I just talked to BWF this morning and has found out the list of withdrawals

1. CHINA
All withdrew except Chen Hong

2. Hong Kong
I believe Wang Chen and Zhou Mi are still in as the list until 9.30 am ( monday), their names are still listed

3. MAS
Lydia Cheah
Yogendran
Teo Kok Siang
Kuan Kam Chung

4. INA
Greysia Polii/Jo Novita
Greysia Polii/M.Rizal

So there is not true that MK/HS and Nova/Natsir withdrew..

5. India
Anup Shridar

The REST:

Wenny Rahmawati ( France)
Eriko Hirose ( Japan)
Blair/Clark ( ENG)
Filipa Lamy ( Portugal)
Porntip ( Thai)
Sutheaswari ( MAS)
Yoana Martinez
Kuncala/Songphon ( Thai)
Dettmann/Lillie ( Ger)
Nielsen/Eriksen ( Den)
Eymard/Stoyanov ( FRA)
Kuncala/Duang -anong ( WD from Thai)

hmmmm

with all china's withdrawals, indonesia should win all titles or atleast 4 titles :)

Read in the papers that CHN's withdrawal due to visa problems. That means even CH has withdrawn.

Read in the papers that CHN's withdrawal due to visa problems. That means even CH has withdrawn.
Thats what newpapers say..but I believe it is more than visa problems....Chen Hong does not have problem of getting visa..may be because he married A Tawainese...

I just talked to BWF this morning and has found out the list of withdrawals

5. India
Anup Shridar


Hey Anup, Taufik wants his revenge... don't withdraw... :(

Politics? But I didn't hear of any new "clashes" between Taiwan and China ....

So, it seems like Greysia Polii still has not recovered from her injury.

Free for all for the rest then? Chen Hong is still no pushover though.

Politics? But I didn't hear of any new "clashes" between Taiwan and China ....

china refuse the taiwan's participation in OG 2008.. and taiwan answer the rejection with refusing chn's visa

correct me if i'm wrong

Read there will be a re-draw.
Any chance of a repeat final between LCW and TH??

china refuse the taiwan's participation in OG 2008.. and taiwan answer the rejection with refusing chn's visa

correct me if i'm wrong
Something like that.....I dare not speak politics here....:D:D

Read there will be a re-draw.
Any chance of a repeat final between LCW and TH??

I think CH will be top seeded, followed by LCW...TH can meet LCW in final if tTH is on CH's draw...as a matter of fact, the draw will be out tonight...thats what they told me.....also it will be several last minute withdrawal...what I got here was around 9.30 am this morning....

Something like that.....I dare not speak politics here....:D:D

Seriously, politics shud be kept out of sports.........but then in the real world, it's not going to happen. Better keep BC politics free !!:p

china refuse the taiwan's participation in OG 2008.. and taiwan answer the rejection with refusing chn's visa

correct me if i'm wrong

Really? That's very sad indeed and Olympic committe is not taking any action about this?

Really? That's very sad indeed and Olympic committe is not taking any action about this?Well, what do you suggest that they do/can do anyway?

I think CH will be top seeded, followed by LCW...TH can meet LCW in final if tTH is on CH's draw...as a matter of fact, the draw will be out tonight...thats what they told me.....also it will be several last minute withdrawal...what I got here was around 9.30 am this morning....

i hope sony is in the same half draw with lcw :D.. the delay rematch should be played here :D

china refuse the taiwan's participation in OG 2008.. and taiwan answer the rejection with refusing chn's visa

correct me if i'm wrong
:eek: What the heck is going on? :confused:

:eek: What the heck is going on? :confused:

we must ask our taiwanesse BCers What the heck is going on there ? :D

Well, what do you suggest that they do/can do anyway?

I am not qualify to suggest but isn't this too obvious the wrong thing to do, not allowing Taiwan to participate in Olympic 2008 for political reason? You mean to say the Olympic committe knew about this all the time and yet allow China to host? So sad for Olympic :crying:
I was so touch when I saw the South and North Koreans marching in sides by sides even with their huge differences and really anticipate to see Taiwan and China to do the similar thing, I am just too naive.

