what a performance by team malaysia..
they send 2 qualifier but 2 of them didn't qualify for the main draw..:o
there are 1 pair of XD & 2 pair of WD players including our WPT/CEH but they can't pass 1st round..:(
6 MD pair is sent & 4 out of 6 crush in 1st round while other 2 get upset by opponent in 2nd round..:mad:
2 representative in WS while 1 lost in 1st round & another stop at 2nd round..
5 MS players was sent & onli 1 can pass through 2nd round..:crying:
i can't imagine this is malaysia performances...
anyone knw wat's wrong with them??? :confused:

Last thing MAS needs is local tournament for tune-up before international tournament!
Maybe they should schedule local tournaments AFTER international tournaments.
The way to generate badminton glitter among Malaysians is for MAS to win internationally, not perform locally.After all ,international tournaments can reach most Malaysians via TV but not local tournaments.

Rexy will hand in his resignation letter very, very soon...
Rexy is a world class couch, shouldnt couch such low class mentality MAS players...

Long live the Jaguh Kampungs!!!!!

Its dissapointing to see how our players fared in this tourney. I really have no comments this time.

surprised to see that KKK/TBH and CTF/LWW are both out.

WMC is out also but i don't think many of us will think she can get pass XXF again.

but this JO is full of surprises in general. China isn't doing exactly well , Fu/Cai are out, and so is XZB/ZYW as well as Chen Yu losing to Chan Yan Kit of HKG.

I was quite shock to see the results today.

KKK and TBH debuted here back last year and they have been the runners up for this event and they crash out so early.

sighh...

as usual, LCW is left to fly the flag on his own.

WMC met her expectations, beating XXF is always hard.

WD fell a bit short to a host pair, but not totally unexpected.

XD, well, not much was expected there anyway, more for experience really.

MD was, by far and large, utterly dissapointing. what with all the talk of using the JO to make up for the dissapointment in the WC, it's disturbing how fall short they fell. are we expecting too much of them??

I really don't know what to say...

Lee Chong Wei Last man standing.... AGAIN ! and this time, so early on.:crying:

malaysia did really bad in this Japan Open.. not even d semi's only 1 man left standing..

lee chong wei is the man!!! hope that he can keep fight untill the end... LEE CHONG WEI JIA YOU!!!

Gee, Darien, you're sick. You come in like a vulture, circling over the MAS camp. If Rexy were to know of your post, he won't be flattered. He will stand by his boys knowing that they have trained very, very, very hard to no avail. Sometimes the rewards of hard work do not come immediately, esp. during a transition. cai/fu floundered for some 5 tournaments before they got back on their feet again. These are testing times and as long as MAS MDs continue to put in the hard work and have the belief and faith in themselves, they will come up again. They don't deserve any name calling.

The shuttle cock in JO is heavy and slow, favorable to slow and defensive players.

as usual, singapore doubles wins choong tan fook/lee wan wah

singapore import other country`s player mah...

(!_ _).................

The shuttle cock in JO is heavy and slow, favorable to slow and defensive players.

this one is cute

singapore import other country`s player mah...


Don't be sore loser ... Singapore imports are made in Singapore !!! Their country didn't make them to be champions. They didn't even represent their countries in senior tournaments.

To lose all the doubles is a sad thing and it is beginning to point to very inconsistent players.

Too much workload - perhaps.
Too many games - perhaps.
Too much scoldings from coach - perhaps.
Too much playing each other (hence lowering their own standards) - perhaps

Too many reasons for failure - DEFINITELY !


Good thing LCW is still in. For all Malaysian fans, this is the only saviour to an otherwise humiliating defeat.

Really a big team especially from the MD side.. But, only left 1 (LCW).. I am expecting more surprise from the coaches side on BAM.. Maybe Rexy will resign again.. or how.. i m not sure.. Really a big disappointment again after the poor shown up during WC...

Next time no need to send such a big squad. Just the best 3 or 4 and then some youngsters to gain experience.

Next time no need to send such a big squad. Just the best 3 or 4 and then some youngsters to gain experience.

