View Full Version : Vietnam Grand Prix :Sunday (nov11,2007)


leonardklh
11-10-2007, 08:42 AM
indeed tomorrow is the last day of vietnam open 2007!! all the finals are intresting!!! hope roslin will win!!!

george@chongwei
11-10-2007, 08:57 AM
the final fixture for 2moro...
am i right??

XD
Hoi Wah Chau /Wai Ho Hui (HKG ) v Yulianti (Cj) /Tantowi Akhmad (INA )

MD
Myeong Won Kang [7] /Gun Woo Cho (KOR ) v Yi Goo Kwon /Sung Hyun Ko (KOR )

WD
Nathalia Christine Poluakan /Yulianti Cj (INA ) v Hoi Wah Chau [2] /Wai Chee Louisa Koon (HKG )

WS
Yu Hirayama [4] (JPN ) v Jingjing Zhu (CHN )

MS
Andre Kurniawan Tedjono [8] (INA ) v Roslin Hashim M. [2] (MAS )

TH_4_President
11-10-2007, 09:03 AM
the final fixture for 2moro...
am i right??

XD
Hoi Wah Chau /Wai Ho Hui (HKG ) v Yulianti (Cj) /Tantowi Akhmad (INA )

MD
Myeong Won Kang [7] /Gun Woo Cho (KOR ) v Yi Goo Kwon /Sung Hyun Ko (KOR )

WD
Nathalia Christine Poluakan /Yulianti Cj (INA ) v Hoi Wah Chau [2] /Wai Chee Louisa Koon (HKG )

WS
Yu Hirayama [4] (JPN ) v Jingjing Zhu (CHN )

MS
Andre Kurniawan Tedjono [8] (INA ) v Roslin Hashim M. [2] (MAS )
My prediction :D, I hope 3 INAs will prevail and bring home 3 titles for INA, INDONESIA..dung dung dung dung dung !! :D:D:D:D

Krisna
11-10-2007, 01:20 PM
XD
Hoi Wah Chau /Wai Ho Hui (HKG ) v Yulianti (Cj) /Tantowi Akhmad (INA )

MD
Myeong Won Kang [7] /Gun Woo Cho (KOR ) v Yi Goo Kwon /Sung Hyun Ko (KOR )

WD
Nathalia Christine Poluakan /Yulianti Cj (INA ) v Hoi Wah Chau [2] /Wai Chee Louisa Koon (HKG )

WS
Yu Hirayama [4] (JPN ) v Jingjing Zhu (CHN )

MS
Andre Kurniawan Tedjono [8] (INA ) v Roslin Hashim M. [2] (MAS )

My prediction is in red... I guess... identical with TH_4_President's predictions... :D

justin-terbalik
11-10-2007, 01:39 PM
the final fixture for 2moro...
am i right??

XD
Hoi Wah Chau /Wai Ho Hui (HKG ) v Yulianti (Cj) /Tantowi Akhmad (INA )

MD
Myeong Won Kang [7] /Gun Woo Cho (KOR ) v Yi Goo Kwon /Sung Hyun Ko (KOR )

WD
Nathalia Christine Poluakan /Yulianti Cj (INA ) v Hoi Wah Chau [2] /Wai Chee Louisa Koon (HKG )

WS
Yu Hirayama [4] (JPN ) v Jingjing Zhu (CHN )

MS
Andre Kurniawan Tedjono [8] (INA ) v Roslin Hashim M. [2] (MAS )

INA will take 3 titles here....do ur best because after olympic 2008 most senior player will retired and u guys are expected to replace them....

"ANDRE TEDJONO FOR YOUNG MINISTER=menteri muda"

justin-terbalik
11-10-2007, 01:44 PM
DJARUM's Best MEN SINGLE : ANDRE TEDJONO and TAUFIQ AKBAR...but why we never see ANDRE in SS????

edwin
11-10-2007, 02:10 PM
I'm going to go against the flow and predict that Indo will win 2 titles while HK will win 1.

chemile
11-10-2007, 02:25 PM
DJARUM's Best MEN SINGLE : ANDRE TEDJONO and TAUFIQ AKBAR...but why we never see ANDRE in SS????

Andre's rank is not enough to enter SS main draw. I think the strategy of Djarum to only play in Grand Prix is good. ANdre can feel tournament atmosphere and gradually increase his level. Better a champion in one or two level below SS than always lost in 1st round SS. It will drop his confidence.

badMania
11-10-2007, 06:30 PM
Taufiq Akbar in Djarum? I don't think so :cool:

I hope INA can win 3 titles here....despite the disappointment in MD.

badMania
11-10-2007, 06:48 PM
MEN'S SINGLES
Andre Kurniawan Tedjono vs Mohd Roslin Hashim -- Andre has yet again surprised in another GP event and he may well win his second titles in Hanoi.

MEN'S DOUBLES
Cho Gun Woo/Kang Myeong Won vs Kwon Yi Goo/Ko Sung Hyun -- an all-KOR Final and I think the more senior pairing of Cho/Kang to take it.

WOMEN'S SINGLES
Hirayama Yuvs Zhu Jingjing -- the Chinese player to win!

WOMEN DOUBLES
Nathalia Poluakan/Yulianti vs Louisa Koon Wai Chee/Chau Hoi Wah -- Yulianti can win her second titles of the tourney if her scratch partership with Nathalia can beat the second-seed.

MIXED DOUBLES
Chau Hoi Wah/Hui Wai Ho v Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti -- Tantowi/Yulianti should take their first GP title and their 3rd titles of the year and confirm their status as INA's most promising XD back-up pair.

taufik-ist
11-10-2007, 10:45 PM
Taufiq Akbar in Djarum? I don't think so :cool:

I hope INA can win 3 titles here....despite the disappointment in MD.

taufiq is suryanaga's player

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:14 AM
It just starts with XD now............

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:24 AM
20-8 in the 1st game for Tantowi-Yulianti!

anfan2000
11-11-2007, 01:25 AM
21-11 for Tantowi-Yulianti

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:26 AM
Game... 21-11 for INA...

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:29 AM
Taufiq Akbar in Djarum? I don't think so :cool:

I hope INA can win 3 titles here....despite the disappointment in MD.

Taufiq Akbar Hidayat is from SBS
Yulianti, Tantowi, Andre is from Djarum :)
Natalia is from Tangkas... :)

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:30 AM
8-3 in the 2nd game for Tantowi-Yulianti...

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:31 AM
11-5 for the INA pair now...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:33 AM
it stops and starts...so annoying.............

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:33 AM
15-7 now for the Djarum [INA] pair!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:34 AM
INA XD will win this game easily.........

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:34 AM
17-9 now for INA.....

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:35 AM
it stops and starts...so annoying.............

Click on vt@1 again for 'refresh'

By the way, it is now 18-11! :cool:

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:36 AM
19-12 in the 2nd game.... almost there!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:36 AM
Eerrrgg..buffering here and there,,,,,,,errrrrrrr

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:37 AM
Click on vt@1 again for 'refresh'

By the way, it is now 18-11! :cool:
Thanks........so annoying..really..other night was really good..

