. LD and LCW are both on 5/4
2. TH 7/4
3. BA CL 3/1
4. CJ and CY 4/1
5. PG 5/1
6. Simon Santosa 12/1
7. KJ 15/1
8. Hafiz 20/1
9. Sony (based on b-back) 25/1
Write your own ticket for the rest !:D
who is Simon Santosa :confused::confused::rolleyes: :D:D
xXazn_romeoXx
08-06-2007, 11:33 PM
wait, just to make sure, you're saying
0.7 x 0.3 = 0.21 and 0.21 x 2(since it's 100% each) = 0.42
soo....
0.3 x 0.4 = 0.12 x 2 = 0.24
0.24 + 0.42 = 0.26...? which makes what sense and not equal 1?
err....explaination?
hcyong
08-06-2007, 11:38 PM
wait, just to make sure, you're saying
0.7 x 0.3 = 0.21 and 0.21 x 2(since it's 100% each) = 0.42
soo....
0.3 x 0.4 = 0.12 x 2 = 0.24
0.24 + 0.42 = 0.26...? which makes what sense and not equal 1?
err....explaination?
Typo. I corrected it.
Chance of A win = 0.3
Chance of B win = 0.4
Therefore,
Chance of both A and B win = 0.3 x 0.4
Chance of both A and B lose = 0.7 x 0.6
Chance of A win and B lose = 0.3 x 0.6
Chance of A lose and B win = 0.7 x 0.4
You will find that it all sums up to 1.0.
You can also say that the chance of at least one of them winning is
1 - (chance of them both losing) = 1 - 0.42 = 0.58.
xXazn_romeoXx
08-06-2007, 11:40 PM
oops, correction on MY part too, i typed the wrong thing as well XD....but anyways, thanks for clearing that up! i forgot about the different situations that could happen!
Yojimbo
08-08-2007, 11:17 AM
I don't really care about their rankings as long as they put up a really good fight in the coming WC.And Bananaboy...umm...I just want to say that Malaysia's not as bad as you think.Anyways, have faith in the players but don't be too overconfident.Anything can happen.
2cents
08-08-2007, 01:12 PM
Thank hcyong for your detailed explanations. I thought my calculation was quite simple and understandable, but ....
X Ball
08-08-2007, 07:58 PM
who is Simon Santosa :confused::confused::rolleyes: :D:D
Young Indonesian player that Indra thinks will wreck havoc on everyone. If I spelled his name wrong, it is because I am not his fan.:D
Joyous
08-08-2007, 08:38 PM
u know what is scrambled eggs? It mean no chicken to count lol
what so difficult of swallowing scrambled eggs? Be thankful if cai/fu swallow the eggs raw, it would save them from the frying pan heat, lol.
Ha..ha...that's a good one. But it's better to have scrambled eggs given the bird flu.
X Ball
08-08-2007, 09:00 PM
Ha..ha...that's a good one. But it's better to have scrambled eggs given the bird flu.
You know what is funnier is the way he asked whether I know about scrambled eggs. I can see the humour Cooler. Great one!:D
koo_fan
08-08-2007, 09:30 PM
Young Indonesian player that Indra thinks will wreck havoc on everyone. If I spelled his name wrong, it is because I am not his fan.:D
I think Indra should pick andre more than Simon.I dont think Simon can 'shines' in the WC.
X Ball
08-08-2007, 09:52 PM
I think Indra should pick andre more than Simon.I dont think Simon can 'shines' in the WC.
Not according to Indra. Anyway, the odds are against him going past the 3rd round with PG waiting.
Angelou
08-08-2007, 11:00 PM
This title is confusing. KKK/TBH will become world no.1 if they win the title right ? So if FHF/CY win the title, then they'll still be world no.1. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Anyways. I feel that FHF/CY chances of winning are not as good as KKK/TBH. If you compare the draws between the two, KKK/TBH have it much easier than FHF/CY. The Chinese Pair has to face 3 pairs that they've had trouble in the past with. This includes Jonas Rasmussen/Lars Parske, Candra Wiyaya/Tony Gunawan and Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah. All very good pairs that have defeated the Chinese Pair in the past. In particular, the Denmark Pairing and the Malaysian pair have a good chance. I say this because FHF/CY has succumb to petty tactics from their opponents before. This includes fist pumping, non-courteous servicing, and provoking. In particular, Jonas and Lee Wan Wah. I'd be very impressed if they actually got through these pairs.
