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X Ball
11-26-2007, 12:24 AM
Needless to say everyone has witnessed the win of WMC over Zhu Lin, Zhang Ning and Xie Xinfang.

WMC 'killed' them in the physical fitness dept. Zhu Lin was breathing so heavily at one point, I thought she was going to faint (she slumped her body). And she gave up in the end without too much of a fight.

Then came Zhang Ning who clearly showed her unftiness also. She also capitulated at the end.

Xie Xinfang put up a bit of a fight in the 2nd but in the 3rd she just gave up when WMC took control at 16-16, thereafter it was all downhill for her. She basically gave up the fight.

WMC wore all these players down. If she can keep this sheer fitness up, she will become a champion - she will beat the hell out of her oponents who could not match her. She has stepped up her rallies to be fast and furious, which wore all her oponents down.

LCW does the same, he is extremely fit. Fitness pays (we are not talking about plain fit but super duper fit). What Hafiz has realised, amidst a bit late but still not too late, is that he is a wreck when it comes to fitness. He gives in too quickly and play lazy strokes (trick shots) to try to win the easy way coz he is tired.

There are no easy pickings these days. Everyone is playing at their peak and it gets harder as everyone puts in the heavy gym work. If you not pumping irons or bicycling 20 kms per day, you are not going to cut it. Rope skipping increases the heart beat and lowers the eventual heart rate to 40-50 beats per seconds.

It is amazing how very fit LCW and WMC are - they should put everyone under the same physical coach.

badMania
11-26-2007, 12:41 AM
Agree with X-Ball. Wong Mew Choo has such a good fitness that she basically "killed" all the Chinese players in this aspect. Her footwork is also superb and in the 2 matches I watched her play last Saturday and Sunday, she basically had answers to most of the attacks by Zhang Ning and Xie Xingfang that they basically ran out of ideas :cool: At the end, the Chinese players ended up making their own mistakes by putting the shuttle into the net or out.

Their quotes as posted in sina.com.cn summed up everything:
“跑不动,打到哪里她都能接到。”
or translated as "no more energy to run, Wong basically had response to almost every shot we made"

Both Zhang and Xie were basically so exhausted nearing the end of their matches that it was so obvious from their expression and body languages. Like the observation made by X-Ball, Xie was feeling the fatigue when WMC managed to catch up to 14-14 and it was all downhill from then on.

Congrats once again to Wong Mew Choo, you are a worthy champion! All the Indonesian fans were cheering so loudly for her that we annoyed the Chinese fans sitting next to us, which included 2 young Chinese doubles players (one of them was Tian Qing) sitting just behind me yesterday!

At the end of the MD match, one of the Chinese fans even asked me...."why were u cheering for the Malaysians and Indonesians?" :D

X Ball
11-26-2007, 12:44 AM
At the end of the MD match, one of the Chinese fans even asked me...."why were u cheering for the Malaysians and Indonesians?" :D

Hahaha, good one.

indra
11-26-2007, 12:48 AM
Needless to say everyone has witnessed the win of WMC over Zhu Lin, Zhang Ning and Xie Xinfang.

WMC 'killed' them in the physical fitness dept. Zhu Lin was breathing so heavily at one point, I thought she was going to faint (she slumped her body). And she gave up in the end without too much of a fight.

Then came Zhang Ning who clearly showed her unftiness also. She also capitulated at the end.

Xie Xinfang put up a bit of a fight in the 2nd but in the 3rd she just gave up when WMC took control at 16-16, thereafter it was all downhill for her. She basically gave up the fight.

WMC wore all these players down. If she can keep this sheer fitness up, she will become a champion - she will beat the hell out of her oponents who could not match her. She has stepped up her rallies to be fast and furious, which wore all her oponents down.

LCW does the same, he is extremely fit. Fitness pays (we are not talking about plain fit but super duper fit). What Hafiz has realised, amidst a bit late but still not too late, is that he is a wreck when it comes to fitness. He gives in too quickly and play lazy strokes (trick shots) to try to win the easy way coz he is tired.

