Men' Singles:

Lin Dan

Women's Singles:

Zhou Mi

Men's Doubles:

Tony Gunawan/ Chandra Wijaya

Mixed Doubles:

Flandy/ Vita Marissa

Women's Doubles:

Yang Wei/ Zhang Jiewen

How bout u guys? anny comment :) Love to hear it!

This is just my point of views =-)

Men Singles

Lin Dan

Women Singles

Zhang Ning

SM naD niL
SW iM uohZ

Men' Singles:

Lin Dan

Women's Singles:

Zhou Mi

Men's Doubles:

Tony Gunawan/ Chandra Wijaya

Mixed Doubles:

Flandy/ Vita Marissa

Women's Doubles:

Yang Wei/ Zhang Jiewen

How bout u guys? anny comment :) Love to hear it!

This is just my point of views =-)

ALL ASIAN PLAYERS BE THE WINNERS!!!
WHERE ARE THOSE EURO PLAYERS???

ALL ASIAN PLAYERS BE THE WINNERS!!!
WHERE ARE THOSE EURO PLAYERS???

they're not good enough. lol. :p:p. but honestly, is there much point to picking winners than showing who you like most at the moment? after all those pick a winners for world champs, most "winners" like Lee Chong Wei and Fu/Cai, and Xie Xingfang, got blasted off the court. maybe we should sit back and watch and let the players surprise us.

Exactly....too early predicting the winners do not make sense at all :cool:

Well there are many who also predicts winners before.. its ok for an individual to predict. No harm. We can have our own predictions as well.

Well there are many who also predicts winners before.. its ok for an individual to predict. No harm. We can have our own predictions as well.

i know that. i'm not saying it's wrong. just that many many predictions usually turn out wrong. i'm just suggesting it might be more fun to watch and get surprised

I think its better to make prediction round by round as we already know who the players meet in one particular round.....its more interesting

i know that. i'm not saying it's wrong. just that many many predictions usually turn out wrong. i'm just suggesting it might be more fun to watch and get surprised


HEheh :). True true. Maybe he want to cut short all the hassle.

men single: LEE CHONG WEI
woman single: either wong mew choo or xie xing fang
men double: koo kien keat/tan boon heong
woman double:GL/HS or YW/ZJW
mixed double:GL/ZB

that is my prediction on Japan Open Winners

Men Single : Lee Chong Wei
Women Single : Wong Mew Choo
Men Doubles : KKK-TBH

It is written in the stars.

but i fink ZHU LIN mayb will win the woman singles

Men Single : Lee Chong Wei
Women Single : Wong Mew Choo
Men Doubles : KKK-TBH

It is written in the stars.

welcome back XBALL :p :p :p

don't give a pressure to much to LCW :p :p :p

mine
(first order has bigger chance)

MS: lindan,TH,LCW,Sony,Gade
MD: MK/HS,jap Md (who defeated TBH/KKK in wc 2007),Cai/Fu,TBH/KKK
XD: Nova/Lilyana, Zb/Gao ling, Vita/Flandy
WD: China WD,Vita/Lilyana,China WD
WS; -----CHINA WD------

Men Single : Lee Chong Wei
Women Single : Wong Mew Choo
Men Doubles : KKK-TBH

It is written in the stars.

The kind of stars that rotate around your head after you knock yourself goofy...:p

The kind of stars that rotate around your head after you knock yourself goofy...:p

i don't know what xball will be if Lcw loses to hafidz in first round :D

definately NOT a single Msian player to win, none of them...hehe...

funny thing is, all these malaysian fans kept saying with supreme confidence how Lee Chong Wei and Koo and Tan would deliver in the World Champs. i followed many threads which had many proclaiming they would be the first to win the gold. sadly, i don't recall any malaysians in any finals. so once again, i think predictions usually won't be that true. if you want predictions, there's an invention called seeding. i believe that's the best form of prediction. :D

funny thing is, all these malaysian fans kept saying with supreme confidence how Lee Chong Wei and Koo and Tan would deliver in the World Champs. i followed many threads which had many proclaiming they would be the first to win the gold. sadly, i don't recall any malaysians in any finals. so once again, i think predictions usually won't be that true. if you want predictions, there's an invention called seeding. i believe that's the best form of prediction. :D

You meant seeding for each dispicline for SS? Well, in many SS before. We harldy see the NO. 1 seed win in their respective field...
Take WC'07 for example.. The only top seed manage to prove his standing at the seeding is LD.. The rest.. :rolleyes:

You meant seeding for each dispicline for SS? Well, in many SS before. We harldy see the NO. 1 seed win in their respective field...
Take WC'07 for example.. The only top seed manage to prove his standing at the seeding is LD.. The rest.. :rolleyes:

Exactly. There is seeding, but there are also UPSETS which happened alot in the WC07.

Men Single : Lee Chong Wei
Women Single : Wong Mew Choo
Men Doubles : KKK-TBH

It is written in the stars.

So quickly to forget the shame upon the WC07 huh?
And the promise that you acknowledge that whoever won the WC07 is the best player in the world. :cool:

So quickly to forget the shame upon the WC07 huh?
And the promise that you acknowledge that whoever won the WC07 is the best player in the world. :cool:
I don't see any shame in WC07. What stands out is how hard all the players have worked resulting in the unbelievable kind of upsets and these winners deserve their wins.This is great for badminton because the ones who had suffered upsets are going to work to raise their level further. So we badminton fans have reason to celebrate and much to look forward to.
And WC07 showed LD as the best player in the world for now.

Men's Doubles:

Tony Gunawan/ Chandra Wijaya
..they are slated to meet the U.S. #1 MD pair, Howard & Bob in their opening match..It could be a close one, but i think Tony & Candra should advance..And btw, Tony (and his partner, Raju Rai) lost a close battle to Howard & Bob in the Semis of the current U.S. Open..;)

Actually it was good achiecement considering that this is first time that Raju/Tony played the first time....still miscommunication during the match...I think it is common as they have not played long enough as a team yet....at least it is for Raju to learn from the more experienced Tony...

So quickly to forget the shame upon the WC07 huh?
And the promise that you acknowledge that whoever won the WC07 is the best player in the world. :cool:

I acknowledge LD is the WC. But I think you are as good as your last game. LCW is out for revenge. I think Sony caught LCW fair and square in the WC but I think LCW now knows why he lost (and I thought Sony actually pinned LCW down in the WC).

LCW will rebound like he did in IO (Volcom, do you remember how BAO and Chen Jin were 'destroyed' by LCW?).

I acknowledge LD is the WC. But I think you are as good as your last game. LCW is out for revenge. I think Sony caught LCW fair and square in the WC but I think LCW now knows why he lost (and I thought Sony actually pinned LCW down in the WC).

LCW will rebound like he did in IO (Volcom, do you remember how BAO and Chen Jin were 'destroyed' by LCW?).

first round againts Hafidz will be very difficult for LCW.. hafidz wants to prove he's not finished yet :D..

I acknowledge LD is the WC. But I think you are as good as your last game. LCW is out for revenge. I think Sony caught LCW fair and square in the WC but I think LCW now knows why he lost (and I thought Sony actually pinned LCW down in the WC).

LCW will rebound like he did in IO (Volcom, do you remember how BAO and Chen Jin were 'destroyed' by LCW?).

It will be hard for anyone to remember LCW "destroyed" Chen Jin in IO, because it never happened... Chen Jin lost to Taufik, and therefore could not possibly lose again to somebody else.:rolleyes:

first round againts Hafidz will be very difficult for LCW.. hafidz wants to prove he's not finished yet :D..

If Hafiz wins "again"(I might add) against LCW in the 1st round just like in Singapore... then it is true that instead of LCW bouncing back, Hafiz becomes the one.:p

If Hafiz wins "again"(I might add) against LCW in the 1st round just like in Singapore... then it is true that instead of LCW bouncing back, Hafiz becomes the one.:p
If it is, you will be the happiest guy as they will allow you to use 'bananaboy' again.....hehehe:D:D:D

If it is, you will be the happiest guy as they will allow you to use 'bananaboy' again.....hehehe:D:D:D

I bet most people don't want to see the "real" bananaboy returns with a vengeance...LOL:p

If it is, you will be the happiest guy as they will allow you to use 'bananaboy' again.....hehehe:D:D:D
i think not, he's getting used to using 'bananakid' lol :p

btw, this is a really hard situation for MAS singles... hafiz and lcw are both trying to bounce back from loses... in this match, one will bounce back, and the other's hope and confidence will be badly dashed by yet another loss...
i hope the best for them...

