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chemile
08-19-2007, 06:02 AM
According to BAC drawing will be issued by 19th August 2007. Anyone got information about this?

chemile
08-19-2007, 06:06 AM
Unofficial seeding only for MS and WS:

MS:
1. Andrew Smith (Inggris) BWF ID = 14078 Peringkat 21 dunia
2. Andre Kurniawan Tedjono (Indonesia) BWF ID = 52738 Peringkat 38 dunia
3. Kestutis Navickas (Lithuania) BWF ID = 13460 Peringkat 55 dunia
4. Nicholas Kidd (Inggris) BWF ID = 9460 Peringkat 64 dunia
5. Ari Yuli Wahyu Hartanto (Indonesia) BWF ID = 52741 Peringkat 71 dunia
6. Alamsyah Yunus (Indonesia) BWF ID = 14553 Peringkat 79 dunia
7. Raul Must (Estonia) BWF ID = 51531 Peringkat 91 dunia
8. Tommy Sugiarto BWF ID = 14587 Peringkat 92 dunia


WS:
1. Mi Zhou (Hongkong) BWF ID = 7821 Peringkat 33 dunia
2. Simone Prutsch (Austria) BWF ID = 10022 Peringkat 44 dunia
3. Rachel Hindley (New Zealand) BWF ID = 11216 Peringkat 51 dunia
4. Pia Zebaidah Bernadet (Indonesia) BWF ID = 52730 Peringkat 76 dunia
5. Soo Young Jang (Korea) BWF ID = 52782 Peringkat 78 dunia
6. Fransiska Ratnasari (Indonesia) BWF ID = 15811 Peringkat 91 dunia
7. Maria Febe Kusumastuti (Indonesia) BWF ID = 66974 Peringkat 94 dunia
8. Maria Elfira Christina (Indonesia) BWF ID = 14707 Peringkat 96 dunia

Krisna
08-19-2007, 08:34 AM
Thanks chemile...

Febe is seeded 7th? That's cool... :D Hope she can avoid Zhou Mi until the finals...

Krisna
08-19-2007, 09:37 AM
I also know Yoke-Rian are playing MD. They should be seeded. Maybe 5 to 8 because they still use notional ranking...

I just checked the BWF page for draws. Nothing posted there today about Indonesian Challenge. Only the US Open.

badMania
08-19-2007, 10:29 AM
Quite a strong field for MS. Hopefully Tommy Sugiarto can win the title here :cool:

Krisna
08-20-2007, 05:25 AM
In the GS Under-19, we should see these girls perform:
http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/picb7790189f.jpg
Cisita Jansen

and

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pice45b4cea171a.jpg
Jenna Gozali [on the right]

Jenna won the Central Java Circuit, Cisita was the semifinalist. In the recent Sulawesi Circuit, Linda Weni also won [yet again]. Linda has won the Sumatra, Jakarta, and Sulawesi Circuit. Undoubtedly the dominant force in GS Under-19 [Taruna] domestic circuit. Only 2 other Taruna girls have accumulated more INA ranking points than Linda Weni: Maria Febe Kusumastuti and Febby Angguni.

ctjcad
08-22-2007, 08:41 AM
..for the top seeded WS player, Zhou Mi, as reported in today's Jawa Pos.:
http://versipdf.jawapos.co.id/index.php?detail=or_det&file_det=001200241260
The article mentioned that the HKBA told the organizer that she might miss this event due to an injury (no specific detail as to what type of injury). The organizer has already sent an email to her/HKBA, but hasn't received any replies yet. The article also mentioned that she also had a bit of trouble with her visa's paperwork, but seemed to be fine. If she misses this event, the organizer will have to redo the WS draw.

Krisna
08-22-2007, 10:13 AM
..for the top seeded WS player, Zhou Mi, as reported in today's Jawa Pos.:
http://versipdf.jawapos.co.id/index.php?detail=or_det&file_det=001200241260
The article mentioned that the HKBA told the organizer that she might miss this event due to an injury (no specific detail as to what type of injury). The organizer has already sent an email to her/HKBA, but hasn't received any replies yet. The article also mentioned that she also had a bit of trouble with her visa's paperwork, but seemed to be fine. If she misses this event, the organizer will have to redo the WS draw.

If Zhou Mi is not participating anymore, then I dare to predict that the winner will be either Pia [Pia Zebaidah Bernadet] or Febe [Maria Febe Kusumastuti] or Fira [Maria Elfira Christina]... :cool: I am pretty sure one of these up and coming INA WS will lift the throphy... ;) They all can handle Simone Prutsch and Rachel Hinley. Jang Soo Young is tougher... but Pia should be able to handle her... ;)

My heart will hope that Febe will do something good here before the World Junior Championship. A total win here or even a semifinal result means she will get very good ranking points to be seeded somewhere in the top 4 and avoid unnecessary stumbling blocks too early in that World Junior tournament... :D

Hey ctjcad, will you be in Surabaya next week to witness this feat? :)

Krisna
08-22-2007, 10:20 AM
http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic1322ea60cbe.jpg
Maria Elfira Christina

She is ranked #5 in INA [last time I checked]... I am convinced she will do well this time around... :)

huangkwokhau
08-22-2007, 06:02 PM
Zhou Mi officially pulls out from Gudang Garam Challenge....citing the injury stil bothers her...( not sure what kind of injury)...wish her best luck and recover well.....anybody has the draw??

Krisna
08-23-2007, 12:30 AM
Yup, I also confirm what ctjcad and hau-ge reported. According to Kompas newspaper, Zhou Mi pulled out. Then INA's WS will have a better chance... for $$$, glory, and ranking points [right, vching?]... ;)

ctjcad
08-23-2007, 12:41 AM
Hey ctjcad, will you be in Surabaya next week to witness this feat? :)
..hmm, unfortunately, i will leave Sby next Wednesday, back to L.A. I might swing by the gym where they are holding the event, on Tuesday (1st day of competition) but not sure because the schedule might be very tight and the place is far from where i live..:p

Zhou Mi officially pulls out from Gudang Garam Challenge....citing the injury stil bothers her...( not sure what kind of injury)...wish her best luck and recover well.....anybody has the draw??

Yup, I also confirm what ctjcad and hau-ge reported. According to Kompas newspaper, Zhou Mi pulled out. Then INA's WS will have a better chance... for $$$, glory, and ranking points [right, vching?]... ;)
..confirmed here in Jawa Pos. The exact nature of the injury is still unknown:
http://versipdf.jawapos.co.id/index.php?detail=or_det&file_det=002400241260

Krisna
08-23-2007, 12:58 AM
Zhou Mi keeps getting small injuries here and there, eh? During the Vietnam Challenge, she was also injured during/after her match with Pia. She could not play her semifinal match against Fira...

Maybe Zhou Mi trained too hard... to compensate for her inactivity of the last few years...

CLELY
08-23-2007, 02:27 AM
How many Maria in INA women's squad now? Maria Kristin, Maria Febe, Maria Elfira,....? Hmm, without Zhou Mi attendance INA WS should win it and the best hope is Pia.

Krisna
08-23-2007, 02:36 AM
Agree... INA's best hope is Pia. Followed by Fira [world # 96], Febe [world #94], and Nana [Fransisca Ratnasari, world # 91]. Despite the slightly higher ranking, Nana lost to Febe in the INA Open and performed not as well as Fira in some earlier tournaments this year.

Oh, as far as the Maria-s... there are only those 3 that we know of... I predict we will see 2 Maria-s in next year's Uber Cup team. Either Maria Febe or Maria Elfira will accompany Maria Kristin, Firdasari, and Pia. Nana has not shown good form lately. This Indonesian Challenge should be one of her last tests... If she looses terribly again, then Pelatnas can remove her from the squad...

Krisna
08-23-2007, 02:46 AM
Does anybody have info on the Taruna [Under-19] seedings or draw?

I suppose Linda Weni should be seeded #1 in the Taruna Girl's Singles. Jenna Gozali might be seeded 2nd... Cisita Jansen seeded 5/8... maybe...

Arif Nandang most possibly is seeded #1 in the Taruna Boy's Singles...

huangkwokhau
08-23-2007, 07:48 PM
Chris,

Please call them to get the draw...been told that Draw is done...just curious!

I think CHN did not send their players this time....hope I am wrong!

huangkwokhau
08-23-2007, 07:55 PM
Seems that Turkey has a pretty strong line up for WS: Petya,Ella, Schenk than GGJP

jug8man
08-23-2007, 10:32 PM
any draw or website?

CLELY
08-24-2007, 02:40 AM
Chris,

Please call them to get the draw...been told that Draw is done...just curious!

I think CHN did not send their players this time....hope I am wrong!

You're right, CHN doesn't participate in GGJP INA Challenge/07.

ctjcad
08-24-2007, 04:38 AM
Chris,

Please call them to get the draw...been told that Draw is done...just curious!

I think CHN did not send their players this time....hope I am wrong!

any draw or website?
..my ears and eyes open for the draws...:p

huangkwokhau
08-25-2007, 07:50 PM
PBSI of Eat Java branch threatens to do their own drawing this sunday after repeatedly asking Badminton Asia Committee to submit the drawing as they will have technical meeting on Monday...suprisingly that BAC is really slow...They also reported that they did no9t understand why BAC held the draw as it had been done by August 21 or 22....

I thought it is usually that Indonesia organizer is sloppy when it comes to the draw..alway last minutes....I guess I am wrong this time....

huangkwokhau
08-25-2007, 08:01 PM
Tha draw is out but I do not have it...

in WS....Anita Raj kaur is seeded 2nd....Pia, Yuan kartika and maria Elfire has BYEs....only 28 WS out of 32...
Pia is same pool with Anita Raj Kaur and may meet in qtr final.....

Prutsch of Austria will try Sylvanna Kurniawan in 1st round,...tough for this Austrian girl.....hot and humid may pose the challenge for overseas players....

huangkwokhau
08-25-2007, 08:04 PM
Febby Anguni vs jang So young?? wow....

huangkwokhau
08-25-2007, 08:05 PM
Here is the draw....

huangkwokhau
08-25-2007, 08:07 PM
They say that there has 4 Byes...actually it is not true.....it has WS qualification....sigh!! reporters!! reporters!!!

Krisna
08-26-2007, 12:36 AM
Men's Single
1. 3145 Wee Chung Pei [Not sure if this is a Junior... How come his BWF ID is so un-recent?]
2. 54790 Khek Mong Ho
3. 12377 Yogendran Khrisnan
4. 52030 Wei Feng Chong
5. 52699 Beryno Jiann Tze Wong
6. 52865 Li Qun Chong
7. 52041 Kwong Beng Chan
8. 15601 Chong Chieh Lok
9. 53648 Zairul Hafiz Zainudin
10. 54147 Syed Akhbar Syed Mustakim
11. 54146 Kok Siang Teo
12. 54153 Aik Quan Tan
13. 31871 Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainudin
14. 52108 Yik Xiang Loo
15. 99391 Muhd Syawal Mohd Ismail
16. 54231 Jian Hao Goh
17. 68748 Koe Seang Chew
18. Yu Kheng Teo

For the complete list of MAS participants and others, visit:
http://www.badmintonasia.org/event_details.aspx?eventID=102

Krisna
08-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Where's Bona-Ahsan? How come PBSI did not send them? They're one of the up and coming MD pair for Indonesia...

We know they're going to India, maybe they have to go to Japan or Taipei afterwards, huh? Does anybody know?

samuel882
08-26-2007, 01:23 AM
Men's Single
1. 3145 Wee Chung Pei [Not sure if this is a Junior... How come his BWF ID is so un-recent?]
2. 54790 Khek Mong Ho
3. 12377 Yogendran Khrisnan
4. 52030 Wei Feng Chong
5. 52699 Beryno Jiann Tze Wong
6. 52865 Li Qun Chong
7. 52041 Kwong Beng Chan
8. 15601 Chong Chieh Lok
9. 53648 Zairul Hafiz Zainudin
10. 54147 Syed Akhbar Syed Mustakim
11. 54146 Kok Siang Teo
12. 54153 Aik Quan Tan
13. 31871 Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainudin
14. 52108 Yik Xiang Loo
15. 99391 Muhd Syawal Mohd Ismail
16. 54231 Jian Hao Goh
17. 68748 Koe Seang Chew
18. Yu Kheng Teo

For the complete list of MAS participants and others, visit:
http://www.badmintonasia.org/event_details.aspx?eventID=102

Whre is TCS huh? BTW, watch out for these 2 young guns highlighted in Bold !

huangkwokhau
08-26-2007, 03:28 AM
Where's Bona-Ahsan? How come PBSI did not send them? They're one of the up and coming MD pair for Indonesia...

We know they're going to India, maybe they have to go to Japan or Taipei afterwards, huh? Does anybody know?
May be they are too elite to play the Challenger...:D:D with bombings going on..I am not sure how many players will participate.....it could be INA open instead.....

yannie
08-26-2007, 04:10 AM
Krisna: Pei Wee Chung is senior..

yannie
08-26-2007, 04:12 AM
Whre is TCS huh? BTW, watch out for these 2 young guns highlighted in Bold !

BAM canceled MJ MS trip to Surabaya..
So that's why they won't go.. Including those you marked as bold.
But I'm not sure MJJ (Malaysian Junior Junior) will go or not.. I think not going.
Instead, some of them will be sent to Kedah Open, and Taipei/India Opens..

Btw, MJJ is a name given by me, Erin, Mei Ying and others. It means the younger batch than Chun Seang's gang.. Junior of Malaysian Juniors.. Hahaha. That includes: Tan Qik Quan, Teo Kok Siang.. etc

samuel882
08-26-2007, 04:15 AM
BAM canceled MJ MS trip to Surabaya..
So that's why they won't go.. Including those you marked as bold.
But I'm not sure MJJ (Malaysian Junior Junior - LCC, TKS TAQ etc) will go or not.. I think not going.
Instead, some of them will be sent to Kedah Open, then India Open.

Erm... Yan.. Do u have a FULL list of current player in MJ vs MJJ ??:confused:

yannie
08-26-2007, 04:59 AM
Erm... Yan.. Do u have a FULL list of current player in MJ vs MJJ ??:confused:

http://www.bam.org.my/about.php

Here you can see the FULL list of current MJ and MJJ. :)

Ok, just confirmed that MJ and MJJs are not going. As far as my source knows none MAS players are going, but he's not sure about seniors.

samuel882
08-26-2007, 06:45 AM
http://www.bam.org.my/about.php

Here you can see the FULL list of current MJ and MJJ. :)

Ok, just confirmed that MJ and MJJs are not going. As far as my source knows none MAS players are going, but he's not sure about seniors.

Thanks for ur info & 'source' ;)

Krisna
08-26-2007, 08:48 AM
Men's Single
1. 3145 Wee Chung Pei [Not sure if this is a Junior... How come his BWF ID is so un-recent?]
2. 54790 Khek Mong Ho
3. 12377 Yogendran Khrisnan
4. 52030 Wei Feng Chong
5. 52699 Beryno Jiann Tze Wong
6. 52865 Li Qun Chong
7. 52041 Kwong Beng Chan
8. 15601 Chong Chieh Lok
9. 53648 Zairul Hafiz Zainudin
10. 54147 Syed Akhbar Syed Mustakim
11. 54146 Kok Siang Teo
12. 54153 Aik Quan Tan
13. 31871 Iskandar Zulkarnain Zainudin
14. 52108 Yik Xiang Loo
15. 99391 Muhd Syawal Mohd Ismail
16. 54231 Jian Hao Goh
17. 68748 Koe Seang Chew
18. Yu Kheng Teo




Ok, just confirmed that MJ and MJJs are not going. As far as my source knows none MAS players are going, but he's not sure about seniors.

Oh, if MJ and MJJ are not going, then who are those 18 people? :confused: Teo Kok Siang is not MJJ?

Krisna
08-26-2007, 08:51 AM
Krisna: Pei Wee Chung is senior..

Must be... just look at his BWF ID... only 4 digits... ;)

jug8man
08-26-2007, 08:52 AM
Krisna, I think it must mean a late withdrawal

Krisna
08-26-2007, 09:33 AM
Krisna, I think it must mean a late withdrawal

I sort of suspected that, but I was hoping that won't be the case... no Malaysians... :( then it won't be as fun... :crying: I won't complain about the tons of ranking points that the INA players will gain, but to gain it without playing the players from the other top countries is not fun... :(

yannie
08-26-2007, 09:38 AM
Oh, if MJ and MJJ are not going, then who are those 18 people? :confused: Teo Kok Siang is not MJJ?

Most or all of those 18 people listed are NOT going.

Ya, TKS is MJJ. Hehe.

Sandy
08-26-2007, 09:48 AM
The MJ also pulled out from US Open too :confused:

yannie
08-26-2007, 09:53 AM
The MJ also pulled out from US Open too :confused:

Never supposed to go I think.. Just going to Kedah Open, Taipei and India Open.

samuel882
08-26-2007, 09:54 AM
US is a little bit too far to send the juniors to play there:rolleyes:

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:02 AM
US is a little bit too far to send the juniors to play there:rolleyes:

Yup. I agree... Tickets to the US are expensive... Better to send them to Surabaya... Please don't go to Kedah Open. It is more fun to play against INA players... :D Fun for MJJ, fun for INA Jr., fun for the fans... :D

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:07 AM
Never supposed to go I think.. Just going to Kedah Open, Taipei and India Open.

After yesterday's Hyderabad twin bombs that killed 40 people and injured 50 more... I am afraid they might cancel India Open... :crying:

So anyway, please help influence them to go to Surabaya, Yannie... :D They are registered already anyway... :D Tell them if they don't get experience and ranking points in the Indonesia Challenge, they will only get to play in the Taipei Open. That tournament is tough. I heard China will bring almost their whole team...

It's politics. China wants to show Taiwan how great it can be to be part of such an awesome sports country ["be part of us, be part of an awesome country"]. An enticing offer which means more psychological pressure against the separatists ... ;)

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:15 AM
Former Pelatnas player, Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari a.k.a. "Pipin', will play agains #4 seed Kim Moon Hi of Korea in the first round. If Pipin can get pass Kim, then she has a good shot at the quarterfinals where she might play Fransiska Ratnasari a.k.a. "Nana".

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic6920865.jpg
Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari

yannie
08-26-2007, 10:18 AM
So anyway, please help influence them to go to Surabaya, Yannie... :D They are registered already anyway... :D Tell them if they don't get experience and ranking points in the Indonesia Challenge, they will only get to play in the Taipei Open. That tournament is tough. I heard China will bring almost their whole team...

Hahaha.. Actually I asked why INA Challenge is canceled.. They said coach didn't tell.. Faint. So nothing to do.. Too bad.. :(

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:28 AM
Hahaha.. Actually I asked why INA Challenge is canceled.. They said coach didn't tell.. Faint. So nothing to do.. Too bad.. :(

Aiyaaa... call the coach! :p Use all of your persuasive charm, yan-yan... :D No India Open = no playing experience. Go to Indonesia Challenge = playing experience, ranking points, cheap tickets, close-by, and their names are already registered anyway.

Oh yeah, by the way, cancelling participation = they have to pay monetary penalties... :o

yannie
08-26-2007, 10:32 AM
Hahaha.. How about you calling BAM and give them all the reasons for why they shouldn't pull out, Krisna??? Hehehehe.. I'm sure you can give them better explanations them me.

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:35 AM
I saw Linda Weni's name in the WS qualification round of the adult age-category [a.k.a. Indonesian Challenge]. This means that she will not participate in the GS Under-19 [Taruna]. Thus, I think it is becoming more realistic for me to expect Jenna Gozali and Cisita Jansen to vie for the East Java Circuit Taruna title... ;)

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic553fb1.jpg
Jenna

vs.

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic8ffd9e3c14.jpg
Cisita

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:39 AM
Hahaha.. How about you calling BAM and give them all the reasons for why they shouldn't pull out, Krisna??? Hehehehe.. I'm sure you can give them better explanations them me.

