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chemile
08-21-2007, 12:48 AM
Malaysia dominated seeding in MS. China not send their best player, Lin Dan, probably they send many youngsters beside Bao Chunlai and Chen Yu. Please find the complete seeded as follows:
MS:
1. Lee Chong Wei - MAS
2. Bao Chunlai - CHI
3. Chen Yu - CHI
4. Taufik Hidayat - INA Please do not lose with unknown player anymore :(
5. Wong Choon HAn - MAS Old crack! I think he will face TH in QF.
6. Hashim Muh. Hafiz - MAS
7. Park Sun Hwan - KOR
8. Yeo Kay BIn - MAS
WS:
1. Zhu Lin - CHI Yes, WC champion come!
2. Lu Lan -CHI
3. Yip Pui Yin - HKG Hope have great battle with WC champion...
4. Julianne Schenk - GER
MD:
1.Tony GUnawan/Chandra Wijaya - INA
2. Lee Jae Jin/Hwan Ji Man - KOR
3. Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae - KOR
4. Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Tien How - MAS
Wow... we will see gr8 battle old crack vs youngsters!
WD:
1.Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen - CHI Good decision from LYB to re-unite this pair
2. Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia - SIN
3. Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui - MAS
4. Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jun - KOR
XD:
1. He Hanbin/Yu Yang - CHI
2. Hendri Saputra/Li Yujia - SIN
3. Hendra Wijaya/Jiang Yanmei - SIN
4. Hsieh Yu Hsin/Chien Yu Chin - TPE
Well, I think Indonesia also not send many top players unless TH, because TH must compile many points for OG. BUt, participants in this tournament also still good, and I believe will be thight and have good match, especially in QF or SF.
Krisna/Sandy, Do you know who are sent by PBSI to this tournament beside TH?
thiery
08-21-2007, 02:14 AM
it seems tazari/zakry had pulled out from the India Open.....most likely due to the poor performance from WC. perhaps they receive 'perintah berkurung' from Rexy...haha.....serve them right.
huangkwokhau
08-21-2007, 03:14 AM
Malaysia dominated seeding in MS. China not send their best player, Lin Dan, probably they send many youngsters beside Bao Chunlai and Chen Yu. Please find the complete seeded as follows:
MS:
1. Lee Chong Wei - MAS
2. Bao Chunlai - CHI
3. Chen Yu - CHI
4. Taufik Hidayat - INA Please do not lose with unknown player anymore :(
5. Wong Choon HAn - MAS Old crack! I think he will face TH in QF.
6. Hashim Muh. Hafiz - MAS
7. Park Sun Hwan - KOR
8. Yeo Kay BIn - MAS
WS:
1. Zhu Lin - CHI Yes, WC champion come!
2. Lu Lan -CHI
3. Yip Pui Yin - HKG Hope have great battle with WC champion...
4. Julianne Schenk - GER
MD:
1.Tony GUnawan/Chandra Wijaya - INA
2. Lee Jae Jin/Hwan Ji Man - KOR
3. Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae - KOR
4. Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Tien How - MAS
Wow... we will see gr8 battle old crack vs youngsters!
WD:
1.Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen - CHI Good decision from LYB to re-unite this pair
2. Jiang Yanmei/Li Yujia - SIN
3. Wong Pei Tty/Chin Eei Hui - MAS
4. Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jun - KOR
XD:
1. He Hanbin/Yu Yang - CHI
2. Hendri Saputra/Li Yujia - SIN
3. Hendra Wijaya/Jiang Yanmei - SIN
4. Hsieh Yu Hsin/Chien Yu Chin - TPE
Well, I think Indonesia also not send many top players unless TH, because TH must compile many points for OG. BUt, participants in this tournament also still good, and I believe will be thight and have good match, especially in QF or SF.
Krisna/Sandy, Do you know who are sent by PBSI to this tournament beside TH?
Pls click on M/Q report..INA d Jarum send many players..including Pia, Maria febe, mariA elfira,fransisca,aprilia, yuan, alamsyah, tommy, andre, ari yuli, many WD and XD....greysia/Jo, etc
chemile
08-21-2007, 05:13 AM
Thank you huangkwokhau. But I think Jo/Greysia will pull out due to Greysia's injury.
badMania
08-21-2007, 05:38 AM
Hmm...only 41 players for MS, 30 players for WS, 23 pairs for MD, 18 pairs for WD, 21 pairs for XD; this must be the least attended GP Gold event :cool:
Nevertheless, a very good opportunity for the second-team to rake in important points to progress up the table (since most likely they won't be competing in the Olympics anyway).
