View Full Version : INA vs MAS.......in team event


alfa-2
10-14-2007, 07:56 AM
here's a question.........if there's a men team event between INA n MAS now like thomas cup, who would you bet your money on?? sorry to leave CHN out as no doubt, they will win.

MS
LCW vs TH
HH vs SDK
WCH vs SS

MD
KKK vs MK
LWW vs Alvent

and are there any possible line up other than this?

alfa-2
10-14-2007, 08:07 AM
and dont forget that MAS players tend to fail when they have tremendous perssure on them like in team events.

i'd say MAS have bigger chance in the MD department (2 points there)...... and probably nail another extra point from LCW to secure the win. but will LCW fail us again? WCH seems to be getting back on his form too.......lastly it's HH......well he is him, Mr. yoyo........i better put my hope on a pig to climb a tree (a tall coconut tree) than him securing a point for MAS.

madbad
10-14-2007, 11:19 AM
Can't remember if a team event like TC enforces the line ups by ranking. If it does, then:
LCW v TH - 50:50
WCH v SDK - 52:48
HH or RS v SS - 45:55
KKK/TBH v MK/HS - 60:40
LWW/CTF v MK/HS - 55:45
Based on current form, I would say MAS takes the tie.

INA v CHN:
LD v TH - 50:50
BCL v SDK - 53:47
CJ v SS - 52:48
FHF/CY v MK/HS - 54:46
2nd CHN v MK/HS - 47:53
Match to CHN. However, INA always play well in a team event. I think it could be closer than CHN might want.

MAS v CHN:
LCW v LD - 50:50
WCH v BCL - 49:51
HH or RH v CJ - 44:56
KKK/TBH v FHF/CY - 52:48
LWW/CTF v 2nd CHN - 55:45
Match could swing either way. I think WCH's recent performance could place some doubts on the invincibility of BCL or CJ. I'd take WCH in my team without thinking twice. His experience, mental makeup and fighting spirit (very rare combo for a MAS player) makes him a very important cog in the MAS team.

Jade Imperial
10-14-2007, 09:45 PM
here's a question.........if there's a men team event between INA n MAS now like thomas cup, who would you bet your money on?? sorry to leave CHN out as no doubt, they will win.

MS
LCW vs TH
HH vs SDK
WCH vs SS

MD
KKK vs MK
LWW vs Alvent

and are there any possible line up other than this?

MAS will beat indonesia:
i talk with statistc....
LCW beat TAUFIK often on few last tourney
KKK / TBH beat MK HS
LWW / CTF beat Luluk Alvent

zqloy
10-14-2007, 10:07 PM
I always prefer Msia vs Indonesia in team events rather than playing Korea or Den. Not only the battle btw players on court but also the battle btw fans as well, always full of drama lol!

george@chongwei
10-14-2007, 10:37 PM
INA wil have more advantage becoz they are playing in their home soil..
hard to say...its too early to have a prediction... have to wait for 2008 to know the players performance.....then we can predict the winner in the match....

gary_seeker
10-14-2007, 11:12 PM
i better put my hope on a pig to climb a tree (a tall coconut tree) than him securing a point for MAS.

Man this is so funny hahahahhahahah

weeyet
10-14-2007, 11:46 PM
Malaysia could win the tournament ... but WCH must play 3rd ms lo..

samuel882
10-15-2007, 02:54 AM
Too early for an prediction... :cool:
Players might get injured :rolleyes:
Anyway, INA vs MAS in TC is always be a tense encounter ;)

solidoffence
10-15-2007, 03:02 AM
cool stuff. waiting to see it.

wilfredlgf
10-15-2007, 12:07 PM
Again, I wonder at the ability to come out with such precise approximations (ref: % chances) - '45', '53', '48' etc without taking into account off-court and player's mental and physical condition, more than six months away.

alfa-2
10-15-2007, 08:56 PM
MAS will beat indonesia:
i talk with statistc....
LCW beat TAUFIK often on few last tourney
KKK / TBH beat MK HS
LWW / CTF beat Luluk Alvent

we're taking into account that the rest of the MS of MAS will lose except for LCW. but dont forget 1st MS n MD of MAS always crack under tremendous pressure, and LWW/CTF loves to give the match away though having few match points............:D:D:D

alfa-2
10-15-2007, 10:51 PM
Hafiz is not 2nd MS anymore. I don't think he is even in the Thomas Cup squad.