There are no easy pickings these days. Everyone is playing at their peak and it gets harder as everyone puts in the heavy gym work. If you not pumping irons or bicycling 20 kms per day, you are not going to cut it. Rope skipping increases the heart beat and lowers the eventual heart rate to 40-50 beats per seconds.

It is amazing how very fit LCW and WMC are - they should put everyone under the same physical coach.

Can Ina borrow the Malaysian women single coach?:D

X Ball
11-26-2007, 12:51 AM
Can Ina borrow the Malaysian women single coach?:D


:eek: You know the answer.

Yes, now that you have brought it up, I am sure Wong Tat Meng needs to be congratulated too...I think he has done a splendid job with WMC. He is almost overlooked for WMC's win -- he finally found some success. Great one WTM. Your value has gone up.

Inky2000
11-26-2007, 12:54 AM
:eek: You know the answer.

Yes, now that you have brought it up, I am sure Wong Tat Meng needs to be congratulated too...I think he has done a splendid job with WMC. He is almost overlooked for WMC's win -- he finally found some success. Great one WTM. Your value has gone up.

Yes, like what I've written in my earlier posting - Tat Meng must be proud of having a protege who has achieved something that he had never made it when he was a MS player.

KlasseE
11-26-2007, 12:55 AM
Mental/Physical
LCW - mentally bad but physically good. He has grown up since criticized over YKH after WC. A good example of sportmanship for others....
WMC - excellent/superb
CJ - excellent/superb
BCL - excellent/excellent
ZN - bad/good
XXF - bad/good
Park - bad/worse
Thai XD - excellent/superb
INA MD - excellent/excellent

just my 2 cents.....

badMania
11-26-2007, 12:58 AM
Look at how Wong Mew Choo has rapidly risen to the top 8 in 2 years and having beaten most of those players ranked above her :eek:

She lost in the SEA Games Final to Adriyanti Firdasari, and now such a gap between the two players by now :cool:

sumbadder
11-26-2007, 12:58 AM
Yeah it was noticeable that the Chinese women were very capable of beating WMC in the skills department but that she a) got most non-kill shots and b) pushed for longer rallies. Whenever the rallies got long, they would wind up hitting out or she'd end up with a good shot.

pjswift
11-26-2007, 12:59 AM
Thanks, badmania for your feedback. Yes, it's amazing how WMC can play sensationally in the space of one month difference compared to her DO and FO performance.Guess CHN WS never expected and so did not prepare for this.I'm delighted for her. Her game has transformed into a slower version of LCW.(Having the right bf is always useful!)And isn't she fearless; she just gets down to business.
Courtside reports are always great.Appreciate your opinion on this : Which is the best MS match you've seen in CO?

indra
11-26-2007, 01:01 AM
Look at how Wong Mew Choo has rapidly risen to the top 8 in 2 years and having beaten most of those players ranked above her :eek:

She lost in the SEA Games Final to Adriyanti Firdasari, and now such a gap between the two players by now :cool:

What's wrong with the Ina WS department?

SOmething wrong with the players? Coaches? Method of practices? or what?

KlasseE
11-26-2007, 01:04 AM
Can Ina borrow the Malaysian women single coach?:D
WMC's favorite WS player - SUSANTI
in CO, WMC played like SUSANTI and SIMON, in defense

badMania
11-26-2007, 01:05 AM
Her game has transformed into a slower version of LCW.(Having the right bf is always useful!)And isn't she fearless; she just gets down to business.
Courtside reports are always great.Appreciate your opinion on this : Which is the best MS match you've seen in CO?

Indeed.....she was very patient in her matches against Zhang Ning and Xie Xingfang (except perhaps for that loss of concentration early in the second set when Xie suddenly had the momentum). Fearless is a good word to describe her, and because of that she simply scared the hell out of the Chinese players by the end!

