For those who read Chinese,
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/19243317666.shtml
Provoking ... you are warned!

Major points,

Only 2 titles?
- Hectic tournament schedule doesn't do "veteran" players good, so CY/FHF, ZN, XXF failed.
- New scoring system makes the sport more unpredictable
- May skip some events, e.g., Grand Prix finals, without jeopardizing OG qualification
- Since May 1 this year (beginning of OG qualification period), we have never trained for 35 consecutive days. If we skip some events, we will earn a precious 35-day period to concentrate on training.

On WMC's win
- She improved a lot in this year. Her attacks are not as "obvious" (i.e., good) as CHN players but that is compensated by her fast movements.
- It's hard to beat her if CHN players don't have BOTH the stamina and the power.

XXF lost because of pressure and lack of determination?
- No, she just didn't have the stamina to complete the match today
- I don't blame her. This is just the unpredictability of the sport under the new scoring sys

Controversy in line judging?
(note: LYB is digging out the history.)
[1] In this aspect, we the CHN team has been suffering the most, especially when we are in S. Korea. Bingyi and I 'lost to the judges' in the MD final at Seoul AG. Some of the line judges later became their national players, e.g., Ha Tae Kwon. We didn't know the truth for many years until Ha & co. told us what they had done to us.
[2] We suffered the problems many times (e.g., at World Jr this year at KL) but we have never quit any tournament in the name of sportsmanship. It's hard to prevent disputes between players and judges, but we should respect the judges more. In managing CHN team, I've been reinforcing this (to my players). We are a civilized country. Our audience is friendly. Our judges have high quality.
[3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.

LYB is shooting some sheet as usual la. Its always him and his big mouth.

[3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.
wat the..
he say like his china player nvr do this before..
if he say tat he suffering the most, then he should knw to overcome this problem..
this mean tat he is juz making a revenge for wat he suffered before..
is this call fair?
he think like he is right but his words tell us tat he juz wan revenge for wat happen to them before..

Looks like he's the main man at the moment taking the limelight. Hope he is enjoying it.

For those who read Chinese,
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/19243317666.shtml
Provoking ... you are warned!

Major points,

Only 2 titles?
- Hectic tournament schedule doesn't do "veteran" players good, so CY/FHF, ZN, XXF failed.
- New scoring system makes the sport more unpredictable
- May skip some events, e.g., Grand Prix finals, without jeopardizing OG qualification
- Since May 1 this year (beginning of OG qualification period), we have never trained for 35 consecutive days. If we skip some events, we will earn a precious 35-day period to concentrate on training.

On WMC's win
- She improved a lot in this year. Her attacks are not as "obvious" (i.e., good) as CHN players but that is compensated by her fast movements.
- It's hard to beat her if CHN players don't have BOTH the stamina and the power.

XXF lost because of pressure and lack of determination?
- No, she just didn't have the stamina to complete the match today
- I don't blame her. This is just the unpredictability of the sport under the new scoring sys

Controversy in line judging?
(note: LYB is digging out the history.)
[1] In this aspect, we the CHN team has been suffering the most, especially when we are in S. Korea. Bingyi and I 'lost to the judges' in the MD final at Seoul AG. Some of the line judges later became their national players, e.g., Ha Tae Kwon. We didn't know the truth for many years until Ha & co. told us what they had done to us.
[2] We suffered the problems many times (e.g., at World Jr this year at KL) but we have never quit any tournament in the name of sportsmanship. It's hard to prevent disputes between players and judges, but we should respect the judges more. In managing CHN team, I've been reinforcing this (to my players). We are a civilized country. Our audience is friendly. Our judges have high quality.
[3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.
Him mentioning what happen in S.korea means that he has the INTENTION to REVENGE!!! He is really the Terrorist of Badminton World.

Im glad its WMC who gave him a big slap this time. Nah, take this!

[3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.
wat the..
he say like his china player nvr do this before..
if he say tat he suffering the most, then he should knw to overcome this problem..
this mean tat he is juz making a revenge for wat he suffered before..
is this call fair?
he think like he is right but his words tell us tat he juz wan revenge for wat happen to them before..

u r right

damn him :mad::mad::mad:

[1] In this aspect, we the CHN team has been suffering the most, especially when we are in S. Korea. Bingyi and I 'lost to the judges' in the MD final at Seoul AG. Some of the line judges later became their national players, e.g., Ha Tae Kwon. We didn't know the truth for many years until Ha & co. told us what they had done to us.
lyb says that like his china team suffer the most..
how about other country??
MALAYSIA??THAILAND??INDONESIA??
he think they din suffer b4 lk that situation....

the answer to this? PETITION PETITION PETITION!!!!!

http://www.petitiononline.com/bwfpet/petition.html

two wrongs dont make a right.... this should stop now!