Ex-Pelatnas:
Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya :D
Pelatnas players:
Taufik Hidayat :eek:
Alamsyah Yunus
Tommy Sugiarto
Pia Bernadet Zebadiah
Fransisca Ratnasari
Yuan Kartika Putri (she's still in Pelatnas??)
Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan (YES!!)
Fernando Kurniawan/Subakti
Devin Lahardi/Lingga Lie
Ahmad Tantowi/Viki Indra Okvana
Jo Novita/Greysia Polii (doubtful, due to Greysia's untimely injury)
Yulianti/Dili Puspita Richi (YES!!)
Nitya Krishinda/Lita Nurlita
Devin Lahardi/Lita Nurlita (YES!!)
Ahmad Tantowi/Yulianti (YES!!)
Lingga Lie/Nitya Krishinda
Viki Indra Okvana/Dili Puspita Richi
Djarum players:
Andre Kurniawan Tedjono
Ari Yuli Wahyu Hartanto
Wisnu Haryo Putro
Maria Febe Kusumastuti
Maria Elfira Christina
Rian Sukmawan/Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki
Meiliana Jauhari/Shendy Puspa Irawati
Yonathan Suryatama Dasuki/Meiliana Jauhari
It's quite unlikely that any of the Pelatnas players will even be in contention for the medals. I will be more than happy if Bona/Ahsan, Yulianti/Dili, Tantowi/Yulianti and Devin/Lita can enter the QF,
chemile
08-21-2007, 05:49 AM
I don't see good opportunity for Indonesia youngsters in this tournament, especially in WS. Pia must face Zhou Mi in the 2nd round after bye. Tommy Sugiarto many times get bad draws. After bye, he must face Taufik Hidayat.. How come is it happened?
badMania
08-21-2007, 05:50 AM
I don't see good opportunity for Indonesia youngsters in this tournament, especially in WS. Pia must face Zhou Mi in the 2nd round after bye. Tommy Sugiarto many times get bad draws. After bye, he must face Taufik Hidayat.. How come is it happened?
Well, I am hoping that he beat an off-form Taufik :D
badMania
08-21-2007, 05:52 AM
it seems tazari/zakry had pulled out from the India Open.....most likely due to the poor performance from WC. perhaps they receive 'perintah berkurung' from Rexy...haha.....serve them right.
Thats even better :D As it means that Tony/Candra will probably only have Jung/Lee as the main threat for the gold medal.
huangkwokhau
08-21-2007, 10:31 PM
Yes...very very weak..too many BYEs...I think Maria Febe has a chance to be QTR..same with Andre...
Pia played well lately...hope she can give ZM a hard time..plus they may meet in Surabaya challenge...
I hope INA youngters can take and learn from experiences....very important for our INA badminton future
taufik-ist
08-21-2007, 11:56 PM
Taufik Hidayat :eek:
taufik wants to revenge his defeat to anup :D :D
CLELY
08-22-2007, 12:10 AM
taufik wants to revenge his defeat to anup :D :D
Yeah, It's only possible if TH and Anup bag final tickets because both of them split in different half-draw. Good signal from PBSI to send many youngsters to participate international tourney below SS level.
Krisna
08-23-2007, 04:22 AM
It's quite unlikely that any of the Pelatnas players will even be in contention for the medals. I will be more than happy if Bona/Ahsan, Yulianti/Dili, Tantowi/Yulianti and Devin/Lita can enter the QF,
Not even Taufik Hidayat, badMania? :eek: We all know he is not in his best form, but I still think he can very well win the whole thing... :)
Dreamzz
08-23-2007, 04:25 AM
goodness, from the line-up, it looks more like the INA open than the IND open!
Krisna
08-23-2007, 04:34 AM
Hmmmph, this Indian Open Draw seems to pit too many Indonesians and Chinese in the same side of the draw which leads to many 2nd Round and 3rd Round clashes... I wonder whether they remember to activate the National Separation rule. This is not a Superseries, thus there should be National Separation.
Taufik vs. Tommy in the 2nd round after byes? Chen Yu vs. Lu Yi in the 2nd round? That's no fun... Tommy should play against somebody from India or something. Isn't there enough players picked out of the 1 billion candidates...After that, Tommy can then face Chen Yu/somebody like him... While Taufik will play Lu Yi/somebody like him... more fun for everybody...
Krisna
08-23-2007, 04:52 AM
goodness, from the line-up, it looks more like the INA open than the IND open!
