Another Walkover China vs China in Semifinal MS

[sjoe]

Any obvious reasons why Chen Hong W/O. One can't help to be cynical.
May be they are genuinely injured but if it has patent then one can't blame someone to be cynical. The patent that I refer here is China vs China Ms Semifinal. May be they should give press conference for they W/O right away.
This why the China players have lost many fans.

[huangkwokhau]

Any obvious reasons why Chen Hong W/O. One can't help to be cynical.
May be they are genuinely injured but if it has patent then one can't blame someone to be cynical. The patent that I refer here is China vs China Ms Semifinal. May be they should give press conference for they W/O right away.
This why the China players have lost many fans.


I f I see him, I will ask him.
Honestly after defeating Ken Limm, he sat next to me and asked him if he was tired...he said" No..I am okay"..next morning, in stadium, he said hello to me....playful with other Taiwanese players and there was no signs that he was injured ...anyway..I cant see from inside...basically I do not know the truth....

[hcyong]

Chen Hong is not under Li Yongbo anymore. No incentive for Chen Hong to intentionally give walkover.

[huangkwokhau]

I f I see him, I will ask him.
Honestly after defeating Ken Limm, he sat next to me and asked him if he was tired...he said" No..I am okay"..next morning, in stadium, he said hello to me....playful with other Taiwanese players and there was no signs that he was injured ...anyway..I cant see from inside...basically I do not know the truth....
I mean I can not see from outside appearance...I wish I could see the match between CH vs CJ:(:(

[Dreamzz]

yeah, it's a shame.
it would have been an interesting game.

[cooler]

Chen Hong is not under Li Yongbo anymore. No incentive for Chen Hong to intentionally give walkover.there's alway incentive for a new theory;)

[samuel882]

Chen Hong give a walkaway !
Same practise even he leave CHN team !:mad:

[chemile]

Chen Hong give a walkaway !
Same practise even he leave CHN team !:mad:

Well I think CH walked out since CJ need more points to retain his rank position and CH won't participate at OR... If it is true, so rudiculuos :(
However, CJ showed good performance in this tournament......

[taufik-ist]

that's why many ppl don't rescpect china team

[llpjlau]

apart from the fact that they keep winning as well, thats why people start despising them.

[sjoe]

apart from the fact that they keep winning as well, thats why people start despising them.

Many people support individual player regardless which country they are from but I guess the Chinese from China team are too nationalist and ignore the sportsmanship. Unless the standard/ethic of sportsmanship that they adopt is different to the majority of fans expectations. I wouldn't easily blame the players.Their mentor, coach, management have to set the standard to what is right and what is wrong. They are responsible in their education to they kids in charge.
If we want to see Badminton as universal and florist as other sports, we must coach our next generation to be more professional and adopt universal code of conduct which are acceptable to everyone.
Remember, fans and supporters are the one keep them alive.

[huangkwokhau]

I did ask Chen Hong this morning in breakfast room.
He said that he did not feel good about his wrist ( if I understand his Mandarin well..hehe)..
I guess that he wont risk it for his next 2 tournaments ( Denmark and French)..
He is leaving today.........he seems very happy and Chen Hong is very very friendly..I did not expect him to chat with me everytime he sees me as my Pu Tung Hua sucks....

[sjoe]

I did ask Chen Hong this morning in breakfast room.
He said that he did not feel good about his wrist ( if I understand his Mandarin well..hehe)..
I guess that he wont risk it for his next 2 tournaments ( Denmark and French)..
He is leaving today.........he seems very happy and Chen Hong is very very friendly..I did not expect him to chat with me everytime he sees me as my Pu Tung Hua sucks....

Apology accepted !. If he would have done this earlier in press conference, it will be much appreciated by fans and supporters.
He almost lost me as his supporter, I use to like Bao but after his W/O to Lin in Malaysian open, He lost my respect. Chen Hong is now back to my list and of course Chen Jin which I regard as to have the better sportsmanship.

[huangkwokhau]

Apology accepted !. If he would have done this earlier in press conference, it will be much appreciated by fans and supporters.
He almost lost me as his supporter, I use to like Bao but after his W/O to Lin in Malaysian open, He lost my respect. Chen Hong is now back to my list and of course Chen Jin which I regard as to have the better sportsmanship.


I can tell you that's a bit diplomatic answer from CH but I would not make a guess anymore....I leave it as it is.....;);)

[ants]

I can tell you that's a bit diplomatic answer from CH but I would not make a guess anymore....I leave it as it is.....;);)

I agree with you. Chen Hong is indeed very friendly.... :)

[ye333]

Making guesses is not meaningful, but it's always CH who gave walkovers this year... What the hell, he will not be able to make top 4 before the Olympics. :(

[Han]

Apology accepted !. If he would have done this earlier in press conference, it will be much appreciated by fans and supporters.
He almost lost me as his supporter, I use to like Bao but after his W/O to Lin in Malaysian open, He lost my respect. Chen Hong is now back to my list and of course Chen Jin which I regard as to have the better sportsmanship.

