, then, I am 99% sure that we won't get that medal.. because track records showed that Chong Wei tends to buckle under pressure.

did the media pick him? i think it is a little early to actually 'pick' him. might just be speculation, or a goal.

i think this is very very bad. like the All Blacks being favourites to win the Rugby world cup this year, for almost a year in advance. all that hype got into their heads, and they ended up losing in the quarters, to the shock and horror of New Zealand as a whole nation. i remember the next day, the whole mood at school was solemn, and everyone was tense and jittery.

too much pressure, especially from the media, can get into the players heads, and cause them to be over confident or too tense. i don't think this is smart from the malaysian media

Actually,top players will face media pressure in every tournament especially some big event like AE,OG,WC n SS final..LCW is Malaysia no.1,therefore everyone will expect him to win the gold medal..:)

And it will be also false, because currently Lee Chong Wei is not THE favourite, but one of the favourite to win the gold.
That's why lee Chong wei will feel even more pressured ... and could fall since the first rounds =/

This time the Media will slow down on LCW. Anyway he will not be playing in homesoil this time.

if malaysian picks LCW as favourites again.......then YKH better be careful, or any of his coaches, maybe misbun this time, treat LCW nicer or you are gonna get it again like in WC '07..............:D:D:D:D:D

the media kills him all the time, its like a stab from the back

the media picks LD all the time, why doesnt he die then??

the media picks LD all the time, why doesnt he die then??

LinDan does not crumble under pressure,

, then, I am 99% sure that we won't get that medal.. because track records showed that Chong Wei tends to buckle under pressure.
then i`m 100 % sure..:D
but if he really works very hard, no matter what
he will archieve something in the OG08

LCW must find a solution...even the media dont pick him
in malaysia, no more men single is capable of winning a gold
except him....definitely the pressure is on him and he should
not give lame excuse if he dont succeed in OG08... pressure is
always there....

Should our M'sian shuttlers (& be told by their boss BAM or NSC) to FORGET about winning medal in OG08, instead just FOCUS on improving their skills as preparation; producing good games, show the spirit of sportmanship & enjoy every game played in such a pretigious event??

Actually,top players will face media pressure in every tournament especially some big event like AE,OG,WC n SS final..LCW is Malaysia no.1,therefore everyone will expect him to win the gold medal..:)

i dont expect him to win the gold medal :rolleyes:

i dont expect him to win the gold medal :rolleyes:
Erm..maybe i should change the word everyone to especially Mas gov!!:rolleyes::)

did the media pick him? i think it is a little early to actually 'pick' him. might just be speculation, or a goal.

Nahhh, the media didnt pick him. NST pick LCW to win silver due to past records. Better too, since LCW tend to lose early rounds if under pressure.

The government (NSC, Sports Ministry) and media pick KKK/TBH to be best hope for OG gold - they never play in OG before, have won 2 major events (Asian G, All England) since pairing up. LCW never won all of those.

LinDan does not crumble under pressure,
... or maybe, as far as news goes, Lin Dan doesn't do much reading, seeing or hearing :p

On a more serious note, yy_ling is right. :)

Look how easily (each in their respective times) sportspersons like Muhammed Ali, Rudy Hartono, Viswananthan Anand, Jehangir Khan, Donald Bradman, Sachin Tendulkar, Allan Border, Daley Thompson, Ivan Lendl, Morten Frost Hansen, Bjorn Borg, Michel Platini, Michael Jordan, Shaquille O'Neal, Martina Navratilova, Carl Lewis, Sergei Bubka, Roger Federer, Michael Schumacher and Edwin Moses (and many, many others) focused their minds beyond external analysis and peer scrutiny... or pressure from the media, for that matter. :cool:

To take it several steps further, Muhammed Ali and Daley Thompson were among those clever enough to use the media to turn the screws of pressure into their rivals. Ricky Ponting is a modern example. And such a tactic, although downright ugly, is pure genius! :D

On the flip side, sporting history is also littered with those who couldn't take it... Diego Maradona, Ruud Gullit, George Best, Ben Johnson and Asashoryu are but a few examples.