The only guys I have met in BAM are Rexy Mainaky and Punch Gunalan. Now Punch is active in BWF, while Rexy is only active in MAS Sr. I have no influence... I don't have your looks and charms... I am just another opiniated dude for them... It won't work. You do it, please... :p

Oh, I just remembered... I know the tournament organizers in Surabaya. They should convince BAM! Ok. I'll convince them that they should convince BAM... ;)

badMania
08-26-2007, 11:39 AM
Zhou Mi is not even injured at this moment. I just saw her competing in the local event and beat Yip Pui Yin in the Final :cool:

With the Malaysian Juniors not participating (Jawa Pos claimed they couldnt get ticket due to the sheer number of TKIs flying back home for Lebaran :eek:), I hope Pelatnas players like Tommy Sugiarto and Pia Zebadiah can win the event :cool:

Krisna
08-26-2007, 12:11 PM
With the Malaysian Juniors not participating (Jawa Pos claimed they couldnt get ticket due to the sheer number of TKIs flying back home for Lebaran :eek:), I hope Pelatnas players like Tommy Sugiarto and Pia Zebadiah can win the event :cool:

Ooo... I see... that's the reason the MJ and MJJ could not go to Surabaya... :eek: For our non-INA friends, TKI = Tenaga Kerja Indonesia = Indonesians working abroad [usually as domestic help]... Really, that bad huh? Not even going through Jakarta? Like KL-Jakarta-Surabaya? :D

Haha, I can imagine the logistical people in BAM who underestimated the demands for tickets at this time of year... Actually, the fasting month has not even started yet... :p Lebaran is around October 13th... Oh well, I guess the TKI employers arranged it this way...

Anyway, it is less fun if the MAS players aren't around... :(

ctjcad
08-26-2007, 10:37 PM
With the Malaysian Juniors not participating (Jawa Pos claimed they couldnt get ticket due to the sheer number of TKIs flying back home for Lebaran :eek:), I hope Pelatnas players like Tommy Sugiarto and Pia Zebadiah can win the event :cool:

Ooo... I see... that's the reason the MJ and MJJ could not go to Surabaya... :eek: For our non-INA friends, TKI = Tenaga Kerja Indonesia = Indonesians working abroad [usually as domestic help]... Really, that bad huh? Not even going through Jakarta? Like KL-Jakarta-Surabaya? :D
..yeah, actually i saw the same thing also, when i arrived in KL for the WC. On my way out of the exit bridge, i saw se-gerombolan (quite a large number) of TKIs on their way to check in & board Garuda. And if i'm not mistaken, the flight was to Jakarta.:p
On the other hand, on my way back to Sby, using Malaysian Airlines, i noticed there were some TKIs, but not as many as the one i saw.:p
They couldn't get any tickets sounds like a valid reason, but didn't they know/at least be prepared about this for a while (at least 4-5 or even 6 weeks ahead)??:confused:..Althought true, ticket price is not cheap, even for Economy-->if not mistaken, MAS Economy RT price costs around $203/person.

Krisna
08-26-2007, 10:50 PM
Going from KL to Surabaya should not be more expensive than KL going to Hyderabad, right? Or worse, the US Open... :p Anyway, too bad that the MAS contingent won't play. The fans want to see non-INA play against INA...

samuel882
08-26-2007, 11:36 PM
why don't INA cancel this tournament instead of change the status to "Surabaya Closed" ? Since 99% of the players participating here is INA ?
I fink Mas got their own reason.. The Schedule is crashed with KEDAH open.. They need to protect their internal States who giving much effort into organizing this tournament, Therefore their primary will be on local opens for all these Juniors..
Secondly. MJ & MJJ both needs to prove that who is more good over others players on their same ranks.. Its kinda "healthy" competition among them..

Krisna
08-26-2007, 11:52 PM
The Indonesian Challenge will not be 99% Indonesian. :p Ha ha ha. Where did anyone get that idea? For the complete list of entries, see it here:
http://www.badmintonasia.org/attachment/Full_Entries.xls

If the MAS team was so sure they will go to Kedah Open, why were their names in the BWF/BAC list as participants of the Indonesian Challenge. I think they just simply ran into difficulties getting tickets to Surabaya or the Kedah Open dates changed that made the schedule clashed.

samuel882
08-26-2007, 11:57 PM
Sorry.. Krisna.. I Did not know about the exact entry list.. Thanks for the info..

jug8man
08-27-2007, 12:12 AM
Kedah Open is the week after Surabaya Challenger. No clash of dates. I think it was just the matter of no suitable flights available to go to Surabaya.

Cheers

CLELY
08-27-2007, 12:27 AM
OMG, MAS only send 3 shuttlers to Surabaya -- Pei Wee Chung, Teo Yu Kheng and Chew Koe Seang. Really small squad...

Krisna
08-27-2007, 02:28 AM
I am still hoping the MAS contingent will change their mind... We need our badminton crazed neighbours!

Krisna
08-28-2007, 06:13 AM
Latest news: INA's 2006 National Junior Girl's Singles Champion, Sylvinna Kurniawan, defeated the #1 seed, Simone Prutsch of Austria.

Krisna
08-28-2007, 06:15 AM
#4 seed from Korea, Kim Moon Hi, also got knocked out by Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari.

ants
08-28-2007, 06:16 AM
I am still hoping the MAS contingent will change their mind... We need our badminton crazed neighbours!





heheh maybe we will send our 3rd or 4th stringers. Japan Open is near.. need more funds there.

Krisna
08-28-2007, 06:16 AM
Jang Soo Young, seed #6, defeated Febby Angguni of Pelatnas...

Krisna
08-28-2007, 06:25 AM
Maria Febe Kusumastuti defeated Yukina Ono of Japan...
Maria Elfira Christina, defeated Linda Weni, the top leading Junior in the INA domestic circuit... Too bad last year's winner, Maria Kristin Yulianti, does not participate, otherwise we will see all 3 INA Maria-s in action. :p

All the MAS National Team players really pulled out, only 3 club players left in MS, I heard... Tommy Sugiarto got a WO win over Goh Jian Hao of MAS.

samuel882
08-28-2007, 07:21 AM
Jang Soo Young, seed #6, defeated Febby Angguni of Pelatnas...

Not a surprising results :D:D

Krisna
08-28-2007, 07:48 AM
Not a surprising results :D:D

I know... :D I just wanted to notify Febby Angguni's fans... [hey, kidosetiawan, where are you?] :D

samuel882
08-28-2007, 08:21 AM
Any upset or first round casualties ??

Krisna
08-28-2007, 09:51 AM
No big casualties in the MS... #1 seed Andrew Smith and #2 seed Andre Kurniawan Tedjono are through to the next round...

badMania
08-28-2007, 10:25 AM
No big casualties in the MS... #1 seed Andrew Smith and #2 seed Andre Kurniawan Tedjono are through to the next round...

Do u happen to have the entire results? Please post if u have :D
Thanks...

Krisna
08-28-2007, 10:43 AM
Do u happen to have the entire results? Please post if u have :D
Thanks...

I don't have the entire results, sorry. I just ask my friends in Surabaya. That's why my information is scatchy... :o Most of the time, they tend to watch the Indonesian players, seldom do they watch non-INA vs. non-INA [e.g. KOR vs. TPE, etc.], and I don't even bother asking them the scores... :p My friends and I are into the badminton action, not badminton statistics... ha ha ha...

KillerT
08-28-2007, 07:53 PM
Results anyone?

huangkwokhau
08-28-2007, 07:55 PM
Results anyone?


you can see some result thru www.jawapos.co.id (http://www.jawapos.co.id) and click " olahraga"/sport

Krisna
08-28-2007, 08:20 PM
Rabu, 29 Agt 2007,
Tumbang, Favorit Wanita Menangis


Unggulan 1-4 Langsung Tersingkir
SURABAYA - Badai kejutan menggulung unggulan pertama hingga keempat di sektor wanita pada hari pertama Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007 kemarin. Empat unggulan yang berasal dari luar negeri langsung angkat koper dari GOR Sudirman Surabaya usai kandas di babak pertama.

Unggulan pertama Simone Prutsch (Austria) dipaksa mengakui ketangguhan peserta nonunggulan Sylvinna Kurniawan asal PB Djarum Kudus. Prutsch yang nangkring di peringkat 44 dunia itu takluk 15-21, 9-21 dari Sylvinna dalam tempo 30 menit. Air mata Prutsch membasahi pipi setelah dikalahkan Sylvinna.

"Saya tak mengira bermain sangat jelek. Padahal, sebelum ke Surabaya, saya sudah mempersiapkan diri di kejuaraan dunia di Malaysia," ungkap Prutsch dengan nada sedih saat menuju bus antar jemput pemain kemarin.

Menurutnya, setelah kalah di Malaysia hampir tiga minggu lalu, perhatiannya langsung dicurahkan untuk meraih hasil maksimal di Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007. Sayang, ambisi Prutsch untuk meraup poin pertama (untuk perbaikan peringkat dunia) langsung dikandaskan oleh Sylvinna yang tak lain arek kelahiran Surabaya, 19 tahun lalu.

"Saya bermain enjoy saja. Karena kalau memikirkan lawan merupakan unggulan pertama, saya tak bisa main lepas," terang kampiun Milo Junior Indonesia Open 2006 itu.

Kejutan berikutnya datang dari unggulan ketiga Rachel Hindley (Selandia Baru) yang takluk dari pebulu tangkis nonunggulan dari Taiwan Yi Ju Chiu 21-13, 11-21, 10-21. Begitu pula dengan unggulan keempat Kim Moon Hi (Korea Selatan) harus mengakui ketangguhan pemain PB Djarum, Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari 16-21, 17-21.

Sedangkan unggulan kedua asal Malaysia, Anita Raj Kaur, dinyatakan kalah WO (walkover) karena tak nongol ketika namanya dipanggil tiga kali. Kekalahan serupa (WO) juga diderita beberapa pebulu tangkis unggulan Malaysia yang terdaftar pada ganda pria, ganda wanita maupun ganda campuran.

Sementara itu, kejutan rontoknya unggulan tunggal wanita pada hari perdana tak menular di kelompok tunggal pria. Unggulan pertama Andrew Smith asal Inggris dengan mudah melaju ke babak selanjutnya usai menundukkan pebulu tangkis tuan rumah Lalu Hendra Kurniawan 21-19, 21-9.

Di babak kedua hari ini, atlet ranking 21 dunia itu ditantang pemain tuan rumah Yoga Pratama yang lolos tanpa keluar keringat setelah menang WO atas Aik Quan Tan (Malaysia). "Saya belum tahu bagaimana permainan pebulu tangkis Indonesia secara umum. Kemenangan ini tadi (kemarin) saya buat sebagai penjajakan," tukas Smith.

Hanya, Pelatnas Cipayung harus merelakan kehilangan Bandar Sigit Pamungkas, salah satu unggulan (16). Sigit kalah dari kompatriotnya Ahmad Rivai 17-21, 12-21 yang berbendera PB Ratih Banten. "Saya sering melakukan kesalahan. Apalagi, Rivai merupakan sparring partner Taufik Hidayat. Saya tiga kali ketemu dan tak pernah menang," tandas Sigit. (sep/dns/luq/pen)


HASIL KEMARIN

Tunggal Pria (MS)
Andrew Smith (Inggris x1) v Lalu Hendra Kurniawan (Indonesia) 21-19, 21-9; Andre K. Tedjono (Indonesia x2) v Farhad (Indonesia) 21-10, 21-19; Kestutis Navickas (Lituania x3) v Yogendran Krishnan (Malaysia) WO; Nicholas Kidd (Inggris x4) v M. Fadli (Indonesia) WO; Ari Yuli Wahyu Hartanto (Indonesia x5) v Gatruh (Indonesia) 21-9, 21-6; Alamsyah Yunus (Indonesia x6) v Kwong Beng Chan (Malaysia) WO; Raul Must (Estonia x7) v Koe Seang Chew (Malaysia) 21-8, 21-16; Tommy Sugiarto (Indonesia x8) v Jian Hao Goh (Malaysia) WO.

Tunggal Wanita (WS)
Sylvinna Kurniawan (Indonesia) v Simone Prutsch (Austria x1) 21-15, 21-9; Rhanti C. Sanusi (Indonesia) v Anita Raj Kaur (Malaysia x2) WO; Yi Ju Chiu (Taiwan) v Rachel Hindley (Selandia Baru x3) 13-21, 21-11, 21-10; Rosaria Y. Pungkasari (Indonesia) v Kim Moon Hi (Korsel x4) 21-16, 21-17; Pia Zebadiah (Indonesia x5) v Bellaetrix Manuputty (Indonesia) 21-10, 15-21, 21-17; Jang Soo Young (Korsel x6) v Febby Angguni (Indonesia) 21-19, 21-15; Fransiska Ratnasari (Indonesia x7) v Shih Han Hung (Taiwan) 21-14, 21-14; Maria Febe (Indonesia x8) v Yukina Oku (Jepang) 21-19, 21-19.

Ganda Pria MD
Bambang Suprianto/Trikus Harjanto (Indonesia x7) v Chong Chieh Lok/Chai Bon Poh (Malaysia) WO; Titon Gustaman/David Yedija Pohan (Indonesia) v Puri Sety Indro/Deny Setiawan (Indonesia) 11-21, 21-11, 21-18.

Ganda Wanita WD
Elisa Chanteur (Perancis)/Veronika Pratama (Indonesia) v Dewi Tira/Yenny Dyah (Indonesia) 21-10, 21-16; Pei Ling Tsai/Chia Chen Yang (Taiwan) v Deasy Lelyana/Yunita Tety (Indonesia) 21-19, 21-12.

Ganda Campuran XD
Tontowi Ahmad/Cj. Yulianti (Indonesia x1) v Jin Tu Hung/Tzu Ying Tai (Taiwan) 21-9, 21-11; Viki Indra Okvana/Richi Puspita Dilli (Indonesia x3) v Khuei Chun Shin/Ying Hsiu Huang (Taiwan) 21-9, 21-14; Titon Gustaman/Luluk Maria Ulfa (Indonesia) v Hun Pin Chang/Amelia Alicia Anscelly (Malaysia x4) WO
Wifqy Windarto/Debby Susanto (Indonesia x6) v Yan Pang Wang/Hua Kao (Taipei) 21-6, 21-7.

Krisna
08-28-2007, 08:22 PM
Key information from the article:

Sylvinna Kurniawan said: " I just played with joy. If I think too much that she was the #1 seed, I could not play freely." While Simone Prutsch, ranked #44 in the world, said "I can't believe I played that badly. Before coming to Surabaya, I already prepared myself well for the World Championship in Malaysia" Simone had tears on her cheeks after loosing in 30 minutes.

Chiu Yi Jiu of Taiwan defeated Rachel Hindley [seed#3] of New Zealand...

Andrew Smith [seed 1] defeated Lalu Hendra Kurniawan 21-19, 21-9

Ahmad Rivai of PB Ratih who now is regular sparring partner of Taufik Hidayat, defeated Bandar Sigit Pamungkas [seed #16] 21-17, 21-12. Bandar said "I made a lot of mistakes. Rivai now practices with Taufik. I played against him three times. Never won even once..."

badMania
08-28-2007, 10:04 PM
Ahmad Rivai of PB Ratih who now is regular sparring partner of Taufik Hidayat, defeated Bandar Sigit Pamungkas [seed #16] 21-17, 21-12. Bandar said "I made a lot of mistakes. Rivai now practices with Taufik. I played against him three times. Never won even once..."

This is not good for Bandar's progress to lose so early in a home event :cool:

Sandy
08-28-2007, 11:39 PM
PBSI should pulled Achmad Rivai into Pelatnas, so he can play more tournament. He ever beat some higher rank players like Andre Kurniawan or Kendrick Lee.
Between INA players, his level is same with Andre, under TH, SDK & SS only.

He played under Ratih club after moved from Jaya Raya. Beside Pelatnas, only Djarum who can send the players to any international tournament.

Another player who has same problem is Bellaetrix, she played in THA, VIE funded by her families & friends.

Krisna
08-28-2007, 11:41 PM
Rabu, 29 Agt 2007,
Beban Berat Tunggal Wanita Pelatnas Cipayung Fransiska Ratnasari


Jago Diri Sendiri, Perbaiki Mental Juara
Pelatnas Cipayung membidik juara di tunggal wanita pada Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007. Fransiska Ratnasari menjadi salah satu pemain yang diandalkan.

LUCKY NUR HIDAYAT, Surabaya

Fransiska Ratnasari. Itulah nama lengkap gadis berambut pendek tersebut. Dia tampak asyik mendengarkan musik dari headset-nya ketika ditemui Jawa Pos di GOR Soedirman, tempat penyelenggaraan Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007, kemarin.

Sosok Fransiska cukup ramah tapi tegas dalam menjawab pertanyaan. Ketika ditanya target di Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007, dengan lantang, mahasiswi STIE Perbanas Jakarta itu menjawab ingin juara. "Kami semua berangkat dari Pelatnas Cipayung dengan target untuk menjadi juara," kata peraih medali perunggu beregu di ajang Universiade di Bangkok, Thailand, dua minggu yang lalu tersebut.

Nana, panggilan Fransiska, mengaku sering lupa dengan beberapa pengalaman terbaiknya di bulu tangkis. Dia hampir tidak ingat lagi penghargaan apa saja yang pernah diprolehnya dari turnamen-turnamen yang pernah diikutinya. Bahkan, pemain yang mengantarkan Indonesia menjadi finalis Piala Sudirman edisi 2005 itu tidak ingat peringkat tertinggi yang pernah diraihnya di ajang olahraga tepok bulu itu. "Nggak tahu mas, lupa saya," kata Nana saat ditanya berapa kali ia menjuarai Sirkuit Nasional.

Menurut gadis asal Sleman, Jogjakarta, yang selalu bermain di nomor tunggal wanita itu, peluang juara di Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007 berimbang 50:50. Pebulu tangkis yang bagi beberapa rekannya di pelatnas punya senjata pukulan andalan "bacok silang" itu mengaku menjagokan dirinya sendiri untuk menjuarai turnamen yang berhadiah total USD 15 ribu itu.

"Persiapan saya sudah maksimal. Saya akan membuktikannya dengan bermain maksimal sekarang," papar putri pasangan petrus Harianto dan Maria Magdalena Kasiem yang sama-sama penggemar bulu tangkis itu.

Nana yang mulai bermain bulu tangkis sejak umur delapan tahun itu mengatakan kekuatan negara-negara peserta di Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007, merata. Setelah melihat hasil drawing, Nana yang rela menunda kuliahnya untuk terus berlatih dan bermain bulu tangkis itu mengaku akan bertemu dengan lawan-lawan yang tidak diketahui secara persis kekuatannya.

"Saya tidak pernah bertanding sebelumnya dengan hampir semua calon lawan saya. Tapi sedikit-sedikit saya tahu dari bertanya ke sesama teman di pelatnas," kata Nana yang sejak dua minggu lalu setelah kepulangannya dari ajang Universiade berlatih keras demi menjadi juara di turnamen ini.

Kini Nana sedang memantau permainan dari Taruno Megumi. Karena pemain Jepang itu menurut Pia Zebadiah yang pernah berhadapan langsung dengannya, punya kemampuan yang bagus. "Empat orang teman dari pelatnas juga akan saya waspadai. Selain itu beberapa orang dari Djarum termasuk Febe," tandasnya

Bagi atlet yang tergabung juga di PB Jaya Raya ini yang paling penting adalah tampil maksimal. Siapa pun lawannya dia akan berusaha menghadapinya dengan segenap kemampuan. "Saya tidak punya strategis khusus. Yang penting saya akan ngetrack dari awal," ungkap juara lebih dari 7 Sirnas itu.

Nana yang pada pertandingan kemarin berhasil mengalahkan lawan pertamanya, Shih Han Hung dari Taiwan, dengan straight game itu mengatakan sangat beropsesi untuk menjadi juara dunia. Untuk itu calon lawan dari Taruno Megumi di babak kedua itu akan berusaha keras meraihnya dengan menambah porsi latihan. Selain itu dia juga akan selalu menambah jam terbang di turnamen-turnamen internasional. "Saya sedang berusaha untuk terus memperbaiki mental saya," ungkap pemilik tinggi 166 ini.