You meant seeding for each dispicline for SS? Well, in many SS before. We harldy see the NO. 1 seed win in their respective field...
Take WC'07 for example.. The only top seed manage to prove his standing at the seeding is LD.. The rest.. :rolleyes:

my exact point. even the most "accurate" and "sensible" predictions, i.e seedings, is still flawed. after all, why doesn't BWF listen to all the Malaysian, Indonesian or China fans. if they did, they'd have seeding by nationality. which does not work. the only proper predictions which is logical is seeding via points. and even that is flawed. so what makes people think that they will have a good chance at correctly predicting the winner of any tournament?

I acknowledge LD is the WC. But I think you are as good as your last game. LCW is out for revenge. I think Sony caught LCW fair and square in the WC but I think LCW now knows why he lost (and I thought Sony actually pinned LCW down in the WC).

but how will you know that Lee will get better, not worse? like you said, you're only as good as your last game. what happens if Lin Dan gets even better? too many imponderables to truly know

but how will you know that Lee will get better, not worse? like you said, you're only as good as your last game. what happens if Lin Dan gets even better? too many imponderables to truly know

Yes, LD might come back stronger -- but, and there is always a 'but' if you seek it. LCW gave a reason that he was affected by his coach mentally and that affected his play when Sony up the tempo against him (he was mentally drained to fight back). And I believe him coz he was not a happy chappy and therefore could not win. A frank chat with the BAM boss, Nadzmi, who tried to smooth the wrinkles between the chief coach and LCW, and some strong encouragement from Nadzmi should get the mind back on course for LCW.

LCW is no stranger when it comes to a weak mind -- he is noted for that, and 'suggestive' encouragement works well with him (and that friendly yet stern pep talk from the BAM boss is sure to go a long way). My prediction was based on that alone. We know LCW at his best is as good as LD, if not better. To underestimate him on one loss (even though the WC), would be wrong if he is focused.

If LCW were to lost against HH in the first round of JO07. It will takes longer time for him to get back into position from where he suppose in..

Yes, LD might come back stronger -- but, and there is always a 'but' if you seek it. LCW gave a reason that he was affected by his coach mentally and that affected his play when Sony up the tempo against him (he was mentally drained to fight back). And I believe him coz he was not a happy chappy and therefore could not win. A frank chat with the BAM boss, Nadzmi, who tried to smooth the wrinkles between the chief coach and LCW, and some strong encouragement from Nadzmi should get the mind back on course for LCW.

LCW is no stranger when it comes to a weak mind -- he is noted for that, and 'suggestive' encouragement works well with him (and that friendly yet stern pep talk from the BAM boss is sure to go a long way). My prediction was based on that alone. We know LCW at his best is as good as LD, if not better. To underestimate him on one loss (even though the WC), would be wrong if he is focused.

but why think that he is going to win, based on that alone? after all, there maybe something else which is outside his control, e.g. he plays badly for one match(something which is hard to predict) and loses.

my exact point. even the most "accurate" and "sensible" predictions, i.e seedings, is still flawed. after all, why doesn't BWF listen to all the Malaysian, Indonesian or China fans. if they did, they'd have seeding by nationality. which does not work. the only proper predictions which is logical is seeding via points. and even that is flawed. so what makes people think that they will have a good chance at correctly predicting the winner of any tournament?
You can't stop people from predicting a winner.. Else u won't find so many demand of Internet betting on football.
Seeding.. As you said, all suggestion will be flawed... Then how to determine who to qualify for major tournaments , such as Olympics, WC? Randomly picked? Or based on Nationality of players? for example: Chinese 5 MS, INA 4, MAS 2 etc....?
Ranking Systems should keeps. It is the key measurement for players. At the same time. It encourage players to participate in most of the badminton tournament sanction by BWF to gain more points.
Imagine if we take off the ranking points systems. I am sure we will hardly see top players to come for many tournaments. Coz they already assure themselve a place in the Olympics/ WC. No point to waste their energy here & there...
The ranking also use to determine seedings of each tournament. Which is fair. It a player want to get seeded. The only thing he to do is participate in more tournaments & get the consistent results.

You can't stop people from predicting a winner.. Else u won't find so many demand of Internet betting on football.
Seeding.. As you said, all suggestion will be flawed... Then how to determine who to qualify for major tournaments , such as Olympics, WC? Randomly picked? Or based on Nationality of players? for example: Chinese 5 MS, INA 4, MAS 2 etc....?
Ranking Systems should keeps. It is the key measurement for players. At the same time. It encourage players to participate in most of the badminton tournament sanction by BWF to gain more points.
Imagine if we take off the ranking points systems. I am sure we will hardly see top players to come for many tournaments. Coz they already assure themselve a place in the Olympics/ WC. No point to waste their energy here & there...
The ranking also use to determine seedings of each tournament. Which is fair. It a player want to get seeded. The only thing he to do is participate in more tournaments & get the consistent results.

i'm not saying that we shouldn't have seeding by points. no way. i'm just saying, even THIS is flawed, i.e. it can't always pick the correct winner, so i highly doubt that one could accurately predict a winner based on their own thoughts. and i'm not stopping anyone from predicting. just saying unless you're gambling, then maybe it'd be more fun getting surprised rather than saying, Lee Chong Wei, or Lin Dan or Peter Gade is going to win. then get sad cos they didn't.

Dear members,
My prediction: MS-LCW
WS- Zhang Ning
MD- KKK & TBH

My prediction for MS winner is Boonsak or Ronald Susilo :eek:

MS winner fro japan open 207


SONY DWI KUNCORO

I will say LCW.The nightmare in WC may happen again.we have to get ready for that.
But LCW is back now.he once again turn into a humble,nice and polite player.
He asked for forgiveness for his controversial statement.he's ready for the next game and will leave the failure in WC.ha has his fans and he has malaysians.

but why think that he is going to win, based on that alone?


Why not ? It is as good a reason to think he will win based on that. In the IO, he won on that basis so it may not be any different.

i'm not saying that we shouldn't have seeding by points. no way. i'm just saying, even THIS is flawed, i.e. it can't always pick the correct winner, so i highly doubt that one could accurately predict a winner based on their own thoughts. and i'm not stopping anyone from predicting. just saying unless you're gambling, then maybe it'd be more fun getting surprised rather than saying, Lee Chong Wei, or Lin Dan or Peter Gade is going to win. then get sad cos they didn't.

Its indeed every normal for badminton fans to pick the winner base on the World Rankings. I doubt any one would have pick Anup/Wacha/Chan YanKit/etc (Maybe with the exception of "Bananakids" :D:D) to win in any SS events that they have been participating in..

The prediction just get us going & really into the games while watching the match itself or even "LiveScore".
They will feel sad if their favorite was lose (Just for some little periods) , but life is still must go on..

hey come on!
for those who said we should not predict the winner in a game,do u expect to have a quiet and lonely stadium.?
Fans wont cheer for the player if they do not support them .No matter how good the player is.Thats the role of fans.To predict,to choose ,to support and to cheer.u cant turn the world into pell-mell.fans have their own roles.So do the players.

MS: John Moody... hahahah :D

WS: Julia Wong.....
MD: TBS/OSH

.....clearly... i made my predictions based on..... NOTHING... :D

:cool: Really Deeply Supporting The Samurai Darlings for the Women Doubles! Go Reiko Shiota & Kumiko Ogura, show the World how it is done!:D

:cool: Another prediction would be the best Dark Horse of all the seeded players in the Men's Singles! Go, Kenneth Jonassen, show also the World the value of an underdog!:D

:cool: Another prediction would be the best Dark Horse of all the seeded players in the Men's Singles! Go, Kenneth Jonassen, show also the World the value of an underdog!:D

Should be "OLD DOGS" :D:D

WS: Julia Wong.....
MD: TBS/OSH

.....clearly... i made my predictions based on..... NOTHING... :D

No..based on the Contrarian Theory...:D:D:D

No..based on the Contrarian Theory...:D:D:D
errr..... apa itu???? hehe :D

my predictions

MS: most likely Lin Dan, as usual. but i want to see Chen Yu winning a tournament. or Bao. they're always standing in the shadow of Lin Dan.