I daresay that, just as it happened with Liem Swie King, external pressures are now beginning to affect Taufik Hidayat. This could be why, although he still has the better game, he can't summon the presence of mind to see himself through against even lesser rivals. :cool:

In this context, I'm reminded of what an actor once said: "If a crowd follows you around, it's quite annoying. But if a crowd doesn't follow you around, it's even more annoying." :D

Regardless of whether it's from the nation, the coaches, the media or just his friends, Lee Chong Wei will need to deal with pressure... or learn to deal with it. The sooner he does that, the better... for what's coming up is not some backyard tournament but the Olympic Games. :)

For sound advice on how not to fear losing, Chong Wei could dial Peter Rasmussen:
- when you stop thinking about winning, you don't think about losing anymore. :)

Pressure is part and parcel of the modern profesional game, he would have to deal with it. To be a true champion… taking pressure is part of the process. Mind over matters :)

Pressure is part and parcel of the modern profesional game, he would have to deal with it. To be a true champion… taking pressure is part of the process. Mind over matters :)

yeah, he should take more multi-vitamin B, i heard it helps to handle the pressure and reducing the stress.

yeah, he should take more multi-vitamin B, i heard it helps to handle the pressure and reducing the stress.
Nah....all you need to remove pressure is for a SWT(sweet young thing) to give some TLC (tender loving care) and sing soothing TLS (tender loving songs) into your ear and lullaby to sleep...hehehe!!:p:D

Nah....all you need to remove pressure is for a SWT(sweet young thing) to give some TLC (tender loving care) and sing soothing TLS (tender loving songs) into your ear and lullaby to sleep...hehehe!!:p:D

and you have missed the last part before getting to sleep?? :D:D:D

and you have missed the last part before getting to sleep?? :D:D:D
You should the prescription I wrote for you above and you will love it, guarantee it...no further pressure left...hehehe!!!:D:p

This time the Media will slow down on LCW. Anyway he will not be playing in homesoil this time.

i think even if the media did not say anything, LCW will still feel the pressure from the expectation of the whole nation. especially when he is winning and people keep expecting him to win all the time. and he might not be playing in malaysia which is his homesoil but he will be playing in China which is lin dan's homesoil. and lin dan dont seem to be bothered by the pressure of playing for his home crowd. so, i wish wish wish, with all my might, that LCW will be ready mentally and physically to reach the finals of the olympics and win it! Go LCW! :D :D:);)

i think this is very very bad. like the All Blacks being favourites to win the Rugby world cup this year, for almost a year in advance. all that hype got into their heads, and they ended up losing in the quarters, to the shock and horror of New Zealand as a whole nation. i remember the next day, the whole mood at school was solemn, and everyone was tense and jittery.

too much pressure, especially from the media, can get into the players heads, and cause them to be over confident or too tense. i don't think this is smart from the malaysian media

the same story with Brazil in WC 06.
favorite in Germany but lost in QF.

i think even if the media did not say anything, LCW will still feel the pressure from the expectation of the whole nation. especially when he is winning and people keep expecting him to win all the time. and he might not be playing in malaysia which is his homesoil but he will be playing in China which is lin dan's homesoil. and lin dan dont seem to be bothered by the pressure of playing for his home crowd. so, i wish wish wish, with all my might, that LCW will be ready mentally and physically to reach the finals of the olympics and win it! Go LCW! :D :D:);)

No need to wish, he will win it with a leg in the air.

No need to wish, he will win it with a leg in the air.

wow, that put a picture in my head :D:p

wow, that put a picture in my head :D:p


LOL, naughty naughty !

aiyo!!! not tha kind of picture le. more like a funny picture. heheheh. :)

the media picks LD all the time, why doesnt he die then??

cuz he is SUPER dan.. hahaha :D

MAS media, please, gives LCW the biggest pressure in OG 08:D

MAS media, please, gives LCW the biggest pressure in OG 08:D

LCW does not read the media coz he is too busy training. Other than that, he is too busy dreaming about his million ringgit and how to spend it -hardly finds time for any pressure, apart from the pressure in his BMW tyres. :D

LCW does not read the media coz he is too busy training. Other than that, he is too busy dreaming about his million ringgit and how to spend it -hardly finds time for any pressure, apart from the pressure in his BMW tyres. :D

dream on, X-Ball!

dream on, X-Ball!

So easily roused by words.:D No problem man, I will dream on if it makes you happy.

No need to wish, he will win it with a leg in the air.

DO you mean LCW will karate his opponent & break his own leg in the process? :D Hard way, have to stay in hospital with leg up in cast....
How many sticks of satay this time? Make it satay celup.

DO you mean LCW will karate his opponent & break his own leg in the process? :D Hard way, have to stay in hospital with leg up in cast....
How many sticks of satay this time? Make it satay celup.

I don't bet with females coz I will lose.:D

Pressure is part and parcel of the modern profesional game, he would have to deal with it. To be a true champion… taking pressure is part of the process. Mind over matters :)

but ... but ... for Malaysian shuttlers, special case must be applied la.

if malaysian picks LCW as favourites again.......then YKH better be careful, or any of his coaches, maybe misbun this time, treat LCW nicer or you are gonna get it again like in WC '07..............:D:D:D:D:D
he had learned.i know he had.