What Li has said was that he confirmed the fact that linejudges are bribed. He should be banned... Just because Korea did it long time ago (i'm not saying they did, can someone enlighten me on this?) dosen't make it correct. Shameful. Trying to find excuses....

and what the hell? It is wrong to challenge umpires? Hell, the match referee is there so that when an umpire is challenged, he steps in! LYB, disgraceful, shameful. I spit on you.

Another Chinese report,
http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/18493317634.shtml

An account of the controversies during the tournament,

(1) GZD/XZB vs. JJS/LYD
More than 10 times of dispute ... the calls were all in favor of CHN. It can't be so coincident that KOR misjudged for more than 10 times. Still, they SHOULD NOT quit the match because of that.

(2) PSH vs. BCL
PSH received a yellow card ... he deserved it because when he made an error, he threw his racquet, kicked the shuttle to BCL's court and crash himself to the net. Too emotional.

(3) CH conceived walkover
The OG rankings don't look good to CHN at the moment. CHN wants 4 players to be among top-4 for obvious reason. Now only LD makes it. With LD being eliminated, CHN desperately needs BCL to win the title. So CH just did his ex-teammate and the country a favor.

(4) THA XD pair vs. XZB/ZYW
At the match point, THA player complained to the empire that XZB's act (raising both arms in front of the net) has distracted the game. The game halted for 5 minutes but THA eventually made it.

(5) LCW vs. BCL
LCW's agony was MORE REASONABLE than the earlier scenes. He threw his racquet twice in the match - in both occasions, the slow motion on TV showed that BCL's shots were "out" and yet the line judges said otherwise ... The final scores do not reflect LCW's real strength.
As the CCTV commenter has said, "BCL is in form today. We shouldn't and don't need to win the match in this way!"

So what about Beijing OG? Korean coach Li Mao argued that the situation will improve as the empires and judges won't be assigned by one association.

BTW, WMC is now touted by Chinese media as "the nemesis of CHN team" ...

http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/16043317455.shtml

There is always a vested interest when it comes in home games. Too bad lor.

There is always a vested interest when it comes in home games. Too bad lor.
IS NOT TOO BAD... IS VERY BAD

never i seen such biased refering in any other sportsss!

They can even send a kid from the street to beat LCW with this kind of help!

he is king there mah. what to do? someone will taruh him when he come here. hehe.

(4) THA XD pair vs. XZB/ZYW
At the match point, THA player complained to the empire that XZB's act (raising both arms in front of the net) has distracted the game. The game halted for 5 minutes but THA eventually made it.

this is totally a lie..
i heard the umpire call fault on sudket for raising his hand in front of the net and not XZB, it should be sudket complaining abt why he get fault..
i also don't knw why sudket get fault as he look like not doing anything wrong..

There is always a vested interest when it comes in home games. Too bad lor.

That doesnt happen when other countries host SS. So in other words, just because China is "superpower" of badminton, doesnt mean they can manipulate. Anyway, the great wall is cracking, hole getting bigger.

Controversy in line judging?
(note: LYB is digging out the history.)

[3] Player challenges judge like what happened today - totally unacceptable! If this happens in some other sports, the consequence will be severe. The badminton sport doesn't do well in this aspect - judges' dignity has not been protected.

A coach shouting "break his leg" is totally unacceptable and is even more despicable. A coach that buy out the whole team of "lies" man and judge is totally despicable and a 100% pure coward. If this happens in football in Europe, LYB head will be smashed & bleed to death by now. Judges who cannot be fair is not a real judge so what's there to protect is only his head and his life.

I believe sooner or later someone or god will have to shut his mouth forever. This filthiest scumbag in the most despicable living creature on planet earth at this moment.

i hope when LYB comes to Malaysia, or Indonesia, or whereever, the fans will BOOO him loudly when he comes out!

Hahaha… seems LYB has become no.1 enemy of badminton.

stupid la him!!!he's always like this!something like if non-China's players win the match against the China's player ,he will be telling a lot of reasons such as China's players are tired in the match or don't have enough energy and a lot of rubbish reasons!!!but if non-China's player lose to China's players,he won't be saying the non-China's player are tired or what...his reasons for those non-China's players are due to the skill's problem...
haiz...i totally dislike him!!!!!!!!!!!!!