WS: Zhang Ning or Xie, depending of form.

i'd just like to add, you can support players, but predictions are slightly different. predictions are who you think will win. not who you want to win. i think Lin Dan will win. but i like Chen Yu a look better.

hehe.. predictions is who u think will win based on a concrete recent achievements.... i think Lin Dan will win too.. but might be upsets coming up... cuz its impossible for one to continue win without a loss.... even roger federer has to lose someday.. and the signs are already shown... so will lin dan.. wonder will he survive till OG '08... hmmmmm

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/225/tses5.gif

:D :D :D

errr..... apa itu???? hehe :D

You go opposite way lah! Contrary to what many others think. :rolleyes:

my predictions

MS: most likely Lin Dan, as usual. but i want to see Chen Yu winning a tournament. or Bao. they're always standing in the shadow of Lin Dan.

WS: Zhang Ning or Xie, depending of form.

i'd just like to add, you can support players, but predictions are slightly different. predictions are who you think will win. not who you want to win. i think Lin Dan will win. but i like Chen Yu a look better.
Emmm... ALL from CHN... U must be from CHN too...:D

My wish (not prediction):
MS: Rafael Nadal
WS: Venus Williams

Oops! Wrong forum!

MS=SDK(ina)
MD=MK/HS(ina)
WS=ZN(chn)
WD=LN/VM(ina)
XD=FL/VM(ina)
only one for CHINA
from now on all tourney will be dominated by INA.but not for S yet.......

MS=SDK(ina)
MD=MK/HS(ina)
WS=ZN(chn)
WD=LN/VM(ina)
XD=FL/VM(ina)
only one for CHINA
from now on all tourney will be dominated by INA.but not for S yet.......

all ina.. den u must be from ina too... except WS la.. haha

Emmm... ALL from CHN... U must be from CHN too...:D

My wish (not prediction):
MS: Rafael Nadal
WS: Venus Williams

Oops! Wrong forum!

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! not nadal!!!!!!!!!!! I WAN FEDERER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and justine not one of those williams again!!!! HMMPF!!!! :mad:

all ina.. den u must be from ina too... except WS la.. hahai m just looking at the result from recent tournament WC,CM. ina has 2 strong pairs in XD, TH still dengerous one, SONI is showing improvement under HENDRAWAN, LN/VM new world order to break china wall and of course the champs MK/HS.
i wouldn't pick any EROUPEAN. MAS player dream too much

i m just looking at the result from recent tournament WC,CM. ina has 2 strong pairs in XD, TH still dengerous one, SONI is showing improvement under HENDRAWAN, LN/VM new world order to break china wall and of course the champs MK/HS.
i wouldn't pick any EROUPEAN. MAS player dream too much
APPARENTLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ! i would agree with that.... :D

http://img180.imageshack.us/img180/225/tses5.gif

:D :D :D

I can see you are confused on who to choose. May I suggest LCW so you don't have to be worrying choosing the wrong one.:D

Emmm... ALL from CHN... U must be from CHN too...:D

not because i'm from China. but who i think will win. for MD, either Koo/Tan or Fu/Cai. WS:some Chinese pair.

I can see you are confused on who to choose. May I suggest LCW so you don't have to be worrying choosing the wrong one.:D


Taufik-ist might have been confused on who to choose between Taufik and Sony... and yes, you are right in that if he chooses LCW then he will not have to worry about choosing the wrong one, just because he will be wrong right from the start.:eek:

Might as well, bet on Wacha... right, Taufik-ist...LOL

my prediction for sf line up will be
MS : BP, LD, TH, LCW
MD : CY/FHF, KKK/TBH, TG/CW, JJS/LYD
WS : ZN, Wang Chen, ZL, Pi HY
WD : All Chinese SF
XD : Lilyana/Nova, GL/ZB, Vita/Flandy, Yu yang/He HanBin

X Ball is Msian No1 Fan!

X Ball is Msian No1 Fan!

Terima Kasih. Maybe so and would be proud if I am. But I think many people lay claims to that before me.:D

Taufik-ist might have been confused on who to choose between Taufik and Sony... and yes, you are right in that if he chooses LCW then he will not have to worry about choosing the wrong one, just because he will be wrong right from the start.:eek:

Might as well, bet on Wacha... right, Taufik-ist...LOL

Wacha should try the 'satellite' tournaments. And, Taufik-ist would rather be confused on who to pick (whether Sony or Taufik) than to bet on WACHA -- our Taufik-ist is a bright boy even though he has two minds.:D

Hahah.. just choose Wacha. In Malaysia i will choose Macha.

Terima Kasih. Maybe so and would be proud if I am. But I think many people lay claims to that before me.:D

Yeah, like our very disappointed lady from Singapore who last watched her Malaysian boys during the WC. :(

Hahah.. just choose Wacha. In Malaysia i will choose Macha.
Wacha MACHA... The macha should supports wacha ;):p:p

Hahah.. just choose Wacha. In Malaysia i will choose Macha.
Better choose Mocha...that is Joe Mocha from A&W, good ice coffee drink costs C$1.99...I usually have a cup to go when I am driving on the road...hahaha!!LOL!!:D

Terima Kasih. Maybe so and would be proud if I am. But I think many people lay claims to that before me.:D
XBAll...so far, I can count XBall, PJSwift and Makkem as the three top fanatics of MAS esp LCW...hahaha!! LOL!!:D

XBAll...so far, I can count XBall, PJSwift and Makkem as the three top fanatics of MAS esp LCW...hahaha!! LOL!!:D

Top Man. Aren't you keen on Malaysian Badminton yourself ?

Badminton is fast, full of strategies and energy. And because Malaysia is good at it, it naturally attracts people like me who had played the game before.

Top Man. Aren't you keen on Malaysian Badminton yourself ?

Badminton is fast, full of strategies and energy. And because Malaysia is good at it, it naturally attracts people like me who had played the game before.
Yeah...as an X-malaysian, I naturally would cheer and love to see MAS win, no doubt about that...and I like LCW for being a humble person and a fantastic entertaining baddy player, one of 5 players I would pay-to-fly-to-watch, his game with PG-TH-LD-CJ never fail to disappoint and always thrilling...but as baddy fan, I love to see the best player win and shows their baddy magic...my favorite player and one who still awe me with an incredible display of baddy is ZJH and ladies is Susi.

Yeah...as an X-malaysian, I naturally would cheer and love to see MAS win, no doubt about that...and I like LCW for being a humble person and a fantastic entertaining baddy player, one of 5 players I would pay-to-fly-to-watch, his game with PG-TH-LD-CJ never fail to disappoint and always thrilling...but as baddy fan, I love to see the best player win and shows their baddy magic...my favorite player and one who still awe me with an incredible display of baddy is ZJH and ladies is Susi.


There is one player who I think is the greatest : Rudy Hartono. He was hard to play and his cross court smashes were the greatest. Taufik-ist would love to hear this.:D

At his peak, nobody came close to him. He is Taufik + one !

Yeah...as an X-malaysian, I naturally would cheer and love to see MAS win, no doubt about that...and I like LCW for being a humble person and a fantastic entertaining baddy player, one of 5 players I would pay-to-fly-to-watch, his game with PG-TH-LD-CJ never fail to disappoint and always thrilling...but as baddy fan, I love to see the best player win and shows their baddy magic...my favorite player and one who still awe me with an incredible display of baddy is ZJH and ladies is Susi.
Zhau Jian Hua...thats right..Yang yang is one of my favorite players....
Susi is amazing..but she is out of shape now...hehe..saw her in Kelapa gading Mall 2 yrs ago....His brother Rudi Gunawan is here in US ( coach at OCBC)....

Susi is amazing..but she is out of shape now...hehe..saw her in Kelapa gading Mall 2 yrs ago....His brother Rudi Gunawan is here in US ( coach at OCBC)....
..her brother's name is Rudy Gunawan Haditono...He's different than the Rudy Gunawan, who is also a Pastor in a local INA church in L.A., as well as OCBC and soon-to-be ABC's (Arcadia Badminton Club) new coach..;):cool:
See this thread for info, post #6, as informed by Sandy;):
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7034

..her brother's name is Rudy Gunawan Haditono...He's different than the Rudy Gunawan, who is also a Pastor in a local church in L.A., as well as OCBC and soon-to-be ABC's (Arcadia Badminton Club) coach..;):cool:
See this thread for info, post #6, as informed by Sandy;):
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7034
sorry..I am mistaken then.....:D:D

There is one player who I think is the greatest : Rudy Hartono. He was hard to play and his cross court smashes were the greatest. Taufik-ist would love to hear this.:D

At his peak, nobody came close to him. He is Taufik + one !

Mr X Ball. If you'll make a search, we have debated on "Rudy H or Taufik H - who is the greatest?" at great length, with many interesting and heated contributions that must have filled many, many, many forum pages.