I only watched 3 MS matches: Chen Jin vs Lee Chong Wei, Bao Chunlai vs Park Sung Hwan and the Final match between Lee Chong Wei and Bao Chunlai. The best match would be the first one. You can see that LCW had control over Chen Jin in the second and third sets, despite losing the first set 20-22. Like Wong, LCW is also fearless. He's not afraid of Chen Jin's attacks, in fact, you can see that he was welcoming him to attack and basically had answers to those attacks which left Chen Jin frustrated :cool:

badMania
11-26-2007, 01:20 AM
More quotes from sina.com.cn:

"谢杏芳在赛后回忆道,不过,她因为体力严重下降而未能成功贯彻林丹的战术。在决胜局以16比14领先后,她 竟然被对手连扳6分,虽然在16比20的时候追回一分,但一个回球失误导致她最终还是以17比21遗憾告负 。"

After the match, Xie Xing Fang summarized that her loss was due to her rapidly deteriorating fitness by the end of the match! She was leading 16-14 before letting her opponent come back with 6 consecutive points. Although she was able to win another point back to make 17-20, at the end, a return error caused her to lose the match 17-21.

“我的体力出现了很大的问题,网前失误太多了,到后来落后的时候过于焦急。”

Besides the fitness problem, she also mentioned that she made too many netting errors and became too impatient when she was trailing late in the game.

pjswift
11-26-2007, 01:31 AM
Indeed.....she was very patient in her matches against Zhang Ning and Xie Xingfang (except perhaps for that loss of concentration early in the second set when Xie suddenly had the momentum). Fearless is a good word to describe her, and because of that she simply scared the hell out of the Chinese players by the end!

I only watched 3 MS matches: Chen Jin vs Lee Chong Wei, Bao Chunlai vs Park Sung Hwan and the Final match between Lee Chong Wei and Bao Chunlai. The best match would be the first one. You can see that LCW had control over Chen Jin in the second and third sets, despite losing the first set 20-22. Like Wong, LCW is also fearless. He's not afraid of Chen Jin's attacks, in fact, you can see that he was welcoming him to attack and basically had answers to those attacks which left Chen Jin frustrated :cool:
Thanks so much.I couldn't understand why LCW took the defensive line against CJ. I was hoping you had watched the LCW/Sony match because kwun said it was so captivating he abandoned his camera.CCTV only showed half of G1 and I don't think anyone has it on video for uploading.

cooler
11-26-2007, 01:38 AM
What's wrong with the Ina WS department?

SOmething wrong with the players? Coaches? Method of practices? or what?
hire suzi susanti as WS technical coach and advisor.
INA got a motherlode of talent but pbsi is too stubborn to hire her.

pjswift
11-26-2007, 01:39 AM
XXF may not realise that it was her lack of fitness that led her to many errors and impatience.Once fatigue sets in,errors just pile up.How come players still don't understand this simple equation? A superfit and well-skilled player knows he can win by outlasting his opponent.

badMania
11-26-2007, 01:40 AM
hire suzi susanti as WS technical coach and advisor.

Susi Susanti is currently helping PBSI in preparation for the Uber Cup 2008,

indra
11-26-2007, 01:44 AM
Susi Susanti is currently helping PBSI in preparation for the Uber Cup 2008,

I guess PBSI should hire Susi and her coach...anyway who was Susi's coach?

cooler
11-26-2007, 01:54 AM
More quotes from sina.com.cn:

"谢杏芳在赛后回忆道,不过,她因为体力严重下降而未能成功贯彻林丹的战术。在决胜局以16比14领先后,她 竟然被对手连扳6分,虽然在16比20的时候追回一分,但一个回球失误导致她最终还是以17比21遗憾告负 。"

After the match, Xie Xing Fang summarized that her loss was due to her rapidly deteriorating fitness by the end of the match! She was leading 16-14 before letting her opponent come back with 6 consecutive points. Although she was able to win another point back to make 17-20, at the end, a return error caused her to lose the match 17-21.

