It has been delighting to see we have 2 1/2 pairs of Indonesia MD in semifinal!! :D

Me Too very happy.......


hope that...INA MD all final again......

Very impressive indeed.

What's the secret behind Indonesia's MD ?

Very impressive indeed.

What's the secret behind Indonesia's MD ?

Having fans that are always supportive and don't question them everytime they lose. :D

Seriously, anything could happen in one tournament and they just played good this time. And NO, it is not the awakening of INA' MDs until the young pairs can replace the already known pairs.

Maybe they had some strong coffee this morning. Thus they are "awaken". :cool:


Having fans that are always supportive and don't question them everytime they lose. :D

Seriously, anything could happen in one tournament and they just played good this time. And NO, it is not the awakening of INA' MDs until the young pairs can replace the already known pairs.

I think Kindra will win it tomorrow, 60-40 in their favour.

I think Kindra will win it tomorrow, 60-40 in their favour.

I hope so...:cool:
Big problem for KiNdra is...when getting misjudge of umpire, it easily to make them not focus to play and loss spirit...:crying::crying::crying:

I think Kindra will win it tomorrow, 60-40 in their favour.

They better, I am still sore with the service judge during the China Masters final in July. :mad: Just when the Indonesian pair was controlling the game too .........

I like this, the World No 1 tag is being played around like musical chairs. Cai/Fu have had their turn, Koo/Tan held it briefly until their loss to the 2000 Olympic Champs, time for World Champs to hold World No 1. Let's see how long they can hold on to it ......

I like this, the World No 1 tag is being played around like musical chairs. Cai/Fu have had their turn, Koo/Tan held it briefly until their loss to the 2000 Olympic Champs, time for World Champs to hold World No 1. Let's see how long they can hold on to it ......

Don't forget MK/HS held it for a week or two after they won WC..

Don't forget MK/HS held it for a week or two after they won WC..

That's why MD world no 1 ranking is a musical chairs game ......:D

Awakening? :p

Don't forget that those who wake up also go to sleep later :D

Well, Markis Kido/Hendra Setiawan are pretty much ready and they ARE INA's no 1 pair right now :cool: It will be a good matchup tomorrow.

Judging from their past performance,like in CO,which appears to me that CY/FHF was not playing so good,caused by injuries that occurs to CY..i believe Chandra/Tony r possible to win them..not going to be easy though.However,u guys got our support!!!Jia you!!

Judging from their past performance,like in CO,which appears to me that CY/FHF was not playing so good,caused by injuries that occurs to CY..i believe Chandra/Tony r possible to win them..not going to be easy though.However,u guys got our support!!!Jia you!!

Tony/Candra have to get past Luluk/Alvent first :cool: I have posted my thought in the other thread and I have also PAWed for Luluk/Alvent, so, its obvious which pair I think will win tomorrow. Luluk/Alvent played an almost perfect game today, while Tony/Candra will definitely be feeling the after-effect of their exhausting match tomorrow.

I just want LuVent win the game....to make up for lose in Japan Open couple months ago.....

So Go...LuVent

Yeah!! "All" Indonesians for MD.

Tony/Candra have to get past Luluk/Alvent first :cool: I have posted my thought in the other thread and I have also PAWed for Luluk/Alvent, so, its obvious which pair I think will win tomorrow. Luluk/Alvent played an almost perfect game today, while Tony/Candra will definitely be feeling the after-effect of their exhausting match tomorrow.

Yeah..u lost.My prediction was right.Tony/Chandra wins against them.Then..tommorow will be the match that we're all have been waiting for so long...:):):)..Another indo/indo MD!!!

After watching INA vs CHN (Fu-Chai) in semi final, I was suprised how good the INA pair is. They defended very well, can "lompat tinggi tinggi and hentam kuat kuat" esp the shorter INA guy. He reminds me of YapKimHock, and both are very very good attacking players.

So, what's the "secret recipe"? :p If they can play at such high level at OG08, I'm sure LYB would lose his sleeps :rolleyes:

Well done, INA pairs... syabas :)

Obviusly, INA can only rely on Mk/HS for the challenge of OG GOld. LulukAlvent? sorry to say they were abit Yoyo..
Joko/HAG : Too far left behind. Any top pair can beat them easily.
MAS at least got two pair which is better in term of consistency, despite several embrassing loss by Koo/Tan
China : Fu/Chai still the pair to beat . One of the top 3. Guo/Xie is slowly cathing up too.

