From The Star

Denmark pour scorn on Malaysian hopes

SUBANG JAYA: Malaysia have four men's doubles pairs in the World Championships but Denmark are sceptical about the host nations' ability to get a top podium finish.
Former world champion Jonas Rasmussen said that past results showed that Denmark were better when playing in major tournaments.
Malaysia's best efforts in the men's doubles of the world championships were three runners-up finishes – through Razif Sidek-Jalani Sidek (Beijing, 1987), Cheah Soon Kit-Soo Beng Kiang (Birmingham, 1993) and Soon Kit-Yap Kim Hock (Glasgow, 1997).
Denmark have produced two winners – Steen Fladberg-Jesper Helledie ( Copenhagen, 1983) and Rasmussen-Lars Paaske (Birmingham, 2003).
In the last championships in Madrid, they fell just short of making it an all-Danish final with Rasmussen-Paaske and their veteran team-mates, Jens Eriksen-Martin Lundgaard Hansen, bowing out in the semi-finals.
And their latest pair on the block – Simon Mollyhus-Anders Kristiansen, who recently got promoted into the national team – had beaten some of the top Malaysian pairs.
For the championships, Malaysia have Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong, Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah, Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazari-Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif and Ong Soon Hock-Tan Bin Shen in the fray.
The 29-year-old Rasmussen said that the Danes were mentally prepared for the challenge in Malaysia.
“The mental preparation for a world meet is important. Maybe, it is not best to have so much attention. We (the Danes) do not have so much of pressure like the Malaysians. We do not get the pressure if we do not win a medal. And I guess, it has worked well for us,” he said.
The talented Rasmussen, who will be making his sixth appearance in the championships, agreed that the top two seeds – Cai Yun-Fu Haifeng of China and Kien Keat-Boon Heong – are the pairs to beat.
“But I still think the race for the title is open. The top pairs have beaten each other. We can beat anyone on our good day and we are looking forward to a good showing,” he said. Rasmussen-Paaske are in the same half as Cai Yun-Haifeng, Tan Fook-Wan Wah, Indonesians Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan, Bin Shen-Soon Hock and the Indonesian-American combination of Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan.
Fighting talk from a player whose current form is ......:rolleyes:but a good insight into the self believe and psychological edge of some players. Malaysian players even in good form often soft pedal and lack self belief at least when viewed from press commentary. Malaysians often talk about beating one good pair, QF, SF F, not in form so don't expect much, etc. Interesting.

Stern Warning from a former MD World Champions.. Rising the alert on MAS MD PAir..

“The mental preparation for a world meet is important. Maybe, it is not best to have so much attention. We (the Danes) do not have so much of pressure like the Malaysians. We do not get the pressure if we do not win a medal. And I guess, it has worked well for us,” he said.

As Jonas said above, and I have been saying the same thing too...fans should not pile so much unnecessary pressure and attention on MAS players, that they will win and kick CHN butt and so on...leave the talking on the court...In the past, whenever fans promote attention on MAS players that they will win, it backfires...that is why I think CJ is flying under the radar with hardly anyone mentioning him, as a player I would rather be in his position...TH and LD had already won WC, LCW is in an excellent position to win this one, but the pressure is very high and with fans saying out loud, he will win, and should LCW fails, these fans would have stuck a foot in their mouth....;)

“The mental preparation for a world meet is important. Maybe, it is not best to have so much attention. We (the Danes) do not have so much of pressure like the Malaysians. We do not get the pressure if we do not win a medal. And I guess, it has worked well for us,” he said.

As Jonas said above, and I have been saying the same thing too...fans should not pile so much unnecessary pressure and attention on MAS players, that they will win and kick CHN butt and so on...leave the talking on the court...In the past, whenever fans promote attention on MAS players that they will win, it backfires...that is why I think CJ is flying under the radar with hardly anyone mentioning him, as a player I would rather be in his position...TH and LD had already won WC, LCW is in an excellent position to win this one, but the pressure is very high and with fans saying out loud, he will win, and should LCW fails, these fans would have stuck a foot in their mouth....;)


If there was pressure this enclosed pic tells a lie. All is well : everyone is feeling good; the training is spot on; everyone is showing no signs of being pressured. The attitudes are positive and simply 'ready to go'.

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Rexy is trying to tell the guys they will win. He is predicting 4 semi-finalists. We are not concerned with pressure. Pressure is something the guys can handle. It is like an exam, if you are well prepared, you can handle any pressure. The guys know all they need to do is go in to win and most importantly, they have their fans behind them.