Now if you look at KKK/TBH, the Malaysian pairing, they only have the Korean Pair to contend with, who haven't been doing well and the Danish Pair, who they haven't had significant problem in dealing with.
So if I were to predict who's going to win the title, it's going to be KKK/TBH, simply because they don't have to shove out their skills until the Finals. Where as FHF/CY are looking at very difficult pairings. And by then, I think they would of been studied quite well.
samuel882
08-08-2007, 11:10 PM
No doubt KKK/TBh has a better draw compare v FHH/CY.. Sometimes.. U needs to facing some tough match for u to excel in the latter stages.. There were of couple of instances whereby some pair having a easy ride towards final. But then tumble in their last hurdle against much stronger opponents. Furthermore, I fink the stamina will not be a big problem for CHN pair if some of those games lasting for 3 sets..
X Ball
08-08-2007, 11:18 PM
This title is confusing. KKK/TBH will become world no.1 if they win the title right ? So if FHF/CY win the title, then they'll still be world no.1. Tell me if I'm wrong.
Anyways. I feel that FHF/CY chances of winning are not as good as KKK/TBH. If you compare the draws between the two, KKK/TBH have it much easier than FHF/CY. The Chinese Pair has to face 3 pairs that they've had trouble in the past with. This includes Jonas Rasmussen/Lars Parske, Candra Wiyaya/Tony Gunawan and Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah. All very good pairs that have defeated the Chinese Pair in the past. In particular, the Denmark Pairing and the Malaysian pair have a good chance. I say this because FHF/CY has succumb to petty tactics from their opponents before. This includes fist pumping, non-courteous servicing, and provoking. In particular, Jonas and Lee Wan Wah. I'd be very impressed if they actually got through these pairs.
Now if you look at KKK/TBH, the Malaysian pairing, they only have the Korean Pair to contend with, who haven't been doing well and the Danish Pair, who they haven't had significant problem in dealing with.
So if I were to predict who's going to win the title, it's going to be KKK/TBH, simply because they don't have to shove out their skills until the Finals. Where as FHF/CY are looking at very difficult pairings. And by then, I think they would of been studied quite well.
Good analysis Angelou. For the same reasons, I am voting KKK-TBH to be world champions this year.
I like to say sometimes the draws are kind but other times, they are not. CAI-FU would have to come up with their best but KKK-TBH should not let their guards down either,which I don't think they will.
pjswift
08-09-2007, 12:19 AM
I don't think cai/fu will get past ctf/lww cos it's at the QF stage and stamina factor will not count.ctf/lww may want to recall how they beat cai/fu in HKO06, ie play relax and don't burn up 80% of the fuel in the first game.Actually CTF would now be on an emotional high with ZJW's presence. Who knows he might be in such inspired form, ctf/lww may end up winning the WC title!
pjswift
08-09-2007, 12:23 AM
Thank hcyong for your detailed explanations. I thought my calculation was quite simple and understandable, but ....
You can never beat hcyong for clarity. What took me one paragraph to put across he did it in 2 sentences and effortlessly clearer. Absolutely humbling. Often wonder and rather curious about his training background.
tjl_vanguard
08-09-2007, 12:54 AM
gosh.. this is just like studying high school math on probability....!!!
robin7
08-09-2007, 05:58 AM
Chance of A win = 0.3
Chance of B win = 0.4
Therefore,
Chance of both A and B win = 0.3 x 0.4
Chance of both A and B lose = 0.7 x 0.6
Chance of A win and B lose = 0.3 x 0.6
Chance of A lose and B win = 0.7 x 0.4
You will find that it all sums up to 1.0.
You can also say that the chance of at least one of them winning is
1 - (chance of them both losing) = 1 - 0.42 = 0.58.
Haha... Interesting.. It reminds me of my probability lesson.
Mathematically, probability of an event X can be denoted by P(X).
Suppose
A = Player A winning the trophy &
B = Pair B winning the trophy
Then
P(A) = 0.3 & P(B) = 0.4
P(A') = 0.7 & P(B') = 0.6
(a) By formula on independent events,
Probability of at least one winning the trophy
= P(AUB)
= P(A) + P(B) - P(A).P(B)
= 0.3 + 0.4 - 0.3*0.4
= 0.7 - 0.12
= 0.58 #
OR
(b) By summing all possible outcomes,
Probability of at least one winning the trophy
= P(A|B) + P(A|B') + P(A'|B)
= P(A).P(B) + P(A).P(B') + P(A').P(B)
= 0.3*0.4 + 0.3*0.6 + 0.7*0.4
= 0.12 + 0.18 + 2.8
= 0.58 #
OR
(c) By Complement Rule,
Probability of at least one winning the trophy
= P(AUB)
= 1 - P(A∩B)'
= 1 - P(A').P(B')
= 1 - 0.7*0.6
= 0.58 # (as explained by hcyong)
Note: All three methods above should give u the same answers.