Maybe you were not a member then. If you were, you would have been on my side and that of our former Indonesian, now a lawyer in Australia.

But you have to debate with Indra to win him over! ;)

I rest my case. :)

Yeah...as an X-malaysian, I naturally would cheer and love to see MAS win, no doubt about that...and I like LCW for being a humble person and a fantastic entertaining baddy player, one of 5 players I would pay-to-fly-to-watch, his game with PG-TH-LD-CJ never fail to disappoint and always thrilling...but as baddy fan, I love to see the best player win and shows their baddy magic...my favorite player and one who still awe me with an incredible display of baddy is ZJH and ladies is Susi.

Yeah, true.. except his recent match against Sony. It was dissapointing. But i know he play his best. But Sony played much better. Its just not LCW's day that night.

Mr X Ball. If you'll make a search, we have debated on "Rudy H or Taufik H - who is the greatest?" at great length, with many interesting and heated contributions that must have filled many, many, many forum pages.

Maybe you were not a member then. If you were, you would have been on my side and that of our former Indonesian, now a lawyer in Australia.

But you have to debate with Indra to win him over! ;)

I rest my case. :)
..i remember that thread well (i'm sure a few others as well):rolleyes::p...."interesting" and esp. "heated" are understatement words, IMO.. sigh..sigh..:p:(

It was reported that Rudy Hartono wanted to test his skills on two great Indonesian-born Chinese shuttlers that were feared by many, Tang (nicknamed "The Thing") and Hou, who were deported back to China when Communism and many things Chinese were disapproved by the then Indonesian government.

Unfortunately, they never met although despite their older age, Tang and Hou, had both indicated a desire to meet the younger Rudy. At that time there were two opposing world badminton bodies which prevented what would have been a "titantic battle" among the three world's best shuttlers.

So we never did find out who was the greatest player during that era. But should Rudy win, he would have won unfairly in the sense that the two Indonesian-Chinese shuttlers were many years older.

There is one player who I think is the greatest : Rudy Hartono. He was hard to play and his cross court smashes were the greatest. Taufik-ist would love to hear this.:D

At his peak, nobody came close to him. He is Taufik + one !
Based on 8 AE wins, Rudy was the unofficial world champion and the greatest during his era...but that era was w/o team CHN and KOR, and Rudy never face Hou and Tang...Rudy's toughest opponents are Tang Aik Huang, Punch ZJH, Svend Pri. Not his fault that CHN is absent.

Sure ZJH had lost some games and played badly at times...what I was impressed by JZH was the one game he demolished Joko in AE91?? that game left me in awe as I have never seen any player who displayed the complete arsenal of baddy technics, setting up for the kill, the poise and confidence JZH exuded in that game, Joko being a world champion was completely helpless.

As for Susi, same goes with the poise and confidence and the stare she carry when serving...and her ability to k/o the powerful chinese...and a gold and a bronze in OLY...that is history.

If I will to fly overseas and pay to watch a baddy game, I would hope to see all-SF involving any combination of LCW-TH-LD-PG-CJ (no CJ-LD final) as I would get my money and time spent worthwhile. If I download to watch for free, I don't care. That's why wheter LCW lose or win, his playing style and also I am rooting for MAS, I enjoy the way he played...how many times LCW played TH-PG-LD-CJ are boring, each time is a thriller and entertaining.

If I will to fly overseas and pay to watch a baddy game, I would hope to see all-SF involving any combination of LCW-TH-LD-PG-CJ (no CJ-LD final) as I would get my money and time spent worthwhile. If I download to watch for free, I don't care. That's why wheter LCW lose or win, his playing style and also I am rooting for MAS, I enjoy the way he played...how many times LCW played TH-PG-LD-CJ are boring, each time is a thriller and entertaining.

did u watched last year JO?

did u watched last year JO?
I think I did, I have to see my video at home...why??

guys... this is waaaaaayyyyy off topic... :D

Based on 8 AE wins, Rudy was the unofficial world champion and the greatest during his era...but that era was w/o team CHN and KOR, and Rudy never face Hou and Tang...Rudy's toughest opponents are Tang Aik Huang, Punch ZJH, Svend Pri. Not his fault that CHN is absent.




Loh/OneTOughBirdie,

I saw the Thomas Cup 1970 (?) on TV whereby Rudy defeated Tan Aik Huang with ease. Aik Huang's bro (Aik Mong) told us that his brother admitted Rudy to be a very tough player -- everything he played to him was returned so much so he caved him at the end because Rudy was so fit.

Another Chinese player who came from China and was playing and training my neighbours said the THING (TANG) would be unbeatable because of his techniques. But of course, we will never know.

..her brother's name is Rudy Gunawan Haditono...He's different than the Rudy Gunawan, who is also a Pastor in a local INA church in L.A., as well as OCBC and soon-to-be ABC's (Arcadia Badminton Club) new coach..;):cool:
See this thread for info, post #6, as informed by Sandy;):
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7034

Wow! He's a pastor. I wonder what church is he overseeing.

In the men's singles, I think Mr. Przemyslaw will be the champion. :)

WS Champion might be WYH. She already had beaten XXF and ZN (not sure though :|).

Wow! He's a pastor. I wonder what church is he overseeing.

In the men's singles, I think Mr. Przemyslaw will be the champion. :)
Przemyslaw is not playing....

Susi is amazing..but she is out of shape now...hehe..saw her in Kelapa gading Mall 2 yrs ago....

Susi has 3 little kids, of course she can't practice like before... :D However, she could still beat Firdasari 2 years ago and Fransisca Ratnasari [Nana] 1 year ago in a friendly match. Firda and Nana went to Kelapa Gading to spar with Susi. They both lost! :eek: The National Team people said that if Susi was INA's 3rd singles in the 2006 Uber Cup qualification, then INA would still qualify for the final rounds in Japan... :p

Anyway, sort of getting back on topic: I predict that Maria Kristin and Firdasari will go to the quarterfinals... :cool: I think Zhang Ning will win this Japan Open to show the world that she deserves to play one more Olympic Games... ;)

Wow! He's a pastor. I wonder what church is he overseeing.
..a pastor of an Indonesian church, a branch of JKI. His church's name is JKI Hosana in Upland, CA:
http://www.manta.com/comsite5/bin/pddnb_company.pl?pdlanding=1&referid=4490&id=hj2dfb
http://directory.mennoniteusa.org/congregation.asp?CongregationID=671

Wow! He's a pastor. I wonder what church is he overseeing.

In the men's singles, I think Mr. Przemyslaw will be the champion. :)

rudy is an evangelist

Susi has 3 little kids, of course she can't practice like before... :D However, she could still beat Firdasari 2 years ago and Fransisca Ratnasari [Nana] 1 year ago in a friendly match. Firda and Nana went to Kelapa Gading to spar with Susi. They both lost! :eek: The National Team people said that if Susi was INA's 3rd singles in the 2006 Uber Cup qualification, then INA would still qualify for the final rounds in Japan... :p

Anyway, sort of getting back on topic: I predict that Maria Kristin and Firdasari will go to the quarterfinals... :cool: I think Zhang Ning will win this Japan Open to show the world that she deserves to play one more Olympic Games... ;)
I just hope that Firda get promoted to MD as we need one more to withdraw....
Wow...I think Susi should play couple tournaments....will be great...I did not know that she could still beat those gals....thats not good...!!

I know that she turned down a job as being a coach....love Susi..one of favarite beside Tang Jiu Hong....

A couple of exciting match ahead for MS Qualifying Round

1. CKB vs Lee JH - The KOREAN might have the experience, but on the other hand, CKB were no easy meat too.

2. Bobby Mirroy vs Tago Kenichi - Japanese teenage hotshots with homeground advantages should advance to the Main Draw.


3. Tan CS vs Saeki Koichi - never seen how this Japanese play before. But i predict TCS will have a tough match here

4. Kuan BH vs Dabeka Andrew - It will be a disappointing exist for KBH if he failed to clear the first hurdle after so long periods of absents from international competition.

4. Kuan BH vs Dabeka Andrew - It will be a disappointing exist for KBH if he failed to clear the first hurdle after so long periods of absents from international competition.

just wanted to know, what happened to Kuan? i remember seeing him in the 2005 China Masters/Open(can't remember). i thought then, he's got a good attack and nice style, he could be a powerful player. then he dropped off the scopes.

just wanted to know, what happened to Kuan? i remember seeing him in the 2005 China Masters/Open(can't remember). i thought then, he's got a good attack and nice style, he could be a powerful player. then he dropped off the scopes.