Data Diri:
Nama : Fransiska Ratnasari.
Tanggal Lahir : 2 Oktober 1986
Alamat : Jl. P. Purbaya 06 Rt 03 Rw 09 Warak Sumber Adi Mlati Sleman.
Nama Orang tua : Petrus Harianta dan Maria Magdalena Kasiyem
Tinggi Badan : 166 sentimeter
Berat Badan : 55 kilogram
Prestasi Terbaik : Finalis Piala Soedirman 2005 di nomor tunggal wanita
Perdelapan final Indonesia Open 2005 di nomor tunggal wanita
Delapan besar Thailand Open 2005 di nomor tunggal wanita

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Key translation:

Nana [Fransisca Ratnasari] said that she felt that her preparation was done in a maximum manner and will prove her maximum skill. "We all came from the National Team to come here and target to become champions!" Nana, who is famous for her crosscourt chops, considers herself as the top champion candidate, howerer, she noted that,"Aside from the 4 National Team WS, there are also several good players from Djarum, including Febe" :cool:

The player who helped take Indonesia to the finals of the 2005 Sudirman Cup said that she forgot how many National Circuit titles she won. The right answer is: 7. She have prepared herself very hard this past 2 weeks after earning the bronze medal at the World University Games. Nana started playing badminton at the tender age of 8. She is obsessed on becoming the World Champion. :eek:

Yesterday she defeated Shih Han Hung of Taiwan. Today she will play Megumi Taruno in the second round. "I am working on improving the mental side of my gamesmanship", the 166 cm tall Nana said. :)

Krisna
08-28-2007, 11:50 PM
PBSI should pulled Achmad Rivai into Pelatnas, so he can play more tournament. He ever beat some higher rank players like Andre Kurniawan or Kendrick Lee.
Between INA players, his level is same with Andre, under TH, SDK & SS only.

He played under Ratih club after moved from Jaya Raya. Beside Pelatnas, only Djarum who can send the players to any international tournament.

Another player who has same problem is Bellaetrix, she played in THA, VIE funded by her families & friends.

I agree with Sandy! :cool: Rivai is better than Bandar Sigit and Indra Bagus. Bellaetrix is better and has more potential than Aprillia Yuswandari and Yuan Kartika. However, PBSI won't do the yearly National Selection this year.

Krisna
08-28-2007, 11:58 PM
Inspirasi dari Muse
Oleh adminRabu, 29-Agustus-2007, 09:14:2522 klikhttp://www.bulutangkis.com/images/friend.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/friend.php?op=FriendSend&artid=2871)http://www.bulutangkis.com/images/print.gif (http://www.bulutangkis.com/mod.php?mod=publisher&op=printarticle&artid=2871)

JANGAN pernah menilai buku dari sampulnya. Jangan pernah menilai orang dari tampilan luarnya. Meski mungkin usang, nasihat itu sebaiknya tak diabaikan. Itu jika Anda tak ingin salah mengenali seseorang.JANGAN pernah menilai buku dari sampulnya. Jangan pernah menilai orang dari tampilan luarnya. Meski mungkin usang, nasihat itu sebaiknya tak diabaikan. Itu jika Anda tak ingin salah mengenali seseorang.

Simone Prutsch adalah salah satu contoh dalam hal ini. Sekilas, pebulu tangkis asal Austria itu tak ubahnya gadis rumahan yang serba melankolis. Maklum, penampilan luarnya mendukung hal itu: cantik, lembut, dan pendiam.

Tapi, siapa sangka di balik penampilan kalemnya itu, unggulan pertama Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007 tersebut ternyata menyimpan sisi 'liar' juga. Ya, Prutsch ternyata seorang penggila musik garang, rock!

''Saat masih remaja saya masih sempat nonton berbagai konser musik rock. Tapi, setelah menekuni bulutangkis, saya harus kehilangan momen itu,'' terang Prutsch kepada Jawa Pos sebelum bertanding di babak pertama kemarin.

Dari begitu banyak band rock yang sempat dia tonton aksi panggungnya, Muse adalah yang paling dia favoritkan. Tak sekadar mengidolakan bahkan. Band asal Inggris yang pernah menggelar konser di Jakarta itu menginspirasi banyak hal bagi gadis murah senyum tersebut. Salah satunya dalam hal gaya rambut.

Rambut pendek Prutsch yang di-shaggy merupakan tiruan gaya rambut vokalis Muse, Matthew Bellamy. ''Saya merasa cocok dengan model (rambut) ini. Selain karena pas dengan tubuh saya yang kurus, juga karena selalu mengingatkan saya pada Bellamy, pada Muse. Juga agar setiap orang yang melihat bisa langsung mengenali kalau saya adalah fans Muse,'' katanya.

Lirik-lirik lagu Muse yang dalam juga menjadi alasan lain Prutsch menyukai band beranggota tiga personel tersebut. ''Meski banyak yang bernada keras, lagu-lagu mereka kerap membuat saya merenung atau setidaknya berpikir mencari makna yang terkandung di dalamnya,'' katanya.

Mengidolakan Muse, tapi Prutcsh sendiri sebenarnya juga diidolakan. Oleh siapa? Oleh para penonton yang menyaksikan penampilannya melawan Sylvinna Kurniawan di hari pertama Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007 di GOR Sudirman, Surabaya. Wajahnya yang cantik jadi penyebab. Siulan, tepuk tangan, dan teriakan pun mengiringi aksinya. Tapi sayang dukungan 'moral' itu tak banyak membantu Prutsch. Dia takluk di hari pertama ini, hasil yang sama dengan kiprahnya pada Kejuaraan Dunia Bulutangkis 2007 di Kuala Lumpur baru-baru ini. (dns/indopos.co.id)

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Key translation:

Simone Prutsch apparently is a fan of Muse, the rock group. Her short hair is actually inspired by Mathew Bellamy, Muse's vocalist. "I am comfortable with it. It fits my slim body and reminds myself of Muse. Also, people can see that I am a Muse fan." :cool:

While Simone idolizes muse, the Indonesian crowd idolizes her. Yesterday she attracted a lot of attention from the crowd due to her pretty face. Whistles, claps, and shouts accompanied her action as she played Sylvinna Kurniawan. But unfortunately, all those "moral" support could not help Prutsch. She was defeated on the first day; an identical result as her participation in this year's World Championship. :o

Krisna
08-29-2007, 01:51 AM
Pia Zebadiah (Indonesia x5) v Bellaetrix Manuputty (Indonesia) 21-10, 15-21, 21-17. Yesterday, Bella played Pia almost to the limit! :cool: Up until they maxed out their age limit on 31st of December 2006, Bella and Sylvi [both are 19 this year] were dominant as Juniors, it is good to see them improving this year...

badMania
08-29-2007, 01:55 AM
Pia Zebadiah (Indonesia x5) v Bellaetrix Manuputty (Indonesia) 21-10, 15-21, 21-17. Yesterday, Bella played Pia almost to the limit! :cool: Up until they maxed out their age limit on 31st of December 2006, Bella and Sylvi [both are 19 this year] were dominant as Juniors, it is good to see them improving this year...

I know that these 2 playeers have been traditional rivals since their Junior days. A rubber-set was always expected :D

huangkwokhau
08-29-2007, 01:57 AM
I know that these 2 playeers have been traditional rivals since their Junior days. A rubber-set was always expected :D
too bad Bella was drawn against PIA...since many Taiwanese players lost and no MAS...I think INA will take MD,XD,WD...also MS...for WS..as longas Jang Soo young lost then WS will belong to INA...

Krisna
08-29-2007, 02:00 AM
Jenna Gozali [seed #2 of Djarum] and Cisita Jansen [seed # 5/8 of Djarum] are still alive in the 2nd round of the Taruna [Under-19] GS today. :cool: We might see a Jenna vs. Cisita duel in the semifinals. If Cisita can get pass Alfa Vivianita [seed # 3/4 from Djarum] in the quarterfinals. Vivi was one of INA's representative at the Asian Juniors a few weeks ago. Today Cisita will play against Rizky Amalia [Jaya Raya].

Jenna will play against Dian Permatasari from Kepulauan Riau and await the winner of Claudia Wijaya [Jaya Raya] vs. Nadya Emmanuella [Tangkas]. I was informed that Nadya is the daughter of former national player and current Tangkas' coach, Kurnia Hu. Jenna will probably face Desy [seed # 5/8 from SGS Elektrik] in the quarterfinals.

The #1 seed in this category is Tike Arieda Ningrum from Djarum. She was a semifinalist of last year's National Junior Championship; lost to Sylvi Kurniawan. The #3/4 seed in the top draw along with Tike is Niken Yulia Wijaksana also from Djarum. I suppose Hera Desi Ana [seed # 5/8 from Mutiara Bandung] and Steveni [seed #5/8 from SGS Elektrik] are tough contenders too.

huangkwokhau
08-29-2007, 02:04 AM
Jenna Gozali [seed #2] and Cisita Jansen [seed # 5/8] are still alive in the 2nd round of the Taruna [Under-19] GS today. :cool: We might see a Jenna vs. Cisita duel in the semifinals. If Cisita can get pass Alfa Vivianita [seed # 3/4 from Djarum] in the quarterfinals. Vivi was one of INA's representative at the Asian Juniors a few weeks ago. Today Cisita will play against Rizky Amalia [Jaya Raya].

Jenna will play against Dian Permatasari from Kepulauan Riau and await the winner of Claudia Wijaya [Jaya Raya] vs. Nadya Emmanuella [Tangkas]. I was informed that Nadya is the daughter of former national player and current Tangkas' coach, Kurnia Hu.
Very interesting..I am not familiar with those names yet,....anyway...they are calling my flight now....Bye all

Krisna
08-29-2007, 02:12 AM
I know that these 2 playeers have been traditional rivals since their Junior days. A rubber-set was always expected :D

The 2006 National Junior Championship finals between Sylvi vs. Bella was one of the most awesome match I ever saw! 23-21, 20-22, 24-22 [or something like this] in favor of Sylvi. I was glad to be there. What a show by the 2 rivals! :D Note: Bella won the 2005 National Junior Championship finals over Sylvi.

Krisna
08-29-2007, 02:23 AM
The #1 seed is Ayu Pratiwi and the #2 seed is Gebby R. Both from Verawaty's training camp in Ragunan. Other contenders include Elizabeth [seed #3/4 from SGS Elektrik], Tiara Rosalia Nur'aidah [seed #3/4 from Mutiara Bandung], and of course the cutie Rischa Meissiani [seed # 5/8 from Djarum].

In the Asian Under-16 championship, Ayu, Gebby, Elizabeth, and Rischa represented INA. Rischa was the only one in the quarterfinals. Lost to a Chinese player... :p

Krisna
08-29-2007, 08:59 AM
#1 Seed Andrew Smith through to the Round of 16. Will face Indra Bagus Ade Candra next...

#2 seed Andre Kurniawan Tedjono also through to the Round of 16...

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:12 AM
Sylvi Kurniawan, last year's National Junior Champ strikes again! After stopping seed #1 Simone Prutsch, she defeated Yuan Kartika Putri of Pelatnas today in the Round of 16.... Sylvi is through to the quarterfinals. Her opponent in the quarter is practice-mate Maria Febe Kusumastuti... :p

All Pelatnas player down today.... after Yuan, Aprillia Yuswandari fell. She fell to Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari a.k.a. Pipin in the Round of 16. Nana lost to a chubby Japanese called Megumi Taruno!

Jang Soo Young [seed # 6 from Korea] fell to Chang Li Yin of Taiwan! I heard Chang will next play her compatriot Chiu Yi Ju in the quarterfinals... Chiu defeated #3 seed Rachel Hinley of New Zealand yesterday...

Lastly, Pia Zebaidah lost to Yu Wakita of Japan. Yu Wakita will face Fira tomorrow in the quarterfinals... Fira defeated fellow clubmate from Djarum, Rhany Sanusi...

badMania
08-29-2007, 09:16 AM
Sylvi Kurniawan, last year's National Junior Champ strikes again! After stopping seed #1 Simone Prutsch, she defeated Yuan Kartika Putri of Pelatnas today in the Round of 16.... Sylvi is through to the quarterfinals. Her opponent in the quarter is practice-mate Maria Febe Kusumastuti... :p

Another Pelatnas player down today: Aprillia Yuswandari. She fell to Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari a.k.a. Pipin in the Round of 16. From the looks of it, we probably will see Pipin vs. Nana in the quarterfinals.

The time's up for both Yuan Kartika and Aprillia Yuswandari. Probably for Fransisca Ratnasari too if she can't win the tournament :cool:

Djarum seems to be dominating the WS with Maria Febe, Sylvinna Kurniawan, Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari and perhaps Maria Elfira Christina in the QF. Pelatnas, on the other hand, only has Fransisca Ratnasari (if she's through) and Pia Zebadiah. Other non-INA players that should be in the QF will be Jang Soo Young.

badMania
08-29-2007, 09:23 AM
Krisna: Any MD and WD results?
U seem to be only focusing on the WS (and some MS) :D

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:28 AM
Sylvinna Kurniawan [Djarum] vs. Maria Febe Kusumastuti [Djarum]
Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari [Djarum] vs. Megumi Taruno [Japan] :cool:
Chang Li Yin [Taiwan] vs. Chiu Yi Ju [Taiwan]
Maria Elfira Christina [Djarum] vs. Yu Wakita [Japan] :cool:

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:29 AM
Krisna: Any MD and WD results?
U seem to be only focusing on the WS (and some MS) :D

I like WS... :p I like to watch catfights... [joking] Can you blame me?

Sandy
08-29-2007, 09:31 AM
Looked like Sylvinna has come back to her form after injury :)
Tough match against Febe, Sylvinna has better h2h record but Febe has big progress this time.

Rosaria also played well after injury too
She remind me to Wiwis Meyliana, where is she ?
Wiwis & Rosaria went down together when trained in Pelatnas. I guess she would one of the best Djarum's WS, she bigger and taller and take domination in national junior tournament.

Sandy
08-29-2007, 09:32 AM
no Pelatnas left in WS :eek:

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:34 AM
#1 seed Meiliana Jauhari - Shendy Puspa Irawati and #2 seed Richi Puspita Dilli - Yulianti are in the Round of 16... They are playing around now... That's all I know so far...

badMania
08-29-2007, 09:38 AM
Sylvinna Kurniawan [Djarum] vs. Maria Febe Kusumastuti [Djarum]
Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari [Djarum] vs. Megumi Taruno [Japan] :cool:
Chang Li Yin [Taiwan] vs. Chiu Yi Ju [Taiwan]
Maria Elfira Christina [Djarum] vs. Yu Wakita [Japan] :cool:

Very bad for Pelatnas players as both Nana and Pia lost to Japanese :mad:

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:40 AM
Looked like Sylvinna has come back to her form after injury :)
Tough match against Febe, Sylvinna has better h2h record but Febe has big progress this time.

Rosaria also played well after injury too
She remind me to Wiwis Meyliana, where is she ?
Wiwis & Rosaria went down together when trained in Pelatnas. I guess she would one of the best Djarum's WS, she bigger and taller and take domination in national junior tournament.

From the information that I got. Wiwis Meyliana is a college student now in Surabaya. Quit the national team at 19 or 20 [in 2005] and then followed her boyfriend to a Surabaya University [forgot what]... She cited that the competition ahead is too tough for her... :o

Well, she's rather good-looking and was known for her academic achievements in highschool [unlike the other INA badminton players in general]... Maybe the college path is better for her...

I saw Wiwis cheering the players on as a spectator in last year's JPGG Surabaya Satellite. She still loves badminton, but realized that her potential is not high enough in this field.

badMania
08-29-2007, 09:41 AM
No Jang Soo Young too :eek:

Djarum has 4 spots, Japan and Chinese-Taipei share 2 spots each. Oh my...this must surely be the end of Fransisca Ratnasari :cool: She can't even win a home event.....

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:46 AM
No Jang Soo Young too :eek:

Djarum has 4 spots, Japan and Chinese-Taipei share 2 spots each. Oh my...this must surely be the end of Fransisca Ratnasari :cool: She can't even win a home event.....

I updated my post #90. Sorry for the delay of information... I lumped all the Round of 16 results there without creating a new post... Yeah, Chang of Taiwan defeated Jang Soo Young... :eek:

I wish I were in Surabaya tomorrow... The quarterfinal lineup should be interesting to watch... :D

Sandy
08-29-2007, 09:47 AM
From the information that I got. Wiwis Meyliana is a college student now in Surabaya. Quit the national team at 19 or 20 [in 2005] and then followed her boyfriend to a Surabaya University [forgot what]... She cited that the competition ahead is too tough for her... :o

Well, she's rather good-looking and was known for her academic achievements in highschool [unlike the other INA badminton players in general]... Maybe the college path is better for her...

I saw Wiwis cheering the players on as a spectator in last year's JPGG Surabaya Satellite. She still loves badminton, but realized that her potential is not high enough in this field.

Thank's for the info Krisna

Yes, she is pretty.
I remember when she left Pelatnas she said won't play badminton tournament anymore and focused to her study

samuel882
08-29-2007, 09:49 AM
Wow..:eek: Taiwanese Gals rapidly are making an impact to challenge CHN/INA soon .. :rolleyes:

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:59 AM
Thank's for the info Krisna

Yes, she is pretty.
I remember when she left Pelatnas she said won't play badminton tournament anymore and focused to her study

I remember Wiwis lacked a particular strong uniqueness... This will hinder her in the future... Usually a world-class player has a certain edge. Whether it is explosiveness [Yip Pui Yin]... stamina [Susi Susanti]... flexibility [Mia Audina]... strength [Petya N.]... height and superior technique/touch [Wang Chen]... or just plain overall superiority [Zhang Ning]...

Wiwis' edge was her good looks and academic intelligence... ;) She was smart to know she should not be a professional badminton player. Just enjoy the fact that she was once a top Junior in INA and go on with life as a regular badminton fan... She has a bright future ahead of her... just not in badminton...

Wiwis was the National Junior Champion before Bellaetrix and Sylvi... Look at this list... familiar names, huh?

INA National Junior Champion
2001 Maria Kristin [Djarum] ...defeated Firdasari [Jaya Raya] in the finals
2002 Fransisca Ratnasari [Jaya Raya]
2003 Wiwis Meyliana [Djarum]
2004 Pia Zebaidah [Jaya Raya]
2005 Bellaetrix Manuputty [Jaya Raya] ...defeated Sylvi [Djarum] in the finals
2006 Sylvinna Kurniawan [Djarum] ...defeated Bella [Jaya Raya] in the finals

Krisna
08-29-2007, 11:17 AM
Krisna: Any MD and WD results?

MD
Top half:
Alroy Tanama Putra-Hui Wai Ho [Hong Kong] vs. Trikus-Bambang [Tim PON Jatim]
Yoo Yeon Seong-Kwon Yi Goo [Korea] vs. Rian Sukmawan-Yoke [Djarum]

Bottom half:
Ali Rasmara-Unang Rahmat [Kaltim] vs. Fran Kurniawan-Ade Lukas [Djarum]
Wifqi Windarto-Alfiat Y. Wirawan [Djarum] vs. Enroe-Agung Ruhanda [Mutiara]

The two Pelatnas pairs were: Fernando-Subakti ...defeated by Ali-Unang tonight and Viki Indra Okvana-Tantowi Ahmad ...defeated by Enroe-Agung in rubber games.

WD
In the WD, I only know that the #1 seed Mel-Shendy and the #2 seed Richi-Yulianti are in the quarterfinals. Interestingly, Richi defeated Debby Susanto [with her partner Komala Dewi] tonight. Richi-Debby were crowned the 2007 Asian Junior Champion a few months ago in KL. This late October's 2007 Junior World Championship, they will likely be paired again [both still Under-19]... ;)

badMania
08-29-2007, 11:47 AM
MD
Top half:
Alroy Tanama Putra-Hui Wai Ho [Hong Kong] vs. Trikus-Bambang [Tim PON Jatim]
Yoo Yeon Seong-Kwon Yi Goo [Korea] vs. Rian Sukmawan-Yoke [Djarum]

Bottom half:
Ali Rasmara-Unang Rahmat [Kaltim] vs. Fran Kurniawan-Ade Lukas [Djarum]
Wifqi Windarto-Alfiat Y. Wirawan [Djarum] vs. Enroe-Agung Ruhanda [Mutiara]

The two Pelatnas pairs were: Fernando-Subakti ...defeated by Ali-Unang tonight and Viki Indra Okvana-Tantowi Ahmad ...defeated by Enroe-Agung in rubber games.