I am not qualify to suggest but isn't this too obvious the wrong thing to do, not allowing Taiwan to participate in Olympic 2008 for political reason? You mean to say the Olympic committe knew about this all the time and yet allow China to host? So sad for Olympic :crying:
I was so touch when I saw the South and North Koreans marching in sides by sides even with their huge differences and really anticipate to see Taiwan and China to do the similar thing, I am just too naive.


It is not final yet...OC will do something about it..stay tune!

China refused to come because of the Olympics game. Taiwan already gave China players VISA approvals a week ago, but China is not allowing players to play. It's not Taiwan who is refusing to give VISA to people from China, (ie. Yao-Ming just visited Taiwan recently), but the politics is so sensitive that China had to stop everything related to Taiwan.

All the posters in Taiwan on this Taipei Open are saying that China team will come this year and it's going to be a great event. Well, now it's too late to change them and there will be problems on those soon because people will be disappointed!

It is not final yet...OC will do something about it..stay tune!
China refused to come because of the Olympics game. Taiwan already gave China players VISA approvals a week ago, but China is not allowing players to play. It's not Taiwan who is refusing to give VISA to people from China, (ie. Yao-Ming just visited Taiwan recently), but the politics is so sensitive that China had to stop everything related to Taiwan.

All the posters in Taiwan on this Taipei Open are saying that China team will come this year and it's going to be a great event. Well, now it's too late to change them and there will be problems on those soon because people will be disappointed!
..this kind of reminds me a bit of the recent last minute withdrawal, from the THA squad, in the World Championships..
..but boy, if that's really the main issue, esp. if it's just over a sporting event, then we probably know which side will be blushing--:rolleyes::p..Too bad for the Taiwanese fans who are looking forward to this tourney..:p

Really? That's very sad indeed and Olympic committe is not taking any action about this?

What do you think they should do...

Ban CHN? So, what will happen to OLY'08 then?

This is just a sad case; politics and sports, but it a common practise. I wonder who loses in the end and who wins too. Just sad.

china refuse the taiwan's participation in OG 2008.. and taiwan answer the rejection with refusing chn's visa

correct me if i'm wrong

As far as I know, China never refuses Taiwan's participation in OG 2008. However, there is controversy about Taiwan's status in the game. Taiwanese President Chen insists on not to be labelled as a part of China ; refusing to be in the internal torch route. It's not easy to sort out the differences that has to be dated back to 1949.

As far as I know, China never refuses Taiwan's participation in OG 2008. However, there is controversy about Taiwan's status in the game. Taiwanese President Chen insists on not to be labelled as a part of China ; refusing to be in the internal torch route. It's not easy to sort out the differences that has to be dated back to 1949.

tats wat i heard of too.......

Politics n sport shouldn't be mixed together...but sometimes, aiyyyyyyyyyya...this bring disaster to fans n the sport itself.

I m not going to say more bout CHN n Taiwan relationship, though i have follo the trend quite sometimes...

Chn submitted their visa application end of Aug but rejected by Taiwan, n Chn resent on 5/9/07, and were approved by Taiwan on 12/9/07...but by then, Chn had made the decision to withdraw...

wat a sad ending...

Politics? But I didn't hear of any new "clashes" between Taiwan and China ....

President Ah-Bian is lobbying to join UN using the name of 'Taiwan'...this is the latest 'clash' between Taiwan n CHN...

More discussion?

Can send me private message:D:D:D

Kwun will close this thread if i continue to say...

But i m really disappointed wf the outcome...:crying::crying::crying:

Chn submitted their visa application end of Aug but rejected by Taiwan, n Chn resent on 5/9/07, and were approved by Taiwan on 12/9/07...but by then, Chn had made the decision to withdraw...
wat a sad ending...
Sigh... I want but u don't allow.:( Now u allow but I don't want already.:mad:

China refused to come because of the Olympics game. Taiwan already gave China players VISA approvals a week ago, but China is not allowing players to play. It's not Taiwan who is refusing to give VISA to people from China, (ie. Yao-Ming just visited Taiwan recently), but the politics is so sensitive that China had to stop everything related to Taiwan.

All the posters in Taiwan on this Taipei Open are saying that China team will come this year and it's going to be a great event. Well, now it's too late to change them and there will be problems on those soon because people will be disappointed!