I don't think it's anybody's fault. In any sport there are upsets. I saw them play today and they tried everything to win. It was just unfortunate that all of them lost today except LCW. There were other upsets in other teams, Fu/Cai tandem is also a victim.
Roslin Hashim almost got Lin Dan, Gao Ling and Hwang Shui struggled hard before winning.
All the Malaysian players tried very hard. Let's not blame anyone. In any sport, there are winners and losers. It's all part of the game.

The shuttle cock in JO is heavy and slow, favorable to slow and defensive players.

That is always the problem. And it could make the match last longer.

I don't think it's anybody's fault. In any sport there are upsets. I saw them play today and they tried everything to win. It was just unfortunate that all of them lost today except LCW. There were other upsets in other teams, Fu/Cai tandem is also a victim.
Roslin Hashim almost got Lin Dan, Gao Ling and Hwang Shui struggled hard before winning.
All the Malaysian players tried very hard. Let's not blame anyone. In any sport, there are winners and losers. It's all part of the game.
I am not so sure "RH almost got LD'. LD tends to play easy in the early rounds and go 3-setter with unseeded players. How LD played RH would indicate whether he was playing easy or indeed pushed hard by RH extending to 3 sets. The 3rd game was a one-sided affair, may indicate that even though the game went 3-set, LD was not threatened at all.

i can't imagine this is malaysia performances...
anyone knw wat's wrong with them??? :confused:
..maybe, too much shopping distraction & temptation for the players??..:confused::p;)
Good thing LCW is still in. For all Malaysian fans, this is the only saviour to an otherwise humiliating defeat.
..well, hopefully all the MAS BCers will stick around & populate BC when their players are not playing, now that 90% of their players competing are out..If LCW should falter before SF or Finals (gud forbids, X Ball;)), this forum could turn preeetty quiet, come this weekend..:rolleyes::p

I think a lot of pressure and confusion arose after the 2007 World Championship debacle on the MAS home soil... Unnecessary added pressure on [or by] the top management makes the environment less fun to be in and inhibits inspiration and creativity...

..well, hopefully all the MAS BCers will stick around & populate BC when their players are not playing, now that 90% of their players competing are out..If LCW should falter before SF or Finals (gud forbids, X Ball;)), this forum could turn preeetty quiet, come this weekend..:rolleyes::p

I don't mind making some noises here after LCW gets eliminated in the quarter final, and most of the Malaysian fans are gone for this weekend... if that makes you happy.:p

The only way, I can see Chen Jin losing to LCW is if Chen Jin really want to go shopping in Japan with the cute Japanese WD pair being the tour guide... THAT'S THE ONLY WAY... or maybe LCW may want to do the same and lose on purpose... you just never know.:p

I don't mind making some noises here after LCW gets eliminated in the quarter final, and most of the Malaysian fans are gone for this weekend... if that makes you happy.:p
:p..hehe, nooooo..In fact, i prefer the forum to be populated with as many BCers and them filling the forum w/noise (btw, majority of BCers are from M'sia, if you don't already know)..;):cool:

:p..hehe, nooooo..In fact, i prefer the forum to be populated with as many BCers and them filling the forum w/noise (btw, majority of BCers are from M'sia, if you don't already know)..;):cool:

You just broke my little heart...:crying::crying::crying:.

Be prepared for the re-match of last year Japan Open MS final... Lin Dan vs Taufik... until the 2nd part of the 3rd game, that match was one of my favorite actually...:cool:

Goodbye, majority of BCers, guess you guys won't be around on Saturday nor Sunday and hope you guys come back next week + thanks for coming by...LOL:p

You just broke my little heart...:crying::crying::crying:.
:confused:..and whyyy??..:confused::p
Be prepared for the re-match of last year Japan Open MS final... Lin Dan vs Taufik... until the 2nd part of the 3rd game, that match was one of my favorite actually...:cool:
..yes, let's hope for a rematch from last yr's MS Final:p..I'm sure LinDan, after seeing the debacle in the 3rd game of last yr's Japan Open, is quite antsy in playing against Taufik again, as he has unfinished business to take care of in his mind..:rolleyes::D;):cool:

:confused:..and whyyy??..:confused::p

I thought you meant my posts in this forum ain't/wont be entertaining enough to compensate the loss of all the Malaysian fans after LCW losing out in the QF tomorrow.:p

