View Full Version : Badzine Fair-Play Trophy for Flandy


daniel2323
11-06-2007, 04:08 AM
...Flandy Limpele didn't come to Paris for nothing and he returns to Indonesia with two trophies. First of all and most importantly, the mixed doubles. He and his partner Vita Marissa were just too strong for Xie Zhongbo and Zhang Yawen.
Flandy's nonchalant yet efficient style worked wonders and soon the Indonesians were declared winners in straight games 21/11, 21/15. Flandy, who was in Paris together with his wife and three young kids, was also awarded another trophy : the Badzine Fair-Play Trophy, awarded for the 4th year in Paris.
"Flandy is just a great person, he, unlike others, is always polite, always says thanks when we give him a new shuttle. He has great sportsmanship," said Jean Pierre Strady, one of the umpires who voted for Flandy. Chen Jin had also been nominated after he had asked the public to applaude Gade's performance in the quarter final, but it was Limpele's overall attitude which got him the prize.
http://www.internationalbadminton.org/newscontent.asp?pageid={69344D04-5D98-45A4-8C3A-6B01C3B22D2A}

ya flandy limpele is a nice guy :)
congrats kebotttttttt...!!

robin7
11-06-2007, 04:13 AM
IMO, the "Gamesmanship award" should go to Fu/Cai who.... *cough*

Hierkommtnils
11-06-2007, 05:28 AM
IMO, the "Gamesmanship award" should go to Fu/Cai who.... *cough*

I think Fu/Cai should get the Swatch-Award...

ye333
11-06-2007, 07:33 AM
What did Fu/Cai do? I don't see anything suspicious. :confused:

IMO, the "Gamesmanship award" should go to Fu/Cai who.... *cough*

Hierkommtnils
11-06-2007, 08:12 AM
Hmm, lets say... they need some time between the rallies...

The audience hooted them not without reason :mad:

huangkwokhau
11-06-2007, 08:14 AM
Flandy deserved the award after many years in Badminton..I am sure that they did not award Flandy based on this year only...right???

chgoh25
11-06-2007, 08:15 AM
yea.. im oblivious to it too..

zqloy
11-06-2007, 08:25 AM
Hmm, lets say... they need some time between the rallies...

The audience hooted them not without reason :mad:

Esp Cai is the the one keep playing the delaying tactics.

george@chongwei
11-06-2007, 08:28 AM
i juz know that the trophy is a badzine fair play trophy...

Jessica
11-06-2007, 08:29 AM
Esp Cai is the the one keep playing the delaying tactics.
I also notice that.When Chong/Lee prepare to serve,Cai will raise his hand to stop it.He did it for several times.

bananakid
11-06-2007, 10:11 AM
I also notice that.When Chong/Lee prepare to serve,Cai will raise his hand to stop it.He did it for several times.

Watch the Thomas cup match 2006 between Denmark vs KKK/CCM, and look for yourself the number of times KKK/CCM delayed the match to the point that CCM was given a yellow card to start with, and eventually work up to a red card.:rolleyes: He just ignored the umpire's warning of not allowing towel down, and he just kept walking toward his racket bag searching for his towel.

robin7
11-06-2007, 11:14 AM
I think Fu/Cai should get the Swatch-Award...
What did Fu/Cai do? I don't see anything suspicious. :confused:
Hmm, lets say... they need some time between the rallies...

The audience hooted them not without reason :mad:
Esp Cai is the the one keep playing the delaying tactics.
I also notice that.When Chong/Lee prepare to serve,Cai will raise his hand to stop it.He did it for several times.
It happened in so many occasions including WC07 QF.

bananakid
11-06-2007, 11:34 AM
Delay the opponent serve is nothing compare to trying to steal a point from the Japanese pair, when obviously Koo/Tan knew the umpire made a mistake... The crowd didn't boo them for no reason...:rolleyes:

I bet Rexy is now reading Koo/Tan a bed time story about how honesty help G.Washington when G.W was a kid.:p

ben95
11-06-2007, 12:10 PM
Delay the opponent serve is nothing compare to trying to steal a point from the Japanese pair, when obviously Koo/Tan knew the umpire made a mistake... The crowd didn't boo them for no reason...:rolleyes:

The crowd was booing the umpire.

