I had recently gotten an Armortec 900 Technique, 4U G4. I had heard from some friends that the 4U is has a really really weak frame and if I hit a frame shot it has a high chance of breaking. Is this true? And is the 3U more durable than the 4U?

Thanks a lot! ^^

4Us in general is more fragile than the 3U. In the case of the AT900, 3U is the popular weight version (I have 3UG5 JP).

All else being equal:

Heavier frame = more material (or denser) = greater structural strength.

I had asked for the 3U but he had given me a 4U.... =[
Gonna call him and ask if I can exchange...lololololol

What is your grip size?

G4 with wine red overgrip

I am assuming you purchased this from an authorized dealer, which would be CD coded. In this case, the AT900s, G4 and G5 only comes in 4U while 3U only comes in G3.

I broke a 4U before too..And yes you are rite about the density of the materials to the frame..

I have friend that are using 4U and it is fine, However they take extra caution.

i own one technique 3ug5 and tried friend's power 4ug4
totally different feeling, is this the same between 3ug5 technique and 4ug5 technique?

i own one technique 3ug5 and tried friend's power 4ug4
totally different feeling, is this the same between 3ug5 technique and 4ug5 technique?

No because they are two different weights. Also, with less material inside the racket on the 4U, the more flexable and fragile the racket would be.

totally different feeling, is this the same between 3ug5 technique and 4ug5 technique?
3U is a lil heavier than 4U,
3U is able to generate more power since it is heavier but not so good for defence.
4U is lighter & has easy to swing, but not as strong as 3U.

Both 3U and 4U have very different feeling...

3U is not as fast as 4U but with the right technique you can defend a 3U like a 4U..

Just like me I tend to over swing with my strokes therefore a heavier racket will give me the accuracy that I need.It is imperative that you know your stroke well.Just like my friend he cant play a 3U as his stroke is much slower.Therefore, he he needs a racket that gives his access to a faster swing.

I very much agree that 4U is not as durable as 3U.That what i feel so it is your call in what you want..

In terms of power, it depends on your fitness and stroke.Of course the 3U is more powerful but if you are able to swing fast the 4U would be good too.

Oh! Okay thanks guys! ^^

I am assuming you purchased this from an authorized dealer, which would be CD coded. In this case, the AT900s, G4 and G5 only comes in 4U while 3U only comes in G3.
I think 3U actually comes in all 3 grip sizes... it's that way for every other racquet, so I'm assuming this is true for the AT900T.

yes, it may come in all 3 gripsizes (maybe even all 5)..but it's up to the distributor to decide whicht hey're going to import.

In Holland, for example, 4U's are very rare. 4UG3 almost impossible

I think 3U actually comes in all 3 grip sizes... it's that way for every other racquet, so I'm assuming this is true for the AT900T.

Unforunately it does not. Yonex Canada officially brings in 4UG4 and 5, and 3UG3. Yonex USA officially only brings in Yonex 4UG4.

However at the local store I shopped at, they have managed to obtain a few 3UG4 on occasion by talking with Yonex Canada.

Unforunately it does not. Yonex Canada officially brings in 4UG4 and 5, and 3UG3. Yonex USA officially only brings in Yonex 4UG4.

However at the local store I shopped at, they have managed to obtain a few 3UG4 on occasion by talking with Yonex Canada.
Then I'm lucky though; the store I purchase racquets from gets CD versions in many grip sizes for 3U. For AT, I got 3UG5, and 3UG4. I guess I'm lucky :)

Are you sure it is the 900?

What is the date codes you have on those and show us some pics too.

Are you sure it is the 900?

What is the date codes you have on those and show us some pics too.
I saw some G4s in 3U for sure at my proshop. I didn't purchase though (I got an AT700). As for the 3UG3, I saw an AT700 with it. Sorry for mixing it all up;I thought this problem occurred with all of the ATs. My mistake.

I've could've got a G3 but the guy said i've have to get it specially ordered. :S

hey,

ive had an AT900T for few months now and it broke on me this week, just through hitting, no racquet clashes or anything.

I also know someone who had the same problem with the AT900T except he had only had it for around a month!

So its definitly true but its still a good racquet so dont let it put you off!

wow, technique has such a weak frame.

wow, technique has such a weak frame.

That is not applicable to the 3U!

Hahaahaha Matt is correct i was one of a victim of 4U

I have an Armortec 900 Technique and it is 4u g5. The racket depends on the handler. If you just take good care of your racket probably it will lasts long. Don't question the durability of the 4U coz it is the same as 3U. If you're a lousy player then the racket won't last and that's for sure.

I have an Armortec 900 Technique and it is 4u g5. The racket depends on the handler. If you just take good care of your racket probably it will lasts long. Don't question the durability of the 4U coz it is the same as 3U. If you're a lousy player then the racket won't last and that's for sure.

i disagree. so you mean ppl like taufik hidayat is lousy? since he broke so many.

My AT 900 T seems to be making funny noises.The rattling sound comes from between the shaft and the cone..

My question is that will it cause the racket to come out from the handle?

Is my shaft giving way?

I am worried cause i dont want it to come out in the middle of the game and hurt someone with it.

i disagree. so you mean ppl like taufik hidayat is lousy? since he broke so many.
If you string at 32lbs, your racquets will go quickly...

If you string at 32lbs, your racquets will go quickly...

i am against this> If you're a lousy player then the racket won't last and that's for sure.

Well, if for any reason you mishit when your strings are at 32, your racquet will collapse. And it's impossible to have no mishits.

Well, if for any reason you mishit when your strings are at 32, your racquet will collapse. And it's impossible to have no mishits.

i didnt disagree bout the part on tension. :rolleyes:

How is the Armotec900 technique im getting mine soon, is it's smash as powerful as the at700. Can i get some review on it

How is the Armotec900 technique im getting mine soon, is it's smash as powerful as the at700. Can i get some review on it
Use the search feature, and look for Dinkalot's racquet review, and Ants review on the AT900T.

Everyone knows that taufik is a professional player and a hard hitter and no wonder he could easily break his racket. So you can never question the durability of the racket that really depends on the player.

How is the Armotec900 technique im getting mine soon, is it's smash as powerful as the at700. Can i get some review on it
No, it has a less power but more on defense and good for net play. You can easily control the shuttlecock. And i love that racket.

Friend bought AT900 technique 3U G4 from Japan. So there is a G4 for a 3U. Not sure if Malaysia has this. More common I saw is 3U G5.
Is there a huge difference between G5 vs G4? hopefully is minimal.

My AT 900 T seems to be making funny noises.The rattling sound comes from between the shaft and the cone..

My question is that will it cause the racket to come out from the handle?

Is my shaft giving way?

I am worried cause i dont want it to come out in the middle of the game and hurt someone with it.


Can someone help me with this..

Friend bought AT900 technique 3U G4 from Japan. So there is a G4 for a 3U. Not sure if Malaysia has this. More common I saw is 3U G5.
Is there a huge difference between G5 vs G4? hopefully is minimal.

The difference is just the handle size between G5 and G4.

G5 is 83mm girth.
G4 is 86mm girth.

Can someone help me with this..

You might want to read through this thread...

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=21123

I've been using the at900 technique it is pretty powerful, but it doesnt feel as good when you hold it as the at700. It feels more hollow. Is the at900 really for doubles, becasue i'm a single player and deciding which one to use at700 or 900technique? What do you guys think

Umm... singles... well, both are good, but AT700 might be better for a smasher, and AT900T might be better for you if you prefer netplay, defense, drives, etc. I use an AT700 and use it for netplay, and not smashes, so it doesn't really matter. They're both great racquets anyways.

AT900-t feel more hollow because it is more head light vs AT700.
You have the answer yourself. You just need to ask and anser them.
1) which one fit your style better?
2) which one produce the shot you want?
3) which one win more game for you
4) use the force...

4) use the force...
Either pick the dark side (Black and red AT700)
Or choose the light side (White AT900T)
:D:D:D

Either pick the dark side (Black and red AT700)
Or choose the light side (White AT900T)
:D:D:D

haha thats a good one.....

hmm at700 feels better :) im gonna go with that one for singles for now :0

will the grip size affect the performance of a person? and is the at500 more durable if it's 3U than 4U?

grip size does affect performance, as u can switch to back & forehand easier can increase speed of ur game.
3u is definately more durable than 4u.

at700>at900t =]]
900 is too stiff.

hmm ok some people find the 900 too stiff and some find it flexy...

To me it is just rite the at 700 is very stiff..

Initially when I used my 900T, I had the impression it was too stiff until I used it for a while and got used to it as I adapted. Workds great!

Can the AT900T 4U can handle up to 30 lbs?

Well to be honest, i broke it with 24lbs...enough said

Why what happened?

It definately can holds up to 30Lbs. I have mine strung at 30 to 31lbs. So far i have not broke mine. But i do have friends who broke their AT900 at 28lbs,25lbs and even 23lbs!

Did they hit it on other racket when they were playing doubles?

4U bad!! 3U all the way!!

Is't ok if i'm going to strung it with 26 lbs?

I guess it depends on the person..but ants its right that it can hold up to 31lbs or more.

so depends on what you feel comfortable with and willing to take the risk..