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:37 AM
21-11, 21-13! Ahmad Tantowi and Yulianti are now 1st time champs of a GP level tournament!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:37 AM
Great INA XD won 21-11, 21-13.......

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:49 AM
The ceremony takes forever................

Krisna
11-11-2007, 01:57 AM
And this WS is going to take forever too... I want to see that MS match!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:58 AM
3-2 for Hirayama.............quite pretty too.....hm...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 01:59 AM
Come Zhu...win for my PAW...hehe..4 all now

Krisna
11-11-2007, 02:00 AM
Zhu looks like a sister of Greysia Polii... He he he...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:01 AM
7-5 for Zhu now.........

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:02 AM
Zhu looks like a sister of Greysia Polii... He he he...
I think Polii is a bit prettier...IMO..:D

Krisna
11-11-2007, 02:05 AM
I think Polii is a bit prettier...IMO..:D

Yes, of course... :D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:09 AM
14-8 NOW FOR zjj............

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:11 AM
19-9 NOW FOR zjj...SHE WILL WRAP 1ST easily

george@chongwei
11-11-2007, 02:12 AM
i wonder y taufiq hidayat akhbar never play in this tournament?...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:13 AM
i wonder y taufiq hidayat akhbar never play in this tournament?...
Not enough money.....:D:D I do hope that Vietnam will offer US$ 120 K...will be fun to come and watch............

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:14 AM
ZJJ took 1st set...........

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:15 AM
3-1...good start from ZJJ

jasonmarc
11-11-2007, 02:17 AM
Not enough money.....:D:D I do hope that Vietnam will offer US$ 120 K...will be fun to come and watch............

I tot you already having a lot of fun in Vietnam..:p....? :D:D

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:20 AM
let me join hauge and krisna to cheer ina players

cmonn andre...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:29 AM
I tot you already having a lot of fun in Vietnam..:p....? :D:D
no..no..I did not go...I am in jakarta already......:D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:30 AM
20-10 for ZJJ..match point

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:32 AM
My PAW save...ZJJ def Yu Hirayama..21-10 on 2nd set

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:35 AM
congrats to tantowi/yulianto... :)

blackrose
11-11-2007, 02:37 AM
My PAW save...ZJJ def Yu Hirayama..21-10 on 2nd set

Hi... what full score LS?

badMania
11-11-2007, 02:38 AM
21-11, 21-13! Ahmad Tantowi and Yulianti are now 1st time champs of a GP level tournament!

Congratulations to Tantowi Ahmad/Yulianti. They have won a Satellite event, an International Challenge event and now a GP level event! Next year, they should be primed towards a GP Gold title and hopefully a few Super Series after the Olympics. I am encouraged by their accomplishments so far this year!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:39 AM
Hi... what full score LS?
:D:D I forgot 1st set...it kept buffering.......either 9, 10 or 11 only for Hirayama

badMania
11-11-2007, 02:40 AM
congrats to tantowi/yulianto... :)

Yulianto :confused::eek: Its not a MD event!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:40 AM
Now WD..................

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:41 AM
Yulianto :confused::eek: Its not a MD event!
Give him a break...he just had a few drink.....:D:D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:43 AM
Why do they give Chau and Yulianti only a short break..those 2 just played XD....they should play MD then MS and WD..........

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:43 AM
Yulianto :confused::eek: Its not a MD event!

he... oops sorry i meant yulianti :D... :D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:44 AM
2-0 for INA WD.......

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:46 AM
2-0 for INA WD.......

go.. ina go djarum ....:D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:46 AM
7-4 for INA WD............

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:48 AM
9 all for INA and HKG..oop..10-9 for HKG..come on INA

badMania
11-11-2007, 02:48 AM
The INA pair leads 11-10 at the break.

apontoh
11-11-2007, 02:49 AM
badMania, where are you watching the match? livestreaming?

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:50 AM
10 all now for both

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:51 AM
livestreaming is bad...well..better tha n othing..at least we know who is winning..............

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:51 AM
badMania, where are you watching the match? livestreaming?

open www.vtc.com.vn and choose VT@1

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:51 AM
12-11 for HKG WD....

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:53 AM
go.. ina go djarum ....:D
Only Yulianti is from jarum.......those are pelatnas.......:D what did you drink today???:D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:53 AM
15-14 for INA WD...

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:54 AM
12-11 for HKG WD....

OMG... add more oil for ina wd

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:55 AM
15 all..................

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:56 AM
17 all now................

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 02:57 AM
Only Yulianti is from jarum.......those are pelatnas.......:D what did you drink today???:D

he..he i was wrong.. again :D... i must check my beverage's Expiring..... :D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:57 AM
19 all again..........wow

badMania
11-11-2007, 02:58 AM
What a close shave...the INA pair just edges it 21-19 in the first set.

apontoh
11-11-2007, 02:59 AM
open www.vtc.com.vn (http://www.vtc.com.vn) and choose VT@1
thanks taufik-ist, wow, INA took first set.

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 02:59 AM
now..I do not know who won 1st set...keep stopping!! pls anyone!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:00 AM
Thanks GOd...so frustrating to watch like that!!

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:01 AM
yes... ina wd took 1st set...

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:04 AM
now..I do not know who won 1st set...keep stopping!! pls anyone!

he..he .. lag..lag... buffering 50% :D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:04 AM
4-2 now for INA WD

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:06 AM
Thanks GOd...so frustrating to watch like that!!

he...he.. you better switch to BC :D... badmania can give us thelive score..

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:06 AM
7-4 for INA WD....

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:08 AM
The INA pair leads 11-6 at the interval of the second set. It looks like Nathalia Poluakan can win her first WD title.....

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:08 AM
trus... ina wd.. trus.. cmon

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:10 AM
13-8 for the INA pair now...winning a long rally.

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:11 AM
12-8 FOR ina wd

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:12 AM
13-11 for INA...HKG tries to catch up

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:12 AM
13-9
13-10
13-11
14-11

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:13 AM
Another potential INA wd is Lita/Notya...they are quite agressive...more attacks..hope that they will play in future tournaments....

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:14 AM
15-11 for INA WD.........

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:14 AM
add more oil... Ina WD

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:14 AM
15-11
15-12
15-13 -- relentless attacks by the INA pair, but, they lost the point to HKG

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:15 AM
15-13 now..for INA WD......

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:15 AM
Another attacking spell by the INA pair with them winning the point, 16-13.

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:16 AM
3 straight points make it 18-13....

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:16 AM
17-13 now for INA WD

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:17 AM
18-14
19-14 -- end is near....

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:18 AM
19-15 -- smash by HK pair
20-15 -- out return by HK pair

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:19 AM
18-14
19-14 -- end is near....

yes... finish it :D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:19 AM
come on...INA.......