I have the solution for this delaying problem: Just do a low flick serve in tha opponent face and says "ooops, sorry i didn't see you weren't ready".
As he probably has the lowered head, you don't hit him in the eyes (which is the only dangereous place to be hit)

There were a similar problem in soccer when a fault was whistled, the guilty player or his partner stay in front of the ball to slow the offensive.

ye333
11-06-2007, 12:26 PM
Again! :D

I think KKK clearly showed his opinion by brushing the shuttlecock into the Jap. half court right after the rally (of course that's his acknowledgment that the Japanese pair should serve next, right?). It's the umpire who was kind of ridiculous. :cool:

Delay the opponent serve is nothing compare to trying to steal a point from the Japanese pair, when obviously Koo/Tan knew the umpire made a mistake... The crowd didn't boo them for no reason...:rolleyes:

I bet Rexy is now reading Koo/Tan a bed time story about how honesty help G.Washington when G.W was a kid.:p

luyi80
11-06-2007, 09:32 PM
Watch the Thomas cup match 2006 between Denmark vs KKK/CCM, and look for yourself the number of times KKK/CCM delayed the match to the point that CCM was given a yellow card to start with, and eventually work up to a red card.:rolleyes: He just ignored the umpire's warning of not allowing towel down, and he just kept walking toward his racket bag searching for his towel.

Well, if I'm not mistaken, CCM was given the red card bcoz of the umpire thought that he was too arrogant when they won a point, with he showing his fist to his opponent. 1st time, he was given the yellow card, then another time, at the crucial stage, he was given the red card coz umpire saying that he shouted at his opponent with his fist on. I had to admit that the Msian pairs did play the delaying tactics in this game, coz the situation was really tense in the deciding game. Lots of players doin this, including Fu/Cai.

Besides, the red card given out caused by delaying tactic, if I'm not mistaken again, was ZN. But I forgot in which match in UC 2006. Anyone can clarify this for me?

Louisa
11-06-2007, 10:08 PM
Well, if I'm not mistaken, CCM was given the red card bcoz of the umpire thought that he was too arrogant when they won a point, with he showing his fist to his opponent. 1st time, he was given the yellow card, then another time, at the crucial stage, he was given the red card coz umpire saying that he shouted at his opponent with his fist on. I had to admit that the Msian pairs did play the delaying tactics in this game, coz the situation was really tense in the deciding game. Lots of players doin this, including Fu/Cai.

Besides, the red card given out caused by delaying tactic, if I'm not mistaken again, was ZN. But I forgot in which match in UC 2006. Anyone can clarify this for me?
Hmmm, i remember this match quite clearly...very angry after tat match, really wanna 'slap' that umpire using my sharp PAWS:mad::mad::mad:
During that match, CCM did delayed n ignored umpire's instructions...but the yellow n red card incidents were because of he was 'caught' by the umpire showing his fist + shout to the opponent....which IMHO, he was just too excited and to motivate himself...in fact, this is the normal practise of players...u see, my Zhang Ning shouted so much in DO semi final against WC:D:D:D

Zhang Ning's match, she was red carded i think because she asked for towel down a few times but the umpire refused, then suddenly the umpire gave her red card when she was abit slow walking back to the court...U know, Zhang Ning just smile sweetly at the umpire...

For these 2 matches, Gillian Clark was the commentator, commented that the umpires were 'RIDICULOUS':mad:

luyi80
11-06-2007, 10:17 PM
Zhang Ning's match, she was red carded i think because she asked for towel down a few times but the umpire refused, then suddenly the umpire gave her red card when she was abit slow walking back to the court...U know, Zhang Ning just smile sweetly at the umpire...