No Pressure No urgency
It is true there is no pressure on the Danes but because there is no pressure, they won't win. There will be no urgency in the way they play and we know that it will not be good.

If there was pressure this enclosed pic tells a lie. All is well : everyone is feeling good; the training is spot on; everyone is showing no signs of being pressured. The attitudes are positive and simply 'ready to go'.

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Rexy is trying to tell the guys they will win. He is predicting 4 semi-finalists. We are not concerned with pressure. Pressure is something the guys can handle. It is like an exam, if you are well prepared, you can handle any pressure. The guys know all they need to do is go in to win and most importantly, they have their fans behind them.

No Pressure No urgency
It is true there is no pressure on the Danes but because there is no pressure, they won't win. There will be no urgency in the way they play and we know that it will not be good.
Being a Malaysian myself, I dearly would love to see both LCW and TBH/KKK win WC....wouldn't you concur that LCW played loosely (no pressure) and his best in IO07 in post-MiaoMiao era when least is expected from him to win. In TC06 and WC06, when he was ranked no.1, he succumbed to the pressure and lost. Same for KKK/TBH when they were first formed, people were cursing Rexy for splitting up CCM/KKK right before AG, and the rest is history as the two boys went on to win AE. The same pressure and extremely high expectation applies to LD in OG08, that is why I prefer CJ position in OG08, CJ would gain one more year of experience, while LD/PG/TH/LCW are one year older.
Maybe because I get nervous with all these talks of "kicking CHN's butt, LCW will win, etc.", if I am LYB, I would post these words in the locker room to fire up and inspire my players. Could be you are very confident and if it comes through then you look like a winner...if it don't, well what's you gonna say, after all LCW has all the ideal conditions he could possibly ask for...good draw, homecourt, fans (like you, Pswift, etc) support, fit and sharp, good form lately, speed, etc...and most importantly, he may have to face only LD or TH, CJ or CY and not both to win...I understand you and others could not hide your passion and it is a long wait for WC to unfolds...better do all the cheering/screamiing in the stadium where it counts, even if you need "liong char" (cooling herbs), hahaha!!! Anyway, I envy you guys seeing the whole WC at home while we poor guys got screwed around with the livescoring and hopefully, some web broadcast, still cannot beat the real live action though as I seen that in Anaheim...pray hard for your wish to come through...Cheers!!!:D:)

The players are not going to read any newspaper.

The players are not going to read any newspaper.
Oh Really?? :eek: They "Barred" mas players to read any newspaper at all?:mad:

Hahaha doesn't matter what Jonas and all those guys say, because TC (TEAM CHINA) is gonna take it all =) biased i know, but as a fan i must

Oh Really?? :eek: They "Barred" mas players to read any newspaper at all?:mad:


No one barred anyone from reading. They just chose not to do so, at the Sports section i mean.

Being a Malaysian myself, I dearly would love to see both LCW and TBH/KKK win WC....wouldn't you concur that LCW played loosely (no pressure) and his best in IO07 in post-MiaoMiao era when least is expected from him to win. In TC06 and WC06, when he was ranked no.1, he succumbed to the pressure and lost. Same for KKK/TBH when they were first formed, people were cursing Rexy for splitting up CCM/KKK right before AG, and the rest is history as the two boys went on to win AE. The same pressure and extremely high expectation applies to LD in OG08, that is why I prefer CJ position in OG08, CJ would gain one more year of experience, while LD/PG/TH/LCW are one year older.
Maybe because I get nervous with all these talks of "kicking CHN's butt, LCW will win, etc.", if I am LYB, I would post these words in the locker room to fire up and inspire my players. Could be you are very confident and if it comes through then you look like a winner...if it don't, well what's you gonna say, after all LCW has all the ideal conditions he could possibly ask for...good draw, homecourt, fans (like you, Pswift, etc) support, fit and sharp, good form lately, speed, etc...and most importantly, he may have to face only LD or TH, CJ or CY and not both to win...I understand you and others could not hide your passion and it is a long wait for WC to unfolds...better do all the cheering/screamiing in the stadium where it counts, even if you need "liong char" (cooling herbs), hahaha!!! Anyway, I envy you guys seeing the whole WC at home while we poor guys got screwed around with the livescoring and hopefully, some web broadcast, still cannot beat the real live action though as I seen that in Anaheim...pray hard for your wish to come through...Cheers!!!:D:)

I did not disagree with your opinion pressure is bad for LCW or Malaysian players. Pressure certainly can do that. What I am saying is that there is no pressure at all this time round. LCW does not feel pressure so much so Misbun has to put some on him :)

As reported, there is a serene calm --- I guess you can call it the lull before the storm. But really, I think the players are reported to be happy, relaxed, training well, uperturbed by our frenzies here, and looking forward to show off in the WC.