I tend to agree with you... I don't really know why more top 20 Indian shuttlers would not take part in the MS, WS, etc. If this kind of tournament were held in INA, there will be tons of local players who willingly join the qualification stage to have the chance to play against the big boys... :cool:
When I saw the Vietnam Challenge a few months ago, the local players jumped at the opportunity and played their hearts out... :) The support for local heroes was good for badminton in Vietnam... It should be like that too in India.
Did BAI limit the participation to the National Team members or something? I am sure many who are now in Prakash Padukonde Academy and Gopichan's Academy would love the chance to play Taufik or LCW or Bao Chunlai in the first round, even though they know they won't actually win, but it is a privilage to experience TH on the other side of the court... :D Or is Hyderabad so far away for the shuttlers that they don't have money? :o Or is Hyderabad not safe due to bombs etc. that the Indian shuttlers know but the foreign players don't know... :p
Krisna
08-23-2007, 04:59 AM
Yes...very very weak..too many BYEs...I think Maria Febe has a chance to be QTR..same with Andre...
Pia played well lately...hope she can give ZM a hard time..plus they may meet in Surabaya challenge...
I hope INA youngters can take and learn from experiences....very important for our INA badminton future
Now that Zhou Mi pulled out of the Indonesian Challenge... maybe she pulled out of Indian Open too? If so, then Maria Elfira and Pia Zebaidah will have a chance to duel it out for that quarterfinal spot... ;) Then face Julianne Schenk in the quarters for one semifinal spot.
I agree with Hau-ge that Maria Febe can very well go to the quarterfinals, but then she has to play Lu Lan there... :p Oh well...
If Andre beats Yeoh Kay Bin, then his road to the quarterfinals is more open. He might meet Chen Yu or Anup Sridhar there... :p Interesting...
badMania
08-23-2007, 05:00 AM
Or is Hyderabad so far away for the shuttlers that they don't have money? :o Or is Hyderabad not safe due to bombs etc. that the Indian shuttlers know but the foreign players don't know... :p
I think Hyderabad is probably the most modern city in India, clean and safe. Better than Delhi for sure :cool:
badMania
08-23-2007, 05:02 AM
Now that Zhou Mi pulled out of the Indonesian Challenge... maybe she pulled out of Indian Open too? If so, then Maria Elfira and Pia Zebaidah will have a chance to duel it out for that quarterfinal spot... ;) Then face Julianne Schenk in the quarters for one semifinal spot.
I agree with Hau-ge that Maria Febe can very well go to the quarterfinals, but then she has to play Lu Lan there... :p Oh well...
If Andre beats Yeoh Kay Bin, then his road to the quarterfinals is more open. He might meet Chen Yu or Anup Sridhar there... :p Interesting...
I sure hope Zhou Mi does pull out of the Indian Open :D It's time for Pia to get 3850 ranking points or above if she does qualify for the QF.
Tommy Sugiarto is due a good draw...so I hope he beat Taufik Hidayat :cool:
Dreamzz
08-23-2007, 05:05 AM
is there a national separation rule for gold GP events?
yeah, i agree with badmania, hyderabad should be relatively safe, i don't think that's an issue here.
Krisna
08-23-2007, 05:22 AM
I sure hope Zhou Mi does pull out of the Indian Open :D It's time for Pia to get 3850 ranking points or above if she does qualify for the QF.
Tommy Sugiarto is due a good draw...so I hope he beat Taufik Hidayat :cool:
Either Pia or Fira will get the 3850 ranking points... ;) Hey, we start to sound like vching... rankings rankings rankings...
Oh yes, if Tommy can beat Chen Hong [in that World University Games], he can very well beat Taufik... :D
badMania
08-23-2007, 05:35 AM
Either Pia or Fira will get the 3850 ranking points... ;) Hey, we start to sound like vching... rankings rankings rankings...
For junior and second-team players like Tommy, Pia, Andre, Bona/Ahsan, Yulianti/Dili, Tantowi/Yulianti and to a certain extent Devin/Lita, ranking points are of course important for them to get a good draw. Part of the reason why Tommy's draw is almost always shitty is because of his low rankings :cool:
DaN_fAn
08-23-2007, 05:50 AM
hyderabad should be relatively safe, i don't think that's an issue here.
not just relatively, but very safe just like any other event.i dont know what Krisna is talking about.
Dreamzz
08-23-2007, 06:47 AM
hahaha, he was probably just guessing at reasons why some of the players pulled out, i'm sure he meant no offence.
