Chinese Taipei Open Final ( September 23,2007)

[samuel882]

samuel, give us score!!! :D
Warm up time.. be patient ;)

[huangkwokhau]

Where is Badmania???

[alohio12]

If they beat China in the final, the Chinese ppl would have been as happy as the Taiwanese ppl. There's only ONE China!

haha i dont know about that, but maybe

[samuel882]

Where is Badmania???
He is enjoying the SPA trip at Shenzhen :D:D

[Felix.]

LOL. Anyone could have said that. Even the non-badminton fans.
Yeah, whatever, taiwanese commentators rock!!!1!!

Meanwhile, I'm off to bed. Ciao.

[huangkwokhau]

If they beat China in the final, the Chinese ppl would have been as happy as the Taiwanese ppl. There's only ONE China!
Thats why they are not coming..also CHina decided not to pass Olympic Torch thru taiwan.....we know why...too many differences about name, flags, songs, etc.....thats sad!!

[huangkwokhau]

:cool:
He is enjoying the SPA trip at Shenzhen :D:D
But Butet/Vita lost so he could not go to SPA....:cool::cool::mad:

[samuel882]

JR .. you are the master here in BC !!

[Tjun Tjun]

[quote=ctjcad;671081]..TPE pair was quite resilient showing some pretty tough defense as well, repelling the INA's attack while displaying some poise..]

Agree, Taipei gals did well....cannot take anything away from them although I was rooting for Butet & Vita ........

[samuel882]

1-0.. a good start by Danes

[samuel882]

2-1.. for INA ...

[Speed & Power]

Thats why they are not coming..also CHina decided not to pass Olympic Torch thru taiwan.....we know why...too many differences about name, flags, songs, etc.....thats sad!!

China would be glad if the Taiwanese leadership allowed the torch passing thru Taiwan island but looks like the Taiwanese had different ideas.

[jasonmarc]

Thats why they are not coming..also CHina decided not to pass Olympic Torch thru taiwan.....we know why...too many differences about name, flags, songs, etc.....thats sad!!

all these becos of politic......its bad for sport....sad..By the way, have MD started....cant wait any more...go..go..Den:D:D:D:D

[LI De Quan]

Thats why they are not coming..also CHina decided not to pass Olympic Torch thru taiwan.....we know why...too many differences about name, flags, songs, etc.....thats sad!!

International Olympic Committee (IOC)
Not China lol!!

[samuel882]

2-2.. a slow start by both pair !

[samuel882]

4-2.. more smashed by Hendrawan

[huangkwokhau]

International Olympic Committee (IOC)
Not China lol!!
Really??.............

[samuel882]

3-5 .Danes trailing

[jasonmarc]

4-2.. more smashed by Hendrawan

Why is 'Hendrawan'????:confused::confused:

[ctjcad]

:):cool:
Hej Danmark!
Kom igen Jonas! Kom igen Lars!
Kom nu JR & Lars!
Sejeren er Deres!
Jonas & Lars Rules! Kom igen!
Og det var Jonas, og det var Lars, olé - olé - olé!!!
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[huangkwokhau]

all these becos of politic......its bad for sport....sad..By the way, have MD started....cant wait any more...go..go..Den:D:D:D:D
okay..I support INA......:D:D

[samuel882]

6-3.. HS looks fiery compare with kido

[Wildstone]

to China broadcasters:
Please learn from the taiwanese (only referring to this aspect), when you broadcast something, make sure you broadcast it till the end.

[taufik-ist]

International Olympic Committee (IOC)
Not China lol!!

but by china's lobby :rolleyes: :rolleyes:

[samuel882]

Chris.. Same RED & White flags for both country huh :p

[jasonmarc]

okay..I support INA......:D:D

I know always!...U dont have to repeat that....:D:D:D

[huangkwokhau]

China would be glad if the Taiwanese leadership allowed the torch passing thru Taiwan island but looks like the Taiwanese had different ideas.
I know...thats sad......

[samuel882]

Why is 'Hendrawan'????:confused::confused:

Ops .. my mistake.. Obviously the coach did not play in the court now:o

[samuel882]

7-9.. Good serve by JR

[huangkwokhau]

8-5 for INA........

[samuel882]

9-all all level

[jasonmarc]

:D
Ops .. my mistake.. Obviously the coach did not play in the court now :rolleyes:

Yes, and he coaches the single players...not double...;):D:D Gotcha!!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D

[Tjun Tjun]

Wow..........level 9-9.................

[samuel882]

11-10 Interval for Danes delight

[Tjun Tjun]

Toilet break...........11-10 to the Danes............

[samuel882]

Its gona be a 50-50 game here

[huangkwokhau]

if I am right..hendra setiawan is brother in-law of Hendrawan

[Tjun Tjun]

Longest rally ending in favour of the Danes 12-10..............

[samuel882]

11-12... a missed chance by LP

[samuel882]

13-12 for DANES !!

[samuel882]

14-12.. INA playing a suicide games by keep sending the shuttle high

[Tjun Tjun]

Danes lead by 2 points 14-12............now 14-13............

[samuel882]

14-14.. KIDO shows his power again

[Tjun Tjun]

Level once again 14-14.............

[samuel882]

16-14.. INA start to pull it through ..