Yes, all the players are relaxed and no pressure. The Fans are pressured now. hahah

Hahaha doesn't matter what Jonas and all those guys say, because TC (TEAM CHINA) is gonna take it all =) biased i know, but as a fan i must

I would not have enjoyed my comments here without the likes of you otherwise.

Team China is definitely the team to challenge the 'Dream Team 2007', which is MALAYSIA.:D

Yes, all the players are relaxed and no pressure. The Fans are pressured now. hahah

Chinese and Indonesian ones.:D

Let's see whether the experience Jonas and his compatriots can spring a surprise here! Sometimes underdog position is advantage particularly in huge event, nothing to lose for them just show their best performances in every match.

One statement from Jonas is really clear, "The race for the title is still open..."
It means every participant has a chance to win it because no certain thing in sport competition like maths formula.

Makes me wonder, during 30 years and 15 editions of WC why MAS as one of badminton powerhouse never won any title? Bad fortune or what?

fans should not pile so much unnecessary pressure and attention on MAS players, that they will win and kick CHN butt and so on...leave the talking on the court...In the past, whenever fans promote attention on MAS players that they will win, it backfires...

good players should handle these pressure accordingly, that;s what makes a good player. As always... Malaysian players lack of training in this area, but i think it's getting better.

Makes me wonder, during 30 years and 15 editions of WC why MAS as one of badminton powerhouse never won any title? Bad fortune or what?

Just do not have that clear frontrunner.

Let's see whether the experience Jonas and his compatriots can spring a surprise here! Sometimes underdog position is advantage particularly in huge event, nothing to lose for them just show their best performances in every match.

One statement from Jonas is really clear, "The race for the title is still open..."
It means every participant has a chance to win it because no certain thing in sport competition like maths formula.

Makes me wonder, during 30 years and 15 editions of WC why MAS as one of badminton powerhouse never won any title? Bad fortune or what?

It has to do with a lot of factors, e.g. planning, dedication, spending money, etc. Maybe MAS never got everything right. But I think the time has come (I think most Malaysians can feel it --- the big drums will be out on the day !).

The key problem is the coaches. They talk too much and reveal insecurities. Why analyse draws to death when upsets are the norm these days?The last few tournaments indicate how shaky CHN MS has been , that there's something not right in the squad. Yet the stereotype thinking persists.And it's very sad that Rexy has to suggest that the other MAS MDs play as spoilers for KKK/TBH .What kind of champion would that be?
As for the Danes talk, they do that before every WC. It's because they fear MAS MDs.The past is past and so long ago. This has been a breakthrough year (and it has nothing to do with MAS 50th birthday;when are they going to stop that silly sentiment?) MAS has won many hard-fought titles: MO07,AE07, SO07,IO07,PO07....Has MAS ever won so many titles in just the first 7 months of the year? If the past must be raked up,do it in perspective;do a trend analysis.

Makes me wonder, during 30 years and 15 editions of WC why MAS as one of badminton powerhouse never won any title? Bad fortune or what?
I don't know about 15-30 years ago but as far as I started to follow badminton and talk about it with my fellow Malaysian, none of anyone I met consider our Malaysian Badminton team as one of the powerhouse. At least nothing like China, Indonesia or perhaps Korea in their great times. The most heard about is we lack of talented and by the same time consistent player that played for so many years compare to their chinese counterpart. If somehow we have someone great, like Misbun, Rashid or now LCW, the national number 2 is far behind and so with the number 3 to the number 2 and to the junior teams. Though i must make it cleat that we still like Foo Kok Keong, Yong Hock Kin, Lee Tsuen Seng, Wong Chong Hann, Roslin, Hafiz and many of these players, but deep down we know that or at least, think that they lack of something to be a true champion. And their result is the undeniable fact. The terms "jaguh kampung", "pasukan orang tua" is nothing new in the media for which you get an idea how much disbelief we have in our own player. My point is we never really deemed ourself to be the powerhouse and thus, no one really questioned about why we never won the World Championship. A similar dilemma i can think of is how many fans love BCL but they never got it to their head that BCL should be crown the "legend" instead of LD or TH. We just enjoy the badminton they plays and cheers along when they have their shots.