I thought you meant my posts in this forum ain't/wont be entertaining enough to compensate the loss of all the Malaysian fans after LCW losing out in the QF tomorrow.:p
..you, bananakid:p....never change, only the screen-name changes..:rolleyes::D;)

..you, bananakid:p....never change, only the screen-name changes..:rolleyes::D;)

You got that right...LOL:D
I tried to behave more, but someone(not you) got me started again, it's hard to stop...:p

You got that right...LOL:D
I tried to behave more, but someone(not you) got me started again, it's hard to stop...:p

better behave again, bananakid, you are being watched...

better behave again, bananakid, you are being watched...

:crying::crying::crying: now, I am sad...:crying::crying::crying:

Or soon you might become the bananababy :D

I don't think it's anybody's fault. In any sport there are upsets. I saw them play today and they tried everything to win. It was just unfortunate that all of them lost today except LCW. There were other upsets in other teams, Fu/Cai tandem is also a victim.
Roslin Hashim almost got Lin Dan, Gao Ling and Hwang Shui struggled hard before winning.
All the Malaysian players tried very hard. Let's not blame anyone. In any sport, there are winners and losers. It's all part of the game.

Nice quote buddy.. MAS shouldn't feel ashame with the fighting display by their players. IF they both lost the game tamely with all sets going under 10 pts, we could not said much but js feel they are giving up the games to their opponents. In fact, for me, MAS, INA, KOR etc whoever tried hard to win but failed deserve some respects :cool:

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I am not so sure "RH almost got LD'. LD tends to play easy in the early rounds and go 3-setter with unseeded players. How LD played RH would indicate whether he was playing easy or indeed pushed hard by RH extending to 3 sets. The 3rd game was a one-sided affair, may indicate that even though the game went 3-set, LD was not threatened at all.

I don't believe any player would play it easy in Super Series events. If they can get it in 2 sets they will.
All the players are possible winners. Some may have better edge than the others but it is still anybody's game. :)

I don't believe any player would play it easy in Super Series events. If they can get it in 2 sets they will.
All the players are possible winners. Some may have better edge than the others but it is still anybody's game. :)

Agree there are no easy games especially in SS...therefore I concur with you.

I don't believe any player would play it easy in Super Series events. If they can get it in 2 sets they will.
All the players are possible winners. Some may have better edge than the others but it is still anybody's game. :)

If u r a player who plays competitive tourneys, ur statement is somehow untrue. Few players are slow starter, others need time to adjust to the draft in the stadium, or just to get the feel of the tourney. IMHO, there's no way this old vetaran carries any threats to the mighty LinDan, and the 3rd set results just proved everything.

Anyway, a win is always a sweet win, be it 2 setters or rubbers.

I think is normal for MD to go down again after the WC, they just need some time to bound back.

but see what YKH said to the news:
“Besides, there were other upsets too. Our goal is the Beijing Olympics and I am confident our players will get back on the right track.”

Last year, when Thomas cup fail, he said the same thing and set new goal as WC".

One month ago, WC fail, he said "is good experience so can learn form the mistake, we will review and show improve in JO"

now, JO fail, he said "our goal is olympic"

next year if olympic fail, he will said "is ok to fail in beijing, our goal is 2009 WC"

2009 if WC fail, he will said, "we learn so much from WC 2009, our goal is 2010 asian game"

and going on and on.........

My interpretation of the results:-

Many of those who did well in WC (including 1 World Champ) went down so early in JO. That could be a question of not being able to reach peak again after WC. Not so easy to maintain your form unless you are really far ahead. Case in point, CHN MS, the two semifinalists BCL and CY got knocked out, leaving LD (who is far ahead of the rest) and CJ (who got knocked out early in WC).

As for the most competitive section (MD), it is possible that the 2nd tier pairs (who usually don't even reach q-finals) are now able to harness the right tactics for 21-pt game, eg. JAP 2 pairs, 1 SIN pair. The older pairs (1 DEN, 1 INA/US) show that they still have it to hack at the top level. This makes it very interesting for future tournaments, CHN, MAS and KOR top pairs (who dominated all previous Super Series) all got beaten and cannot take any opponent for granted now.