“我的体力出现了很大的问题,网前失误太多了,到后来落后的时候过于焦急。”

Besides the fitness problem, she also mentioned that she made too many netting errors and became too impatient when she was trailing late in the game.
she got the jittered becasue she's not use to running out of answer to a non chinese player. It is obvious xxf ran out of steam. She showed everyone in the 2nd set that she can own wmc but didnt have enough steam left to finish off wmc. I think xxf was planning 3 set match to wear out wmc. Both lyb and xxf did not anticipated a very fit wmc. XXf continued her attacka and pace into 3rd set and leading. However, the gas tank ran dry and the attack lost its potency and the energy draining attack actually start to work against xxf. U can see lyb waving or yelling to xxf to continue to attack (smashing)but it backfired, attack without power or pace is wasted energy. Lyb has to go back to the drawing board. WMC is no longer a pushover.

what wmc achieved this week is of historical proportion. She beaten all the chinese guard dogs (#1, #2, #4 seed) and ex-chinese pi hong to capture the title. Maybe a little bit complacency on the chinese part, thinking no worry, one of the guard dog would bring wmc down.

zqloy
11-26-2007, 02:02 AM
All the Indonesian fans were cheering so loudly for her that we annoyed the Chinese fans sitting next to us, which included 2 young Chinese doubles players (one of them was Tian Qing) sitting just behind me yesterday!

At the end of the MD match, one of the Chinese fans even asked me...."why were u cheering for the Malaysians and Indonesians?" :D

Hahaha that was funny! Did they give all the weird faces? :D

zqloy
11-26-2007, 02:09 AM
she got the jittered becasue she's not use to running out of answer to a non chinese player. It is obvious xxf ran out of steam. She showed everyone in the 2nd set that she can own wmc but didnt have enough steam left to finish off wmc. I think xxf was planning 3 set match to wear out wmc. Both lyb and xxf did not anticipated a very fit wmc. XXf continued her attacka and pace into 3rd set and leading. However, the gas tank ran dry and the attack lost its potency and the energy draining attack actually start to work against xxf. U can see lyb waving or yelling to xxf to continue to attack (smashing)but it backfired, attack without power or pace is wasted energy. Lyb has to go back to the drawing board. WMC is no longer a pushover.

Basically none of the current chinese ws has good fitness, except ZN maybe given her age she is excellent already. They rely more on skills, and were excellent on that area. They need not rely too much on fitness and can hv shorter rallies with their skills.
But WMC played like a LCW in CO, return all the impossible shots they throw to her. In short, fitness is the key to break the china wall in WS. :cool:

badMania
11-26-2007, 02:11 AM
Hahaha that was funny! Did they give all the weird faces? :D

Haha...one little girl gave me that look :p

cooler
11-26-2007, 02:16 AM
Basically none of the current chinese ws has good fitness, except ZN maybe given her age she is excellent already. They rely more on skills, and were excellent on that area. They need not rely too much on fitness and can hv shorter rallies with their skills.
But WMC played like a LCW in CO, return all the impossible shots they throw to her. In short, fitness is the key to break the china wall in WS. :cool:
however, lyb is NOT all that dumb either. There is a reason for him to have the chinese MS and WS not at peak form now but rather at a certain minimum level. However, that minimum level have been breached (by wmc and chen hong) and lyb has to rethink his plan and strategy.

pjswift
11-26-2007, 02:27 AM
however, lyb is NOT all that dumb either. There is a reason for him to have the chinese MS and WS not at peak form now but rather at a certain minimum level. However, that minimum level have been breached (by wmc and chen hong) and lyb has to rethink his plan and strategy.
So LD is supposed to go offpeak now and BCL peak? If so, why did LD lament his loss? Acting?

X Ball
11-26-2007, 02:32 AM
however, lyb is NOT all that dumb either. There is a reason for him to have the chinese MS and WS not at peak form now but rather at a certain minimum level. However, that minimum level have been breached (by wmc and chen hong) and lyb has to rethink his plan and strategy.