I am not so sure.. Heard that he suffer an ankle injury on his leg. He just back into games recently. But I wonder why his name was omitted from KEDAH open. :cool: FYI, Kuan is in the MAS team at DOHA AG'06 too ;)

Predict1:
Men Single: Taufik Hidayat
Women Single: Zhang Ning
Men Doubles: FHF/ CY
Women Doubles: Gao Ling/Shui
Mix Doubles: Liliana Natsir/Nova Widianto

Predict2:
Men Single: Lin Dan
Women Single: XXF
Men Doubles: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
Women Doubles: Liliana Natsir/Vita Marissa
Mix Doubles: Flandi Limpele/Vita Marissa


Men Single : Lee Chong Wei
Women Single : Wong Mew Choo
Men Doubles : KKK-TBH

It is written in the stars.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6440/4561my5.gif
Predict1:
Men Single: Taufik Hidayat
Women Single: Zhang Ning
Men Doubles: FHF/ CY
Women Doubles: Gao Ling/Shui
Mix Doubles: Liliana Natsir/Nova Widianto

Predict2:
Men Single: Lin Dan
Women Single: XXF
Men Doubles: Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
Women Doubles: Liliana Natsir/Vita Marissa
Mix Doubles: Flandi Limpele/Vita Marissa

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/6440/4561my5.gif

2 sets of different winner list by prediction :rolleyes: He too was confused as you :p:p

2 sets of different winner list by prediction :rolleyes: He too was confused as you :p:p

My head says first choice will win but my heart says second choice will win :p :p

My head says first choice will win but my heart says second choice will win :p :p
If both of the 2 choices failed to win. U WILL LOST UR HEAD & HEART :D:D

MD and XD are the most unpredictable.

If things go according to seedings: Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong will meet Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan in the semi-final. But Kido/Hendra have to beat Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae again. The winner should meet either Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun or Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya in the Final.

So, it will be a GREAT ACHIEVEMENT if Kido/Hendra ARE TO WIN!

Possible path to a SS title:
R32: vs Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi
R16: vs Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Thien How or Sudket Prapakamol/Pattapol Ngernsrisuk
QF: vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae or Mohd Fairuzuzian Mohd Tazary/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
SF: vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong or Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
F: vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun or Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya.

I am not so sure.. Heard that he suffer an ankle injury on his leg. He just back into games recently. But I wonder why his name was omitted from KEDAH open. :cool: FYI, Kuan is in the MAS team at DOHA AG'06 too ;)

Kuan Beng Hong just had a surgery a week before the World Championship. Nothing to do with ankle problem.

MD and XD are the most unpredictable.

If things go according to seedings: Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong will meet Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan in the semi-final. But Kido/Hendra have to beat Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae again. The winner should meet either Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun or Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya in the Final.

So, it will be a GREAT ACHIEVEMENT if Kido/Hendra ARE TO WIN!

Possible path to a SS title:
R32: vs Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi
R16: vs Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Thien How or Sudket Prapakamol/Pattapol Ngernsrisuk
QF: vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae or Mohd Fairuzuzian Mohd Tazary/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
SF: vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong or Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
F: vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun or Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya.

I would conclude this is the toughest path for the current World MD Champion !

Kuan Beng Hong just had a surgery a week before the World Championship. Nothing to do with ankle problem.

Did he IN for JO ?

I would conclude this is the toughest path for the current World MD Champion !

Tough but not impossible. Since they have already won the World Championship, it's time for them to silence their critics and prove that they CAN BEAT BOTH Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun AND Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong !! I would love it if they can do it next week :rolleyes:

As for the XD World Champion, Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir, their path to winning their first SS title is also without a doubt a tough one :cool:
R32: vs Xu Chen/Zhao Tingting
R16: vs Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Yu Mi
QF: vs Sudket Prapakamol/Saralee Thoungthongkam
SF: vs Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa or Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms or Han Sang Hoon/Lee Hyo Jung
F: vs Zheng Bo/Gao Ling or Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen or Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg or He Hanbin/Yu Yang

As for Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa, since they are in the same half as Nova/Butet, I expect them to last till at least the QF.
R32: vs Jens Eriksen/Helle Nielsen
R16: vs Tsai Chia-Hsin/Chien Yu-Chin or Howard Bach/Eva Lee
QF: vs Nathan Roberson/Gail Emms or Han Sang Hoon/Lee Hyo Jung

MS goes to Lin eDan

MS goes to Lin eDan

Whois Lin eDan ? New rising star from China :confused::rolleyes::p:D:D

Whois Lin eDan ? New rising star from China :confused::rolleyes::p:D:D

Lin eDan = Lin Dan :D

Lin eDan = Lin Dan :D
We shall expecting another CHN star which is Lin Ji DAN :D:D

Whois Lin eDan ? New rising star from China :confused::rolleyes::p:D:D

edan means 'crazy' in indonesian :D :D

We shall expecting another CHN star which is Lin Ji DAN :D:D

HA..hahaah
Ji Dan = Egg
Lin =........
In bangka Hakka "Lin" is a dirty word:p

Lin Ji Dan = Zero Chicken Eggs
(Dont count the chicken before its hatch) ;)

Please don't disrespect the players please.

In Malaysia I will CHOOOOSEEE.......Namewee!!!~~~~:D

Lin Ji Dan = Zero Chicken Eggs
(Dont count the chicken before its hatch) ;)
zero chicken? LD has enough chicken to start a chicken farm.

So, it will be a GREAT ACHIEVEMENT if Kido/Hendra ARE TO WIN!

Possible path to a SS title:
R32: vs Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi
R16: vs Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Thien How or Sudket Prapakamol/Pattapol Ngernsrisuk
QF: vs Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae or Mohd Fairuzuzian Mohd Tazary/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif
SF: vs Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong or Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
F: vs Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun or Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya.
I would conclude this is the toughest path for the current World MD Champion !
..i think their path will depend on their preparation prior to this Japan Open. If they've been training and sparring real hard, just as they did prior to the WC, i think they should maintain their momentum..If not, then it will be tough..:p
But, yes, it will be mighty hard, nonetheless, esp. if they are to meet KKK & TBH in the Semis:p..And if they were to win that match, then in most likelihood they'll face FHF & CY in the Finals..:p
Btw, badMania, do you by any chance have their Head to Head records against their all those opponents??..:confused:;)

HA..hahaah
Ji Dan = Egg
Lin =........
In bangka Hakka "Lin" is a dirty word:p

ha..ha you just revealed yourself... you are from bangka.... :D:D
anyway i like martabak and mie bangka :p

HA..hahaah
Ji Dan = Egg
Lin =........
In bangka Hakka "Lin" is a dirty word:p
Haiya..Tommy.....I know Hakka too....thats dirty word..:p

Btw, badMania, do you by any chance have their Head to Head records against their all those opponents??..:confused:;)

They have won both their matches against their team-mate Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi this year (official record is 3-0). They beat Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Thien How in the recent China Masters (1-0), while their only loss to Sudket Prapakamol/Pattapol Ngensrisuk was in 2004. The offical record is 1-1, but I think Kido/Hendra did beat the Thai pair several times in 2005 and 2006.

Kido/Hendra's record against Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae is 3-1 (sole defeat coming at the Korea Open 2007); while against Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazary/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif is 1-0.

The going gets tougher as it enters the SF. The toughest match will undoubtedly be against Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong, having lost 4 times to them (0-4), 2 of them official records while another two was during the Asian Games individual event and a friendly pre-Sudirman Cup matchup against Team Malaysia.

As for Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, it's an even record at 4-4. The official is 4-3, with 1 more loss for Kido/Hendra at the 2005 SEA GAMES Team event.

As for records against Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, it's 3-5. Theofficial record is 2-3, but Kido/Hendra beat Fu/Cai once at the Asian Games 2006 Team event, while Fu/Cai also beat them in the earlier matchup in Doha and one more time at the Invitational World Cup in Yiyang, which ironically was eventually won by Kido/Hendra :cool:

Team Malaysia just arrived. Will not be staying at the Official Hotel.. no rooms available. :(

wah! no rooms available at the official hotel.... BTW, ants u at japan ah?

They have won both their matches against their team-mate Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi this year (official record is 3-0). They beat Chan Chong Ming/Hoon Thien How in the recent China Masters (1-0), while their only loss to Sudket Prapakamol/Pattapol Ngensrisuk was in 2004. The offical record is 1-1, but I think Kido/Hendra did beat the Thai pair several times in 2005 and 2006.