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:20 AM
YES INA WD won..21-19, 21-15

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:20 AM
Net return by HK pair means Nathalia Poluakan/Yulianti win the WD title in Hanoi. Yulianti bags home 2 titles this week, even without her usual partner, Richi Dili Puspita. I foresee great things for her in WD (whoever it will be) and in XD (with Tantowi Ahmad).

apontoh
11-11-2007, 03:22 AM
how old are these INA WD?

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 03:24 AM
congratz to poluakan/yulianti ........... ina has grabbed 2 tiitles

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:24 AM
Both Yulianti and Nathalia Poluakan were born in 1985.

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:25 AM
Nathalie was paired with Yulianti in last minutes after withdrawal of Richi....what a bless of Disguise...now will PBSI partner Yulianti and Nathalia or not...??

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:25 AM
how old are these INA WD?
Enough to call me " Uncle" haiya...sad..sad..:(:(

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:27 AM
Nathalie was paired wit Yulianti in last minutes after withdrawal of Richi....what a bless of Disguise...now will PBSI partner Yulianti and Nathalia or not...??

Nathalia Poluakan is now without a pair after Lita Nurlita is paired with Nitya Krishinda. I think Yulianti will still be paired with Richi Dili Puspita.

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:34 AM
Nathalia Poluakan is now without a pair after Lita Nurlita is paired with Nitya Krishinda. I think Yulianti will still be paired with Richi Dili Puspita.
Lita is better off with Nitya, not with Nathalia......

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 03:35 AM
Sorry, just came back from work. Is the order of play correct? MS last? Now WD.

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 03:36 AM
Let me know who is winning on MD..I am off a bit

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:39 AM
Suddenly, INA has a pool of talent in the doubles:
Yulianti -- 22 yo. Settled WD and XD partnership with Richi Puspita Dili and Tantowi Ahmad respectively. She's one of the main prospect for the 2012 Olympics in both events.

Mohd Rijal -- 21 yo. Is he the right partner for Greysia Polii in the XD?

Nadya Melati -- 21 yo. Currently paired with Devi Tika Permatasari in WD.

Tantowi Ahmad -- 20 yo. Settled partnership with Yulianti

Greysia Polii -- only 20 this year and I think Pelatnas should utilize her and find her a good WD and XD partner. Jo Novita WILL NOT be a good partner for her :cool:

Bona Septano/Mohd Ahsan -- both 20 yo. Need more exposures next year.

Nitya Krishinda -- 19 yo. Promising partnership with Lita Nurlita (24 yo) in the WD.

Lingga Lie -- poor Lingga, current XD partnership with Devi Tika Permatasari is not working out.

Devi Tika Permatasari -- still a question mark.

Viki Indra Okvana -- 19 yo. Also still a question mark.

Richi Dili Puspita -- 18 yo. Settled partnership in WD with Yulianti. Currently paired with Viki Indra Okvana in XD.

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:45 AM
Kwon/Ko have just taken the first set 21-17.

badMania
11-11-2007, 03:54 AM
Kwon Yi Goo/Koh Sung Hyun have won in straight sets 21-17, 21-12.

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:03 AM
Now is Roslin and Andre

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:10 AM
7-4 for Roslin..I need Andre to win this match

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:12 AM
10-6 for Roslin.......

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:13 AM
12-7 for Roslin...........

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:14 AM
13-9 still for Roslin

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:17 AM
16-11.........for Roslin..come on Andre

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:18 AM
17-12 for Roslin...........

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:20 AM
Roslin took 1st set 21-12

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:21 AM
Who's Roslin's coach? It keeps buffering, didnt get to see the break time

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:24 AM
4-3 for Andre........

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:26 AM
I think Misbun's there with him..? Same club right? Nusa Mahsuri

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:27 AM
7-5 for andre.......

Erwin Kyoto
11-11-2007, 04:27 AM
sorry I am late to come here....
could anybody tell where the livestreaming channel for watching Vietnam open pls?????

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:28 AM
I think Misbun's there with him..? Same club right? Nusa Mahsuri
I do not think so...doesnt look like him though....I cant imagine that Misbun flying from Paris to Hanoi?? could be Rashid

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:28 AM
11-5 for andre..come on

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:29 AM
12-6 still for Andre...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:31 AM
sorry I am late to come here....
could anybody tell where the livestreaming channel for watching Vietnam open pls?????
www.vtc.com.vn.......choose (http://www.vtc.com.vn.......choose) VT@1

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:31 AM
14-8 for andre............

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:33 AM
17-9..I think Andre will take 2nd set

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:33 AM
I do not think so...doesnt look like him though....I cant imagine that Misbun flying from Paris to Hanoi?? could be Rashid
Hmm...maybe so.I'm not watching the live stream...so cannot identify the coach:D Yes...most probably one of the Sidek brothers

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:34 AM
Go Roslin Go!!!

Erwin Kyoto
11-11-2007, 04:34 AM
www.vtc.com.vn.......choose (http://www.vtc.com.vn.......choose) VT@1

thx Huge.....terima kasih;):cool:

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:34 AM
18-12..Roslin got 3 points

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:35 AM
18-13..for Andre

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:35 AM
thx Huge.....terima kasih;):cool:
:mad: my name is not HUGE....:D

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:36 AM
wow..18-16..Roslin is chasing...come on Andre

Erwin Kyoto
11-11-2007, 04:37 AM
:mad: my name is not HUGE....:D

hehehe sorry....maaf:D

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:37 AM
Hmm...Roslin will be tired if this match goes to a rubber...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:37 AM
19-18..scary..come on Andre

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:38 AM
19-20, Roslin come on finish it!!

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:39 AM
Go Go Roslin!!!!

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:39 AM
20 all....haiya..come on Andre

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:40 AM
Gotta give a credit to Roslin to determine to win this match...

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:41 AM
21 all...again..Andree serves

blackrose
11-11-2007, 04:42 AM
Hmm...maybe so.I'm not watching the live stream...so cannot identify the coach:D Yes...most probably one of the Sidek brothers

Yup, Rashid is roslin coach in vietnam open..

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:42 AM
22-21 for Andre..come on,..just one

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:43 AM
I think 22 all..again

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:44 AM
OMG..23 all....lucky Andre

badMania
11-11-2007, 04:44 AM
Roslin Hashim once again shows his fighting spirit as he chased all the way from 9-17 down in the second set and won it 25-23.

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:44 AM
no lucky...24-23...for roslin

samuel882
11-11-2007, 04:45 AM
Roslin is the new comeback king.. and the MJs + IJs killer :p

huangkwokhau
11-11-2007, 04:45 AM
did roslin win???

badMania
11-11-2007, 04:45 AM
did roslin win???

Yes, he won it 25-23 in the second set.

samuel882
11-11-2007, 04:46 AM
25-23 .. Roslin

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:46 AM
Roslin won already ke?

samuel882
11-11-2007, 04:46 AM
AK47 lacks of bullets today:o

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:46 AM
Haha...weee....Congratulations, Roslin Hashim!