Cooler, you are guessing. If anything I think LD is at almost his peak. PSH gave LD hell and we should not take it away from PSH for his effort. BAO is at his peak too.

Again it is an insult if you think WMC won because the China WS are not at peak because it was LYB's strategy.

cooler
11-26-2007, 02:38 AM
So LD is supposed to go offpeak now and BCL peak? If so, why did LD lament his loss? Acting?

*sigh*
ask the same question if ur in his shoes...:rolleyes:
- ur #1 and beaten by a #14
- ur beaten at home soil
- u got eliminated on first round.
- ur beaten by a non-chinese player

is that enough good reasons then to say he's 'acting'?:rolleyes:

well-son
11-26-2007, 02:52 AM
*sigh*
ask the same question if ur in his shoes...:rolleyes:
- ur #1 and beaten by a #14
- ur beaten at home soil
- u got eliminated on first round.
- ur beaten by a non-chinese player

is that enough good reasons then to say he's 'acting'?:rolleyes:

And if you were right, what is the purpose for him to do so :confused:?

SImplelenna
11-26-2007, 02:54 AM
I guess PBSI should hire Susi and her coach...anyway who was Susi's coach?
As i remembered Susi's Coach is Liang Chiu Shia ( Sister's of Former MD INA; Tjun-Tjun )

alfa-2
11-26-2007, 02:55 AM
Yes, like what I've written in my earlier posting - Tat Meng must be proud of having a protege who has achieved something that he had never made it when he was a MS player.

as a player, i remember WTM was noone like KBH now when he was a player, never did win any major title........but it doesn't matter, he helped WMC to get a good one.

Inky2000
11-26-2007, 02:59 AM
as a player, i remember WTM was noone like KBH now when he was a player, never did win any major title........but it doesn't matter, he helped WMC to get a good one.

Well, may be KBH should quit the game and nurture the next WMC. :D

jimbo
11-26-2007, 03:09 AM
And if you were right, what is the purpose for him to do so :confused:?

Hmm... let me sum up (my own metholody ONLY): (pls, no controversy)

" For LD, as far as CHN camp is concerned, he is untouchable. He is confident to beat all his teammates if no marching order by the scumbag. Remember, the destination of the journey is NOT about SS, but the ultimate GOLD IN OLYMPICS 2008!!!. LinDan can afford to lose now, or, will pretend to lose, and hoping his teammates (BCL and CJ) will win few tourneys (by beating LCW, Taufik, Gade, etc...) to boost their confidence for a chance in OG08.

Remember, if LCW or Taufik or Gade or etc, wanna win the gold medal, they have to beat BCL and CJ along the path to Final (providing if those players are not in the same quarter as LinDan). So, LinDan is so smart to build his own fortresses around him that makes him quite invulnerable for his opponents, namely the top FOURs.

If during the OG08, BCL or CJ kills all opponents and meet LinDan in the final, 99.9% LinDan will win. He knows that, no doubt... Of coz, LinDan has to path to final :p
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Inky2000
11-26-2007, 03:28 AM
Hmm... let me sum up (my own metholody ONLY): (pls, no controversy)

" For LD, as far as CHN camp is concerned, he is untouchable. He is confident to beat all his teammates if no marching order by the scumbag. Remember, the destination of the journey is NOT about SS, but the ultimate GOLD IN OLYMPICS 2008!!!. LinDan can afford to lose now, or, will pretend to lose, and hoping his teammates (BCL and CJ) will win few tourneys (by beating LCW, Taufik, Gade, etc...) to boost their confidence for a chance in OG08.

Remember, if LCW or Taufik or Gade or etc, wanna win the gold medal, they have to beat BCL and CJ along the path to Final (providing if those players are not in the same quarter as LinDan). So, LinDan is so smart to build his own fortresses around him that makes him quite invulnerable for his opponents, namely the top FOURs.
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If your theory is true, he doesn't have to "opt" to get eliminated by PSH at Rnd1 (or Hafiz at Rnd2). Beaten by KJ is a good choice. Better still, advance to sf and get beaten by BCL to boost the latter's confidence even more. Furthermore, it's better that BCL's sf opponent is LD than PSH because LD could act (i.e., LD plays the role of clearing BCL's path) while foreigner PSH will go all the way out to fight BCL ... and just in case PSH performed beyond expectation and beat BCL or stress to 3 games to wear BCL out.