Ok i'll try to strung it with 28 lbs. I'll let you know if my racket breaks. lol

4U bad!! 3U all the way!!

This distinctly reminds me of Animal Farm. :p

4U bad!! 3U all the way!!

Yeah.. i always use 3U. The only 4U that i had which was given to me.. i didnt even use it for gameplay. But i let my bro use it instead. hehehe

Got my AT900T 4U strung @ 28 lbs.

Got my AT900T 4U strung @ 28 lbs.

Hi, just wanna know how you are performing with 28lbs on AT900T. Mine is 26 lbs, just nice for me. May be will consider 28lbs next time on my racquet if feedback on 28lbs is good.

Tell us more....thanks:)

i own one technique 3ug5 and tried friend's power 4ug4
totally different feeling, is this the same between 3ug5 technique and 4ug5 technique?
While watching the Japan Open 2007, I bought AT900, technique . Do you think it is good. Since I heard it is easily broken. Do you think I should change to AT700. I a, leaving japan on Wednesday. I still have one more day to decide to change. Thanks

While watching the Japan Open 2007, I bought AT900, technique . Do you think it is good. Since I heard it is easily broken. Do you think I should change to AT700. I a, leaving japan on Wednesday. I still have one more day to decide to change. Thanks

nah.... At700 is more fragile than At900. few cases already heard. they told me, yes it is very good to use. then show me the crack....:eek: and said, is normal to see in At700....:rolleyes:

Got my AT900T 4U strung @ 28 lbs.

Hmmm...nice to hear that a 4U can hold a 28 lbs.But wont it be too risky even for a single mishit.:confused:.I strung mine only at 25 lbs.Dont wanna break this one..:D

Hi, just wanna know how you are performing with 28lbs on AT900T. Mine is 26 lbs, just nice for me. May be will consider 28lbs next time on my racquet if feedback on 28lbs is good.

Tell us more....thanks:)
I love it! It is spectacular especially on control. It's a bit less on power because I'm using BG68Ti.

When I was using BG85 I've got more power on it but I don't like the control. I'm a control player so I had to changed it into BG68Ti.

Hmmm...nice to hear that a 4U can hold a 28 lbs.But wont it be too risky even for a single mishit.:confused:.I strung mine only at 25 lbs.Dont wanna break this one..:D
Well, that depends on the power when it collides on other racket. :D More power, then it's more possibility to break. There are many different cases why do people break their rackets.:)

I had my 900 T strung at 23 since I was afraid of it breaking and its doing fine now...just took me a while to get used to the loss of power but soon got it back. I just love the defence of the racket! So damn fast!!!

It can handle up to 30 lbs. Yes, it is fast to swing especially on drive.:D

It can handle up to 30 lbs. Yes, it is fast to swing especially on drive.:D

Which U are you referring to?!?!

I'm referring for the 4U racket.

I'm referring for the 4U racket.

I believe my 900SA swings faster than that!!

I believe my 900SA swings faster than that!!

whats that matt?? 900 sa?


4U is really fast but kinda brittle. I sold my last AT 900 T 4U already.I am surely going to miss it..

whats that matt?? 900 sa?


4U is really fast but kinda brittle. I sold my last AT 900 T 4U already.I am surely going to miss it..

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=40427

This one is different because there is no 3U version since it's a model of it's own!! =)

You mean 900 swing power sa?

You mean 900 swing power sa?

That's right!!!!

I am assuming you purchased this from an authorized dealer, which would be CD coded. In this case, the AT900s, G4 and G5 only comes in 4U while 3U only comes in G3.

For the grip size on AT900s, 3U comes with G3, G4, and G5 whereas the 4U only comes in G4.

For the grip size on AT900s, 3U comes with G3, G4, and G5 whereas the 4U only comes in G4.

I believe some areas also only carry 4UG5 as well.

As far as the catalogue saids.

3UG3-5
4UG4-5

I believe some areas also only carry 4UG5 as well.

As far as the catalogue saids.

3UG3-5
4UG4-5

If so, shouldn't the Yonex website have it posted? Maybe it's not authentic or not made by Yonex?

For the grip size on AT900s, 3U comes with G3, G4, and G5 whereas the 4U only comes in G4.

sad that in canada... no 3UG5...
I had to order mine from Japan :mad:

Alrite, something is weird..

I was given an AT 700 (old) as a gift and i have been using it for 2 games.
The at 700 is so much more powerful and fast as compared to the AT 900 T!!!

I mean i know that AT 900 T do not pack that much punch, but i control better and etc with the AT 700!!

I have never used the AT 700 before so this is my first, I am wondering what is going on..

Alrite, something is weird..

I was given an AT 700 (old) as a gift and i have been using it for 2 games.
The at 700 is so much more powerful and fast as compared to the AT 900 T!!!

I mean i know that AT 900 T do not pack that much punch, but i control better and etc with the AT 700!!

I have never used the AT 700 before so this is my first, I am wondering what is going on..

Was it a 3U or 4U racquet? It also depends on the weight and stringing too. I own two AT900T (One strung at 28lbs with BG66 and one strung at 26lbs with BG85) and it worked out well for me. Mine is a 4U racquet.

mine is all 3u so thats why i am wondering what is happening?,, :(

No Blurry, you haven't adapted to 3U yet. I like my racket.

However I know with my 900SA, I can swing faster but it's not as powerful as the 900T.

I am looking at getting an Armortec 900, still deciding Power or Technique. I went to Lee's Badminton (like most people in Toronto/GTA Area) and tried both out in my hands. The 900 Power feels quite solid, while the Technique is slightly (very slightly) lighter. The 900 Technique I would say is quite a balanced racquet. It feels great since I play a more balanced game, also I will be likely getting the 3U version.

Hmm... I have seen lots of comment of different people saying that the technique is more a control/balance racquet compared to power. (even Yonex claimed to design the 2 racquet this way)
However, I play better with the power in all aspects, even doing drop shot or net shot.... am I weired or that I haven't fully explore the technique? (I have tried to stick with the technique for the last few times i play... but still...)
:confused:

This tip might help some people who feel that their At900T 3U is somewhat lacking in power. I changed the balance point to make the head more heavier. I reduced the length of my overgrip so that the racquet's balance point became 30.2 cm (somewhere slightly over 30 cm). I really enjoy my game after this adjustment.

The Armotec 900 Technique is mostly good for drops and net plays. Once you get use to it, you will feel a great improvement. This is only for the 4U Technique since I have never tried the 3U before.

Hello People

I've ordered a Armortec 900T and have been looking through the forums for information and have noticed a pattern emerging.

All the people whose rackets seem to break are from Asia and specifically Maylasia and Singapore. My theory is that you all have fake rackets. You pay through the nose for crap because in those countries its not very well regulated and there are no trading standards.

People will sell you a fake racket because they make more money which they need to feed their family. Unlike in the UK where people don't need to work and the company who sells it to you will get alot of grief for selling you crap.

No offense

I think you should keep your smartass comments to yourself and do a bit more research in the ways of how Asian countries operate economically before you make any more stupid comments like that. I could name a thousand ways to get fakes in UK, but does that make the UK a country who cannot even control it's economy even though it's one of the major "western powers"? I think not. And don't think that adding "no offense" to your statement will make that garbage you wrote look any better and less offensive.

If so, shouldn't the Yonex website have it posted? Maybe it's not authentic or not made by Yonex?

I have the international catalogue, provided by a Yonex authorized dealer.

To answer your question, it is posted on Yonex’s website. The question is, are you looking at the correct Yonex website?

I think you should keep your smartass comments to yourself and do a bit more research in the ways of how Asian countries operate economically before you make any more stupid comments like that. I could name a thousand ways to get fakes in UK, but does that make the UK a country who cannot even control it's economy even though it's one of the major "western powers"? I think not. And don't think that adding "no offense" to your statement will make that garbage you wrote look any better and less offensive.

I second this wholeheartedly :) Master Yoda is quite ignorant in his post

I think you should keep your smartass comments to yourself and do a bit more research in the ways of how Asian countries operate economically before you make any more stupid comments like that. I could name a thousand ways to get fakes in UK, but does that make the UK a country who cannot even control it's economy even though it's one of the major "western powers"? I think not. And don't think that adding "no offense" to your statement will make that garbage you wrote look any better and less offensive.

I second this wholeheartedly :) Master Yoda is quite ignorant in his post

Yoda also posted in another AT900 thread but few others have already reponded to it.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44558&page=4

Yoda also posted in another AT900 thread but few others have already reponded to it.

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44558&page=4


My goodness, it's like Yoda's the second coming of CoolDoo6 :p

More like another superstition. (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/member.php?u=14470)

Well, well.. touching on broken rackets, Thomas Laybourn admitted that he also broke off 3 racquets in a particular tournament. Is he using fake??

I really wonder, how stupid people can be? It's like saying that people who live in a country ruled by a woman, are a bunch of faggots.