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:47 AM
Experience vs youth. Anyway, this young Andre has potential(how young is he again?). Has the mental strength to last a deuce.

X Ball
11-11-2007, 04:47 AM
Good thing you did not bet any satays with me, Huangkwokhau. :)

badMania
11-11-2007, 04:48 AM
Experience vs youth. Anyway, this young Andre has potential(how young is he again?). Has the mental strength to last a deuce.

He's actually not that young :cool:

X Ball
11-11-2007, 04:49 AM
So HKH, can u tell the fake LV from the real on ?

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:50 AM
If hafiz aka Mr Yoyo can have some of his bro's determination......<sigh>. Roslin's 7 years older, but determination 7 times more

X Ball
11-11-2007, 04:51 AM
If hafiz aka Mr Yoyo can have so of his bro's determination......<sigh>. Roslin's 7 years older, but determination 7 times more


Roslin needs the money more than HAfiz. But I think in the next two tournaments, you will find Hafiz will come back. He is getting reasonably fit.

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:53 AM
He's actually not that young :cool:

Oh? How old is ANdre? Look like 21, young ciku when compared with Roslin. The way he play also, Roslin play it cool like the veteran he is.

badMania
11-11-2007, 04:54 AM
Oh? How old is ANdre? Look like 21, young ciku when compared with Roslin. The way he play also, Roslin play it cool like the veteran he is.

I have just checked, he's 20 going on 21 this coming December. I thought he's more like 22/23 :cool:

Yojimbo
11-11-2007, 04:56 AM
Roslin needs the money more than HAfiz. But I think in the next two tournaments, you will find Hafiz will come back. He is getting reasonably fit.
I do hope so....very much:)

X Ball
11-11-2007, 04:58 AM
I do hope so....very much:)

Mark my words. He will do well in the China Masters.

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 04:59 AM
sorrryy, double post, pls refer below

eaglehelang
11-11-2007, 05:03 AM
Roslin needs the money more than HAfiz. But I think in the next two tournaments, you will find Hafiz will come back. He is getting reasonably fit.

To me personally, it's not so much the money, Roslin wants to get Olympic points. Next year is his last chance for OG, he will be 33. Hafiz should thank his lucky stars he got patient Misbun as his coach. If it's Rexy, Cheah SK or Li Mao, he'll be sent packing long time ago, even if he's club player.

I have just checked, he's 20 going on 21 this coming December. I thought he's more like 22/23 :cool:

Ah ha! Me guess correct :). At 22 or 23, he would be playing much better - Indonesia players have fighting spirit, mental strength better, so it's the tehcnical aspects.

alfa-2
11-11-2007, 05:08 AM
If hafiz aka Mr Yoyo can have some of his bro's determination......<sigh>. Roslin's 7 years older, but determination 7 times more

Hafiz has something 7 times more than Roslin, extra 7" on the waist for that delicious fat.............:D:D:D

LI De Quan
11-11-2007, 05:32 AM
Result of WS Final???????

Krisna
11-11-2007, 05:36 AM
Only Yulianti is from jarum.......those are pelatnas.......:D what did you drink today???:D

Tantowi and Andre are from Djarum too... ;) Natalia is from Tangkas... :D

blackrose
11-11-2007, 05:36 AM
TERBUKA VIETNAM 2007: ROSLIN AKHIRI KEMARAU JUARA

PEMAIN utama Kelab Badminton Nusa Mahsuri, Muhammad Roslin Hashim akhirnya mampu tersenyum lega apabila berjaya muncul juara perseorangan lelaki Kejohanan Badminton Grand Prix Terbuka Vietnam 2007 selepas menewaskan bintang muda Indonesia, Andre Kurniawan Tedjono 21-12, 25-23 pada perlawanan akhir yang berlangsung di Kompleks Sukan Quan Ngua, Hanoi sebentar tadi.

Kejayaan ini sekaligus mengakhiri kemarau kejuaraan anak kelahiran Kampung Sireh Kelantan ini sejak dari tahun 2001 lagi semasa beliau dimahkotakan sebagai pemain nombor satu dunia.

Kali terakhir Roslin mengenggam kejuaraan ialah pada tahun 2001 dengan memenangi Terbuka Swissdan Terbuka Jepun dalam tempoh dua minggu berturut-turut.

Bagaimanapun mahkota idaman tersebut seakan tergugat pada satu ketika khususnya di set kedua apabila Andre mendahului jauh 18-12 sebelum Roslin mengubah rentak permainan dan memberi tekanan hingga mampu menyamai kedudukan 20-20.

"Saya memanjatkan rasa syukur kepada Allah Taala impian saya untuk mengapai kejuaraan tercapai jua. Tiada yang lebih indah dalam kehidupan sebagai pemain, kejuaraan adalah detik yang cukup bermakna," ujar Roslin dengan nada ringkas sebaik sahaja tamat perlawanan.

Kem Indonesia yang menerima khabar duka ini tetap pulang gembira apabila berjaya menguasai acara bergu campuran dan wanita manakala China dan Korea masing-masing memenangi acara perseorangan wanita menerusi Zhu Jingjing dan kemantapan pasangan Kwon Yi Goo/Ko Sung Hyun dalam acara bergu lelaki.

KEPUTUSAN PENUH
KEJOHANAN BADMINTON GRAND PRIX TERBUKA VIETNAM YONEX SUNRISE 2007
AKHIR

Bergu Campuran
TANTOWI AKHMAD/YULIANTI mn CHAU HOI WAH/HUI WAI HO (Hkg) 21:11, 21:13

Perseorangan Wanita
ZHU JINGJING (Chn) mn *4 YU HIRAYAMA (Jpn) 21:10, 21:10

Bergu Wanita
YULIANTI/NATHALIE CHRISTINE (Ina) mn *2 CHAU HOI WAH/KOON W.C.LOUISA (Hkg) 21:19, 21:15

Bergu Lelaki
KWON YI GOO/KO SUNG HYUN (Kor) mn *7 KANG MYEONG WON/CHO GUN WOO (Kor) 21:17, 21:12

Perseorangan Lelaki
*2 MUHAMMAD ROSLIN HASHIM (Mas) mn *8 ANDRE KURNIAWAN TEDJONO (Ina) 21:12, 25:23


{Source: http://bulutangkis.web.infoseek.co.jp/nusa}

Krisna
11-11-2007, 05:38 AM
Another potential INA wd is Lita/Notya...they are quite agressive...more attacks..hope that they will play in future tournaments....