And for so long, result for this recent months tell us we never been so close like this time. KKK/TBH, LCW show good result and getting more consistent compare to our ex-player. Second team like CTF/LWW, Fairuz/Zakry are not so far behind. This could be a false alarm but for all I know, I sincerely see great hope in them this time, since the MD olympic final by YKH/CSK. I truly believe that they can win the first Olympic gold for Malaysia that time and I consider them to be consistent to have reach the final.

And if someday that we agree on Malaysia being a Badminton Powerhouse, I would say it start at the era of LCW and KKK/TBH. The juniors had never been so compromising before.

Good luck to Malaysia team, give your best. Win all you can and if lose, at least at semifinal stage and give your opponent one hell of a time. And keep coming back to at least final or win some on coming events, then we know we are different now.

My RM0.02 worth and pardon my bad english.

Makes me wonder, during 30 years and 15 editions of WC why MAS as one of badminton powerhouse never won any title? Bad fortune or what?
I don't know about 15-30 years ago but as far as I started to follow badminton and talk about it with my fellow Malaysian, none of anyone I met consider our Malaysian Badminton team as one of the powerhouse. At least nothing like China, Indonesia or perhaps Korea in their great times. The most heard about is we lack of talented and by the same time consistent player that played for so many years compare to their chinese counterpart. If somehow we have someone great, like Misbun, Rashid or now LCW, the national number 2 is far behind and so with the number 3 to the number 2 and to the junior teams. Though i must make it cleat that we still like Foo Kok Keong, Yong Hock Kin, Lee Tsuen Seng, Wong Chong Hann, Roslin, Hafiz and many of these players, but deep down we know that or at least, think that they lack of something to be a true champion. And their result is the undeniable fact. The terms "jaguh kampung", "pasukan orang tua" is nothing new in the media for which you get an idea how much disbelief we have in our own player. My point is we never really deemed ourself to be the powerhouse and thus, no one really questioned about why we never won the World Championship. A similar dilemma i can think of is how many fans love BCL but they never got it to their head that BCL should be crown the "legend" instead of LD or TH. We just enjoy the badminton they plays and cheers along when they have their shots.

And for so long, result for this recent months tell us we never been so close like this time. KKK/TBH, LCW show good result and getting more consistent compare to our ex-player. Second team like CTF/LWW, Fairuz/Zakry are not so far behind. This could be a false alarm but for all I know, I sincerely see great hope in them this time, since the MD olympic final by YKH/CSK. I truly believe that they can win the first Olympic gold for Malaysia that time and I consider them to be consistent to have reach the final.

And if someday that we agree on Malaysia being a Badminton Powerhouse, I would say it start at the era of LCW and KKK/TBH. The juniors had never been so compromising before.

Good luck to Malaysia team, give your best. Win all you can and if lose, at least at semifinal stage and give your opponent one hell of a time. And keep coming back to at least final or win some on coming events, then we know we are different now.

My RM0.02 worth and pardon my bad english.

don't agree with V3i HoN6 (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/vb/member.php?u=25821). I think that the term badminton powerhouse dosent mean that you are the strongest nation, but one of the stronger nations. Considering that we are frequently on par or even better than countries such as Denmark, Indonesia and China to some extent in SS events, or 5* events, its a wonder how we never had a world champion, when those countries have had many world champs before...

It's alright and it is just my opinion as an outsider.
But I sincerely don't think we are "FREQUENTLY ON PAR or EVEN BETTER than INDONESIA and CHINA". I wouldn't even dare to say Indonesian team is on par with China team. I really beg to differ on the words "frequent" and "on par". On par with denmark maybe.

I mean, come on, over the past 30 years, Thomas Cup, All England, Olympic games, Asian Games showed us everything that we need to know.

Thomas cup, once for over 35 years. 1992
All England Men Single, once for over 35 years. 2003
All England Men Double, twice for over 35 years. 1982, 2007
Asian Games Men Double, once for over 35 years. 2007
Asian Games Men Single, never
Asian Games Men Team, never
Olympic Games Men Single, never
Olympic Games Men Double, never
Olympic Games Men Team, never
And I leave the Sudirman Cup for good since it involves women and mix.
And of this 5 important champion titles, 2 of them is by KK/BH which i consider the start of a new era of Malaysia badminton. I don't know if China or Indonesia team have grab over 5 thomas cup, 5 asian games champion, 5 All Englad, 5 World Championship over the last 35 years.