(4) THA XD pair vs. XZB/ZYW
At the match point, THA player complained to the empire that XZB's act (raising both arms in front of the net) has distracted the game. The game halted for 5 minutes but THA eventually made it.

this is totally a lie..
i heard the umpire call fault on sudket for raising his hand in front of the net and not XZB, it should be sudket complaining abt why he get fault..
i also don't knw why sudket get fault as he look like not doing anything wrong..


True. I saw that part too. Sudket and Saralee were explaining and complaining to the tournment referee. Sudket raised his arms as a dummy act before taking the shot.
In the replay, it was shown that his arms are far away from the net, therefore not a fault.

Even the GD Sports commentator said softly that "normally if the arms over the net then only its a fault." Saralee was demonstrating that to the umpire and tournament referee, defending her partner. The umpire stuck to his decision and Guo/Yawen were given a point for the supposed fault.

Sudket was visibly upset. Thank goodness they were at match point when it happened cos Sudket dared not play near the net after that, he let Saralee take the front court shots.

dah nak kalah mesti kena cari alasan!!!!! :p
hey, chity hour
please remember to post in English only. respect the fact that
not only your countrymen read this forum. this forum is being read by many people from many different part of the world.

stupid la him!!!he's always like this!something like if non-China's players win the match against the China's player ,he will be telling a lot of reasons such as China's players are tired in the match or don't have enough energy and a lot of rubbish reasons!!!but if non-China's player lose to China's players,he won't be saying the non-China's player are tired or what...his reasons for those non-China's players are due to the skill's problem...
haiz...i totally dislike him!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He is SMART!!! Trying to take the pressure of his players and put it on himself…. Making it looks like he is the one planning up all the wicked plan not his players

hey, chity hour
please remember to post in English only. respect the fact that
not only your countrymen read this forum. this forum is being read by many people from many different part of the world.

lorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr :(:(:(:(:(

BTW, WMC is now touted by Chinese media as "the nemesis of CHN team" ...

http://sports.sina.com.cn/o/2007-11-25/16043317455.shtml
What does that supposed to mean? Why! Cannot beat them ah? He think what? His gals always the best ah? They used so many gals in the tournament. Of course lah sure most of the time either one of them will win.

Well at least we beat them in a fair manner. But now he cannot take the fact that Malaysia just sent one gal is enough to beat all his gals. Ha ha ha....

Maybe he still didn't realise that China gals have always been the nemesis of the whole world teams.

Yess! This forum is also being read by LYB comrade "Tung Zhi"… make sure LYB got the message WE HATE YOU! Terrorist of Badminton!! YOU ARE KILLING THE GAME WE LOVE!!!

True. I saw that part too. Sudket and Saralee were explaining and complaining to the tournment referee. Sudket raised his arms as a dummy act before taking the shot.
In the replay, it was shown that his arms are far away from the net, therefore not a fault.

Even the GD Sports commentator said softly that "normally if the arms over the net then only its a fault." Saralee was demonstrating that to the umpire and tournament referee, defending her partner. The umpire stuck to his decision and Guo/Yawen were given a point for the supposed fault.

Sudket was visibly upset. Thank goodness they were at match point when it happened cos Sudket dared not play near the net after that, he let Saralee take the front court shots.

That fault is totally a joke! I was like "u gotta be kidding right?" No way u can fault like this, and its at the match point somemore! Kudos to Saralee who is composed and brave enough to hit the last winner.

to those who understand chinese, here is the video of li yong bo interview...
http://chinaopen.cba.org.cn/en/video/2007-11-25/146924.html

to those who understand chinese, here is the video of li yong bo interview...
http://chinaopen.cba.org.cn/en/video/2007-11-25/146924.html
All this while I am not sure we should blam LYB because I am sure there are people in higher ranking that order this!!! REALLY DIRTY!

There are some misunderstandings in this forum.
LYB≠CBA,
Some umpires(Who made mistakes in this year's China Open)≠All Chinese umpires,
China Open≠2008 Olympic Games,
We will do well in 2008 OG surely!!!

You may don't like some people(umpires that who made mistakes in this year's China Open......).Of course I am also hate those people.
But what I want to say is that please do not work off your anger on our players.You must make it clear(LYB or those whom all you hate can not represent our shuttlers)
All we want is that a clean competition.
But unfortunately , our umpires do some mistakes in this event.