I think they are called Lita-Nitya, but surely not Notya... :p Uhm, Nitya is just a bit overweight... :p She looks like she is from Papua. If she becomes successful, she's probably the first Papuan I know who play high level badminton... ;)

CLELY
11-11-2007, 05:45 AM
So, INA bring 2 titles from Hanoi XD and WD. Unfortunately, Andre lost to the veteran Roslin. Actually, INA could grab more than 2 here but MD had failed to reach good result. Congratz for the winners, double joy for Yulianti!

chemile
11-11-2007, 05:46 AM
I think they are called Lita-Nitya (or Nintya), but surely not Notya... :p Uhm, Nitya is just a bit overweight... :p She looks like she is from Papua. If she becomes successful, she's probably the first Papuan I know who play high level badminton... ;)

Nitya is Paulus Korwa's daughter if I don't mistake. Paulus Korwa is physical coach of athletic pelatnas. I don't see any Indonesian woman double players who has good shape or slim after Zelin Resiana..... sigh... probably Indonesia male must married with Russian girls.... :P

TH_4_President
11-11-2007, 06:12 AM
TERBUKA VIETNAM 2007: ROSLIN AKHIRI KEMARAU JUARA

PEMAIN utama Kelab Badminton Nusa Mahsuri, Muhammad Roslin Hashim akhirnya mampu tersenyum lega apabila berjaya muncul juara perseorangan lelaki Kejohanan Badminton Grand Prix Terbuka Vietnam 2007 selepas menewaskan bintang muda Indonesia, Andre Kurniawan Tedjono 21-12, 25-23 pada perlawanan akhir yang berlangsung di Kompleks Sukan Quan Ngua, Hanoi sebentar tadi.

Kejayaan ini sekaligus mengakhiri kemarau kejuaraan anak kelahiran Kampung Sireh Kelantan ini sejak dari tahun 2001 lagi semasa beliau dimahkotakan sebagai pemain nombor satu dunia.

Kali terakhir Roslin mengenggam kejuaraan ialah pada tahun 2001 dengan memenangi Terbuka Swissdan Terbuka Jepun dalam tempoh dua minggu berturut-turut.

Bagaimanapun mahkota idaman tersebut seakan tergugat pada satu ketika khususnya di set kedua apabila Andre mendahului jauh 18-12 sebelum Roslin mengubah rentak permainan dan memberi tekanan hingga mampu menyamai kedudukan 20-20.

"Saya memanjatkan rasa syukur kepada Allah Taala impian saya untuk mengapai kejuaraan tercapai jua. Tiada yang lebih indah dalam kehidupan sebagai pemain, kejuaraan adalah detik yang cukup bermakna," ujar Roslin dengan nada ringkas sebaik sahaja tamat perlawanan.

Kem Indonesia yang menerima khabar duka ini tetap pulang gembira apabila berjaya menguasai acara bergu campuran dan wanita manakala China dan Korea masing-masing memenangi acara perseorangan wanita menerusi Zhu Jingjing dan kemantapan pasangan Kwon Yi Goo/Ko Sung Hyun dalam acara bergu lelaki.

KEPUTUSAN PENUH
KEJOHANAN BADMINTON GRAND PRIX TERBUKA VIETNAM YONEX SUNRISE 2007
AKHIR

Bergu Campuran
TANTOWI AKHMAD/YULIANTI mn CHAU HOI WAH/HUI WAI HO (Hkg) 21:11, 21:13

Perseorangan Wanita
ZHU JINGJING (Chn) mn *4 YU HIRAYAMA (Jpn) 21:10, 21:10

Bergu Wanita
YULIANTI/NATHALIE CHRISTINE (Ina) mn *2 CHAU HOI WAH/KOON W.C.LOUISA (Hkg) 21:19, 21:15

Bergu Lelaki
KWON YI GOO/KO SUNG HYUN (Kor) mn *7 KANG MYEONG WON/CHO GUN WOO (Kor) 21:17, 21:12

Perseorangan Lelaki
*2 MUHAMMAD ROSLIN HASHIM (Mas) mn *8 ANDRE KURNIAWAN TEDJONO (Ina) 21:12, 25:23

{Source: http://bulutangkis.web.infoseek.co.jp/nusa}

well, I've misspredicted 2 matches, unfortunate that Andre lost, he is yet to prove that he deserve to be titled as Menteri Muda "young minister":p, but respect for what he has shown so far, about ALL KOR MD final, I didn't really sure about prediction, never heard them all..congrats for all champs :cool:, INDONESIA JAYA :D:D:D:D

robin7
11-11-2007, 06:14 AM
Perseorangan Lelaki
*2 MUHAMMAD ROSLIN HASHIM (Mas) mn *8 ANDRE KURNIAWAN TEDJONO (Ina) 21:12, 25:23
Syabas, Roslin won his first title since Japan Open 2001. Congratulations. Andre has also been doing well by upsetting the top seed Chen Yu in QF.

PlayaFromMalaya
11-11-2007, 06:58 AM
Mark my words. He will do well in the China Masters.

china masters? i thought china masters is already over? :rolleyes:

jasonmarc
11-11-2007, 07:43 AM
Congratulation,....to Roslin ....who have showed tremendous fighting spirit in this tounament....proud of U.....common Hafiz....Your elder bro. can do it socan U brace up....in China OPen...

Sandy
11-11-2007, 08:23 AM
Nitya is daughter of former National Soccer from Papua, Panus Korwa.
Also Yulianti was born in 1987 (20 years old)

Krisna
11-11-2007, 09:39 AM
Nitya is daughter of former National Soccer from Papua, Panus Korwa.
Also Yulianti was born in 1987 (20 years old)

Wow, that's interesting...:) Note: Nitya's former partner Nadia is the daughter of Eli Idris, a famous INA soccer player in the 1980s... I saw Eli watching Nadia during the Indonesian Superliga Badminton in July... :cool:

george@chongwei
11-11-2007, 10:24 AM
Congratulations to Roslin Hashim for winning the mens single title.:)

taufik-ist
11-11-2007, 10:37 AM
Wow, that's interesting...:) Note: Nitya's former partner Nadia is the daughter of Eli Idris, a famous INA soccer player in the 1980s... I saw Eli watching Nadia during the Indonesian Superliga Badminton in July... :cool:

abit off topic
eli idris... hmm i remember him.. :D he was a member of PPD (pra piala dunia) 1986 ina team coached by sinyo aliandoe.. indonesia almost qualified to worldcup 1986 but failed becos south korea beat indonesia in final playoff group

USAfan
11-11-2007, 11:26 AM
Mark my words. He will do well in the China Masters.

Is he getting all the help and resorce from BAM ? Revival of the oldies !!!!!!
Get him and WCH all the help, since we cannot depend on the young Hafiz for now. Hope Misbun can motivate Hafiz into a calibre player like LCW. :rolleyes:

fastdrop
11-11-2007, 12:09 PM
Is he getting all the help and resorce from BAM ? Revival of the oldies !!!!!!
Get him and WCH all the help, since we cannot depend on the young Hafiz for now. Hope Misbun can motivate Hafiz into a calibre player like LCW. :rolleyes:

Hafiz did play well in the last French Open. Unfortunately, luck was not on his side. But his style is completely different and I think he would have an equal chance as the other in the coming China open. I believe Misbun is a major favor in his game improvement.

fastdrop
11-11-2007, 12:10 PM
china masters? i thought china masters is already over? :rolleyes:
There are two China masters in the super series.

anfan2000
11-11-2007, 07:57 PM
I'm sharing to you a pic Roslin (MAS) và Andrea (INA) after filnal MS. Sorry for this deprived....

http://www.vietnambadminton.com/imagehost/image/2198.jpeg

X Ball
11-11-2007, 08:27 PM
Is he getting all the help and resorce from BAM ? Revival of the oldies !!!!!!
Get him and WCH all the help, since we cannot depend on the young Hafiz for now. Hope Misbun can motivate Hafiz into a calibre player like LCW. :rolleyes:


The motivation theory should apply here. He must be short of money now that he has not won for such a long time. I think, if anything, that should be enough incentive, not to mention personal pride and fame (if that is possible).