MASTER YODA, if you have nothing better to do, since people in UK do not need to work, come down to Malaysia..... and i'll give you a kick up your @$$!! and i might even stick a fake racket or two up your bottom....

cmon now, what's with all the hate. let's put them aside and keep the forums clean.

on topic: i've been using the AT900T for a while now and I noticed that it feels better if strung at a higher tension. When I got it, it was strung at 23/25lbs and it felt good. But when I got it restrung at 26/28, there was a considerable change. I had it strung once again back to 23/25 and it didn't feel as good, it's like I've lost power AND control.

cmon now, what's with all the hate. let's put them

I second this. We should all cool off now. Hopefully, this masteryoda will recognize his error and rectify the situation. Perhaps he will re-state his post is a less offensive, more sensitive way and not to discriminate whole countries. He might even go as far as to apologize. Who knows? If not, then we can't all beat on him. Well, i guess you can, but we shouldn't. Point is, let's not add flame to the fire.

I would hate for such a valuable thread to be closed.

Please don't close it Kwun!!!

Again master Yoda,

There are something that you are quite ignorant about..

Hello People

I've ordered a Armortec 900T and have been looking through the forums for information and have noticed a pattern emerging.

All the people whose rackets seem to break are from Asia and specifically Maylasia and Singapore. My theory is that you all have fake rackets. You pay through the nose for crap because in those countries its not very well regulated and there are no trading standards.

People will sell you a fake racket because they make more money which they need to feed their family. Unlike in the UK where people don't need to work and the company who sells it to you will get alot of grief for selling you crap.

No offense
Some racquets from Sg/M'sia/Indonesia/etc might be fakes, but I think that the people from Sg and M'sia probably plays harder, which might just increase the chance of getting a broken racquet. Or it can simply be the fact that most of us here come from Asia in the first place..

I've seen quite a few broken Nanospeeds, armortecs, musclepowers, etc.. in NewZealand, with NZ coding on it. That doesnt mean that they're fakes though.

Wow Master_Yoda, trying to be allllllll hardcore. I don't think we should reply to sink to his level.

Wow Master_Yoda, trying to be allllllll hardcore. I don't think we should reply to sink to his level.

lost touch of his 'force'
people may conclude so many breakage of Yonex in asian country. did these jokers ever think that is how many percentage ratio to its number of pieces sold in asian?
suddenly i am thinking of master DinkAlot, he did break so many of Yonex rackets.......:rolleyes: is he getting the fakes one too??:rolleyes:
may the 'force' be with us....:)

Hello Yoda,
I dont know how frequent have u travel to Singapore or Malaysia or even to S.E Asia or to China? When u make this comment, it certainly unfair to those genuine suppliers in Spore and Malaysia. There are fakes rackets at many places but I would prefer to buy YY rackets in Singapore rather than other places because of the genuine stuff I will get there. Please dont make sweeping statement in this case. :mad: U are implying shops in Spore and Malaysia are selling fake stuff.
Lee:rolleyes:
Hello People

I've ordered a Armortec 900T and have been looking through the forums for information and have noticed a pattern emerging.

All the people whose rackets seem to break are from Asia and specifically Maylasia and Singapore. My theory is that you all have fake rackets. You pay through the nose for crap because in those countries its not very well regulated and there are no trading standards.

People will sell you a fake racket because they make more money which they need to feed their family. Unlike in the UK where people don't need to work and the company who sells it to you will get alot of grief for selling you crap.

No offense

Master Yoda = Charv ....no need to work ..?!!!!

Guys..seriously just ignore this useless individual....he probably does not even know how to play badminton at the first place...!!

Hahahahahaaaaaaa

I think you should keep your smartass comments to yourself and do a bit more research in the ways of how Asian countries operate economically before you make any more stupid comments like that. I could name a thousand ways to get fakes in UK, but does that make the UK a country who cannot even control it's economy even though it's one of the major "western powers"? I think not. And don't think that adding "no offense" to your statement will make that garbage you wrote look any better and less offensive.


I have travelled to many ASIAN countries and the fakes business is a big part of the economy. The UK and no other country can completely control the market but the companys in the UK are alot more likey to be taken to court than in Asia because we expect better and have the cash to do so.

Cheers for saying it was a smart comment, you lot haven't realised it and have been chatting about it for god knows how long.

Hello Yoda,
I dont know how frequent have u travel to Singapore or Malaysia or even to S.E Asia or to China? When u make this comment, it certainly unfair to those genuine suppliers in Spore and Malaysia. There are fakes rackets at many places but I would prefer to buy YY rackets in Singapore rather than other places because of the genuine stuff I will get there. Please dont make sweeping statement in this case. :mad: U are implying shops in Spore and Malaysia are selling fake stuff.
Lee:rolleyes:


The fakes business a big in Asia. Also the quality of fakes has risen considerably, you can have real sales people from yonex who are corrupted by criminal gangs selling rackets to reputable stores.

I have travelled to many ASIAN countries and the fakes business is a big part of the economy. The UK and no other country can completely control the market but the companys in the UK are alot more likey to be taken to court than in Asia because we expect better and have the cash to do so.

Cheers for saying it was a smart comment, you lot haven't realised it and have been chatting about it for god knows how long.

I think that you're really being arrogant, ignorant, and rather racist.
I can see by all your defensive reactions that in your minds you know I'm right and your all in denial. Just shows there's alot of screwed up people out there.

Glad I've made you all think for once and have sparked a healthy debateWould the major badminton stores sell fakes ? Not so likely.
And why do the sponsored pros carry so many racquets during tournaments ? That's because they do quite often break their racquets, though they're definitely real.
Here's a quote from one of your posts in a different thread:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=689107#post689107
the professionals have real ones because they are sent direct from Yonex

If the companies in the UK are likely to take action about their counterfeit products because they 'expect better' and 'have the cash to do so', how about the Asian companies such as YONEX ?
Yonex obviously has much more money than any other brands in the world, so why dont they take actions about all the fake products in Asia that you mentionned about ?

The fakes business a big in Asia. Also the quality of fakes has risen considerably, you can have real sales people from yonex who are corrupted by criminal gangs selling rackets to reputable stores.Real Yonex salesmen would just import their goods directly from Japan.. If they're 'corrupted by criminal gangs', they wouldnt be 'real sales people from yonex'.

One day when your own genuine racquet breaks, you'll find out that real ones do really break. >_>

I can see by all your defensive reactions that in your minds you know I'm right and your all in denial. Just shows there's alot of screwed up people out there.

Glad I've made you all think for once and have sparked a healthy debate

Hello Master Yoda,
Have u been to Singapore? Do u know Singapore have very strict laws and rules against piracy. If you said some countries in Asia do sell fake rackets, then it will sound likely. But when u said specially Malaysia and Singapore do, then I think u have not done yr investigation thoroughly before u conclude.:rolleyes:Do u want to set up a shop here to sell fakes and see whether u can get busted or not:p
Lee:mad:
The fakes business a big in Asia. Also the quality of fakes has risen considerably, you can have real sales people from yonex who are corrupted by criminal gangs selling rackets to reputable stores.

I think that you're really being arrogant, ignorant, and rather racist.

Would the major badminton stores sell fakes ? Not so likely.
And why do the sponsored pros carry so many racquets during tournaments ? That's because they do quite often break their racquets, though they're definitely real.

If the companies in the UK are likely to take action about their counterfeit products because they 'expect better' and 'have the cash to do so', how about the Asian companies such as YONEX ?
Yonex obviously has much more money than any other brands in the world, so why dont they take actions about all the fake products in Asia that you mentionned about ?


Real Yonex salesmen would just import their goods directly from Japan.. If they're 'corrupted by criminal gangs', they wouldnt be 'real sales people from yonex'.

One day when your own genuine racquet breaks, you'll find out that real ones do really break. >_>

First of all you obviously don't know what being racist is. Being racist is taking the piss out of people for being a certain race. Its not racist describing the reality of what goes on in other countries.

Secondly I didn't mean the companies taking yonex to court, I mean't the customers taking the company to court.

3rd, if you have a policeman who is corrupt it doesn't mean he isn't a real policeman does it? The same applies for Yonex dealers, they can still be corrupt.

4th, Badminton stores would not knowly sell fakes

5th pros break rackets alot easier because their tension is so high

Hello Master Yoda,
Have u been to Singapore? Do u know Singapore have very strict laws and rules against piracy. If you said some countries in Asia do sell fake rackets, then it will sound likely. But when u said specially Malaysia and Singapore do, then I think u have not done yr investigation thoroughly before u conclude.:rolleyes:Do u want to set up a shop here to sell fakes and see whether u can get busted or not:p
Lee:mad:

Yeh and possession of smack gets you executed but it doesn't stop people from doing it does it? Despiration!!!!!!!!!!

First of all you obviously don't know what being racist is. Being racist is taking the piss out of people for being a certain race. Its not racist describing the reality of what goes on in other countries.
My bad. You were commenting as if the Asian countries /and some of the people there were 'bad'. Some of which you said were true, but really.. you were like looking down upon some Asian countries.

4th, Badminton stores would not knowly sell fakes
That can be likely.
5th pros break rackets alot easier because their tension is so high
Exactly. The people here broke their racquets probably due to the same reason.

Spam. The last time I heared someone say that was by a 11 year old kid.


Was that by one of your classmates?

Was that by one of your classmates?
Yes, a long time ago.

Lets get back to the main topic: Armortec 900 Technique, and get an administrator to get rid of these pointless debates.

[quote=jhirata;689133]My bad. You were commenting as if the Asian countries /and some of the people there were 'bad'. Some of which you said were true, but really.. you were like looking down upon some Asian countries.