Consider the WC has only 30 years history and is over the good old era of Malaysia, is it really any wonder how we never had a world championship?
So how frequent is actually frequent when we talk about world champion?
How big of a difference is actually consider on par? The sum of all these big events equal to 1 particular event of China team or INA team?

Perhaps you are taking about SS events only which i think only started this 2-3 years if i'm not mistaken. And yes based on the SS event, it's safe to say we are pretty good but aren't that also in the period of LCW, KKK/TBH era? And to based on the recent 2 years result as to considered Malaysia the Badminton Powerhouse, isn't it the word taken too lightly?

have to Agree with you V3i_Hong on this Point : A new era start by MAS Badminton leading by KK/BH..
The rising of them may spurred many MAS juniors to success in any future events.. As we can see TCS/Chan Kwong Beng and a couple of Young MAS MD pair produce a creditable results in satellite tournaments recently. They might facing some tough draw in the opening round in the SS by the possibility of meeting top players like LD/TH/CH etc.. However it is a path needs to be going through for young guns like them to achieve similar success or even greater than their Seniors ..

The Danes have the right to make such statement as it is true that Malaysia has not been faring well in big tournament like World Championship from the past, as a matter of fact, we have not win any title in this tournament !!!
We will tell the Danes after our players proof them otherwise.

what i said was 'frequently on par or even better than countries such as Denmark, Indonesia and China to some extent' Denmark has never won a Thomas cup before, and I wouldn't argue about Indonesia's dominance in the 90s and early 2000s... and i said China TO SOME EXTENT. I'm merely saying that together with China, Indonesia and Denmark, Malaysia has always been viewed as one of the badminton powerhouses, and one of the 3 countries that have ever lifted the Thomas Cup...

Yes, all the players are relaxed and no pressure. The Fans are pressured now. hahah
lol,true true.
I'm pressured now...

The Danes have the right to make such statement as it is true that Malaysia has not been faring well in big tournament like World Championship from the past, as a matter of fact, we have not win any title in this tournament !!!
We will tell the Danes after our players proof them otherwise.
Of course the danes have the right to say anything they want. Question is 'Why do they single out MAS to deflate again?'
I wish i have datamining skills so i can lift up relevant data to support my point but can someone do the favour of showing , for the last 10 tournaments they played,who have stopped the top 2 DEN MDs ? If I remember correctly, most of the time, they have lost to MAS MDs.
By the way, have the DEN MDs won any title this year yet? If they have not won even one yet, maybe they should work more and talk less?

Yes, all the players are relaxed and no pressure. The Fans are pressured now. hahah
Nice to hear that...confess as a MAS supporter, I am a bit nervous cos' I really like to see MAS win both MS and MD, the other events are long, long shots.

Last year, when Eriksen said something along the line of... there is no way any Malaysian pair will win in the world championship...

Correct me if I am wrong... but didn't it come true???:eek: They have 100% accuracy(hey, 1 out of 1 is 100%:p) so far, and people are having doubts about their ability to foretold the future???:rolleyes: Whereas Misbun has been wrong(0% accuracy except predicting Hafiz will lose, which I can do as well:p) about Hafiz since the beginning of this year(especially Korean SS, where he thought Hafiz was coming back:p), but now all you people believe what Misbun says, but not the Danes... LOL.:D

But the DAnes MD pair did not win WC last year Either.. It Proves that they should lets the results speak ! Don't speak about others chances.. They should Get ready themselves for this coming WC instead !

But the DAnes MD pair did not win WC last year Either.. It Proves that they should lets the results speak ! Don't speak about others chances.. They should Get ready themselves for this coming WC instead !

They did say their own biggest hurdle was Fu/Cai, which they were right again, and they lost to Fu/Cai in the semi-finals...

So I guess they were 2 for 2... LOL.:cool:

It's alright and it is just my opinion as an outsider.
But I sincerely don't think we are "FREQUENTLY ON PAR or EVEN BETTER than INDONESIA and CHINA". I wouldn't even dare to say Indonesian team is on par with China team. I really beg to differ on the words "frequent" and "on par". On par with denmark maybe.

I mean, come on, over the past 30 years, Thomas Cup, All England, Olympic games, Asian Games showed us everything that we need to know.