Loh
11-11-2007, 09:40 PM
Is he getting all the help and resorce from BAM ? Revival of the oldies !!!!!!
Get him and WCH all the help, since we cannot depend on the young Hafiz for now. Hope Misbun can motivate Hafiz into a calibre player like LCW. :rolleyes:

Frankly, I think it will be very difficult for both Roslin and WCH to make an impact in Beijing Olympics 2008, assuming they qualify in the first place. ;)

For the world's highest ranked players, the one who will win will be the one who is able to peak at the right time, barring any unforeseen event just before and during the Olympics. A little bit of luck like an easier draw, would help. :)

So for such players, they must now have a training schedule that will bring them to peak condition during that time, not way before even when they win major titles. :cool:

badMania
11-11-2007, 10:50 PM
There are two China masters in the super series.

Actually, one is called the China Masters and the other one is the China Open.

Loh
11-11-2007, 11:07 PM
There are two China masters in the super series.

Yes two China SS, one the China Masters, which was held in July and now the forthcoing China Open, following closely by the Hongkong Open towards end Nov.

So all in all China is a great promoter of the sport and if you include Hongkong and Macau, it will be even greater! :)

Is that one reason why China players have been winning more major titles than the other world badminton powers?

"The more you give, the more you receive!" :D

george@chongwei
11-12-2007, 12:49 AM
http://www.badzine.info/images/stories/News/roslin-13%20fo2007.jpgIn a thrilling final, Muhd Roslin Hashim (pictured) beat rising Indonesian star Andre Kurniawan Tedjono to win his first title since the 2001 Japan Open. Indonesia's Yulianti made sure that her country was the biggest winner on the day, though, taking gold in mixed and women's doubles, leaving Chau Hoi Wah of Hong Kong to cherish her two silvers. China and Korea, as expected, picked up one gold each in their respective fortes.

By Don Hearn. Photos: Badmintonphoto.com (Archives)


The first two matches went very quickly. Tantowi Akhmad and Yulianti took Chau Hoi Wah / Hui Wai Ho to school, winning the mixed doubles 21-11, 21-13. Not to be outdone, China's Zhu Jingjing did an even better job of dominating Hirayama Yu of Japan, shutting her down 21-11, 21-11.

Then it was time for Yulianti to face off for a second time against Hong Kong's Chau Hoi Wah. Yulianti and Nathalia Poluakan got off to a good start, mostly through their success in deceiving the Hong Kong pair. Once Chau and partner Koon Wai Chee caught on, however, things got very interesting. The Hong Kong pair soon figured out that they could be comfortable simply lifting the shuttle and depending on their excellent defense. Try as they might, the Indonesian women just could not smash their way to a point and their superb drops weren't fooling their opponents, who knew the Indonesians would have to resort to changing the pace. Nathalia Poluakan finally provided the exception to the rule with a string of 5 powerful smashes to nab the tying point at 18-all. From then on, the Indonesians benefitted from 3 straight errors by the Hong Kong pair to win 21-19.

In the second game, the Indonesians were much more in control. They left their opponents flat-footed on a remarkable number of occasions with their deft, soft pushes and drop shots. Poluakan/Yulianti finished it 21-15 on their first match point opportunity.

More Vietnamese Silver for Kang and Cho

Korea came only at half-strength to this tournament, with no women's doubles players to help repeat last year's all-Korean finals in mixed and women's doubles. At the start of the day, their hopes of taking another four golds like in 2006 had already long since been dashed but an all-Korean final did assure them of a repeat gold medal result in the men's doubles.

The match was dominated start to finish by Ko Sung-hyun and Kwun Yi-goo. Although the two are among the best doubles players in Korea, they have very little international experience on the senior circuit, their best performance to date being a quarter-final finish at the World University Games in Bangkok this summer. Their opponents were Kang Myeong-won and Cho Gun-woo, who had each already been a runner-up in Vietnam in the last year: Kang in the mixed doubles here at the Vietnam Open last November and Cho in men's doubles at the Vietnam Challenge in May. In fact, Kang really is Mr. Runner-up as he has finished second in the last two Korean National Championships as well. Ko/Kwun focussed their attacks on 19-year-old Cho and quickly finished off a 21-17, 21-12 win, to force their compatriots to once again only partially ascend the podium.

Grace under Pressure

It was the third meeting in six months for Muhd Roslin Hashim of Malaysia and Andre Kurniawan Tedjono of Indonesia. Their first came back in May when Roslin, desperate for Olympic qualifying points after having being excluded from two Super Series events, flew to New Zealand in the hopes of at least taking a Grand Prix title as consolation. Tedjono thwarted those plans by beating Roslin in straight games in the quarter-finals. Although Roslin regained some dignity by defeating Tedjono the following week, in Vietnam, today in Hanoi was much bigger. It was Roslin's big chance to finally take a title. He made it to three finals last year but settled for silver all three times.

Roslin started very strong, showing his trademark defensive skills and all the poise and consistency one would expect of a veteran of his stature. After finishing the first game by an easy 21-12, he was finally put to the test by the young Indonesian in the second.

Tedjono led throughout the match and opened up an 17-8 lead to assure the crowd that they would finally see a match go to three games on this finals day. However, sitting on an 18-11 lead, Tedjono made four straight errors to allow Rosling to narrow the score to 15-18. Roslin finally earned a point with a smash to the Indonesian's body to make it 16-18 and he followed up by finally tying the game at 19-all.

More errors by Tedjono gave Roslin two match points, both of which the Indonesian saved with strong smashes down the forehand sideline. Tedjono had a game point at 22-all but Roslin kept his cool and earned his third match point but blew the chance by making an error of his own. Tedjono made two more embarassing errors, though, to hand the Malaysian veteran the 25-23 win.

The patience and perseverance Roslin showed in his late comeback was nothing, though, compared to the fortitude he has shown over the last six years since his Japan Open win of 2001. After over 60 tournaments in those years and 4 finals in the last 15 months, the Malaysian was finally able to taste the sweetness of victory

george@chongwei
11-12-2007, 12:50 AM
I'm sharing to you a pic Roslin (MAS) và Andrea (INA) after filnal MS. Sorry for this deprived....

http://www.vietnambadminton.com/imagehost/image/2198.jpeg
anymore pics,anfan2000??

pjswift
11-12-2007, 01:25 AM
Yes two China SS, one the China Masters, which was held in July and now the forthcoing China Open, following closely by the Hongkong Open towards end Nov.