Hahaha… seems LYB has become no.1 enemy of badminton.

yeah i think Li Yongbo is kind of like the Joe Torre (NY Yankees) of badminton...

There are some misunderstandings in this forum.
LYB≠CBA,
Some umpires(Who made mistakes in this year's China Open)≠All Chinese umpires,
China Open≠2008 Olympic Games,
We will do well in 2008 OG surely!!!

You may don't like some people(umpires that who made mistakes in this year's China Open......).Of course I am also hate those people.
But what I want to say is that please do not work off your anger on our players.You must make it clear(LYB or those whom all you hate can not represent our shuttlers)
All we want is that a clean competition.
But unfortunately , our umpires do some mistakes in this event.
Is so nice of you to come out and defend you "tung zhi" comrade but I cant congratulate your WIN because is not a win! Let's hope for a better tournament than this in the Olympic08 but I am sure there cant be worst?

There are some misunderstandings in this forum.
LYB≠CBA,
Some umpires(Who made mistakes in this year's China Open)≠All Chinese umpires,
China Open≠2008 Olympic Games,
We will do well in 2008 OG surely!!!

You may don't like some people(umpires that who made mistakes in this year's China Open......).Of course I am also hate those people.
But what I want to say is that please do not work off your anger on our players.You must make it clear(LYB or those whom all you hate can not represent our shuttlers)
All we want is that a clean competition.
But unfortunately , our umpires do some mistakes in this event.

Nobody blames the chinese shuttlers. Just that LYB need to shut up and stop all this bullsheet after all the benefits gained from the umpires/judges this time. :cool:

But unfortunately , our umpires do some mistakes in this event.
Let me explain to you about this word call "Mistakes".

Mistakes are unintentional. What happened were intentional and not mistakes.

Why did I say intentional? If it was a mistake, the judge should have apologise for his mistake. Apparently he even argue which means he don't think he was in the wrong. So what mistake?

Mistake usually happened only once in one occasion. Unless he is a typical dumb
azz from China that made multiple mistakes in one occasion.

Lastly, all his mistakes seem to side China player? So do you think its still a so called mistakes? Get a life. We are not some 3 year old kids.

Let me explain to you about this word call "Mistakes".

Mistakes are unintentional. What happened were intentional and not mistakes.

Why did I say intentional? If it was a mistake, the judge should have apologise for his mistake. Apparently he even argue which means he don't think he was in the wrong. So what mistake?

Mistake usually happened only once in one occasion. Unless he is a typical dumb
azz from China that made mistakes for times in one occasion.

Lastly, all his mistakes seem to side China player? So do you think its still a so called mistakes? Get a life. We are not some 3 year old kids.

hohohohohoho

:p:D:p:D:p:D

Let me explain to you about this word call "Mistakes".

Mistakes are unintentional. What happened were intentional and not mistakes.

Why did I say intentional? If it was a mistake, the judge should have apologise for his mistake. Apparently he even argue which means he don't think he was in the wrong. So what mistake?

Mistake usually happened only once in one occasion. Unless he is a typical dumb
azz from China that made mistakes for times in one occasion.

Lastly, all his mistakes seem to side China player? So do you think its still a so called mistakes? Get a life. We are not some 3 year old kids.Let's not bash this KIDS… is he is bought up by the "SYSTEM" just like LYB! He believe it’s a mistake. Is not his fault… is the fault of the whole country!

Nobody blames the chinese shuttlers. Just that LYB need to shut up and stop all this bullsheet after all the benefits gained from the umpires/judges this time. :cool:
Wrong. I blamed BCL. He is not sporting at all. Why? Because while in the court, he also pointed and shouted that the shuttle was in when the rest of the world clearly saw his no good shot was out.

From now on, I will curse on him and LYB whenever I see their ugly faces on my TV screen.

Nobody blames the chinese shuttlers. Just that LYB need to shut up and stop all this bullsheet after all the benefits gained from the umpires/judges this time. :cool:
Have your guys watch indepence DAYS? WILL SMITH!!! They said, the world will only united when we got a common enemy… and now MSIA, DEN, Korea & THAI united against CHINA!

uh ..
today's game is as same as the sudhket's one...the ball supposed to be out,but the line referee said it's in..hhoohoho??i can see.. LCW was fed up wif dat referee....huh?? ..fair?or unfair??or dat juz coincidence?