Method A requires formula, if u don't remember it then that's it.
Method B is good solution for events that have a few outcomes.
Method C is the simplest & easiest.
Jessica
08-09-2007, 06:04 AM
Ha...In math,probability is one of my favourite lesson...
Blurry D
08-09-2007, 06:12 AM
wow okay's difficult stuff to swallow
koo_fan
08-09-2007, 11:30 AM
I'm just about to explore this probability chapter next week in my addmaths. u guys makes it look so easy .Im struggling to learn it.
Please dont run out of topic or this thread might be closed.
kenny7_2006
08-10-2007, 10:32 AM
yeah.... anyway, KKK-TBH can be world no.1, but can they maintain it? that's the big question.. i personally think they can, but in periods, coz MD is quite an open strong field...
BTW did anyone read the article on the Malaysian team in yesterday's EPG supplement in Berita Harian? (Malaysian Newspaper)
it had a nice feature and some pics... the cover pic was KKK, LCW and TBH...
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 11:46 AM
Please dont run out of topic or this thread might be closed.
How about they suck, and they won't win:p... that should stir things up by alot!!! The whole Malaysia group will not hesitate to attack me now...LOL.:D
samuel882
08-10-2007, 11:50 AM
Some one just would like to draw attractions here just as a small kids.. Wonder why dont he attack against any CHN or INA Players as well..
ye333
08-10-2007, 12:02 PM
Hehe. Hmm... Maybe that is why BWF let ZJW in? To stimulate CTF?
Anyway, I think C/F - C/L about 52:48. Cai/Fu stronger because of their mentality and fighting spirit.
I don't think cai/fu will get past ctf/lww cos it's at the QF stage and stamina factor will not count.ctf/lww may want to recall how they beat cai/fu in HKO06, ie play relax and don't burn up 80% of the fuel in the first game.Actually CTF would now be on an emotional high with ZJW's presence. Who knows he might be in such inspired form, ctf/lww may end up winning the WC title!
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 12:11 PM
Some one just would like to draw attractions here just as a small kids.. Wonder why dont he attack against any CHN or INA Players as well..
Drawing attention... Let see in at most 2 month time that you joined the forum, you posted over 650 times...hmmm...:rolleyes:
samuel882
08-10-2007, 12:16 PM
Dont count the number of posts here! At least i won't keeps on raising the fire here and there to anti-MAS (obviously) players !
pjswift
08-10-2007, 12:31 PM
Hehe. Hmm... Maybe that is why BWF let ZJW in? To stimulate CTF?
Anyway, I think C/F - C/L about 52:48. Cai/Fu stronger because of their mentality and fighting spirit.
It's interesting to note. First time LYB left powerless to dictate.
By the way, who did C/F lose to in MO07?
pjswift
08-10-2007, 12:35 PM
Dont count the number of posts here! At least i won't keeps on raising the fire here and there to anti-MAS (obviously) players !
Don't have to take bananaboy seriously. He likes to tickle and jiggle and wiggle.....
samuel882
08-10-2007, 12:37 PM
Don't have to take bananaboy seriously. He likes to tickle and jiggle and wiggle.....
Wonder when he can turn from BOY TO MAN .. LOLZ:D
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 12:54 PM
Wonder when he can turn from BOY TO MAN .. LOLZ:D
Funny how this is coming from the dude that went and cried for help from Kwun when he felt like being bullied through the internet... :rolleyes:
samuel882
08-10-2007, 12:59 PM
CRIED for help ?? Some 1 obviously doesn't respect others countries .. Does He deserved to be here ? Goto create a forum to anti MAS if u could .. Stop shouting here like a baby
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 01:07 PM
CRIED for help ?? Some 1 obviously doesn't respect others countries .. Does He deserved to be here ? Goto create a forum to anti MAS if u could .. Stop shouting here like a baby
Disrespect other countries... proof???:rolleyes:
Disrespect die-hard fans... well, then you don't need to find proof... I admit that...LOL.:D
who's shouting here.. really?