Thomas cup, once for over 35 years. 1992
All England Men Single, once for over 35 years. 2003
All England Men Double, twice for over 35 years. 1982, 2007
Asian Games Men Double, once for over 35 years. 2007
Asian Games Men Single, never
Asian Games Men Team, never
Olympic Games Men Single, never
Olympic Games Men Double, never
Olympic Games Men Team, never
And I leave the Sudirman Cup for good since it involves women and mix.
And of this 5 important champion titles, 2 of them is by KK/BH which i consider the start of a new era of Malaysia badminton. I don't know if China or Indonesia team have grab over 5 thomas cup, 5 asian games champion, 5 All Englad, 5 World Championship over the last 35 years.

Consider the WC has only 30 years history and is over the good old era of Malaysia, is it really any wonder how we never had a world championship?
So how frequent is actually frequent when we talk about world champion?
How big of a difference is actually consider on par? The sum of all these big events equal to 1 particular event of China team or INA team?

Perhaps you are taking about SS events only which i think only started this 2-3 years if i'm not mistaken. And yes based on the SS event, it's safe to say we are pretty good but aren't that also in the period of LCW, KKK/TBH era? And to based on the recent 2 years result as to considered Malaysia the Badminton Powerhouse, isn't it the word taken too lightly?
I have a big problem with your use of the word 'never'. Perhaps you've been influenced by BCF Tournaments 2008 where 'NEVER' appears throughout under 'last post' column except for one 'cooler'.(gee, I better remember not to post there again so cooler can remain special!)
'Never' suggests you already know the future and you've decided against MAS. I don't believe that's your intention. Maybe better to use 'Not yet' which implies 'anything can happen'.
I enjoy history but more to learn from it or to track progress or patterns.
SS only started this year and wreak havoc on LYB's spoiler strategy so LYB is less bossy now cos of lack of opportunities.

You could say that MAS is not a powerhouse because it has won few substantial titles. On the other hand, how many powerhouses are there? If 5, then if MAS is not one of them (in men's department), who else?

With such a dominant force as CHN, it is hard for other powerhouses to win major titles unless you have special ones like Taufik or Park Joo Bong or Emms/Robertson. You could strike lucky once in a while but I guess MAS did not have the luck and also did not have a special one.

MAS is slowing catching up.. Give the young guns some times.. There will be more success from them.. Especially from the Hot Sensation KK/BH..

They did say their own biggest hurdle was Fu/Cai, which they were right again, and they lost to Fu/Cai in the semi-finals...
So I guess they were 2 for 2... LOL.:cool:
People are free to voice out their so-called "predictions".
Well, people always find excuses when things turn out to be the opposite. This is called "自圆其说", I guess. No need to argue but just wait & see.

Of course the danes have the right to say anything they want. Question is 'Why do they single out MAS to deflate again?'

Pre tournament psychological tactics! It happens in many sports;)

Do u listen to what Denmark team said to malaysian press last night?
Gade seems very confident with himself to let down LCW in QF.
in contrary,Erikkssen-hansen said if they capable to be in QF,it is good enough.as one of them is injured(i dont remember which one)
So,if Denmark want to 'pour scorn to malaysian hopes",make sure their player is working on their propagenda well enough..

i remember coz i saw yesterday interview... it is Martin Lundgaard Hansen

i remember coz i saw yesterday interview... it is Martin Lundgaard Hansen
Oh REally? too bad for getting injured for the wrong time ! Wonder will they bounced back after MLH fully recovered frm Injured.
I fink the beneficial will be KOR Pair of JJS/LYD..

He's not badly injured actually.He's just not in the fittest state he should be.But he can perform.

Or mayb it is a psychology trick plays by DEN. However, big applauds must be given to this Dannish pair as i believe they are the oldest players ranking among top ten in any category for badminton at the moment !

Or mayb it is a psychology trick plays by DEN. However, big applauds must be given to this Dannish pair as i believe they are the oldest players ranking among top ten in any category for badminton at the moment !

they're almost 4O Years old... unbelievable :D

Or mayb it is a psychology trick plays by DEN. However, big applauds must be given to this Dannish pair as i believe they are the oldest players ranking among top ten in any category for badminton at the moment !
That can be a possibility and i dont realise it.

That can be a possibility and i dont realise it.


I think Denmark team very cheezed off by the dirty tricks of BWF & MAS team. So also the other teams like England, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan...

I heard my friend that although teams paid hotel fully long before competition starts, there were no hotel rooms when they arrived. The CHN team moved to another hotel. Also the ENG team. HK team was moved to another hotel and only later move back. Very messy.

Also training courts are hard wood on cement floor. Courts in hotel and Michael Badminton Academy only suitable for non professional players.

That even though MAS trg courts not allowed to be used for training by other teams.

I heard all teams said they will give MAS team lousy courts and little practice time next time MAS team goes to their country for competition.