Ya ya, this recall me somemore. As ZN asked for the floor to be mopped, the umpire refused, n she used her own towel to mop the floor herself, hahAHA...really funny, n give a big SLAP to the umpire's face! :D But i really can't remember who's that ridiculous umpire! :mad:

Louisa
11-06-2007, 10:21 PM
:eek::eek::eek::eek:
wah, then the umpire must be very embarassing....ZN is really THE GREAT!!!!:D, slap the umpire's face using her racquet...:D

ronnie14
11-07-2007, 01:21 AM
congrats to flandy..i met him during wc..he was nice :)

pjswift
11-07-2007, 02:30 AM
Hmmm, i remember this match quite clearly...very angry after tat match, really wanna 'slap' that umpire using my sharp PAWS:mad::mad::mad:
During that match, CCM did delayed n ignored umpire's instructions...but the yellow n red card incidents were because of he was 'caught' by the umpire showing his fist + shout to the opponent....which IMHO, he was just too excited and to motivate himself...in fact, this is the normal practise of players...u see, my Zhang Ning shouted so much in DO semi final against WC:D:D:D

Zhang Ning's match, she was red carded i think because she asked for towel down a few times but the umpire refused, then suddenly the umpire gave her red card when she was abit slow walking back to the court...U know, Zhang Ning just smile sweetly at the umpire...

For these 2 matches, Gillian Clark was the commentator, commented that the umpires were 'RIDICULOUS':mad:
G. Clark is a great commentator except for matches involving LD and ZN.Then she would lose her compass because she worships both players and loses her credibility temporarily.
But your ZN is no saint or role model. She was badly behaved in FO semi vs Pi, don't you think so? She strutted like she's the queen and tried to impose herself as one;she forgot she's in France and not China.XXF and Pi must be so gentle and ladylike compared to her.Maybe you can give ZN some etiquette lessons.

Felicia_txh
11-07-2007, 03:06 AM
As a conclusion,tat's not player's problem..Umpire should be rational when they do some decision..AND ZN's attitude is nice..

zqloy
11-07-2007, 03:25 AM
Again! :D

I think KKK clearly showed his opinion by brushing the shuttlecock into the Jap. half court right after the rally (of course that's his acknowledgment that the Japanese pair should serve next, right?). It's the umpire who was kind of ridiculous. :cool:

After all the protesting drama, when they were about to resume the game, TBH actually hit the shuttle for the Japs as an acknowledgement for them to serve and both of raised their racket as apology.

luyi80
11-07-2007, 03:30 AM
Well, ZN was frustrated during the match vs Pi in FO 2007, but that was bcoz there were bad calls during the match. Hmm... I think ZN's attitute is among the best in CHN team, as I experienced myself during MO 2006. During OG 2004, ZN vs Mia, there were bad calls as well, she did protest but accepted it and continue to play, which I think is a role model for young players. I never see ZN reacted to a line call like that before, she's always calm. So, ZN's "badly behaved" proved that there was bad call, otherwise, with so many titles, no point for her to react like that. No offense, just my opinion.

Louisa
11-07-2007, 03:32 AM
But your ZN is no saint or role model. She was badly behaved in FO semi vs Pi, don't you think so? She strutted like she's the queen and tried to impose herself as one;she forgot she's in France and not China.XXF and Pi must be so gentle and ladylike compared to her.Maybe you can give ZN some etiquette lessons.

With her passion in badminton, if she is not saint in badminton arena, then Who???
Nevertheless, i agree with u that ZN was badly behaved in FO semi vs PI.
From my past experience, following much of her matches, from Olympic 04 till now, this was my first time saw ZN with such reaction n being booed by the audience....I remembered in OG04, there were a couple of close calls where ZN did protest but not to FO07 extent...therefore, IMHO, with such reaction in FO07, i think the call was wild, considering how ZN carrying herself in the past....look at the scoreline, i think it was 19-18 to ZN, 'if' the call is 'good', it may change the whole scenario. Of coz, applause shud be given to Lady Pi, for playing well in the match. Credit can't taken away from Pi, as she played agressive game thru out the match.

Syaoran_Style
11-07-2007, 04:06 AM
Of course Zhang Ning's attitude is far from being the best in the circuit !
Does anyone remember UC06 final against Mia, She knew the shuttle was going out, but everytime she shouted just to see if the linejudge would say it's on the line ... I respect Zhang Ning for her career, but can't accept those kind of playing.
In FO, i was just in front of the match, Zhang Ning threw her racquet on the floor and shouted when the linejudge said it's on the line .. You'll never see Pi Hongyan or XXF doing this. Whenever Pi Hongyan is in china she already knows she will have to fight against the players, the umpire and the linejudges, but as Peter Gade told me it's a part of the game.

Overall i was quite disapointed with some chinese payers attitude, really acting like divas ..