[huangkwokhau]

dont let it slip again...........

[samuel882]

16-all again level

[Tjun Tjun]

Level again 16-16.............

[samuel882]

18-16.. closer to win

[THEbaschti]

DENMARK!!!!!!!

Will be a hard test, but they'll win in a tight game I think.
Thx for the livescores guys, keep em coming. ;)

[samuel882]

INA at gamepoint at 20-16

[samuel882]

21-17 for INA ends with a long rally

[huangkwokhau]

Hendra plays well with his tricky shots in front of nets

[samuel882]

MK/HS is gona take over the 2nd spot from KKK/TBH in the latest WR

[samuel882]

2ns game started.. with INA taking the 1st point

[ctjcad]

..little rally near end of 1st set, ending with Hendra displaying a nifty semi-smash return..:cool:

[samuel882]

2-nil.. INA looks good for a title

[ye333]

MD final is good.

Kido/Setiawan should win against the old champions.

[Tjun Tjun]

Ina leads 3-1............

[samuel882]

4-1.. More mistake by the Danes

[Tjun Tjun]

Danes falling behind 1-5.......Danes need to be more aggressive.....

[samuel882]

7-1 .. INA will win this game

[LI De Quan]

No upset lol!!!

[taufik-ist]

7-1 .. INA will win this game

danes are running out of gas :D

[Tjun Tjun]

Morten Frost looks apprehensive at the courtside ......Danes behind 3-9........

[samuel882]

3-9.. long way behind

[huangkwokhau]

No upset lol!!!
but they have upset my PAWs.....:crying::crying::(:(

[Tjun Tjun]

good rally by Danes 4-9............

[samuel882]

10-4 .. Danes failed to chase it back

[samuel882]

11-4 interval.. one way traffic for the WC

[taufik-ist]

but they have upset my PAWs.....:crying::crying::(:(

naughty naughty... you paw on danes :D :D

[Tjun Tjun]

One way traffic for Ina pair......11-4................

[huangkwokhau]

JR made some errors......so far Ina's defense and attacking work wel....

[huangkwokhau]

naughty naughty... you paw on danes :D :D
no..on others..........:D:D

[jasonmarc]

but they have upset my PAWs.....:crying::crying::(:(

Hey, i tot U support INA...MD..!:confused::confused:

[samuel882]

5-12.. this is a less impressive MD final :(

[samuel882]

14-5.. not explosive at all !

[huangkwokhau]

Hey, i tot U support INA...MD..!:confused::confused:
I do....but support others..lost my PAWs..the curse of Samuel...he did not want me to win.....:mad::mad: gotta blame on Samuel....:D:D

[samuel882]

how dare kido change rackets during a rally !

[huangkwokhau]

INA will take it.so far too many mistakes on danes....

[taufik-ist]

14-5.. not explosive at all !

MK/HS is explosive lol :D :D

[Tjun Tjun]

Can the danes do anything .....Kido/Setiawan are playing well......15-8......

[samuel882]

I do....but support others..lost my PAWs..the curse of Samuel...he did not want me to win.....:mad::mad: gotta blame on Samuel....:D:D
Hey.. You should put all the blames on the over biased commentators instead :mad:

[LI De Quan]

Tine beat 5 Chinese in a row:XU Huaiwen,JIANG Yanjiao,ZN,LU Lan and XIE XF!

Lars/Jonas beat FENG-YUN,HJM/LJJ,LYD/JJS and Fairuzizuan/Zakry in two weeks!

[huangkwokhau]

how dare kido change rackets during a rally !
I know..whats he was thinking??? thats not nice way

[jasonmarc]

I do....but support others..lost my PAWs..the curse of Samuel...he did not want me to win.....:mad::mad: gotta blame on Samuel....:D:D

Yes, 'put the blame on him'....:D

[samuel882]

17-8. Danes is giving up

[Tjun Tjun]

Writing on the wall 16-8.....17-8..............rasmussen breaking his racket......

[huangkwokhau]

Hey.. You should put all the blames on the over biased commentators instead :mad:
:D:D:D now commentators say ncie things so gotta blame on you....:D:D

[Jessica]

Kido/Setiawan is really explosive since they win the World Champion title.MD will be more competitive in the coming time and is the most difficult to predict who the winner is among the five event.

[Tjun Tjun]

2 more points to go 19-9.........19-10..........

[samuel882]

19-9 the Danes coach is smilling !!

[LI De Quan]

2nd set:one-sided!!!

[ctjcad]

Chris.. Same RED & White flags for both country huh :p
..Jonas could come in here and read this thread...gotta give him some support..

Hah, Kido tried to do one of the racket switch move in the middle of the rally, but got faked, as the rally ended just as he was abt to retrieve back to the court...:p

2nd set:one-sided!!!
..Kido & Setiawan are too fast, too strong & too young for the veteran pair..:p

JR, good effort from you!! Look fw to your upcoming tourneys!:cool:

[samuel882]

20-12.. match point

[Tjun Tjun]

Match point 20-11...... 20-12...............

[Tjun Tjun]

Ina won 21-12............

[samuel882]

21-12 a lesson from the WC to the veterans

[jasonmarc]

Congratulation Kido/Hendra....another title after WC07...well done...

