View Full Version : China Open seeding report is out!


kevinboy
11-03-2007, 04:19 AM
As another stop of SS in China, most top players will participate in this event.

All the seeded players are world no. 1 to 8, except in WD, a new pair Gao Ling/ Du Jing appears:eek: while ZTT/ Yu Yang is not on the list.

And the main draw will be released on 6/11

kwun
11-03-2007, 12:04 PM
can you post the link to the report?

i don't see any Koreans in the entry list!

kevinboy
11-03-2007, 10:35 PM
can you post the link to the report?

i don't see any Koreans in the entry list!

http://www.internationalbadminton.org/ChinaSS/CHINAM&Q%20REPORT%20VERSION%202.xls

At least Lee Hyun II ,JUN Jae Youn, Hwang Hye Youn are on the list

kevinboy
11-03-2007, 10:35 PM
As another stop of SS in China, most top players will participate in this event.

All the seeded players are world no. 1 to 8, except in WD, a new pair Gao Ling/ Du Jing appears:eek: while ZTT/ Yu Yang is not on the list.

And the main draw will be released on 6/11

Correction:
ZTT/ YU Yang is on the list:cool:

huangkwokhau
11-03-2007, 11:04 PM
No INA WS but INA has new pair: Hendra/Endang in Qualifying.......hm...I think I should go since it is quite close.......

huangkwokhau
11-03-2007, 11:05 PM
can you post the link to the report?

i don't see any Koreans in the entry list!
There are many Korean pairs in china open....I think last time they skipped China open in Cheng Du...If I am correct!

huangkwokhau
11-03-2007, 11:21 PM
This time, No Sin players as they will be preparing for Sea Games.....I am glad that INA decided not to skip China Open......

badMania
11-04-2007, 12:57 AM
The consequence is that INA players WILL MISS the Hong Kong Open :eek:

Like Hau-Ge, I think I WILL GO.

huangkwokhau
11-04-2007, 06:42 AM
The consequence is that INA players WILL MISS the Hong Kong Open :eek:

Like Hau-Ge, I think I WILL GO.
At least some of them will be in HGK.........:D

yannie
11-04-2007, 06:44 AM
No INA WS but INA has new pair: Hendra/Endang in Qualifying.......hm...I think I should go since it is quite close.......

Wow.. Hendra AG with Endang.. Not bad decision since he's not doing that well in MD..

sumbadder
11-04-2007, 04:54 PM
why are lilyana/vita seeded?

huangkwokhau
11-04-2007, 05:24 PM
why are lilyana/vita seeded?

Some of criteria are not clear...........you can see XD or WD where SEY ( country) where its WD or XD is seeded higher than from Taiwanese eventhough Taiwanese ranks much higher.....

Even gao Ling/Du Jing is seeded quite high eventhough they never play together before in international event....

BWF has a lot works to do if they want badminton goes to fully professionally like Tennis in future....

sumbadder
11-04-2007, 07:11 PM
Some of criteria are not clear...........you can see XD or WD where SEY ( country) where its WD or XD is seeded higher than from Taiwanese eventhough Taiwanese ranks much higher.....

Even gao Ling/Du Jing is seeded quite high eventhough they never play together before in international event....

BWF has a lot works to do if they want badminton goes to fully professionally like Tennis in future....
I get the BWF's idea of notional points but I don't see how the INA ladies qualify for it since they are a brand new pair and not a scratch pair made of two higher ranked players. Gao Ling/Du Jing are seeded cause they both are ranked within the top 20 w/ GL at #3 so they are deserving of a seed since they have separate rankings, but Lilyana/Vita are just a new team. I don't see why they don't have to crawl up the rankings to get seeded like everyone else...

On a side note, sucks for Huang Sui who seems to have been ousted from playing for now for some reason. She hasn't been on form lately though.

huangkwokhau
11-04-2007, 07:29 PM
I get the BWF's idea of notional points but I don't see how the INA ladies qualify for it since they are a brand new pair and not a scratch pair made of two higher ranked players. Gao Ling/Du Jing are seeded cause they both are ranked within the top 20 w/ GL at #3 so they are deserving of a seed since they have separate rankings, but Lilyana/Vita are just a new team. I don't see why they don't have to crawl up the rankings to get seeded like everyone else...

On a side note, sucks for Huang Sui who seems to have been ousted from playing for now for some reason. She hasn't been on form lately though.
I just checked again on Version 3, ( pls click on M&Q), Vita/Natsir is not seeded anymore...their place is taken by ZTT/Yu Yang....now Taufik is seeded 7 in version 3....

huangkwokhau
11-04-2007, 07:30 PM
I get the BWF's idea of notional points but I don't see how the INA ladies qualify for it since they are a brand new pair and not a scratch pair made of two higher ranked players. Gao Ling/Du Jing are seeded cause they both are ranked within the top 20 w/ GL at #3 so they are deserving of a seed since they have separate rankings, but Lilyana/Vita are just a new team. I don't see why they don't have to crawl up the rankings to get seeded like everyone else...