I don't bet with females coz I will lose.:D
mrs.x ball is at home.u may forget her.

n for winston- why are u being so pesimist to malaysians athletes?

i think winston is a die hard China players fans. :) i think it is his prerogative to support or not support whomever he wants. :)

i think winston is a die hard China players fans. :) i think it is his prerogative to support or not support whomever he wants. :)

Love the word 'whomever'.

Love the word 'whomever'.

why thank you. like to use fancy schmancy words now and then. hahahahaha :D

i think winston is a die hard China players fans. :) i think it is his prerogative to support or not support whomever he wants. :)
dont have to be too pesimist at least.
im not supporting indo n china too.
but i didnt use big bolded fonts n say they cant win.yes..i made jokes sometimes n hope they dont hurt anyone.
winston seems hoping us to lose badly.

dont have to be too pesimist at least.
im not supporting indo n china too.
but i didnt use big bolded fonts n say they cant win.yes..i made jokes sometimes n hope they dont hurt anyone.
winston seems hoping us to lose badly.

Winston was not hoping for Msia to lose. It is already a fact Malaysia aint gonna win anything in Beijing.

Let's just let the Beijing Games actually start first and see what happens - there are variables upon variables, not just past records as reference; they are not if ever, accurate indicators of the future.

That's like saying Manchester United will eat Manchester City last Sunday for lunch and dinner - the total opposite happened.

I for one would hope for him to put in his best effort regardless of the result as I don't suffer whimpering exits without a fight.

Let's just let the Beijing Games actually start first and see what happens - there are variables upon variables, not just past records as reference; they are not if ever, accurate indicators of the future.

That's like saying Manchester United will eat Manchester City last Sunday for lunch and dinner - the total opposite happened.

I for one would hope for him to put in his best effort regardless of the result as I don't suffer whimpering exits without a fight.

i agree with you here :D:p

LCW is one of the favourites to win, yes ... but at the same time I don't thinks he can win it. In fact most of the people I meet also share the same opinion. :o

LCW should know this, although there is hopes for him to win the gold, there is a lot of people who doesn't believe that he could do it.

Sorry, not that I had something against him, it's just that I just can't see him winning the OG... err not even the All England actually.:o :o

Hope that I'm wrong though ...:rolleyes:

Past achievements will be taken into account. Like it or not.

For example, in the next coming football world cup in South Africa 2010, definately the usual Brazil, Argentina, Germany, France will start as favourites. Why? Because of their past records. No one in their right mind will say Malaysia or Brunei or Nepal will start as favourites to lift that WC come 2010.

Of course, we will have some upsets once in a while like what happened last Sunday in the Manchester derby. But in the long run, it is still United. Why? Because they have won the league 16 times, FA Cup 11 times and the European Cup 2 times. It is as simple as that.

As such, we can look at all the variables till the cows come home but no matter what, LD is a main contender based on his past records and LCW is doubtful due to his inability to deliver in the big tournaments.

And the coming AE is a good test of LCW's ability to perform in a big tournament.

LCW is one of the favourites to win, yes ... but at the same time I don't thinks he can win it. In fact most of the people I meet also share the same opinion. :o

LCW should know this, although there is hopes for him to win the gold, there is a lot of people who doesn't believe that he could do it.

Sorry, not that I had something against him, it's just that I just can't see him winning the OG... err not even the All England actually.:o :o

Hope that I'm wrong though ...:rolleyes:

I think LCW will have a tough time making the semis of AE let alone winning the Olympic gold in Beijing.

LCW is one of the favourites to win, yes ... but at the same time I don't thinks he can win it. In fact most of the people I meet also share the same opinion. :o

LCW should know this, although there is hopes for him to win the gold, there is a lot of people who doesn't believe that he could do it.

Sorry, not that I had something against him, it's just that I just can't see him winning the OG... err not even the All England actually.:o :o

Hope that I'm wrong though ...:rolleyes:
hope u were wrong.
while expecting them as non-winners in olympic will just bring frustration n sadness to us,why dont we just keep supporting n what happen after that,regard them as a fate.
we wont be ther as players,so just suppport n support.expectation is anther thing.

n wilfred,in man u vs man city match,theres no over-confident stuff there.they have beat us before this season.should we be over confident at this point?beijing n epl is two different cases

hope u were wrong.
while expecting them as non-winners in olympic will just bring frustration n sadness to us,why dont we just keep supporting n what happen after that,regard them as a fate.
we wont be ther as players,so just suppport n support.expectation is anther thing.

n wilfred,in man u vs man city match,theres no over-confident stuff there.they have beat us before this season.should we be over confident at this point?beijing n epl is two different cases

We support Malaysian shuttlers, but we are also realistic at the same time. If can do, we will say can do. We dont build castle in the sky.

