Knee injury could derail Chong Wei’s French campaign
The star online (http://www.thestar.com.my/sports/story.asp?file=/2007/10/29/sports/19309315&sec=sports)


PETALING JAYA: A knee injury is threatening to throw shuttler Lee Chong Wei off track in his bid to chalk up consistently good results on the international stage.
Singles coach Misbun Sidek said that the pain affected the national number one in his defeat by China's Bao Chunlai in the semi-finals of the Danish Open on Saturday.
And to ensure that his condition would not worsen, Misbun said that Chong Wei would have to be cautious in his approach in the French Open which begins on Wednesday in Paris.
“There was pain in his knee before the match against Chunlai but it was bearable,” said Misbun in a telephone interview from Odense yesterday.
“However, he aggravated it during the second game. After that, Chong Wei slowed down and could not keep up with the pace.
“Immediately after the match, Chong Wei had to use an ice pack on his knee. We have two days more before the French Open and I hope there is enough time for him to recover.”
Misbun, however, was happy with Chong Wei's overall performances.
“I was most satisfied with his win over Sony (Dwi Kuncoro of Indonesia in the quarter-finals). That win meant a lot to him, especially after his disastrous defeat by Sony in the World Championships,” he said.
Chong Wei is the second seed in the French Open and he will play against Danish veteran Kenneth Jonassen in the first round. If he advances, he is likely to play against Indonesian Simon Santoso, a player whom he lost to in the quarter-finals of the Taiwan Open last month.

I was wondering why LCW rallied so much in the 2nd and 3rd sets instead of his usual speed, attack and cross-court smash game plan...now we know it was a knee injury that prevent LCW from playing his usual game plan...anyway it was a win for Bao but the runner-up saga continues...

The pain only showed up after beating Sony, but before losing to Bao... YEAH...what a coincidence... :rolleyes:

The pain only showed up after beating Sony, but before losing to Bao... YEAH...what a coincidence... :rolleyes:


oh stop being such a pessimist :)

It explains why there were no jumping smashes --- he was rallying most of the times.

Very lucky for BAO coz I did not think he had a chance after the way LCW finished him off in the 1st game. I was very puzzled why LCW rallied so much and did not finish BAO off with the usual 'one-two', which he is famous of (one-two means a smash followed by another).

Now I know.

oh stop being such a pessimist :)

I would not worry too much about him -- he is a 'banana' case.

oh stop being such a pessimist :)

This coming from the dude with the suppose "secret" of the darkness within the China team...:rolleyes:

I think he should lay off for a while...he could end up with a serious injury which can put him away for life. Normally with jumping type sport, e.g. badminton, basketball, volleyball, the joints are hammered by all the furious jumping.

It explains why there were no jumping smashes --- he was rallying most of the times.

Very lucky for BAO coz I did not think he had a chance after the way LCW finished him off in the 1st game. I was very puzzled why LCW rallied so much and did not finish BAO off with the usual 'one-two', which he is famous of (one-two means a smash followed by another).

Now I know.

Of course, you will agree to this, as this helps you find your comfort zone after the loss of LCW... plus you don't even need to come up with an excuse yourself... someone doing the dirty work for you.:rolleyes:

"I win, I am in perform form... I lose, I am injured"... yeah... that's right.:rolleyes:

Yeah... perhaps, if he is really injured, and worried about hurting himself some more.. why not just withdrew at the beginning? Don't tell me that it is about sportsmanship, which is a load of crap... since you will be forcing yourself to forfeit if you are lucky enough to get through to the final with the injury.

Of course, you will agree to this, as this helps you find your comfort zone after the loss of LCW... plus you don't even need to come up with an excuse yourself... someone doing the dirty work for you.:rolleyes:

"I win, I am in perform form... I lose, I am injured"... yeah... that's right.:rolleyes:

Yeah... perhaps, if he is really injured, and worried about hurting himself some more.. why not just withdrew at the beginning? Don't tell me that it is about sportsmanship, which is a load of crap... since you will be forcing yourself to forfeit if you are lucky enough to get through to the final with the injury.


May I suggest you have 'selected reading' habits -- it was stated he injured himself in the 2nd by his coach. The 1st game he gave BAO a 'whacking' !

Are you telling me Misbun lied to the Press -- that it was not true what he said about the injury ?

May I suggest you have 'selected reading' habits -- it was stated he injured himself in the 2nd by his coach. The 1st game he gave BAO a 'whacking' !

Are you telling me Misbun lied to the Press -- that it was not true what he said about the injury ?


Selective Reading huhhh... here it is directly from the article...

“There was pain in his knee before the match against Chunlai but it was bearable,” said Misbun in a telephone interview from Odense yesterday.

May I suggest some "reading night class" for you... Preferably English.:rolleyes:

Should I sound like Vching... and tell you that I have some secret source about this so-called injury of LCW.. then I can't tell you this secret until the time is right...

Never mind, I am out of here... have better things to do.

Never mind, I am out of here... have better things to do.

those 2 brags alot of how much they know but if u look back at their past prediction,, it is a sad dismal shameful record. When they're back into a corner from logical facts, they would resort to calling people names. That's how flaming posts get started.

I was watching the match, and it seemed to me that LCW ran out of steam towards the end of the second game and throughout the third game. My initial thought was that he was overconfident and he went all out to take the second game, but Bao was able to withstand the pressure.

In the third game, LCW was flat (in instances where he usually made leaping smashes he didn't), and it was Bao who attacked, which is pretty unusual in Bao vs LCW matches. Until I read this article, I thought that LCW used the wrong strategy and exhausted himself. LCW being injured (whether real or not, excuse or reason) in the knee makes sense to me.

It's too early to conclude. Let's wait and see. If LCW played fast and furious in French Open, then pretty sure this is just an excuse (although I don't see any reason to have such an excuse, this is not LCW's first loss to BCL, nor the most important loss either). Otherwise pretty sure he was indeed injured, since only a moron would deliberately miss a superseries event in this way. Besides LCW is already in Europe, it's a big waste of money if he does not play in French Open.

After watching the SF, I think BCL just played normal, if not below normal (thus no wonder he was then toyed by LD in the final). BCL was horrible in the 1st game, LCW OK. Then in the 2nd and 3rd games LCW kind of below par, BCL normal. It's not a high-quality match, with both players committing tons of errors, and not much fighting spirit in either of them.

Of course, Bao did play very well (especially those sharp drops) although he exhausted himself in the process also.

Selective Reading huhhh... here it is directly from the article...

“There was pain in his knee before the match against Chunlai but it was bearable,” said Misbun in a telephone interview from Odense yesterday.

May I suggest some "reading night class" for you... Preferably English.:rolleyes:

Should I sound like Vching... and tell you that I have some secret source about this so-called injury of LCW.. then I can't tell you this secret until the time is right...


“However, he aggravated it during the second game. After that, Chong Wei slowed down and could not keep up with the pace. ....", quote Misbun in the Press release.

This is why I said you have 'selected reading' because you refuse to read this following statement that was printed after the statement you stated above, which you used conveniently to argue your point.

those 2 brags alot of how much they know but if u look back at their past prediction,, it is a sad dismal shameful record. When they're back into a corner from logical facts, they would resort to calling people names. That's how flaming posts get started.

I hope those '2' do not include me ?

“However, he aggravated it during the second game. After that, Chong Wei slowed down and could not keep up with the pace. ....", quote Misbun in the Press release.

This is why I said you have 'selected reading' because you refuse to read this following statement that was printed after the statement you stated above, which you used conveniently to argue your point.

Oh...okay... so you didn't selectively read my post... then here you go again... directly from my previous post...:rolleyes:


Yeah... perhaps, if he is really injured, and worried about hurting himself some more.. why not just withdrew at the beginning? Don't tell me that it is about sportsmanship, which is a load of crap... since you will be forcing yourself to forfeit if you are lucky enough to get through to the final with the injury.

While the Malaysian WD withdrew as soon as the first sign of an injury during the second game... the Malaysian MS decides to continue while being injured. Knowing that it is much tougher to play a Singles game compare to a doubles game bearing injury... Lee Chong Wei somehow manages to finish off the game and playing injured for about 40 minutes, not worry about hurting himself some more... Yeah... all this makes a whole heck a lot of sense.:rolleyes:

If it wasn't going to be use as an "excuse", why not just keep it a secret between the coach and LCW themselves, but to let everyone else know about it, so they can now exploit on this so-called "injury"... The reason is simple, just so they can have an easy way out when LCW loses in the French open, too.:eek:

hope that lee chong wei can recover as fast as possible

While the Malaysian WD withdrew as soon as the first sign of an injury during the second game... the Malaysian MS decides to continue while being injured. Knowing that it is much tougher to play a Singles game compare to a doubles game bearing injury... Lee Chong Wei somehow manages to finish off the game and playing injured for about 40 minutes, not worry about hurting himself some more... Yeah... all this makes a whole heck a lot of sense.:rolleyes:

If it wasn't going to be use as an "excuse", why not just keep it a secret between the coach and LCW themselves, but to let everyone else know about it, so they can now exploit on this so-called "injury"... The reason is simple, just so they can have an easy way out when LCW loses in the French open, too.:eek:


You are either hard-core stubborn or you don't listen very well (I would think you are the latter).

The article quoted Misbun saying that it was bearable to play and it was only in the 2nd game that he suffered and could not play to his optimum. GET THAT INTO YOUR THICK SKULL.

Selective Reading huhhh... here it is directly from the article...

“There was pain in his knee before the match against Chunlai but it was bearable,” said Misbun in a telephone interview from Odense yesterday.