Yeah!! "All" Indonesians for MD.
Is Tony Gunawan Indonesian any longer? :confused:
I thought he sold himself to the US sometime ago. :cool:

Obviusly, INA can only rely on Mk/HS for the challenge of OG GOld. LulukAlvent? sorry to say they were abit Yoyo..
Joko/HAG : Too far left behind. Any top pair can beat them easily.
MAS at least got two pair which is better in term of consistency, despite several embrassing loss by Koo/Tan
China : Fu/Chai still the pair to beat . One of the top 3. Guo/Xie is slowly cathing up too.

Obviously, Kido/Hendra have a good record in China, proven in the past two years. As for Luluk/Alvent or AG/Joko, its a toss between the two :cool: I think AG/Joko will get the nod.

Is Tony Gunawan Indonesian any longer? :confused:
I thought he sold himself to the US sometime ago. :cool:


Not sold him self...he is studying there...while study can play as well mah..:p

It's like...on passport he is american...but in everybody heart he is indonesian...just like michele yeoh who sell herself to hongkong:rolleyes:

Is Tony Gunawan Indonesian any longer? :confused:
I thought he sold himself to the US sometime ago. :cool:

tony stil holds ina pasport.. :D

...on passport he is american...

tony stil holds ina pasport.. :D

Who's right? :confused:

Who's right? :confused:

i am... :D.. ;)

Tony Gunawan IS STILL AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN :cool:

But I believe he holds a US green card. Hau-Ge will know better about this matter.

Congrats to the Indonesian! I am happy if either team wins tomorrow.

After watching INA vs CHN (Fu-Chai) in semi final, I was suprised how good the INA pair is. They defended very well, can "lompat tinggi tinggi and hentam kuat kuat" esp the shorter INA guy. He reminds me of YapKimHock, and both are very very good attacking players.

So, what's the "secret recipe"? :p If they can play at such high level at OG08, I'm sure LYB would lose his sleeps :rolleyes:

Well done, INA pairs... syabas :)

Can you share the video??

Can you share the video??

Pls go to the "video sharing" threads. plenty of videos uploaded for sharing. Sorry, I dont know how to upload those files. :p

Who's right? :confused:
Tony is still Indonesian..he is not american yet..........Taufik-ist is right

Tony is still Indonesian..he is not american yet..........Taufik-ist is right

If a citizen of a country is defined as a person who holds a passport of the country, then Tony is an American. But since States allows one person to hold more than one passport at a time, Tony can still keep his Indonesia passport. So he is an Indonesian too. :D

If a citizen of a country is defined as a person who holds a passport of the country, then Tony is an American. But since States allows one person to hold more than one passport at a time, Tony can still keep his Indonesia passport. So he is an Indonesian too. :D
Not necessary......Tony is still holding INA passport......not US citizen yet...

Can you share the video??

u can watch the great playing of Kido/Hendra when they against Cai/Fu on this video....:cool:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ijE18PBSWg0

Is Tony Gunawan Indonesian any longer? :confused:
I thought he sold himself to the US sometime ago. :cool:

Talking about business,
Indonesia export players.Demand r high in the world.Singapore is also one of the countries that import their players...:cool:.How many indonesian does singapore have in their national team??:confused::confused::rolleyes::cool:

Talking about business,
Indonesia export players.Demand r high in the world.Singapore is also one of the countries that import their players...:cool:.How many indonesian does singapore have in their national team??:confused::confused::rolleyes::cool:
Yes, but Singapore has got only the discards :D
In fact, the imports from China are doing better than the imports from Indonesia :)

Yes, but Singapore has got only the discards :D
In fact, the imports from China are doing better than the imports from Indonesia :)

Well..yeah,i know..all lower end yea?:DHigher ends r going all to the far west.US,Netherlands,UK..no singapore.

However,one of the export has gone really well..esp in UK n Malay.U know who i meant rite?

N the other one has helped US to gain their first WD champion title.Hmm..i wonder is there any other exported else than from indo,who can do all those miracles out there? Not from china as i remember..esp not from singapore.LOL..

SIngapore knows really well about importing players yea?
How about making or exporting players?When will the time be:rolleyes::confused:?Hmm..i wonder..;)

Oh yea,FYI..u know coach Tang XianHu rite?China's head coach for the junior team..n the assistant coach for the national team.He was an indonesian as well.Chinese ppl admits that their badminton expands alot,thanks to this guy.He has brought alot of thing,techniques,etc for the china's badminton.