Krisna
08-23-2007, 11:07 AM
Did BAI limit the participation to the National Team members or something? I am sure many who are now in Prakash Padukonde Academy and Gopichan's Academy would love the chance to play Taufik or LCW or Bao Chunlai in the first round, even though they know they won't actually win, but it is a privilage to experience TH on the other side of the court... :D Or is Hyderabad so far away for the shuttlers that they don't have money? :o Or is Hyderabad not safe due to bombs etc. that the Indian shuttlers know but the foreign players don't know... :p
not just relatively, but very safe just like any other event.i dont know what Krisna is talking about.
hahaha, he was probably just guessing at reasons why some of the players pulled out, i'm sure he meant no offence.
Yes, Dreamzz is correct. Sorry I have no idea what the safety condition there... :o I was just asking why isn't India Open full of the local Indian Shuttlers? Is there a safety issue or not? If not, as you mentioned DaN_fAn, then ok, there has to be another reason? I'm still curious... ;)
Actually, I am also intrigued... why aren't there many Pakistani, Sri Lankan, Iranian, Nepalese, Bhutanese, Bangladeshi shuttlers competing at the Indian Open? In Southeast Asia, whenever there are BWF-sanctioned tournaments, the neighbours will 'invade' each other... :D I suppose because the plane tickets are cheaper compared to sending these shuttlers to Europe etc.
'Invade' a nice way, of course... ;) Last time, during the Vietnam Challenge, Malaysia sent 40+ shuttlers, Indonesia sent 40+ shuttlers, Thailand sent 30+ shuttlers, Singapore... er... I forgot, but many... even Korea sent 20+ shuttlers... While Vietnam, the host, sent 50 or 60 shuttlers to play in all categories. It was a lot of fun... :) Athletes are extra motivated when playing against someon from another country... Big pride...
Thailand Open Gold GP and Philippine Open Gold GP was similarly invaded by our fellow ASEAN neighbours while many Thais and Philippinos played... The qualification matches were full. Very full... :)
malayali
08-23-2007, 11:37 AM
Report from HINDU:-
Seventeen Indian players, 11 in the men's draw and six in women's section, will take part in singles events of the tournament.
World No 3 Chong Wei faces a tough challenge from compatriot Bao Chunlai and Chen Yu while Hidayat is also a serious threat to the Malaysian's title hopes.
In the men's doubles, Candra Wijaya of Indonesia and American Tony Gunawan have got the top billing but will be wary of the threat from the Korean and Malaysian pairs.
World Championships runners-up Jung Jae Sung-Lee Yong Dae are seeded third while their teammates Lee Jae Jin-Hwang Ji Man are the No 2 seeds.
The top Indian pair of Rupesh Kumar and Thomas Sanave will meet Bona Septano and Ahsan Mohamad of Indonesia in the first round.
V Diju and Akshay Diwalkar and Dinesh T and Jayan James are the other two Indian pairs in the draw.
In the women's doubles, Chinese Yang Wei and Zhang Jiewen, also crowned champions in Kuala Lumpur last week, continue their partnership and are the top seeds.
The Indian duo of Jwala Gutta and Shruti Kurian have got a bye in the first round. Besides them Aparna Balana and Saina Nehwal, and Ashwin Ponappa and Nitya Sasala, have also teamed up.
In the mixed doubles, the Indian pairs of V Diju-Aparna Balan and Vineeth Manuel-Jyotsna P have got a bye in the first round.
Krisna
08-23-2007, 12:08 PM
I just checked again... in the Vietnam Challenge:
Malaysia sent 57 players :eek:
They even exceeded Vietnam, the host, who registered 55 players... :p
Indonesia was third in size with 41 players. :)
So, as you can see.... this started my curiosity on why not so many Indian shuttlers taking part of their own Indian Open?!? http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif Dreamzz's comment about how this looks like an INA Open rather than an IND Open started my curiousity... and then I also saw soo many byes in the 1st round of MS and the lack of qualification participants in the other categories. Leads to the question: why aren't the Indian athletes participating in their most prestigious tournament? http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif
abedeng
08-24-2007, 02:53 AM
Maybe India only wants to send those players who can be competitive. No very logical when you are the host, I know.
badmad
08-24-2007, 03:25 AM
Maybe India only wants to send those players who can be competitive. No very logical when you are the host, I know.
or maybe there are just as many players as that.... :p u can get the idea about the number of people who take badminton seriously in india.
also, in my opinion, reason(s) for this event to take place in hyderabad are:
1. Gopichand has his academy there in Hyderabad. Padukone has his in Bangalore and i guess that would have been the other option.