Moreover, if LD did act, he might have gone too far during the after-match media interview as he slammed the line judges for not making him feel like he was playing on his home soil (i.e., he expected the line judges will make "mistakes" in the line calls to benefit him but there was at least one controversial line call which was against him instead).

jimbo
11-26-2007, 03:46 AM
If your theory is true, he doesn't have to "opt" to get eliminated by PSH at Rnd1 (or Hafiz at Rnd2). Beaten by KJ is a good choice. Better still, advance to sf and get beaten by BCL to boost the latter's confidence even more. Furthermore, it's better that BCL's sf opponent is LD than PSH because LD could act (i.e., LD plays the role of clearing BCL's path) while foreigner PSH will go all the way out to fight BCL ... and just in case PSH performed beyond expectation and beat BCL or stress to 3 games to wear BCL out.

I believe he didnt "opt" to lose to Park. If he won, he would meet BCL in SF and again, I believe he would "opt" to lose (Just like he did in France SS) :rolleyes: Of coz, this "scenario", according to LD's playbook, would NOT happen in OG08.

Moreover, if LD did act, he might have gone too far during the after-match media interview as he slammed the line judges for not making him feel like he was playing on his home soil (i.e., he expected the line judges will make "mistakes" in the line calls to benefit him but there was at least one controversial line call which was against him instead).

I didnt watch the post-interview. Could it be politically correct to use such words? As I said earlier, he didnt "plan" to lose this match and I believe he expected the lineman to be siding him, which apparently not the case.

Again, just my personal silly thoughts. No controversy or hatred, pls :p

huangkwokhau
11-26-2007, 03:48 AM
hire suzi susanti as WS technical coach and advisor.
INA got a motherlode of talent but pbsi is too stubborn to hire her.
I thought you knew that already.........:D:D Susi did not want to get involved.....not PBSI did not want to...:cool: only Uber cup she finally said yes!!;)

Krisna
11-26-2007, 03:53 AM
I guess PBSI should hire Susi and her coach...anyway who was Susi's coach?

As i remembered Susi's Coach is Liang Chiu Shia ( Sister's of Former MD INA; Tjun-Tjun )

Correct! And Mbak Retno coached Susi before Liang Chiu Shia. Mbak Retno also coached Mia, Firda, Nana, and Pia... But the result varies... according to their talent laaah... :p

Liang Chiu Shia is coaching Melicia Kurniawan now... No success there... Coaching is a key element, but the natural talent, natural durability [not prone to injuries when training very hard], determination, and habits of the individual players matter even more... ;)

Krisna
11-26-2007, 03:56 AM
hire suzi susanti as WS technical coach and advisor.
INA got a motherlode of talent but pbsi is too stubborn to hire her.

I thought you knew that already.........:D:D Susi did not want to get involved.....not PBSI did not want to...:cool: only Uber cup she finally said yes!!;)

You are correct, Hau-ge. Susi is too busy taking care of her three small children and her company, Astec.

And apparently, cooler does not know these facts like we do... INA's badminton world is a bit distant for him.

shanisen3200
11-26-2007, 04:05 AM
Mental/Physical
LCW - mentally bad but physically good. He has grown up since criticized over YKH after WC. A good example of sportmanship for others....
WMC - excellent/superb
CJ - excellent/superb
BCL - excellent/excellent
ZN - bad/good
XXF - bad/good
Park - bad/worse
Thai XD - excellent/superb
INA MD - excellent/excellent

just my 2 cents.....

only the Thai XD may be include MS lack 's consistant:D

badMania
11-26-2007, 04:30 AM
Liang Chiu Shia is coaching Melicia Kurniawan now... No success there... Coaching is a key element, but the natural talent, natural durability [not prone to injuries when training very hard], determination, and habits of the individual players matter even more... ;)