WD
In the WD, I only know that the #1 seed Mel-Shendy and the #2 seed Richi-Yulianti are in the quarterfinals. Interestingly, Richi defeated Debby Susanto [with her partner Komala Dewi] tonight. Richi-Debby were crowned the 2007 Asian Junior Champion a few months ago in KL. This late October's 2007 Junior World Championship, they will likely be paired again [both still Under-19]... ;)

Thanks for the updates...greatly appreciated :D

What a disaster for Team Pelatnas in WS and MD...all lost today :mad: Isn't Wiqfy/Alfiat in Pelatnas already? Rian/Yoke have a tough draw tomorrow and probably in the SF too. The other Djarum pair Fran/Ade should make it to the Final :cool:

Krisna
08-29-2007, 12:24 PM
Thanks for the updates...greatly appreciated :D

What a disaster for Team Pelatnas in WS and MD...all lost today :mad: Isn't Wiqfy/Alfiat in Pelatnas already? Rian/Yoke have a tough draw tomorrow and probably in the SF too. The other Djarum pair Fran/Ade should make it to the Final :cool:

Wifqi-Alfiat never went to Pelatnas. No national selection this year... :o Djarum funded their trips abroad all year long... Dutch Junior, German Junior, Thai Series, Vietnam Challenge, etc. The only time Pelatnas did finance their overseas trip was during the Asian Junior Championship. Training and lodging etc. are still with Djarum.

Aha! You and I think alike, badMania... I also suspect we will see Fran-Ade in the finals. Rian-Yoke has a chance to join them in the finals, provided that the Korean and Hong Kong pairs won't beat them in the next 2 days... :p

badMania
08-29-2007, 09:09 PM
More upset results in the Men's Singles:
The top-seed Andrew Smith lost to the Pelatnas player Indra Bagus Ade Candra 18-21, 19-21. The fifth-seed Navickas Kestusis lost to Hong Jin-Hoon 12-21, 5-21. Pelatnas yet again suffered another blow as Tommy Sugiarto retired in the second set of his match against Budi Santoso. Alamsyah Yunus. The sole MAS player left, Pei Wei Chung lost to Alamsyah Yunus 10-21, 10-21.

Other possible players in the QF: Andre Kurniawan Tedjono, Nicholas Kidd, Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka, and Ari Yuli Wahyu Hartanto.

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:47 PM
Kamis, 30 Agt 2007,
Pelatnas Gagal Pertahankan Gelar


Lima Tunggal Wanita Tersingkir
SURABAYA - Tekad pelatnas PB PBSI untuk menjadi juara umum Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007 mulai menemui rintangan. Kemarin, gelar tunggal wanita telah lepas. Padahal, nomor yang tahun lalu diajuarai Maria Kristin tersebut digadang-gadang menyumbangkan gelar.

Lima wakil tunggal wanita pelatnas semuanya telah tersingkir. Pia Zebadiah dan Fransiska Ratnasari yang menjadi unggulan kelima dan ketujuh menyerah setelah bertarung rubber game dengan pemain Jepang. Fransiska dikalahkan 18-21, 21-15, 19-21 oleh Megumi Taruno. Sementara, Pia menyerah 15-21, 21-12, 14-21 pada Yu Wakita.

Kekalahan dua unggulan pelatnas tersebut menular kepada tiga tunggal wanita lainnya. Yaitu Aprilia Yuswandari yang dipermalukan Rosario Yusfin Pungkasari (PB Djarum Kudus), Melicia Kurniawan takluk dari Yi Ju Chiu (Jepang), dan Yuan Kartika Putri tunduk dari Sylvinna Kurniawan (PB Djarum Kudus).

"Mau bagaimana lagi kalau kenyataannya sudah seperti itu. Saya yakin anak-anak sudah berusaha maksimal walaupun hasilnya belum seperti yang diharapkan," ungkap pelatih tunggal wanita pelatnas Marleve Mainaky tadi malam.

Adik pelatih ganda pria Malaysia Rexy Mainaky itu berusaha tegar meski gagal memenuhi target PBSI. Apalagi, dua tahun sebelumnya, gelar itu berhasil direbut pelatnas melalui tunggal pertama Merah Putih Maria Kristin secara beruntun.

Fransiska mengaku kalau permainannya sudah maksimal. Pebulu tangkis peringkat ke-93 dunia itu sebenarnya berpeluang memenangkan pertandingan pada game ketiga saat dia memimpin 10-5 maupun 14-11. Sayang, pemain yang mengantarkan Tim Piala Sudirman ke final 2005 itu gagal menghentikan laju lawan yang menduduki ranking 178 dalam duel duel 62 menit itu

"Saya berusaha menguras stamina dia dengan mengajak main terbuka. Namun, lawan lebih ulet dan saya banyak melakukan kesalahan sendiri," sesal Fransiska.

Dengan demikian, asa Indonesia merebut gelar tunggal wanita tergantung pada tiga andalan PB Djarum. Masing-masing Sylvinna, Maria Febe, dan Maria Elfira Christina. Hanya, Sylvinna dan Maria harus saling bentrok di kuarter final.

Dari nomor tunggal pria, kejutan aterus berlanjut. Unggulan pertama dan ketiga Andrew Smith (Inggris) dan Kestutis Navickas (Lithuania) harus angkat koper. Smith dikalahkan awakil pelatnas Indra Bagus Ade Candra dengan skor 21-18, 21-19. Sementara, Navickas dikalahkan Jin Hoon Hong (Korsel) 21-12, 21-5.

Sementara, Tommy Sugiarto yang menjadi andalan pelatnas di nomor tunggal pria juga tersingkir. Dia menyerah pada cedera ketika bertanding melawan Budi santoso pada game kedua.

Malaysia yang sebelum kejuaraan digadang-gadang bakal kompeitif juga harus mengemasi barang-barangnya. Tunggal pria Pei Wee Chung yang menjadi wakal terakhir Negeri Jiran, kemarin menyerah pada wakil pelatnas Alamsyah Yunus dengan skor 21-10, 21-10. Selain faktor kualitas, hasil buruk Malaysia disebabkan banyaknya pemain yang urung tampil karena kesulitan mendapatkan tiket ke Indonesia. (sep/pen/luq)

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:49 PM
Kamis, 30 Agt 2007,
Sylvinna Kurniawan, Penakluk Unggulan Pertama Indonesia Challenge 2007


Mantap di Kelompok Dewasa, Bidik 50 Besar Ranking Dunia
Sukses Sylvinna Kurniawan menekuk unggulan pertama tunggal wanita Simon Prutsch (Austria) bukan kebetulan. Kemarin (29/8), dia juga sukses menaklukkan wakil pelatnas Yuan Kartika dengan straight game. Pemain nonunggulan itu siap menjadi kuda hitam.

LUCKY NUR HIDAYAT, Surabaya

Sylvinna Kurniawan masih jauh dari tangga juara. Dia harus melalui tiga pertandingan lagi yang lebih berat. Hari ini, dia akan bentrok dengan sesama wakil Djarum Kudus di perempat final melawan Maria Febe Kusumastuti.

Namun, setelah sukses menumbangkan Prutsch dan Yuan, nama Sylvinna menyedot banyak perhatian. Berpredikat nonunggulan, dia menaklukkan lawannya dengan dua game langsung. Itu seolah menjadi bukti kemampuannya untuk naik kelas ke level dewasa. Pada tahun lalu, dia sukses menjadi juara Milo Junior Indonesia Open 2006.

"Saya hanya berusaha bermain sebaik-baiknya. Masalah hasil tersebut, saya serahkan kepada Tuhan," kata Sylvinna mengenai resep kemenangan 21-15, 21-9 atas Prutsch.

Menurut pebulu tangkis kelahiran Surabaya 19 tahun silam itu, kemenangannya atas Prutsch tersebut bukan sesuatu yang terlalu istimewa. Namun, sukses itu memberikan kepercayaan diri baginya untuk menembus peringkat ke-50 dunia tahun ini. Saat ini, dia masih berada di peringkat ke-135 BWF (federasi bulu tangkis dunia).

"Saya minta doa dari semuanya agar saya bisa meraih itu," ucap anak didik trio Ellen Anggelina, Agus Dwi Santoso, dan Fang Kai Xiang tersebut.

Pebulu tangkis yang mulai mengenal tepok bulu sejak usia enam tahun itu tidak membantah jika Prutsch tampil buruk hingga kalah darinya. Beberapa kali, pebulu tangkis peringkat ke-33 dunia itu sering melakukan kesalahan sendiri.

Permainan Sylvinna yang tidak mau menyerah pun membuat lawannya kelabakan. Putri pasangan Sugiono Kurniawan dan Hauw Quinny itu selalu mengejar ke mana pun Prutsch menjatuhkan shuttlecock. Padahal, dengan postur tingginya, Prutsch memiliki keuntungan untuk melakukan pukulan silang.

"Saya buang beban saya di lapangan. Siapa pun lawan, yang penting, saya berusaha bermain sebagus-bagusnya. Itu saja," paparnya.

Sylvinna pun bertanya kepada Rosaria Yusfin untuk menghadapi Prutsch. Kebetulan, rekannya di Djarum itu pernah mengalahkan Prutsch di Rumania Championship 2007 pada Maret lalu. "Katanya (Rosaria, Red), saya bisa menang asalkan bermain dengan penuh semangat," beber Sylvina menirukan nasihat Rosaria.

Indonesia Challenge 2007 adalah even internasional keenam yang diikuti Sylvinna. Dengan jam terbang yang makin tinggi, dia yakin bisa merebut prestasi yang lebih tinggi pula.

Seperti pebulu tangkis profesional lain, dia berobsesi untuk menjadi juara dunia. Untuk mengejar obsesinya itu, anak kedua dari dua bersaudara tersebut berjanji meningkatkan kualitas latihannya. Dalam sehari, dia berlatih selama enam jam. "Secara kuantitas, latihan saya mungkin sudah cukup. Namun, secara kualitas, saya rasa masih kurang," terangnya.

Demi mengejar prestasi bulu tangkis, Sylvinna untuk sementara tidak memikirkan kuliah. Dia sadar, kuliah pun tidak akan maksimal karena dia harus meniti karir bulu tangkis dari satu kejuaraan ke kejuaraan lain. "Semua memang harus dibangun step by step," paparnya.

Namun, dia merasa memiliki kelemahan yang cukup mengganggu. Yaitu, perasaannya yang kerap kurang greget dalam sebuah pertandingan. "Saya harus menghilangkan itu agar lebih bersemangat," ucapnya. (*)

Krisna
08-29-2007, 09:51 PM
Kamis, 30 Agt 2007,
Djarum Dominasi Tunggal Taruna Wanita


PB (perkumpulan bulu tangkis) Djarum benar-benar perkasa di kelas tunggal taruna wanita. Memiliki amunisi-amunisi yang berstatus unggulan menjadikan mereka tim dengan pemain terbanyak dalam babak ketiga. Mereka mewakilkan enam pemain, Tike Arieda Ningrum, Delis Yuliana, Cisita Loity Jansen, Alfa Vivianita, Ana Rovita, dan Jenna Gozali.

Dengan kondisi tersebut, tim asal Kudus itu berambisi mewujudkan final sesama pemain Djarum. Namun, mereka tidak mau lengah dengan mengesampingkan tim lain. "Banyak yang diwaspadai. Tapi, saya melihat ada satu pemain dari Mutiara Bandung yang cukup berkualitas," ucap Sulaiman, pelatih Djarum, kemarin.

Dia menambahkan, dominasi anak asuhnya dalam turnamen tersebut karena penampilan mereka cukup baik. "Tidak ada kesalahan berarti yang dilakukan pemain. Saya berharap mereka bertahan untuk pertandingan-pertandingan berikutnya. Kalau soal status pemain, memang banyak yang menjadi unggulan dan itu cukup berpengaruh. Tetapi, saya pikir, itu bisa diatasi," terangnya.

Sementara itu, keputusan PB PBSI yang melarang pemain asing berlaga di kelompok junior disayangkan beberapa pelatih. Salah seorang di antara mereka adalah Kabid Binpres PBSI Jatim Ferry Steward. Menurut dia, keputusan itu menyebabkan pemain junior lokal kehilangan kesempatan menguji kekuatan dengan pemain asing.

"Tahun lalu ada, mengapa sekarang justru tidak ada. Dengan adanya pemain dari luar, kan justru menjadi kesempatan pemain lokal melakukan try out dengan kualitas internasional tanpa biaya mahal," paparnya.

Ferry tidak sendirian. Pemain muda PB Suryanaga, Seto Danu Kusuma, juga merasakan ada yang kurang dalam Sirnas tahun ini. "Tantangannya menjadi kurang. Mestinya, kalau ada pemain dari negara lain, bisa lebih seru. Tapi, saya melihat lawan-lawan dari daerah lain juga tetap berat," tuturnya.

Mimi Irawan, wakil PB PBSI, menjelaskan bahwa kondisi itu terjadi berdasar pertimbangan dari daerah. Namun, lanjut dia, tidak tertutup kemungkinan akan ada perubahan lagi bahwa pengurus daerah juga menginginkan. "Ini kan namanya Sirnas, jadi ya untuk pemain lokal. Tujuannya jelas menjadi tempat menggodok pemain muda agar bisa lebih berkualitas," ujarnya.

"Yang jelas, tahun ini tidak ada pemain asing dan bisa dievaluasi lagi untuk 2008," imbuhnya. (pen/sep/luq/dns)

Krisna
08-29-2007, 11:14 PM
Top half:
Indra Bagus [INA Pelatnas] vs. Fauzi Adnan [Suryanaga, Jatim PON team]
Hong Ji Hoon [Korea] vs. Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka [Djarum]

Bottom half:
Alamsyah Yunus [seed # 6, INA Pelatnas] vs. Edi Santoso [Kalimantan]
Budi Santoso [Mutiara] vs. Lee Cheol Ho [Korea]


Yesterday night,
Indra Bagus defeated Andrew Smith [seed # 1, England]
Fauzi defeated Ari Yuli Wahyu [seed # 5, Djarum]
Hong Ji Hoon [Korea] defeated Kestutis Navickas [seed # 3, Lithuania]
Hayom defeated Raul Must [seed # 7, Estonia]

Alamsyah defeated Pei Wee Chung [seed # 10, Malaysia]
Edi Santoso [Kalimantan] defeated Shin Kuei Chun [Taiwan]
Budi Santoso [Mutiara] defeated Tommy Sugiarto [seed # 8, INA Pelatnas]
Lee Cheol Ho [Korea] defeated Andre Kurniawan Tedjono [seed # 2, Djarum]

...Lots of seeded players got defeated last night. A massacre of the seeded players! :eek: By the way, Nicholas Kidd [seed # 4] gave his opponent [don't know who] a WO in the early rounds.

huangkwokhau
08-29-2007, 11:19 PM
Andre lost to Lee??? No..no!!..it seems in MS 6 INAs vs 2 Koreans....

hcyong
08-29-2007, 11:20 PM
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/208275.asp
30 August 2007 report

Arrogant power-crazed policemen (not surprising), and childish protesters (what has badminton got to do with it?)

Indons hold anti-Malaysia protests for referee's beating
JAKARTA — Anti-Malaysia demonstrations broke out yesterday in Indonesian cities after an Indonesian referee was beaten up while in the neighbouring country for a karate competition.
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In the East Java capital of Surabaya, dozens of youths searched for Malaysian citizens at a hotel in retaliation for the beating, which allegedly occurred at the hands of police officers.
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The demonstrations came in spite of vows by Malaysian officials to investigate and punish the officers who allegedly assaulted Indonesian karate referee Donald Kolopita in Kuala Lumpur last Friday.
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Four police officers have been suspended pending investigations, Malaysian officials said yesterday.
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The incident sparked outrage in Jakarta.
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Detik.com reported that dozens of youths went to the Garden Palace Hotel, searching for Malaysian badminton players who participated in a local competition. Before conducting the search, the youths demonstrated outside the East Java regional legislative building. They demanded that the Indonesian government lodge a protest against the Malaysian policemen's conduct.
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"Deport the Malaysian athletes from Indonesia," the protesters shouted.
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Similar rallies took place in Medan and Jakarta, where protesters demanded that Kuala Lumpur apologise to Indonesia.
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Several Indonesian lawmakers denounced the assault.
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"This is an arrogant act of the Malaysian police against an Indonesian citizen," Antara news agency quoted House Speaker Agung Laksono as saying. "The government should lodge a strong protest to the Malaysian government."
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An official with the Indonesian Embassy in Malaysia said Mr Kolopita was flown back to Jakarta on Monday and hospitalised with broken ribs and swelling of his face and genitals.
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Doctors have warned he may lose his hearing, she said, adding that the Indonesian karate team has boycotted the competition in protest. "I think he is still unable to walk and he cannot see normally." — AGENCIES

huangkwokhau
08-29-2007, 11:23 PM
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/208275.asp
30 August 2007 report

Arrogant power-crazed policemen (not surprising), and childish protesters (what has badminton got to do with it?)

Indons hold anti-Malaysia protests for referee's beating
JAKARTA Anti-Malaysia demonstrations broke out yesterday in Indonesian cities after an Indonesian referee was beaten up while in the neighbouring country for a karate competition.
.
In the East Java capital of Surabaya, dozens of youths searched for Malaysian citizens at a hotel in retaliation for the beating, which allegedly occurred at the hands of police officers.
.
The demonstrations came in spite of vows by Malaysian officials to investigate and punish the officers who allegedly assaulted Indonesian karate referee Donald Kolopita in Kuala Lumpur last Friday.
.
Four police officers have been suspended pending investigations, Malaysian officials said yesterday.
.
The incident sparked outrage in Jakarta.
.
Detik.com reported that dozens of youths went to the Garden Palace Hotel, searching for Malaysian badminton players who participated in a local competition. Before conducting the search, the youths demonstrated outside the East Java regional legislative building. They demanded that the Indonesian government lodge a protest against the Malaysian policemen's conduct.
.
"Deport the Malaysian athletes from Indonesia," the protesters shouted.
.
Similar rallies took place in Medan and Jakarta, where protesters demanded that Kuala Lumpur apologise to Indonesia.
.
Several Indonesian lawmakers denounced the assault.
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"This is an arrogant act of the Malaysian police against an Indonesian citizen," Antara news agency quoted House Speaker Agung Laksono as saying. "The government should lodge a strong protest to the Malaysian government."
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An official with the Indonesian Embassy in Malaysia said Mr Kolopita was flown back to Jakarta on Monday and hospitalised with broken ribs and swelling of his face and genitals.
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Doctors have warned he may lose his hearing, she said, adding that the Indonesian karate team has boycotted the competition in protest. "I think he is still unable to walk and he cannot see normally." AGENCIES

My friend told me while I was in Bali that big demonstration happened in front of malaysia embassy and Saudi Arabia too ....

There is an tension rising between INA govt and Malaysia as our president said that malaysia has not apologized for the incident yet...

huangkwokhau
08-29-2007, 11:38 PM
KRISNA, any XD line up??

badMania
08-30-2007, 12:10 AM
Oh plenty of upsets....with Djarum's best hopes: Ari Yuli Wahyu and Andre Kurniawan out before the QFs. Now, I am resting my hope on Alamsyah Yunus, who should meet Lee Cheol Ho in the SF. Indra Bagus will have a tough tie against Fauzi Adnan today.

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 12:44 AM
Hope INA Can create all INA semifinal....too bad Pia lost...haiya!!!

Krisna
08-30-2007, 03:05 AM
30 August 2007 report
Indons hold anti-Malaysia protests for referee's beating
JAKARTA Anti-Malaysia demonstrations broke out yesterday in Indonesian cities after an Indonesian referee was beaten up while in the neighbouring country for a karate competition.