There are bad people all over the world in every country, I'm not racist, I am actually half Chinese myself and have throughout my teenage years suffered alot of racism. I would never be racist to anyone because I know what its like to be on the receiving end.

Master yoda,

I suggest you start a new thread and not continue here or in my thread..

thanks you....

I own an Armortec 900T myself, and it is definitely a great racket that fits me perfectly in my game... it performs well, and with 24lbs tension and lots of care from me, I do expect it to last for a long time(consider my percentage of mis-hit is quite low:p).

Regarding "Master Yoda"... I always thought I am arrogant, and can be quite ignorant at times, but this guy is a level above me in both departments... Some Asian countries may not be as well regulated and etc, but that does not mean all aspect of them are messed up.:rolleyes:

Even Lin Dan broke his racket(I mean it was completely broken!!!) during the final of World cup 2006 against Chen Yu... thus it was the impact of his smash that broke the racket, and not due to a mis-hit.

@Master Yoda- Stop being a troll. You know it yourself that there are authorized Yonex dealers in Asia, and you know there are fake sellers in the UK. So don't even reply to this message; just stop making so many uninformed and stupid comments, and just drop the subject.

I have the international catalogue, provided by a Yonex authorized dealer.

To answer your question, it is posted on Yonex’s website. The question is, are you looking at the correct Yonex website?

I'm looking at the Yonex.com website...is that not their correct website?

I'm looking at the Yonex.com website...is that not their correct website?

That's the main yonex portal, but doesn't show all available rackets, weights and grip sizes. For those you need to go to the specific regions, ie:

yonex.co.uk shows rackets, U's and G's available in the UK
yonex.co.jp (I think!) shows rackets etc in Japan

etc etc etc

@Master Yoda- Stop being a troll. You know it yourself that there are authorized Yonex dealers in Asia, and you know there are fake sellers in the UK. So don't even reply to this message; just stop making so many uninformed and stupid comments, and just drop the subject.

calm down.....:o
if you feel that group is a troll group, just leave it. no need to join that troll group, get what i mean?
:rolleyes:
i wonder when will the admin & mods step into this, if this case goes further....

Just stay within the topic of the thread. :) I think this forum has closed MANY Threads lately..

Just stay within the topic of the thread. :) I think this forum has closed MANY Threads lately..

I cannot agree more..

Just if you have an opinion voice it out in you blog or something like that..

I can see by all your defensive reactions that in your minds you know I'm right and your all in denial. Just shows there's alot of screwed up people out there.

Glad I've made you all think for once and have sparked a healthy debate

This mother-of-all-ignoramuses is posting the same silly stuff all over the place :rolleyes:

See post#81
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=44558

By the way, a defensive reaction doesn't show that something is either right or wrong.

For instance, anyone who analyses your writing would say you're truly a jackass with a garbage bin for a head and toothpaste for brains. ;)
Um, would you care to defend this? :cool:

Don't feed the troll please, its people like Master Yoda that thrives off of starting and continuing conflicts. Which is why he's posting the same things in 2 threads, so please just drop the topic altogether yes? I'm sure a moderator will soon come along and either:

a) Ban Master Yoda for saying offensive things and starting conflicts
b) Close down the thread altogether
c) Ban those involved for the on-going flaming
d) All of the above

Because I would hate to see another thread closed, because I'm quite interested in the AT900T and would like to learn more about other opinions on it.

All the 'troll' posts/ useless off-topic posts should just get deleted, then everything should be fine for a while.

Alrite back to the AT 900 T

URghhh it is not a good thing for me if i tend to switch rackets.I love the racket but sometime it does not pack that much of power!!

You will just have to get used to it longer...

It's Blurry D, not the racket! hehehe!

hheheheheh :P

Do all of you use a thicker grip on the racket or just an over grip on top of the original one?

For me, one overgrip on top of the stock grip.

one overgrip on top of original
i find it that its a lot smoother if you old it very near the end of the racket
i generate good power now :)
a lot better than my ns 8k
i feel if i play more, i think this racket is perfect

Is it just me, or is one side of the Armortec 900T more susceptible than the other? One side of my racket is flawless, and the other side is MASSIVE chipped.

Hahahahha. I love it though, regardless of the paint job that leaves much to be desired...

...Do u know Singapore have very strict laws and rules against piracy. ...

Sorry, a little OT here.
I used to think Singapore is a safe haven for genuine stuff.

Not until I got 2 fake MBs from a singapore seller on eBay.

Yes, sad that fakes do show up from SGP, those who sell fakes in jail. A few rotten apples spoil several million good ones. But it does not mean it never happened, at least to me. I rest my case.

Sorry, a little OT here.
I used to think Singapore is a safe haven for genuine stuff.

Not until I got 2 fake MB from a singapore seller on eBay, I tihnk Singapore is not as pure as perceived. Frankly, it's just another Asian country to me after my disappointing incident.
Sad very sad for singapore.

nooo not again..... can you people just stop with this!!

Seriously, I am utterly disappointed with you people..you bought it at your own risk dont blame it on the country.it is the individual.

Alrite i dont want to go further any more before i get banned from this forum..

There are thiefs everywhere, it doesn't matter where you are. Just make sure you find someone with good reputation to deal with.

guys,

how much an AT900T cost in malaysia? gonna get it this sunday .

guys,

how much an AT900T cost in malaysia? gonna get it this sunday .

be prepared to pay around RM650

be prepared to pay around RM650

wooo .. is the price increase? last time I ask was rm580 .. around that la ..

wooo .. is the price increase? last time I ask was rm580 .. around that la ..

is your price given includes string and overgrip?
normal cheap string? normal cheap overgrip?

Some simple question i'd like to ask..did u remove the plastic wrap before u wrap the additional overgrip?Mine's strung with NBG95 by 26,25lbs 4U,G4..i find its grip was a bit too big for me..cant find the feeling.But i also dont wanna take off the plastic wrap.Wanna keep it as perfect as new.LOL

I also put an anti scratch sticker around the frame.Was it also affecting the power that should be transfered during hits?

For those who got used to this racket,can u tell us what should we do to get used to or make a fully use out of this racket?

I think it juz need to be broken in a little, maybe by 2 or more sessions of hard smashing game.Mines all 3u so the situation may differ.

is your price given includes string and overgrip?
normal cheap string? normal cheap overgrip?

i din ask what string and overgrip given but i think, BG66 it suppose .. :) .. btw, what normally string and grip given? .. :) .. tq ..

hey guys,

which shop at pertama complex normally offer good service + good price for yonex racket and shoe?

Some simple question i'd like to ask..did u remove the plastic wrap before u wrap the additional overgrip?Mine's strung with NBG95 by 26,25lbs 4U,G4..i find its grip was a bit too big for me..cant find the feeling.But i also dont wanna take off the plastic wrap.Wanna keep it as perfect as new.LOL

I also put an anti scratch sticker around the frame.Was it also affecting the power that should be transfered during hits?

For those who got used to this racket,can u tell us what should we do to get used to or make a fully use out of this racket?

over the time, that plastic will break off. remove it. over wrap the original grip with electrical wire tape. wrap with over grip, the thin type. if you are using the replacement over the original grip, it will be too big for you.

anti-scratch sticker, added couple of grammes to the head? you will have slightly extra power.....:)

get more training with the At900T, get used to it. fully use out? recheck your techniques.....:)

Some simple question i'd like to ask..did u remove the plastic wrap before u wrap the additional overgrip?Mine's strung with NBG95 by 26,25lbs 4U,G4..i find its grip was a bit too big for me..cant find the feeling.But i also dont wanna take off the plastic wrap.Wanna keep it as perfect as new.LOL


What I suggest is take off the original grip and replace it with good replacement grips such as karakal super pu. How much to overlap the grip can be perfected after a few trials and errors. That is, when playing with it, and you feel that it is too thick, then reduce the overlap. You will know how much to overlap when your grip feels right during a game

Some simple question i'd like to ask..did u remove the plastic wrap before u wrap the additional overgrip?Mine's strung with NBG95 by 26,25lbs 4U,G4..i find its grip was a bit too big for me..cant find the feeling.But i also dont wanna take off the plastic wrap.Wanna keep it as perfect as new.LOL

It is a silly idea to keep the plastic wrap on. Well when you put the overgrip on top of it, over time the plastic wrap is going to gradually going to sticks to the original grip itself - so what good does that do?. It would be a bit of a hassle taking it off afterwards once it does that.

lol .. mine, I removed that plastic grip and as well as ori black grip .. :P .. replaced them with towel grip ..

Trying to buy an AT900T 4U G4. Currently own AT900P 4U G4. Have been reading posts about 4U and 3U. Seems many people agree that 3U is more durable than 4U. I want to have more control than power. I already get used to the AT900P's weight and grip.
Should I buy the AT900T 3U G4 or 4U G4 coz I heard that 3U G4 is at similar weight as AT900P's 4U G4? Should I have the string initally at 23 or 24lbs? Any suggestions are appreciated. Thanks.

You should try the 3U Technique, because it's less head heavy than the Power, when you hold it, it's actually quite light. Just string it to whatever tension you usually use, then you can see if there's any difference between the 2 rackets.