May I suggest some "reading night class" for you... Preferably English.:rolleyes:

Should I sound like Vching... and tell you that I have some secret source about this so-called injury of LCW.. then I can't tell you this secret until the time is right...

oh my oh my... bananakid seems determined to bring up past events...he is determined to make this friendly thread into one that eventually gets blocked.... get a life bananakid... Like I said, I stick to the fact that have the information but I cannot release it yet....

Never mind, I am out of here... have better things to do.

then get out of here.... flaming posts are UNINVITED... so why are you still coming back? go away!

those 2 brags alot of how much they know but if u look back at their past prediction,, it is a sad dismal shameful record. When they're back into a corner from logical facts, they would resort to calling people names. That's how flaming posts get started.

agreed

Oh...okay... so you didn't selectively read my post... then here you go again... directly from my previous post...:rolleyes:


Yeah... perhaps, if he is really injured, and worried about hurting himself some more.. why not just withdrew at the beginning? Don't tell me that it is about sportsmanship, which is a load of crap... since you will be forcing yourself to forfeit if you are lucky enough to get through to the final with the injury.

i thought you were getting out of here?

While the Malaysian WD withdrew as soon as the first sign of an injury during the second game... the Malaysian MS decides to continue while being injured. Knowing that it is much tougher to play a Singles game compare to a doubles game bearing injury... Lee Chong Wei somehow manages to finish off the game and playing injured for about 40 minutes, not worry about hurting himself some more... Yeah... all this makes a whole heck a lot of sense.:rolleyes:

If it wasn't going to be use as an "excuse", why not just keep it a secret between the coach and LCW themselves, but to let everyone else know about it, so they can now exploit on this so-called "injury"... The reason is simple, just so they can have an easy way out when LCW loses in the French open, too.:eek:

still coming back for more? why can't you give LCW the benefit of the doubt?

Where is your logic? LCW leads 1:0 and had serious chance to win the whole match. Who would withdrew in that circumstance? Malaysian WD, even if they were not injured, have little chance to win. Of course they chose to withdraw.

Remember LD chose to play on for a few points against Simon in Swiss Open even though he already lost the first game and only withdrew when there was absolutely no hope to win?

If LCW were facing LD, I think he might choose to withdraw as soon as the pain began to seriously affect his game. But it's BCL, the guy he usually beats with ease... :cool:

While the Malaysian WD withdrew as soon as the first sign of an injury during the second game... the Malaysian MS decides to continue while being injured. Knowing that it is much tougher to play a Singles game compare to a doubles game bearing injury... Lee Chong Wei somehow manages to finish off the game and playing injured for about 40 minutes, not worry about hurting himself some more... Yeah... all this makes a whole heck a lot of sense.:rolleyes:

If it wasn't going to be use as an "excuse", why not just keep it a secret between the coach and LCW themselves, but to let everyone else know about it, so they can now exploit on this so-called "injury"... The reason is simple, just so they can have an easy way out when LCW loses in the French open, too.:eek:

hope that lee chong wei can recover as fast as possible

yeah, he will recover so fast, that the next headline after the French open will be "Super badminton player won mens singles title with an injured knee"... BY BANANAKID!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The national #1 shuttler Lee Chong Wei managed to overcome all odds, and won the French open (10th leg of the super series) mens singles title. Chong Wei suffered an injury during his match with China's Bao ChunLai, made an outstanding effort and speedy recovery of his injury to claim his 3rd super series title, just 1 title short of world #1 Lin Dan of China.

Doctors were impressed with how fast Lee Chong Wei could recover from such injury, and no scientific explanation could be made regarding his amazing recovery. Only explanation would be the prayer of the fans, and the blessing Chong Wei received from his great personality.

Note: This is not a serious article and for joke purpose only!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I apologise to all for entertaining Bananakid's post.

Where is your logic? LCW leads 1:0 and had serious chance to win the whole match. Who would withdrew in that circumstance? Malaysian WD, even if they were not injured, have little chance to win. Of course they chose to withdraw.

Remember LD chose to play on for a few points against Simon in Swiss Open even though he already lost the first game and only withdrew when there was absolutely no hope to win?

If LCW were facing LD, I think he might choose to withdraw as soon as the pain began to seriously affect his game. But it's BCL, the guy he usually beats with ease... :cool:

Does Bao suck so bad, that LCW thinks that he can win with an injury??? Poor Bao...

Still, assume what you said is right, but it doesn't explain why this injury needs to be told to everyone, and not keep it as a secret??? Now, all of LCW's potential opponent will exploit on it... does that even make any sense???

the 2 i was referring to is vching and xball in this thread:rolleyes:

the 2 i was referring to is vching and xball in this thread:rolleyes:

Even Vching himself agreed with your point of view(from post#23)... not much more you should ask for, cooler...:D

the 2 i was referring to is vching and xball in this thread:rolleyes:

To tell you the truth you are no sweet heart of mine either.

the 2 i was referring to is vching and xball in this thread:rolleyes:

should have known it is too good to be true for you to be sensible for once...

I didn't start anything. It was bananakid that said that LCW was faking it. you seem to have double standards for every player. When I say China is cheating, with blatant evidence and repeated offences, you say that it is not possible, and I'm exagurating. When bananakid comes out with one seculative theory, you support him and say that I have been cornered with evidence. What evidence? Bananakid has no evidence! So much for being the moral centre of BC.

Predictions are PREDICTIONS. they are not meant to be 100% accurate. I can't see into the future, and the predictions are just made for fun... I didn't say that my predictions are 100% accurate!

cooler, you too should get a life....

Even Vching himself agreed with your point of view(from post#23)... not much more you should ask for, cooler...:D

when cooler was accusing this person of being cornered by evidence, I naturally assumed he was talking about you, because you are the one with no evidence here.... I see that cooler is contradicting everything he says now!

oh my oh my... bananakid seems determined to bring up past events...he is determined to make this friendly thread into one that eventually gets blocked.... get a life bananakid... Like I said, I stick to the fact that have the information but I cannot release it yet....

This is coming from someone who writes pages of non-sense everyday of a tournament schedule



then get out of here.... flaming posts are UNINVITED... so why are you still coming back? go away!

This is coming from someone who made unproven accusation of the Chinese team


agreed
me, too.



i thought you were getting out of here?
My fault for coming back, but I just feel like coming back... sorry for eating my own words...LOL



still coming back for more? why can't you give LCW the benefit of the doubt?

The same reason why you don't give team China the benefit of a doubt even though you can not provide your so-called evidence(secret)

when cooler was accusing this person of being cornered by evidence, I naturally assumed he was talking about you, because you are the one with no evidence here.... I see that cooler is contradicting everything he says now!

Where is Misbun's evidence then??? How am I back into the corner, when the whole time I am explaining why I disagree with the so-called injury while you and X-ball are calling me names(eg. "banana" case, or thick skull) when you guys can not make a legitimate argument.:rolleyes:

should have known it is too good to be true for you to be sensible for once...

I didn't start anything. It was bananakid that said that LCW was faking it. you seem to have double standards for every player. When I say China is cheating, with blatant evidence and repeated offences, you say that it is not possible, and I'm exagurating. When bananakid comes out with one seculative theory, you support him and say that I have been cornered with evidence. What evidence? Bananakid has no evidence! So much for being the moral centre of BC.

Predictions are PREDICTIONS. they are not meant to be 100% accurate. I can't see into the future, and the predictions are just made for fun... I didn't say that my predictions are 100% accurate!

cooler, you too should get a life....

Double standard...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: You believe everything is true regarding team Malaysia, but you claim team China is doing bad things without providing your so-called secret evidence...

How would you like me to tell you this... I have proof that this injury is not real, but I just can't share with you, and I can't tell you the source.:rolleyes:

So I guess if you were LCW, you would happily gave up when you were leading 1:0 and having a close 2nd game...

Simple answer to your question: Malaysian newspaper asked Misbun what the hell happened, why LCW sucked during the 2nd and 3rd games after beating the hell out of BCL in the 1st, so Misbun gave them this ready answer. Misbun feels better, Malaysian fans feels better. Why bother keep it secret? What's the benefit? How could LCW's opponents exploit it if LCW choose to pass French Open?

Does Bao suck so bad, that LCW thinks that he can win with an injury??? Poor Bao...

Still, assume what you said is right, but it doesn't explain why this injury needs to be told to everyone, and not keep it as a secret??? Now, all of LCW's potential opponent will exploit on it... does that even make any sense???

Misbun does not need to provide any evidence. Does LD give any evidence of injury when he gave up in Swiss open?

Where is Misbun's evidence then??? How am I back into the corner, when the whole time I am explaining why I disagree with the so-called injury while you and X-ball are calling me names(eg. "banana" case, or thick skull) when you guys can make a legitimate argument.:rolleyes:

So I guess if you were LCW, you would happily gave up when you were leading 1:0 and having a close 2nd game...

Simple answer to your question: Malaysian newspaper asked Misbun what the hell happened, why LCW sucked during the 2nd and 3rd games after beating the hell out of BCL in the 1st, so Misbun gave them this ready answer. Misbun feels better, Malaysian fans feels better. Why bother keep it secret? What's the benefit? How could LCW's opponents exploit it if LCW choose to pass French Open?

Directly from the article...
“Immediately after the match, Chong Wei had to use an ice pack on his knee. We have two days more before the French Open and I hope there is enough time for him to recover.”

Does that sound like LCW is going to withdraw from French open to you?


Okay, so you are not willing to forfeit now, but probably will withdraw before the final starts the next day(due to worry about hurting some more)... so playing the additional 5 to 10 minutes to earn the additional 1200+ ranking points, or the additional couple thousands dollars means more than LCW's health...