Kido/Hendra's record against Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae is 3-1 (sole defeat coming at the Korea Open 2007); while against Mohd Fairuzizuan Mohd Tazary/Mohd Zakry Abdul Latif is 1-0.

The going gets tougher as it enters the SF. The toughest match will undoubtedly be against Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong, having lost 4 times to them (0-4), 2 of them official records while another two was during the Asian Games individual event and a friendly pre-Sudirman Cup matchup against Team Malaysia.

As for Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah, it's an even record at 4-4. The official is 4-3, with 1 more loss for Kido/Hendra at the 2005 SEA GAMES Team event.

As for records against Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun, it's 3-5. Theofficial record is 2-3, but Kido/Hendra beat Fu/Cai once at the Asian Games 2006 Team event, while Fu/Cai also beat them in the earlier matchup in Doha and one more time at the Invitational World Cup in Yiyang, which ironically was eventually won by Kido/Hendra :cool:
..thanks for the info, almost down to the minute details; or did you do a research of their records??:cool:...nevertheless, you are indeed a Markis Kido & Hendra Hendrawan follower/fan, maybe even biggest supporter..;):cool:

MK /HS most fear pair will be KKK/TBH :rolleyes:
If they past the MAS pair, should be all clear for them to win the second title in a row. :cool:

MK /HS most fear pair will be KKK/TBH :rolleyes:
If they past the MAS pair, should be all clear for them to win the second title in a row. :cool:
no doubt about tat.... :D

..thanks for the info, almost down to the minute details; or did you do a research of their records??:cool:...nevertheless, you are indeed a Markis Kido & Hendra Hendrawan follower/fan, maybe even biggest supporter..;):cool:

I did keep track of Kido/Hendra's record since 2005 :p

I did keep track of Kido/Hendra's record since 2005 :p
so.. were der more ups than downs or downs than ups...???? :confused::confused:
:D

I did keep track of Kido/Hendra's record since 2005 :p

badmania is unofficially ina talent scout :D

This is a great toughening opportunity for M/K. Better to have tough draws now for a good build up to OG08. Sustained survival will mean fearlessness in OG08.
Worst exposure is to have easy draws even if it leads to title.

badmania is unofficially ina talent scout :D
he might as well go help out in INA national team.. hehe :D

Last year Japan Open MS semifinal round was so exciting showdown, LD vs PG and LCW vs TH. Then LD met TH in finale when TH gave-up easily in third game (what an anti-climax!). How about this year?! Nobody can predict it exactly, who knows Boonsak,Sony or another underdog will shine here.

If LD grab the title once again, he will create hat-trick in this tourney. INA's Ardy B. Wiranata almost did it, 1991-1992 and 1994 (unfortunately he failed in 1993 when Haryanto Arbi won it).

so.. were der more ups than downs or downs than ups...???? :confused::confused:
:D

Well, considering that late 2004 was the year they were first exposed to higher ranked tourneys and they did not enter All-England only until last year, it is definitely MORE UPS THAN DOWNS!

3 titles in 2005 (4* ABC, 6* INA Open, SEA Games Indiv Event)
3 titles in 2006 (6* HKG and China Opens+the invitational World Cup)
1 title in 2007 (the World Championships)

Plus a string of silvers and bronzes in the past 3-4 years.

This is a great toughening opportunity for M/K. Better to have tough draws now for a good build up to OG08. Sustained survival will mean fearlessness in OG08.
Worst exposure is to have easy draws even if it leads to title.

Certainly, getting the WC is a start and should relieve them of some pressure to get a title this year. Winning the tough matches will undoubtedly bolster their confidence and mean that they fear NO ONE next year.

not because i'm from China. but who i think will win. for MD, either Koo/Tan or Fu/Cai.




Hey Shifty,

Remember that KKK/TBH created BIG NEWS@Japan Open 2006, where they first started. :)

Here is an article from NST, Malaysia...

============ start article ============

Badminton: Top pair back where it all started (http://www.nst.com.my/Current_News/NST/Section/index_html?mysec=Sport)

By : K.M. Boopathy (boopathy@nst.com.my)
10-September-2007

http://www.nst.com.my/Monday/Sport/20070910082939/insidepix1
Koo Kien Keat (front) and Tan Boon Heong.

THE badminton fraternity first witnessed the potential of Koo Kien Keat-Tan Boon Heong as world beaters in last year’s Japan Open and the Malaysian pair, presently struggling, can get their act together again and bounce back at the same tournament which begins today in the Tokyo Metropolitan Gymnasium.

Last year’s Japan Open was a trial event for Kien Keat-Boon Heong before national doubles coach Rexy Mainaky decided to pair them off permanently and the badminton world soon took notice of their immense talent.

Unseeded last year, the pair scalped several big names but eventually fell to the Indonesian-American combination of Candra Wijaya-Tony Gunawan in the final.

They took the international scene by storm after that loss.

Kien Keat-Boon Hong went on to win the Doha Asian Games gold in December and chalked up regular big wins after that.

They went on to clinch the Malaysia Open, All England and the Swiss Open before things went awry.

Kien Keat, 22, and Boon Heong, 20, failed to live up to their new-found supremacy when complacency set in. Their performances started to drop and their breathtaking attacking style lost its sting.

There was a temporary upswing when Kien Keat-Boon Heong won the Philippines in July but this was followed by a disasterous outing in the World Championships at home last month where they were sent packing by unheralded Japanese pair Shuichi Sakamoto-Shintaro Ikeda in the quarter-finals.

Their road to redemption has to start early as the Beijing Olympics is just 11 months away and Kien Keat-Boon Heong should make a strong impact in Japan.

The Kedah Open which ended in Alor Star on Saturday, should have been a good tune-up for Kien Keat-Boon Heong before the tougher battle in Tokyo.

They struggled in the first two rounds in Kedah, including a hard-earned three-game victory over national teammates Gan Teik Chai-Lin Woon Fui in the last eight, before securing a comprehensive two-game victory over in-form veterans Choong Tan Fook-Lee Wan Wah in the final.

In Japan, Kien Keat-Boon Heong begin their quest against compatriots Tan Bin Shen-Ong Soon Hock before an expected second round clash against Indonesians Luluk Hadiyanto-Alven Yulianto.

If the Malaysian pair advance, the crunch match is expected to be the encounter against compatriots Tan Fook-Wan Wah in the last eight, the winners of which will come up against newly crowned world champions Markis Kido-Hendra Setiawan of Indonesia in the semi-finals, and a possible final showdown against top seeds Fu Haifeng-Cai Yun of China.

Winning the Japan Open will be small consolation for their World Championships disappointment but what is important is their urgency to regain the advantage they enjoyed just five months ago.

This will be important in their quest to win Malaysia’s first Olympics gold in Beijing next year.

Lee Chong Wei, who has proved again that he is peerless on the local scene by winning the Kedah Open, needs a good run in Japan to regain the public’s faith in him after his poor performance in the World Championships.

Chong Wei will continue where he left off in the Kedah Open as he will meet compatriot Hafiz Hashim, whom he beat in the final, for the second time in three days when they meet again in the first round of the Japan Open.

Chong Wei, if his easy straight-games win in Alor Star is anything to go by, should triumph again to set up a second round meeting with Sony Dwi Kuncoro of Indonesia who dumped the Malaysian at the same stage of the World Championships.

Anything beyond the semi-finals, where he is tipped to face two-time world champion Lin Dan of China, may not be enough to win back the faith of the Malaysian fans.

============ end article ============

:):):)

Well, considering that late 2004 was the year they were first exposed to higher ranked tourneys and they did not enter All-England only until last year, it is definitely MORE UPS THAN DOWNS!

3 titles in 2005 (4* ABC, 6* INA Open, SEA Games Indiv Event)
3 titles in 2006 (6* HKG and China Opens+the invitational World Cup)
1 title in 2007 (the World Championships)

Plus a string of silvers and bronzes in the past 3-4 years.
not tat bad... but if comparing wit kkk/tbh...