2. Many of indian shuttlers are from the Andra Pradesh and Hyderabad is its state capital. (others are kerala, maharashtra and karnataka).
i can't rule out the possibility tat gopi has pulled this event in hyd... :)
cqmy1612
08-24-2007, 03:52 AM
hmm. wow! malaysia is bringing a whole big group there with 57 players?! hope they won't disappoint us :(
DaN_fAn
08-24-2007, 07:08 AM
I just checked again... in the Vietnam Challenge:
Malaysia sent 57 players :eek:
They even exceeded Vietnam, the host, who registered 55 players... :p
Indonesia was third in size with 41 players. :)
So, as you can see.... this started my curiosity on why not so many Indian shuttlers taking part of their own Indian Open?!? http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif Dreamzz's comment about how this looks like an INA Open rather than an IND Open started my curiousity... and then I also saw soo many byes in the 1st round of MS and the lack of qualification participants in the other categories. Leads to the question: why aren't the Indian athletes participating in their most prestigious tournament? http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon5.gif
The system right now in India is that the selected players for major tourneys train in one camp before every major tournament and only those players are allowed to play in that tournament.so i dont see how they can have 57 players train in a camp.so maybe that's the reason.
but it does not make much sense.
cqmy1612
08-24-2007, 07:12 AM
hmm. yea. how is it possible to have 57 players training in one camp? hmm...
Krisna
08-24-2007, 11:32 AM
hmm. yea. how is it possible to have 57 players training in one camp? hmm...
Oh, in the Vietnam Challenge where Malaysia sent 57 athletes, not all of them are from the National Team. Some are from their sports school, some are from Malaysian badminton clubs. Just like the INA players in that Vietnam Challenge and this Indian Open are not all from the National Team, some are from Indonesian badminton clubs.
In the Indonesian Open and Indonesian Challenge, we shall also see many Indonesian badminton club players in addition to the National Team Players. That's the way it should be... :D It's a lof of fun that way... ;)
So shouldn't we expect not only the Indian National Team players, but also those players from the various Indian Badminton Academy & Clubs to participate in their own Indian Open Gold GP? :confused:
DaN_fAn said the current system in India is to train a selected few train together to go to tournaments... I can understand some of the rationale behind that system IF it is done for International tournaments. But if the same system is used for a big tournament held in India?!? :confused: Not a very good idea, I think. :confused:
It is better to let the other academy/club players compete. Just look at the MS draw... aiyaa, so many byes...There are so many open spots there... better to let Indian shuttlers experience playing Taufik, LCW, Bao, etc... Even if they loose, that's an experience of a lifetime that they will talk about all their lives [maybe]...
Well, that's my own opinion... :D
Krisna
08-24-2007, 11:48 AM
DaN_fAn, how many badminton clubs are out there in India? How many players are playing in India [just give estimates]? :confused: I am just curious...
malayali
08-24-2007, 02:30 PM
Your question really should be "How many world-class players are playing in India" ???
DaN_fAn, how many badminton clubs are out there in India? How many players are playing in India [just give estimates]? :confused: I am just curious...
DaN_fAn
08-24-2007, 10:23 PM
Your question really should be "How many world-class players are playing in India" ???
I dont really know the stats but i would say that the number of Players are increasing and the coming pool of players Saina,Anup,Anand Pawar,P.Kashyap,Aditi have the game to be competitive at the world class level plus the age on their side and plus which for me is an important factor.....somebody like Gopi as their coach.
And of course there are much older guys like Chetan Anand who will look to prove a pt. here after Anup's show.
Krisna
08-24-2007, 10:27 PM
Your question really should be "How many world-class players are playing in India" ???
No no...:p really, how many total players and clubs... In INA, [supposedly] we have around 500,000 active club players [not necessarily competing in tournaments] and maybe 2000+ registered clubs all over our 17,000 islands. I just want to compare the badminton base...
As for the Indian Open, whether world-class or not world-class yet, I think Indian players should participate. Not necessarily to win the tournament, but to measure abilities. :)
DaN_fAn
08-24-2007, 10:31 PM
Also as far as upcoming players are concerned ou will be quit e suprised to know that last year in the National Junior Championships[includes U-10,U-13,U-16 and 19]the draw had upto 1,500 entries!
So Baddy is gaining popularity here but only a handful of these guys actually Pursue a career in baddy.Most drop out after they have finished 19 yrs.but regular tournaments like these and we can only get better.