I was about to write this. Yup...I bumped into both during the Singapore Satellite 2006. I wonder what will the result be if Liang returns back to Pelatnas to coach Pia, Maria and Firda :rolleyes:

eaglehelang
11-26-2007, 04:39 AM
At the end of the MD match, one of the Chinese fans even asked me...."why were u cheering for the Malaysians and Indonesians?" :D

That's a weird question that they asked you. Badmania - you're Indonesian right? So rightly, you cheer for your countrymen. Then Malaysia is your neighbour, next in line would be Malaysia if Indonesia arent playing.

badMania
11-26-2007, 04:40 AM
That's a weird question that they asked you. Badmania - you're Indonesian right? So rightly, you cheer for your countrymen. Then Malaysia is your neighbour, next in line would be Malaysia if Indonesia arent playing.

Well, we are of Chinese descent :D
So, they were quite surprised when we supported any non-Chinese players :cool:

One little girl even asked her mum: "is that guy Indian (she is too young to differentiate between India and Indonesia)?"

eaglehelang
11-26-2007, 04:54 AM
Well, we are of Chinese descent :D
So, they were quite surprised when we supported any non-Chinese players :cool:

One little girl even asked her mum: "is that guy Indian (she is too young to differentiate between India and Indonesia)?"

LOL, then where did they think the players came from ? Imported from China? Only 2 of Msian MD are non-Chinese. Our MS = LCW, WCH, YeohKB are Chinese. Our 2 junior XD pairs are Chinese. The women too - WMC, WPT/CEH, Julia Wong.

I'm Malaysian Chinese, so if I ever save enuf money to go to China, I should bring a Msia flag and wave it every time our players go on court, shouting Msian BOLEH every 10 seconds.

Louisa
11-26-2007, 05:29 AM
LOL, then where did they think the players came from ? Imported from China? Only 2 of Msian MD are non-Chinese. Our MS = LCW, WCH, YeohKB are Chinese. Our 2 junior XD pairs are Chinese. The women too - WMC, WPT/CEH, Julia Wong.

I'm Malaysian Chinese, so if I ever save enuf money to go to China, I should bring a Msia flag and wave it every time our players go on court, shouting Msian BOLEH every 10 seconds.
Count me in...:D

s1nn3r
11-26-2007, 05:35 AM
Count me in...:D
Pay for my trip I will wave till I drop :)

sepang
11-26-2007, 05:55 AM
Thanks so much.I couldn't understand why LCW took the defensive line against CJ. I was hoping you had watched the LCW/Sony match because kwun said it was so captivating he abandoned his camera.CCTV only showed half of G1 and I don't think anyone has it on video for uploading.

I did watch the game next day on GDTV rebroadcast the match; however, I did not record it..sorry.

I think LCW has been using slow-pace tempo for his game since the injure in Europe tournament. It has been effective to capture opponent's strategy and effective on defensive end. When you play fast and furious, you weaker your defensive end. LCW changes the tempo when it comes close to the end of the game to finish it up.

Same tactic was used on BCL game but the trailing too much after several bad calls. He did try to use fast and furious tempo, at the same time his defensive end was weaker and BCL played very well and took advantage of it

robin7
11-26-2007, 07:26 AM
First of all, congratulations to all the winners and runners-up of China Open 2007.

Since Japan Open 2007 till China Open 2007, Malaysia has won at least a title in each Super Series tournament. Hopefully, we can continue the good run of titles in the upcoming Hong Kong Open.:)

Japan Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS) :):):)
Denmark Open 2007 - Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MD) :):):)
French Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS) :):):)
China Open 2007 - Wong Mew Choo (WS) :eek::eek::eek::eek:

badMania
11-26-2007, 07:29 AM
First of all, congratulations to all the winners and runners-up of China Open 2007.