What about the 3rd game??? Could have withdrew then??? now, could he???

Misbun does not need to provide any evidence. Does LD give any evidence of injury when he gave up in Swiss open?

At least he withdrew, and he was examined by a doctor in front of the audience. He didn't finish the game, then have his coach claimed that he didn't lose due to his opponent beat him, but he was injured, so his opponent was spared from a defeat. That is a big difference.

Yes there is a big difference. LCW finished his game. Therefore there is no need to have a doctor to check him because whether he was injured is his own business now.

Seems you don't even know why there should be a doctor to check LD... You think it's about his opponent? LOL.

At least he withdrew, and he was examined by a doctor in front of the audience. He didn't finish the game, then have his coach claimed that he didn't lose due to his opponent beat him, but he was injured, so his opponent was spared from a defeat. That is a big difference.

This is coming from someone who writes pages of non-sense everyday of a tournament schedule





This is coming from someone who made unproven accusation of the Chinese team



me, too.




My fault for coming back, but I just feel like coming back... sorry for eating my own words...LOL





The same reason why you don't give team China the benefit of a doubt even though you can not provide your so-called evidence(secret)

you are saying this so called fake injury is more serious than China's alleged cheatings, which I didn't bring up, but you and your gang?

Misbun dosen't have to provide any evidence. Innocent until proven guilty. You don't have evidence to support your claims that LCW is making this up, so why should misbun respond?

About your cheap attack on my blog, I quote one of my readers: I like it Kerching.

Don't listen to those two monkeys !!


if you think my writing is nonsense, maybe you should examine your own writings....

Where is Misbun's evidence then??? How am I back into the corner, when the whole time I am explaining why I disagree with the so-called injury while you and X-ball are calling me names(eg. "banana" case, or thick skull) when you guys can not make a legitimate argument.:rolleyes:

again, i refer to the point i made earlier. Misbun does not need to provide evidence, YOU have to if you're accusing him. He has a presumption of innocence.

Double standard...:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: You believe everything is true regarding team Malaysia, but you claim team China is doing bad things without providing your so-called secret evidence...

How would you like me to tell you this... I have proof that this injury is not real, but I just can't share with you, and I can't tell you the source.:rolleyes:

haha, so you think that there is more evidence of LCW's cheating than China's cheatings?

Misbun does not need to provide any evidence. Does LD give any evidence of injury when he gave up in Swiss open?

absolutely agree. both players do not need to provide anything.

Directly from the article...
“Immediately after the match, Chong Wei had to use an ice pack on his knee. We have two days more before the French Open and I hope there is enough time for him to recover.”

Does that sound like LCW is going to withdraw from French open to you?


Okay, so you are not willing to forfeit now, but probably will withdraw before the final starts the next day(due to worry about hurting some more)... so playing the additional 5 to 10 minutes to earn the additional 1200+ ranking points, or the additional couple thousands dollars means more than LCW's health...

What about the 3rd game??? Could have withdrew then??? now, could he???

LCW's reasons are not up to your scrutiny. He dosen't need to answer to you.

At least he withdrew, and he was examined by a doctor in front of the audience. He didn't finish the game, then have his coach claimed that he didn't lose due to his opponent beat him, but he was injured, so his opponent was spared from a defeat. That is a big difference.
So you think LCW should have staged a public exhibition for him to be examined by a doctor? Its enough that he has given a reason, he is under no obligation to be examined by a doctor publicly. He has privacy you know...

Where is the peace maker????

Shud i call UN peace making troop here???

I think we all should accept the fact that LCW lost to BCL. Instead of bashing here, y don't we pay respect to both players who fight till the end on court?

vching,

you should be the last one on the planet to say "innocent until proven guilty"... so are you telling me that team China is also innocent from your accusation as well...:confused:


Regarding your blog, it is always like cheer leading the Malaysia team... how hard is it to find a fellow Malaysian fan to like it? Seriously...:rolleyes:

Peacemaker???

In case, you wonder why I am acting all angry and stuff, refer to post#6.

Well, all I can conclude is that you would happily withdraw. But there are athletes who choose not to. For example, Sigit in 2003 WC, Sun Jun in 1997 WC, and so on. I am just saying it is understandable that LCW chose not to withdraw. It's not an absurd decision. Furthermore no one said it is a serious injury that may cost his career or anything like that, it just kept LCW from performing in his peak form. It's like Dong Jiong was not playing his best due to not sleeping well before OG final. No big deal.

Also what does "I hope there is enough time for him to recover" mean? Doesn't there mean there is a fair chance of LCW missing French Open?

In 06 AG, LD said he lost to LHI because he had been thinking too much about the singles event. Any comment? Is that a lame excuse?

Directly from the article...
“Immediately after the match, Chong Wei had to use an ice pack on his knee. We have two days more before the French Open and I hope there is enough time for him to recover.”

Does that sound like LCW is going to withdraw from French open to you?


Okay, so you are not willing to forfeit now, but probably will withdraw before the final starts the next day(due to worry about hurting some more)... so playing the additional 5 to 10 minutes to earn the additional 1200+ ranking points, or the additional couple thousands dollars means more than LCW's health...

What about the 3rd game??? Could have withdrew then??? now, could he???

In 06 AG, LD said he lost to LHI because he had been thinking too much about the singles event. Any comment? Is that a lame excuse?

Of course, that is a lame excuse, there is no doubt about that. Why the heck would you be thinking about something else other than the game you are playing at the moment.
Lin Dan was playing like crap in that game... (well, still a lot better than me:p though... still playing like crap from a top professional stand point)

vching,

you should be the last one on the planet to say "innocent until proven guilty"... so are you telling me that team China is also innocent from your accusation as well...:confused:


Regarding your blog, it is always like cheer leading the Malaysia team... how hard is it to find a fellow Malaysian fan to like it? Seriously...:rolleyes:

the fan was from britain ;) so you're telling me its a crime to cheer for malaysia now?

If you want to resort to personal attacks, then at least do it with respect, don't keep bringing up my accusations of China.

In the case of China, there were multiple walkovers, allegations from HK coaches, allegations from media, allegations from other players. This Lee incident has no evidence. Only you. yeah. Only you.

the fan was from britain ;) so you're telling me its a crime to cheer for malaysia now?

If you want to resort to personal attacks, then at least do it with respect, don't keep bringing up my accusations of China.

In the case of China, there were multiple walkovers, allegations from HK coaches, allegations from media, allegations from other players. This Lee incident has no evidence. Only you. yeah. Only you.

From Britain... so he/she can't be Malaysian then...:confused:
wow... personal attacks... did I call you any name so far? I was called a "banana" case, and other stuff in this thread... when did I call you anything like that?:confused:

Everything has a start, and this Lee incident can be a start, too.. now can't it... LOL.:p

Well, humanbeings do that. That's why you hear coaches saying to their players "concentrate on the current point!" all the time.

Maybe you are a god or an alien? :D

Why the heck would you be thinking about something else other than the game you are playing at the moment.

vching,

you should be the last one on the planet to say "innocent until proven guilty"... so are you telling me that team China is also innocent from your accusation as well...:confused:


Regarding your blog, it is always like cheer leading the Malaysia team... how hard is it to find a fellow Malaysian fan to like it? Seriously...:rolleyes:

From Britain... so he/she can't be Malaysian then...:confused:
wow... personal attacks... did I call you any name so far? I was called a "banana" case, and other stuff in this thread... when did I call you anything like that?:confused:

Everything has a start, and this Lee incident can be a start, too.. now can't it... LOL.:p

if this is a start as you accuse it to be, then you shouldn't start accusing Lee so early. This is not like China, who had repeated walkovers etc etc etc... So if you're saying its the start, why not wait for more evidence before accusing Lee?

personal attacks? any attack on my blog (by calling it nonsense) is a personal attack

ps: the reader was not related to Malaysia in any way. He enjoyed reading my analysis.... if this is something you can't do, don't read it!

Well, humanbeings do that. That's why you hear coaches saying to their players "concentrate on the current point!" all the time.

Maybe you are a god or an alien? :D
no.... he is a BANANA!!! :D :D

Well, humanbeings do that. That's why you hear coaches saying to their players "concentrate on the current point!" all the time.

Maybe you are a god or an alien? :D

You may consider me an alien...LOL:p

I am just saying that Lin Dan made an excuse for his loss...or whoever said it made an excuse for him...

I didn't say that I wouldn't be thinking about something else during a tournament match... in fact, the last tournament I played in(September 30, 2007), I was thinking about how I was going to knock my partner out cold, if he would make his 6th service fault in one match.:p

You may consider me an alien...LOL:p

I am just saying that Lin Dan made an excuse for his loss...or whoever said it made an excuse for him...

I didn't say that I wouldn't be thinking about something else during a tournament match... in fact, the last tournament I played in(September 30, 2007), I was thinking about how I was going to knock my partner out cold, if he would make his 6th service fault in one match.:p

it is proven that if you're thinking about something else, you cannot concentrate on the match at hand and hence play badly...

no.... he is a BANANA!!! :D :D

You accuse Cooler to have double standard... Now you didn't like my so called "personal attack" on your blog, but now you are personally attacking my login name...:rolleyes: You are going to make a great president(or however it is called) for your country.:rolleyes:

You accuse Cooler to have double standard... Now you didn't like my so called "personal attack" on your blog, but now you are personally attacking my login name...:rolleyes: You are going to make a great president(or however it is called) for your country.:rolleyes:

prime minister...

that wasn't a personal atack.... that was a joke. Jokes don't intend to hurt... You are telling me that you took me calling you Banana followed with 3 smiley faces serious? Your cheap shot at my blog to promote your point WAS a personal attack

prime minister...

that wasn't a personal atack.... that was a joke. Jokes don't intend to hurt... You are telling me that you took me calling you Banana followed with 3 smiley faces serious? Your cheap shot at my blog to promote your point WAS a personal attack

Here, just to make you feel better...