This is bad... media had played down the role of Taiwan and make it looks like Taiwan is the bad guy. *sigh*

Who cares?:eek: W/o the chinese .. More chances for other nations to emerge champions rite ?:rolleyes::D:D
BTW, I don't fink China will send their Top player to TW just as in Philipines open. They just never threat Gold Series or any events other than SS seriously.. Correct me if i am wrong here.. :(

Lee CHong Wei will also be playing in Taiwan Open.

Lee CHong Wei will also be playing in Taiwan Open.

Ya.. forget so he is also a Chinese.. I should make amends to my previus post.. which is W/O THE CHINA TEAM ;)

Sigh... I want but u don't allow.:( Now u allow but I don't want already.:mad:

exactly...:mad:

no fun...without Chn team, i will have no chance to fight with my fellow bcer...u shud know who u r:D:D:D

exactly...:mad:

no fun...without Chn team, i will have no chance to fight with my fellow bcer...u shud know who u r:D:D:D
Is that me?:D:D:D.............

What do you think they should do...

Ban CHN? So, what will happen to OLY'08 then?

This is just a sad case; politics and sports, but it a common practise. I wonder who loses in the end and who wins too. Just sad.
As far as I know, China never refuses Taiwan's participation in OG 2008. However, there is controversy about Taiwan's status in the game. Taiwanese President Chen insists on not to be labelled as a part of China ; refusing to be in the internal torch route. It's not easy to sort out the differences that has to be dated back to 1949.
Politics n sport shouldn't be mixed together...but sometimes, aiyyyyyyyyyya...this bring disaster to fans n the sport itself.

I m not going to say more bout CHN n Taiwan relationship, though i have follo the trend quite sometimes...

Chn submitted their visa application end of Aug but rejected by Taiwan, n Chn resent on 5/9/07, and were approved by Taiwan on 12/9/07...but by then, Chn had made the decision to withdraw...

wat a sad ending...
..will BWF/organizer hand down some fines for the CHN squad's withdrawal??..:confused::(

Ya.. forget so he is also a Chinese
No, he is not. Trust me on this one.

No, he is not. Trust me on this one.

Lee Chong Wei is a Malaysian Chinese. Ethnically Chinese & citizen of Malaysia. Trust me on this one!

exactly...:mad:

no fun...without Chn team, i will have no chance to fight with my fellow bcer...u shud know who u r:D:D:D

I'll fight with you - U choose Hafiz and I choose LCW.:D

Lee Chong Wei is a Malaysian Chinese. Ethnically Chinese & citizen of Malaysia. Trust me on this one!
Lee Chong Wei is first and foremost a Malaysian, presenting the country of Malaysia. Ask him if he cares about Team China - he'd love to see them lose, preferably in court against him I'd gather!

'Chinese' with the capital C denotes a mainland native to the country of China, while 'chinese' with the small letter denote one from that ethnic origin, possibly sharing the traditions and ancestry (or not), but not necessarily signifying his loyalty to the aforementioned country.

Hence, as much as some of you like to (mistakenly) imply, Lee Chong Wei has no ties with China except perhaps immigration chops on his Malaysian passport as well as records of defeating some of their players in world badminton.

In straight sets. ;)

Hence, as much as some of you like to (mistakenly) imply, Lee Chong Wei has no ties with China except perhaps immigration chops on his Malaysian passport as well as records of defeating some of their players in world badminton.

In straight sets. ;)



Thats so funny:D:D:D

Hence, as much as some of you like to (mistakenly) imply, Lee Chong Wei has no ties with China except perhaps immigration chops on his Malaysian passport as well as records of defeating some of their players in world badminton.

In straight sets. ;)



Thats so funny:D:D:D


Yes in straight sets.:D

Hence, as much as some of you like to (mistakenly) imply, Lee Chong Wei has no ties with China except perhaps immigration chops on his Malaysian passport as well as records of defeating some of their players in world badminton.

In straight sets. ;)

And also having been defeated by Chinese players in straight sets too. ;)

I'll fight with you - U choose Hafiz and I choose LCW.:D

:crying::crying::crying:, we owes on the same boat...y separate me from u:crying::crying::crying:...