Hi hcyong, the following comments are not directed at you, just towards that internet article you posted. So don't be offended, ok? ;)
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The Malaysian press really make us mad by calling us Indon-s! :mad: :p What does that mean? Does it sound nice if the INA press describe Malaysians are called Mala-s or Malaysi-s?!? :rolleyes: "Malaysis police beat an Indonesian referee." Does that sound nice? :rolleyes:

The word "Indonesia" can be broken down in sound particles like this:
In-do-ne-si-a
...not In-don-e-si-a like how that internet article said...

We are not a Katsu-don [beef rice bowl in Japanese] or Unagi-don [broiled eel rice bowl] or Ten-don [tempura rice bowl] country... :D It is insulting to describe Indonesians as In-don! :eek: :D

jug8man
08-30-2007, 03:37 AM
Very sorry about this. As far as I can tell, I didn't know either that being called 'Indon' didn't fit well with Indonesians.

The thing is, as far as i can remember, It is 'proper English' in Malaysia to abbreviate Indonesia with 'Indon'.

Honestly, I think it's ingraved very deep into our culture already and prolly will never change. So please don't take heart out of it lah

The BorneON Baddy Nut

Krisna
08-30-2007, 04:43 AM
Very sorry about this. As far as I can tell, I didn't know either that being called 'Indon' didn't fit well with Indonesians.

The thing is, as far as i can remember, It is 'proper English' in Malaysia to abbreviate Indonesia with 'Indon'.

Honestly, I think it's ingraved very deep into our culture already and prolly will never change. So please don't take heart out of it lah

The BorneON Baddy Nut

Don't worry jug8man, it is just a wrong habit. I do not think our BC friends were trying to make fun of us Indonesians. :)

It just sounds odd and improper, just like if we describe Malaysians as Malaysis...:confused::p Japanese as Japas... :confused::p Chinese as Chis... :confused::p Taiwanese as Taiws... :confused::p

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 04:49 AM
KRISNA, any XD line up for QTR final?

hcyong
08-30-2007, 05:36 AM
Hi hcyong, the following comments are not directed at you, just towards that internet article you posted. So don't be offended, ok? ;)
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The Malaysian press really make us mad by calling us Indon-s! :mad: :p What does that mean? Does it sound nice if the INA press describe Malaysians are called Mala-s or Malaysi-s?!? :rolleyes: "Malaysis police beat an Indonesian referee." Does that sound nice? :rolleyes:

The word "Indonesia" can be broken down in sound particles like this:
In-do-ne-si-a
...not In-don-e-si-a like how that internet article said...

We are not a Katsu-don [beef rice bowl in Japanese] or Unagi-don [broiled eel rice bowl] or Ten-don [tempura rice bowl] country... :D It is insulting to describe Indonesians as In-don! :eek: :D

Actually, it's Singapore press. They probably got it straight from the news agency.

Like jug8man said, in Malaysia (and also Singapore) it is a term very commonly used to call an Indonesian. It's not meant to be insulting. I only found out that it is insulting on this forum a few months back.

samuel882
08-30-2007, 05:42 AM
Actually the terms : "INDON" was popular call among the Malays in Malaysia for Indonesia.. Which is quite weird.. Some of my Malay frans here just want to differentiate themselves with muslims from Indonesia..

ctjcad
08-30-2007, 08:45 AM
http://www.todayonline.com/articles/208275.asp
30 August 2007 report

There is an tension rising between INA govt and Malaysia as our president said that malaysia has not apologized for the incident yet...
..whilst i was still in Sby..And now, the latest news has it that there is some kind of a "sweeping" of M'sian citizens who are staying in Indonesia; incl. all 4 of M'sian shuttlers who are being flown back to M'sia, after some of the Pancasila Youth movement protested and asked the shuttlers to leave..:p
http://suaramerdeka.com/harian/0708/30/nas01.htm
http://www.jawapos.com/index.php?act=detail&id=9173
http://www.thejakartapost.com/detailheadlines.asp?fileid=20070830.@02&irec=1
Personally, i feel it's really unfortunate this incident had to happen:(:p. Really really bad, this reminds me a bit of an incident which occurred in the 60s between INA and MAS (during Tunku Abdurrahman's period) which resulted in some uneasy political ties between both countries. Hopefully cooler heads prevail and not let emotions prevail over senses/rationale..:cool:

Krisna
08-30-2007, 08:57 AM
Top half:
Indra Bagus [INA Pelatnas] vs. Fauzi Adnan [Suryanaga, Jatim PON team]
Hong Ji Hoon [Korea] vs. Dionysius Hayom Rumbaka [Djarum]

Bottom half:
Alamsyah Yunus [seed # 6, INA Pelatnas] vs. Edi Santoso [Kalimantan]
Budi Santoso [Mutiara] vs. Lee Cheol Ho [Korea]


Tomorrow's semifinal will be:
Indra Bagus vs. Hong Ji Hoon [the 2006 World Junior Champion]
Alamsyah vs. Lee Cheol Ho

Pelatnas vs. Korea Junior eh? :)

Krisna
08-30-2007, 09:00 AM
Sylvinna Kurniawan [Djarum] vs. Maria Febe Kusumastuti [Djarum]
Rosaria Yusfin Pungkasari [Djarum] vs. Megumi Taruno [Japan] :cool:
Chang Li Yin [Taiwan] vs. Chiu Yi Ju [Taiwan]
Maria Elfira Christina [Djarum] vs. Yu Wakita [Japan] :cool:

Sylvi Kurniawan vs. Megumi Taruno
Chiu Yi Ju vs. Yu Wakita

Today, Sylvi defeated Febe! :eek:

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 09:09 AM
Japanese WS must be good...now they dominated WS semifinal......any news on XD,WD or MD, Krisna?

Krisna
08-30-2007, 09:12 AM
KRISNA, any XD line up for QTR final?

Sorry Hau-ge, don't have the quarterfinal matchup, but I know today's winners. :) So I know tomorrow, I will watch:

Tantowi-Yulianti [# 1 seed, INA Pelatnas] vs. Fran-Shendy [Djarum]
Kim Min Jung-Yoo Yeon Seong [#2 seed, Korea] vs. Yoke-Meliana [Djarum]

Good effort from the new XD pairs [Fran-Shendy & Yoke-Mel]! :cool::cool: :cool::cool:

Krisna
08-30-2007, 09:13 AM
Japanese WS must be good...now they dominated WS semifinal......any news on XD,WD or MD, Krisna?

Wah, as I was writing, you posted one... Here's WD...

Meliana Jauhari-Shendy P. Irawati [#1 seed, Djarum] vs. Tsai Pei Ling-Yang Chia Chen [Taiwan]
Yasuyo Imabeppu-Shizuka Matsuo [Japan] vs. Cheng Wan Hui-Peng Hsiao Chu [Taiwan]

Richi-Yulianti [#2 seed, Pelatnas] lost to Yasuyo-Shizuka tonight... :(

Krisna
08-30-2007, 09:22 AM
Alroy T. Putra-Hui Wai Ho [#1 seed, Hong Kong] vs. Yoke-Rian [#5 seed, Djarum]
Fran Kurniawan-Ade Lukas [Djarum] vs. Wifqi-Alfiat [#6 seed, Djarum]

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 09:28 AM
Wah, as I was writing, you posted one... Here's WD...

Meliana Jauhari-Shendy P. Irawati [#1 seed, Djarum] vs. Tsai Pei Ling-Yang Chia Chen [Taiwan]
Yasuyo Imabeppu-Shizuka Matsuo [Japan] vs. Cheng Wan Hui-Peng Hsiao Chu [Taiwan]

Richi-Yulianti [#2 seed, Pelatnas] lost to Yasuyo-Shizuka tonight... :(
wow...wow..Taiwanese WD is dominating.....:(:(

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 09:29 AM
Thanks Krisna!!

I hope Sylvi wins,at least we have one INA in ws final

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 09:30 AM
Sorry Hau-ge, don't have the quarterfinal matchup, but I know today's winners. :) So I know tomorrow, I will watch:

Tantowi-Yulianti [# 1 seed, INA Pelatnas] vs. Fran-Shendy [Djarum]
Kim Min Jung-Yoo Yeon Seong [#2 seed, Korea] vs. Yoke-Meliana [Djarum]

Good effort from the new XD pairs [Fran-Shendy & Yoke-Mel]! :cool::cool: :cool::cool:
This Korean is good....

Krisna
08-30-2007, 09:38 AM
Thanks Krisna!!

I hope Sylvi wins,at least we have one INA in ws final

Well, I was hoping for more INA glory in today's WS quarterfinals... :o We lost Pipin to "Megumi" and Fira to "Yu"... :p

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 09:44 AM
Well, I was hoping for more INA glory in today's WS quarterfinals... :o We lost Pipin to "Megumi" and Fira to "Yu"... :p
Were they losing in straight or rubber sets???

Sandy
08-30-2007, 09:57 AM
Alroy T. Putra-Hui Wai Ho [#1 seed, Hong Kong] vs. Yoke-Rian [#5 seed, Djarum]
Fran Kurniawan-Ade Lukas [Djarum] vs. Wifqi-Alfiat [#6 seed, Djarum]

It's mean 7 of 8 Djarum players will play in QF.
Yonathan paired with Alroy when junior

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 10:09 AM
It's mean 7 of 8 Djarum players will play in QF.
Yonathan paired with Alroy when junior
You mean in semifinal, right????
Djarum players is quite impressive in this tournament....except for MS

Sandy
08-30-2007, 10:19 AM
You mean in semifinal, right????
Djarum players is quite impressive in this tournament....except for MS

Ooops
yes, Semi Final round. I mixed with number of players 8.

johnps
08-30-2007, 10:57 AM
Below Reuters report on the pull out of the Malaysian players from the tournament. Hope cool heads will prevail before things get out of hand.

Over 30 M'sians put out of Indon badminton match http://news.asiaone.com/a1media/site/common/blank.gifJAKARTA, Aug 30 (Reuters) - More than 30 Malaysians have pulled out of an Indonesian badminton match over safety fears, an official said on Thursday, after an alleged assault of an Indonesian karate referee by Malaysian police triggered widespread anger.

http://news.asiaone.com/a1media/news/08Aug07/20070830.192619_msia_indon_protest_2.jpgThe Malaysians had been due to play at the Indonesia Challenge badminton tournament in the East Java capital of Surabaya but withdrew following a threat by a youth group to "sweep" Malaysians from the country.

"They will be fined $250 each for not showing up although they have signed up," Budi Haryono, an official at the Indonesian Badminton Association, told Elshinta radio.

The withdrawal comes after hundreds protested in cities across Indonesia over the alleged assault of the referee officiating the Asian Karate Championship by four Malaysian plain-clothes officers in the early hours last Friday.

Agung Laksono, the speaker of the Indonesian parliament, urged Vice President Jusuf Kalla not to go ahead with plans to visit Malaysia for the neighbour's independence anniversary celebrations on Friday, while some legislators called for a boycott of Malaysian products.

The Yogyakarta headquarters of Excelcomindo Pratama Tbk, Indonesia's third-biggest mobile phone firm and a unit of Telekom Malaysia, received a bomb threat but it proved to be a hoax, police said.

Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar expressed his country's "deep regret" over the incident at a meeting with Indonesian President Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono on Tuesday, the Malaysian ambassador in Jakarta was quoted as saying by Detik.com, an online news service.

The referee, Donald Kolopita, was in Malaysia to officiate the event in the state of Negeri Sembilan when the alleged assault took place, said Maxi Pauran of the Indonesian Karate Association.

Pauran said that Kolopita had been set upon by the officers for no apparent reason and, unaware that the men were police, kicked one of them before being beaten "black and blue".

Indonesia pulled out on Saturday from the Aug. 24-25 tournament, before completing final bouts in the competition over the incident.

A senior Malaysian police officer was quoted earlier this week by the New Straits Times newspaper as saying that the incident was being investigated.

The two nations share close cultural ties, but resentment in Indonesia sometimes spills over, often tied to reports of abuse of Indonesian maids or the treatment of the many other Indonesian workers in the country.

Krisna
08-30-2007, 11:01 AM
Were they losing in straight or rubber sets???

I wasn't given that information... :o I just got the recap via sms... Tomorrow I will watch in Surabaya. I can give you a better picture when I watch the matches myself. :)

Krisna
08-30-2007, 11:03 AM
Below Reuters report on the pull out of the Malaysian players from the tournament. Hope cool heads will prevail before things get out of hand.

Over 30 M'sians put out of Indon badminton match http://news.asiaone.com/a1media/site/common/blank.gifJAKARTA, Aug 30 (Reuters) - More than 30 Malaysians have pulled out of an Indonesian badminton match over safety fears, an official said on Thursday, after an alleged assault of an Indonesian karate referee by Malaysian police triggered widespread anger.

The MAS players could not get tickets way before the incident... :p Had to compete with Indonesian maids coming from abroad...

MAS and INA are actually very similar. INA is just way larger, 10 times more populated, and more diversified. We can call each other 1st cousins. But the rivalry between close family members can sometimes blow up... :p But after a few weeks, things will go back to normal.

2-3 years ago, due to some rocks in our borders, we almost went to war. Aiyaa, after a few weeks, we're family again... :p

To prevent future problems, why don't we merge as one nation...? :D That means, our Thomas Cup team can have LCW [1st singles], Sony [2nd singles], and Taufik [3rd singles], then KKK-TBH [1st doubles] and Kido-Hendra [2nd doubles]... backup doubles: CTF-LWW and Luluk-Alven...

Remember when Austria and Hungary was the Austro-Hungarian Empire? They were stronger. ;)

whatsoever
08-30-2007, 11:41 AM
PM Malaysia Minta Maaf kepada Indonesia


Jakarta (ANTARA News) - Pemerintah Malaysia melalui Perdana Menteri Abdullah Ahmad Badawi secara resmi meminta maaf atas insiden pemukulan oleh anggota polisi Diraja Malaysia terhadap Donald Luther Colopita, ketua delegasi wasit karate Indonesia.

"Malam tadi (Rabu malam, 29/8 -Red), sekitar pukul 20.00 WITA Presiden Susilo Bambang Yudhoyono menerima telepon dari PM Malaysia yang intinya pernyataan penyesalan dan meminta maaf sedalam-dalamnya (provound appologize) atas kejadian itu," kata Juru Bicara Kepresidenan, Dino Pati Djalal di Istana Tampak Siring, Bali, Kamis malam.

Pemukulan terhadap ketua delegasi wasit karateka Indonesia itu terjadi pada hari Jumat (24/8). Saat itu, Donald dipukuli oleh empat orang polisi Malaysia tanpa alasan yang jelas.

Dijelaskan Dino, pembicaraan kedua kepala pemerintahan berlangsung dalam suasana konstruktif dan bersahabat sebagaimana layaknya dua saudara dan PM Malaysia menyatakan, bahwa insiden itu tidak perlu terjadi.

Menurut Dino, Presiden Yudhoyono menghargai pernyataan PM Malaysia yang berupaya serta berniat baik untuk menghubungi Kepala Negara RI.

Hal itu juga menunjukkan sikap arif Perdana Menteri Malaysia, dan kedua pemimpin sepakat bahwa masalah itu perlu diselesaikan sesuai jalur hukum. "Presiden menghargai langkah-langkah hukum dan tindakan indisipliner yang dengan cepat dapat diambil pemerintah Malaysia," katanya.

Kedua pemimpin mengharapkan, masalah itu dapat diselesaikan dengan cara yang baik dan cepat demi menjaga hubungan persaudaraan kedua negara yang selama ini berlangsung dengan kokoh.

Untuk itu, ujar Dino, Kepala Negara mengimbau semua pihak tetap bersikap tenang dan tidak terpancing emosi dalam kasus ini.

Ia juga menginformasikan Kepala Kepolisian Diraja Malaysia (PDRM) telah menulis surat kepada Donald Luther Colopita yang langsung diantarkan Duta Besar Malaysia kepada korban yang saat ini masih dirawat di rumah sakit.(*)

Taken from antara.co.id

Does it mean, we're family again?? he he

Can anyone translate it?? My english is not so good.

samuel882
08-30-2007, 12:30 PM
To prevent future problems, why don't we merge as one nation...? :D That means, our Thomas Cup team can have LCW [1st singles], Sony [2nd singles], and Taufik [3rd singles], then KKK-TBH [1st doubles] and Kido-Hendra [2nd doubles]... backup doubles: CTF-LWW and Luluk-Alven...

Remember when Austria and Hungary was the Austro-Hungarian Empire? They were stronger. ;)

That's very good but may yet impossible suggestion:D:D
If both teams are united as an alliance. Even the mighty Chinese team won be able to stop them from wining the TC :p

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 05:37 PM
COMPLETE QTR FINAL'S RESULT:

MS;
Indra Bagus def Adnan fauzi:21-18,17-21,26-24
Hoon Jin Hong def Rumbaka: 21-19,21-17
Alamsyah Yunus def Edi Santoso: 21-11,21-9
Lee Cheol Ho def Budi Santoso: 21-18,21-13

WS:
Sylvinna Kurniawan def Maria Febe:21-15, 22-10( I think it must be 22-20 or 21-10)
Megumi Taruno def Rosario Pungkasari:16-21,21-21,21-14
Yi Ju Chiu def Li Yin Chang:20-22,21-11,21-12
Yu Wakita def Maria Elfira:21-13,18-21,21-14

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 05:47 PM
MD:
Hu Wai Ho/Alroy Tanama Putra def Suprianto/Tri Kushariyanto: 21-14,21-18
Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan def Yeon Seong Yoo/Yi Goo Kwon:21-18,19-21,22-20....very very close match..
Fran Kurniawan/Ade Lukas def Ali/Unang: 21-11,21-10
Wifgy/Afiat def Enroe/Agung:21-19,20-22,21-15

MD:
Shendy Puspa/Meiliana def Chiu/Chang: 21-16,21-17
Pei/Chia def Oku/Taruno: 21-10,21-9
Wan/Hsiao def Elisa/Veronika:21-12,21-14
Richi/Yulianti def Imabeppu/Matsuo:13-21,21-12,21-19...can be the Japanese is the winner....

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 05:48 PM
Wah, as I was writing, you posted one... Here's WD...

Meliana Jauhari-Shendy P. Irawati [#1 seed, Djarum] vs. Tsai Pei Ling-Yang Chia Chen [Taiwan]
Yasuyo Imabeppu-Shizuka Matsuo [Japan] vs. Cheng Wan Hui-Peng Hsiao Chu [Taiwan]

Richi-Yulianti [#2 seed, Pelatnas] lost to Yasuyo-Shizuka tonight... :(
From Jawa pos..Richi/Yulianti won.....hope the news is right...
Then again in the article....Richi/Tulianti lost....

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 05:52 PM
XD:
Tantowi/Yulianti def Suprianto/Wachyuni: 21-13,21-12
Fran Kurniawan/Shendy puspa def Trikus/Tetty Yunita:12-21,21-19,21-15
Yonathan/Meiliana def Viki Indra/Richi:21-17,20-22,21-15
Yeon Seong Yoo/Ming Jung Kim def Hao/Hsiao:18-21,21-13,21-12

Oldhand
08-30-2007, 06:14 PM
Jakarta, Aug 30 (Reuters) - More than 30 Malaysians have pulled out of an Indonesian badminton match over safety fears.
The withdrawal comes after hundreds protested in cities across Indonesia over the alleged assault of the referee officiating at the Asian Karate Championship by four Malaysian plain-clothes officers in the early hours last Friday. Indonesia pulled out on Saturday from the Aug. 24-25 tournament, before completing final bouts in the competition over the incident.

Indonesia pulls out... Malaysia pulls out. :eek:
Reminds me of the US-Soviet 'Boycott Sporting Events' competition in the 1980s. :mad:
It helped no one. :(

One more thing:
Obviously, karate and badminton don't mix. ;)

So much for sporting safety in these countries :confused:

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 06:19 PM
Jakarta, Aug 30 (Reuters) - More than 30 Malaysians have pulled out of an Indonesian badminton match over safety fears.
The withdrawal comes after hundreds protested in cities across Indonesia over the alleged assault of the referee officiating at the Asian Karate Championship by four Malaysian plain-clothes officers in the early hours last Friday. Indonesia pulled out on Saturday from the Aug. 24-25 tournament, before completing final bouts in the competition over the incident.