Your blog is just a bunch of non-sense.:D:D:D

I added the :D:D:D now, how do you like it... feeling better now?:D:D:D

hmmm.. i was wondering what happened to lcw in semifinal.. he did very well in 1st set.. but after that.. he was down .. something might have bothered him.. and i just knew lcw got injury..

Here, just to make you feel better...

Your blog is just a bunch of non-sense.:D:D:D

I added the :D:D:D now, how do you like it... feeling better now?:D:D:D

completely missed my point.

You calling my blog a nonsense followed by smileys dont make it a joke. Its not a joke to call someone's blog a bunch of nonsense. Its a joke to call someone a banana. I don't even know you , so did you really get offended by me calling you a banana? The smileys were just for effect.

hmmm.. i was wondering what happened to lcw in semifinal.. he did very well in 1st set.. but after that.. he was down .. something might have bothered him.. and i just knew lcw got injury..

apparantly Lee was faking it... cooler and bananakid think that Lee should have withdrew immediately and have a public medical investigation to verify his claims...

apparantly Lee was faking it... cooler and bananakid think that Lee should have withdrew immediately and have a public medical investigation to verify his claims...

did they watch the match ? :rolleyes:

apparantly Lee was faking it... cooler and bananakid think that Lee should have withdrew immediately and have a public medical investigation to verify his claims...

When did Cooler and myself make the statement of "have a public medical investigation to verify his claims"? Especially Cooler didn't participate with this at all... just 2 or 3 posts at most...with 1 to 2 sentences each.

did they watch the match ? :rolleyes:

you have to ask them.

When did Cooler and myself make the statement of "have a public medical investigation to verify his claims"? Especially Cooler didn't participate with this at all... just 2 or 3 posts at most...with 1 to 2 sentences each.

cooler didn't participate? hmm... he must have lurked off somewhere...

you said that Lin Dan had himself examined in swiss open while Lee didnt which made Lee more suspicious, hence you are saying that if Lee should have called a doctor and be examined

cooler didn't participate? hmm... he must have lurked off somewhere...

you said that Lin Dan had himself examined in swiss open while Lee didnt which made Lee more suspicious, hence you are saying that if Lee should have called a doctor and be examined

Can you honestly say that the highlighted portion is only your assumption of what I posted, and not actually "what I posted".:rolleyes:

If I remember correctly, didn't you claim that Chen Hong's walk over during Macao open was not legitimate as well because he didn't prove to you that he really was injured?

with regarding to Cooler's participation, please refer to the my most recent post above. Read carefully... please.

did they watch the match ? :rolleyes:

I can't prove to them whether I watch it or not... I hope they don't ask me to prove it,too... or I can say something like " I don't need to prove to you that I watched the match...":p

Can you honestly say that the highlighted portion is only your assumption of what I posted, and not actually "what I posted".:rolleyes:

with regarding to Cooler's participation, please refer to the my most recent post above. Read carefully... please.

this is what you said:
At least he withdrew, and he was examined by a doctor in front of the audience. He didn't finish the game, then have his coach claimed that he didn't lose due to his opponent beat him, but he was injured, so his opponent was spared from a defeat. That is a big difference.

You are saying the big differences is Lin Dan being examined, while Lee not being examined. You are directly saying that the big differences between Lee and Lin's innocence is the presence of a doctor.

How can this be any clearer?

anyway to avoid being banned from this forum, i won't continue this discussion with you...

this is what you said:
At least he withdrew, and he was examined by a doctor in front of the audience. He didn't finish the game, then have his coach claimed that he didn't lose due to his opponent beat him, but he was injured, so his opponent was spared from a defeat. That is a big difference.

You are saying the big differences is Lin Dan being examined, while Lee not being examined. You are directly saying that the big differences between Lee and Lin's innocence is the presence of a doctor.

How can this be any clearer?

The high-lighted portion is the key difference, not the doctor part.:rolleyes:

anyway to avoid being banned from this forum, i won't continue this discussion with you...

I am willing to stand up for my point of view... but it seems like not everyone has the guts to do so. Not like we are swearing at each other and bullying each other... unless BC forum discourages any kind of disagreement or debate among members.

I was watching the match, and it seemed to me that LCW ran out of steam towards the end of the second game and throughout the third game. My initial thought was that he was overconfident and he went all out to take the second game, but Bao was able to withstand the pressure.

In the third game, LCW was flat (in instances where he usually made leaping smashes he didn't), and it was Bao who attacked, which is pretty unusual in Bao vs LCW matches. Until I read this article, I thought that LCW used the wrong strategy and exhausted himself. LCW being injured (whether real or not, excuse or reason) in the knee makes sense to me.

Me too as I was watching the 3rd set, I was surprised at the way LCW played...I find it strange with no jumping smash and even when he jumped to smash, he did not jump as high as before and I was thinking the same as you that LCW employed the wrong strategy but if it was a knee problem that would explain the way he played...Bao win is a win, cos if it was Bao who was injured, I would say the same too for LCW or whoever. Cooler said Bao played like a girl, but this match Bao was the aggressor compared to LCW.

It's too early to conclude. Let's wait and see. If LCW played fast and furious in French Open, then pretty sure this is just an excuse (although I don't see any reason to have such an excuse, this is not LCW's first loss to BCL, nor the most important loss either). Otherwise pretty sure he was indeed injured, since only a moron would deliberately miss a superseries event in this way. Besides LCW is already in Europe, it's a big waste of money if he does not play in French Open.

After watching the SF, I think BCL just played normal, if not below normal (thus no wonder he was then toyed by LD in the final). BCL was horrible in the 1st game, LCW OK. Then in the 2nd and 3rd games LCW kind of below par, BCL normal. It's not a high-quality match, with both players committing tons of errors, and not much fighting spirit in either of them.

Concur with your take.

Where is the peace maker????

Shud i call UN peace making troop here???

I think we all should accept the fact that LCW lost to BCL. Instead of bashing here, y don't we pay respect to both players who fight till the end on court?

Louisa, UN these days are all talk and more talk and has no bite and no influence...check the war in Iraq and that pretty much said it all....Maybe if you play peacemaker and cook up a storm just as you posted before to tempt Hauge may works...hehehe!!!:p;)

Very lucky for BAO coz I did not think he had a chance after the way LCW finished him off in the 1st game.

You can praise your hero in which ever way you want but except to discount the winner. Win is a Win and I think almost if not all Pro players does carry some injury more or less.

And IMO, that's an lame excuse.

Me too as I was watching the 3rd set, I was surprised at the way LCW played...I find it strange with no jumping smash and even when he jumped to smash, he did not jump as high as before and I was thinking the same as you that LCW employed the wrong strategy but if it was a knee problem that would explain the way he played...Bao win is a win, cos if it was Bao who was injured, I would say the same too for LCW or whoever. Cooler said Bao played like a girl, but this match Bao was the aggressor compared to LCW.

How did you manage to watch the game ? Live score or stream ?

You can praise your hero in which ever way you want but except to discount the winner. Win is a Win and I think almost if not all Pro players does carry some injury more or less.

And IMO, that's an lame excuse.

And that is your opinion versus mine. If LCW did not have the knee problem, I would not have said what I said -- it would have been something like "BAO won on form" or something similar.

hey hey whats goin on pipol ?????

And that is your opinion versus mine. If LCW did not have the knee problem, I would not have said what I said -- it would have been something like "BAO won on form" or something similar.

I think that's beyond just simply your opinion because you called Bao is lucky to win and you're discounting Bao's effort to excuse LCW's lost. Not to mention Bao has played both TH and CJ in 3 sets before the match with LCW, how much luck Bao could have without the skills that on par with the best???

How did you manage to watch the game ? Live score or stream ?


I watched the game live on our TV ASTRO. After the 1st game, I thought LCW would 'romp in'.

But in the second set, it confounded me when I saw him playing long rallies instead of doing what he did in the 1st game.

Clearly, I could see something was wrong coz he wasn't smashing. As a fan, I would believe Misbun -- I don't think he makes up stories just to please.

I think that's beyond just simply your opinion because you called Bao is lucky to win and you're discounting Bao's effort to excuse LCW's lost. Not to mention Bao has played both TH and CJ in 3 sets before the match with LCW, how much luck Bao could have without the skills that on par with the best???

So what if I think he was lucky to win this ? It is still my opinion - did I force it down your throat ?

I din watch the semis..... i thought Boa was on great form when i heard he beat LCW.

But after watching the Finals (& losing money on Bao :D ) Bao doesn't look to be on 'great form'

so IMHO, perhaps LCW injury can be considered true. No credit to be taken away from Bao tho.... a win is a win.

apparantly Lee was faking it... cooler and bananakid think that Lee should have withdrew immediately and have a public medical investigation to verify his claims...

whether it is true whether lcw was playing with injury at that time doesn't matter anymore. he lost. bcl didnt win either, LD won. that's it. IMO, complaining the head coach or giving excuses after losing are nothing but lame. ;) why dont you do that while you are winning?? then you are the man.

You can praise your hero in which ever way you want but except to discount the winner. Win is a Win and I think almost if not all Pro players does carry some injury more or less.

And IMO, that's an lame excuse.
well said......;)

How did you manage to watch the game ? Live score or stream ?
Actually I was in my office working on a project on a Sunday morning and took a break to watch the game which I dl...just addicted to baddy that work or not gotta watch.