[samuel882]

The Danes are back with their best.. a challenger to OG Gold

[huangkwokhau]

I love Morten's shirt." Lets beat them all" ..I guess to remind JR/LP to beat INA......hehe

[LI De Quan]

DEN MD lost!!
Chinese TPE 1 gold
HONG KONG 1 gold
INA three!!!

[huangkwokhau]

Not bad 3 titles for INA..............

[samuel882]

I love Morten's shirt." Lets beat them all" ..I guess to remind JR/LP to beat INA......hehe
And.. What he can do towards the end of second game :rolleyes::crying:

[huangkwokhau]

It was so one sided match on 2nd set.........

[huangkwokhau]

And.. What he can do towards the end of second game :rolleyes::crying:
He smiled ......cant believe it!!!:D:D

[samuel882]

DEN MD lost!!
Chinese TPE 1 gold
HONG KONG 1 gold
INA three!!!
You better watch up !
INA is start to dominate World of Badminton :eek:

[cooler]

DEN MD lost!!
Chinese TPE 1 gold
HONG KONG 1 gold
INA three!!!

actually china 2 gold because china owns HK and one day china would own TW too :p kekeke Not bad for china for not sending their teams :p

[huangkwokhau]

At least JR/LP has a good 2 week....glad they are back...

[samuel882]

actually china 2 gold because china owns HK and one day china would own TW too :p kekeke
a two "CLONE" crown for China :cool:

[jbchiong]

.................................................

Nothing to say!!! I guess that's it for today. Bye bye. Good day!!!

[jasonmarc]

Lets meet again in Macau OPen Forums next week.....

[robin7]

21-12 a lesson from the WC to the veterans
A battle between the current & former World Champions. Finally won by the current WC in straight sets. Bravo INA.

3 out of 5 for INA.

[huangkwokhau]

Lets meet again in Macau OPen Forums next week.....
I wont be here...I will be busy watching.....:D:D

[cooler]

a two "CLONE" crown for China :cool:
INA sent their top guns, china sent their childrens:rolleyes:

[wilfredlgf]

Just trust the Middle Kingdom to claim credit for nuclear technology next.

[chemile]

Well, I think this is the best result for Indonesia in one tournaments, despite no China players. 3 titles are good to boost Indonesian players morale. Almost 4 actually, however get into final for Lilyana/Vita also good achievement, since Vita must played in 2 sectors today, and Lilyana in my humble opinion was not in her best performance since yesterday. She almost could not cover back court at all in match against Taiwanese girls.
Congratulation for Indonesia. Next week will face tough matches since the main opponents, China (or LYB's kingdom?) will try to sweep all titles.

[robin7]

He smiled ......cant believe it!!!:D:D
That's all he could do.:D:D:p:p

[sihar]

21-12 a lesson from the WC to the veterans
Waw....
MK/HS def LP/JR in two sets....
Great jOB!!!
After WC, MK/HS only lost to Luluk/Alvent...

Congrats to Indonesia for winning 3 titles...

[ctjcad]

You better watch up !
INA is start to dominate World of Badminton :eek:

actually china 2 gold because china owns HK and one day china would own TW too :p kekeke Not bad for china for not sending their teams :p
..yeah, remember, this CTO was without the presence of the mighty CHN squad...;)

Lets meet again in Macau OPen Forums next week.....
..hah, Macau Open is next week & our Hau-ge will def. need a 1 week break from this hectic schedule to recoup and join the festivities there...:):p

Congratulation for Indonesia. Next week will face tough matches since the main opponents, China (or LYB's kingdom?) will try to sweep all titles.
..yeah, they'll be ready and rested, for sure..

That's all...i'm off to zzzz soon...:p

[chemile]

I wont be here...I will be busy watching.....:D:D

But you promised to write down every single matches right? I think that will beyond our expectation :) .

[huangkwokhau]

But you promised to write down every single matches right? I think that will beyond our expectation :) .
I cant bring my laptop on court..may be SMS some to you guys to post it here....:mad::mad:..yes..I think you are asking too much from me....:D:D I already got my VIP pass....:D:D

I promise to take some pics for you guys...

[ctjcad]

I promise to take some pics for you guys...
..to buy a digicam, first, so you can upload the pics, right away, for us...looking fw to the pics and whatever gathering(s) you guys'll have there..:p;):)

[huangkwokhau]

:D
..to buy a digicam, first, so you can upload the pics right away...;):)
:D:D I have 2 of them already.....:D:D

[samuel882]

I cant bring my laptop on court..may be SMS some to you guys to post it here....:mad::mad:..yes..I think you are asking too much from me....:D:D I already got my VIP pass....:D:D

I promise to take some pics for you guys...

Remember to SMS me the live score.. Hopes i won't disappointed BCers here ;)

[huangkwokhau]

Remember to SMS me the live score.. Hopes i won't disappointed BCers here ;)
good.....I will ask fastdrop to SMS some too.....:D:D

[chemile]

Badmania, your wish to bring Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan to become World No.1 to be real now..... I just afraid after be a No.1 they will in under pressure like a year before....

[cooler]

MS WD WS winners....

[badMania]

Badmania, your wish to bring Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan to become World No.1 to be real now..... I just afraid after be a No.1 they will in under pressure like a year before....

I am back...not gone yet for my SPA trip :p

Hmm...they will be World No 1 for sure....let's see how they will react.