Why our country do this ? With home advantage of playing more on competition court, ok lah. But treat other teams like that no good. We must win clean and not cheat cheat. If we cannot use those courts for training, we cannot give to other teams.

We want to be good host and be clean. Don;t want people to say we cheat like in Asian Junior.

I think Denmark team very cheezed off by the dirty tricks of BWF & MAS team. So also the other teams like England, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan...

I heard my friend that although teams paid hotel fully long before competition starts, there were no hotel rooms when they arrived. The CHN team moved to another hotel. Also the ENG team. HK team was moved to another hotel and only later move back. Very messy.

Also training courts are hard wood on cement floor. Courts in hotel and Michael Badminton Academy only suitable for non professional players.

That even though MAS trg courts not allowed to be used for training by other teams.

I heard all teams said they will give MAS team lousy courts and little practice time next time MAS team goes to their country for competition.

Why our country do this ? With home advantage of playing more on competition court, ok lah. But treat other teams like that no good. We must win clean and not cheat cheat. If we cannot use those courts for training, we cannot give to other teams.

We want to be good host and be clean. Don;t want people to say we cheat like in Asian Junior.

If what you say is true, then if KKK/TBH cant win the WC, there should really be no more excuses!

I think Denmark team very cheezed off by the dirty tricks of BWF & MAS team. So also the other teams like England, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan...

I heard my friend that although teams paid hotel fully long before competition starts, there were no hotel rooms when they arrived. The CHN team moved to another hotel. Also the ENG team. HK team was moved to another hotel and only later move back. Very messy.

Also training courts are hard wood on cement floor. Courts in hotel and Michael Badminton Academy only suitable for non professional players.

That even though MAS trg courts not allowed to be used for training by other teams.

I heard all teams said they will give MAS team lousy courts and little practice time next time MAS team goes to their country for competition.

Why our country do this ? With home advantage of playing more on competition court, ok lah. But treat other teams like that no good. We must win clean and not cheat cheat. If we cannot use those courts for training, we cannot give to other teams.

We want to be good host and be clean. Don;t want people to say we cheat like in Asian Junior.
If the issues about court time is both true and not in keeping with international standards then I think there is cause for disquiet about fairness.

If this inadequate courts issue is common place because of too many players of too many nationalities involved in WC, and courts assigned according to nationality, then hard luck.

I think Denmark team very cheezed off by the dirty tricks of BWF & MAS team. So also the other teams like England, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan...

I heard my friend that although teams paid hotel fully long before competition starts, there were no hotel rooms when they arrived. The CHN team moved to another hotel. Also the ENG team. HK team was moved to another hotel and only later move back. Very messy.

Also training courts are hard wood on cement floor. Courts in hotel and Michael Badminton Academy only suitable for non professional players.

That even though MAS trg courts not allowed to be used for training by other teams.

I heard all teams said they will give MAS team lousy courts and little practice time next time MAS team goes to their country for competition.

Why our country do this ? With home advantage of playing more on competition court, ok lah. But treat other teams like that no good. We must win clean and not cheat cheat. If we cannot use those courts for training, we cannot give to other teams.

We want to be good host and be clean. Don;t want people to say we cheat like in Asian Junior.
Before u are post that statement ,make sure it is not a groundless statement.
It could be very sensitive and other ppl might assume it is a fact.
If u are saying the truth,it seems mas team is really 'mean'.
But,dont u think,we are also the victims by IBF(according to Ganga's case??)

For PEMUDA,my kkk-tbh is a winner.
They maybe not a champion in WC(maybe...)
They are still the winner in my heart.Always..
Say anything bad about them after this and u will get it from me.

I think Denmark team very cheezed off by the dirty tricks of BWF & MAS team. So also the other teams like England, Hong Kong, China, Korea, Japan...

Also training courts are hard wood on cement floor. Courts in hotel and Michael Badminton Academy only suitable for non professional players.

That even though MAS trg courts not allowed to be used for training by other teams.



I dont think there are any tricks played by msian team.....msian team meanin coaches& players......is it a dirty tactic by BAM or just unprofessional event management by BAM is another matter....

As far as i knw, there shouldnt be any complains abt the training courts......during the MO2007, players trained at stadium juara and also MBA at puchong.....

I dont believe any team is training at hotel courts as you mentioned....and MAS training courts are being used by players fr other team....FYI, stadium juara and MBA at puchong is part of MAS training courts.....if you are talkin abt gym 2 at bukit jalil then i dont thinks NSC will let outsiders train there

I dont think there are any tricks played by msian team.....msian team meanin coaches& players......is it a dirty tactic by BAM or just unprofessional event management by BAM is another matter....