One more thing i feel is that a system is being bought into place after Gopi's become coach and you can quite see the results lately.
cqmy1612
08-24-2007, 10:41 PM
No no...:p really, how many total players and clubs... In INA, [supposedly] we have around 500,000 active club players [not necessarily competing in tournaments] and maybe 2000+ registered clubs all over our 17,000 islands. I just want to compare the badminton base...
As for the Indian Open, whether world-class or not world-class yet, I think Indian players should participate. Not necessarily to win the tournament, but to measure abilities. :)
yea. I agree with you. no matter. win or lose. it's all about the experience to play with world class players. that would be great for them right? they will surely say.. ''woot.. I played against 1 of the top players.. and it's so great! I would 1 day wanna compete with them. and I would wanna win against them'' .. at least there's something to shout about aite? the thing is.. India Open GP right? they should allow more Indian players to play. no matter world class or not world class yet.. what do you guys think?
Krisna
08-24-2007, 10:43 PM
In my small INA town of 600,000, the participation of the Under 14, Under 12, and Under 10 is around 400 entries for a county tournament... Then around 800 entries if they have a multi-county tournament [usually 4 counties are involved]. A typical domestic circuit will also draw 1500 entries.
Participation in our National Championship is not too big, actually. Maximum 4 player/pair per province. And there are 32 provinces. Oh, and INA only has the Under 19 National Championship. No Under-16, 14, 12, 10. The lower age groups are only for county level competition.
cqmy1612
08-24-2007, 10:48 PM
In my small INA town of 600,000, the participation of the Under 14, Under 12, and Under 10 is around 400 entries for a county tournament... Then around 800 entries if they have a multi-county tournament [usually 4 counties are involved]. A typical domestic circuit will also draw 1500 entries.
Participation in our National Championship is not too big, actually. Maximum 4 player/pair per province. And there are 32 provinces. Oh, and INA only has the Under 19 National Championship. No Under-16, 14, 12, 10. The lower age groups are only for county level competition.
hmm. wanna ask a question.. India is popular with dis sport? badminton? :confused:
Krisna
08-24-2007, 10:49 PM
yea. I agree with you. no matter. win or lose. it's all about the experience to play with world class players. that would be great for them right? they will surely say.. ''woot.. I played against 1 of the top players.. and it's so great! I would 1 day wanna compete with them. and I would wanna win against them'' .. at least there's something to shout about aite? the thing is.. India Open GP right? they should allow more Indian players to play. no matter world class or not world class yet.. what do you guys think?
Yeah man. I totally agree, of course. I would love to play against Taufik, Bao, LCW... Of course I know I will loose, but it is fun. I know in Indonesia's National Championship, after most local players played [and lost] to Taufik, they would ask to take photos with him. :D They were 4 or 5 levels below Taufik in badminton skill, but their love for badminton will grow even more...
cqmy1612
08-24-2007, 10:53 PM
Yeah man. I totally agree, of course. I would love to play against Taufik, Bao, LCW... Of course I know I will loose, but it is fun. I know in Indonesia's National Championship, after most local players played [and lost] to Taufik, they would ask to take photos with him. :D They were 4 or 5 levels below Taufik in badminton skill, but their love for badminton will grow even more...
haha yea. but at least we've tried our very best to play with them. In Indonesia, eventhough they lost. but I bet Taufik or any other Indonesian players will give them [people like us] tips and all. and who knows.. they branch out to be a professional players in the future? beating taufik others? who knows? haha.
chris-ccc
08-25-2007, 02:29 AM
I was just asking why isn't India Open full of the local Indian Shuttlers?
Maybe India only wants to send those players who can be competitive. No very logical when you are the host, I know.
Hi Krisna & abedeng,
According to HeadlinesIndia.com on Thursday, August 23, 2007, India has a 34-member squad, while the Chinese is sending an 18-member team.
For that article from the HeadlinesIndia.com, visit this thread located at:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?p=646966#post646966
Cheers... chris@ccc
jasonmarc
08-25-2007, 04:07 AM
Looking at the draw, LCW is likely to meet PSH and followed with CY or Anup S .... considered tough....for LCW present form.....worry! and TH may meet LHI in QF and BCL in SF...also tough...AND LOOKS quite a balance draw this time.
Krisna
08-25-2007, 06:10 AM
Hi Krisna & abedeng,
According to HeadlinesIndia.com on Thursday, August 23, 2007, India has a 34-member squad, while the Chinese is sending an 18-member team.