But, it was such an awesome performance from Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan! They totally dominated the proceedings from the moment it was 14-16 in the first set. Hendra was superb with his coverage of the net and even some smashes from the back. There was noticably less smashes from Kido this time, except during the beginning of the first set :cool: Kido ended the game with one though.

But, they have really IMPROVED on the other aspects of the game....lots of trick shots, better defense and overall a real deserved winner today!

[badMania]

The first match was the XD between Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa and Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl. It's almost like a dejavu as the INA pair totally controlled the game until late in the first set when suddenly the Danish pair woke up. Kamilla was again impressive in front of the net, which created lots of problems for the INA pair. Flandy/Vita closed the first set 21-18. The second-set was a turn-around, like yesterday's match with the Danish pair gaining confidence and lead 11-6 at the interval. Luckily, the INA pair didn't give up and slowly narrowed the gap. The final moments were tense as the Danish pair had chances to close out the game and force a rubber, if not for Thomas Laybourn's crucial mistakes. Eventually, the INA pair was the more stable pair and they took it home 25-23. Phew...very very close indeed. So, Flandy/Vita won their second titles of the year!

I didn't really followed the second match between Wang Chen and Pi Hongyan, but, the match became interesting at the end of the third set. Even though Pi was trailing 8-14 at one stage, she didn't give up and forced deuce at 20-20. She even had match point, but, eventually she lost it 24-26.

As for the men's singles match between Taufik Hidayat and Sony Dwi Kuncoro, it was clear that Taufik gave up in the second set, after taking the first set 21-18. He was a little bit affected by an injury perhaps? There was no turning back too in the rubber-set as Sony was the more consistent man and he won it rather comfortably at 21-13. Congrats to Sony for winning his first GP title (he only won the ABC previously) and he has been pretty good lately, with a Silver at the World Championships and now his first title since 2005.

[badMania]

The WD match between the home favorite Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing and Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir also went to rubber-set. Both pairs were evenly matched until it was 14-14 in the first set. At this point, the home pair nicked some crucial points to establish a crucial advantage. The INA pair only managed one more point as they lost it 15-21. The second set was a strange one. The INA pair was dominant until it was 18-9. Suddenly, the home pair got a second wind as they won 8 consecutive pts to narrow it to 18-17. Luckily for the INA pair, they got back their momentum and took the final 3 pts to win the second set 21-17. As for the rubber-set, the INA pair also held the advantage at 11-8 in the interval and then 13-9. However, the home pair refused to give up as they levelled the score at 13-13. From then on, it was nervy as the scores went to 17-17. The home pair got 2 more points to lead 19-17 before the INA pair got a pt back to make it 19-18. It was not to be as the home pair won the rubber set 21-18 with the last 2 pts of the match.

It was certainly good that the home team at least won a title. However, it was clear for the viewers that Lilyana Natsir was out of sort today (and yesterday too during the XD match). She really looked lost at the back of the court and made lots of mistakes. One strategy perhaps would be to put her in front and Vita at the back? Stamina could also a concern as Lilyana probably is not used to playing both events? Ko Richard and Ko Aryono will have lots of homework to do if they are really to prepare Vita/Butet for the Olympics.

[chemile]

As for the men's singles match between Taufik Hidayat and Sony Dwi Kuncoro, it was clear that Taufik gave up in the second set, after taking the first set 21-18. He was a little bit affected by an injury perhaps? There was no turning back too in the rubber-set as Sony was the more consistent man and he won it rather comfortably at 21-13. Congrats to Sony for winning his first GP title (he only won the ABC previously) and he has been pretty good lately, with a Silver at the World Championships and now his first title since 2005.

I hope Sony will following Joko Supriyanto or Hendrawan (or Eddy Kurniawan in the long long time ago). Both players were little bit late to get the titles, but with the maturity they were more stable and get more and more titles and become world No.1. We will see and follow Sony path, since so many good players at the moment, and not only come from big 'badminton country' such as China, Korea and Denmark, but also from Poland, Vietnam, etc.....
That will be interesting and tough competition.

[badMania]

The last match turned out to be an anti-climax. I expected a close match between the current World Champion and my favorite pair Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan with the former World Champion Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen. We only saw close battle until the score was 16-14 to the Danish pair's advantage. From the onwards, it was one way street for the INA pair. The INA pair took 6 consecutive points to make it 20-16 and then close the first set 21-17.

The second set was almost unbearable to watch as the INA pair really controlled the game from the start. They were able to vary their playing style, such as: switching Hendra to the back as he made some jumping smashes and Kido in front :eek:. There were a number of trick shots and really awesome play by both players such that the Danish pair was rendered helpless and not allowed to regroup. The INA pair won it with Kido's smash (what a way to end it) at 21-12 and this victory means that Kido/Hendra's ranking SHOULD BE NO 1 next week (unless I made some calculation error).

As I have commented before, it's clear that the INA pair DO NOT RELY too much on Kido's attacks lately, esp when facing a top pair. They now have other potent weapons in their arsenal, esp with Hendra's impressive net coverage and trick shots.

I am really eager to watch a match between Kido/Hendra with KKK/TBH as well as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun!