Now,i wonder,is there anyone,an imported,else from indo,who can do all these things..in the history of badminton?

Oh yea,FYI..u know coach Tang XianHu rite?China's head coach for the junior team..n the assistant coach for the national team.He was an indonesian as well.Chinese ppl admits that their badminton expands alot,thanks to this guy.He has brought alot of thing,techniques,etc for the china's badminton.

Now,i wonder,is there anyone,an imported,else from indo,who can do all these things..in the history of badminton?
one of Thai coach is Indonesian..Mr. Atik Jauhari if I'm not mistaken, Singapore's head coach is Eng Hian, INdonesian as well, many HKG players route are indonesian, and one of the best WS contender in Zhang Ning and Wang Chen era, Mia Audina (netherland's player) was Indonesian as well..former Malaysian MS coach was Indra GUnawan (Also INdonesian)..:)..we have a very long tradition of badminton..as well as China, Malaysia,England, and Denmark..:cool:

Yup, and another legendary coach Fang Kaixiang (also originally Indonesian) sparked the revival of MAS badminton. From then (late 80s) onwards, MAS players fitness were on par with INA, CHN, KOR. Previously this was what let us down in major tournaments.

u know coach Tang XianHu rite?
Well, do I? :rolleyes:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47582&page=3

Well, do I? :rolleyes:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47582&page=3

Well..good then..:cool:,then u knew that he was an indonesian as well.Not a singaporean.:D

Well, do I? :rolleyes:
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=47582&page=3

Well..good then..:cool:,then u knew that he was an indonesian as well.Not a singaporean.:D

To me, it matters not at all what nationality someone is.
What's important is that he or she play badminton... and play it fairly. :)

one of Thai coach is Indonesian..Mr. Atik Jauhari if I'm not mistaken, Singapore's head coach is Eng Hian, INdonesian as well, many HKG players route are indonesian, and one of the best WS contender in Zhang Ning and Wang Chen era, Mia Audina (netherland's player) was Indonesian as well..former Malaysian MS coach was Indra GUnawan (Also INdonesian)..:)..we have a very long tradition of badminton..as well as China, Malaysia,England, and Denmark..:cool:
Asep is Singapore's head coach and Eng Hian is one of Singapore double coach....

Is Tony Gunawan Indonesian any longer? :confused:
I thought he sold himself to the US sometime ago. :cool:
tony stil holds ina pasport.. :D
Tony Gunawan IS STILL AN INDONESIAN CITIZEN :cool:

But I believe he holds a US green card. Hau-Ge will know better about this matter.
Tony is still Indonesian..he is not american yet..........Taufik-ist is right
..i would tend to concur with taufik-ist and Hau-ge..:cool:
If a citizen of a country is defined as a person who holds a passport of the country, then Tony is an American. But since States allows one person to hold more than one passport at a time, Tony can still keep his Indonesia passport. So he is an Indonesian too. :D
..actually here's a bit of the explanation:
U.S. allows for dual citizenships. HOWEVER, Indonesia (amongst a few other countries, incl. i believe China) does not allow dual citizenships (of any nationalities). Thus if a person already has a U.S. Citizenship/Passport, and wants to keep his/her INA passport/citizenship, the Indonesian govt. WILL NOT allow that person to extend his/her Indonesian passport, when he/she wants to extend her INA passport/citizenship. So, one has to choose to either drop one citizenship or not. Of course, that person can alway lie (not tell the truth on the extension application form)..:o:p
*You can read a bit more here (post #34):
http://www.badmintoncentral.com/forums/showthread.php?t=46105&highlight=citizenship&page=2
http://www.sgwiki.com/wiki/Dual_citizenship

He should drop Indonesian passport. It doesnt worth anything.

He should drop Indonesian passport. It doesnt worth anything.

Then it would be problem if he wanna visit INA for a longer period!:D

He should drop Indonesian passport. It doesnt worth anything.

it worths something.. tony will get back to indonesia for running his family bussiness

He should drop Indonesian passport. It doesnt worth anything.
How much does an indonesian passport get in the black market? Msia one is about RM10k I heard ?

He can get visitor visa on landing and extend it every 30 days.

He would have stayed and run his family business, but he didnt.

He can get visitor visa on landing and extend it every 30 days.

He would have stayed and run his family business, but he didnt.
He want a bite of the big apple! Running his family business is so boring