34... that's better than 17 that the other news said [posted by malayali]... :p Still not enough eh? The fact that so few players participated [and ended up with no qualification rounds] is still pretty bad. :o
Anyway, I am not saying all this to discredit badminton in India. On the contrary, I want to see badminton BOOM in India! Better for the whole world's badminton development. :) I can imagine the attention badminton can get if China, Indonesia, India, and the USA is in the semifinals of Thomas Cup and Uber Cup regularly... Yes, the key word is 'regularly' here.
One hit wonders won't really work. Tony-Howard's World Championship title for the USA was a big event for badminton fans, but as far as worldwide sport fans' concern, it didn't really made badminton a top watched sport...
While in the quarterfinals we see other big countries like Brazil, Russia, Germany, Mexico, Argentina, France, Pakistan, South Africa, Nigeria, Iran etc. [...quite regularly]. Now that's a worldwide game... ;) I said 'quite regularly' here because I can't see how the traditional powers will go away. Malaysia, South Korea, Denmark, Japan, Thailand, etc. tend to stick around throughout history. At least at the quarterfinals level... :)
DaN_fAn
08-25-2007, 08:45 AM
34... that's better than 17 that the other news said [posted by malayali]... :p Still not enough eh? The fact that so few players participated [and ended up with no qualification rounds] is still pretty bad. :o
Anyway, I am not saying all this to discredit badminton in India. On the contrary, I want to see badminton BOOM in India! Better for the whole world's badminton development. :) I can imagine the attention badminton can get if China, Indonesia, India, and the USA is in the semifinals of Thomas Cup and Uber Cup regularly... Yes, the key word is 'regularly' here.
One hit wonders won't really work. Tony-Howard's World Championship title for the USA was a big event for badminton fans, but as far as worldwide sport fans' concern, it didn't really made badminton a top watched sport...
While in the quarterfinals we see other big countries like Brazil, Russia, Germany, Mexico, Argentina, France, Pakistan, South Africa, Nigeria, Iran etc. [...quite regularly]. Now that's a worldwide game... ;) I said 'quite regularly' here because I can't see how the traditional powers will go away. Malaysia, South Korea, Denmark, Japan, Thailand, etc. tend to stick around throughout history. At least at the quarterfinals level... :)
That would be a fairytale:D
But you are right about one thing.India can be a great market for Badminton.Did u know that over 70% of money in world cricket comes from India.
Krisna
08-25-2007, 01:42 PM
That would be a fairytale:D
But you are right about one thing.India can be a great market for Badminton.Did u know that over 70% of money in world cricket comes from India.
I did't know that... 70% huh? If only some of the money actually goes to the 'cool' sport [Badminton]... :D
Krisna
08-26-2007, 01:35 AM
Or is Hyderabad not safe due to bombs etc. that the Indian shuttlers know but the foreign players don't know...
I think Hyderabad is probably the most modern city in India, clean and safe. Better than Delhi for sure :cool:
yeah, i agree with badmania, hyderabad should be relatively safe, i don't think that's an issue here.
not just relatively, but very safe just like any other event.i dont know what Krisna is talking about.
hahaha, he was probably just guessing at reasons why some of the players pulled out, i'm sure he meant no offence.
Ok, since I have maybe sort of almost offended some people by asking whether Hyderabad is safe from bombs ... er... let me just ask politely: are these information correct? :confused:
An Indian friend of mine [who strikes me as very knowledgeable] told me 4 weeks ago that Hyderabad is not safe and prone to bombs. That's why I asked in this BC forum... I myself don't know the reality since Hyderabad is so far away from Jakarta... But having lived through multiple bombs in Indonesia, I sort of know the feeling... :( :mad: Those bombers are very cruel! :mad:
[B]43 Dead In Bomb Blasts
HYDERABAD, India (Reuters) - ...
Bombs packed with metal pellets killed 43 people on Saturday (25 Aug) at a packed street food-stall and an amusement park. Police have found another dozen bombs -- fitted with timers and placed in plastic bags -- at bus stops, cinema halls, road junctions and pedestrian bridges across Hyderabad, capital of Andhra Pradesh state, after Saturday night's blasts in the city.
Nearly 80 people, including women and children, were wounded by the three blasts that went off within the space of a few minutes. Some of the wounded were in critical condition.The police said each of the bombs also contained ammonium and were rigged with alarm clocks.