[pjswift]

INA sent their top guns, china sent their childrens:rolleyes:
Even if CHN were to send their top guns, INA would still win 3 titles.In JO, CHN's top guns got muzzled,their confidence so shaken to the core that they won't be in any shape to compete. That's why they use politics as an excuse to prevent any further embarrassment and ego erosion in CTO.They need an extra week to get their heads together and prepare for MCO.But there's no LCW, so their MS's chances should improve dramatically.Well, we'll see if INA MS can swing the title again, this time in the presence of CHN's top guns.

[jiayous]

MS WD WS winners....

so fast ... u got already the pics ... which links to see the pics ?

thank you :D

[zqloy]

I am really eager to watch a match between Kido/Hendra with KKK/TBH as well as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun!

Although they hv nvr beaten KKK/TBH, but based on their recent performance, our boys need to buck up a little to beat an on-form Markis/Hendra. :cool:

[taufik-ist]

INA sent their top guns, china sent their childrens:rolleyes:

they wanted to send you.. but you are too old :D

[badMania]

Even if CHN were to send their top guns, INA would still win 3 titles.In JO, CHN's top guns got muzzled,their confidence so shaken to the core that they won't be in any shape to compete. That's why they use politics as an excuse to prevent any further embarrassment and ego erosion in CTO.They need an extra week to get their heads together and prepare for MCO.But there's no LCW, so their MS's chances should improve dramatically.Well, we'll see if INA MS can swing the title again, this time in the presence of CHN's top guns.

Quite tough though...esp after 2 exhausting weeks.
I would not expect any title from our INA players at Macau.

A title would be a bonus (hopefully from MD) :cool:

[badMania]

Waw....
MK/HS def LP/JR in two sets....
Great jOB!!!
After WC, MK/HS only lost to Luluk/Alvent...


They are always good in the second half of the year. In fact, since the China Masters in July, they lost only to Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (Final) and that match to Luluk/Alvent. I suspected that defeat was pre-arranged so that Luluk/Alvent can get into the Final and eventually won a title (which they failed to do so) :cool:

On Kido/Hendra's form today, there was NO WAY Luluk/Alvent can beat them :rolleyes:

[CLELY]

Great to see INA has grabbed 3 titles here although this is not a big tourney plus without CHN participation. But, probably INA is maintaining its momentum after world-meet back on the right track toward Olympic Games.

Unfortunately, tomboy girls lost to home pair in close games. It's hard to win a title for TH now, 2 times in 2 weeks he entered finale but failed at the end. Bad fortune?

Looking forward for next Thomas Cup, seems INA is the most potential threat to disrupt CHN dominance in this sport...

[taufik-ist]

i think it's better to keep TH as ina 2nd ms for the next Thomas cup 2008

TH lost to sony on purpose

[samuel882]

REally can't figure out the Tomboys.. Wins convincingly against the Mighty China WD in their Homes soil. But lost to the Taiwanese in TPO...
Hopes it won't be a flash in the pan for them ..

[samuel882]

i think it's better to keep TH as ina 2nd ms for the next Thomas cup 2008

TH lost to sony on purpose

TH will be in deep trouble from now on ! he missed the chances to crawl back into top 8 in WR ! If Sony keep his form going.. INA might have to ends up sending only him rather than TH based on qualify on merit for Olympics !!

[Erwin Kyoto]

They are always good in the second half of the year. In fact, since the China Masters in July, they lost only to Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (Final) and that match to Luluk/Alvent. I suspected that defeat was pre-arranged so that Luluk/Alvent can get into the Final and eventually won a title (which they failed to do so) :cool:

On Kido/Hendra's form today, there was NO WAY Luluk/Alvent can beat them :rolleyes:

yeah...I agree with u...

[extremenanopowe]

This Kido is really like Chilli Padi, small but powerful. Well done to all the winners and see you at the Venetian.

Anyone been there? Nice place. Was in Vegas for a conference once and their room was full. So the upgrade me to a $400 bucks (who cares, am not paying it anyway ;) ) a night suite. Toilet, gym all in one and its like a mile away. Next day got kicked to Mirage. ;(
Enjoy Macau!
rgds.

[JR]

Hi Everyone!

I didnt read all the remarks on the final, only the last few.

First, I would like to congratulate Kido and Setiawan for playing outstanding today. As some of you said, they dominated from 14-16 in favour of us and through out the match. I agree they have improved a lot.

Everything seemed to go their way and it was a bit frustrating to be on the other side of the net. I think they hit the net 7-8 times (correct me if I´m wrong). Even the rallies where we did everything right they won.

You know some might consider it lucky for them to hit the net so many times in one match. I tend to look at it differently. The ones that seek the luck will also get the most luck, but it takes a lot of confidence in your game to do that. That´s why it was brilliance and not luck that won them the match. I tried to make a joke about it in the game by placing the shuttle on the net and just letting it drop. I hope that was not too arrogant, but as I said before it was very frustrating to be at the other side, lol.

Thank you for your support and I´m looking forward to the upcoming tournaments with renewed confidence after these two tournaments.

See you all!

Jonas in Taiwan

[JR]

I´ve posted this reply in my forum as well so you can go there and answer if you want!

JR



Hi Everyone!

I didnt read all the remarks on the final, only the last few.

First, I would like to congratulate Kido and Setiawan for playing outstanding today. As some of you said, they dominated from 14-16 in favour of us and through out the match. I agree they have improved a lot.