if HH is not in the squad anymore, who is?? there will no fun without mr.yoyo around........:D:D:D:D:D

i dont think they are going to put LWW/CTF in as 2nd pair though they are only 2nd after kkk/tbh. politics.........like how sidek brothers forced their youngest brother in the thomas cup squad in 1992 though he is not supposed to be in the reserves. Badminton would have been much much a better sport without those political bastards......:cool:

the dwarfs duo might replace lww/ctf. i felt ashamed as a Msian when i looked at these two clowns on court, u do give-me-five kind of thing when you scored an extraodinary points after long rally or amazing saves.........but these 2 clowns simply do it for the fun of it, when opponents made mistakes they do the high five thing, EVEN when they did mistakes and opponents scored a point, they also high five.......:D:D:D:D dumb ***.........

are they retards or what?? i mean high five is meant for when you wanna celebrate something meaningful/worth celebarating, right?? so when does making mistake is something meaningful/worth celebarating in badminton?? :p:p:p:p

vching
10-16-2007, 06:41 AM
what happened to my post :S ?
did I do something wrong???

anyway, I think Rexy will want Choong and Lee to be 2nd MD. No other pair is remotely near them, except for Koo and Tan.

I think MS will be LCW, WCH and someone else.... possibly Tsuen Seng (according to the latest rankings)

danielwong
10-16-2007, 09:50 PM
msia can win in single thru LCW, WCH only....
doubles should win both...

Pemuda
10-16-2007, 11:07 PM
here's a question.........if there's a men team event between INA n MAS now like thomas cup, who would you bet your money on?? sorry to leave CHN out as no doubt, they will win.

MS
LCW vs TH
HH vs SDK
WCH vs SS

MD
KKK vs MK
LWW vs Alvent

and are there any possible line up other than this?

In a big event like Thomas Cup, the Indonesians will be geared up for a fight. I would put my money on the Indonesians winning.

If the venue is KL, I would say the Indonesians will win 3-2. If Jakarta, Indonesia 5-0.

samuel882
10-16-2007, 11:29 PM
If they both meet in the TC (Presuming from Quarterfinals round onwards) , it will be only a 3-0 margin , not 5-0 ;)

wilfredlgf
10-16-2007, 11:42 PM
If the venue is KL, I would say the Indonesians will win 3-2. If Jakarta, Indonesia 5-0.I'm afraid I have to agree with that. However in KL there's still chance to make it 3-2 in Malaysia's favour. Istora Senayan? Whitewash.

jasonmarc
10-17-2007, 12:09 AM
In MS, MAS still have LTS besides the 'Yo-Yo-king'....i think LTS played better lately..so he will be the best choice for 3rd-MS in TC... 2008

Pemuda
10-17-2007, 01:28 AM
If they both meet in the TC (Presuming from Quarterfinals round onwards) , it will be only a 3-0 margin , not 5-0 ;)

Opps ok, if venue is KL, Indons to win 2-1. If in Jakarta, Indons 3-0.

alfa-2
10-17-2007, 02:25 AM
so the vote is = MAS will lose no matter how, right guys?? hehehehhehe............

samuel882
10-17-2007, 02:54 AM
gOOD.. all the pressure went for INA to a MUST win situation :p

koo_fan
10-18-2007, 03:54 AM
In a big event like Thomas Cup, the Indonesians will be geared up for a fight. I would put my money on the Indonesians winning.

If the venue is KL, I would say the Indonesians will win 3-2. If Jakarta, Indonesia 5-0.
yeah good.really good .
why dont u exchange citizenship with jade?
then he can be a malaysian and u can be an indonesian?
hey...just a suggestion.a joke.do not take it into heart.

koo_fan
10-18-2007, 03:59 AM
gOOD.. all the pressure went for INA to a MUST win situation :p
the pressure is on indonesia.
the inferior is on malaysia.
good situation ?think it again.

chandler_k04
10-18-2007, 07:36 AM
I really impressed with malaysian players lately...chong wei , wmc, kkk/TBH..they really performed well lately ...But their performances always poor in big events like Sudirman cup and World championship( in their homeground)...

With Thomas cup will be hold in jakarta....i think indonesian player will beat them. INdonesain player never put pressure on themself....that's why indonesian players more successfull in big events compare to malaysians...

koo_fan
10-18-2007, 09:52 AM
I really impressed with malaysian players lately...chong wei , wmc, kkk/TBH..they really performed well lately ...But their performances always poor in big events like Sudirman cup and World championship( in their homeground)...