Indonesia pulls out... Malaysia pulls out. :eek:
Reminds me of the US-Soviet 'Boycott Sporting Events' competition in the 1980s. :mad:
It helped no one. :(

One more thing:
Obviously, karate and badminton don't mix. ;)

So much for sporting safety in these countries :confused:

Malaysia pulled out before the sweeping began....becasue malaysia also pulled out their squad also from US tourney...sometimes the reporters just reported before checking the facts..making it like malaysia started boycotting the Indonesian Badminton ...actually it was not the case.....

Now I heard that Malaysia Govt is apologizing.....I wished that they did it much earlier to avoid the futher tension....

Krisna
08-30-2007, 08:55 PM
MD:
Shendy Puspa/Meiliana def Chiu/Chang: 21-16,21-17
Pei/Chia def Oku/Taruno: 21-10,21-9
Wan/Hsiao def Elisa/Veronika:21-12,21-14
Richi/Yulianti def Imabeppu/Matsuo:13-21,21-12,21-19...can be the Japanese is the winner....


From Jawa pos..Richi/Yulianti won.....hope the news is right...
Then again in the article....Richi/Tulianti lost....

Jumat, 31 Agt 2007,
Ironis


Pelatnas Sisakan Tunggal Pria dan Ganda Campuran
SURABAYA - Tim Pelatnas PB PBSI baru saja menorehkan prestasi menawan dalam Kejuaraan Dunia 2007 Malaysia dua pekan lalu. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan dan Widianto/Lilyana Natsir berhasil menjadi kampiun di nomor ganda pria dan ganda campuran.

Sukses tersebut menjadi bukti bahwa nomor ganda sangat diandalkan pelatnas. Seluruh gelar bergengsi yang direbut pelatnas selama 2007 berasal dari nomor ganda. Baik ganda pria, wanita, maupun campuran.

Namun, catatan emas nomor ganda itu sulit untuk ditorehkan di Gudang Garam Jawa Pos Indonesia Challenge 2007. Setelah wakil tunggal wanita pelatnas habis, kemarin (30/8), giliran skuad ganda pria dan ganda wanita yang harus angkat koper.

Subakti/Fernando Kurniawan kalah dari Ali Rasmara/Unang Rahmat (BGR Kaltim) 21-23, 15-21. Kekalahan serupa dialami Viki Indra Okvana/Tantowi Ahmad yang menyerah dari Enroe/Agung Ruhanda (PB Mutiara Bandung) 21-11, 10-21, 10-21.

Duka Viki makin lengkap setelah kalah di ganda campuran bersama Richie Puspita Dilli. Mereka menyerah dari Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki/Meiliana Jauhari (Djarum Kudus) 17-21, 22-20, 15-21.

"Kami terbebani dengan status sebagai pemain pelatnas. Walaupun main di Surabaya, saya malah grogi di game penentuan (ketiga)," ungkap Viki yang tercatat sebagai pemain dari PB Suryanaga Surabaya tersebut.

Pernyataan senada dilontarkan Richie yang mengaku tidak bisa tampil lepas "Seharusnya, kami bisa menang saat menyamakan kedudukan. Sebab, lawan yang saya hadapi sebenarnya kawan sendiri," sesal Richie.

Pemain PB Djarum Kudus itu juga menelan kekalahan di ganda wanita bersama Yulianti. Mereka dipermalukan Yasuyo Imabeppu/Shizuka Matsuo (Jepang) 13-21, 21-12, 21-19.

Sayang, Bagus Setiadi, pelatih ganda pelatnas, enggan berkomentar soal kekalahan pasukannya tersebut. Meski demikian, pelatnas masih menyisakan satu asa di ganda campuran Ahmad Tantowi/Yulianti. Unggulan pertama itu melibas Bambang S./Siti Wahyuni 21-13, 21-12. Di semifinal, Tantowi/Yulianti akan meladeni unggulan kedelapan Fran Kurniawan/Shendy Puspa Irawati.

Dari nomor tunggal pria, ada peluang final sesama pelatnas. Sebab, dua wakil pelatnas lolos ke semifinal dan tidak bentrok di babak tersebut.

Unggulan ke-13 Indra Bagus mempermalukan pemain tuan rumah, mantan pelatnas Fauzi Adnan (Suryanaga), 21-18, 17-21, 26-24. Selain itu, unggulan keenam Alamsyah Yunus menghentikan langkah Edi Santoso (BGR Kaltim) 21-11, 21-9.

"Perjuangan yang sangat berat. Dukungan suporter dan hakim garis membuat Fauzi benar-benar diuntungkan," protes Bagus yang mengaku beberapa kali dirugikan keputusan hakim garis. "Saya sedang error. Seharusnya, saya bisa ngambil game ketiga saat memimpin 14-6," balas Fauzi yang menyelesaikan duel dalam waktu 80 menit tersebut. (sep/luq/pen/dns)

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The part in red suggest that Richi-Yulianti lost to the Japanese... :confused: Ok, I don't really know since I was not there. But in a few hours, I will be in Surabaya and I will know for sure. As for now, I will assume the worst and consider Richi-Yulianti out of contention.

Krisna
08-30-2007, 08:58 PM
Malaysia pulled out before the sweeping began....becasue malaysia also pulled out their squad also from US tourney...sometimes the reporters just reported before checking the facts..making it like malaysia started boycotting the Indonesian Badminton ...actually it was not the case.....

Now I heard that Malaysia Govt is apologizing.....I wished that they did it much earlier to avoid the futher tension....

Yeah, their name weren't even on the airline booking to Surabaya.... :rolleyes: Nothing to do with 'sweeping'... :p After finding out it was sort of hard to get airplane seats to Surabaya, they were more concerned with Kedah Open.

Krisna
08-30-2007, 09:07 PM
To prevent future problems, why don't we merge as one nation...? :D That means, our Thomas Cup team can have LCW [1st singles], Sony [2nd singles], and Taufik [3rd singles], then KKK-TBH [1st doubles] and Kido-Hendra [2nd doubles]... backup doubles: CTF-LWW and Luluk-Alven...

Remember when Austria and Hungary was the Austro-Hungarian Empire? They were stronger. ;)


That's very good but may yet impossible suggestion:D:D
If both teams are united as an alliance. Even the mighty Chinese team won be able to stop them from wining the TC :p

I thought so too. With that Thomas Cup lineup, I am 60% sure we can stop China... in the Men's Team. I can see how our combined badminton strength will unite our people... :D:p:D

But for the Uber Cup... WMC, Maria Kristin, Wong, Firda, our doubles... won't be enough to stop China... :p Maybe cannot even stop Hong Kong... :o MAS and INA are both not strong in WS.

Note: my suggestion is highly improbable, but not impossible. ;)

huangkwokhau
08-30-2007, 09:09 PM
Yeah, their name weren't even on the airline booking to Surabaya.... :rolleyes: Nothing to do with 'sweeping'... :p After finding out it was sort of hard to get airplane seats to Surabaya, they were more concerned with Kedah Open.
Glad that you will be there....let me know the result so I cna post it for you.....I think you have my US number, right?

CLELY
08-31-2007, 12:14 AM
Malaysia pulled out before the sweeping began....becasue malaysia also pulled out their squad also from US tourney...sometimes the reporters just reported before checking the facts..making it like malaysia started boycotting the Indonesian Badminton ...actually it was not the case.....

Now I heard that Malaysia Govt is apologizing.....I wished that they did it much earlier to avoid the futher tension....

From KOMPAS front-page (31/08/2007) :
Malaysia expressed 'deeply regret'. RI's Vice President still go ahead to attend MAS Golden Celebration as representative of RI's President SBY. INA government doesn't want this case contributes bad impact for INA-MAS diplomatic ties.

Antara's english version : www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2007/8/31/malaysian-premier-offers-indonesia-an-apology

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 01:14 AM
From KOMPAS front-page (31/08/2007) :
Malaysia expressed 'deeply regret'. RI's Vice President still go ahead to attend MAS Golden Celebration as representative of RI's President SBY. INA government doesn't want this case contributes bad impact for INA-MAS diplomatic ties.

Antara's english version : www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2007/8/31/malaysian-premier-offers-indonesia-an-apology (http://www.antara.co.id/en/arc/2007/8/31/malaysian-premier-offers-indonesia-an-apology)

I guess SBY sent Kalla to show the goodwill from Indonesian.....hope MAS can resolve this case....does not do any good for 2 countires if they cut the diplomatic ties...

samuel882
08-31-2007, 01:21 AM
Cheers for Rian/ Yonathan to clear up their biggest hurdle in the QF.. Now they can go all the way to win the MD crown

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 06:32 AM
Courtesy from Krisna:

XD FINAL:

Tantowi/Yulianti vs Yoo/Kim

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 07:41 AM
COMPLETE QTR FINAL'S RESULT:

MS;
Indra Bagus def Adnan fauzi:21-18,17-21,26-24
Hoon Jin Hong def Rumbaka: 21-19,21-17
Alamsyah Yunus def Edi Santoso: 21-11,21-9
Lee Cheol Ho def Budi Santoso: 21-18,21-13

WS:
Sylvinna Kurniawan def Maria Febe:21-15, 22-10( I think it must be 22-20 or 21-10)
Megumi Taruno def Rosario Pungkasari:16-21,21-21,21-14
Yi Ju Chiu def Li Yin Chang:20-22,21-11,21-12
Yu Wakita def Maria Elfira:21-13,18-21,21-14

Courtesy of Krisna:

MS Final:
Hoon Jin Hong vs Lee Cheol Ho

WS Final:

Megumi taruno vs Yi Ju Chiu

Bad news for INA badminton....all lost...:(:(

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 07:50 AM
Krisna mentioned that Megumi played really well...hope he can fill in how she played in semifinal...

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 09:14 AM
MD:
Hu Wai Ho/Alroy Tanama Putra def Suprianto/Tri Kushariyanto: 21-14,21-18
Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan def Yeon Seong Yoo/Yi Goo Kwon:21-18,19-21,22-20....very very close match..
Fran Kurniawan/Ade Lukas def Ali/Unang: 21-11,21-10
Wifgy/Afiat def Enroe/Agung:21-19,20-22,21-15

MD:
Shendy Puspa/Meiliana def Chiu/Chang: 21-16,21-17
Pei/Chia def Oku/Taruno: 21-10,21-9
Wan/Hsiao def Elisa/Veronika:21-12,21-14
Richi/Yulianti def Imabeppu/Matsuo:13-21,21-12,21-19...can be the Japanese is the winner....

Courtesy of Krisna:

MD Final
Rian/Yonathan vs Kurniawan/Ade Lukas

WD Final
Shendy Puspa/Meliana vs Imabeppu/Matsuo

Ai Mei
08-31-2007, 10:38 AM
wew so sad i couldnt come to watch it
hix T.T

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 10:39 AM
wew so sad i couldnt come to watch it
hix T.T
You should go there since you live there...Krisna is there to watch...

samuel882
08-31-2007, 11:36 AM
Courtesy of Krisna:

MS Final:
Hoon Jin Hong vs Lee Cheol Ho

WS Final:

Megumi taruno vs Yi Ju Chiu

Bad news for INA badminton....all lost...:(:(

I fink INA juniors was still has their very own skills.. Too bad Andre Tedjono lost early... He is the player to watch...

huangkwokhau
08-31-2007, 11:42 AM
I fink INA juniors was still has their very own skills.. Too bad Andre Tedjono lost early... He is the player to watch...
also tommy as well...they all lost....:mad::mad::(:(

yannie
08-31-2007, 12:42 PM
Go Rian-Yoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *ha

badMania
08-31-2007, 08:23 PM
also tommy as well...they all lost....:mad::mad::(:(

Tommy retired in the second set :cool:

badMania
08-31-2007, 08:25 PM
Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki should be able to win their first title as a pair, playing their own team mates.

Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa Irawati will have a tough time against the Japanese pair who had beaten Yulianti/Richi Puspita Dili earlier.

Meanwhile, Pelatnas's sole representative in the Final Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti will also face a tough opponent in Yoo Yeon Seong/Kim Min Jung. I hope they can win.

hcyong
08-31-2007, 09:59 PM
I think the Korean MS player's name is Hong Ji Hoon (ranked #172), and not Hoon Jin Hong as stated in this thread. I could be mistaken.

It's a bit confusing because there's also Han Ki Hoon (MS ranked #198) and Han Sang Hoon (MD player).

badMania
08-31-2007, 11:26 PM
I think the Korean MS player's name is Hong Ji Hoon (ranked #172), and not Hoon Jin Hong as stated in this thread. I could be mistaken.

It's a bit confusing because there's also Han Ki Hoon (MS ranked #198) and Han Sang Hoon (MD player).

He's definitely not Han Sang Hoon. Yup, it should be Hong Ji Hoon.

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 08:39 AM
Final results:

WS: Yi Ju Chiu
MS: Hong Ji Hoon
MD: Rian/Yoke
WD: Meliana/Shendy
XD:Tantowi/Yulianti

news from Krisna...

erin_hakkinen
09-01-2007, 08:44 AM
Omigod!!!

Rian/Yoke won!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Yay..!!! thanks Krisna & huangkwokhau! :D :D :D

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 08:46 AM
With this win:

Rian/Yoke will jump to top 90 from 130ish...will collect around 9500 poinst after 3 partnerships...go!! do!! Rian/Yoke..

Tantowi/Yulianti will slip into top 45 at least...good result and good news for INA XD...at least we have 4 solid back up plus Lingga Lie/Lita...
This Korean XD is solid too...wondering if they won in 2 or 3 sets..

badMania
09-01-2007, 08:47 AM
Final results:

WS: Yi Ju Chiu
MS: Hong Ji Hoon
MD: Rian/Yoke
WD: Meliana/Shendy
XD:Tantowi/Yulianti

news from Krisna...

Thanks for the update...Hau-Ge....its great that Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti have won another Challenger event, beating the strong Korean XD back-up pair. They have confirmed that they should be the pair for the future.

Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki have also done well to win their first title as a pair. They should rise up to at least the top 30-50 by end of the year.

As for Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa, they are Djarum's no 1 pair and will also continue joining the Gold GP and Challenger events for the rest of the year.

Hong Ji Hoon has yet again won a title and will be a threat for INA's junior.

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 08:55 AM
Yep..I hope Rian/Yoke and Mel/Shendy will rise to the top teams....let them play more in Gold GP and challengers.....

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 08:55 AM
Hong Ji Hoon will be great to see him rise....we need more stars in MS to challenge China ,INA and MAS too...

badMania
09-01-2007, 09:26 AM
Tantowi/Yulianti will slip into top 45 at least...good result and good news for INA XD...at least we have 4 solid back up plus Lingga Lie/Lita...
This Korean XD is solid too...wondering if they won in 2 or 3 sets..

The future definitely looks rosy. Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti (both should be still under 20 this year?) and Mohd Rijal/Greysia Polii (21 and 20 this year; and already a top 15 pair) should be INA's main XD pairs for the next few years, wiith Nova Widianto and Flandy Limpele's retirement after the Olympics.

They could then perhaps pair Lilyana Natsir (only 22 and already 2 WC golds) with Lingga Lie. As for Vita Marissa (will be 27 by next year's Olympics), she could perhaps concentrate in WD or she stays to play XD, maybe can be paired with Alvent Yulianto (28 this year, so perhaps both can last till the next Olympics?)

As for Devin Lahari/Lita Nurlita (both 24 this year), I don't think they can really be a top 4 pair...but maybe a good backup pair?

Krisna
09-01-2007, 10:50 AM
The future definitely looks rosy. Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti (both should be still under 20 this year?) and Mohd Rijal/Greysia Polii (21 and 20 this year; and already a top 15 pair) should be INA's main XD pairs for the next few years, wiith Nova Widianto and Flandy Limpele's retirement after the Olympics.

They could then perhaps pair Lilyana Natsir (only 22 and already 2 WC golds) with Lingga Lie. As for Vita Marissa (will be 27 by next year's Olympics), she could perhaps concentrate in WD or she stays to play XD, maybe can be paired with Alvent Yulianto (28 this year, so perhaps both can last till the next Olympics?)

As for Devin Lahari/Lita Nurlita (both 24 this year), I don't think they can really be a top 4 pair...but maybe a good backup pair?

Wow, your ideas make sense! You should be the Pelatnas mastermind... :) Seriously!

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:03 AM
I was watching the semifinal and final matches live. Today, in the finals, Tantowi-Yulianti played with nervousness in the 1st game, but managed to win it 21-17 or something. Then their errors started to accumulate and gave the Koreans more hope in the 2nd game. Tantowi especially gave the Korean pairs many 'bola tanggung' [easily smashed feeds]... :(

During the break, the Korean coach was pumped up! So enthusiastic after the 2nd game match-reviving victory. But on the other side of the court, INA's young pair got some serious emotional pep-talk by Coach [B]Yanti Kusmiati [Verawati's former doubles partner in the famous 1980s maxi-mini combo]...

INA's next XD hope jumped on the Koreans early in the 3rd game. So many variations of attacks just bewildered the Koreans and INA led 14-1! :eek: I saw many cross drops and chops by Tantowi were executed wonderfully... Ripping the Korean defense to shreds.

Their opponents were obviously shell-shocked. Especially the Korean lady... she became error prone while the Korean guy became nervous and frustrated. Tantowi suddenly became error-free and smashed and choped deceptively. Very dangerous player to face! I love INA XD style. So pretty. :) INA closed the match 21-10 or something like that. 3 titles for INA today! :D

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:12 AM
In the WD finals, the Japanese pair obviously too advantage of Shendy's nervousness and semi-injured foot [as written in Jawa Pos today]... They targeted her, knowing full well she is the younger and more clumsy out of the Djarum pair... Shendy did make a lot of mistakes and misestimation herself and lost the 1st game...

In the 2nd game, Mel-Shendy's composure returned and won the game... though played in a very competitive manner. Nobody really dominated the 2nd game. But it became apparent later on in the 2nd game that the Japanese weren't very mobile after they start to attack. So Mel and Shendy were successful many times with crosscourt counter-attacks... ;)

In the 3rd game, the INA pair became more bold and showcased their power! :eek: They are actually larger in stature compared to the Japanese... and naturally should have dominated the game with their power since the very beginning. Mel-Shendy ended the match after a very attractive rally full of powerful smashed by both Mel and the tall Shendy... :D First win for INA today!

badMania
09-01-2007, 11:15 AM
I was watching the semifinal and final matches live. Today, in the finals, Tantowi-Yulianti played with nervousness in the 1st game, but managed to win it 21-17 or something. Then their errors started to accumulate and gave the Koreans more hope in the 2nd game. Tantowi especially gave the Korean pairs many 'bola tanggung' [easily smashed feeds]... :(

During the break, the Korean coach was pumped up! So enthusiastic after the 2nd game match-reviving victory. But on the other side of the court, INA's young pair got some serious emotional pep-talk by Coach Yanti Kusmiati [Verawati's former doubles partner in the famous 1980s maxi-mini combo]...

INA's next XD hope jumped on the Koreans early in the 3rd game. So many variations of attacks just bewildered the Koreans and INA led 14-1! :eek: I saw many cross drops and chops by Tantowi were executed wonderfully... Ripping the Korean defense to shreds.

Their opponents were obviously shell-shocked. Especially the Korean lady... she became error prone while the Korean guy became nervous and frustrated. Tantowi suddenly became error-free and smashed and choped deceptively. Very dangerous player to face! I love INA XD style. So pretty. :) INA closed the match 21-10 or something like that. 3 titles for INA today! :D

Thanks for your description of the match. I have watched Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti several times and agree with you that Tantowi seems to be the weak link? He can be very good and then turned bad or vice-versa. That was why I think they lost to Tri Kusharyanto/Yunita Tetty in the Final of the Vietnam Challenge; after beating the same pair they beat today in the SF :cool:

This also seems to be the problem plaguing XD pairs in general, with the mens generally being the weak link, see Zheng Bo during the WC Final, Nathan Robertson in the match against Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa and Flandy himself in the semi-final; and not to mention...Nova Widianto on so many times.

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:17 AM
I think the Korean MS player's name is Hong Ji Hoon (ranked #172), and not Hoon Jin Hong as stated in this thread. I could be mistaken.