Well, we should now just go back to the topic ! The trophy was given by Badzine (www.badzine.info), but the winner has been chosen by all the umpires. Flandy is indeed a very nice player and in my opinion he deserved that title ( well it's true that in the beginning he wasn't suppose to have it =p ), But i really Hope that this kind of trophy will boost players to act more formally on court =)

Louisa
11-07-2007, 05:11 AM
Well, syaoran, thanks for your comments n remarks. It is true that players shud behave themselves during the match...i think it is when under certain circumtances that they react too much...

alfa-2
11-07-2007, 06:25 AM
Delay the opponent serve is nothing compare to trying to steal a point from the Japanese pair, when obviously Koo/Tan knew the umpire made a mistake... The crowd didn't boo them for no reason...:rolleyes:

I bet Rexy is now reading Koo/Tan a bed time story about how honesty help G.Washington when G.W was a kid.:p

bed time stories will do them good?? i doubt..........read those stories to LYB too..........:D:D:D

chgoh25
11-07-2007, 10:14 AM
if ZN really is reacting like this.. means it must have had a huge impact on her.. otherwise not the latter..

pjswift
11-08-2007, 12:54 AM
Well, syaoran, thanks for your comments n remarks. It is true that players shud behave themselves during the match...i think it is when under certain circumtances that they react too much...
With her experience, there's no reason for ZN to 'react too much under certain circumstances'.ZN was very clear about what she wanted to achieve.She knew she had credibility and as syaoran observed,she shouted as if she's hit an on-the-line winner even when aware her shot's going out,hoping to influence the line judge.Well, the French have shown they won't be intimidated by someone with countless titles and are too smart for her gamesmanship.
But if it were you or Felicia or the veteran commentator G.Clark, she will get her way because you applied logical thinking and believed she will not make a big fuss unless she's sure, given her unmatched career to date.ZN might be able to get away in AE,not FO.Bravo, France!(Hmm..she shouted a lot in DO final vs WC;did the DO judges get conned, I wonder but ZN did play well there)
By the way,having a passion does not make one a saint;a saint is very humble, patient,pure in heart and upright in life.
This is my final post on ZN here. I'm not trying to taint her or upset her fans but I feel very strongly her halo's got to go.

Louisa
11-08-2007, 02:54 AM
This is my final post on ZN here. I'm not trying to taint her or upset her fans but I feel very strongly her halo's got to go.

pjswift, i have no hard feeling on your comments as i m a logical person that strongly believe that we all possess different personalities and point of view...

i can't change your feeling towards ZN, u can't change my admiration towards her...

no matter how we debate here, you and me, can't change her.:D

Louisa
11-08-2007, 02:56 AM
i m just wondering, who is having clearer view, sitting in front of tv or sitting in the stadium?

anyone, kindly advise????

luyi80
11-08-2007, 03:31 AM
Hmm... looks like ZN still the GREAT eventhough she may come to the end of her career, for attracted ppl to comment on her attitute during FO. :D:D:D Well well well, I'm not a big fan of her, like Louisa, and during that match, I was on Pi's side. But, as seen fr my tv, there was a bad call when the scoreline was 19-18 in favour of ZN. Anyway, I think no point for us to arguing here, players r human, sometimes they may over-react, juz like LD during MO'06, so, no comment! ~Peace~ :p

robin7
11-08-2007, 06:23 AM
Hmm... looks like ZN still the GREAT eventhough she may come to the end of her career, for attracted ppl to comment on her attitute during FO. :D:D:D Well well well, I'm not a big fan of her, like Louisa, and during that match, I was on Pi's side. But, as seen fr my tv, there was a bad call when the scoreline was 19-18 in favour of ZN. Anyway, I think no point for us to arguing here, players r human, sometimes they may over-react, juz like LD during MO'06, so, no comment! ~Peace~ :p
Frankly, we couldn't tell from the TV replay whether the return by PHY went long or clipped on the line during the 2nd game while ZN was leading 19-18. I just sensed that the shuttlecock went long and the scoreline should have been 20-18 in ZN's favor. In fact, I was a bit annoyed by ZN's reations in the whole match. Well, such things happen in some matches, and so happen that ZN was the unlucky ones.