My thoughts on the 900T

Racket: Yonex Armortec 900 Technique
Weight and Grip Size: 4UG4
String: Yonex BG80
String Tension: 23lbs 2 piece stringing
Grip: Karakal PU supergrip
Shuttle Used: Yonex AS40
Review Date: 04/01/2008


First Impressions:
Aesthetically the Armortec 900 technique is beautifully finished. Yonex have used their two tone paint for the silver which glistens subtly when viewed at different angles. The design and colour scheme work well together and I feel this will appeal to a wide audience. Technically the 900T is one of the more advanced rackets in Yonex line up and when you pick the racket up you feel that you have something special in your hands. Playing around with the 900T gives me an impression of a slight head heavy feeling but more balanced than the Armortec 900P or mp99. Seems less strenuous to manoeuvre round and easy on the wrists

Warming Up:
Feels a lot lighter and faster in the air than my previous mp99. Stiff feel, but not as stiff as the 900P. Vibration is minimal and the racket feels solid on contact with the shuttle. The weight of the racket doesn’t give you that same impact as heaver rackets but still manages to clear with ease. I’m falling for this racket and it’s only been 5 minutes into my test; it’s so simple to play with but I fell I will need several more sessions to reap maximum rewards from this racket. Midcourt drives feel solid and super quick because of the fast manoeuvrability of the racket. Control really is excellent as mentioned in previous reviews. Smash time! And the racket doesn’t disappoint, I feel the power is there and in some instances equals that of the mp99 due to the speed it travels on in the air.

Game Time:
Good feel around the court but the racket excels from the midcourt to the net. Great fast drives and deadly at the net, easy to place the shuttle where you want it. Has a soft feel but that’s probably down more to the BG80 strings than the racket but the feelings excellent anyway. At the back of the court the racket is very good but a little more weight would have helped to make clearing a little easier, I find I have to compensate by swinging a little harder to get the shuttle to the back of the court. Smashes feel powerful with correct timing and can be placed with control, we know the 900T is not as powerful as its “P” version counterpart but I feel it still packs a punch, although not from the heavyweight division! Termed a “defensive” racket means you’re constantly trying to test its defensive capabilities; (psychologically your focusing on its so called strength) and in this department the racket does feel very good, it provides a solid responsive base to counter hit a smash with a potentially winning shot.


Conclusion:
Initial thoughts of this racket have got me pretty excited about it. It’s been hard to single out any real weak areas of the racket although we can acknowledge the slight power Vs control trade off. I feel the racket would be suited to the more all-round player who prefers a more “tactically” focused game were placement and fast drives are needed. But don’t get me wrong, for the smashers out there, this racket won’t disappoint either, but it’s not the powerhouse the 900p is. A forgiving and easy to use racket, suited for the intermediate to advanced player who aspires to the likes of the skilful Mr Hidayat; turning attack into defence. With its light weight and fast manoeuvrability I would classify this as more of a doubles racket however it would play well in a singles game. Overall...two thumbs UP!


My overall ratings

Power: 8.5/10
Control: 9/10
Feel: 9/10
Defence: 9/10

Positives: Great control, manoeuvrability and gives good feedback
Negatives: Ever so slight reduction in power over some of the hard hitting sticks

Play with it some more and you're realize how powerful this racket is. Fast and precise!

had more time with the racket and with every session it feels better and better....just need to get my timing right :)

I've never picked up a racquet that feels right from the word go, but the 900t really did.

Hidayat already switch to power version

Hidayat already switch to power version

Because its so damn good... just gets better and better :D
No wonder most of the pro's prefer P over T, they already have superb technique and can get a whole lot more from the power generated by a P :).

Yep volcom i agree....because they have such good technique, they can get the most from the racket....i found it to be a little too demanding for me

I pick Technique simply because it looks better than the Power.That's my own personal preferrence though.Hehe..Btw,technique is also quite powerful for me already.A lil bit weaker than the AT700..but its maneuverability n the control is better than the AT700.

i just received my AT900T 4UG4, it seem a pretty good racket

4U ill! 3U is better!

This is no time for some "Four legs good, two legs bad" routine.

Because its so damn good... just gets better and better :D
No wonder most of the pro's prefer P over T, they already have superb technique and can get a whole lot more from the power generated by a P :).
now hidayat switch again to his technique version..
any thought?:p

now hidayat switch again to his technique version..
any thought?:p

No comments hahahaha :p

Good choice.Since i bought T also cos of him..=P

will get this racket later...will post it later too..

brief noob review of my AT900T

Racket: Yonex Armortec 900 Technique JP
Weight and Grip Size: 3UG4
String: Yonex NBG 98
String Tension: 23lbs 1 piece stringing
Grip: wilson pro overgrip (white)
Shuttle Used: Yonex AS40 & PT 10


Looks:
Beautiful racket, esp the white parts of the racket (i like white :)) Yonex dont have many rackets that have white paint. Like the unique look.

Warm up:
Swing very fast, when holding it can feel the head is abit heavy but when swinging it around the head heaviness disappear.

Doubles game:
Tend to overhit the shuttle and mis-hit due to racket swinging speed & wrong timing causing many shots to hit net or fly too high when doing drops shots/slice. Could not generate power from it, forehand clears were weak, smash keep hitting net. Able to perform very fast drives and good in countering opponent drive shots. Friends also demo with my racket, most common complain is no solid feel when smashing/clearing aka no power (like the head weight had disappear, swinging a headless racket).

Conclusion:
Maybe i was tired after work, played the double right after work, so could not focus. (doubles partner keep calling me to focus as i keep making errors) This brief review is base on just 1 doubles game so maybe future games i can fully utilize this racket and get better results

My overall ratings

Power: 6/10
Control: 8/10
Feel: 6/10
Defence: 9/10

Positives: Great manoeuvrability , good defence
Negatives: No power compared to other head heavy rackets, no feel (like swinging headless racket)

The best racket I've ever use, the defense, the maneuverability, and the power is good too, i use 4UG4. this racket make my smash more accurate.

Ok so 4U isnt very durable?, If i hit too much on the frame is it going to break the racket

Is it possible to get a 3U in America?

Only by buying it secondhand or by ordering it from Asia/Europe(?).

When I went to buy my 900P I also tested a T and wasn't keen on it. The T is better for defensive transitions and cuts through the air better (probably due to aero section).

However, my timing was not as natural as with the P, and the T seemed to swing with less momentum. This wasn't due to balance - it's hard to explain, but the T seemed to kick differently (further up the shaft than the P). It also seemed to wobble a lot more under heavy hits.

Coming from an 800O I expected to prefer the 900P, so that's what I went with.

Only by buying it secondhand or by ordering it from Asia/Europe(?).

3U is available in the Canadian market.

When I went to buy my 900P I also tested a T and wasn't keen on it. The T is better for defensive transitions and cuts through the air better (probably due to aero section).

However, my timing was not as natural as with the P, and the T seemed to swing with less momentum. This wasn't due to balance - it's hard to explain, but the T seemed to kick differently (further up the shaft than the P). It also seemed to wobble a lot more under heavy hits.

Coming from an 800O I expected to prefer the 900P, so that's what I went with.
no arguments here :cool:

However, my timing was not as natural as with the P, and the T seemed to swing with less momentum. This wasn't due to balance - it's hard to explain, but the T seemed to kick differently (further up the shaft than the P). It also seemed to wobble a lot more under heavy hits.


According to the flyer from Yonex, the placement of the Elastic Ti is different for 900P and 900T.

900T is at 10 & 2 o'clock and 900P is at 4 and 8 o'clock.
This explains the different kick to the swing feel, i supposed.

According to the flyer from Yonex, the placement of the Elastic Ti is different for 900P and 900T.

900T is at 10 & 2 o'clock and 900P is at 4 and 8 o'clock.
This explains the different kick to the swing feel, i supposed.
Very good observation!

Hi ya, i bought the AT900T 4U G4 a few months ago, and its a GR version, im just wondering, would it break if i strung it at 25lb, 1lb over the spec limit, and since in my smashes i sometimes mishit, would this break the frame?

Cause what i was told is that the GR version racket is a worse quality racket than a SP version, so is it best to string it at 24lb, or should i go with what i usally use, 25lb or would that be too risky?

But i also had a different comment about it, and that is that GR version is the better quality than the SP version, so which is the truth???

I doubt there's much of a difference. It's fine to string it to your normal tension, as firstly, you don't have a warranty, and secondly, this racket can definitely handle more.

Tsumaranai is right :)

The AT900T takes high tensions without a murmur.
Be warned, however, that a mishit could snap the frame.
(I lost one during a smash - it was strung at 29 pounds.)

On the professional circuit, it's very common for the AT900T to be strung at tensions in excess of 29 pounds. Taufik Hidayat, Cai Yun, the Chinese WD tomboys... all of them use high tensions.

The maximum specified tension is Yonex's CYA method.
It's to keep those warranty claims from ballooning ;)

If you string at or under the recommended tension you might be able to get a replacement.

Just strung mine @ 29lbs. Normally I string mine @ 28lbs. Now I think I'm luvin 29. Crispylicious:D

So AT900T is more of an all round racquet than the AT900P? Overall, which one performs better?