Where is the peace maker????

Shud i call UN peace making troop here???

I think we all should accept the fact that LCW lost to BCL. Instead of bashing here, y don't we pay respect to both players who fight till the end on court?
..the first 3-4 pages of this thread, i was rolling my eyes & going to post:
"gud save this thread and save............BC".:p.......but thank goodness, cooler heads prevail and the "storm" seems to die off....:p:cool:

I watched the game live on our TV ASTRO. After the 1st game, I thought LCW would 'romp in'.

But in the second set, it confounded me when I saw him playing long rallies instead of doing what he did in the 1st game.

Clearly, I could see something was wrong coz he wasn't smashing. As a fan, I would believe Misbun -- I don't think he makes up stories just to please.

I watched that match too, during the 1st set, lcw didnt smash much either, and the rally didnt go long in the 1st set because bcl had already put the shuttle into the net.......it was just bcl making too many unforced errors in the 1st set. all 3 sets, lcw had been playing rally game, not an attacking one.

Even it is true about the injury, it is better to keep that to himself, dont you think? ok, let's assume that's its true, the reason he was telling the media all these is because he wants LCW to be spared. (it's ok for him to lose cos he was having an injury). it is not like LCW going to benefit anything from giving those info to the media.

whether it is true whether lcw was playing with injury at that time doesn't matter anymore. he lost. bcl didnt win either, LD won. that's it. IMO, complaining the head coach or giving excuses after losing are nothing but lame. ;) why dont you do that while you are winning?? then you are the man.


It is nothing to do with excuses -- it is a valid point that we brought up only from knowing the fact from his coach ! If I did not know about it from reading the press, I would have not have commented.

If saying what I believe after reading the fact is not an opinion I am entitled to and be simply called making excuses, then so be it. I have no qualms -- it will not make me retract what I now believe. Sorry guys, you don't win.

hope LCW will recover soon.....

Even it is true about the injury, it is better to keep that to himself, dont you think? ok, let's assume that's its true, the reason he was telling the media all these is because he wants LCW to be spared. (it's ok for him to lose cos he was having an injury). it is not like LCW going to benefit anything from giving those info to the media.

Misbun said it to let people know, not LCW. And I am grateful to Misbun for telling it because I want to know this sort of things.

It is nothing to do with excuses -- it is a valid point that we brought up only from knowing the fact from his coach ! If I did not know about it from reading the press, I would have not have commented.

If saying whatt I believe after reading the fact is not an opinion I am entitled to and be simply called making excuses, hen so be it. I have no qualms -- it will not make me retract what I now believe. Sorry guys, you don't win.

X Ball, im not accusing you guys in believing it or not, or bringing up this matter here.........as a matter of fact, i dont give a damn whether it is true or not, ok? you believe in what you believe, it is non of my business.

can't you see that im bashing the decision of misbun of telling the press about the injury. it will not do lcw any good except for covering lcw's arse for his loss to bcl. and this covering arse shite = excuses.

X Ball, im not accusing you guys in believing it or not, or bringing up this matter here.........as a matter of fact, i dont give a damn whether it is true or not, ok? you believe in what you believe, it is non of my business.

can't you see that im bashing the decision of misbun of telling the press about the injury. it will not do lcw any good except for covering lcw's arse for his loss to bcl. and this covering arse shite = excuses.


Understand your good intention Alfa-2. But if you ask the majority of fans here, they would be glad to hear from Misbun what went wrong. Misbun was not trying to make excuses -- he was pointing to what happened.

And that is my point to EGGY too that we are entitled to say what we believe in -- why should we not be able to do that. The world is built on opinions.

We all know we cannot change the win - it was a win and you did not hear me say give it back because he had a knee problem, did you?

I watched the game live on our TV ASTRO. After the 1st game, I thought LCW would 'romp in'.

But in the second set, it confounded me when I saw him playing long rallies instead of doing what he did in the 1st game.

Clearly, I could see something was wrong coz he wasn't smashing. As a fan, I would believe Misbun -- I don't think he makes up stories just to please.
Question was meant for OneTough Birdie, we don't have Astro in North America and wondered where he watch the 3th set. Anyway, I believe LCW wasn't at his best form losing tamely to the 2nd and 3th set. The knee injury wasn't that serious to call it quit but it did impaired his movement. So, let's hope the ice pack will do the job and move on to win the French Open. Go LCW !

let's call this a truce, alright? cos we both know that we want the best for lcw. is wch playing in FO? he can be of lcw's help there.......sometimes it's good to know that MAS not only has lcw fighting the wall of china.

LCW is a good player. I guess it's kinda hard to accept that he lost to player whom he has beaten so often since at the start of DO '07 he was reckoned to be in good form. Then again, I can't help but remember that the times he lost to BCL, there were comments made. In WO 06, Madrid, it was the 'leg-breaking' comments made by LYB which was in HKO; another time was with regards to Li Mao's departure and now this. Whew.......
anyway there are 3 more SS to go plus one grand final. Never say die.

LCW is a good player. I guess it's kinda hard to accept that he lost to player whom he has beaten so often since at the start of DO '07 he was reckoned to be in good form. Then again, I can't help but remember that the times he lost to BCL, there were comments made. In WO 06, Madrid, it was the 'leg-breaking' comments made by LYB which was in HKO; another time was with regards to Li Mao's departure and now this. Whew.......
anyway there are 3 more SS to go plus one grand final. Never say die.

that's right, what others (non Malaysian, esp CHN, LYB, BCL.......) will think when they read about this in the newspaper? it made LCW looks bad. :cool:

LCW is a good player. I guess it's kinda hard to accept that he lost to player whom he has beaten so often since at the start of DO '07 he was reckoned to be in good form. Then again, I can't help but remember that the times he lost to BCL, there were comments made. In WO 06, Madrid, it was the 'leg-breaking' comments made by LYB which was in HKO; another time was with regards to Li Mao's departure and now this. Whew.......
anyway there are 3 more SS to go plus one grand final. Never say die.

yeah. let's summarize the excuses LCW normally use:
1. break my leg
2. too much pressure
3. knee injury
4. BCL is so attractive that I can't concentrate.

Hope LCW could recover in time......

yeah. let's summarize the excuses LCW normally use:
1. break my leg
2. too much pressure
3. knee injury
4. BCL is so attractive that I can't concentrate.

exucse no.4, ooooooooooooooooooo, i thought lcw is straight all these while..........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

See what I mean everybody has his own opinion.:D

that's why BC is such an interesting place............

yeah. let's summarize the excuses LCW normally use:
1. break my leg
2. too much pressure
3. knee injury
4. BCL is so attractive that I can't concentrate.

exucse no.4, ooooooooooooooooooo, i thought lcw is straight all these while..........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

maybe a certain member that made the allegation is actually 'bent' :D :D :D :D

that's right, what others (non Malaysian, esp CHN, LYB, BCL.......) will think when they read about this in the newspaper? it made LCW looks bad. :cool:
Does it matter? I heard that LCW has credibility and is well regarded by CHN media.

it does matter..........

it does matter..........
How? You mean if LYB thinks badly of LCW, LCW's game will be affected? LCW has won well-fought titles despite LYB's past behaviour.

it's reputation......

why you all wan to critics like this?
what's wrong if LCW lost once for a while?
you all got no rights to command him do this & do that!
he is play for his own and not for you all!!!
why must he suffer all these useless critics juz becoz he lose?
is there anyone critics him when he win the Japan Open?
even in buddha also taught us..
everything tat happen got a reason from it!
why you all muz say tat he is using excuses?

oh, pls dont cry.........

oh, pls dont cry.........

Sure make a joke of someone who is speaking from the heart.

no just that she asked too many question at once and i dont know how to answer them..........;)

really lcw injured???????

maybe a certain member that made the allegation is actually 'bent' :D :D :D :D
hi ching....luv ur posting here..................:D

Yes... LCW is really injured. And he was sick as well when he was on the way to Denmark. But i know that was not an excuse.. as he can still manage to play in the Semis.

Yes... LCW is really injured. And he was sick as well when he was on the way to Denmark. But i know that was not an excuse.. as he can still manage to play in the Semis.
what kind of injury?????????serious??

Aggravated Knee injury.. not serious. Can be prevented from being worse.

WCH and LCW both in not so good shape then...
ants, how is WCH condition exactly? and will he be playing or skipping FO as well?

i think WCH might alr recover 80%..
but with his draw of 2nd round meet LD..
not sure whether he can withstand it o not..
for LCW..
juz injured 2 days ago...
i dun think he can really play well in FO..
Jonassen is a tough opponent too..
if he really get pass ,simon summore...
haiz.
i will be really happy if he can reach QF..
anything afta tat will be miracle.
he could also lost in the 1st round..
but it's nvm coz atleast he try to play..

i think WCH might alr recover 80%..
but with his draw of 2nd round meet LD..
not sure whether he can withstand it o not..
for LCW..
juz injured 2 days ago...
i dun think he can really play well in FO..
Jonassen is a tough opponent too..
if he really get pass ,simon summore...
haiz.
i will be really happy if he can reach QF..
anything afta tat will be miracle.
he could also lost in the 1st round..
but it's nvm coz atleast he try to play..