It's a bit confusing because there's also Han Ki Hoon (MS ranked #198) and Han Sang Hoon (MD player).

Hong Ji Hoon! The 2006 BS World Junior Champion. :D He is a very promising player with good footwork and an almost complete gameplay... [his net game is not the best laaahhh]

badMania
09-01-2007, 11:18 AM
Hmm...Yanti Kusmiati...is she the coach sitting beside Ko Aryono during the China Masters SS Final (Vita/Butet vs Yang/Zhao)? If she is, then she looks a bit "fat" to be a coach :cool:

badMania
09-01-2007, 11:22 AM
In the 3rd game, the INA pair became more bold and showcased their power! :eek: They are actually larger in stature compared to the Japanese... and naturally should have dominated the game with their power since the very beginning. Mel-Shendy ended the match after a very attractive rally full of powerful smashed by both Mel and the tall Shendy... :D First win for INA today!

I watched Shendy played a couple of times while she was still in Pelatnas, in the Cheers Singapore Satellite 2006. She is indeed very tall and big-sized, very imposing figure for a WD player :cool: Any chance she will return to Pelatnas (with Mel?) They seem to be better than other backup WD pairs like Nitya/Nadya (who could be split now) or Lita/Nathalia (probably split already with Lita pairing Nitya?)

badMania
09-01-2007, 11:24 AM
Wow, your ideas make sense! You should be the Pelatnas mastermind... :) Seriously!

Haha...if they pay me of course :p

samuel882
09-01-2007, 11:25 AM
Hong Ji Hoon will be great to see him rise....we need more stars in MS to challenge China ,INA and MAS too...

Yeah.. This young lads certainly have something special.. To win in INA home ground which featuring so many INA talented players... Gosh .. Dashed the hopes of INA in their favorite events :mad:

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:25 AM
Go Rian-Yoke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! *ha


Omigod!!!

Rian/Yoke won!!!!!! :eek: :eek: :eek:

Yay..!!! thanks Krisna & huangkwokhau! :D :D :D

Yup, Rian and Yoke won with confidence and flashy plays! :p I think Sigit and Yoke's flashy plays even rubbed off on Rian since they practice together nowadays... :p Rian's usual 'predictable' shot-selection were now combined with INA badminton's famous creativity... :eek:

Dazzling counter-attacks, between the legs, court-ripping smashes. I think Yoke also have improved his power... :eek: In the past, it was obvious that Rian was the power-player among the duo. Now, even Yoke can deliver dangerous thundering overheads... :eek: Fran and Rian's diligence in practicing powerplays have rubbed off on Yoke... ;)

Straight set wins today and yesterday... :cool:

badMania
09-01-2007, 11:29 AM
Straight set wins today and yesterday... :cool:

Indeed, a statement by Rian/Yoke perhaps? They were unlucky to draw KKK/TBH in the Phil Open 2007 QF. They also managed to take a set off the current WC silver-medallist Jung/Lee in the Thai Open 2007. I personally think that Rian/Yoke have more future than Hendra A.G./Joko Riyadi. Hopefully Djarum sends them to all the remaining GP Golds and some events in Europe this year :rolleyes:

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:32 AM
Hmm...Yanti Kusmiati...is she the coach sitting beside Ko Aryono during the China Masters SS Final (Vita/Butet vs Yang/Zhao)? If she is, then she looks a bit "fat" to be a coach :cool:

I suppose so... She is helping out in the XD department... Er, yes she is very "robust" now... :p And her 145-150cm did not help...

Any of you guys old enough to remember the famous Vera-Yanti "maxi-mini" combo?!? Vera was 175-180cm while Yanti was 145-150cm... :eek: But they played wonderfully! ;) They didn't win the big events, but the INA fans [like yours truly] were very entertained... :D

Both Vera and Yanti is in Surabaya tonight... Vera coached the Ragunan girl's team, Yanti coached the XD pairs... :)

badMania
09-01-2007, 11:38 AM
Any of you guys old enough to remember the famous Vera-Yanti "maxi-mini" combo?!? Vera was 175-180cm while Yanti was 145-150cm... :eek: But they played wonderfully! ;) They didn't win the big events, but the INA fans [like yours truly] were very entertained... :D

Both Vera and Yanti is in Surabaya tonight... Vera coached the Ragunan girl's team, Yanti coached the XD pairs... :)

I didn't remember of Vera/Yanti's partnership since I was too young at that time :cool: She's Chinese right? Indeed...very very short from what I recall watching the video of the WD Final and very big size. She looks like a HKG-actress...Zhu Mimi....with similar posture and face too.

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:40 AM
I fink INA juniors was still has their very own skills.. Too bad Andre Tedjono lost early... He is the player to watch...


Yeah.. This young lads certainly have something special.. To win in INA home ground which featuring so many INA talented players... Gosh .. Dashed the hopes of INA in their favorite events :mad:

Indeed! The Korean team manager stated that their best hope was to win the XD title. They placed no targets or high hopes in the MS. In the end, they lost the XD title to an inspired Tantowi-Yulianti... while securing the MS title with 2 youngsters in the final. :cool:

Both Korean MS who played in the finals were good... especially apparent was their notable footwork and endurance. Their finals match lasted around an hour tonight. Oh gosh, the INA crowd [including yours truly] was so bored because we had no more stake in that match, ha ha ha... :p

I honestly think the Koreans deserved this title. Andre, Tommy, Alamsyah, Ari Yuli, Budi Santoso, Indra Bagus, etc. gave some resistance, but not good enough! ....this week. ;) INA will be back! Maybe we should send our guys to Korea Challenge later this year, eh? :cool: Want to re-check our progress.... I think we are capable of putting two MS finalist in their hometown! :cool:

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:43 AM
I didn't remember of Vera/Yanti's partnership since I was too young at that time :cool: She's Chinese right? Indeed...very very short from what I recall watching the video of the WD Final and very big size. She looks like a HKG-actress...Zhu Mimi....with similar posture and face too.

Imagine pairing Shendy with Jo Novita... :p

Uh, I don't know who Zhu Mimi is... :confused:

Krisna
09-01-2007, 11:51 AM
also tommy as well...they all lost....:mad::mad::(:(


Tommy retired in the second set :cool:

Frankly, Tommy is beginning to show signs of his Icuk DNA... making excuses if things are tough! :o :( This is the 2nd or 3rd time Tommy suddendly 'retired' after a tough and difficult match to a less known player... :( :o

His father, Icuk, was notorious in the 1980s... the master of "a myriad of excuses"... my knees didn't feel good, I had the flu, hip problem, stomach problem, I ate something not clean, blabla...

No Indonesian player gave excuses. Not Rudy Hartono, not Tan Joe Hok, not Tjun-Tjun, not Liem Swie King, not Ardy, not Alan, not Susy, not Ivanna, not Lily Natsir, not Kido, not Luluk, not Nova, not Flandy ....as for Taufik... his single repeated excuse was that he wasn't motivated enough... no other forms of excuses... :p

badMania
09-01-2007, 12:00 PM
Frankly, Tommy is beginning to show signs of his Icuk DNA... making excuses if things are tough! :o :( This is the 2nd or 3rd time Tommy suddendly 'retired' after a tough and difficult match to a less known player... :( :o


It's time for him to show some good results.....the last time I watched him play was again during the Cheers Satellite 2006 (were u there? hehe :D) when he lost to a MAS Junior player, Chong Wei Feng. I was just so fed up with him...he was leading comfortably in the second set before a lapse in concentration caused him to lose that set and the match eventually.

samuel882
09-01-2007, 12:19 PM
Erm.. IMO.. Tommy may turns to be another INa version of HH :eek::rolleyes::D:D:p

samuel882
09-01-2007, 12:20 PM
Imagine pairing Shendy with Jo Novita... :p

Uh, I don't know who Zhu Mimi is... :confused:
Krisna/Badmania.. ZhuMimi is MAS origin who pursuing her acting career in HK ;)

Krisna
09-01-2007, 12:23 PM
Haha...if they pay me of course :p

Oh, sorry... As far as I know, PBSI got no $$$... :p

Go to BAM for $$$... :p

Krisna
09-01-2007, 12:25 PM
Krisna/Badmania.. ZhuMimi is MAS origin who pursuing her acting career in HK ;)

Next time, you can start a Yanti Kusmiati thread in the professional players forum. Then compare her photo with Zhu Mimi. I still have no idea who she is... :confused:

samuel882
09-01-2007, 12:27 PM
Next time, you can start a Yanti Kusmiati thread in the professional players forum. Then compare her photo with Zhu Mimi. I still have no idea who she is... :confused:

I am wondering how come a fat lady like ZhuMimi can be compared to a women's badminton players..:cool: her body ? Face? or Gesture ? ;)

badMania
09-01-2007, 12:33 PM
I am wondering how come a fat lady like ZhuMimi can be compared to a women's badminton players..:cool: her body ? Face? or Gesture ? ;)

Krisna mentioned already....Yanti Kusmiasti is of similar posture...and I think her face looks similar too....:cool:

badMania
09-01-2007, 12:35 PM
OT: Here's a link to Zhu Mimi's pic http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/people.asp?id=499

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 04:13 PM
I missed Maxi- Mini....remember that INA won Uber Cup by destroying South Korea...I forgot Korean WD now...they were so confused as Yanti was almost invincible behind the net and Vera got all " bola tanggung" and smashed them......

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 05:35 PM
I didn't remember of Vera/Yanti's partnership since I was too young at that time :cool: She's Chinese right? Indeed...very very short from what I recall watching the video of the WD Final and very big size. She looks like a HKG-actress...Zhu Mimi....with similar posture and face too.
Zhu Mimi is more beautiful than Yanti...:D:D dont get mad at me!! at least ZMM is younger...better than Fei Fei...

huangkwokhau
09-01-2007, 05:35 PM
Thought last time, Yanti was a coach in Brunei ...correct me if I am wrong!!!

Sandy
09-01-2007, 10:11 PM
Indonesia Challenge's results


MS
Hoon Jin Hong (KOR x11) v Lee Cheol Ho (KOR): 21-15, 11-21, 21-11.

SF
Indra Bagus (INA) vs Hong Jin Hoon (KOR) 16-21, 11-21
Alamsyah (INA) vs Lee Cheol Ho (KOR) 12-21, 21-10, 16-21


WS
Yi Ju Chiu (TPE) v Megumi Taruno (JPN): 21-18, 21-14.

SF
Sylvinna Kurniawan (INA) vs Megumi Taruno (JPN) 14-21, 12-21
Chiu Yu Ji (TPE) vs Wakita Yu (JPN) 21-8, 21-15


WD
Shendy Puspa Irawati/ Meiliana Jauhari (INA x1) v Yasuyo Imabeppu/Shizuka Matsuo (JPN): 15-21, 21-15, 21-17.

SF
Shendy Puspa/Meliana (INA) vs T.Pei Ling/Yang Chia (TPE) 21-13, 21-14
Cheng Wan H/Peng Hsiao (TPE) vs Imabeppu/Matsuo S (JPN) 4-21, 15-21


MD
Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki (INA x5) v Fran Kurniawan/Ade Lukas (INA): 21-18, 21-17.

SF
Hui Wai Ho/Alroy Tanama (HKG) vs Rian S/Yonathan (INA) 12-21, 20-22
Fran K/Ade Lukas (INA) vs Wifqy Windarto/Afiat Yuris (INA) 21-11, 21-17


XD
Ahmad Tantowi/Yulianti (INA x1) v Yeon Seong Yoo/Ming Jung Kim (KOR): 21-16, 15-21, 21-19.

SF
Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti (INA) vs Fran K/Shendy Puspa (INA) 21-16, 21-16
Yonathan/Meliana (INA) vs Yoo Yeon S/Kim Ming Jung (KOR) 19-21, 11-21



U-19

BS
Adi Pratama (Jaya Raya) v Aditya Arifin (Jaya Raya): 21-4, 21-14.
GS
Maziyah Nadir (Elektrik Bandung) v Cisita Jansen (Djarum): 13-21, 21-15, 21-17. who is Maziyah Nadir ?
BD
Erwin/Rizky DN (Jaya Raya) v M. Nur Rofii/Zulfikar: 21-18, 21-15.
GD
Krissabella/Renni Rossi (Djarum) v Rizky Amalia/Ravika Olivia (Jaya Raya): 22-20, 21-16.
XD
Rizky DN/Jessica (Jaya Raya) v M. Bayu/Megawati (Surya Naga): 21-17, 21-14


U-16

BS
M. Andrean (Citra Raya Unesa) v Jendri Mikhail (Cicli Guata Sulawesi): 21-16, 22-20.
GS
Ayu Pratiwi (Ragunan) v Ganis (Golden Star Solo): 21-4, 16-21, 23-21.
BD
Ivandi/Riki (Mutiara Bandung) v Ali Akbar/Dandi (Mutiara Bandung): 17-21, 25-23, 21-14.
GD
Suci Riski/Tiara Rosalia (Mutiara Bandung) v Ayu Pratiwi/Gebby (Ragunan): 21-19, 10-2 (retired).


U-14

BS
Agi Hermawan (Suryabaja Surabaya) v Lucky Apri (PMS Solo) 21-19, 18-21, 29-27
GS
Agitania (Mutiara Bandung) v Hana (Fortuna Tasikmalaya) 26-24, 21-18

badMania
09-02-2007, 12:29 AM
XD
Ahmad Tantowi/Yulianti (INA x1) v Yeon Seong Yoo/Ming Jung Kim (KOR): 21-16, 15-21, 21-19.

U-14
BS
Agi Hermawan (Suryabaja Surabaya) v Lucky Apri (PMS Solo) 21-19, 18-21, 29-27
GS


Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti's match certainly was the closest of all the Finals. Meanwhile, this U-14 match nearly lasted the distance...29-27 in the rubber set :eek: It will be wonderful to see it end at 30-29 :cool:

george@chongwei
09-02-2007, 12:36 AM
eer,how u all know the result all??:confused::o

u guys got watch the match or from any website:D:D??

badMania
09-02-2007, 12:37 AM
eer,how u all know the result all??:confused::o

u guys got watch the match or from any website:D:D??

The results can be found in today's Jawa Pos.

Krisna
09-02-2007, 01:04 AM
OT: Here's a link to Zhu Mimi's pic http://www.hkcinemagic.com/en/people.asp?id=499

I see your point, guys. Yes, Yanti Kusmiati today looks very much like this picture of Zhu Mimi in the website... :D


I missed Maxi- Mini....remember that INA won Uber Cup by destroying South Korea...I forgot Korean WD now...they were so confused as Yanti was almost invincible behind the net and Vera got all " bola tanggung" and smashed them......

Yanti was invincible because she was invisible... ;) She's shorter than the net yet very fast and agile when covering half the court. While Verawati is 175cm-180cm with a robust body... :eek: yet very powerful... So of course the opponents were confused.

This Maxi-Mini combo is and example of why INA people love INA badminton... :p INA has 17,000 islands, at least 250 tribes etc. So the kinds of badminton talent that can be produced by our archipelago are so various! All were given the chance to honor the INA name... :)

And differences in shot-making techniques that arises are also wonderous and flexible. A 145cm player like Yanti cannot play the same way as the 180cm Verawaty. We like to think INA as the "Brazil" of Badminton... ;) Best producers of artful badminton.

Krisna
09-02-2007, 01:21 AM
Meanwhile, this U-14 match nearly lasted the distance...29-27 in the rubber set :eek: It will be wonderful to see it end at 30-29 :cool:

I saw that match. It was awesome and electrifying! Both competitors gave their all! The fell down many times to reach the shuttles... The crowd was cheering wildly! :D

Krisna
09-02-2007, 01:27 AM
Indonesia Challenge's results
U-16

BS
M. Andrean (Citra Raya Unesa) v Jendri Mikhail (Cicli Guata Sulawesi): 21-16, 22-20.
GS
Ayu Pratiwi (Ragunan) v Ganis (Golden Star Solo): 21-4, 16-21, 23-21.
BD
Ivandi/Riki (Mutiara Bandung) v Ali Akbar/Dandi (Mutiara Bandung): 17-21, 25-23, 21-14.
GD
Suci Riski/Tiara Rosalia (Mutiara Bandung) v Ayu Pratiwi/Gebby (Ragunan): 21-19, 10-2 (retired).


Ayu Pratiwi fought Ganis to the death to win that GS U-16... That was one very draining GS finals match. Lots of long rallies filled with movements all over the court. Within one hour, Ayu had do play against Suci-Tiara in the GS U-16, she could not lift her arm anymore. So Ayu retired before she really got injured...

Sandy
09-02-2007, 01:31 AM
Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti's match certainly was the closest of all the Finals. Meanwhile, this U-14 match nearly lasted the distance...29-27 in the rubber set :eek: It will be wonderful to see it end at 30-29 :cool:

It should be Tantowi/Yulianti won 21-9 in 3rd set, I just copied it from Jawapos, typical Indonesia newspaper.

Krisna
09-02-2007, 01:32 AM
Indonesia Challenge's results

WD
Shendy Puspa Irawati/ Meiliana Jauhari (INA x1) v Yasuyo Imabeppu/Shizuka Matsuo (JPN): 15-21, 21-15, 21-17.

XD
Ahmad Tantowi/Yulianti (INA x1) v Yeon Seong Yoo/Ming Jung Kim (KOR): 21-16, 15-21, 21-19.


They got the Tantowi-Yulianti score wrong. :o The last game was not 21-19... it was 21-9 or 21-10 or something lop-sided like that. Tantowi just took over the match in the last game. No more errors, just brilliant execution. :) It was not close...

Krisna
09-02-2007, 01:33 AM
It should be Tantowi/Yulianti won 21-9 in 3rd set, I just copied it from Jawapos, typical Indonesia newspaper.

We wrote the score correction post around the same time... :p

Sandy
09-02-2007, 01:40 AM
A lot of players from small clubs in Solo showed good results in U-14, U-16 category. Solo and arround allways supplied their players to big clubs in Jakarta, Surabaya or Djarum.

Krisna
09-02-2007, 02:08 AM
A lot of players from small clubs in Solo showed good results in U-14, U-16 category. Solo and arround allways supplied their players to big clubs in Jakarta, Surabaya or Djarum.

There were some massive clampdown on 'age-cheating' lately... :p Naturally, the top players of Under-19 [usually from big clubs] and Under-16 [usually from big clubs] got checked more... and true enough, many of them cheated... so they were rightfully penalized. Either by 6 month ban or just directly playing in their 'correct' age group.

So... Someone who is 15 but usually plays against 13 year olds ...suddenly have to play against real 15 years old ....or 17 years old competitors [ahem, ahem, the 17 year olds cheated to be categorized as 15 year olds, but PBSI have not gotten to them yet because they are from small clubs and not a priority for the forensic tests...]

samuel882
09-02-2007, 02:15 AM
I can't understand why there is so many juniors players in INA needs to cheat about their ages ?? Its not they will become millionaire by such cheating rite?
In MAS badminton players never ever need to do so..!

Krisna
09-02-2007, 02:21 AM
Indonesia Challenge's results
U-19

BS
Adi Pratama (Jaya Raya) v Aditya Arifin (Jaya Raya): 21-4, 21-14.
GS
Maziyah Nadir (Elektrik Bandung) v Cisita Jansen (Djarum): 13-21, 21-15, 21-17. who is Maziyah Nadir ?
BD
Erwin/Rizky DN (Jaya Raya) v M. Nur Rofii/Zulfikar: 21-18, 21-15.
GD
Krissabella/Renni Rossi (Djarum) v Rizky Amalia/Ravika Olivia (Jaya Raya): 22-20, 21-16.
XD
Rizky DN/Jessica (Jaya Raya) v M. Bayu/Megawati (Surya Naga): 21-17, 21-14


In the GS Under-19, Cisita won over Jenna in the semifinals at 1-0 in the 1st game. Jenna got injured in the knee... She jumped but then fell in the wrong place... That's it... match over... :p

Maziyah Nadir from SGS Elektrik was a long-time competitor of Cisita since they were Under-16. Now both are 16 [going to 17]... Around two years ago, Cisita moved Maziyah all over the court so much that she passed out after the game. No kidding. Really passed out due to fatique. But yesterday, Maziyah got her revenge... ;)

Cisita is sort of famous in Indonesia because she won SMASH, the reality TV show about young badminton athletes... :p She won when she was with Astec Kharisma club [a club owned by Susi Susanti's family]...

http://www.pbdjarum.com/upload/pic2af4218689c.jpg
Here are the siblings Jones Jansen and Cisita Jansen

Krisna
09-02-2007, 02:39 AM
I can't understand why there is so many juniors players in INA needs to cheat about their ages ?? Its not they will become millionaire by such cheating rite?
In MAS badminton players never ever need to do so..!