So AT900T is more of an all round racquet than the AT900P? Overall, which one performs better?

The AT900P has slightly more power but defence is much lower so AT900T performs better overall.

So AT900T is more of an all round racquet than the AT900P? Overall, which one performs better?
If the At900P is anything like the AT700, then the AT900T is faster, slightly less power, easier to swing around, more balanced overall.

So the difference in power in AT900T and AT900P is not that much?

So the difference in power in AT900T and AT900P is not that much?

You won't notice a major difference.

I played with an Armortec 900 Power for about four months, using it at various tournaments. When I got my Armortec 900 Technique a few weeks ago, I thought it would be a quick transition since they're about equally head-heavy (Power just slightly more so than Technique), they're both 4UG4, etc. Well, I was surprised.

Due to the Technique's aero frame, it cuts through the air much faster than I had expected it would. It almost doesn't even feel as head heavy since it is so maneuverable (also might be due to adding overgrip, which changes the balance point). I also did notice that, like others have said, the racket tends to "kick" higher up on the shaft. This is due to the Elastic Ti being placed at the top of the frame rather than the bottom, I suppose. Anyway, I can't comment on the power just yet because I am changing my smashing technique to a more proper one (with more pronation) and thus my timing and everything is off.

I feel like this is a great racket for me to adjust my technique though, because I noticed that previously I was relying on mass in the head to give my shot power, and consequently I never developed a fast swing speed. I think it's well worth getting the Technique over the Power in terms of how it will help you improve (the 900 Power feels like a typical racket.. so if you develop any bad habits it might not be entirely noticeable). Personally I find the tradeoff between power and maneuverability/control to be well worth it (as compared to the 900 Power).

Tsumaranai is right :)

The AT900T takes high tensions without a murmur.
Be warned, however, that a mishit could snap the frame.
(I lost one during a smash - it was strung at 29 pounds.)

On the professional circuit, it's very common for the AT900T to be strung at tensions in excess of 29 pounds. Taufik Hidayat, Cai Yun, the Chinese WD tomboys... all of them use high tensions.

The maximum specified tension is Yonex's CYA method.
It's to keep those warranty claims from ballooning ;)

are you saying that a mishit, even at 24lbs could snap the frame (man, that must suck)

are you saying that a mishit, even at 24lbs could snap the frame (man, that must suck)
that could happen though...whether its a defect or stringer's fault, it can still happen. its just way less likely than a racket string at say...30lbs

is this racket more suitable for singles players?

are there many doubles players who use this racket?

This racket is suitable (in my opinion) for both singles and doubles as it quite manouverable but still has good power. It has been used by both international singles (taufik, Hafiz Hashim) and doubles player (cant remember the names but have seen it being used:)). As it has been a racket which has been out for a few years, more of the international players have switched over to other rackets notebly the arcsabre series.

A good allround racket, have a look at dinkalots racket review, gives u a good idea about the racket..

i think you mean lars paaske

maybe....i'm sure i've seen cai yun using it at one point...but like i said, many people have changed over to the newer ranges

The AT900T is a great racket, very versatile because at 22-24lbs it's a very forgiving intermediate players' racket with good power and great touch, and at higher tensions it serves some of the world's best equally as well.

Not too many high end rackets can claim that IMHO.

The T is a fantastic racket.

thanks guys for all the opinions and feedback. going to get one soon to add to my collection.

just wish the price wasnt as if it just came out this year!

Hey, I'm in Melbs too adonis. Couple of things to remember - Stadium will sell at their eBay prices if you walk into their shop and ask for them, otherwise you'll get straight retail which is a bit more. Also, James at Calibre in Sydney has good prices on rackets and is worth a look. Should cost you about 245 strung. Mine is at about 22lbs and although people around here would swear you'd need at least 26+, that's ******** unless you're an advanced player. Under 24lbs and you'll have good power AND control.

Don't be surprised by the 900T's head heaviness - I can make reflexive defence shots with this thing better than I can my ArcSaber Z-Slash.

Hey, I'm in Melbs too adonis. Couple of things to remember - Stadium will sell at their eBay prices if you walk into their shop and ask for them, otherwise you'll get straight retail which is a bit more. Also, James at Calibre in Sydney has good prices on rackets and is worth a look. Should cost you about 245 strung. Mine is at about 22lbs and although people around here would swear you'd need at least 26+, that's ******** unless you're an advanced player. Under 24lbs and you'll have good power AND control.

Don't be surprised by the 900T's head heaviness - I can make reflexive defence shots with this thing better than I can my ArcSaber Z-Slash.

Thanks bro for your info. I do know Stadium, have bought few things from them.. only through eBay of course! I live near that are so pick up saves that little bit!
Have just ordered mine, strung at 25lbs. Hope that's good enough!

HAHA seems we're quite similar, after I get my AT900T, we'll both have the same two rackets!

Sweet. I hope I can get my ZS sorted out, because when you take it out of the bag people go 'oooooooh'. :D

900T is a bit more anonymous. :o

Oh, and go with white BG80's - Stadium does the neon yellow as standard. I learned the hard way. White = hawt / neon = not so hawt.

Strung my AT900T(3UG5) recently with red Nanogy98 at 26/27lbs. Somehow, it felt hollow and lacks power during play. Can anyone share why this 'hollow' feeling comes around? Before this i strung it with BG68Ti(25/26lbs) without any problem.

So, go back to the BG68Ti.

I don't like the Nanogy series strings at all. I have a Head strung with them and I think they completely lack feel, and yeah, the Head feels 'hollow' too.

It can't be the 900T because strung with BG80, it's solid.

eh but everybody says the nanogy98 has good power as well as control? i have yet to try it though.

what do you think of the bg85? for at900t

Yea, thats what im thinkin of Nanogy98. Its supposed to be the best 0.66 string right now, in terms of power and feel. But this doesn't feel good to me, wrong combination i guess!!
Tiger, what d tension of BG80 on your AT900T? Solid in terms of power and control?

It was badly strung at 24lbs and is now sub 22 I reckon. Touch is great but after going on a smashfest with the ZS, it lacks power, bigtime. When I get a chance I'll restring it with probably Zymax 67 at 24lbs and I reckon it will be good.

You can get it at stringersworld.com where I get all my strings from.

tiger, so you're overall happy with the bg80? have you tried it with the bg85?

do you string your rackets yourelf?

Bro, i find bg85 a little lack of repulsion when i test it out on AT900T. On the packing, it states 'Hard Feeling', and its really hard. And i guess you really need strong wrist to play with it. Just my opinion!

U need To use your wrist when using bg 85 cause the typical string is for wristy player , tactical player or deceptive player.

But according Japan Yonex Catalog the best string for AT 900 T is Nanogy 98

Hi Kristian, agree with you on bg85. I think i need some time to get used to nanogy98.
Btw, thanx for your view n info.

Hi all,

I am planning to add Yonex AT900T in my collection. Just a few questions here hope some one can share:

1) Anyone tried JP version, 3UG4 of this racket? In Beijing i can get JP AT900T imported directly from Japan at RMB1380 (Around AUD 220) without sipment cost yet. I think it is a super deal.

2) Anyone strung their AT900T at 29lbs? In Beijing, it seems all racket sellers advice buyers not to string Yonex rackets at high pound (not more trhan 26lbs :confused::confused::confused:) . But in the clubs i play, most Yonex are strung at 27lbs and above. Anyone with AT900T at 29lbs and have problem? (frame crack, broke, etc.)

Thanks.
Cheers.

Hi all,

I am planning to add Yonex AT900T in my collection. Just a few questions here hope some one can share:

1) Anyone tried JP version, 3UG4 of this racket? In Beijing i can get JP AT900T imported directly from Japan at RMB1380 (Around AUD 220) without sipment cost yet. I think it is a super deal.

2) Anyone strung their AT900T at 29lbs? In Beijing, it seems all racket sellers advice buyers not to string Yonex rackets at high pound (not more trhan 26lbs :confused::confused::confused:) . But in the clubs i play, most Yonex are strung at 27lbs and above. Anyone with AT900T at 29lbs and have problem? (frame crack, broke, etc.)

Thanks.
Cheers.
IMHO I would just get the JP version of the AT900s for the "Gummetal" thing. All others are "Elastic Ti", which looks mediocre. The deal you're being offered seems killer, I would advise you to take it.

It really depends on how strong your whole arm is and if you have the correct swing technique. IMHO the sellers don't advise such tensions because most players there use the thicker durable strings which will resist to break during clashes and possibly pull the frame apart (the collision impact force has to go somewhere). Perhaps you may find the NBG98 (0.66mm diameter) suitable for stringing up to high tensions while be strong enough to hold the cold dry weather and still be able to "safety break" during clashes.

It really depends on how strong your whole arm is and if you have the correct swing technique. IMHO the sellers don't advise such tensions because most players there use the thicker durable strings which will resist to break during clashes and possibly pull the frame apart (the collision impact force has to go somewhere). Perhaps you may find the NBG98 (0.66mm diameter) suitable for stringing up to high tensions while be strong enough to hold the cold dry weather and still be able to "safety break" during clashes.