Eleven people died in two blasts at the Lumbini amusement park during a laser light show, while 32 died in the explosion at the street food stall in the heart of the city's commercial district, police said. The blasts in Hyderabad, one of India's biggest cities, are the latest in a series of militant attacks in large urban centers in the past two years, including New Delhi and the commercial hub of Mumbai.
Krisna
08-26-2007, 01:42 AM
India Bomb Explosions Kill 40, Injure 50 in Hyderabad
By Ashok Bhattacharjee and Bibhudatta Pradhan
Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Two bombs exploded in the southern Indian city of Hyderabad late yesterday, killing 40 people and injuring another 50, a state minister said. Another two explosive devices were defused, he said.
One bomb blew up at a street-side restaurant in the Kothi area of the city, while another rocked an open-air auditorium in the Lumbini Park area, Jeevan Reddy, state minister for roads and buildings, said today in a telephone interview.
``Explosives were planted at four places. Police defused them at two locations,'' Reddy said. ``It's very difficult to say who is involved in planting the bombs. It's definitely a terrorist attack.'' State officials are meeting to discuss stepping up security as investigations are conducted.
``This is a terror plot, this is a terror attack,'' Hyderabad's Police Commissioner Balwinder Singh said in a telephone interview. ``But the situation is now under control.''
Hyderabad, the capital of the southern state of Andhra Pradesh, has a large Muslim population among its 6.5 million inhabitants. A bomb at a mosque on May 18 killed 11 people when it exploded during Friday afternoon prayers.
Press Trust of India put the toll at 42 dead, citing police. The restaurant death toll was put at 32 and the fatalities at the open-air auditorium, where a laser show was going on, totaled 10, PTI said.
Scenes of Destruction
Television pictures showed blue fiber-glass seats, plastic bags, blood-splattered clothes and shoes strewn around the seating area at Lumbini Park.
The front of the restaurant, which sells spicy Indian snacks, was ripped apart by the blast. Television images showed police and medical volunteers cordoning off the entrance to city hospitals, where the injured were being taken.
Hyderabad has sought to build itself as a rival to Bangalore as India's software and services-outsourcing hub, and is the headquarters of Dr. Reddy's Laboratories Ltd., the country's largest drugmaker by sales, and Satyam Computer Services Ltd., its fourth-biggest computer-software exporter.
Tensions between India's majority Hindus and its Muslim minority often flare into violence and are mirrored by the rivalry between India and neighboring Pakistan, which were both ruled by Britain until independence in 1947.
India, Pakistan
An almost two-decade-old insurgency in Jammu and Kashmir, India's only Muslim-majority state, has left at least 50,000 people dead. India has accused Pakistan of supporting the insurgency, a charge Pakistan denies.
``We have to stand united, regardless of what religion we are,'' Asaduddin Owaisi, a member of Parliament from Hyderabad who belongs to the All India Majlis-e Ittihad al-Muslimin, which represents Muslims, said in a televised interview.
More should have been done to investigate the Mecca Masjid explosion of May 18, Owaisi said. Explosions on commuter trains and at railway stations in Mumbai, India's financial capital, on July 11 of last year left 184 people dead. The explosions, the worst such attack in 13 years, caused the 44-month-old peace process between India and Pakistan to break down, an initiative that resumed only in November.
In other attacks, 65 people died on Feb. 19 when two bombs exploded on an Indian train near the Pakistan border. Last September, explosions near a mosque in the western town of Malegaon in Maharashtra left 31 people dead.
To contact the reporters on this story: Ashok Bhattacharjee in New Delhi at ashokb@bloomberg.net (ashokb@bloomberg.net) ; Bibhudatta Pradhan in New Delhi at bpradhan@bloomberg.net (bpradhan@bloomberg.net) .
Krisna
08-26-2007, 02:00 AM
Hi Krisna & abedeng,
According to HeadlinesIndia.com on Thursday, August 23, 2007, India has a 34-member squad, while the Chinese is sending an 18-member team.
Just for additional info, in next week's Indonesian Challenge, the INA participants are:
35 MS players
22 WS players
27 MD pairs
15 WD pairs
19 XD pairs
Compare that with the 34 member Indian players total who registered for the Indian Open. Anyway, I know I am making a moot point now. Most likely Indian Open will be cancelled... [though I hope not]...
huangkwokhau
08-26-2007, 03:16 AM
expect more withdrawals after the bombing......
jasonmarc
08-26-2007, 08:18 AM
Better not go.....so unsafe...sad..for peoples in Hyderabad and badminton sport in India..hope every things back to normal soon...
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