On a side note, sucks for Huang Sui who seems to have been ousted from playing for now for some reason. She hasn't been on form lately though.
Hm...I hope Huang Shui is not retiring....someone said that Du Jing is retired..now she is back with Gao Ling......interesting and I would like to see how they play in China.....

jasonmarc
11-05-2007, 03:18 AM
I am happy to see...Tony gunawan/Candra Wijaya is in the list........i really miss them a lot..

TH_4_President
11-05-2007, 08:45 AM
Wow.. Hendra AG with Endang.. Not bad decision since he's not doing that well in MD..
But i do like more Hendra AG pairs up with Lita Nurlita or Jo NOvita

Sandy
11-05-2007, 09:25 AM
But i do like more Hendra AG pairs up with Lita Nurlita or Jo NOvita

I also prefer Hendra paired again with Lita Nurlita. This pair was 1st choice in INA Jr team in WJC 2000.

tommy_bun
11-05-2007, 09:50 AM
I saw Gao ling/zhao tingting seeded 5

hcyong
11-05-2007, 10:40 AM
Some of criteria are not clear...........you can see XD or WD where SEY ( country) where its WD or XD is seeded higher than from Taiwanese eventhough Taiwanese ranks much higher.....

Even gao Ling/Du Jing is seeded quite high eventhough they never play together before in international event....

BWF has a lot works to do if they want badminton goes to fully professionally like Tennis in future....

It is clearly stated in the regulations. Look at Section 9 of http://www.internationalbadminton.org/PDF%20-%20Regulations/197%20APPENDIX%206%20-%20WORLD%20RANKING%20SYSTEM.pdf

There are two ways a pair can be seeded higher than their world ranking.

1. A newly-forged pair but with high rankings with previous partners, as in the case of Gao Ling/ZTT or DJ. (see Section 9.3)

2. A pair with only less than 10 tournaments, as in the case of Vita/Butet. (See Section 9.4)

In fact, the mistake they made in Version 2 was taking 5 tournaments into account, when they should have taken just 4, which is the number of tournaments they have completed at the seeding deadline (I did not check, just assumed their mistake).

robin7
11-05-2007, 11:38 AM
I can't open the excel file. Can taufik-ist capture it into jpg format & post it here like what u did for the Danish & French Open? Thanks.

taufik-ist
11-05-2007, 11:43 AM
I can't open the excel file. Can taufik-ist capture it into jpg format & post it here like what u did for the Danish & French Open? Thanks.

right away sir :D

robin7
11-05-2007, 11:46 AM
right away sir :D
makasih........:D

taufik-ist
11-05-2007, 11:58 AM
sorry.. agak lambat :D...
http://img260.imageshack.us/img260/7109/ms1zr3.jpg
http://i23.tinypic.com/30jjtp1.jpg

taufik-ist
11-05-2007, 12:04 PM
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taufik-ist
11-05-2007, 12:13 PM
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taufik-ist
11-05-2007, 12:19 PM
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taufik-ist
11-05-2007, 12:25 PM
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robin7
11-05-2007, 12:43 PM
The seedings are a bit unexpected. Chen Hong is unseeded and so is Wong Mew Choo (both at 9th position). Wong/Chin are again unseeded at position 10th, right behind the tomboys. Sony and Taufik are seeded 7th and 8th respectively. I don't think this is final yet.

badMania
11-05-2007, 06:26 PM
The seedings are a bit unexpected. Chen Hong is unseeded and so is Wong Mew Choo (both at 9th position). Wong/Chin are again unseeded at position 10th, right behind the tomboys. Sony and Taufik are seeded 7th and 8th respectively. I don't think this is final yet.

The seedings are out and are based on the rankings as of 1 Nov 2007.

For MS: Taufik is not seeded. Sony is seeded 7th.
For WS: Wong Mew Choo is not seeded.
For WD: Gao Ling/Zhao Ting Ting (note, not Du Jing as in the early version) is seeded 5th. Thankfully, Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir are seeded 6th, which means no top Chinese pairs in the early rounds, although they might encounter pairs like Pan Pan/Tian Qing.

badMania
11-05-2007, 06:36 PM
Full seedings:
MEN'S SINGLES
1. Lin Dan
2. Lee Chong Wei
3. Chen Jin
4. Bao Chunlai
5. Peter Gade
6. Chen Yu
7. Sony Dwi Kuncoro
8. Kenneth Jonassen