I normally string all my rackets at 29lbs. Been quite used to this weight for 2 years plus now. Before this is use 26-27lbs. What i am curiouse is the sellers over here advice against high string pound to "protect" the racket.
I am a native malaysian and in my country i never heard of comments like this. SO just curious to find out. Maybe got to do with warranty? (but if i do get a JP coded racket inside China, the warranty is a no brainer as well, as it will nto be covered)

Thanks anyway on the advice.
Cheers.

I normally string all my rackets at 29lbs. Been quite used to this weight for 2 years plus now. Before this is use 26-27lbs. What i am curiouse is the sellers over here advice against high string pound to "protect" the racket.
I am a native malaysian and in my country i never heard of comments like this. SO just curious to find out. Maybe got to do with warranty? (but if i do get a JP coded racket inside China, the warranty is a no brainer as well, as it will nto be covered)

Thanks anyway on the advice.
Cheers.
Well personally I kind of agree with the theory of stringing the racquets slightly lower. One thing is that if you clash it, your string breaks rather than your racquet so you won't lose that RM600+ worth of money (compared to RM30+ for the string). Secondly, if you ask for a higher tension, the stringers will have to be more careful in handling the racquet during stringing as a mistake may kill the racquet frame immediately.

I do know that in Malaysia and the South East Asian countries the stringers tend to do things slightly less organised (such as preferring the quicker one-piece stringing to the recommended two-piece) compared to other pro-stringers. It can be expected since they handle quite a lot of racquets each day and charge reasonable service prices, but we're not pros and can't afford replacing our broken racquets often.

Well personally I kind of agree with the theory of stringing the racquets slightly lower. One thing is that if you clash it, your string breaks rather than your racquet so you won't lose that RM600+ worth of money (compared to RM30+ for the string). Secondly, if you ask for a higher tension, the stringers will have to be more careful in handling the racquet during stringing as a mistake may kill the racquet frame immediately.

I do know that in Malaysia and the South East Asian countries the stringers tend to do things slightly less organised (such as preferring the quicker one-piece stringing to the recommended two-piece) compared to other pro-stringers. It can be expected since they handle quite a lot of racquets each day and charge reasonable service prices, but we're not pros and can't afford replacing our broken racquets often.

Hahaahaa i guess u r right. Thanks dude.
Normally in doubles, i rather miss the shot than broke my rackets (due to clashing) hehehehe especially if ur partner is some "over enthusiastic" partner hehehehehe.
:D

Hahaahaa i guess u r right. Thanks dude.
Normally in doubles, i rather miss the shot than broke my rackets (due to clashing) hehehehe especially if ur partner is some "over enthusiastic" partner hehehehehe.
:D

agree, no matter how well you try to avoid clashing (especially when the birdie land in the middle), some "over enthusiastic" partner (killer) will even play your part (the birdie was in my line) and "bang" ! :crying:

agree, no matter how well you try to avoid clashing (especially when the birdie land in the middle), some "over enthusiastic" partner (killer) will even play your part (the birdie was in my line) and "bang" ! :crying:
What to do. We are social and the "over enthusiastic" are Rambo Pro mah. :D
Can't be help anyway, part of the game, more so for us, social players.
The same analogy applies on the Malaysian Road traffic as well.
Ok Ok back to the topic AT900T .
Shall i or Shall i not? thinking thinking .......

What to do. We are social and the "over enthusiastic" are Rambo Pro mah. :D
Can't be help anyway, part of the game, more so for us, social players.
The same analogy applies on the Malaysian Road traffic as well.
Ok Ok back to the topic AT900T .
Shall i or Shall i not? thinking thinking .......
Not all of them are Rambo Pros. I have played with some of them who would rush into every one of your shots which they think that they can catch (which they can't, at all) and end up hitting your well placed racquet. That's how my AT700LTD broke; the shuttle was driven to my left hand and somehow that partner of mine was still able to creep up his racquet from behind me and clash into my backhand.

What I tend to do now is just shout out loud when I see my partner hold up his (yep, normally the guys) getting ready to whack into my racquet as I position myself for an overhead. As for smashes down the middle line, there's really no point in retrieving it at all when you're playing with these people.

What I tend to do now is just shout out loud when I see my partner hold up his (yep, normally the guys) getting ready to whack into my racquet as I position myself for an overhead. As for smashes down the middle line, there's really no point in retrieving it at all when you're playing with these people.

at least you can still shout at them (assume that you can see them coming) :cool:

my racket was murdered from behind. :D

Not all of them are Rambo Pros. I have played with some of them who would rush into every one of your shots which they think that they can catch (which they can't, at all) and end up hitting your well placed racquet. That's how my AT700LTD broke; the shuttle was driven to my left hand and somehow that partner of mine was still able to creep up his racquet from behind me and clash into my backhand.

What I tend to do now is just shout out loud when I see my partner hold up his (yep, normally the guys) getting ready to whack into my racquet as I position myself for an overhead. As for smashes down the middle line, there's really no point in retrieving it at all when you're playing with these people.

Bro, that is the kinda group i am referring to. "Rambo Pro" is just a "sounds nice" title given to this bunch of enrgizer bunny who would chase down everyshot as though they are playing singles, in the process MURDERED his partners' weapons :cool:
In my case, i am a leftie. So u can imagine my cold sweat everytime i partnered such rambo pro , who most of the time i got a rightie. :p

I rest my case :D :D :D

bro tckand, you can get JP At900T AUD220+ shipping cost?

how much is shipping cost?

where can you get this deal? do they have other deals?

agree, no matter how well you try to avoid clashing (especially when the birdie land in the middle), some "over enthusiastic" partner (killer) will even play your part (the birdie was in my line) and "bang" ! :crying:

Thats why I wont be using any of my N9900 in doubles even though it is more suitable for that kind of game. It is Arc 10 for me in double just because the frame is more durable and it usually get away with just a small chip . I broke 3x N9000 x in mens double and all to the same partner. p.s. he prob would say that I broke 2 of his AT900 T . :p either way we still love playing together , and never got too confrontational about who fault it was during a clash

Thats why I wont be using any of my N9900 in doubles even though it is more suitable for that kind of game. It is Arc 10 for me in double just because the frame is more durable and it usually get away with just a small chip . I broke 3x N9000 x in mens double and all to the same partner. p.s. he prob would say that I broke 2 of his AT900 T . :p either way we still love playing together , and never got too confrontational about who fault it was during a clash
My God. Remind me not to play double in Manchester. :D :D :D
just kidding... they are everywhere ....:p

What to do. We are social and the "over enthusiastic" are Rambo Pro mah. :D
Can't be help anyway, part of the game, more so for us, social players.
The same analogy applies on the Malaysian Road traffic as well.
Ok Ok back to the topic AT900T .
Shall i or Shall i not? thinking thinking .......

I tried the AT900T before. The racket has a very "ping" feel, doesnt feel solid. I feel, the AT900P is a much better racket if you are looking at the 900 range.:D

bro tckand, you can get JP At900T AUD220+ shipping cost?

how much is shipping cost?

where can you get this deal? do they have other deals?
Bro,
If you look up at my post, it says "RMB1380, around AUD220, not yet include shipment cost..."
It is available in Taobao. No worries, i know this guy personally. He has contact with Yonex Japan, thats why he can get genuine stuff from there.
Upon confirming order, you need to wait 15-20 days before the JP racket arrive Beijing. And for your case, after 15-20 days ONLY it will be ship out of China. (Not sure though if they ship internationally. I can help you ask, if u SERIOUSLY interested.)

Here's the weblink. He has all the genuine JP rackets and bags, and stuff. My personal JP Yonex heaven. :)

http://shop36233606.taobao.com/shop/xshop/wui_page-cat-36233606-51814708-SlCw5g==.htm?checkedRange=true

And NO, i dunno the shipment cost from beijing to Australia either.
Hope this helps. PM me if u need further help.
Cheers.

bro tckand, you can get JP At900T AUD220+ shipping cost?

how much is shipping cost?

where can you get this deal? do they have other deals?
Bro,
If you look up at my post, it says "RMB1380, around AUD220, not yet include shipment cost..."
It is available in Taobao. No worries, i know this guy personally. He has contact with Yonex Japan, thats why he can get genuine stuff from there.
Upon confirming order, you need to wait 15-20 days before the JP racket arrive Beijing. And for your case, after 15-20 days ONLY it will be ship out of China. (Not sure though if they ship internationally. I can help you ask, if u SERIOUSLY interested.)

Here's the weblink. He has all the genuine JP rackets and bags, and stuff. My personal JP Yonex heaven. :)

http://shop36233606.taobao.com/shop/xshop/wui_page-cat-36233606-51814708-SlCw5g==.htm?checkedRange=true

And NO, i dunno the shipment cost from beijing to Australia either.
Hope this helps. PM me if u need further help.
Cheers.

I tried the AT900T before. The racket has a very "ping" feel, doesnt feel solid. I feel, the AT900P is a much better racket if you are looking at the 900 range.:D

Will try the 900P and see. I have tried AT900T, thats why i know it will suits me. But will see the 900P as a comparison lah.
Another reason is the "color scheme" of this AT900T wins me head over heels, hahahahahaha ..... KILL ME :D

Bro,
If you look up at my post, it says "RMB1380, around AUD220, not yet include shipment cost..."
It is available in Taobao. No worries, i know this guy personally. He has contact with Yonex Japan, thats why he can get genuine stuff from there.
Upon confirming order, you need to wait 15-20 days before the JP racket arrive Beijing. And for your case, after 15-20 days ONLY it will be ship out of China. (Not sure though if they ship internationally. I can help you ask, if u SERIOUSLY interested.)