Slow shuttle or not ......:D

If u r a player who plays competitive tourneys, ur statement is somehow untrue. Few players are slow starter, others need time to adjust to the draft in the stadium, or just to get the feel of the tourney. IMHO, there's no way this old vetaran carries any threats to the mighty LinDan, and the 3rd set results just proved everything.

Anyway, a win is always a sweet win, be it 2 setters or rubbers.

I agree. :) It's just that playing it easy is different from being a slow starter.

I think is normal for MD to go down again after the WC, they just need some time to bound back.

but see what YKH said to the news:
“Besides, there were other upsets too. Our goal is the Beijing Olympics and I am confident our players will get back on the right track.”

Last year, when Thomas cup fail, he said the same thing and set new goal as WC".

One month ago, WC fail, he said "is good experience so can learn form the mistake, we will review and show improve in JO"

now, JO fail, he said "our goal is olympic"

next year if olympic fail, he will said "is ok to fail in beijing, our goal is 2009 WC"

2009 if WC fail, he will said, "we learn so much from WC 2009, our goal is 2010 asian game"

and going on and on.........
What would you say if you were YKH? Let's hear it from you so he can learn.

I agree. :) It's just that playing it easy is different from being a slow starter.

In the NSS21 system, if ones underestimate the opponent or 'play easy', he/she will get killed in the game. A good example is LCW vs Sony in WC07. LCW admitted that he was a bit underestimated Sony and when Sony played tremendously well, LCW was caught off guard. By the time he realised his faults, pooooofffff, the game is over. :cool:

If u observe LD's game, he is always taking it slow in the first set, and eventually speed up the attacking game (if needed) in the rubber. Roslin had no answer at all... Remember how he thrashed Anup in the 2nd game? Same pattern...

Anyway, lets enjoy the LD vs Gade in QF today... both are great players, and hope the best man wins :)

What would you say if you were YKH? Let's hear it from you so he can learn.

As far as YKH is concerned, I can understand his statements. Like the old saying,"There's a better tomorrow."

I think he has done his best to bring out the best of his players, and it all depends on the individual to perform on court. In this case, Msia players lack the winning mentality, and at times, succumb to pressure.

I dun think he could drop any of the seniors coz the juniors are far from the top levels yet. Dats why Mr.Yoyo is still in the elite team instead of chopping board.

What would you say if you were YKH? Let's hear it from you so he can learn.

Personally I think its normal , winning and losing is part of a game. MS HH had to meet LCW, YKB vs TH and RH vs LD, we can expect the outcome here right.

XD and WD they are really not consistent, they can lose to anyone in any given day. WS results are as expected also.

In MD events its a bit tricky, I think that most coutry are really improving and they also have studied and train hard to beat the top pairs.

Last time during WC07 only CTF/LWW left to carry the MAS flag, now only LCW left so lets not bash the players, just be greatfull. :D

YKH should focus more on his job rather than talk too much :mad:.

In the NSS21 system, if ones underestimate the opponent or 'play easy', he/she will get killed in the game. A good example is LCW vs Sony in WC07. LCW admitted that he was a bit underestimated Sony and when Sony played tremendously well, LCW was caught off guard. By the time he realised his faults, pooooofffff, the game is over. :cool:

If u observe LD's game, he is always taking it slow in the first set, and eventually speed up the attacking game (if needed) in the rubber. Roslin had no answer at all... Remember how he thrashed Anup in the 2nd game? Same pattern...

Anyway, lets enjoy the LD vs Gade in QF today... both are great players, and hope the best man wins :)


In the WC match that LCW lost Sony, I thought Sony won because he found out LCW's weakness. He played a lot to his forehand - I think he also mixed the shots a lot, pushing a lethargic LCW around so much that LCW could not pick up his own game. But you are right that you cannot relax too much in a 21-pt game - it could be too late to recover (and too taxing on the mind).

In the WC match that LCW lost Sony, I thought Sony won because he found out LCW's weakness. He played a lot to his forehand - I think he also mixed the shots a lot, pushing a lethargic LCW around so much that LCW could not pick up his own game. But you are right that you cannot relax too much in a 21-pt game - it could be too late to recover (and too taxing on the mind).