So all in all China is a great promoter of the sport and if you include Hongkong and Macau, it will be even greater! :)

Is that one reason why China players have been winning more major titles than the other world badminton powers?

"The more you give, the more you receive!" :D
I think China should only have 1 SS and Germany should have an SS since they lost out (to France?) in their bid.
But do you notice a trend since SS this year? CHN has been losing more major titles to non-CHN...In 2006, LD had no problem winning 3 in a row. Has this happened this year? What do you think this indicates to you?

Loh
11-12-2007, 02:11 AM
I think China should only have 1 SS and Germany should have an SS since they lost out (to France?) in their bid.
But do you notice a trend since SS this year? CHN has been losing more major titles to non-CHN...In 2006, LD had no problem winning 3 in a row. Has this happened this year? What do you think this indicates to you?

Yes, I always thought Germany should have the honour since they are among the best in Europe. But as someone has pointed out, money makes the world go round and if the German promoters are not able to get sponsors, then it is just too bad!

Yes I also agree that China seems not to be winning more titles this year than she was used to although I don't have time to check out the numbers.

Their top men and even their top women players, hitherto almost invincible, have been beaten by other Asian and even European players on a more regular basis. It could not be that China's standards have fallen so drastically, although age has caught up a bit for some of their players, but more realistically, European and other Asian players have made special efforts at improving themselves.

But there will continue to be ups and downs for countries and players. There was a time when Indonesia got nothing in their own backyard and at this year's WC, host Malaysia was totally disappointed as well.

So China must now lower its ambitions a bit although one could not help but marvel at the big talent pool at her disposal. Already their second stringers like Zhu Lin and her contemporaries are making waves at the world stage.

pjswift
11-12-2007, 02:19 AM
Frankly, I think it will be very difficult for both Roslin and WCH to make an impact in Beijing Olympics 2008, assuming they qualify in the first place. ;)

For the world's highest ranked players, the one who will win will be the one who is able to peak at the right time, barring any unforeseen event just before and during the Olympics. A little bit of luck like an easier draw, would help. :)

So for such players, they must now have a training schedule that will bring them to peak condition during that time, not way before even when they win major titles. :cool:
Agree it will be difficult but not impossible if it's about winning a medal in OG08.WCH and RH both have experience, belief and incredible determination on their side.RH, despite trailing so far behind in his matches against NTM and AT,was adamant not to let in a rubber and he proved he could do it , not once but TWICE.I'm delighted for him because it means he can do it again and again.If he can ensure that his matches do not stretch to 3 games, he will have a chance.
Stamina (and speed) will be a problem.They can slog for that for just one tournament. Speed? LCW, in FO, has proven physical speed,while useful, is not key. It is tactics, mental speed and the readiness to take risks that swing it.
What I don't understand is why members will chime in about 'Why peak now?' when MAS players win titles? I don't remember hearing such chorus when CHN wins.How do you know when you'll peak and go off peak? Should players go into tournaments to lose so they'll win in OG08? Is this a lot of hot air or sour grapes?
Congrats, Roslin! Savour the feelings of a champion but take no holiday. A new journey has just begun.All the best.

Krisna
11-12-2007, 03:37 AM
Yes, I always thought Germany should have the honour since they are among the best in Europe. But as someone has pointed out, money makes the world go round and if the German promoters are not able to get sponsors, then it is just too bad!


If Russia, India, and the US get enough consistent sponsorship money for superseries, then BWF officials have to drop Singapore, Hong Kong, and one of the two Chinese Super Series [a bit too many]... in order to make badminton a truly global sport... :p

I think Hong Kong Gold GP, Singapore Gold GP, and China Gold GP will go well with Germany Gold GP, Macau Gold GP, Thailand Gold GP, and the Philippines Gold GP... :D

Ok, I'm just writing fiction for now... I know that realistically in the near future it won't happen... ;)

abedeng
11-12-2007, 03:54 AM
Errr, I think Andre should be highlighted a lot more in Super Series Events. That kind of skill is not worthy to be kept for minor tournaments, it was big match temperament that let him down in the final.

Let him play the qualifiers, I am sure he will come through. He did good enough in INA SS.

Loh
11-12-2007, 04:21 AM
If Russia, India, and the US get enough consistent sponsorship money for superseries, then BWF officials have to drop Singapore, Hong Kong, and one of the two Chinese Super Series [a bit too many]... in order to make badminton a truly global sport... :p

I think Hong Kong Gold GP, Singapore Gold GP, and China Gold GP will go well with Germany Gold GP, Macau Gold GP, Thailand Gold GP, and the Philippines Gold GP... :D

Ok, I'm just writing fiction for now... I know that realistically in the near future it won't happen... ;)

Let it come true! :):) Then we will have more SS in our badminton calender with proper facilities, aka reliable websites. Not necessarily that Singapore, Hongkong and other smaller countries in terms of physical size, but not lacking in sponsorships, be dropped.

Also a good excuse for Rudy to travel the world over and over again! Others with money and time on their hands, like fastdrop, may be able to join him and perhaps take a closer look at the Russian girls who have made such a great impact on tennis. ;)

Sandy and fellow PAWers will be happier being more frequently occupied with the game!:cool::D And Louisa from Cat City will look forward to winning a LV bag et all!

X Ball
11-12-2007, 06:39 AM
I want to say something for the records and that is LCW has come of age. Under Misbun, LCW is now FEARED and not fearing.

I do not see any more posts ridiculing LCW and that is a clear sign everyone has got plenty of respect for him. Although he can lose one in the early rounds, he would come back stronger each time to take revenge and showed how easy it was.

As the China Open rolls near, I would say that everyone has LCW on their lips. Will it be another big tournament for him? I dare say if the unknowns (e.g. serious injury) do not happen, he is ready to scale and conquer another mountain. His physical form, his mental alertness, his confidence, etc are at its best. He is cool and collective in his matches working out his opponents very quickly, stepping up the pressure when he needs to -- and that was very visible in his 2nd game against BAO.

The question on everyone's mind is obviously whether he will beat LD. In the past, an answer from anyone would likely be something along these lines "if luck in on his side it is possible....". However, I would like say times have changed. If Chinese fans (and all others of LD) do not want to be disappointed in the China Open, I think they should perhaps acknowledge now LCW is very hard for LD to beat. That way, the consequence may not be so harsh if LD fails to beat LCW.