As far as i knw, there shouldnt be any complains abt the training courts......during the MO2007, players trained at stadium juara and also MBA at puchong.....

I dont believe any team is training at hotel courts as you mentioned....and MAS training courts are being used by players fr other team....FYI, stadium juara and MBA at puchong is part of MAS training courts.....if you are talkin abt gym 2 at bukit jalil then i dont thinks NSC will let outsiders train there

I read across this news and coach Yap has addressed the compliant from Team Denmark that BAM is following the rule book about time given to each team on playing avenue. Team China also has the same amount of time to accomodate themselves and are quite happy with the court condition. Every body wants special treatment and if the host comply to team Denmark then you can assure more compliant will be filed by other nations. Just stick to the rule book is the right thing to do. And please, no more mind playing game, just play ball!!

Every tournament there is a complaint for sure. Nothing new in this case. Heheh

I read across this news and coach Yap has addressed the compliant from Team Denmark that BAM is following the rule book about time given to each team on playing avenue. Team China also has the same amount of time to accomodate themselves and are quite happy with the court condition. Every body wants special treatment and if the host comply to team Denmark then you can assure more compliant will be filed by other nations. Just stick to the rule book is the right thing to do. And please, no more mind playing game, just play ball!!

I fink u r right! Han.
Every tournament have their own rules. Being a host, should not be question of where/when their train. DENMARK could always launch a bid to host the future WC if the feel are being treated badly for the poor hospitality of MAS here.
It is fair & share games. BAM do not needs to play it dirty. Being acccomodate into the court conditions as early will not guarantee u a successful results in the later stages for this WC.

I have a big problem with your use of the word 'never'. Perhaps you've been influenced by BCF Tournaments 2008 where 'NEVER' appears throughout under 'last post' column except for one 'cooler'.(gee, I better remember not to post there again so cooler can remain special!)
'Never' suggests you already know the future and you've decided against MAS. I don't believe that's your intention. Maybe better to use 'Not yet' which implies 'anything can happen'.
I enjoy history but more to learn from it or to track progress or patterns.
SS only started this year and wreak havoc on LYB's spoiler strategy so LYB is less bossy now cos of lack of opportunities.
I'm sorry if the word "never" seems inappropriate but you get what I mean as you don't truly believe I already know the future right.?:p

Anyway I did mention "over the last 35 years" and wouldn't this excluding the future, and before the 35 years time frame? As some of the "never" here is limited to truly "over the last 35 years" as we may had got it before that. Thanks for correcting me.

I'm sorry if the word "never" seems inappropriate but you get what I mean as you don't truly believe I already know the future right.?:p

Anyway I did mention "over the last 35 years" and wouldn't this excluding the future, and before the 35 years time frame? As some of the "never" here is limited to truly "over the last 35 years" as we may had got it before that. Thanks for correcting me.
Sorry I wish I could be more tactful but it's not meant to be an English lesson.
Once I used to love using the word 'never' until I was told never to use the word 'never' unless I'm sure of the future.

Every tournament there is a complaint for sure. Nothing new in this case. Heheh
Agree. Usually the ones who complain are less confident and ready to lose.Anyway why should BWF or BAM be responsible for the accommodation? Courts, yes.Rooms? Last year in Madrid, BAM arranged accm and training facilities direct.If it's that important, I can only blame myself if I trust someone else to do it and things don't turn out like a dream.

Agree. Usually the ones who complain are less confident and ready to lose.Anyway why should BWF or BAM be responsible for the accommodation? Courts, yes.Rooms? Last year in Madrid, BAM arranged accm and training facilities direct.If it's that important, I can only blame myself if I trust someone else to do it and things don't turn out like a dream.
We are not even sure of the dissatisfaction by the Danes yet.
Perhaps they were let down on requesting more training time on court.

Sorry I wish I could be more tactful but it's not meant to be an English lesson.
Once I used to love using the word 'never' until I was told never to use the word 'never' unless I'm sure of the future.
Whatever man, Thanks for correcting me.
:)

For PEMUDA,my kkk-tbh is a winner.
They maybe not a champion in WC(maybe...)
They are still the winner in my heart.Always..
Say anything bad about them after this and u will get it from me.

Yes, yes winner of the Philippine Open. ;)

Lets see how they perform in the WC where all the big boys are.