Mmm, actually they do become millionaires... :o

Oh this is easy to answer: because the stupid PBSI policy until 2005 only recruit the National Team members from the Under-19 category. If everyone else cheat and you don't, you'll get a disadvantage.

Imagine you're an 18 year old, you compete with 20 or 21 year olds [who claim they are 18] during the tryout to get into the National Team. Your chances are slimmer eh? Then when you become officially 19, you have almost no chance to go to the National Team [thus becoming a Millionaire]...

Even if you're a very talented person, how can you achieve much when you're disadvantaged by 2 or 3 years... Especially among the male players! In general, the strength of a 21 year old male is way way more than his 17 year old counterpart... For females, a bit different... A 16 or 17 year old female can match the powers of their older counterpart. That's why you see many teenagers excelling in women's tennis. Very rare in male. Maybe only Boris Becker.

From what I understand, Taufik, Markis Kido, Pia etc. all cheated. 2 years at least. So now you know why Taufik already started to talk about retirement eh? He's not 27, he is 29 today... Kido openly said, "Yes, I cheated! But if I had not cheated, I could not get into the National Team because almost everybody else did. I cheated just to survive in an unjust system!" As for Pia, that's why she is not competing as a Junior anymore lately... :p

Also, the INA birth certificate creation process is prone to bribes and incorrect data management. You can bribe the local guy to create a birth certificate where you're actually 1 or 2 or 3, maybe even 5 years younger than you really are... :p

MAS has a much better birth certificate creation system. Created by the Brits. And maybe there are no stupid policies by BAM like what PBSI has [in this manner]... :p

samuel882
09-02-2007, 02:55 AM
Thanks for your details clarification..
But BAM should feel ashame coz they even can't compete with PBSI who is having so much problem in administration but yet they still produce many World / Olympics champions !

Krisna
09-02-2007, 03:14 AM
Thanks for your details clarification..
But BAM should feel ashame coz they even can't compete with PBSI who is having so much problem in administration but yet they still produce many World / Olympics champions !

There is nothing BAM can envy or even copy from PBSI... INA is just plain and simply blessed by Heaven for so many years... With all our terrible management, we still can find good badminton players...

Oh by the way INA's population is 240 million, which is 12 times MAS' population, if I am not mistaken... And INA people lovvveesss badminton... So we can find natural talents here and there. :p Heaven is on our side in this matter...

samuel882
09-02-2007, 03:23 AM
If populations is the keys.. why we can't see great badminton players from INDIA/ USA/ RUSSIA shining ?

Krisna
09-02-2007, 03:32 AM
There is nothing BAM can envy or even copy from PBSI... INA is just plain and simply blessed by Heaven for so many years... With all our terrible management, we still can find good badminton players...

Oh by the way INA's population is 240 million, which is 12 times MAS' population, if I am not mistaken... And INA people lovvveesss badminton... So we can find natural talents here and there. :p Heaven is on our side in this matter...


If populations is the keys.. why we can't see great badminton players from INDIA/ USA/ RUSSIA shining ?

Didn't you read that part [I colored it red so you can clearly see this time] of my statement? Is that condition colored red a reality in India, USA, and Russia?!? ;) If it is, then I bet you that we will see great badminton players from those 3 countries! :)

ctjcad
09-02-2007, 09:08 AM
Mmm, actually they do become millionaires... :o

Oh this is easy to answer: because the stupid PBSI policy until 2005 only recruit the National Team members from the Under-19 category. If everyone else cheat and you don't, you'll get a disadvantage.

Imagine you're an 18 year old, you compete with 20 or 21 year olds [who claim they are 18] during the tryout to get into the National Team. Your chances are slimmer eh? Then when you become officially 19, you have almost no chance to go to the National Team [thus becoming a Millionaire]...

Even if you're a very talented person, how can you achieve much when you're disadvantaged by 2 or 3 years... Especially among the male players! In general, the strength of a 21 year old male is way way more than his 17 year old counterpart... For females, a bit different... A 16 or 17 year old female can match the powers of their older counterpart. That's why you see many teenagers excelling in women's tennis. Very rare in male. Maybe only Boris Becker.

From what I understand, Taufik, Markis Kido, Pia etc. all cheated. 2 years at least. So now you know why Taufik already started to talk about retirement eh? He's not 27, he is 29 today... Kido openly said, "Yes, I cheated! But if I had not cheated, I could not get into the National Team because almost everybody else did. I cheated just to survive in an unjust system!" As for Pia, that's why she is not competing as a Junior anymore lately... :p

Also, the INA birth certificate creation process is prone to bribes and incorrect data management. You can bribe the local guy to create a birth certificate where you're actually 1 or 2 or 3, maybe even 5 years younger than you really are... :p

MAS has a much better birth certificate creation system. Created by the Brits. And maybe there are no stupid policies by BAM like what PBSI has [in this manner]... :p
:p..that's what one develops over time, esp. when staying/living/growing up in a country like Indonesia-it's the reality, widespread corruption and i doubt it will go away from the system..:rolleyes::mad::o:(:p
Btw, is Taufik (and those players you mentioned) really 2 yrs older than his(their) real age??..:p:confused:..

Thanks for your details clarification..
But BAM should feel ashame coz they even can't compete with PBSI who is having so much problem in administration but yet they still produce many World / Olympics champions !

There is nothing BAM can envy or even copy from PBSI...
..no need to feel ashame of BAM not being able to compete with PBSI, samuel882..Esp. not going the PBSI "route". I'm not saying there is/are no "cheatings" going on in BAM or other countries badminton bodies not named Indonesia/PBSI, but as long as they are being honest/hold their integrity, IMO, that's much much better than the opposite..;):cool:

Krisna
09-02-2007, 12:12 PM
Btw, is Taufik (and those players you mentioned) really 2 yrs older than his(their) real age??..:p:confused:..


Regarding Taufik, Markis Kido, and Pia Zebaidah, yes I am sure those are the facts. :) Though, I admit, I never did any investigation myself. :p But that's the common concensus among PBSI officials and club community that I know.

People don't make a fuss over Taufik and Kido at all nowadays because they are all playing in the adult division. But as for Pia, who is supposedly 18, but actually 20 or something, then there were a lot of pressure on PBSI not to send her to any Junior tournaments. So PBSI did not send Pia to Asian Junior and Milo Junior etc. One more test: World Junior Championship... I think PBSI under Lius Pongoh will stick to their guns and not send Pia there...

Just for everyone's info: for the ones who are of Chinese descent like Susi Susanti etc, then age-cheating becomes harder. Because the data required for Chinese Indonesians are more strict... [SKBRI, etc. blabla]... Racism applies in age-cheating.

Have you ever wondered why there are less and less people of Chinese descent in the INA National team?!? Partially, it is because during the critical Under-19 years [that's when Pelatnas base their recruiting]... the 18 year old Chinese Indonesians [[U]most of whom cannot cheat their age] have to compete with other INA players who are 20 or 21... er... difficult... not impossible, but more difficult...

samuel882
09-02-2007, 06:21 PM
Can't really imagine hows did a country being dominated by their Professional Clubs for badminton. Pelatnas, Djarum, Electrik Bandung.. etc... They both provide the core of INA national team.
How if INA badminton will to survive w/o the likes of all those PRO clubs? Will it be same level as MAS, who also share the interest among their citizens for the love of Badminton.

huangkwokhau
09-02-2007, 07:20 PM
Thats very sad indeed....at least thehre is a team in place who really look into these cases....What Krisna said is true that most of time is either the parents or coaches get involved as once you are developed into fine players and play for National team....certainly it will bring the fortune itself...remember that badminton is one way of getting out from poverty.....

In kompas.com today ( september 2),,they talked about it and apparently there were 16 players who cheated They mentioned 5 players' names from 3 different clubs also)....not only in Badminton, also in Indonesian Tennis as well....

samuel882
09-02-2007, 07:39 PM
I wonder if INa government ever set-ups the (ICAC) Independent Commission Against Corruption (as in HK) to beat all the corruption for sports..

huangkwokhau
09-02-2007, 07:48 PM
I wonder if INa government ever set-ups the (ICAC) Independent Commission Against Corruption (as in HK) to beat all the corruption for sports..
Hm...not sure...I am sure that we have a forensic team to find out who is cheating the age in badminton....for corruption, it will be very tough as it has been grassroot...HKG is easier as they have system in place plus the population is about 7 millions so it is easy to manage like Singapore...like Indonesia with 240 million, it poses a challenge especially with different tribes, etc and lack of education and poverty, all play as factors why it will be more difficult to do..

Sandy
09-02-2007, 08:57 PM
Regarding Taufik, Markis Kido, and Pia Zebaidah, yes I am sure those are the facts. :) Though, I admit, I never did any investigation myself. :p But that's the common concensus among PBSI officials and club community that I know.

People don't make a fuss over Taufik and Kido at all nowadays because they are all playing in the adult division. But as for Pia, who is supposedly 18, but actually 20 or something, then there were a lot of pressure on PBSI not to send her to any Junior tournaments. So PBSI did not send Pia to Asian Junior and Milo Junior etc. One more test: World Junior Championship... I think PBSI under Lius Pongoh will stick to their guns and not send Pia there...

Just for everyone's info: for the ones who are of Chinese descent like Susi Susanti etc, then age-cheating becomes harder. Because the data required for Chinese Indonesians are more strict... [SKBRI, etc. blabla]... Racism applies in age-cheating.

Have you ever wondered why there are less and less people of Chinese descent in the INA National team?!? Partially, it is because during the critical Under-19 years [that's when Pelatnas base their recruiting]... the 18 year old Chinese Indonesians [[U]most of whom cannot cheat their age] have to compete with other INA players who are 20 or 21... er... difficult... not impossible, but more difficult...

PBSI held "forensic test" for junior players who played in junior international event only. They should hold it in National event too. Maybe the age was held U-16, easier than U-19.

I saw some players since they played in U-16. I'm surprised knew that Taufik did it too. I believe he was still U-16, he looked very young and competed in U-19 against Rony Agustinus at the time.

I watched Pia, Sylvinna, Belaetrix, Nathalia Suryanti, Rosaria, Wiwis, etc in Jakarta Open 2003. Pia looked bigger and older than Sylvinna who seen like a kid, now she looked smaller.
Sylvinna & Nathalia were coached by Ellen Angelina at the time. I watched Nathalia Suryanti (Chinese descent) against someone, actually she looked very young and the opponent looked older and act too mature for girl in this age like intimidate the opponent or challenge the umpire.
In this time Nathalia Suryanti got punishment from PBSI and surprisely the opponent who I said much older still play in U-19 because she never called in National team :confused:

taufik-ist
09-02-2007, 10:02 PM
i cheated age to get my Driving license :)

huangkwokhau
09-02-2007, 10:05 PM
i cheated my age to get Driving license :)
No wonder there is so many traffic jams in Bandung .....:D:D:D

Krisna
09-03-2007, 09:45 AM
34936

The Champ! Meliana [the shorter girl on the right] actually repeated last year's feat when this tournament was still called Surabaya Satellite... :D Last year her partner was Purwati.

ctjcad
09-03-2007, 09:49 AM
Have you ever wondered why there are less and less people of Chinese descent in the INA National team?!? Partially, it is because during the critical Under-19 years [that's when Pelatnas base their recruiting]... the 18 year old Chinese Indonesians [most of whom cannot cheat their age] have to compete with other INA players who are 20 or 21... er... difficult... not impossible, but more difficult...
.."age cheating" can only go so far, for a player..IF a player wants to "cheat" on their age, sure, they can get away with it...But over time, his/her true skills/talents will be exposed/reveal if that player is really legit or not...If the player is good, no matter what age s/he is, then she's good. No need to "age cheat":p.....So....I'm thinking now, what is the use of "age cheating" by a player if s/he is, in fact, really not good???...
I know it's difficult and sometimes it's easier said than done, but if to choose, i'd rather tell/ask my players to tell the truth...;):cool:
I just wonder, if BWF really pays attention to this kind of issue, esp. for the World Junior Championships event?!?!..:confused:

Krisna
09-03-2007, 10:24 AM
.."age cheating" can only go so far, for a player..IF a player wants to "cheat" on their age, sure, they can get away with it...But over time, his/her true skills/talents will be exposed/reveal if that player is really legit or not...If the player is good, no matter what age s/he is, then she's good. No need to "age cheat":p.....So....I'm thinking now, what is the use of "age cheating" by a player if s/he is, in fact, really not good???...
I know it's difficult and sometimes it's easier said than done, but if to choose, i'd rather tell/ask my players to tell the truth...;):cool:
I just wonder, if BWF really pays attention to this kind of issue, esp. for the World Junior Championships event?!?!..:confused:

Unfortunately, for many years [don't know when it started] until 2005, PBSI wrongly only accepted the under-1 to the National Team... :( So if you don't appear to perform brightly by the time you are 18, you won't have a shot to go to the National Team... most likely forever.

And if you're true age is 18 while your other competitors in the Under-19 category are actually 20-21 year old... your chances of performing brightly is... bad... :(

Yeah, well the main problem is that before this year, PBSI won't even spend the fund to do forensic tests... :( They got other priorities. While in my opinion this is a very BIG important activity to keep everyone [more] honest.

Krisna
09-03-2007, 10:25 AM
The last Pelatnas player I remember who entered the National Team later in his career was Joko Suprianto. Maybe he was 22 or something in 1995...

Oldhand
09-03-2007, 10:31 AM
And INA people lovvveesss badminton...
So we can find natural talents here and there. :p
Heaven is on our side in this matter...

Indonesia loves badminton.
But China rules badminton :D

ctjcad
09-03-2007, 10:32 AM
Yeah, well the main problem is that before this year, PBSI won't even spend the fund to do forensic tests... :( They got other priorities. While in my opinion this is a very BIG important activity to keep everyone [more] honest.
...we need you, Krisna, to be the next PBSI Chairman:p:D;)...To lay down the rules and laws of what is right and wrong:p;):cool:...

taufik-ist
09-03-2007, 10:39 AM
34936

The Champ! Meliana [the shorter girl on the right] actually repeated last year's feat when this tournament was still called Surabaya Satellite... :D Last year her partner was Purwati.

once again, ina tomboys were proven to be a good double player :D :p

Krisna
09-03-2007, 10:43 AM
Indonesia loves badminton.
But China rules badminton :D

Yes China rules badminton today... ;)

huangkwokhau
09-03-2007, 10:51 AM
once again, ina tomboys were proven to be a good double player :D :p
Remember what i said??:D:D only tomboys can rule WD in future against China WD...

Krisna
09-03-2007, 10:52 AM
...we need you, Krisna, to be the next PBSI Chairman:p:D;)...To lay down the rules and laws of what is right and wrong:p;):cool:...

Thank you for your support ctjcad... in 2027, I will run for the PBSI Chairman job! :p ;) :cool: In the meantime, we are maintaining discipline within our own circle. We are not doing a great job at doing that yet... :o :o :o

As the old-saying goes:
Manage yourself well first, then... manage your family well, then... manage your club/community well, then.... manage your city/region well, then... manage your country well, then... [maybe if you still have time] ...help manage the world... ;)

Krisna
09-03-2007, 10:53 AM
Remember what i said??:D:D only tomboys can rule WD in future against China WD...

Yup! No other country can do it except INA [using our tomboys!]... Go INA tomboys! ;)

Japan has Reiko-Kumiko... that's nice... but they are not INA tomboys! They can't beat China WD like Vita-Lily etc.!

huangkwokhau
09-03-2007, 11:01 AM
Thank you for your support ctjcad... in 2027, I will run for the PBSI Chairman job! :p ;) :cool: In the meantime, we are maintaining discipline within our own circle. We are not doing a great job at doing that yet... :o :o :o

As the old-saying goes:
Manage yourself well first, then... manage your family well, then... manage your club/community well, then.... manage your city/region well, then... manage your country well, then... [maybe if you still have time] ...help manage the world... ;)
Hm....that will take a long time....Come on..Krisna...have you heard about short cut??:D:D or how about the way around???:D:D

taufik-ist
09-03-2007, 11:17 AM
Yup! No other country can do it except INA [using our tomboys!]... Go INA tomboys! ;)

Japan has Reiko-Kumiko... that's nice... but they are not INA tomboys! They can't beat China WD like Vita-Lily etc.!

i hope there won't be an estrogen test for our tomboys :)

i recall there is a woman athelete of india (tomboy) who is forbiden to compete in woman section becos her estrogen hormon has a bigger amount than her prostegeron hormon

Krisna
09-03-2007, 11:18 AM
Hm....that will take a long time....Come on..Krisna...have you heard about short cut??:D:D or how about the way around???:D:D

Sorry, no shortcuts... :o INA people need proof that there are genuine positive powers that are seriously working towards a brighter INA badminton future...

We have to prove that we can manage our club/community well first, then comes our county, then our province, then the country. Our foundations have to solid and robust. Only then can the others follow suit and move together towards a better INA badminton. Without genuine proof that there are better ways to do things, the other county, regions, provinces won't follow our lead.

I think it is the same for the players who won the Indonesia Challenge... Tantowi-Yulianti won an International Series event first [Thailand Series], then an International Challenge event [Indonesia Challenge], then later on maybe they will win a GP event next... ;)

Meliana-Shendy won an International Series event [Bahrain Series], then follow it up with a victory at an International Challenge level [Indonesia Challenge], they can now move on to trying to win GP events... :)

These up and coming youngsters are not like Lily Natsir and Vita Marissa who has such a rich track-record and experience in winning. They have to move up the ladder step-by-step...

Krisna
09-03-2007, 11:20 AM
i hope there won't be a estrogen test for our tomboys :)

i recall there is a woman athelete of india (tomboy) who is forbiden to compete in woman section becos her estrogen hormon has a bigger amount than her prostegeron hormon

Oh, I think I heard of this. Wasn't she a man? In the end, they proved that she was a man, right? Complete with whatever anatomy a man usually has... :eek: Now that is worse than INA age-cheating... GENDER-CHEATING is just... WRONG! :eek:

Sandy
09-03-2007, 11:26 AM
The last Pelatnas player I remember who entered the National Team later in his career was Joko Suprianto. Maybe he was 22 or something in 1995...

Joko Suprianto was 30 in 1995

ctjcad
09-03-2007, 11:27 AM
Sorry, no shortcuts... :o INA people need proof that there are genuine positive powers that are seriously working towards a brighter INA badminton future...

We have to prove that we can manage our club/community well first, then comes our county, then our province, then the country. Our foundations have to solid and robust. Only then can the others follow suit and move together towards a better INA badminton. Without genuine proof that there are better ways to do things, the other county, regions, provinces won't follow our lead.
..what do you mean by having "genuine positive powers towards a brighter INA badminton future"??..:confused:
..and how do you explain the present position of Bang Yos in PBSI?!?!...What kind of "genuine positive powers" is he providing??..He is a governor of Jakarta, well, technically no longer, but does he have any experience or background in sports, esp. badminton???..Does he even play that sport regularly?!?!..:p:confused:
(hmm, this current discussion has turned pretty much off topic from the original title thread. Don't know if kwun or other mods want to move this discussion into the "Indo Badminton" thread or not?!?!:confused:)

taufik-ist
09-03-2007, 11:27 AM
Oh, I think I heard of this. Wasn't she a man? In the end, they proved that she was a man, right? Complete with whatever anatomy a man usually has... :eek: Now that is worse than INA age-cheating... GENDER-CHEATING is just... WRONG! :eek:

her name is santy.. she's a real woman..

http://in.sports.yahoo.com/061218/43/6adj1.html