I do not think WCH will play...I just met up with Joachim persson in Copenhagen airport...we chatted more on badminton as a career,..etc....he told me that he is in the main draw so at least 3 players will be absent.....(anup, WCH and CY).....also possibility that LCW may not play as well....

i think WCH might alr recover 80%..
but with his draw of 2nd round meet LD..
not sure whether he can withstand it o not..
for LCW..
juz injured 2 days ago...
i dun think he can really play well in FO..
Jonassen is a tough opponent too..
if he really get pass ,simon summore...
haiz.
i will be really happy if he can reach QF..
anything afta tat will be miracle.
he could also lost in the 1st round..
but it's nvm coz atleast he try to play..
WCH can play at this age,im happy enough.
he has my support but not my hope.

as for chong wei...it is minor injury..right ants?he'll get better soon.

p/s-dont worry nyw,not everyone will blame LCw for the lost.u have me on ur side.and for sure,george@chongwei too.we are here for chong wei.

exucse no.4, ooooooooooooooooooo, i thought lcw is straight all these while..........:D:D:D:D:D:D:D
No, Alfa-2...Dannyang meant to say that pretty Bao is attractive to him;):p:D

LCW did play quite below par in the SF against a tired BCL. BCL looked exhausted when facing LD in the final. Even if LCW managed to beat BCL, he would lose to LD easily in the final.

Yes... LCW is really injured. And he was sick as well when he was on the way to Denmark. But i know that was not an excuse.. as he can still manage to play in the Semis.

Most of Msia's fans are concerned with LCW's knee injury. If the pain affects his game, wouldnt it be good if he withdraws instead of losing (touchwood) to Kenneth in the first round, and that would dampen his position as world No.2? IMHO, Kenneth is a very sharp player, and definitely cannot be taken lightly.

hi ching....luv ur posting here..................:D

thanks for the compliment, but why you calling me ching?:confused::confused::confused:

Most of Msia's fans are concerned with LCW's knee injury. If the pain affects his game, wouldnt it be good if he withdraws instead of losing (touchwood) to Kenneth in the first round, and that would dampen his position as world No.2? IMHO, Kenneth is a very sharp player, and definitely cannot be taken lightly.

i think Lee and Misbun (give him a break) will decide tomorrow whether it is wise to play on.

I am sure Lee Chong Wei will play as the injury is not that serious according to Misbun. If Chong Wei can finish in 2 set against Konassen then he will win else he will most probably lose in rubber. The key is not to further injure himself as he still will stay within top 4 if he play well in next two SS.
As for Bao, he beat Chong Wei square and fair, give him credit as not being injure is one of the criteria of winning.

Exactly. Some ppl treat every "explanation" as an excuse. Just don't understand them. :confused:

I am sure Lee Chong Wei will play as the injury is not that serious according to Misbun. If Chong Wei can finish in 2 set against Konassen then he will win else he will most probably lose in rubber. The key is not to further injure himself as he still will stay within top 4 if he play well in next two SS.
As for Bao, he beat Chong Wei square and fair, give him credit as not being injure is one of the criteria of winning.

Exactly. Some ppl treat every "explanation" as an excuse. Just don't understand them. :confused:

Nope , I don't think the argument in this thread is really about "excuse" or "Lee's injure"
It is an everlasting war on BC.:)

WCH can play at this age,im happy enough.
he has my support but not my hope.

as for chong wei...it is minor injury..right ants?he'll get better soon.

p/s-dont worry nyw,not everyone will blame LCw for the lost.u have me on ur side.and for sure,george@chongwei too.we are here for chong wei.
yup, im here...:)
u and me and everyone else will support lee chong wei no matter he lose or win...

Nope , I don't think the argument in this thread is really about "excuse" or "Lee's injure"
It is an everlasting war on BC.:)
Post of the day anyone?

I am sure Lee Chong Wei will play as the injury is not that serious according to Misbun. If Chong Wei can finish in 2 set against Konassen then he will win else he will most probably lose in rubber. The key is not to further injure himself as he still will stay within top 4 if he play well in next two SS.
As for Bao, he beat Chong Wei square and fair, give him credit as not being injure is one of the criteria of winning.
Agree. He should go on with FO but recognise that he is unlikely to win the title because of unfavourable physical condition.With that in mind, he may perhaps use the opportunity to play with maximum exploration of his tactics
since he can afford to lose.If he can win in 2 games, great!(bonus points for OG08), if he were to lose in 3, also great (to rest and recover properly) so this is turning out to be a no-lose situation.Important is to play without aggravating his knee injury.He will still be able to win against KJ and Simon if he can only play at the SF level shown in DO.
Who knows LD may go out in his 3rd consecutive match against non-CHN MS (highly likely) and whoever take him out may have nothing left for the final in the other half. With SS nowadays, anything can happen. (That's why PAW champions change with each tournament!)
So doesn't hurt for LCW to play and hope for the best while expecting the worst.Objective here is to collect OG08 points with minimum effort.

I would suggest that LCW to withdraw from FO,....there will be two more SS in Asia next month....so its better to heal the injury than to aggravate it.....
so i hope Misbun and LCW will make a wise decision then....

yup, im here...:)
u and me and everyone else will support lee chong wei no matter he lose or win...
at last, u are here for chong wei...

see nwy, am i right?

at last, u are here for chong wei...

see nwy, am i right?

yup!
you are ..:D

yup!
you are ..:D
bash everyone who bad-mouthing lee chong wei.

our mission now..
get ready..
haha..

I am sure Lee Chong Wei will play as the injury is not that serious according to Misbun. If Chong Wei can finish in 2 set against Konassen then he will win else he will most probably lose in rubber. The key is not to further injure himself as he still will stay within top 4 if he play well in next two SS.
As for Bao, he beat Chong Wei square and fair, give him credit as not being injure is one of the criteria of winning.
They will make decision today....I met them at Copenhagen airport....I prefer him to rest than take a risk.....China Master and HK open are not far away...

They will make decision today....I met them at Copenhagen airport....I prefer him to rest than take a risk.....China Master and HK open are not far away...

Absolutely, go Disneyland Paris instead.

Absolutely, go Disneyland Paris instead.
Louis Vitton is better...:D:D In Disneyland, you still have to run to catch a ride...:D:D My question is why they have to wait last minute if they have to withdraw....

Louis Vitton is better...:D:D In Disneyland, you still have to run to catch a ride...:D:D My question is why they have to wait last minute if they have to withdraw....

I conjecture the pain comes and go and therefore it is hard to make a decision. It is probably a sciatica nerve impinging when he jumps too much otherwise it is ok.

Louis Vitton is better...:D:D In Disneyland, you still have to run to catch a ride...:D:D My question is why they have to wait last minute if they have to withdraw....


What ? You suggest go to Louis Vutton to buy something for the galfriend ?

What ? You suggest go to Louis Vutton to buy something for the galfriend ?
Yep...all players love going to LV store....:D:D

Yeah... most of them will be going to LV shop in Paris.. i asked some of them to buy some bags for me too..

Yeah... most of them will be going to LV shop in Paris.. i asked some of them to buy some bags for me too..
:D:D hm..someone is not paying any taxes....:D:D

Well alot of people is not paying any Taxes.. hahah not only me. :P Anyway LV is just a small amount..

Well alot of people is not paying any Taxes.. hahah not only me. :P Anyway LV is just a small amount..


Small amount to some perhaps ?;)

Only tax paying people like me who cannot afford. :)

hmm.. I heard that if you buy more than certain quantity of L.V. bags from france , u need to pay tax.. Else they will count u as smuggling.:eek:. So.. Get ready ur pocket money to pay the extra :D

hmm.. I heard that if you buy more than certain quantity of L.V. bags from france , u need to pay tax.. Else they will count u as smuggling.:eek:. So.. Get ready ur pocket money to pay the extra :D

each non EU citizen is eligible for i item each to claim VAT. more than that is chargeable... :D. have fun shopping

I believe people like BCL and LD and TH and PG all have injury problem. The only thing is they don't really talk much about it when loosing. If they win, great, if they loose, give credit to the winners. Correct? It's unsportmanship and degrading to the winners.

Disneyland is small.

LCW shd bring his girlfriend to the cruise on the river. A very romantic site in the evening for just an hour ride. Can see the Eiffel Tower from the cruise. Recommended to anyone who's there in Paris. A truly romantic city. Don't get horny ok?.. hehe.:D
Or maybe have a good walk at the giant louvre museum. That'll help his knees.:D

Absolutely, go Disneyland Paris instead.

I believe people like BCL and LD and TH and PG all have injury problem. The only thing is they don't really talk much about it when loosing. If they win, great, if they loose, give credit to the winners. Correct? It's unsportmanship and degrading to the winners.

eh, dont try to stir the fire again, the issue is almost settled...

LCW has a right to voice his opinions. Its not insulting to anyone. However, your questioning of his integrity is insulting.

I believe people like BCL and LD and TH and PG all have injury problem. The only thing is they don't really talk much about it when loosing. If they win, great, if they loose, give credit to the winners. Correct? It's unsportmanship and degrading to the winners.
u can be a friend of alfa-2.
both of u have the same opinions.

for me.sometimes our players need to explain the reasons of the lost.
not to give excuses but as an explanation.

all forumers has the rite of opinion rite? is there a democracy here? Since there have been so much incidence about him, its good to keep the drama on. Else, the game will be lame correct? or no heat some would say.

Ya lor. difficult to draw the line. But being a competitive player myself. Its always too good to praise the winners as they work hard to win the tough game. have to be fair to the winner mah. correct?:D

u can be a friend of alfa-2.
both of u have the same opinions.

for me.sometimes our players need to explain the reasons of the lost.
not to give excuses but as an explanation.

Ya lor. difficult to draw the line. But being a competitive player myself. Its always too good to praise the winners as they work hard to win the tough game. have to be fair to the winner mah. correct?:D
u are entitle of ur opinions .
i wont say anything to criticize urs.