2006:
Japan Open (1st Runner-up)
Asian Games (Individual Event Winner)

2007:
Malaysian Open SS (Winner)
Korean Open SS (Winner)
All England SS (Winner)
Swiss Open SS (Winner)
BAC (1st Runner-up)
Singaporean Open SS (1st KO)
Indonesian Open SS (Semi-Finalist)
Phillipines Open GP (Winner)
16th WORLD CHAMPIONSHIP (Quarter-Finalist)

lots of ups and downs...... :D

wonder bout JO then...

i would predict... KKK/TBH...

not cuz im a Malaysian, but based on their performance in Kedah Open.. although its not international event, they shown that they can beat CTF/LWW who beat CY/FHF in WC....

if everything goes by right, they should clinch the crown in Japan this week...

i would predict... KKK/TBH...

not cuz im a Malaysian, but based on their performance in Kedah Open.. although its not international event, they shown that they can beat CTF/LWW who beat CY/FHF in WC....

if everything goes by right, they should clinch the crown in Japan this week...

I hope they can reminiscense their performance last year. Take that end in mind into this year's tournament. Of course hope they can win too.

Team manage to check in Official Hotel at-last.

I hope they can reminiscense their performance last year. Take that end in mind into this year's tournament. Of course hope they can win too.

Team manage to check in Official Hotel at-last.
Thats nice hotel, I stayed there 4 yrs ago..but their Tempura bar at hotel was way expensive........I think the stadium just across the street....

Remember that KKK/TBH created BIG NEWS@Japan Open 2006, where they first started.

:):):)
Thanks for the article :) I still think that KKK/TBH stunned the world in last year JO is the biggest new of last year international badminton arena !

It will be tough for them to defend their titles this year. Take away the nationality patriotism . Many will support them as their games was full of enthusiasm & great entertainment to follow. ;)

IMO, KKK/TBH have the easiest path among all the top guns before the semis.
I am expecting a great match in the semis either between them with the current MD World Champ or the exciting upcoming KOREAN pair of JJS/LYD.

Thanks for the article :) I still think that KKK/TBH stunned the world in last year JO is the biggest new of last year international badminton arena !

It will be tough for them to defend their titles this year. Take away the nationality patriotism . Many will support them as their games was full of enthusiasm & great entertainment to follow. ;)

Defend their title :eek:? I think u are getting too enthusiastic. They DID NOT EVEN WIN the Japan Open 2006 :cool:

Defend their title :eek:? I think u are getting too enthusiastic. They DID NOT EVEN WIN the Japan Open 2006 :cool:
Opps.. I am wrong :(

It will be tough for them to defend their titles this year.






Defend their title :eek:? I think u are getting too enthusiastic. They DID NOT EVEN WIN the Japan Open 2006 :cool:




Hey badMania,

Yes, we can't help but laugh at samuel882's enthusiasm for KKK/TBH. :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc

Hey badMania,

Yes, we can't help but laugh at samuel882's enthusiasm for KKK/TBH. :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc

Yeah, Sam has to defend himself now, hopefully not many more to come! :p

I hope they can reminiscense their performance last year. Take that end in mind into this year's tournament. Of course hope they can win too.

Team manage to check in Official Hotel at-last.
Maybe tit for tat just to scare BAM. Some teams were left stranded in their accm during WC. DEN promised to give MAS the same medicine for DO07?

the JAPAN OPEN will begin 2moro so i am so excited..

Maybe tit for tat just to scare BAM. Some teams were left stranded in their accm during WC. DEN promised to give MAS the same medicine for DO07?
I don't know how to describe it rightly in English terms - "YUeN YUeN XIONG POU HOR SHI LIu" <Cantonese> ;)

Certainly, getting the WC is a start and should relieve them of some pressure to get a title this year. Winning the tough matches will undoubtedly bolster their confidence and mean that they fear NO ONE next year.
..in the same way and at the same time, Markis' & Hendra's WC's title will put a bit more pressure on them as all eyes, once again, will be on them and see if they'll be able to keep on improving and perform consistently..Prior to the WC, the pressure wasn't there for them; now, they have somekind of a "bull's eye" on their backs, just like when KKK & TBH and esp. FHF & CY were, prior to the WC..;):cool:

..in the same way and at the same time, Markis' & Hendra's WC's title will put a bit more pressure on them as all eyes, once again, will be on them and see if they'll be able to keep on improving and perform consistently..Prior to the WC, the pressure wasn't there for them; now, they have somekind of a "bull's eye" on their backs, just like when KKK & TBH and esp. FHF & CY were, prior to the WC..;):cool:

It was truth when Feng Yun & KKK/TBH winning few titles in a row then most of the fans predict the WC'07 will between both grisp.
This time the Pressure is definitely on MK/HS as any pair will have the determination to beat them !It will be lesser burden for the CHN & MAS pair now onwards..

the JAPAN OPEN will begin 2moro so i am so excited..me too, JP open is also high in my book since top ranking players participate in this event (neutral ground so to speak).

one more note, i hope taufik refrain from hitting shuttles to the net, like last year... LOLOLOL

Hey badMania,

Yes, we can't help but laugh at samuel882's enthusiasm for KKK/TBH. :):):)

Cheers... chris@ccc
he just joined xball's club hahaha

he just joined xball's club hahaha

Welcome aboard the team that makes the difference in fan support.:D We make the difference in assuring our players are supported whole-somely and not be degraded by another fan club. Although we may look like we go overboard sometimes, we do not overstep when it matters.:)

Welcome aboard the team that makes the difference in fan support.:D We make the difference in assuring our players are supported whole-somely and not be degraded by another fan club. Although we may look like we go overboard sometimes, we do not overstep when it matters.:)
indeed, this makes this forum more interesting... :D

however overall professionalism is still maintain while bashing starts.... :D :D :D

indeed, this makes this forum more interesting... :D

however overall professionalism is still maintain while bashing starts.... :D :D :D


U are learning fast!

indeed, this makes this forum more interesting... :D

however overall professionalism is still maintain while bashing starts.... :D :D :D

"Professionalism and BASHING" :confused:
Oh, maybe professional bashing you mean. :rolleyes:
Well the ball is round, just ask XBall. It will be kicked around in all directions when play starts. :D

"Professionalism and BASHING" :confused:
Oh, maybe professional bashing you mean. :rolleyes:
Well the ball is round, just ask XBall. It will be kicked around in all directions when play starts. :D

You are learning fast too!:D

MS: LEE CHONG WEI, TH or lin dan
WS: zhang ning or wong MEW CHOO
MD: chai yun/fu haifeng or kkk/tbh
MXD: flandy/marissa or nova/lilyana
WD: Gao ling/HS

status quo (lindan,TH,LCW) will still rule ms :)

MS : LIN DAN! =]
WS : Xie XingFang or Zhang Ning
MD : Cai yun/fu haifeng , KKK/TBH or LYD/JJS!
WD : zhang jiewen/Yang wei!
XD : Gao Ling/zheng bo.

dat's jus my prediction! hope they will do well!

MS : LIN DAN! =]
WS : Xie XingFang or Zhang Ning
MD : Cai yun/fu haifeng , KKK/TBH or LYD/JJS!
WD : zhang yawen/Yang wei!
XD : Gao Ling/zheng bo.

dat's jus my prediction! hope they will do well!
no ina player at all :o... why..why... ok it's only prediction ..he..he i hope it's like wc 2007.. ina can do it

status quo (lindan,TH,LCW) will still rule ms :)

Somehow you still rule out Sony in preference for your namesake! :mad:

Somehow you still rule out Sony in preference for your namesake! :mad:

OMG i forgot sony :o... i have put sony in my first priority before... stupid me i forgotten him already :o

i hope he will win JO 2007 :D .. i'm getting bored with status quo in ms :D :D

status quo (lindan,TH,LCW) will still rule ms :)

Here you have the 4 heavenly king -
1. LD
2. TH
3. LCW
4. PG
;):p:D

Here you have the 4 heavenly king -
1. LD
2. TH
3. LCW
4. PG
;):p:D

Except for LD, the rest have been brought down to earth time and again! :D
But LD's turn will also come. It is a matter of time. Sony is waiting to pounce on the unwary! :)

OMG i forgot sony :o... i have put sony in my first priority before... stupid me i forgotten him already :o

i hope he will win JO 2007 :D .. i'm getting bored with status quo in ms :D :D


Taufik-ist, working too hard, eh ? So much so you forgot a great player ? Time to slow down on the nightclubbing.:D

Except for LD, the rest have been brought down to earth time and again! :D
But LD's turn will also come. It is a matter of time. Sony is waiting to pounce on the unwary! :)

Sony is waiting to pounce on the unwary ? What about LCW waiting to square off with Sony ? :D

ha..ha you just revealed yourself... you are from bangka.... :D:D
anyway i like martabak and mie bangka :p

You forgot tu put "kerupuk" this is the famous one from bangka:)

Haiya..Tommy.....I know Hakka too....thats dirty word..:p
Sssstttt... dont tell it to anyone it is our secret:p

Lin Dan started his top-form period last year from May until October, in which he won all his matches during that period.