Everything seemed to go their way and it was a bit frustrating to be on the other side of the net. I think they hit the net 7-8 times (correct me if I´m wrong). Even the rallies where we did everything right they won.

You know some might consider it lucky for them to hit the net so many times in one match. I tend to look at it differently. The ones that seek the luck will also get the most luck, but it takes a lot of confidence in your game to do that. That´s why it was brilliance and not luck that won them the match. I tried to make a joke about it in the game by placing the shuttle on the net and just letting it drop. I hope that was not too arrogant, but as I said before it was very frustrating to be at the other side, lol.

Thank you for your support and I´m looking forward to the upcoming tournaments with renewed confidence after these two tournaments.

See you all!

Jonas in Taiwan

[badMania]

Hi Everyone!

Everything seemed to go their way and it was a bit frustrating to be on the other side of the net. I think they hit the net 7-8 times (correct me if I´m wrong). Even the rallies where we did everything right they won.

You know some might consider it lucky for them to hit the net so many times in one match. I tend to look at it differently. The ones that seek the luck will also get the most luck, but it takes a lot of confidence in your game to do that. That´s why it was brilliance and not luck that won them the match. I tried to make a joke about it in the game by placing the shuttle on the net and just letting it drop. I hope that was not too arrogant, but as I said before it was very frustrating to be at the other side, lol.

Thank you for your support and I´m looking forward to the upcoming tournaments with renewed confidence after these two tournaments.

See you all!

Jonas in Taiwan

Wow...our man JR replying to our thread :D

We all enjoyed your performances over the fortnight....u and Lars have indeed shown yet again that you are still one of the most feared men's doubles pair in the World!

Good luck for your defense of the Denmark Open SS in your home tourney. I think DEN pairs always have good fortunes for their home events. You and Lars have won the Denmark Open several times (2004 beating the then still novice Kido/Hendra and last year too).

[Krisna]

I just returned from my weekly badminton practice + dinner... Woohhooo! INA won 3 titles in a Gold GP! :cool: :cool: :cool: It has been quite a long time since this happened...

http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif We are really on the right track!!! http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/images/icons/icon14.gif Thomas Cup, come back to the motherland! [...where you have resided 13 times before!]

[badMania]

You know some might consider it lucky for them to hit the net so many times in one match. I tend to look at it differently. The ones that seek the luck will also get the most luck, but it takes a lot of confidence in your game to do that. That´s why it was brilliance and not luck that won them the match. I tried to make a joke about it in the game by placing the shuttle on the net and just letting it drop. I hope that was not too arrogant, but as I said before it was very frustrating to be at the other side, lol.


Hmm...that somewhat is linked to my point on the INA's pair apparently superior net play lately....they really have sharpened this aspect of their game :cool:

[wilfredlgf]

Fortune favours the brave.

[Krisna]

Hmm...that somewhat is linked to my point on the INA's pair apparently superior net play lately....they really have sharpened this aspect of their game :cool:

Actually, even at the INA club levels today, INA players particularly pay attention to the net-play aspect... Many INA coaches at the club level have the opinion that this aspect should be our 'competitive advantage' over the Koreans, Chinese, and Denmark.... Many INA clubs insist that their players spend extra hours on the net game... ;)

Another aspect is the deceptive shots... INA's forte for a loonnngg time in the 1970s and 1980s, that is another aspect that many INA coaches are paying attention to... ;) Iie Sumirat and Eddy Hartono are classic examples of INA's "beautiful badminton"...

[badMania]

Actually, even at the INA club levels today, INA players particularly pay attention to the net-play aspect... Many INA coaches at the club level have the opinion that this aspect should be our 'competitive advantage' over the Koreans, Chinese, and Denmark.... Many INA clubs insist that their players spend extra hours on the net game... ;)

Another aspect is the deceptive shots... INA's forte for a loonnngg time in the 1970s and 1980s, that is another aspect that many INA coaches are paying attention to... ;) Iie Sumirat and Eddy Hartono are classic examples of INA's "beautiful badminton"...

Agree......these two aspects strike me the most when I watched the match just now. How many of those pts actually come from Kido's smashes today? I think less than 10-15 :cool: Whereas, JR himself has already commented that the INA pair's net play was really dominant!

[Krisna]

Agree......these two aspects strike me the most when I watched the match just now. How many of those pts actually come from Kido's smashes today? I think less than 10-15 :cool: Whereas, JR himself has already commented that the INA pair's net play was really dominant!

Other things that led to INA getting back on the right track again are due to:

'somewhat' better management [Richard Mainaky leading both XD and WD, better funding as arranged by Pak Sutiyoso, moved Pak Ferial to different a assignment, etc.].
Definitely better and more commited coaches [fired Joko Suprianto, let Hendrawan concentrate on the top MS, moved the troublesome Herry IP to lesser assignments, hired Sigit Pamungkas for the top MD, etc.]... :cool:

[badMania]

Other things that led to INA getting back on the right track again are due to:

'somewhat' better management [Richard Mainaky leading both XD and WD, better funding as arranged by Pak Sutiyoso, moved Pak Ferial to different a assignment, etc.].
Definitely better and more commited coaches [fired Joko Suprianto, let Hendrawan concentrate on the top MS, moved the troublesome Herry IP to lesser assignments, hired Sigit Pamungkas for the top MD, etc.]... :cool:

Oh I see....hmmm...I agree that Joko was useless for MS. Look at Hendrawan's record for Simon and Sony...he has totally uplifted their game and confidence at the moment.