I believe people like BCL and LD and TH and PG all have injury problem. The only thing is they don't really talk much about it when loosing. If they win, great, if they loose, give credit to the winners. Correct? It's unsportmanship and degrading to the winners.

here it comes again............gentlemen start your engine............:D:D:D:D:D

I believe people like BCL and LD and TH and PG all have injury problem. The only thing is they don't really talk much about it when loosing. If they win, great, if they loose, give credit to the winners. Correct? It's unsportmanship and degrading to the winners.
U r like the Malaysian version of bananakid.:D

Btw, lose and losing are the correct words in this context.

loose adjective, loos·er, loos·est, adverb, verb loosed, loos·ing.
–verb (used with object) 20.to let loose; free from bonds or restraint. 21.to release, as from constraint, obligation, or penalty. 22.Chiefly Nautical. to set free from fastening or attachment: to loose a boat from its moorings.

lose verb, lost, los·ing.
–verb (used with object)
24.to suffer defeat or fail to win, as in a contest, race, or game: We played well, but we lost.

U r like the Malaysian version of bananakid.:D

Btw, lose and losing are the correct words in this context.

loose adjective, loos·er, loos·est, adverb, verb loosed, loos·ing.
–verb (used with object) 20.to let loose; free from bonds or restraint. 21.to release, as from constraint, obligation, or penalty. 22.Chiefly Nautical. to set free from fastening or attachment: to loose a boat from its moorings.

lose verb, lost, los·ing.
–verb (used with object)
24.to suffer defeat or fail to win, as in a contest, race, or game: We played well, but we lost.

robin7 is an english teacher ke?

robin7 is an english teacher ke?
No lah. Just tak boleh tahan.:rolleyes:

I don't think there's any shame in losing to BCL, who is china's second best player and world #4 or something? If LCW won the tournment, we would've never heard this news... BCL did beat TH and CY who are very very good players and he does have the tools to win, so why doesn't ppl just give him credit for winning a match. As a previous poster said, athletes play with various injuries, just look at NBA players, Kobe plays hurt, Steve Nash plays hurt, it's a fact of life so why is it different in this case?

No lah. Just tak boleh tahan.:rolleyes:


Robin7 teaches by the dictionary.:D

I don't think there's any shame in losing to BCL, who is china's second best player and world #4 or something? If LCW won the tournment, we would've never heard this news... BCL did beat TH and CY who are very very good players and he does have the tools to win, so why doesn't ppl just give him credit for winning a match. As a previous poster said, athletes play with various injuries, just look at NBA players, Kobe plays hurt, Steve Nash plays hurt, it's a fact of life so why is it different in this case?


its not an issue. Its just that some people are saying that Misbun purposely said that Lee was injured just to make up excuses efor his lost...

Who in KL wants to take me on for satay : SIMON vs LCW ?

Loser will also throw in a ICE TEH LIMAU (ice lemon tea) to cool the heat after 20 sticks of satay. :)

anyway i hope tat chong wei injury will recover faster....
if not is hard to get champion for malaysia~

Who in KL wants to take me on for satay : SIMON vs LCW ?

Loser will also throw in a ICE TEH LIMAU (ice lemon tea) to cool the heat after 20 sticks of satay. :)
Okay....Xball..I will participate..hehe....If I lose to you...I still have satay from DRIFT....:D:D I will take Simon over LCW...hope that SS final is in KL.....:D:D

I don't think there's any shame in losing to BCL, who is china's second best player and world #4 or something? If LCW won the tournment, we would've never heard this news... BCL did beat TH and CY who are very very good players and he does have the tools to win, so why doesn't ppl just give him credit for winning a match. As a previous poster said, athletes play with various injuries, just look at NBA players, Kobe plays hurt, Steve Nash plays hurt, it's a fact of life so why is it different in this case?
You mean Chen Jin, not Chen YU, right?

opps... ya CJ.... typo... :p

Okay....Xball..I will participate..hehe....If I lose to you...I still have satay from DRIFT....:D:D I will take Simon over LCW...hope that SS final is in KL.....:D:D

My friend, if you win I will buy you satay in KL when you visit us next. If I win, you buy me roast goose (HK$48 or something like this) when I visit HK or I will buy roast goose if you win when I go HK.

Sounds fair ? Deal for me.



hahaha, what a deal !

:DMy friend, if you win I will buy you satay in KL when you visit us next. If I win, you buy me roast goose (HK$48 or something like this) when I visit HK or I will buy roast goose if you win when I go HK.

Sounds fair ? Deal for me.
:D:D okay..okay,...deal.....roast goose is not HK48, it costs more.....:D:D

:D
:D:D okay..okay,...deal.....roast goose is not HK48, it costs more.....:D:D


Last time it cost HK48 for a small plate in a Wanchai restaturant.


The other bit along there was a lot more.;)

its not an issue. Its just that some people are saying that Misbun purposely said that Lee was injured just to make up excuses efor his lost...

Well, you could read this both ways just depends on the point of view of the person/fan. He could be hurt, but than is it the best decision to say that he is hurt to the media? If I was a coach, I would not be releasing the info of my injured player that is playing hurt. I think Sidney Crosby played with a broken foot or toe without anybody knowing for awhile, that's a perfect example. In the end, players win and lose all the time, well some more than others :p

Last time it cost HK48 for a small plate in a Wanchai restaturant.


The other bit along there was a lot more.;)

Haiya...so you went to Wanchai? many good restaurants are in Kowloon....:D:D what were you doing in Wan Cai?hehe

Haiya...so you went to Wanchai? many good restaurants are in Kowloon....:D:D what were you doing in Wan Cai?hehe


I got ribbed off along Wanchai !:D

Well, you could read this both ways just depends on the point of view of the person/fan. He could be hurt, but than is it the best decision to say that he is hurt to the media? If I was a coach, I would not be releasing the info of my injured player that is playing hurt. I think Sidney Crosby played with a broken foot or toe without anybody knowing for awhile, that's a perfect example. In the end, players win and lose all the time, well some more than others :p

thats a very good example that LCW or Misbun should follow.

Well, you could read this both ways just depends on the point of view of the person/fan. He could be hurt, but than is it the best decision to say that he is hurt to the media? If I was a coach, I would not be releasing the info of my injured player that is playing hurt. I think Sidney Crosby played with a broken foot or toe without anybody knowing for awhile, that's a perfect example. In the end, players win and lose all the time, well some more than others :p

It's really difficult to please everybody. Each time LCW loses, we ask why/ what happened? If the coach or the player tell us the reason, we doubt and say it's just an excuse for not winning. What do we really want to know? We always have our own opinion. For me, when I support a player, I do win or lose. Sometimes we the supporters push the players and the coaches too far. We never believe them afterall. The truth for us is what is playing in our own imagination. Aren't we suppose to love our heroes? Maybe we should just stop assuming things. Enjoy the game. They work so hard for our viewing and enjoyment. We should be grateful.

I got ribbed off along Wanchai !:D
You are thinking too much of food? Are you sure it's 'ribbed' and not 'ripped'.

yeah...dont tell anyone that u are hurt..
then when u are really not able to play,others will blame u.

why dont u tell the fans/management earlier? why did u tell u are ok and theres no injury? why u dont explain to us earlier? these are typical questions that make players feel so bad.

yeah..dont reveal ur injury..
and see what happen to TOrres?liverpool is suffering for losing his service now due to his injury.rafa let him play and tell the fans torres is ok for action.
and do u see the consequences?liverpool lost alonso,torres,agger etc..due to injury .i dont want to talk about football here but things are very clear.

sometimes we need to reveal the reasons of the lost.in a proper way.dont balme others like what lcw did..it's improper when he put the blame to Ykh(even if it is true)

excuses are allowed bcoz theres a reason for everything in this world.when LCw won,it means that thing are just fine and plans work out.no excuses needed.

Don't reveal a player has injury unless they have pull out the player, if the player is in then reveal only after the game (regardless they win or lost).

It's never healthy if an opponent knows that the player is injured for that's when they can catch in on the "weakness" of the player.

If my any of my heros is to lost in a match , I will like to know why (out of concern and not being critical) ... and if they win , I will celebrate.

My heros .........KKK/TBH,LCW,CTF/LWW,WCH,Lin Dan,BCL, Mew Choo, ZhangNing.

Last time it cost HK48 for a small plate in a Wanchai restaturant.


The other bit along there was a lot more.;)

True... heheh i know a restaurant in Causeway that serve Roast Goose drumstick with charsiew and roast pork in a plate with rice.. and it cost HK$50 or 60 only! So cheap!

True... heheh i know a restaurant in Causeway that serve Roast Goose drumstick with charsiew and roast pork in a plate with rice.. and it cost HK$50 or 60 only! So cheap!
But expensive for me..........:(:(

Comeon.. u can afford to fly to Denmark.. 60dollars meal is expensive? heheh

Comeon.. u can afford to fly to Denmark.. 60dollars meal is expensive? heheh
:D:D I am cheapy....hehe

:D:D I am cheapy....hehe

hheheheheheh...........:D:D:D:D:D

It really doesn't matter what Chong Wei explain or not explain, if you're his fan, you will accept whatever and if you're not then you will not. We do have to accept Chong Wei is one hell of the player, such a enjoyment to watch him perform!!!

I was in the stadium today and yesterday. First of all, I am not a LCW fan.
From what I saw, LCW injury is not a fake. During his match against SS, I saw him sneering.

I think this injury allowed him to focus on his tactics and not taking the attacks and smashing all the way. He made very few unforced errors against Kenneth and Simon.

He plays at a slow pace, uses a lot of disguised drop shots and plays well at the net. I think he has a good chance to make it tomorrow against YCK.