And I would say, the above is a fair comment even though it sounds a bit arrogant of me but the truth does hurt at times. It is not crowing about LCW but helping to bring to light what is probably the hardest thing to accept when things turn suddenly in an event. LCW has been working on his comeback since the departure of his former coach Li Mao.If you remember, he said it would take him a little while to get back up again. I would like to remind everyone that this has now come around. He has risen and he will stay that way for a long time coming......GET USED TO IT.

huangkwokhau
11-12-2007, 07:11 AM
[Also a good excuse for Rudy to travel the world over and over again! Others with money and time on their hands, like fastdrop, may be able to join him and perhaps take a closer look at the Russian girls who have made such a great impact on tennis. ;)

Haiya Uncle LOH...dont make me look like a playboy.....:crying::crying:

taufik-ist
11-12-2007, 07:21 AM
I want to say something for the records and that is LCW has come of age. Under Misbun, LCW is now FEARED and not fearing.

I do not see any more posts ridiculing LCW and that is a clear sign everyone has got plenty of respect for him. Although he can lose one in the early rounds, he would come back stronger each time to take revenge and showed how easy it was.

As the China Open rolls near, I would say that everyone has LCW on their lips. Will it be another big tournament for him? I dare say if the unknowns (e.g. serious injury) do not happen, he is ready to scale and conquer another mountain. His physical form, his mental alertness, his confidence, etc are at its best. He is cool and collective in his matches working out his opponents very quickly, stepping up the pressure when he needs to -- and that was very visible in his 2nd game against BAO.

The question on everyone's mind is obviously whether he will beat LD. In the past, an answer from anyone would likely be something along these lines "if luck in on his side it is possible....". However, I would like say times have changed. If Chinese fans (and all others of LD) do not want to be disappointed in the China Open, I think they should perhaps acknowledge now LCW is very hard for LD to beat. That way, the consequence may not be so harsh if LD fails to beat LCW.

And I would say, the above is a fair comment even though it sounds a bit arrogant of me but the truth does hurt at times. It is not crowing about LCW but helping to bring to light what is probably the hardest thing to accept when things turn suddenly in an event. LCW has been working on his comeback since the departure of his former coach Li Mao.If you remember, he said it would take him a little while to get back up again. I would like to remind everyone that this has now come around. He has risen and he will stay that way for a long time coming......GET USED TO IT.

are we talking about LCW or vietnam open final here. this post should be moved to "LCW's fans here" thread :p :p :p

pjswift
11-12-2007, 07:56 AM
are we talking about LCW or vietnam open final here. this post should be moved to "LCW's fans here" thread :p :p :p
Do you learn anything from the offshoots of this thread? These posts represent a healthy discussion generated by the incredible comeback victory of Roslin in the MSF, don't you think so? XBall's excellent post is too big to fit into the 'LCW's fans here' thread.It is meant more for non-LCW fans. Where do you think it should go?

eaglehelang
11-12-2007, 10:36 AM
I want to say something for the records and that is LCW has come of age. Under Misbun, LCW is now FEARED and not fearing.

................He is cool and collective in his matches working out his opponents very quickly, stepping up the pressure when he needs to -- and that was very visible in his 2nd game against BAO.


......LCW has been working on his comeback since the departure of his former coach Li Mao.If you remember, he said it would take him a little while to get back up again. I would like to remind everyone that this has now come around. He has risen and he will stay that way for a long time coming......GET USED TO IT.


Xball,

True, LCW is mentally stronger now. But also true he faltered at WC 07(again). That was just 2 short months ago. I'm sure you have seen his interview in "My Olympic" - OG 2004, WC 2006, WC 2007 - when asked why he crashed out early rounds, LCW said "Pressure, kua" with different variations for each event.

French Open - he did said he played without pressure(due to the knee injury), which is good for him. Past records for LCW show - he buckle under pressure.

As many have also said and seen, his opponents are surprised with the change of tactics. As usual, his opponents will study him, find ways to counter or make it more difficult for him, esp China. With so many China MS, if they lose, malu-lah for them.

OG has higher pressure than SS, SS Finals, or even Thomas Cup. Hopefully he can improve his mental strength (improvement is always good) come Beijing 2008.
Yes, LCW has risen, he needs to ensure he stay that way.

TH_4_President
11-12-2007, 10:43 AM
Do you learn anything from the offshoots of this thread? These posts represent a healthy discussion generated by the incredible comeback victory of Roslin in the MSF, don't you think so? XBall's excellent post is too big to fit into the 'LCW's fans here' thread.It is meant more for non-LCW fans. Where do you think it should go?
probably it should have gone to "TH fans lets ngombe rame-rame (come together)" thread...hihihihihihi..:D:D:D:D:D, peACE yo..:D:D

OneToughBirdie
11-12-2007, 10:42 PM
Xball,

True, LCW is mentally stronger now. But also true he faltered at WC 07(again). That was just 2 short months ago. I'm sure you have seen his interview in "My Olympic" - OG 2004, WC 2006, WC 2007 - when asked why he crashed out early rounds, LCW said "Pressure, kua" with different variations for each event.

French Open - he did said he played without pressure(due to the knee injury), which is good for him. Past records for LCW show - he buckle under pressure.

As many have also said and seen, his opponents are surprised with the change of tactics. As usual, his opponents will study him, find ways to counter or make it more difficult for him, esp China. With so many China MS, if they lose, malu-lah for them.

OG has higher pressure than SS, SS Finals, or even Thomas Cup. Hopefully he can improve his mental strength (improvement is always good) come Beijing 2008.
Yes, LCW has risen, he needs to ensure he stay that way.

Well said...btw, did LCW played in OLY04, I thought LCW first majors was WC05 where he got bronze?

Loh
11-12-2007, 11:14 PM
[Also a good excuse for Rudy to travel the world over and over again! Others with money and time on their hands, like fastdrop, may be able to join him and perhaps take a closer look at the Russian girls who have made such a great impact on tennis. ;)

Haiya Uncle LOH...dont make me look like a playboy.....:crying::crying:

Rudy, can't you become a talent scout instead? ;) Remember the Russian girls have glamorized and 'modernized' tennis, can't they do the same for badminton? Then the money will flow in and we will see more talented beauties in badminton! Chicken and egg situation but all for a good cause! :cool:

eaglehelang
11-13-2007, 04:38 AM
Well said...btw, did LCW played in OLY04, I thought LCW first majors was WC05 where he got bronze?

If you type "My Olympic" in Youtube or search in the Video Sharing Thread of this forum, you'll find the interview - it's in Mandarin though, done by CCTV-5. LCW was the last Msian standing, lost in rubber to Chen Hong. They showed the clip of that match.

The Youtube version isnt complete, if you look in "LCW fans, come in" thread, a fan posted the direct link to CCTV-5 website. There's another 2 minutes or so of the clip showing LCW up to WC 07. They didnt show his win in Japan Open, so I assume the interview was done between Aug - Sept 07

CCTV-5 also interviewed Taufik, Peter Gade and a couple of others.

X Ball
11-13-2007, 07:33 PM
Do you learn anything from the offshoots of this thread? These posts represent a healthy discussion generated by the incredible comeback victory of Roslin in the MSF, don't you think so? XBall's excellent post is too big to fit into the 'LCW's fans here' thread.It is meant more for non-LCW fans. Where do you think it should go?

You said it :) Cheers.