As for Herry IP...I didn't know he was troublesome :cool: So, Sigit Pamungkas is deemed to be a better coach than him? I saw Herry IP coaching Kido/Hendra just now, with Ko Aryono and Yanti Kusmiaty as the coaches for XD.

[Krisna]

Oh I see....hmmm...I agree that Joko was useless for MS. Look at Hendrawan's record for Simon and Sony...he has totally uplifted their game and confidence at the moment.

As for Herry IP...I didn't know he was troublesome :cool: So, Sigit Pamungkas is deemed to be a better coach than him? I saw Herry IP coaching Kido/Hendra just now, with Ko Aryono and Yanti Kusmiaty as the coaches for XD.

Herry IP was successful as the coach of many top INA MD pairs in the past, but later, his negative side [verbally abusive] became an issue with many pairs. In particular, Markis Kido had a huge distaste for Herry... :o I forgot about the details of their rift...

The Pelatnas guys & gals like to gossip about these things, so I heard the stories too... :p Yoke and Yoga had huge issues with Herry IP too... :o

[ye333]

Kido and Hendra really improved a lot I think. They have becoming a joy to watch. If they can keep this form, they will humiliate both CY/FHF and KKK/TBH in the near future, if they met.

I think the MD final is the best of the five. Although it is one-sided, but it is at a very high level.


The last match turned out to be an anti-climax. I expected a close match between the current World Champion and my favorite pair Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan with the former World Champion Lars Paaske/Jonas Rasmussen. We only saw close battle until the score was 16-14 to the Danish pair's advantage. From the onwards, it was one way street for the INA pair. The INA pair took 6 consecutive points to make it 20-16 and then close the first set 21-17.

The second set was almost unbearable to watch as the INA pair really controlled the game from the start. They were able to vary their playing style, such as: switching Hendra to the back as he made some jumping smashes and Kido in front :eek:. There were a number of trick shots and really awesome play by both players such that the Danish pair was rendered helpless and not allowed to regroup. The INA pair won it with Kido's smash (what a way to end it) at 21-12 and this victory means that Kido/Hendra's ranking SHOULD BE NO 1 next week (unless I made some calculation error).

As I have commented before, it's clear that the INA pair DO NOT RELY too much on Kido's attacks lately, esp when facing a top pair. They now have other potent weapons in their arsenal, esp with Hendra's impressive net coverage and trick shots.

I am really eager to watch a match between Kido/Hendra with KKK/TBH as well as Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun!

[samuel882]

Women Single ..:eek:
A thrilling final indeed :)

[ye333]

But what can he do?His racket was twisted like a noodle, there can be no control of the shuttle if he use it to hit.


I know..whats he was thinking??? thats not nice way

[ye333]

Kido and Hendra are playing more and more trickily recently. Hendra did some outrageous deceptive shots in this final. LOL.


Actually, even at the INA club levels today, INA players particularly pay attention to the net-play aspect... Many INA coaches at the club level have the opinion that this aspect should be our 'competitive advantage' over the Koreans, Chinese, and Denmark.... Many INA clubs insist that their players spend extra hours on the net game... ;)

Another aspect is the deceptive shots... INA's forte for a loonnngg time in the 1970s and 1980s, that is another aspect that many INA coaches are paying attention to... ;) Iie Sumirat and Eddy Hartono are classic examples of INA's "beautiful badminton"...

[badMania]

Kido and Hendra really improved a lot I think. They have becoming a joy to watch. If they can keep this form, they will humiliate both CY/FHF and KKK/TBH in the near future, if they met.

I think the MD final is the best of the five. Although it is one-sided, but it is at a very high level.

Indeed....the way they handle the shuttle in front of the net was just top-notch and oozes class! Nice small touches and flicks to deceive their opponents...and once in a while attack from either Kido or Hendra.

Again, I stress that I am really eager to watch them play against KKK/TBH or Fu/Cai, given their new style right now.

[huangkwokhau]

But what can he do?His racket was twisted like a noodle, there can be no control of the shuttle if he use it to hit.
oh..really? I did not see it...:D:D okay,...I forgive him!!!

[ctjcad]

Hi Everyone!

I didnt read all the remarks on the final, only the last few.See you all!

Jonas in Taiwan

I´ve posted this reply in my forum as well so you can go there and answer if you want!

JR
..see, told you Sam that JR could come & show up in this thread-and he did..;):):cool:

Hope he'll show up and chip in more with his observations..:cool:

[pjswift]

They are always good in the second half of the year. In fact, since the China Masters in July, they lost only to Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun (Final) and that match to Luluk/Alvent. I suspected that defeat was pre-arranged so that Luluk/Alvent can get into the Final and eventually won a title (which they failed to do so) :cool:

On Kido/Hendra's form today, there was NO WAY Luluk/Alvent can beat them :rolleyes:
I don't think INA has to do a 'CHN' to decide match. Playing compatriots is different. l/a would be familiar with m/h's game and there's no way hendra can play deceptive shots cos l/a would be aware of it. Pls give l/a some credit. (By the way, luluk has less strapping now so maybe he's playing with more freedom) What I do notice is l/a run out of gas more easily.