It has nothing to do with the player as decision to walk is make by the coaches so really no reason to lose respect to Bao. Obviously China want to have as many MS players as possible in Olympic hence must have politely asked Chen Hong to walk. If you're Chen Hong, what can you do? Don't forget Chen Hong is still dreaming to go to Olympic and these coaches opinion weigh a lot in determining his fate ... Even though Chen Hong seems to be the unlikely one to represent China in Olympic but if he can maintain in top 4 ranking then China can't deny him unless the top 4 are all Chinese(only 3 allows in top 4, and 2 allows in top 16) or only 1 Chinese player in top 4 and remaining in top 16. The odd is against Chen Hong regardless, but still there's a slim chance hence Chen Hong agreed the walk

[vching]

Apology accepted !. If he would have done this earlier in press conference, it will be much appreciated by fans and supporters.
He almost lost me as his supporter, I use to like Bao but after his W/O to Lin in Malaysian open, He lost my respect. Chen Hong is now back to my list and of course Chen Jin which I regard as to have the better sportsmanship.

its not the player's fault that the coach Li Yong Bo orders a walkover. If Chen Jin, who has good sportsmanship, was ordered to give a walkover, he cannot refuse. Its not the players. Everything is decided by the coach.

[huangkwokhau]

It has nothing to do with the player as decision to walk is make by the coaches so really no reason to lose respect to Bao. Obviously China want to have as many MS players as possible in Olympic hence must have politely asked Chen Hong to walk. If you're Chen Hong, what can you do? Don't forget Chen Hong is still dreaming to go to Olympic and these coaches opinion weigh a lot in determining his fate ... Even though Chen Hong seems to be the unlikely one to represent China in Olympic but if he can maintain in top 4 ranking then China can't deny him unless the top 4 are all Chinese(only 3 allows in top 4, and 2 allows in top 16) or only 1 Chinese player in top 4 and remaining in top 16. The odd is against Chen Hong regardless, but still there's a slim chance hence Chen Hong agreed the walk
I know what it is..more likely thru conversation from taiwanese players but I am not going to comment it in this forums to spark more debates.......I just wish Chen Hong's happiness...

[sjoe]

It only need someone like Chen Hong's caliber to stand up and says 'No' and go public. After all Chen Hong has nothing to lose. This will save many more youngsters from being manipulated but of course only if the conspiracy does exist. It also will start the debate among Chinese supporters and set a new standard.
Someone with a big heart and conscience which willing to speak the truth against the ruler will start the revolution and be hero of the future.

[pjswift]

No CHN fan will forgive him for being a whistle blower.

[vching]

It only need someone like Chen Hong's caliber to stand up and says 'No' and go public. After all Chen Hong has nothing to lose. This will save many more youngsters from being manipulated but of course only if the conspiracy does exist. It also will start the debate among Chinese supporters and set a new standard.
Someone with a big heart and conscience which willing to speak the truth against the ruler will start the revolution and be hero of the future.


indeed, if chen hong goes public, he will be our hero... but then he can kiss his olympic spot bye bye

[samuel882]

I think CH most probablt will wanna reserve his energy for Denmark Open , that's where all the top players will compete in. In including his main nemesis.. LinDan :p

[ye333]

He has no hope anyway if he keeps doing such walkovers. There are four top Team China MSs, the chance of meeting one of them before the SF is huge.


indeed, if chen hong goes public, he will be our hero... but then he can kiss his olympic spot bye bye

[sjoe]

No CHN fan will forgive him for being a whistle blower.

May be many Chinese fans are also disgusted but just like many, too afraid to be hated by just minority whom are loud enough to justify their ego.
Usually works like this, the guilty party will accuse everyone with very nasty things and very loud. Hope that will shut everyone up and stop criticizing. But if you know that this is not right (which everyone agree) and dare enough to stand up and willing to sacrifice your personal ego, things will eventually change.
We all know that justice will eventually be done but when ? the sooner the better. Just need someone to stand up and be hero.

[sjoe]

I am not talking about Chen Hong anymore now. I have accepted his explanation.
It is now not about badminton only but moral ground. Hope this is only conspiracy.

[xXazn_romeoXx]

chen hong is one of the best in badminton still and has one of the best sportmanship in the sport, i'd doubt he'd give walkovers just like that, even so now that he left the chinese team...candra wijaya left the team, but he is free to do whatever he pleases, and i'm sure we'd like to see more of tony and candra play =P....but i agree that having walkovers lose a possible great match, and i was really looking forward to watching chen hong vs chen jin...chen hong's still got his nice backhand skills and deceptiveness ;)

[abedeng]

One more possibility. Looking at this, other coaches let their players compete with each other freely, possibly CHN coaches are similarly minded.

Maybe these fixups weren't even the CHN coaches' call, a call from someone higher up to the coaches will do the trick. The coaches are probably just messengers.

In any case, I am mad that this is allowed to happen time and again ..... :mad::mad::mad: BWF should do something like a quick forced medical examination to verify any walkouts .....

[xXazn_romeoXx]

One more possibility. Looking at this, other coaches let their players compete with each other freely, possibly CHN coaches are similarly minded.

Maybe these fixups weren't even the CHN coaches' call, a call from someone higher up to the coaches will do the trick. The coaches are probably just messengers.

In any case, I am mad that this is allowed to happen time and again ..... :mad::mad::mad: BWF should do something like a quick forced medical examination to verify any walkouts .....

well you can't really force a player to play, i mean if they feel injured or they feel they can't compete at their highest level, you can't really force them to play just because us fans demand it...even if it wasn't an injury and more of a strategical thing to peak at a better time or save strength for another event (possibly doubles/mixed), it should still be allowed to withdraw and walkover for any reason...albeit sucks to hear and watch this type of thing, but as a player, it's a great option to prevent injuries...

[Jade Imperial]

that's why many ppl don't rescpect china team
many ppl?????

huahahahahhaha