Out of everyone, you are definitely the easiest one to get angry... by the way... just to let you know a little thing, boy... as soon as you start to get angry, you already lost. You angry, high blood pressure... make me laugh, and have a nice day...LOL.
Plus, this is just an internet forum, and you already get so serious, I can't imagine how you will deal with other annoying people in real life. Yes, I am being annoying here, but it is just for fun..hahaha.
cooler
08-10-2007, 01:52 PM
Dont count the number of posts here! At least i won't keeps on raising the fire here and there to anti-MAS (obviously) players !
Please, we are not anti MAL-INA players. We are just concerned about the health and well being of MAL-INA die hard fans, to calm u guys down a bit in case MAL or INA results disappoint and then u guys don't go do something silly to yourself:eek::p If that require slapping u guys around a bit for a reality check, so be it:p hehe
samuel882
08-10-2007, 02:08 PM
yOU Are a easy forgotten BOY
Post no. #25
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...t=46414&page=2 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46414&page=2)
Does it calls "Respect" while claiming there will be a riots in a countries ?
Its does not worth to get angry with a little boy here through..
Nothing wrong for any person to become die-hard fans.. I am sure Badminton fans wouldnt do anything silly iF their players failed to achieve something they expected to.. Fans here will not the same like some of the craziest fans for actors/pop star. They will do silly things .. Such as to commit suicide iF the person whom they mad for is doing something against their wish..
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 02:38 PM
yOU Are a easy forgotten BOY
Post no. #25
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/foru...t=46414&page=2 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46414&page=2)
Does it calls "Respect" while claiming there will be a riots in a countries ?
Its does not worth to get angry with a little boy here through..
Nothing wrong for any person to become die-hard fans.. I am sure Badminton fans wouldnt do anything silly iF their players failed to achieve something they expected to.. Fans here will not the same like some of the craziest fans for actors/pop star. They will do silly things .. Such as to commit suicide iF the person whom they mad for is doing something against their wish..
Since when has bananaboy becomes a fortune teller??? You can't tell a sarcastic comment from a serious one???:rolleyes: Too bad then...:p
You say it is not worth getting angry over me, but the so-called proof you brought out showed exactly the opposite... you were p*ss off to say the least.:D and you were about to cry to mama... or papa...
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 02:43 PM
Bananaboy seldom says something nice...I know he is a die hard fans for China , just like me for CH,ZM or Zhang Ning...he needs to tone down his sarcastic and rude comments...also respect others.....
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 02:51 PM
Bananaboy seldom says something nice...I know he is a die hard fans for China , just like me for CH,ZM or Zhang Ning...he needs to tone down his sarcastic and rude comments...also respect others.....
I do say something nice once in a while, but it is often over-shadow by my rude comments...LOL
I don't see how you determine I am a die-hard fan for China???:confused: Intuition???:rolleyes: wow... I just realize that Gade, Wacha, Lee Dong Soo... and so on have just joined the Chinese National team!!!:eek:
You guys talk about "respect", but forget about "rights"... why not respect my right to talk as sarcastic and rude as I prefer???:confused:
samuel882
08-10-2007, 02:54 PM
Wonder is that a rules here to banned a "sarcastic" commenting from posting at BC?? I can said 95% of his post is an offensive & disrespect for others
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 02:55 PM
I do say something nice once in a while, but it is often over-shadow by my rude comments...LOL
I don't see how you determine I am a die-hard fan for China???:confused: Intuition???:rolleyes: wow... I just realize that Gade, Wacha, Lee Dong Soo... and so on have just joined the Chinese National team!!!:eek:
You guys talk about "respect", but forget about "rights"... why not respect my right to talk as sarcastic and rude as I prefer???:confused:
Why dont you say it and let see if you will be BANNED!!!....I do not think we need Rude comments here...