MEN'S DOUBLES
1. Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
2. Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun
3. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
4. Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya
5. Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
6. Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
7. Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen
8. Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man

WOMEN'S SINGLES
1. Xie Xingfang
2. Zhang Ning
3. Lu Lan
4. Zhu Lin
5. Wang Chen
6. Pi Hongyan
7. Xu Huaiwen
8. Petya Nedeltcheva

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
1. Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen
2. Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen
3. Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung
4. Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
5. Gao Ling/Zhao Tingting
6. Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir
7. Gail Emms/Donna Kellogg
8. Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota

MIXED DOUBLES
1. Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
2. Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
3. Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms
4. Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
5. Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
6. Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg
7. Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl
8. He Hanbin/Yu Yang

huangkwokhau
11-05-2007, 07:07 PM
Full seedings:
MEN'S SINGLES
1. Lin Dan
2. Lee Chong Wei
3. Chen Jin
4. Bao Chunlai
5. Peter Gade
6. Chen Yu
7. Sony Dwi Kuncoro
8. Kenneth Jonassen

MEN'S DOUBLES
1. Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong
2. Fu Haifeng/Cai Yun
3. Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan
4. Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya
5. Jung Jae Sung/Lee Yong Dae
6. Choong Tan Fook/Lee Wan Wah
7. Jens Eriksen/Martin Lundgaard Hansen
8. Lee Jae Jin/Hwang Ji Man

WOMEN'S SINGLES
1. Xie Xingfang
2. Zhang Ning
3. Lu Lan
4. Zhu Lin
5. Wang Chen
6. Pi Hongyan
7. Xu Huaiwen
8. Petya Nedeltcheva

WOMEN'S DOUBLES
1. Wei Yili/Zhang Yawen
2. Yang Wei/Zhang Jiewen
3. Lee Kyung Won/Lee Hyo Jung
4. Chien Yu-Chin/Cheng Wen-Hsing
5. Gao Ling/Zhao Tingting
6. Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir
7. Gail Emms/Donna Kellogg
8. Kumiko Ogura/Reiko Shiota

MIXED DOUBLES
1. Zheng Bo/Gao Ling
2. Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir
3. Nathan Robertson/Gail Emms
4. Xie Zhongbo/Zhang Yawen
5. Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa
6. Anthony Clark/Donna Kellogg
7. Thomas Laybourn/Kamilla Rytter-Juhl
8. He Hanbin/Yu Yang

I think thats version 1...they have updated yesterday till version 3...I believe that they will use Version 3 for final seeding....if I am not wrong..

huangkwokhau
11-05-2007, 07:14 PM
Hm..now they have Version 4....there is a note " oraganizer to rank the pairs"....what does it mean???

hcyong
11-05-2007, 09:16 PM
Hm..now they have Version 4....there is a note " oraganizer to rank the pairs"....what does it mean???

I just realised Version 2 is actually the correct one (and Version 4 is the wrong one, how misleading). Version 4 takes rankings on Oct 24, while Version 2 rightly takes rankings on Nov 1.

badMania
11-05-2007, 10:03 PM
I just realised Version 2 is actually the correct one (and Version 4 is the wrong one, how misleading). Version 4 takes rankings on Oct 24, while Version 2 rightly takes rankings on Nov 1.

The one I posted is Version 2...which should be the correct one.

huangkwokhau
11-05-2007, 10:07 PM
But the drawing date is Nov 8 which they may use the new ranking./...let me ask them today...

huangkwokhau
11-05-2007, 10:11 PM
BWF confirmed that they will use Version 2 or by ranking by Nov 1, 2007...it is clear now....so why they need to update version 3 or 4.....haiya!! so misleading!

hcyong
11-05-2007, 10:27 PM
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/draws.asp

01-11-07 is the seeding date. They won't use other dates. This has always been the case.

The M/Q Report is only to determine the main draw and qualifying draw entries (and also reserves if neccessary). The seedings for all events (based on ranking 01-11) are correct. I have checked.

hcyong
11-05-2007, 10:31 PM
BWF confirmed that they will use Version 2 or by ranking by Nov 1, 2007...it is clear now....so why they need to update version 3 or 4.....haiya!! so misleading!

The M/Q report is Version 4. The seedings are all Version 2. They are 2 different documents, it should not be misunderstood that Version 4 is newer than Version 2. A bit misleading, got a bit confused myself also.

There could be new versions if there are withdrawals.

badMania
11-05-2007, 11:40 PM
But the drawing date is Nov 8 which they may use the new ranking./...let me ask them today...

The draw date is TODAY, 6th November. The seeding for the Hong Kong Open is 8th November, with draws being made on 13th November.

huangkwokhau
11-06-2007, 06:53 AM
The use of version 1, not 2...haiya! TH is not seeded but Butet/Vita is seeded....mix feeling for me..........