It really doesn't matter what Chong Wei explain or not explain, if you're his fan, you will accept whatever and if you're not then you will not. We do have to accept Chong Wei is one hell of the player, such a enjoyment to watch him perform!!!
Looks like he manage to heal his injury .. Pretty fast ! :rolleyes:

I was in the stadium today and yesterday. First of all, I am not a LCW fan.
From what I saw, LCW injury is not a fake. During his match against SS, I saw him sneering.

I think this injury allowed him to focus on his tactics and not taking the attacks and smashing all the way. He made very few unforced errors against Kenneth and Simon.

He plays at a slow pace, uses a lot of disguised drop shots and plays well at the net. I think he has a good chance to make it tomorrow against YCK.


what u saw explained what many ppl still keep on attacking LCW on his faked injury....let them stop this issue and carry on to enjoy the game

You are thinking too much of food? Are you sure it's 'ribbed' and not 'ripped'.

Now to think of it, I might have been 'ribbed of' rather than 'ripped off'. Thanks.

:D:D I am cheapy....hehe


Hey no cheapy stuff ! Else I would not go !:D

His knee problem is not that serious. However it hampered his movement on court.

I was in the stadium today and yesterday. First of all, I am not a LCW fan.
From what I saw, LCW injury is not a fake. During his match against SS, I saw him sneering.

I think this injury allowed him to focus on his tactics and not taking the attacks and smashing all the way. He made very few unforced errors against Kenneth and Simon.

He plays at a slow pace, uses a lot of disguised drop shots and plays well at the net. I think he has a good chance to make it tomorrow against YCK.
Thanks for your feedback.
Without any injury,he moves like a maglev and speed gives him an extra winning edge.Without his speed weapon,he cannot play his usual A game ;he has no choice but to explore other tactics.
You're spot on on your observations. What about his match vs Simon? Was it tougher than vs KJ?

That's my understanding too! :)

His knee problem is not that serious. However it hampered his movement on court.

His knee problem is not that serious. However it hampered his movement on court.

With his movementr being hampered,...he still so determine to send SS packing....he must be really wanting to revenge the defeat by SS in CTO few weeks ago...so in the European tour...LCW have clear all his revenge to INA MS,...Sony and SS....thats impressive

Injured or not, I suggest we keep the decision to ourself never mentioned of it anymore. I'm not saying whether he is or is not but I'm asking everyone to not putting your personal belief into the discussion.

A win is a win, a lost is lost. Nonetheless.

I think there should be no more questions/doubts about LCW's abilities. THe only question should be whether his knees would hold out and he can play (minus the mobility) well enough to take on LD. If he does, I think we would all give him a standing ovation.

I am not bold enough to call the shot on this one. But definitely he carries my luck into the game.

after yterday win over SS, i dont think chong wei knee injury bothers him..

after yterday win over SS, i dont think chong wei knee injury bothers him..


Georgie, did you give him a steroid injection ?

after yterday win over SS, i dont think chong wei knee injury bothers him..
injured is injured.it maybe serious or not.and it will affect the game.

im sure LCw trying so hard to overcome his pain and won his game yesterday.

I talked to Chong Wei yesterday and his knee is okay now eventhough he feel a bit of pain, but he's bearing it.
Honestly i don't think he's faking an injury, as ben95 said we could see Chong wei touching his knee quite often.

my knee had injury too, when u play the game sometime you feel very pain but after you play quite a while you will forgot the pain play as usual but after you stop for a rest your knee will feel MORE pain. So, I can understand why Chong Wei play well in game 1 and game 2 game 3 no so well when vs BCL

I talked to Chong Wei yesterday and his knee is okay now eventhough he feel a bit of pain, but he's bearing it.
Honestly i don't think he's faking an injury, as ben95 said we could see Chong wei touching his knee quite often.
That's what ZN did in DO.And she moved so well in SF.But ZN won in 3 and lost in 2. With LCW,it's likely win in 2 or lose in 3.Different knee-touching effect.

What he needs is a bit of Ultrasound to cut down the inflammation.

I hope this will be the first time Malaysia win a MS and MD champion.
Or better with MS and WS like when LD and XXF did it.
:)

I hope this will be the first time Malaysia win a MS and MD champion.
Or better with MS and WS like when LD and XXF did it.
:)

hahaha.... how sweet...
dono if i'll b lucky enough to celebrate the victory of tis low profile couple from MAS...
Malaysia Boleh, LCW boleh, LCW's GF boleh.... go go go

That's what ZN did in DO.And she moved so well in SF.But ZN won in 3 and lost in 2. With LCW,it's likely win in 2 or lose in 3.Different knee-touching effect.

Zhang Nings game plan and the way she play with her injury is totally different from LCW or men singles game in the matter of fact.
ZN will try to end the rally as much as possible since her opponent are the usual rally type.

Zhang Nings game plan and the way she play with her injury is totally different from LCW or men singles game in the matter of fact.
ZN will try to end the rally as much as possible since her opponent are the usual rally type.

No, I don't think it's due to opponent styles, more like the difference between MS and WS. Zhang Ning has the short end of the stick 'cos rallies in WS generally last longer due to difficulty in killing the shuttle with the pace slower. Whereas in MS the game is much faster and produces much more power play. Thereby easier to make a smash kill or a mistake.

That's what ZN did in DO.And she moved so well in SF.But ZN won in 3 and lost in 2. With LCW,it's likely win in 2 or lose in 3.Different knee-touching effect.

Yes, every weak spot is amplify and exploit in rubber.

That's what ZN did in DO.And she moved so well in SF.But ZN won in 3 and lost in 2. With LCW,it's likely win in 2 or lose in 3.Different knee-touching effect.

Zhang Ning won because ZM was over confident after winning the 2nd set. She thought Zhang Ning is too tired to win the 3rd set. ZM was leading comfortably and she squandered it. When she finally realized that Zhang Ning has recharged her batteries it was too late.:eek:

LCW has adapted a new game plan because of the knee injury. Lesser jump smashes and more on early retrieval of shuttle cock and net shots. His is playing a totally different game. I'm glad he is really that versatile. :)

Zhang Ning won because ZM was over confident after winning the 2nd set. She thought Zhang Ning is too tired to win the 3rd set. ZM was leading comfortably and she squandered it. When she finally realized that Zhang Ning has recharged her batteries it was too late.:eek:

LCW has adapted a new game plan because of the knee injury. Lesser jump smashes and more on early retrieval of shuttle cock and net shots. His is playing a totally different game. I'm glad he is really that versatile. :)

Thanks for the analysis :) Yeah LCW is a very good versatile player ;)

Yep...all players love going to LV store....:D:D
Why do people like LV so much?:confused: Is the quality really good? or is it because it is branded and glamorous? To me...in my humble opinion...LV bags are not that nice-looking...

Hey...how's LCW's injury, by the way? It's getting better, perhaps?

Zhang Ning won because ZM was over confident after winning the 2nd set. She thought Zhang Ning is too tired to win the 3rd set. ZM was leading comfortably and she squandered it. When she finally realized that Zhang Ning has recharged her batteries it was too late.:eek:

LCW has adapted a new game plan because of the knee injury. Lesser jump smashes and more on early retrieval of shuttle cock and net shots. His is playing a totally different game. I'm glad he is really that versatile. :)
Great to know that LCW has turned himself into a versatile player. Hopefully he can continue his good form against CJ today.

Great to know that LCW has turned himself into a versatile player. Hopefully he can continue his good form against CJ today.
He has always been a versatile player. With his present handicap, he knows how to capitalize on his alternative playing style, not as explosive but still very effective.

Why do people like LV so much?:confused: Is the quality really good? or is it because it is branded and glamorous? To me...in my humble opinion...LV bags are not that nice-looking...

Because LV in Paris is the cheapest.

Because LV in Paris is the cheapest.

The locals call the LV shop the Japanese Embassy.:D

The locals call the LV shop the Japanese Embassy.:D

HAhha.. yeah.. as well as the Koreans. Japanese are crazy about it. Ogguchi and Rei-Chan are going to shop like hell over there.

He has always been a versatile player. With his present handicap, he knows how to capitalize on his alternative playing style, not as explosive but still very effective.
Since u r there watching LCW & CJ. What do u think abt their match later?

I am also watching the Astro LIVE match. LCW is really super !!! Great deception on his game.. CJ really have no answer to it.. When there is change, seal the point with his powerful smashes.. And LCW seldom did error. Only a few...

both players are injured... we can't really see the real lcw and chen jin in action today. in the second half of the second game, can really see Chen Jin grimacing in pain.... We can't really tell how serious their injuries are so its not good to judge them in this match, but I hope LCW has enough to take down bao chun lai.

I am also watching the Astro LIVE match. LCW is really super !!! Great deception on his game.. CJ really have no answer to it.. When there is change, seal the point with his powerful smashes.. And LCW seldom did error. Only a few...

terrific lee chong wei...!!!
21-8,21-8 tremendous...!!!

Smoke Bomb = Knee injury!!
:D(just my opinion):cool:

Smoke Bomb = Knee injury!!
:D(just my opinion):cool:
LI de Quan..pls find out whats happening to CJ????

Smoke Bomb = Knee injury!!
:D(just my opinion):cool:

Imagine after the smoke is clear and Chong Wei knee fully recover, 2 Lin Dan also can't beat him :D:D:D I also happen to think Chong Wei so call knee injury is over exaggerated, most players play with some ache and pain anyway. If the magic words "knee injury" make him invincible then let the injury linger forever or at least until after the Olympic :D
I have no issue on his knee injury.

I just find out form Bulutangkis.com that CJ was suffering back pain..hope he recovers soon for China and HKG open.......