Since Japan Open 2007 till China Open 2007, Malaysia has won at least a title in each Super Series tournament. Hopefully, we can continue the good run of titles in the upcoming Hong Kong Open.:)

Japan Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS)
Denmark Open 2007 - Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MD)
French Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS)
China Open 2007 - Wong Mew Choo (WS)

Likewise, Team INA started to do well after the Singapore Open Super Series 2007.

Singapore Open 2007 -- Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa (XD)
Indonesia Open 2007 -- NIL
China Masters 2007 -- Vita Marissa/Lilyana Natsir (XD)
Japan Open 2007 -- Tony Gunawan/Candra Wijaya (MD)
Denmark Open 2007 -- NIL
French Open 2007 -- Flandy Limpele/Vita Marissa (XD)
China Open 2007 -- Nova Widianto/Lilyana Natsir (XD) and Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan (MD)

May this trend continue for the last leg of the SS this year in Hong Kong! A title will be more than enough :D

robin7
11-26-2007, 07:39 AM
Thanks, badmania for your feedback. Yes, it's amazing how WMC can play sensationally in the space of one month difference compared to her DO and FO performance.Guess CHN WS never expected and so did not prepare for this.I'm delighted for her. Her game has transformed into a slower version of LCW.(Having the right bf is always useful!)And isn't she fearless; she just gets down to business.
Courtside reports are always great.Appreciate your opinion on this : Which is the best MS match you've seen in CO?
XXF needs to change hers. :p

robin7
11-26-2007, 07:46 AM
Since Japan Open 2007 till China Open 2007, Malaysia has won at least a title in each Super Series tournament. Hopefully, we can continue the good run of titles in the upcoming Hong Kong Open.:)

Malaysia Open 2007 - Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MD)
All England 2007 - Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MD)
Swiss Open 2007 - Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MD)
Korea Open 2007 - NIL
Singapore Open 2007 - NIL
Indonesia Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS)
China Masters 2007 - NIL

Japan Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS)
Denmark Open 2007 - Koo Kien Keat/Tan Boon Heong (MD)
French Open 2007 - Lee Chong Wei (MS)
China Open 2007 - Wong Mew Choo (WS)

Jessica
11-26-2007, 07:49 AM
Wow...Its really feeling great when see the Women Single winner...Its a big achievement for Malaysia badminton team.Hopefully we will be able to challenge the Sudirman Cup slowly.

Krisna
11-26-2007, 07:55 AM
Wow...Its really feeling great when see the Women Single winner...Its a big achievement for Malaysia badminton team.Hopefully we will be able to challenge the Sudirman Cup slowly.

With LCW on MS, WMC on WS, and KKK-TBH on MD, MAS got a triple punch already... ;)

pjswift
11-26-2007, 07:57 AM
XXF needs to change hers. :p
Any suggestion for her?

ctjcad
11-26-2007, 05:58 PM
It is amazing how very fit LCW and WMC are - they should put everyone under the same physical coach.
A superfit and well-skilled player knows he can win by outlasting his opponent.
..of the thread's title, and as i mentioned in another post before, after all the other factors have been put together (ie. skill, court-smart/mental preparation), professional fitness/stamina is still the key for any player to win in any tourney(s), not just in this particular tourney; and esp. in Singles play..:cool:

Tommy Susanto
11-27-2007, 03:32 AM
Congrats to WMC and team Mas. Beating our beautiful gals in ZL, ZN, and XXF:eek: in their backyards:eek::eek:However, one cannot say the same to Li Li:crying: of Singapore and Xing Ai Yin:crying::crying: Well, the latter is still a WIP and yes she is born in China:crying::crying::crying:

Tommy Susanto
11-27-2007, 03:40 AM
Congrats to WMC and team Mas. Beating our beautiful gals in ZL, ZN, and XXF:eek: in their backyards:eek::eek:However, one cannot say the same to Li Li:crying: of Singapore and Xing Ai Yin:crying::crying: Well, the latter is still a WIP and yes she is born in China:crying::crying::crying:

Damn wrong thread:p