With Thomas cup will be hold in jakarta....i think indonesian player will beat them. INdonesain player never put pressure on themself....that's why indonesian players more successfull in big events compare to malaysians...
ur opinions are ur authorithy.i cannot say anything about that.
But tell me what indo have achieve this year?u won Wc by MK/hs .yes.what else???
thomas cup will be hold in indo.are u sure u can beat malaysia?do not be so sure.

taufik-ist
10-19-2007, 03:19 AM
Opps ok, if venue is KL, Indons to win 2-1. If in Jakarta, Indons 3-0.
ooooopsss
it should be indonesian... too sensitive :D :D

koo_fan
10-19-2007, 05:09 AM
ooooopsss
it should be indonesian... too sensitive :D :D
can i know why my brother?any reasons?

taufik-ist
10-19-2007, 05:30 AM
can i know why my brother?any reasons?

hhmmmm i'm surprised you don't know term 'indons' in malaysia... it's a bad call for indonesian in malaysia

koo_fan
10-19-2007, 05:38 AM
hhmmmm i'm surprised you don't know term 'indons' in malaysia... it's a bad call for indonesian in malaysia
honestly,it is up to individuals.I have never look down on indonesians in my country.the term indons means indonesians.Its just that.
unless they did something bad in my country.then i decide to dislike them.
we are neighbours right?do not take it into heart.If u feel uneasy with this term,ok.we will not use it anymore.

taufik-ist
10-19-2007, 05:47 AM
honestly,it is up to individuals.I have never look down on indonesians in my country.the term indons means indonesians.Its just that.
unless they did something bad in my country.then i decide to dislike them.
we are neighbours right?do not take it into heart.If u feel uneasy with this term,ok.we will not use it anymore.

he..he don't be too serious :D....

chandler_k04
10-19-2007, 09:21 AM
ur opinions are ur authorithy.i cannot say anything about that.
But tell me what indo have achieve this year?u won Wc by MK/hs .yes.what else???
thomas cup will be hold in indo.are u sure u can beat malaysia?do not be so sure.

I am sure ina can beat malaysia, but i will not shock if mas beat ina in thomas. Fact that ina always performs better than mas in big events makes me think that ina will have a bigger chance to win, if both team meet in team event, especially if the match hold in Indonesia.

vching
10-20-2007, 12:15 PM
i think Malaysia has no chance of winning the thomas cup in 2008, and I would be really suprised if they even made it to the final rounds (QF onwards)

now they are the underdog and they will win :D :D :D

taufik-ist
10-20-2007, 12:26 PM
i think Malaysia has no chance of winning the thomas cup in 2008, and I would be really suprised if they even made it to the final rounds (QF onwards)

now they are the underdog and they will win :D :D :D

ha..ha you are applying reverse psycology :D :D

alfa-2
10-20-2007, 12:38 PM
i think Malaysia has no chance of winning the thomas cup in 2008, and I would be really suprised if they even made it to the final rounds (QF onwards)

now they are the underdog and they will win :D :D :D

the reverse psychology way should be MAS will always be the loser.........until they lift the cup again..........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

TH_4_President
10-21-2007, 02:02 AM
the pressure is on indonesia.
the inferior is on malaysia.
good situation ?think it again.

For Indonesians, pressure means "Coal to burn the fire", if Malaysian players hate pressure (see what LCW said after his failure in WC in KL), Indonesians can like both, pressure and being "black horses" :D:D:D:D

wilfredlgf
10-21-2007, 05:10 AM
This is starting to come around in circles; my team will beat your team, no my team will be yours, oh yeah mine is better than yours, no way mine is the best.

taufik-ist
10-21-2007, 05:15 AM
This is starting to come around in circles; my team will beat your team, no my team will be yours, oh yeah mine is better than yours, no way mine is the best.

don't complain just enjoy it :D...

alfa-2
10-21-2007, 08:09 AM
yeah, that's right...........:D:D:D:D:D

wilfredlgf
10-21-2007, 09:55 AM
Whatever that amuses you lot, I suppose.

taufik-ist
10-21-2007, 10:09 AM
this thread title is ina vs mas.... in team event,
so there must be 2 polars here :) :)