:D:D:D, we fight, but on court....

china refuse the taiwan's participation in OG 2008.. and taiwan answer the rejection with refusing chn's visa

correct me if i'm wrong
who told you china refuse taiwan's participation?
its taiwan refused Olympic torch!
YaoMing was asked not to talk about the torch/OG when visited TW

it's really weird some BCer can believe china refused taiwan's participation, are you kids or are you kidding??

who told you china refuse taiwan's participation?
its taiwan refused Olympic torch!
YaoMing was asked not to talk about the torch/OG when visited TW

complicated issue here...made by human:mad:

who told you china refuse taiwan's participation?
its taiwan refused Olympic torch!
YaoMing was asked not to talk about the torch/OG when visited TW

it's really weird some BCer can believe china refused taiwan's participation, are you kids or are you kidding??

so i was wrong :D thanks for the correction, but i was not kidding .
i've heard,
china allow taiwan to participate in OG, if they play as part of china like HK. i bet Taiwan will refuse it :p and china will refuse taiwan's participation if they play as an 'independent' country :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

correct me if i'm wrong again

so i was wrong :D thanks for the correction, but i was not kidding .
i've heard,
china allow taiwan to participate in OG, if they play as part of china like HK. i bet Taiwan will refuse it :p and china will refuse taiwan's participation if they play as an 'independent' country :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

correct me if i'm wrong again

we just can't use a word or two to explain the situation now...this involve history, political ideology and of coz interest of the country...

very sad for 2 'area' sharing 99% of language, culture n civilization to involve in this 'typhoon'...

.............

Hence, as much as some of you like to (mistakenly) imply, Lee Chong Wei has no ties with China except perhaps immigration chops on his Malaysian passport as well as records of defeating some of their players in world badminton.

In straight sets. ;)How about his grandparents or great grandparents? Can't they be regarded as ties to China:)? Anyway, we have discussed the issue at great length in this threadyou are not chinese (http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8391)

How about his grandparents or great grandparents? Can't they be regarded as ties to China:)?
Wow, they won in straight sets too?

The terms of Chinese/Non-Chinese itself was a complicated issues.. Could not be possible to solve it in straight sets

Read in the papers that CHN's withdrawal due to visa problems. That means even CH has withdrawn.

may i know what is the name of the news paper pliz...

Lee Tsuen Tseng is the latest name to withdraw

For China players not able to go Taiwan, the issue is not about the race but the Nationality.

Go read a little about the conflict between China and Taiwan and you will understand.

Chinese from other nationality will have not much of a problem getting to China or Taiwan. Once again, the nationality and not the race.

Regardless of admitting it or not, the best players in the world are almost Chinese. They are Chinese in mainland China, HK, MC, TW, or overseas Chinese in MS, IND, if you know their ancester immigrated from CN many years ago. They do have Chinese names, sometimes with Cantonese format, sometimes with other provincial format.

Lee Chong Wei is first and foremost a Malaysian, presenting the country of Malaysia. Ask him if he cares about Team China - he'd love to see them lose, preferably in court against him I'd gather!

'Chinese' with the capital C denotes a mainland native to the country of China, while 'chinese' with the small letter denote one from that ethnic origin, possibly sharing the traditions and ancestry (or not), but not necessarily signifying his loyalty to the aforementioned country.

Hence, as much as some of you like to (mistakenly) imply, Lee Chong Wei has no ties with China except perhaps immigration chops on his Malaysian passport as well as records of defeating some of their players in world badminton.

In straight sets. ;)


What is 'chinese' again? I could not find it in Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictinary.

Do find 'Chinese':
1 a : a native or inhabitant of China b : a person of Chinese descent
2 : a group of related languages used by .......

:D

What is 'chinese' again? I could not find it in Merriam-Webster's 11th Collegiate Dictinary.

Do find 'Chinese':
1 a : a native or inhabitant of China b : a person of Chinese descent
2 : a group of related languages used by .......

:D

Forget it... otherwise nobody will play badminton except PRC Chinese or overseas Chinese :D.. Simply because Chinese are much talented than other ethnical groups in this game, as same as Africans in the boxing and althelet :crying:

Re LCW defenders: His name is from Chinese and he could speak/understand Chinese very well. His family has Chinese religous belief. :D