Wrong. I blamed BCL. He is not sporting at all. Why? Because while in the court, he also pointed and shouted that the shuttle was in when the rest of the world clearly saw his no good shot was out.

From now on, I will curse on him and LYB whenever I see their ugly faces on my TV screen.

Anyways i nvr really fond of chinese shuttlers la, skills maybe but not the sportsmanship. Except a few sporting ones like XZB, YW, ZJW...

Wrong. I blamed BCL. He is not sporting at all. Why? Because while in the court, he also pointed and shouted that the shuttle was in when the rest of the world clearly saw his no good shot was out.

From now on, I will curse on him and LYB whenever I see their ugly faces on my TV screen.
i think this can't be the reason you blame him..
for me..
every player is selfish when it reach crucial moment,perhaps we must say every human..
so it won't be wrong if he call tat his ball was in..
maybe at his angle he saw it in, i experienced this also...
anyway..
if you hate BCL, you muz hate our koo/tan too..
they also did the same as BCL when facing japan players(if i am not wrong)..
which they been boo by the spectators,at last they lost..
i think they will nvr do tat again afta tat embarassing moment.

Hahahaha I bet BCL now really thought he is the best. Judging from his pretentious act while the bad call was made, I could see that he really is thinking that he is good. Ha ha ha.. He is definitely good. But in acting innocent and not in badminton. Its such a waste he didn't get into hollywood.

i think this can't be the reason you blame him..
for me..
every player is selfish when it reach crucial moment,perhaps we must say every human..
so it won't be wrong if he call tat his ball was in..
maybe at his angle he say it in, i experienced this also...
anyway..
if you hate BCL, you muz hate our koo/tan too..
they also did the same as BCL when facing japan players(if i am not wrong)..
which they been boo by the spectators,at last they lost..
i think they will nvr do tat again afta tat embarassing moment.

Its different. Koo/Tan did not try to interfere and influence the umpire, which BCL did. Our boys did at least apologize to the Japs.

Its different. Koo/Tan did not try to interfere and influence the umpire, which BCL did. Our boys did at least apologize to the Japs.
u watch it with your own eyes?:cool:

i hope when LYB comes to Malaysia, or Indonesia, or whereever, the fans will BOOO him loudly when he comes out!
sure..........if comes to bukit jalil i will throw him with a tomato ...........and lemon, i'll do it.........pity LCW treat like son in law....:crying::crying::crying::crying:

u watch it with your own eyes?:cool:

Koo/Tan? Yup i did. U should dl the match and watch yrself. :cool:

Koo/Tan? Yup i did. U should dl the match and watch yrself. :cool:
ok, then sorry for tat..
but they also did wrong by not telling the truth..
luckily they did say sorry like me..:D

They Lose… that's why JUSTICE is done! But BCL win… we cant let him run away with murders!!


i have a feeling this thread will be closed soon....everyone just needs to calm down and stop taking what LYB said so out of context and have an open mind about things

Question was there is a baseline cam at each end of the court which can show in / out situation. Why the broadcaster did not show it out when LCW protested in the 1st time?

Reason is only 1. The shuttlecock was out and LCW very sure about this. That was why he protested so kau.

Same thing goes to net play. 1st 2 times BCL tapped the racket slightly over the net and nothing has happened to him. When LCW did that for the 1st time, straight away kena fault. But I really laugh my ass out when the 2nd shot he look straight away to the umpire, was this fault?

Haha......

hmm..... Bao is partner in crimes in the destruction of the integrity of the sport? Bad move pretty boy, you've just united the rest of the world against you.

Hey hey children, stop this useless argument and go to bed with a long sleep. Tomorrow you'll see the samilar story in any corner of the world, family, works, school, society.

And this is only a sport match not a war. Mouth water doesn't resolve anything. Better to do more excercise in badminton and make yourself healthier and more friendly to the world.

This thread should be closed.............

To all who understands chinese. Read this. Some insiders story.
http://www.chinabadminton.com/ball/Announce/Announce.asp?BoardID=4000&ID=2820028

Hey hey children, stop this useless argument and go to bed with a long sleep. Tomorrow you'll see the samilar story in any corner of the world, family, works, school, society.

And this is only a sport match not a war. Mouth water doesn't resolve anything. Better to do more excercise in badminton and make yourself healthier and more friendly to the world.

This thread should be closed.............
this is the most meaningful reply so far..
you are definitely right.:D