Look at the titles won by LCW so far. Compare it with LD or TH. You will see the difference.

Past achievements will be taken into account. Like it or not.
In full agreement with you there but I disagree that it is a reliable indicator of the future. Variables are what will determine what happens in Beijing, not the past. The past is simply a reference without any effect on the present. And there is no future, from the sense of the present (now) as it's not here yet.


What you've actually highlighted about Lin Dan is closer to the present than the past, in which he's still as good (if not better) as he was two years ago. It's from the wind that you can feel in the air, the wave that you can hear from the sea - 'the now'.


This in turn applies to LCW as well - 'the now' suggests that he could do it, and with a dash of luck (all champions need them), he just might.

I dunno mate, you seem to be happier that he can't so that you're proven right about Malaysia's inability to do so? :confused:

i still want to try n tell myself it is possible to get the first gold medal.
realistic is needed when we are talking about the other team.
its malaysia n its just hope.

the question of this thread is when we put pressure on lcw,is he able to win in olympic?

wilfred,im sure pemuda wants us to win.i mean malaysia to win.we are all malaysians.
in certain parts,hes trying to be realistic.maybe dont want to hurt himself if we lost.
hmm..dont doubt his patriotism.i think we shouldnt.

all for one,one for all,malaysians

In full agreement with you there but I disagree that it is a reliable indicator of the future. Variables are what will determine what happens in Beijing, not the past. The past is simply a reference without any effect on the present. And there is no future, from the sense of the present (now) as it's not here yet.


What you've actually highlighted about Lin Dan is closer to the present than the past, in which he's still as good (if not better) as he was two years ago. It's from the wind that you can feel in the air, the wave that you can hear from the sea - 'the now'.

This in turn applies to LCW as well - 'the now' suggests that he could do it, and with a dash of luck (all champions need them), he just might.

I dunno mate, you seem to be happier that he can't so that you're proven right about Malaysia's inability to do so? :confused:

No, you are wrong. I am not happy to be proven right that LCW will fail in Beijing. I am just being realistic. And that is gonna hurt some Malaysia Boleh fans.

Variables aside, LCW just dont have it in him to deliver when it matters most, the big level 1 tournaments. While I believe LCW is strong technically, mentally he is a novice. And this coming AE will be another proof. He will choke again there.

wilfred,im sure pemuda wants us to win.i mean malaysia to win.we are all malaysians.
in certain parts,hes trying to be realistic.maybe dont want to hurt himself if we lost.
hmm..dont doubt his patriotism.i think we shouldnt.

all for one,one for all,malaysians

Typical Malaysian sabre rattling. Its like our culture, eh? Menang sorak, satu kampong tergadai.

My dear, I am sorry to win that Olympic gold, it takes more than chest thumping and cheering out loud.

am i talking about olympic here???

no.its about malaysians.i dont know if u understand my words.

am i talking about olympic here???

no.its about malaysians.i dont know if u understand my words.

This is the Olympics thread, my dear :rolleyes:

Aduh! ... macam mane nak menang tu gold, baca pun boleh salah.
Inilah Malaysia Boleh!

Typical Malaysian sabre rattling. Its like our culture, eh? Menang sorak, satu kampong tergadai.

My dear, I am sorry to win that Olympic gold, it takes more than chest thumping and cheering out loud.You don't think that 'belief' and 'support' is an ingredient equally important in achieving success?

im waiting for ur tergiversation's regarding kkk,hafiz,malaysian athletes,policies,governments.
i hope one day..

tak tau baca??serius punye kes tu.how should i answer my spm papers then??

u know,without hopes,i dont know how should i save my cat from dying in front of my eyes one.its hope n i succeed to have him back in my life.

You don't think that 'belief' and 'support' is an ingredient equally important in achieving success?

The main ingredient is the foundation. If our basics are not right, things are gonna be wishy washy. Again I say, get the right professionals (I mean people who know how to administer and people who know the game) to run BAM (not politicians, lackeys, shady characters like Zakaria Deros). We will have a more solid foundation and a better all round development program where players will be brought in based on merit etc etc. In short, we will have a better pool of quality players.

Now, in Malaysia this is happening. We got money but weak foundation.

'Belief' and 'support' are secondary. Get that foundation right first.

Ok, would love to stay and chat but gotta run to see my boss as I just received news that our PM dissolved Parliament today!!

Malaysia Boleh!:p

Ok, would love to stay and chat but gotta run to see my boss as I just received news that our PM dissolved Parliament today!!
Malaysia Boleh!:p

Suspend trading on the company stocks - it might dip!

pemuda needs something to have the hope alive in his life.
hes not here. i can say anything i want...

help urself pemuda..ur 'little sis' is asking

I think we've drifted off topic here ;)

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