Oh... thanks for the insider info :p My source is only from The Star, so u could be right :)

FYI, I was the same batch with Roslin(Kelantan) and I knew his game very well (during his junior yrs). He is definitely a slow starter and marathon runner kinda player. So he has huge disadvantages in the NSS21.

I don't think it's anybody's fault. In any sport there are upsets. I saw them play today and they tried everything to win. It was just unfortunate that all of them lost today except LCW. There were other upsets in other teams, Fu/Cai tandem is also a victim.
Roslin Hashim almost got Lin Dan, Gao Ling and Hwang Shui struggled hard before winning.
All the Malaysian players tried very hard. Let's not blame anyone. In any sport, there are winners and losers. It's all part of the game.
Thank you for your on-court perspective.It's important for armchair critics to know the truth:They went down fighting, sometimes they nick it,just that this time they don't, in matches that could go either way.
The thing to note is this:MAS MDs have been working their hardest but that does not mean they are owed titles.Blaming and shaming will not help them win.
The saddest was when Rexy accused them of being mercenary,in what must be his moment of greatest despair.That was the unkindest cut and I thought Rexy owe his charges an apology because other MAS big wigs echoed that sentiment. That's both harmful and hurtful esp. when it's not true.(I still think Rexy should apologise privately to his team for that remark so they can move on because that's a reflexive accusation.)
Rexy's a great coach ,his charges are talented players and it's important they remember they are still a great team that has it to make it big.
When things go awry,be unemotional and objective. Identify the mistakes so as not to repeat them. Analyse winning and losing patterns.Remember the competition is growing, not just in intensity but also in numbers.
Better make all the mistakes now so there's minimal in OG08.

What would you say if you were YKH? Let's hear it from you so he can learn.

Let say "our target is 5 golds in 2096 olympic, so we still have planty of time to do what ever we want, and my job will be safe until I retire !"

In the NSS21 system, if ones underestimate the opponent or 'play easy', he/she will get killed in the game. A good example is LCW vs Sony in WC07. LCW admitted that he was a bit underestimated Sony and when Sony played tremendously well, LCW was caught off guard. By the time he realised his faults, pooooofffff, the game is over. :cool:

If u observe LD's game, he is always taking it slow in the first set, and eventually speed up the attacking game (if needed) in the rubber. Roslin had no answer at all... Remember how he thrashed Anup in the 2nd game? Same pattern...

Anyway, lets enjoy the LD vs Gade in QF today... both are great players, and hope the best man wins :)
Believe me ,LD does not take it slow with top players.

There is so many factors to contribute to a player's loss. What we really need to learn is how to be consistent. For example China.. i have to admit that their players are very consistent.

If we're frustrated, then rexy must be double, triple frustrated. Must he be mad again to these pairs like he did before only then they will get better?

There is so many factors to contribute to a player's loss. What we really need to learn is how to be consistent. For example China.. i have to admit that their players are very consistent.

I was shocked to see Chinese MD are quite inconsistent lately compare with their MS players :cool:

There is so many factors to contribute to a player's loss. What we really need to learn is how to be consistent. For example China.. i have to admit that their players are very consistent.
Not so now even with CHN on an individual basis. Look at CHN MS. LD may be exceptionally consistent but for how long? MD, XD, WS even WD, for how long?

Not so now even with CHN on an individual basis. Look at CHN MS. LD may be exceptionally consistent but for how long? MD, XD, WS even WD, for how long?

Well they are long enuff to see themselves on the podium most of the time. That is what we want for our Msian players. I want to see our flag raised and be carried around the court after win.

look like all the malaysian & bam should learn a lesson from this JO..
we can't give too much pressure to our players!
it is not their job to carry the pressure & win becoz we want it..
they onli need to do their best & dun worry about being blame or watever..
you can see the difference as rexy wan their players do GREAT,they Fail..
but there are surprise from chong wei when everyone didn't expect him to it..
now we knw tat there is a point when chong wei say tat YKH giv him too much pressure..
his statement might be right & tat had solved his problem, atleast now..

i think its their training session. i am not blaming it on anyone, but they need a rest or at least a holiday.
well the pressure also might be a factor too. try to look back and think!!