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 02:57 PM
Wonder is that a rules here to banned a "sarcastic" commenting from posting at BC?? I can said 95% of his post is an offensive & disrespect for others
So, you are suggest that every post should be a "Yes, I totally agree" kinda post... WOW!!! that must be exciting... why not just make this entire forum a "Poll" forum, where you only get to post either "Yes, I totally agree with you;)", or "Yes, I agree with you, Boleh!!!!!:cool:"
Where there is a nice guy, there must also be a jerk, to balance out this world.LOL:D
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 02:58 PM
Wonder is that a rules here to banned a "sarcastic" commenting from posting at BC?? I can said 95% of his post is an offensive & disrespect for others
I hope KWUN or CHEUNG need to monitor those posts.....I posted a word" L" ( for women on women) and got deleted....:(:(
SAMUEL, not sleeping yet???? I woke up already...:D:D just watching TV all nites
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 02:59 PM
I do say something nice once in a while, but it is often over-shadow by my rude comments...LOL
I don't see how you determine I am a die-hard fan for China???:confused: Intuition???:rolleyes: wow... I just realize that Gade, Wacha, Lee Dong Soo... and so on have just joined the Chinese National team!!!:eek:
You guys talk about "respect", but forget about "rights"... why not respect my right to talk as sarcastic and rude as I prefer???:confused:
Why dont you say it and let see if you will be BANNED!!!....I do not think we need Rude comments here...
I don't understand... what do you want me to say???:confused:
samuel882
08-10-2007, 03:00 PM
boy.. Sarcastic doesnt meant to agree with others comments.. But if u want to have ur own comments, opposed it in a well manner.. Not to be "RUDE" !
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 03:02 PM
I hope KWUN or CHEUNG need to monitor those posts.....I posted a word" L" ( for women on women) and got deleted....:(:(
SAMUEL, not sleeping yet???? I woke up already...:D:D just watching TV all nites
You are comparing a sarcastic comment with your "sexually" related word??? My goodness, and you wonder why your "L" word was deleted?:rolleyes:
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 03:03 PM
I don't understand... what do you want me to say???:confused:
If you want to keep those rude comments .............just be a bit nicer, Bananaboy...I think we are all here to make friends, right? ;);)..I am just excited to meet some of BCers in WC....eventhough I have met some in US already...:D
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 03:04 PM
boy.. Sarcastic doesnt meant to agree with others comments.. But if u want to have ur own comments, opposed it in a well manner.. Not to be "RUDE" !
My intention may be to be "challenging" your comment... but if you read it as "rude", that's up to you. You can take my comment as if I am challenging you to prove me wrong, or you can get angry because you think I am being rude to you... that's totally up to you.
samuel882
08-10-2007, 03:04 PM
I hope KWUN or CHEUNG need to monitor those posts.....I posted a word" L" ( for women on women) and got deleted....:(:(
SAMUEL, not sleeping yet???? I woke up already...:D:D just watching TV all nites
Can't hardly sleep .. Just back from bringing Tourist to chk in the hotel in somewhere outside MAS :D:D Plus excited about the coming WC in less than a week.. When will u be reaching KL?
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 03:06 PM
You are comparing a sarcastic comment with your "sexually" related word??? My goodness, and you wonder why your "L" word was deleted?:rolleyes:
Thats a word or a term....not sexually word...I remembered that I saw" F" word here and still got posted....you are not only sarcastic but very RUDE!!!!
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 03:10 PM
Can't hardly sleep .. Just back from bringing Tourist to chk in the hotel in somewhere outside MAS :D:D Plus excited about the coming WC in less than a week.. When will u be reaching KL?
Friday morning around 8 am....I have to stay overnite in singapore...I have scheduled my meetings and factory visits in china so I can escape for my weekend for WC...I met and chatted with Paul Walker, movie star of Fast and Furious...I did not know that he loves going to Indonesia and Borneo...he has been in sarawak and brunei..
bananaboy
08-10-2007, 03:10 PM
Thats a word or a term....not sexually word...I remembered that I saw" F" word here and still got posted....you are not only sarcastic but very RUDE!!!!
The "F" had not appeared in this thread, but somewhere else, and I think the one whom used the word was banned. "L" is sexually "sensitive", so it does make sense that it gets to be deleted.
My apology... I think I have enough fun... Like you said before, why take me seriously, when you know I sometimes post a bunch of non-sense... Been having a bad day... I know I should not build my happiness on other's pain, but it does make me happy though.
Anyways, I am selfish, and rude... but I will try to minimize that a little...Thanks for making me feel happier though.:D
samuel882
08-10-2007, 03:17 PM
Friday morning around 8 am....I have to stay overnite in singapore...I have scheduled my meetings and factory visits in china so I can escape for my weekend for WC...I met and chatted with Paul Walker, movie star of Fast and Furious...I did not know that he loves going to Indonesia and Borneo...he has been in sarawak and brunei..