Here's the weblink. He has all the genuine JP rackets and bags, and stuff. My personal JP Yonex heaven. :)

http://shop36233606.taobao.com/shop/xshop/wui_page-cat-36233606-51814708-SlCw5g==.htm?checkedRange=true

And NO, i dunno the shipment cost from beijing to Australia either.
Hope this helps. PM me if u need further help.
Cheers.

Thanks bro

yeah i understood your message, I said AUD220+shipping cost means AUD220 plus whatever the shipping cost will be.

Will take a look and PM you if I'm interested in an of the other rackets.

My AT900T I got from badmintonshoponline should be coming early next week :)

Thanks bro

yeah i understood your message, I said AUD220+shipping cost means AUD220 plus whatever the shipping cost will be.

Will take a look and PM you if I'm interested in an of the other rackets.

My AT900T I got from badmintonshoponline should be coming early next week :)
No worries. Good 4u. post some reviews or better yet pictures. I just love the AT900T overall color. :D

I tried the AT900T before. The racket has a very "ping" feel, doesnt feel solid. I feel, the AT900P is a much better racket if you are looking at the 900 range.:D


at900t is a very friendly racket to use, good control and decent power when required. just sold off my SP 900t recently, gonna try out a IP 900t..:D:p;)

at900t is a very friendly racket to use, good control and decent power when required. just sold off my SP 900t recently, gonna try out a IP 900t..:D:p;)
Get a JP one for the "Gummetal" decal :p

It's worth it, especially if it feels heavier at the higher weight limit :cool:

what country code is IP?

haha do you think getting a JP AT900T > JP ARC Saber Z ?

what country code is IP?

haha do you think getting a JP AT900T > JP ARC Saber Z ?
IP means International Player, or International Distribution, meaning no specific code at all (Yonex could have just leave that space blank but that will make buyers suspicious). I'mnt sure the relative quality but some people such as ants has seen the IP racquets being pretty comparable to the CP/CN and JP coded ones. I myself don't have a specific comment on this.

The JP Arcsaber Z costs about AU$10 more than the JP AT900s overall. It will ultimately boil down to what you prefer. I bought one JP Arc Z a few weeks ago, but am still very comfortable with using my IP AT700 as my main racquet. It just takes sometime to adjust to the Arc Z, which I don't have much of at the moment :(

oh i thought IP means Indonesia as some people have said in this forum. good that i know, as i honestly find JP rackets much to expensive compared to their non-JP counterparts. IP would be a good laternative.

ahha sorry what i meant was do you think getting a JP Arc Z is better than getting a JP AT900T IF you already had both rackets in a non-JP version? or maybe i'm just being greedy :P

being a badminton fanatic can be bad for your bank account!

oh i thought IP means Indonesia as some people have said in this forum. good that i know, as i honestly find JP rackets much to expensive compared to their non-JP counterparts. IP would be a good laternative.

ahha sorry what i meant was do you think getting a JP Arc Z is better than getting a JP AT900T IF you already had both rackets in a non-JP version? or maybe i'm just being greedy :P

being a badminton fanatic can be bad for your bank account!
I have the JP AT900P, not the AT900T in any code....

But all I can say is that you will be spending quite a bit should you decide to try a Z Slash "regular length" Carbonexes which I think is more user friendly :confused:
The reason I bought the JP Z Slash was just for the 2U version, which is only JP exclusive....

As for IP AT900T vs JP Z Slash (if both are 3U) I would that they should feel similar since both are even balance to slightly head heavy. IMHO their swing character should be similar as both are aerodynamic frame designs. There shouldn't be a good reason to get a JP Z Slash 3U by the way, since I don't notice anything different between the different codes other than the SP shaft decals and the PBSI logo. The AS or NZ codes will be fine I recommend.

By the way the Indonesian code will be IN. The SP and IN coded racquets will definitely have the PBSI logo on the cone.

okay so here comes the controversial question. so since you have a range of rackets with different codes:

Do you think there is/isn't a difference between rackets of different codes?

okay so here comes the controversial question. so since you have a range of rackets with different codes:

Do you think there is/isn't a difference between rackets of different codes?
I thought I just answered your question:
I don't notice anything different between the different codes other than the SP shaft decals and the PBSI logo.
Although if you're super fussy, you may notice that the JP coded racquets are just a tiny little bit heavier by 1 or 2gm compared to the other codes. You have to remember that the weight classes have a 5gm range, for example 3U is 85 to 89.99gm

I only got my JP racquets for the slightly different design (Gummetal for one) and the 2U weight class. If not I'm happy with the IP codes since they're easily available through online stores. IMHO the JP racquets won't make you play better, faster, smash harder, play tighter net shots etc.

The JP Arcsaber Z costs about AU$10 more than the JP AT900s overall. It will ultimately boil down to what you prefer. I bought one JP Arc Z a few weeks ago, but am still very comfortable with using my IP AT700 as my main racquet. It just takes sometime to adjust to the Arc Z, which I don't have much of at the moment :(

Couldn't agree more with you on the Arc Z feel. My SP Arc Z is being neglected most of the time .Poor thing.

IMHO the Arc Z needs to be played using a defensive style, which will hopefully make up for its lack of defense. Once the timing and footwork is there the extra focus on the sweet spot should lend you a lethal smash or drive....

Not there yet myself though :o

Tried my At900T SP yesterday for the first time and i must say it is indeed a very nice racket.
Immediately when i picked it up i can already get used to it, throughout the play, i find it very forgiving, especialyl for some off centre miss-hits.
To my surprise, i can even execute powerful smash out of this so called 'defensive-tactical" racket. Overall it is just sweet.
Only one concern though, at 28lbs with BG65, the overall hitting "feel" of AT900T seems to be "not so solid" as compared to the feel of Arc 7 or Arc Z.(the racket feels like breaking apart everytime i hit the shuttle) Is it because of the frame and shaft, or is it just me??? :D
my new baby is a 3UG5 anyway.

Tried my At900T SP yesterday for the first time and i must say it is indeed a very nice racket.
Immediately when i picked it up i can already get used to it, throughout the play, i find it very forgiving, especialyl for some off centre miss-hits.
To my surprise, i can even execute powerful smash out of this so called 'defensive-tactical" racket. Overall it is just sweet.
Only one concern though, at 28lbs with BG65, the overall hitting "feel" of AT900T seems to be "not so solid" as compared to the feel of Arc 7 or Arc Z.(the racket feels like breaking apart everytime i hit the shuttle) Is it because of the frame and shaft, or is it just me??? :D
my new baby is a 3UG5 anyway.

Like what i said in my previous post about the AT900T, it gives you a very "ping" feel right?:D

Like what i said in my previous post about the AT900T, it gives you a very "ping" feel right?:D
Ahhh so thats what you mean by the "ping" feel. Yeah. I thought it is the SP problem or what. Really scared especially i hit a hard drive, or smash with it. It gives me a "faulse feeling" that it will broke into pieces like that. With Zelm or Arc Z, no such "Feeling". Just Bang Bang Bang Bang all the way. :D
But when i tried my friend's AT900T , no such feeling. His is strung at 26lbs. Oh well maybe AT900T is not meant to be played like a Trixon 8, for a "COW" like me . :D:D:D

hehe,a beginner question here, where do you find the code JP,IP,etc etc etc???

Just some photo shoot of it. Enjoy :D

hehe,a beginner question here, where do you find the code JP,IP,etc etc etc???
Normally it is at the end of the shaft, before the cone.
And the code on the cone, the last two alphabet is the country code as well, i.e SP, IP, CH, TW, etc.

Please use the search function and have a good read about this. There is WAY TOO MANY post to explain this already.
:)

Nice pic...but I prefer white string + white grip whith my baby

Nice pic...but I prefer white string + white grip whith my baby
Was thinking of doing that next round hehehehe :D

I'm tempted by the new Ashaway Zymax 67 in 'platinum'.

@tckang

wah..i will see a JP Badminton Bag on Saturday then...:D

@tckang

wah..i will see a JP Badminton Bag on Saturday then...:D
Shhh wrong post....:o
already using it for tonight. heheheh
C u on Saturday

@tckang
hahahaha... ok2.. C u tonight bro...

Does the Armortec 900 Technique have more power or less than the Amortec 700? What's the difference between control, power, and feel between the two rackets. If someone can give me some info before purchasing one that would be great. Thanks!

Simple. If you want a well rounded racket that's very forgiving yet still has that head heavy punch, that is as good in doubles as it is singles, get the 900T.

If you're a singles orientated power-layer, or particularly strong, get the 700.

Or something like that.

No wait, just get the better looking one.

well said tiger.

in player terms, if you like Lin Dan's style of play choose the AT700, if you life Taufik's style go with the AT900T.

well said tiger.

in player terms, if you like Lin Dan's style of play choose the AT700, if you life Taufik's style go with the AT900T.

Yeah. Bingo. Well said.
I love my AT900T. :D