[pjswift]

i think it's better to keep TH as ina 2nd ms for the next Thomas cup 2008

TH lost to sony on purpose
Not necessarily. TH ran out of gas like in JO06. If he wants to lose on purpose, why would he need to play 62 mins? Might as well lose in 2 games and catch up on lost shopping time.TH has really shown commitment in defeating LHI in semi.Mind you,this was your man's 11th match in 2 weeks.Can you remember when he last lasted so long? Kudos, TH. And congrats, Sony.

[badMania]

I don't think INA has to do a 'CHN' to decide match. Playing compatriots is different. l/a would be familiar with m/h's game and there's no way hendra can play deceptive shots cos l/a would be aware of it. Pls give l/a some credit. (By the way, luluk has less strapping now so maybe he's playing with more freedom) What I do notice is l/a run out of gas more easily.

Luluk is 28 this year, so, its understable that he runs out of gas easily :D

Well, I am pleased that Luluk/Alvent have begun to show their class again. Beating KKK/TBH and Kido/Hendra in a single week are some feat :cool: I hope they can rediscover their form of 2004 and perhaps win a title (no matter what tournament that is).

With Malaysia team not fielding the top guns in the SEA Games, I hope PBSI will field ONLY Luluk Hadiyanto/Alvent Yulianto and Hendra A. Gunawan/Joko Riyadi in both the Team and Individual events. Rest Kido/Hendra for the Super Series Final! Either one pair should have a great chance of winning the gold medal!

[ailouros]

MS WD WS winners....

Wang Chen is cute!

[Ethan_Brand0]

did Fu and cai play in taipei?
did a lot of the top players not go to this event?

one more question...does anyone have the list of results for the taipei tournament....from round one to the finals....I can't seem to find them anywhere.
thanks

[huangkwokhau]

did Fu and cai play in taipei?
did a lot of the top players not go to this event?

one more question...does anyone have the list of results for the taipei tournament....from round one to the finals....I can't seem to find them anywhere.
thanks
Haiya.....you should go to other threads...everything is there...from withdrawal and result...no one is going to answer again....pls..pls read teh thread..you will have all your answers...;)

[Ethan_Brand0]

Haiya.....you should go to other threads...everything is there...from withdrawal and result...no one is going to answer again....pls..pls read teh thread..you will have all your answers...;)

the only problem is im an internet idiot. There are about 900 threads in this post.....should i read each one to find the link? or is there an easier way?
~internet idiot

[huangkwokhau]

the only problem is im an internet idiot. There are about 900 threads in this post.....should i read each one to find the link? or is there an easier way?
~internet idiot
you are in page 52....go to page 1 and you will see....3 INA ( MD,MS and XD) 1, HK and 1 Tpe ( WD) are winners

[samuel882]

Haiya.....you should go to other threads...everything is there...from withdrawal and result...no one is going to answer again....pls..pls read teh thread..you will have all your answers...;)

I don't think there is a thread about "TEH" - "TEA" in English here ;)

[yeeloon928]

did Fu and cai play in taipei?
did a lot of the top players not go to this event?

one more question...does anyone have the list of results for the taipei tournament....from round one to the finals....I can't seem to find them anywhere.
thanks

i have the result on my blog, from quarter final till final
http://badminton.loonsport.net

[taufik-ist]

the only problem is im an internet idiot. There are about 900 threads in this post.....should i read each one to find the link? or is there an easier way?
~internet idiot

you can googling it.. or use search feature in this forum

[Ethan_Brand0]

you can googling it.. or use search feature in this forum
I don't think it's the question that is dumb, maybe just the asker. Because, I tried both of those things and I was still unable to find the results of the entire tournament from round 1 to the finals, like I had asked. Atleast, not in English. So, I thought I would go to the one website where thousands of badminton fans visit daily and ask them....maybe that was a dumb idea too. Sorry for wasting so much of everyone's time in making you read my clearly ignorant post.
~ashamedly yours
Ethan_Brand0

[taufik-ist]

I don't think it's the question that is dumb, maybe just the asker. Because, I tried both of those things and I was still unable to find the results of the entire tournament from round 1 to the finals, like I had asked. Atleast, not in English. So, I thought I would go to the one website where thousands of badminton fans visit daily and ask them....maybe that was a dumb idea too. Sorry for wasting so much of everyone's time in making you read my clearly ignorant post.
~ashamedly yours
Ethan_Brand0

sorry ethan....
i didn't say you asked a dumb question or you're idiot.. it's my mistake to choose wrong pic.. it should be "search before you post" and if you can't still find the result ,please use another keyword :D :)
don't hesitate to ask another question :D :D

[Ethan_Brand0]

i have the result on my blog, from quarter final till final
http://badminton.loonsport.net
Hey! thanks a lot for the info;) by the way, nice blog! glad you told me about it.
cheers:)

[Ethan_Brand0]

sorry ethan....
i didn't say you asked a dumb question or you're idiot.. it's my mistake to choose wrong pic.. it should be "search before you post" :D :)..
don't hesitate to ask another question :D :D

thanks taufik-ist