This year, he began his top-form period since China Masters in July, so if last year is any indication of things to come, expect him to dominate and win every tournament until December of this year... plus if this becomes reality this year, expect him to do the same next year, and take the Olympic gold as well.

I will put my login name on the line once again on Lin Dan winning Mens singles in Olympic 2008!!!:cool:

Lin Dan started his top-form period last year from May until October, in which he won all his matches during that period.

This year, he began his top-form period since China Masters in July, so if last year is any indication of things to come, expect him to dominate and win every tournament until December of this year... plus if this becomes reality this year, expect him to do the same next year, and take the Olympic gold as well.

I will put my login name on the line once again on Lin Dan winning Mens singles in Olympic 2008!!!:cool:

he..he cmon lindan :D :p

Lin Dan started his top-form period last year from May until October, in which he won all his matches during that period.

This year, he began his top-form period since China Masters in July, so if last year is any indication of things to come, expect him to dominate and win every tournament until December of this year... plus if this becomes reality this year, expect him to do the same next year, and take the Olympic gold as well.

I will put my login name on the line once again on Lin Dan winning Mens singles in Olympic 2008!!!:cool:
Nice pattern traced out. But if there's a time lag of two months for each following year, then his 2008 top form period will start from Sep. ie after OG08. Keep your fingers crossed.

what an upset! sony lost to ronald susilo of singapore! :|

sadly theres no live telecast for the JO 2007 until the semis T_T
there are so many exciting matches, like chen hong vs taufik, bao chunlai vs ponsana, mohd zakry abdul latif and mohd fairuzizuan mohd tazari vs jung jae sung and lee yong dae.........

no ina player at all :o... why..why... ok it's only prediction ..he..he i hope it's like wc 2007.. ina can do it

hahahs!! =] big supports of China Team here! don really fancy indo players.. hope it's like WC 06! hahaha.. 4/5 wins for china.. =] :D

My prediction for MS winner is Boonsak or Ronald Susilo :eek:

Both of my picks are still very much 'alive' after a scare from BaoCL and Sony... Lets see if my pick will win... :p

Both of my picks are still very much 'alive' after a scare from BaoCL and Sony... Lets see if my pick will win... :p

Are you Thai or Singaporean? If so it doesn't say so in your profile. XBall will man handle you for not being patriotic as he is. Only LCW should be up there! hahaha...:rolleyes:

Are you Thai or Singaporean? If so it doesn't say so in your profile. XBall will man handle you for not being patriotic as he is. Only LCW should be up there! hahaha...:rolleyes:

haha... my love for this game has no boundaries... LCW? he will succumb to pressure again... then blame the chief coach or whoever... alas, wats new? anyway, i will root for BOONSAK or SUSILO... :eek::D

haha... my love for this game has no boundaries... LCW? he will succumb to pressure again... then blame the chief coach or whoever... alas, wats new? anyway, i will root for BOONSAK or SUSILO... :eek::D

Dear Jimbo,

I hope that LCW will able to defeat Ronald Susilo tomorrow. Although I am Singaporean, I will stand tall behind my LCW. M'sia Boleh! LCW make M'sian proud of u.

From,
Ayu

Dear Jimbo,

I hope that LCW will able to defeat Ronald Susilo tomorrow. Although I am Singaporean, I will stand tall behind my LCW. M'sia Boleh! LCW make M'sian proud of u.

From,
Ayu

Oppsss... LCW vs Susilo??? Oh no... One is my country man and another one is my "current" country man. Hard to choose, let the best man wins, OK?

Msia Boleh... SG boleh... :p:D:p

Oppsss... LCW vs Susilo??? Oh no... One is my country man and another one is my "current" country man. Hard to choose, let the best man wins, OK?

Msia Boleh... SG boleh... :p:D:p

Funny thing - you support RS and Ayu supports LCW, just terbalek! Malaysian supports Singaporean and Singaporean supports Malaysian. Good for maintaining friendly neighbourliness! :)

Dear Jimbo,

I hope that LCW will able to defeat Ronald Susilo tomorrow. Although I am Singaporean, I will stand tall behind my LCW. M'sia Boleh! LCW make M'sian proud of u.

From,
Ayu

Many Malaysian should thanks Singaporean as their top MS players clear the path for LCW in the R16 :D:D

HAhah... thats funny. Hope Ronald will play well tomorrow.

Funny thing - you support RS and Ayu supports LCW, just terbalek! Malaysian supports Singaporean and Singaporean supports Malaysian. Good for maintaining friendly neighbourliness! :)

True... quite weird... But I suppose LCW has a little edge over Susilo. oh wait, he just beat Sony this morning and this Sony thrashed LCW on his home turf... wat can I say??? :p

This time LCW will win straight set n Susilo got below 10 point hehe

Many Malaysian should thanks Singaporean as their top MS players clear the path for LCW in the R16 :D:D

Well said, but the man who cleared the path himself becomes a big stumbling block! :cool:

This time LCW will win straight set n Susilo got below 10 point hehe


Below 10 is a little ridiculous. Ronald is not an easy meat for LCW to eat.

its too early to predict, ronald susilo beat lee chong wei at the most recent tournament, swiss open 7 months ago :D

haha... my love for this game has no boundaries... LCW? he will succumb to pressure again... then blame the chief coach or whoever... alas, wats new? anyway, i will root for BOONSAK or SUSILO... :eek::D

He had learned his lesson well. I dont think he will repeat it again.

What time is the match start between LCW vs RS ??

its game point for susilo! opps, susilo took down the first set 21-19. ^^

:D 2 day kkk n tbh is wit alwen yulianto n luluk hadiyanto hope they will win.Ld is ony wit roslin sure not having problem

Both of my picks are still very much 'alive' after a scare from BaoCL and Sony... Lets see if my pick will win... :p

Both my picks lost tamely to LCW and Simon :crying::crying::eek::eek: What happened to Boonsak??? He played well to beat Bao and lost to Simon??? :eek::eek::(:(

Oppsss... LCW vs Susilo??? Oh no... One is my country man and another one is my "current" country man. Hard to choose, let the best man wins, OK?

Msia Boleh... SG boleh... :p:D:p

Dear Jimbo,

LCW wins against Ronald Susilo. Well done, LCW!

From,
Ayu

Many Malaysian should thanks Singaporean as their top MS players clear the path for LCW in the R16 :D:D
LCW has it in him to win without any Singaporean or other help. He's often done it solo.

Lin Dan I love you......U will win...I will pray for you
Love You...mwah.....mwah....

Lin Dan I love you......U will win...I will pray for you
Love You...mwah.....mwah....

Hey ratu buaya,you are so noisy
Klo ngomong jgn pake toa,berisik tau...Pusing pala gue,....Go back to your real world,Tman Lawang:p

Xball will be happy that LcW won..

Xball will be happy that LcW won..


He has done well but it will be great if he does not stop here.

Go...nova....go...natsir..

With most of the top seeds gone in MD, it will be criminal if Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan do not go on to win their first SS title here in Japan :cool:

Very, very strange......

In the last 8 of the Mens Singles, the top half of the draw is still having all its 4 seeded players, namely Seed #1, 4, 5 and 6.

However, none of the seeded players in the bottom half of the draw, namely Seed #2, 3, 7 and 8, could continue.

:):):)

With most of the top seeds gone in MD, it will be criminal if Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan do not go on to win their first SS title here in Japan :cool:
..give back their WC Gold Medal if they fail to win their 1st SS this yr..:p

..give back their WC Gold Medal if they fail to win their 1st SS this yr..:p

Take it one match at a time...beginning with today's match against the Jap, then the SF against either Luluk/Alvent or Hendri/Hendra and then the Final against either Tony/Candra or Paaske/Rasmussen or Lee/Hwang.

They HAVE BEATEN all these pairs this year, so, no excuses if they cannot win this Sunday :cool:

Take it one match at a time...beginning with today's match against the Jap, then the SF against either Luluk/Alvent or Hendri/Hendra and then the Final against either Tony/Candra or Paaske/Rasmussen or Lee/Hwang.

They HAVE BEATEN all these pairs this year, so, no excuses if they cannot win this Sunday :cool:

U have think too far. Do NOT discharge the POWER of the JAP :eek:

candra/tony for the MD title!!! kido/setiawan cant defeat them in the final/....haha... IMO tho