Paul is a very cool actor..:D:D You should take a trip to Sarawak .. Nice place with many cool stuff to explore:);)
BAck to topic.. Who do u support iF KK/BH meets Luluk/Alven in WC?:rolleyes:
samuel882
08-10-2007, 03:18 PM
My apology... I think I have enough fun... Like you said before, why take me seriously, when you know I sometimes post a bunch of non-sense... Been having a bad day... I know I should not build my happiness on other's pain, but it does make me happy though.
Anyways, I am selfish, and rude... but I will try to minimize that a little...Thanks for making me feel happier though.:D
Hopes u can build on ur words:)
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 03:23 PM
Paul is a very cool actor..:D:D You should take a trip to Sarawak .. Nice place with many cool stuff to explore:);)
BAck to topic.. Who do u support iF KK/BH meets Luluk/Alven in WC?:rolleyes:
I was born in western borneo, 8 hrs by bus from Kucing....
I will support Luluk/Alvent but I thuink it is tough for them to beat KKK/TBH unless MAS MD got nervous cause of high pressure....honestly I have not seen them both of them LIVE.....
Paul Walker is a surfer dude as well as in some of martial arts..I forgot what it is....
huangkwokhau
08-10-2007, 03:24 PM
The "F" had not appeared in this thread, but somewhere else, and I think the one whom used the word was banned. "L" is sexually "sensitive", so it does make sense that it gets to be deleted.
My apology... I think I have enough fun... Like you said before, why take me seriously, when you know I sometimes post a bunch of non-sense... Been having a bad day... I know I should not build my happiness on other's pain, but it does make me happy though.
Anyways, I am selfish, and rude... but I will try to minimize that a little...Thanks for making me feel happier though.:D
If you do that...you can enlighten everybody's life.....
samuel882
08-10-2007, 03:29 PM
I was born in western borneo, 8 hrs by bus from Kucing....
I will support Luluk/Alvent but I thuink it is tough for them to beat KKK/TBH unless MAS MD got nervous cause of high pressure....honestly I have not seen them both of them LIVE.....
Paul Walker is a surfer dude as well as in some of martial arts..I forgot what it is....
I did saw KK/BH plays in live match once. They really makes the crowd "get into the games" .. Their stunts was amazing, Some of the way they retrieve a smashed shots from the opponents will makes the crowd suffering as "hearts - Attack" :D:D
hcyong
08-11-2007, 02:56 AM
Don't reply to trolls. They feed on replies.
Gitlis
08-11-2007, 04:03 AM
I can hardly believe posting such a thread could invite any respect. Why don't you celebrate the rise in ranking after it is really realized? This is childish and naive. Unfortunately I saw too many such threads in this forum.
For those who think CTF might play superman because of ZJW's presence, you might remind yourself of CTF/LWW's loss in SO2007, when ZJW was there.
hsengsping
08-11-2007, 04:15 AM
I can hardly believe posting such a thread could invite any respect. Why don't you celebrate the rise in ranking after it is really realized? This is childish and naive. Unfortunately I saw too many such threads in this forum.
For those who think CTF might play superman because of ZJW's presence, you might remind yourself of CTF/LWW's loss in SO2007, when ZJW was there.
There is a lot of partisanship in discussions on this site as you have come to realise. Grow up yourself.
If that is not to your liking don't read the thread. There is no question mark to the thread title because of partisanship and to foster livelier debate.
Gitlis
08-11-2007, 04:26 AM
Well, the discussion is really lively, especially when someone whines that others' sarcastic comments lack respect, and asks them to leave this forum.
I am curious how these folks grew up.
hcyong
08-11-2007, 04:34 AM
There is nothing wrong with the title. There are a lot of bold people here (they don't make predictions but declarations) who are made to eat their own words week in week out. (I am not one of the bold ones.)
hsengsping
08-11-2007, 04:39 AM
Well, the discussion is really lively, especially when someone whines that others' sarcastic comments lack respect, and asks them to leave this forum.
I am curious how these folks grew up.
I am glad you have sufficient insight to know sarcasm when you fling it around and nobody is asking for respect. Targeted sarcasm or an attack will invite a response quite appropriately. I am a little uncertain that about your English comprehension - nobody ask you to leave a forum: simply not to read a specific thread if it distressed you because of its partisanship beginning.
This is off topic and I do apologise for that.
Cheung
08-11-2007, 05:01 AM
Does closing the thread require a comment?
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